LNC Has an Animated Discussion

Ariel and Jonathan talk about how a movie they thought was lost to time will actually get its day in movie theaters, which animated character they would most like to hang out with, and wonder if the body horror Clayface film will work as part of the DC cinematic universe.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Ner Drunk Collider the podcast.
It's all about the geeky things happening in the world
around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm aerial casted and with me as always after our
long break is so wonderful.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Jonathan Strickland, We're rusty and I'm dusty.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
There was a similar joke in and I'm Fussy. There
is a similar joke in the dropout show I saw
this weekend. No. I paused because I was going to
say welcome back, but I'm like, it's better for a
second half of a show if we just went to
like a commercial break or something.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
H Yeah, So we were gone for a couple of weeks,
so we're a little out of practice. We also, we
showed great restraint because we didn't include every single story
that broke since the last time we recorded. Otherwise this
episode would have to be approximately six hours long.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, And as much as we love chatting with each other,
which we did for a copious amount of time before
even starting our recording today, six hours is a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah. But you know, I came up with a question
of the week like twenty minutes before we started to
jump on the call, actually probably a half hour before
we jumped on the call, and then I probably did
not think of my own answer. So I'm going to
him and Hall and ask Ariel, hey, if you could
spend a day with any animated character, who would it

(01:35):
be and why?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Uh So, like this is not again. It was a
last minute question, so I haven't really thought it out.
I probably have an answered that's better than this one.
But this is my gut reaction in the moment answer,
which is Grog from Voxmak in the cartoon series. He's
a big, all of a sudden goliath barbarian, and I

(02:03):
like to think of myself in real life as a barbarian,
and so I just I feel like the antics would
be wonderful. Probably also get on my nerves, but I
think it would be more fun than not.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's a good answer. I guess it looks like you
were judging me. No, I'm not judging. I'm still thinking
and I'm having trouble because my brain don't work so good.
I'll tell you. I'll tell you what my first reaction was,
which was going to be more of a joke than
actually being sincere, which was Jessica Rabbit because she likes
guys who can make her laugh. And I'm like, hey,

(02:41):
I got that, But no, I think let's see you
know what, probably Danger Mouse. I was a big Danger
Mouse fan. It's a cartoon that a lot of people
may not know that much about it there if they
didn't watch a lot of UK television. But back in
the day nickelode And used to have the original run

(03:02):
Danger Mouse episodes air, and I became a big fan.
Danger Mouse kind of like a parody of British spies,
like you know, James Bond being the prime example, and
kind of a cool character, also very silly, And I
didn't watch There was a reboot series that went on

(03:23):
for a little bit, but I haven't seen any of that,
so I don't know if it measures up well to
the original Danger Mouse run. But yeah, and I mean
also I dressed as Danger Mouse once upon a time.
That was one of the costumes my mom made for
me back when I was a kid and we were
going to science fiction conventions.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
That is a really good answer. I mean, the truth is,
there are a lot of cartoon characters I'd probably want
to hang out with.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, line, there are a lot that I wouldn't want
to hang out with, you know, like Starscream from Transformers.
That guy seems like a drag.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
A little bit. Yeah. Yeah, but uh I didn't answer
fisto from he Man.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah. I decided. I decided this was gonna be our
question because, uh, when we go through our episode, the
very last story we have is it relates to a
an animated film that we didn't think we were ever
gonna get us get to see.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, but that's that's you probably all figured it out already,
but for those who haven't, we won't spoil it yet.
That's something to look forward to at the very end
of the episode.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, I will. I will save my thoughts because I
have many, and I am so sorry Jonathan. It looks
like my camera has frozen. Are you still hearing me?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Okay, I can hear you just fine, But yes, you
you have been the same frozen.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Picture for the last for the.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Last like three minutes.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Uh no, horror.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Okay, Well, let's talk about stuff that we've seen since
the last time we recorded. I'll go ahead and go first,
just because I know that you saw something pretty cool
and I want you to have plenty of time to
talk about it. I watched the entirety, that being ten
episodes of the first season of The Fall and Rise
of Reggie Dinkins. That's the sitcom. It's done in sort

(05:22):
of a Parks and Rex slash The Office kind of style,
where Daniel Radcliffe is playing a documentarian, a disgraced filmmaker
who takes on a job of doing a documentary film
of a disgraced former NFL player who was kicked out
of the NFL for betting on himself in games. And

(05:44):
he always argues like, I only bet on myself, I
never bet against myself. But he gets kicked out for
gambling on his own games. And the purpose of the
documentary is supposed to be an attempt to redeem Reggie
Dinkins in his name in the public space. And I

(06:09):
saw the first episode weeks ago and thought it was good.
But I finally sat down and watched the entirety of
the series, and I think it really I think more
people need to watch it. It is on Peacock. It
is worth watching. I think it's a better first season
than either The Office or Parks and Rec I think

(06:32):
it's more consistent, it's funnier, and I think it'll just
get better from here, and it's already pretty darn good.
Like I wouldn't call it great, but it has the
potential for greatness. Everyone who's on it does a fantastic job.
They're all exceedingly entertaining. Daniel Radcliffe is not afraid of

(06:56):
looking like a total dfist. It is. It is worth watching.
The only other thing I have on here is Ariel
and I independently both auditioned for Disney TV YEA as
voice actors. Yeah it was that was great, No go ahead. Oh,

(07:16):
I was just gonna say, like, yeah, they had a
whole list of different sides to choose from different characters.
You were to pick three and do a slate recording
and then one of each of the you know, the
three sides that you would pick, you do you know
three of those and a song if you choose, and
then submit it through this website and then hopefully here back.

(07:40):
I have not heard anything back. I have heard Ariel's auditions.
She chose one of the same characters I did, and
she did a better job. Gosh darn it.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I wouldn't say I did a better job. We just
had different takes on it, which is fantastic. The do
date was not that long ago, and since it was
an open call, it's probably gonna take them a while
to get through. So, especially since they asked for three
different basically scenes from everybody, it's going to take them
a while to get through all of the submissions. So
I suspect if we heard back, and the winners basically

(08:13):
get like a week long boot camp at Disney for
voiceover animation, and that's not till July, so I don't
think we would hear back. Would have heard back by.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Now, Yeah, and I'm not expecting to hear back. It
was more like I wanted to do the experience just
kind of to challenge myself and have some fun. And
the character sides they have, they had a really nice variety,
So just picking the three I wanted to do ended
up being a fun challenge all by itself.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, it was hard because you want to pick ones
that are different enough from each other, but also ones
that just really speak to you because part of the
audition this is actually important and a lot of voiceover,
especially for animation or video games, is they want you
to be able to improv. Yeah, as a character.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
In fact required that as part of the audition. They
had a Billward says, here's the scenario, improvise a line
that fits the scenario. So that was kind of fun, and.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
They want to make sure you've got a good idea
of the character and not just oh I picked a
fun voice.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah. One of the characters was almost exactly like my
Renaissance Festival character I played for years and years and years,
So that one was a breeze, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
The character that we both did, I think was really
good because it is something outside of the way I
normally sound, So it was a really good deviation. But
the other two I think might have been a little
too similar.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
They weren't think. I think you sounded different enough in
each of them where it was distinct. I had a
similar fear, like I was like the voice I did
for this character and the voice I did for that
character are pretty close. But the other issue is that
I was trying to do voice of character who was
signific agantly younger than I am.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
So yeah, I just watched a video of a voice
actor who works a lot, who's whose professional works a lot,
talking about playing younger people, and it was it was
a really interesting video. Did you sing a song I
did not.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I did not want to force anyone to have to
hear me sing, so I chose not to.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh sadness, I did, but it was really hard to
pick a song that I'm like, I sound good acapella
on this, So.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, I'm not sure what I would have picked had
I done an a cappella song, Like, I wouldn't want
to do anything Disney because that it's kind of like
when you go into a musical audition, you don't want
to bring as your audition piece a song from that musical.
Like that's kind of like just bad etiquette for actors.
Typically in musical theater settings, you want to find something

(10:53):
that is in a similar tone to whatever you are
auditioning for, but you don't want it to be that
show same thing. Like I didn't want to because I
would have otherwise done the beginning of guests on because
I would have sung as Lafou, But then it would
have just been me doing an impersonation of Lafou, I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Just voice acting. That could have been helpful, Yeah, especially.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
If they're like, hell, we need another Lafou Let's.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, no, look it's I love Disney, but they like
their sequels. I think. I guess it's because kids also
like sequels, so you never know. But yeah, it's like
you don't want to wear the band two shirt to
the concert.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yes, exactly, don't be that guy. So that's the stuff
I saw in a bit about what we both did.
But Ariel, you also have seen some stuff I'm sure
since the last time we recorded.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, not as much as usual because my my folks
were visiting last week and it was an absolutely wonderful visit.
But like, we did watch some TV, but it wasn't
like anything super geeky or it was something that I've
already watched, Like we watched through the verbs and stuff
like that. Most of the way, we did play Sunderfolk,

(12:04):
which is animals trying to keep their underground town from
dying and fighting ogres and mushrooms and things like that.
That it's a four person game and it's tactical cooperative,
and everybody plays on their phone, and we completed the
entire game, all four of us, So that was a
lot of fun. I'm watching the new season of task Master,

(12:25):
which is delightful. I watched the series season finale of
The Pit. It's not a serious finale Thank goodness. It
was very good. I've watched through all of the English
Last One English speaking Last One Laughings. I really liked
South Africa Australia. They had one comedian that everything was

(12:50):
a gross sex joke and it was just so gross,
and that comedian Whuilch stripped down to his birthday suit
several times, like that's not cool, right, Like comedians know
each other, and I know that comedians often have a
bit of a rise a rye or a blue sense
of humor because they're trying to like it's that shock

(13:12):
value that gets them because they live in the comedy industry.
Not all of them, but a lot of them have historically,
it seems like. But this guy just he wrot. I
did not enjoy watching him. So so that was an
interesting experience. And then I went to see on Tuesday
night drop Out Improv, which was several members from the

(13:33):
Dropout cast and community doing an improv show. It was
Theater Sports. Mainly it was Jeremy Coolhayne, Jess McKenna, who
I've seen twice because I've gotten to see an off
book the last two times it's come to Atlanta, Jacob Waizaki,
his grandma was in the audience and that was delightful.
Kurt was the host. There was also Giovanni who was

(13:56):
really funny, and Kimiya before I'm not gonna slaughter her
last name because without reading it it's harder for me,
but Kimmi is like my favorite. She and zach O
Yama both are really good at like support and then
giving one liners. It was a wonderful show. They had
a version. Some of it was stuff like challenge or

(14:17):
debate or whatever, and some of it or like World's Worst,
and those were okay. But they did a couple like
audition or a made up musical, and they also did
a version of musical Torture that I hadn't seen before,
and I really liked where they would do a scene

(14:38):
and when the music played, they had to sing. But
it wasn't like the musician's going to cue you up
for a short song and you're going to sing it
and then you can go back to the scene. It
was when the music started playing, whatever wherever you were
in the sentence, you started singing, and when the music stopped,
you went back to talking. And so sometimes it was
just like two notes like dot dude, and they'd be like, ah,
have going to this corner. Yeah, like the music styles

(15:01):
would change. It was very funny, and because it was
so quick paced on the music coming on and off,
it was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
It was a really good time. Yeah, it was a
really good time. A couple of my friends were there
and they got interviewed for the story behind the final
musical that they made up, and that was also pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
So yes, it's funny because at one point you suspected
that perhaps if he would have been part of it,
because he went to our local Renaissance festival and did
a little social video post about it.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah, I but he didn't show up at the show.
It could just be that the person that he was
there with might be one of his partners and she
might be on cast.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh wow, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
So our one of our mutual friends was suspecting that
might be the case. I guess I'll be able to
confirm when I'm there in another week. It doesn't matter.
But what does matter is it seems like if he
had a good time, it seems like the dropout cast
had a good time in Atlanta, which is really great.
I was kind of worried because I've never seen a

(16:11):
more My therapist tells me I'm neurodivergent, and I believe her,
But also I've never seen a more neurodivergent audience in
my life. Half of the half of the suggestions they
gave were things like Kennesaw dragon con frolic con, things
that if you aren't in Atlanta and you don't know

(16:33):
what it is, what are you going to do with
that suggestion?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yes, it's meaningless. It would be like constant lyon Avenue
and well, if you don't that's just a name. Yeah,
if you're not if you're not from Atlanta, that doesn't
mean anything, or shooting the hooch, like, yeah, if you
don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I mean they got they got the content context clues
well enough, and they did a really great job. They
had amazing like recall, So you know, that's a huge
thing in improv is recalling back to an earlier thing
because it's it's funny when you're able to tie it
back in.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
The audience always loves that.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, they did that superbly. There was someone in the
audience who booed at one thing and that was funny,
but then they thought it was funny to boot at
a lot of things, which I found.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
A little Yeah, see, that's the Those are the kind
of moments that discourage me from going to like improv
or stand up. Like anytime where the audience feel like
someone in the audience feels like they are more entertaining
or a big part of whatever is going up on stage,

(17:42):
and I tried to resist that, like once in a
blue moon, that person will be me. But usually it's
because there's a moment that gets so awkward that I'm
cutting the silence. Yeah, Like there was a moment that
a Dad's Garage show where a character said the first
half of his catchphrase, but it became pretty obvious that

(18:04):
there were maybe four people in the entire audience who
knew what the second half of the catchphrase was and
nobody else did, and so it was just quiet, probably
for like two seconds, but it felt like an eternity.
So I very meekly finished the catchphrase and the actor
on stage stopped, turned to me and said thank you, Jonathan,

(18:25):
and then they continued. So it was funny, but I
was like, even in the moment, I wasn't sure that
what I was doing was right.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, And like this this person or these people
who did it. I think that they were trying to
be supportive to the moment that was being had.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, I just.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I and this is maybe more of a me problem.
The cast seemed to roll with it, and that's totally fine.
Jessey Jeremy Kulane was also in the cast. I think
I started with that yeah okay, but like one of
the moments it was like, we're going to cut to
our sponsors, and a bunch of people booed, and I
can kind of get that, but like if you keep

(19:04):
doing it, then they weren't trying to heckle, but it
felt that way to me. I was like, yeah, the
moment his past, this is anyhow, it's neither here nor there.
The audience had a good time, the show was great.
It seems like the cast had a great time, which
I really do hope. I would love for them to
come back. But it was I'm glad that I went.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's the sort of show that I think would do
really really well during dragon Con season.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think so too. That was one of the suggestions
was dragon Con, and they didn't know what it was,
which made me a little sad because I keep hoping
they'll come to dragon Con, especially since Sam has seen
you know, it's probably the cast members not knowing, because
Sam has definitely seen posts from dragon Con, but people
dressed up like him doing Game Changer, or like Vic
Mchaalis as a giant squid. So Sam is at least

(19:55):
aware that this thing exists.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
But yeah, yeah, but like again, if you're not from
the Southeast, or if you haven't lived here in a
long time, you don't really understand what the significance is
within the culture of the kind of geek community that
tends to have a pretty strong overlap with the dropout
TV audience.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but all in all a plus experience.
I would do it again, maybe in a different venue,
maybe in a different venue. The venue was not the best,
but you know what, if it were in that venue,
I know the things that bothered me and I know
how to avoid them. It was a little bit of

(20:34):
frustration getting into the show, but one percent worth it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, I'm glad that you had a good time, and
I'm glad that you were able to have a good
time because like all the frustrating things that happened to Ariel,
and we're not going to go into them, but they
happened like mostly at the very before the show even started.
So for you to be able to have a good
time after that, that says a lot to the experience, right,
because like I know, I've gone to things where something

(20:58):
happens before stuff get started. That just sours me on
the entire experience, and that sucks, and.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Then I'm cranky. And I don't want to be the
cranky person at a dropout show because like that community
is generally so loving and supportive of each other.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, that's why we're like, tell you what, I'm just
going to go and hang out in the bathroom for
two hours. Everyone's gonna think like I'm the wrong element
at the dropout show because I'm just hanging out in
the bathroom, Like, no, I'm just trying to spare everyone
my bad mood.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah yeah, but it was good. I spared everyone my
bad mood and it was a wonderful time.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
And you had a good time. Well, I'm so pleased
to hear that. I was. I was eager to hear
so I had not heard yet from Ariel how the
show went. I wanted to wait until we had this
conversation because I figured that I could delight in it
the same as you listeners. So I'm glad that we
got a chance to hear about that. I'm glad you
had that experience. I know that you're keeping the theater,

(22:01):
the live theater experience going strong because you've got plans
to see a musical coming up not too long from now,
So that's gonna be cool.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I might try to go see my friend is there's
like a Shakespeare in Hollywood play that's going on in
Tucker right now that my friend is in that, I
might go try to see. It's only playing for two weekends.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
But so Becca, I didn't say this like my partner Rebecca.
She went up to take her mom to a performance
of improvised Shakespeare over at Princeton University, and she said
it was spectacular. She said it was so funny, and

(22:40):
we saw it twice when it was here in Atlanta.
But she said it was a truly spectacular show and
that her mom had a great time. So I'm glad
to hear that that turned out really well. So that's
another thing. If you like, even if you don't really
like Shakespeare, but especially if you do like Shakespeare, if
you have the opportunity need to see the Improvised Shakespeare

(23:02):
Company perform in person. Make sure you take that effort.
It is well worth it. They are so incredibly talented
and entertaining, and you can tell that they really enjoy
surprising each other because like they almost take pride in
finding ways to make everybody else on the team laugh

(23:23):
and it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, if they're in your town, definitely check them out.
My husband is also like, he doesn't hate Shakespeare, but
he's not a huge fan. He loved it, Like I
came out with a headache.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
I laughed so hard when I saw Yeah, no, it was.
It was quite the experience. I highly recommended. We have
no connection to those folks at all. We just are
great admirers.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yep. The closest connection I have is I have family.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Sorry, I was like, is Aeriel pausing because she does
have connection? And I just lied? Or no, she was
yawning because I'm so close.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Oh it's still the bad picture. Okay, yeah, I forgot.
You can't see me. No, I was yawning. The closest
connection I have is that I have family that lives
in Chicago and they go see it kind of more regularly.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
So yeah, there's there. They have one troop in Chicago
and one in LA but they also tour around. So
apparently they're going to be in Denver for like two months.
Oh wow yeah? Uh all right, Well, is there anything
else that you you saw or do you want us
to move on to our thirty seconds or last segment?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't think there's anything else I saw that is
worth mentioning.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, noki, Well then uh let's let's let's get that
theme music ago and then here we go. Some sad
news to start us off. This week, we learned of
the passing of Patrick Muldoon, an actor that sci fi
geeks might know as Sander Barclow in the movie Starship Troopers.
He was a working actor who appeared in dozens of

(24:56):
film and TV projects throughout his career. He passed away
on April nineteenth, at the too young age of fifty seven.
We wish his family and loved ones comfort in their
time of grief.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Next news on murder, she wrote, So Jamie Lee Curtis
is doing a murder. She wrote, movie that was going
to come out in December twenty second, twenty twenty seven.
Now it's coming out on February fourth, twenty twenty eighth.
The studio has moved it just because there are less
other movies coming out during that time for it to
compete with, which you know, I love Murder, she wrote,
and I love Jimmy Lee Curtis, so I definitely have

(25:27):
interested in seeing it. But there are a lot of
the current population that maybe are not familiar with Murder,
she wrote, So I think that is a wise decision.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, and it also avoids the stereotypical January release, which
is in Hollywood circles known as the month where you
put films that you don't expect to do very well.
So hopefully in February it'll it'll find an audience. All right. Well,
the cast for the live action Elden Ring film is
coming together, and I'm pleased to see that. Peter Sarah

(25:58):
Fenowitz's name is on that list. Other actors involved include
Tom Burke, Havana, Roselu, Sonoya Mizuna, Jonathan Price, another one
of my favorite actors, Ruby Cruz, John Hodgkinson, Jefferson Hall,
Nick Offerman, Kit Connor, Ben Wishaw, Kaylee Spanny, and Emma Laird.

(26:19):
I think, actually Ariel and I might be the only
people who are not cast in that movie yet.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, I is Elden Rings. That's not the same one
as Elder Scrolls. Correct.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
No, Elden Ring was made by the same group that
did Dark Souls, but it has George R. R. Martin's
work as part of Like He Was. He helped create
the mythology around that video game.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I am excited for it. I just wanted to make
sure I wasn't I thought they were separate, but I
wanted to make sure I wasn't accidental.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Yeah, no, it's listen, video game
names are confusing. You had every right to ask that question.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yes. In other news in Atlanta News, actually Green Bank
is starting filming which is a creature feature being done
by Josh Ruben with an astounding cast Tatanya, Tatiana Maslani.

(27:20):
I swear I can speak my old Nanjianni Nan Gianni,
Jim Lushi, Brittany O'Grady and Taylor john Smith working with
like people from Walking Dead and Shoot what's the other
one that they did Suicide Squad and Twelve Years of
Slave and Fallout and like just Star Trek Strange New Worlds.

(27:44):
It's an amazing cast, it's an amazing crew. It's filming
in Atlanta. I haven't gotten an audition for it. I
wouldn't be able to tell you if I did, but
I haven't, although I went back and looked and I
did at least see an audition come through, But I
totally miss that Josh Rubin was involved in it. Anyhow,
it's really cool. I'm glad that they're filming this in Atlanta.
It has to do with the quiet space in is

(28:05):
it West Virginia? I believe so, yes, Green Bank where
they do a lot of scientific research. So there's very
limited like electronic airwave radio stuff like cell phones aren't
allowed and things like that.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's like a radio dead zone because they want to
be able to do things like use like radio telescopes
and you can't have any interference in the area if
you want to get very precise scientific measurements.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, way for me to bury the lead.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
No, no, like well, and also Josh Ruben. The reason
I gave you there's another Josh Ruben story you'll have
in a second. But the reason I gave them to you,
of course, is because he has appeared on Dropout TV.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, I really liked his last movie. I'm glad he's
doing another one. I'm super glad he's doing in Atlanta.
Who knows. Maybe they'll show up at the Renaissance Festival
too one weekend.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah. And also, I mean you've been watching test Master,
maybe you'll see well, now, Johnny in person.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Not fantastic on task Master. I'm really enjoying watching him
do the show.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
So yes, yeah, And as I said at the top
of the show, we are rusty and dusty. This is
three seconds or less. Here we go again. Musician and
composer Jorge Rivera Haran began working on a musical adaptation
of Homer's the Odyssey while he was in grad school.
He divided the epic poem into sagas, which are essentially
a little like mini adventures that Odysseus goes on throughout

(29:26):
the entirety of the story, and he shared his progress
on platforms like TikTok Now. The project, titled Epic, is
poised to become an animated musical produced by Jerry Bruckheimer. Well,
poke out my eye and call me poly femous, all right.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Poly femous. I actually love the music from it, and
I'm very excited. Going back to Josh Rubin, We're getting
a heart eyes too. The last one was announced, started
filming in twenty twenty four in February, and came out
and twenty twenty five in February. We don't know if
the same actors will be involved in the next one

(30:05):
because they're still in the writing process. But I think
that's pretty spectacular.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Absolutely well. From the floors of Tokyo to London, Town's
a go go. Everyone is ready to listen to a
vampire rock out while they dance alone. And now you
can because Vampire Less Stat. The Land Court's cover of
Billy Idols Dancing with Myself is now available on platforms
like Apple Music and Spotify. Sam Reid plays the Vampire

(30:32):
rock Star and AMC's the Vampire Less stat and it's
his version you can rock out to. Ooooh it's magic,
you know, dancing with myself? Uh oh, come on, let's
dancing with all right? Anyway, that is our thirty seconds,

(30:53):
our last. It's time for us to move on to
a segment that we like to call stuff we thought
we should talk about, even though there ain't no Elves
or aliens in them.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, I guess that's true. Well, the last one might
have some elves or aliens in it. So the first
thing we have is a trailer for a movie called
Hershey This is not the story of mister Slugworth competing
against Willy Wonka. This is, I guess, the semi based

(31:24):
in truth story of how Hershey's came to be the
chocolate company.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, the founder Milton S. Hershey and his quest to
create a chocolate factory at a time when chocolate was
not really the candy dujoure. I thought the trailer felt
like it was really trying to be a more grounded
version of Willy Wonka. Like it felt like, let's tap

(31:49):
into the wonder and the wistfulness of Willy Wonka, but
you know, make it grounded in reality. That's that's the
feeling I got from this trade.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I did too, and then I had to remember that
Hershey's is a real entity that even has a theme
park now, and Willy Wonka possibly stole a little bit
from them.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, but I get the feeling. I would say that
they're they're probably cherry picking, but maybe they're chocolate picking
these stories they want to do. Alexandra de Dario is
in this playing Kitty, Milton's love interest. Richard Kind is
also in it. I want to point out this movie

(32:31):
is produced by Angel Studios. They're out of Utah, and
they typically not always, but they often produce films that
have kind of a Christian slant to them, and I
think that kind of comes through in this trailer as well.
Not to say that there's any like like overt Christian

(32:52):
you know, themes or anything, but it just feels kind
of nice, like I'm not sure there's going to be
too much conflict in this movie.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I mean, they also did sketch. They really do like
smaller budget, more family friendly stuff for sure, but they
also did that sketch one with Darcy Cardon about the
girl who drawed Druid scary bobsters.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah yeah. Also Daniel dan and.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
By a lot of Christians just saying yeah, Daniel.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
David Stewart is also in this. I know his work
from musicals rather than from film and television, but I
just when I saw that name, I was like, oh,
that's interesting. This comes out November twenty sixth. I don't
know how to feel about this, Like, I'm sure the
early days of Hershey were not as dark as say

(33:43):
the years around two thousand when it came to light
that Hershey wasn't really tracing the source of their chocolate
too closely. So there became this big controversy about how
some of the chocolate, some of the farms where they
were getting their chocolate were making use of child slave labor.
And then and then there was like more controversy as

(34:06):
it just became clear that Hershey was finding it real
challenging to find other sources, like like it was taking
way too long for them to segue away from operations
that were making use of forced child labor. So but
that was not in that was not Milton Hershey's day.
But still it's.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, I haven't done that research. I don't know, but
I I you know, I don't blame you for getting
Greatest Showman vibes off of it.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, well, I mean the same. Well, I think the
thing that really set me off is that we just
got the the biopic for Michael Jackson, which does not
address any of the more challenging aspects of that man's life.
And so, uh, it's one of those things where I'm like,
I I worry about stories that are perhaps a little

(35:00):
to complimentary or not critical enough, Like it doesn't have
to be a you know, a whole movie trashing a person,
but at least to you know, kind of give a
full view of a person's life. I think is more
more honoring someone than just saying this was Willie Wonka

(35:20):
but without the magic.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know it. I, like I said,
haven't done a lot of I don't ever think we
covered Hershey on business on the brink.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
No, we never did.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, so you know, I haven't done the research into
his life. I don't know what the early days were like,
you know, I I guess I my old school heart
is like, oh, everybody is just going to view this
as a fictional story based on a real life thing.
But I guess some people don't. Yeah, I don't. I

(35:55):
don't know. I haven't seen the movie. I also haven't
watched the Michael Jackson biopic. But yeah, I can understand
your concerns. I might see it and see where it goes,
because it could just be that some of those darker
things aren't shown in the trailer. If there are darker things.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Well, to continue on the road of Angel Studios, that's
also the company that produced the next movie that's on
our list, which is Angel and the bad Man. This
is actually a remake of a nineteen forty seven western
that starred John Wayne. This one has Zachary Levi and
Tommy Lee Jones among other people. Obviously, the original story

(36:36):
is about a gunfighter who is wounded and shows up
at a Quaker family's farm and they nurse him back
to health, and then he kind of has a struggle
over whether to continue his life as sort of a
bandit and an outlaw or to leave that part of

(36:59):
his life behind him and embrace more of a peaceful
future the way the Quakers did. And so it's a
contemplative piece. I don't know if that's going to be
exactly the same thing, but it does sound like the
kind of story that Angel studios would want to tell.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
I feel like you're really bashing them.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Well, I'm not bashing them so much as I feel
like they have a certain perspective that informs not all,
but a lot of the films they produce. And it's
not necessarily a bad thing. I mean, like a lot
of movie studios have that perspective. It just is like

(37:40):
when I see something like that, I think, Okay, yeah,
this seems to follow my perspective of you could just
argue it's a bias that I have.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I think it is because there are like, there are
people who've been on Dropout who do stuff Freddie Wong
for instance, who has done stuff with them and things
like that. You know, they do a lot of family
friendly stuff. They certainly do have some things that lean
very faith based, and they have some stuff that don't.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
But I understand, I do think, but I think that
this story is one worth telling. Like I think a
story of someone who has had a past, a violent past,
who then has the opportunity to change who they are
and to change their way of life and to see
that struggle play out, I think that that's a compelling story,

(38:34):
and clearly it's compelling enough to remake it.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
So Yeah, I never saw the original, but this, like
the story log line, does sound interesting to me. I
do like like westerns.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I'm guessing Tommy Lee Jones is playing the father of
the young woman who's the love interest in this story.
I don't think Tommy Lee Jones would be playing the
bad guy.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, and Angel Studios is actually named after Angel investors
that help with crowdfunding into finance organization and organize productions,
so they tend to run on smaller budgets.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, I just think of them as the studio out
of Provo, Utah, which is also very much in the
Church of Latter day Saints territory. To get it. It
comes out in October this year, it doesn't look bad
like it actually looks like it'll be It's interesting to
me that anyone's even making a Western, just because I

(39:29):
don't know how well Westerns have been performing. There's been
a few kind of load to mid budget westerns recently,
so from a business perspective, I just find it surprising
that people are making them. But I know that there
are like neo Westerns, like things like Yellowstone or whatever
that have been immensely popular, So perhaps that's the reason.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
And like I think it's I think it's cyclical, right,
and maybe it's one that doesn't get ground into the
dirt because like for a while, we had a whole
bunch of Noirs come out yea, or a whole bunch
of like the State kind of sci fi, and we've
had like around the same time, I think a Million
Ways to Die in the West, which was a seth
McFarlane far in production production, and we also had Aliens

(40:10):
versus cowboys, you know, we recently had a Magnificent seven
come back out, so like, there are even some of
Marble's what if has been in the West, So like,
I think it is just one of those things that
just like pops up every so often to see if
it's a current trend.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, it is definitely part of America's mythology, right, Like,
it's a big part of America's mythology in its history,
So it's understandable. It's just one of those things where
it's like, I'm always curious about what resonates with audiences,
but to be fair, I'm also at an age where
I am less and less likely going to be able

(40:47):
to answer that question. Like I'm shocked when anything resonates
with an audience at this point, because I have the
perception that most younger audiences don't have the attention span
to sit through a television episode, let alone a film.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, it is interesting, and then there's like a whole
group of people who are who are trying to get
away from social media and smartphones altogether.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
So yep, that's kind of me yep.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
But let's let's go ahead and move on sure to
Night and Day, which is a Virginia Wolf story, because
things like I ge think Christy and Virginia Wolf also
come around and cyclical.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, this is kind of interesting because, at least from
the trailer, it looks to me like the story mostly
follows the character of Catherine. But if you read Night
and Day, there are four characters, two men and two women,
who are kind of the primary focus of the story.
There's a lot of supporting characters, but those are the

(41:47):
four who the story revolves around. But the way this
trailer plays out, it makes me think that Catherine is
the main character and everyone else is supporting. It's also
odd because at least the version that we we pulled
for our show notes, the version I pulled for our
show notes talks about Lily Allen being in this. Lily

(42:08):
Allen does not blake Catherine. She plays Mary, who is
in the novel one of the other main one of
those four characters I just mentioned, but in this it
looks like she plays a supporting role. So but generally speaking,
it's a story about a woman who has high ambitions
to to pursue academic studies in the Victorian age, but

(42:30):
she is encountering massive resistance because you have an entrenched
patriarchy that's in charge and they don't. There's extremely misogynistic,
and so she's really finding it difficult to get acceptance
in this world where she clearly has passion and the
intelligence to be an important contributor. But yeah, that's kind

(42:55):
of the the basis for the story. Oh and that
and her family really just wants to get married.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah. I also has did you mention it has the
guy who was the husband in the Burbs.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Jack Whitehall?

Speaker 1 (43:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I did not mention that, but he is in it.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah. It looks fun. I almost wonder if, like, maybe
they're focusing on Lily's story and then maybe they'll come
out with a sequel that focuses on one of the
other person's stories. I've never read Night and Day, so
I don't think I've read a lot of Virginia Wolf,
to be honest. But it looks good. It looks fun.

(43:33):
It looks like there are charismatic characters in it, and
people fighting to do the things that they love and
that they think are important and trying to gain agency
in life. And I really like that kind of story.
So I'm very interested in it me too.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I think it looks like it's well made and all
the actors look like they're doing a great job. You've
got also folks like Jennifer Saunders and Timothy Spall who
are in it. This comes to UK cinemas on June nineteenth.
I am not sure about US distribution right now. Hopefully
it will make its way across the pond to us.

(44:05):
And I'm guessing also the aerial that your lawn workers
have returned. Either that or you're making margarita's.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I wish I were making a margarita. Yeah, my lawn
workers have returned because they love me that much.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Well, let's just.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I'm so sorry everyone. They were silent all morning. I
might talk to them and be like, hey, can you
not do this around this time on Fridays and focus
on other parts of the neighborhoods.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Let's just call them for what they are. They're a
bunch of idiots.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
They are not. But the people in our next trailer
definitely are. I don't know. Actually, I don't think James
Franco is an idiot. He's one of the actors in
the next thing. Idiots is the trailer.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Actually it's Dave Franco, but.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Which is what I meant. I rescind my previous comments.
I do not think Dave Franco is necess really an idiot.
But sorry, it's the loan workers. They're throwing me off
my game totally. Yeah, this this movie is kind of
a heist movie, but it also feels like a ninety
stoner movie with like craft humor.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
In it and lots of violence and.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Lots of violence. That is what I got from That
is the entirety of what I got from the trailer.
I was gonna say, there were only like one or
two moments in the trailer that made me laugh, So
watching it, I was kind of like, this is idiotic.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
It's hard to it's hard to laugh because the trailer
is made up of such short little snippets of the film,
and it's usually someone getting hurt somehow because it's just
like lots of little punch shots, not actual punches, but
you know, like boom boom boom, boom boom, So you
don't really get to see the setup or anything. You're

(45:53):
just seeing a lot of payoff, and that has like
you know off, Yeah, has a limited efficacy for me anyway.
But Dave Franco and O'shee Jackson Junior play the titular idiots.
I'm guessing Peter Dinklage is also in this movie. The
basic premise is that these two idiots are tasked with

(46:17):
getting a rich, spoiled, privileged teenager to rehab and then
they encounter all sorts of weirdness along the way. Originally,
this movie was meant to star Luke Wilson and Tracy
Morgan in it, and it had a much ruder title,
one that you know, we don't we would not say

(46:39):
on a family friendly show like ours. But this version
comes out on August twenty eighth.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, I'm gonna skip this one.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I I might try and watch it, but it doesn't
really look like my bag either. It might it might
be it might be weird enough for me to enjoy,
but it looks almost like it's the kind of thing
where it's supposed to just the comedy is supposed to
just come from shocking the audience, and I have a

(47:11):
pretty low tolerance for that. I'm like, Okay, sure, I
get it, but do you have another trick besides that one? Yeah,
it's like a horror movie that's just jump scares I'm like, yeah, okay, quiet,
and then it gets real loud, real fast. Do you
have any other tricks up your sleeve? Because this gets
old fast?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Speaking of people whose tricks get old fast, I feel
that way about not everything, but a lot of things
that Sasha Baron Cohen does. Or are we not ready to?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Oh, we're ready, We're ready. Okay, let's do it. Yeah,
So you're talking about Ladies First, which is a new
comedy coming out with Sasha Baron Cohen playing the lead character.
He is a chauvinistic businessman, like a business leader, but
then he gets bunked on the noggin and when he
wakes up, he's in an alternate reality where women are

(48:02):
the top of the social order and men are second
class citizens, and he tries. He finds it difficult to
navigate this world, and he finds himself like all the
women in the world where he's you know, he's usually
doing his whole chauvinistic I'm the man in charge kind
of thing. They just find that so adorable, so cute.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean so, I've not been a huge
fan of his comedy, like Ali g or Borat or whatever.
I do like like the stuff he's done in musicals,
so his Little Bit and Sweety Todd and Limz I
thought he did very good. The clips I've seen of
him in Ironheart have also been pretty good. It's not

(48:44):
that I think he's a bad actor. I just don't
like that humor. But this one actually kind of looks
fun to me.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah. It's based loosely off a French film that the
English title is I Am Not an Easy Man. And
it also has as Richard D. Grant, isn't it. I
love Richard D. Grant that man. That man does not
know how to leave scenery intact, he will chew every
piece of it in a three mile radius and I

(49:11):
love him for it. And yeah, Rosamond Pike is also
in This comes out May twenty second on Netflix, so
if you have Netflix you can check it out. But yeah,
I think this looks like if it's if it's really
done in a fun way, which is why the trailer
makes it look it could be a pretty fun satire slash,

(49:33):
you know, commentary on social politics as they exist in
What would happen if you flip those on their head?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah? Yeah, I agree, And it's not play it's over
the top, but it's not too over the top as well.
So the last one we have in stuff that doesn't fit,
which I mean if it's for me, but I'm sure
there's a whole group of people listening who don't even
know what it it is, which is what's the story Wishbone,

(50:03):
which is a document mentory about the TV show Wishbone,
which was a little doggie teaching kids about literacy through
fantasy play.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, yeah, this dog, this this Jack Crystal Terrier named Wishbone,
would imagine himself playing a part, usually the lead, but
sometimes a supporting character in classic stories, and that could
be anything from a novel to a poem to you know,
all sorts of classic works like theater. I think there

(50:37):
was a Romeo and Juliet One as well. But he
usually imagines himself in one of the pivotal roles, and
it's kind of a retelling, and it's in the framework
of a dog living with a modern day family, and
usually it's the kid who's been assigned something for school
and the dog's like, oh, I love that story, and

(50:59):
then you get like this version of the story told
with the dog as a central character. Wishbone has a
very special place in my life because my dad wrote
several books in the Companion book series. He wrote Be
a Wolf, which was obviously be a Wolf. He wrote
Salty Dog, which was a version of Treasure Island. So like,

(51:22):
when you put this on the list, I was like,
does Ariel know that dad wrote these books?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I didn't. And here's the thing. I like, Wishbone came about.
I think like after a time that I would generally
watch Wishbone. But I taught daycare for many years, so
maybe it came on in a time where, like I
was old, bit older, but still able to enjoy it.
I don't remember the exact timing of it, but I
know I figured it completely missed you, other than the

(51:50):
fact that it's a Jack Russell and I know you
like Jack Russell Terrier.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
I mean, honestly, Wishbone's the reason why the first dog
my partner and I got was a Jack Rustle, because we,
you know, we thought Wishbone was cute. We thought, you know,
my dad was starting to write the books. And then
we got a dog and we named him Falstaff, and
Falstaff the Jack Crystal Terrier. We got fal Staff, and

(52:13):
then we had thisby and now I've got Timbolt, so
it's all Shakespeare names.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
But yeah, I feel ashamed for not knowing because I've
known you for what twenty twenty plus years now.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
It's fine, it's fine, but yeah, if you if you
do a search for Wishbone and Brad Strickland, you'll see
some of the books. So Dad wrote a couple that
were kind of kind of kid's versions of various classic stories.
But he also did a spinoff series where it was

(52:45):
a mystery series with Wishbone serving as like the Detective,
which which were not based specifically on like a classic
novel or something. It wasn't Murder on the Orient Express
with a dog, although.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I would watch you know, maybe I did know this
and I forgot because brains. But the trailer is really
nice because when you listen to them all talk, they're like,
we couldn't have done it without this dog actor because like,
I don't know how, but he really understood the content
he was putting out there.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, he had a lot of personality and I don't
know how easy it was to get the shots because
there is one point where one of the people was like,
like you can tell what he means because he's just
saying like this show had a dog and kids, because
like the W. C. Fields, or at least the quote
often attributed to W. C. Fields is never work with

(53:38):
kids or animals because they're just so difficult to work with.
And this show had both. But yeah. The documentary comes
out on PBS here in the United States on May
twenty seventh and runs through June ninth, but then it
will be available for rent on video on demand starting
June tenth.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I'm excited for it.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah, look's cute.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to tamp down my excitement for
a bit, I fear.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Oh why because it's time to check out Watson John Boys,
Horror hotch.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah can I can I check out?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Nope, You've got to come along. But hey, hey, there
are absolutely no spiders this week because all the all
the spiders are on holiday because it's their spring break.
It comes a little later in the year for them,
so right now they're currently swarming Lego Land.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
So instead, that's fine, that's fine. I'm not at Lego Land.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
That's yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Fine.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Instead, we just have this dusty old cabinet that's for
some reason filled with jars of teeth, plus some movie trailers. Okay,
So first up, we have a film called Sick Puppy,
and I said, the couple that slays together stays together.

(54:55):
So in Sick Puppy you have a couple and the
woman has married a serial killer. I assume they're married.
Maybe they're just dating, but anyway, the woman she's she's
with a serial killer. She knows he's a serial killer.
She's not thrilled about his extracurricular activities. So at one
point he decides like he's gonna stop being a serial

(55:18):
killer and he's gonna take up He's going to really
focus on on his art in order to express his feelings.
And his art is pottery, but he's not good at it.
And his change in behavior means that he starts to
no longer be the man that she fell in love with.
So then she decides to try and be a supportive
partner and help him get back into the axe swing

(55:40):
of things, kind of by by getting him back onto
the serial killer lifestyle. So it looks like it's it's
horror plus some satire and dark comedy, Like the trailer
really stresses the horror more like it's it's absurd. It's
an absurd premise. But the trailer doesn't make it zany

(56:02):
like the trailers much more on the horror side of things.
I don't know if the film is going to feel
the same way, but it's interesting comes out May twenty second,
So that was one of I actually had a ton
of movies in this section and I narrowed it down
to three, and that's one of the reasons I chose
this one is it thought it had an interesting premise.

(56:22):
Next we have Yes Affect. Did you watch these?

Speaker 1 (56:25):
By the way, I did not. I was wondering if
you were going to ask me. I thought about it,
and then I was like, okay, I'm running out of time.
So usually I leave them for last in case I
have time, and.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
One of them I specifically told you do not watch, and.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I couldn't remember which one and that in its name,
so I was like, you know what, let's just skip
it this week. I'm so sorry. I want to be
a supportive podcast partner with you, but uh no.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Totally fair, totally fair. So next up, we have Affection.
So here's the summary of what this movie is about. Quote.
Afflicted by a mistake serious condition that resets her memory,
Ellie becomes trapped in a cyclical nightmare with a man
who claims to be her husband. She must soon uncover
the horrifying truth of her existence before she forgets it

(57:13):
all again. End quote. So it looks like there's a
lot of like gas lighting in this where the man
who says he's her husband is saying things that may
not in fact be true, but because she isn't able
to remember, she can't falsify them, and he may not
be what he seems to be. That that's the way

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the trailer is is pitching this. It looks like it's
a pretty intense movie.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
It does.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
The trailer does start with a trope I hate, which
is person on the ground, zoom in, person suddenly gasps
and wakes up, Like it's just like, I'm like, can
you search your trailer some other way? Except in this case,
her eyes are open. She's like face down on asphalt,

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but her eyes are open. But then she and she
appears to be dead. Then suddenly she goes like that
and like, oh, it's one of those trailers. It comes
out May eighth. It looks interesting. So again I picked
that one to talk about specifically because it was more
of an interesting take on horror than some of the
other stuff I saw. The third one, I have a question, yes, please,

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do they lean.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
More into horror or thriller suspense in the trailer?

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Actually, I would say probably more thriller suspense in the trailer,
but there's definitely horror like. It's one of those also
that has like the quotes that come up as the
movie starts, like as the trailer starts, like like this
this film will stay with you long after it's over.
That kind of thing, those sort of quotes.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
It was briefly on my list and now it's gone again.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
I mean, I think you could totally watch the trailer
for Affection. I don't think it's the kind of movie
you would necessarily gravitate toward. I think you could handle it,
but it doesn't feel like an aerial movie to me.
I do think it looks interesting. I might check that
one out. The third one is one I had trouble with.
This is the one I told you do not watch,

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and that is the trailer for Saccharin. Now that's not
me saying that this is bad. It's me saying like,
I struggled with this trailer, and you know me. So
it's an Australian horror movie. So, first of all, Everything's
upside down. Uh, that's just a joke. No, it's not.
It is Australian, but it's not. Nothing's upside down. Uh

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it's But it was probably the hardest trailer for me
to watch for this this batch of trailers, largely because
the sound design. So that sound design includes a whole
lot of squishy noises and eating sounds, so because of mesophonia.
That really gets to me. But the log line for
this one is quote, after succumbing to an obscure weight

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loss craze involving the eating of human ashes, lovelorn medical
student Hannah finds herself terrorized by the ghost of the
person she's eating. End quote. So cannibalism automatically tells me
it's a no no for Ariel, even though I mean,
they're eating like human ashes. These are people who have
died them and cremated. But even so, I'm like, that's

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that's bordering on aerials. No, no, list it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Although I did just listen into a saw Bones episode
where they were talking about how people in olden times
used to eat powdered mummy, so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember reading about it because I
was like during the Egyptology, early Egyptology phase of like
the early nineteen hundreds in England in particular.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, so it is interesting that they're leaning on that
old kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah, well, this is it's also a film that seems
to be spiritually tied to other movies like The Substance,
which you know, they tend to be kind of commentaries
about self image and societal expectations for how a woman
should look, that kind of thing, Like, you know, The
Substance was all about aging, and uh, Saccharine looks like

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it's more about you know, body size, like weight, that
kind of thing, and you know, fitness reviews suggest that
it doesn't quite land as far as social commentary goes
like it has the idea but doesn't really stick the
landing based upon the reviews I was looking at. But
it does have a whole lot of gross out horror moments.

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So if you're the person who's like, man, I really
like something that pushes the limits of my boundaries, then
this might be it for you. It looks like it's
too much for me. It's not like yeah, well just
because like again like mesaphonia, like any eatings, like muck bang,
that kind of stuff. Just it gives me the hebgb's

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I can't take it. This comes out May twenty second though,
and then before we get out of the Horror Hutch,
I do have some quick mentions. I'm not going to
go into detail, but there are trailers out for Hungry,
which is a hippo attack movie, the Devil in Silver,
which is the latest installment in AMC's The Terror Anthology series.

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There's a teaser for Evil dead Burn, and there is
a trailer for Passenger, which looks like a combination of
I Know what you did last summer and it follows.
I didn't think any of those were as interesting as
the three I picked, which is why they are not
in the Horror Hutch and greater detail, and now it's
time for us to move on to the actual lineup.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
It's interesting because I feel like hungry hungry hippos, which
is what that is, and Evil Deadburn could almost go
into a regular lineup.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
But yeah, yeah, they probably could have, but like, well,
first of all, you don't like animal movies, so I
wasn't gonna subject you to that. But Hungry, I mean hungry,
it's like Jaws, but it's a hippo an evil dead burn.
It's a teaser where I feel like it's more like
giving you the feel for the movie as opposed to

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an actual trailer. So I don't know that they merit
much more discussion than that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Fair enough, Well, I'm happy to leave your horror hutch
because I think the teeth are winking at me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah. It's weird, right, yeah, yeah, as a spider. So
it's as Dan Halsen would say, you are cursed. Ariel
doesn't get that because she doesn't watch professional wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I don't know. No, I don't get it. I am
wondering how you got so many eye teeth into the jars.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
I mean, it wasn't me. I just own the hutch.
I don't put the stuff in it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
That's interesting. So it's like a sublet then.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, kind of like you know, it's I don't ask
any questions. It's uh the name on the lease is
a Modius. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Okay, okay, okay, Well we'll leave it there, just like
soon we will be leaving the world of good omens.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, so I didn't We did actually include this in
the lineup with a link to the trailer for a
couple of reasons. Those who have been following know that
Good Omens. One of the people involved with Good Omens
was Neil Gaman. Neil Gaman obviously had a massive controversy

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erupt about his behavior and his alleged abuse toward women,
and so we didn't really feel comfortable talking about it
for that reason, even though Neil Gaman did not have
any involvement in what is being called Good Omens Season three.
The other reason, though, is that I haven't watched Good

(01:04:38):
Omens season two, so I didn't want to watch season
three because clearly it might spoil stuff for season two.
I still haven't decided if I'm going to watch it,
right I kind of feel complicated about the way I
feel about Harry Potter, and so part of me wants
to watch it because I do think that David Tennant
and Michael Sheen do great work, think that Terry Pratchett,

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who co wrote Good Omens, did amazing work. So I
kind of want to see it, but I haven't, so
we have not. Actually I haven't watched this trailer, but.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
It's out if you have. I did watch season two,
I don't remember when it came out. In relation to
everything else, I think it came out beforehand.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, I think it came out before news had really
broken about gaming.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
But I do really like That's the sad thing is
I do really like Terry Pratchett and his work, So yeah,
I will. It's out there if you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Want to watch it, yeah, yeah, And there's no judgment
if you're if you're totally into it, like I'm. I
think this is a personal decision for each person, and
there's no right or wrong except on a personal level.
It does come to Prime video on May thirteenth. It
is a ninety minute movie, so this is not like
a full season the way season two was, because once

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that game and stuff started to come out, it really
affected like there were questions for a while but whether
or not they were even going to do any more
work at all on Good Omens, And the compromise was
that Gamen would not be involved and instead of doing
a full season, they would do like a ninety minute
wrap up of the story that was set up in
season two.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yeah, which which I think was a good decision. The
next thing we have is for another duo movie, but
this one there's a bigger age difference. It's Mandalorian and Grogu.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah, Grogu' is much older than the Mandalorian.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Yeah well yeah, yeah, because he's like fifteen the Mandalorians age.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
He's got to be like in his thirties, you know,
maybe Scal.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I also don't know Pedro Pscal's age.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Well yeah, I get the feeling that Mandalorian is younger
than Pedro Pascal, but who knows. This is the final
trailer for the Mandalorian and grogu And the one thing
I wrote down first of all, I wrote down there
was a lot of use of John Williams's various themes
from the Star Wars or saga like the Force and
the Imperial March has a little moment in it. And

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there's a lot of Sigourney Weaver as a rebellion slash
republic leader. And there's also a lot of cutesy stuff,
which nothing wrong with that, it is cute.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
There's also so much CGI.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
There's a lot of CGI. There's some there's huts speaking English,
which threw me off.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Yeah, buff huts. Buff hut sounds like a like a
protein bar.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Or or like like yeah, like there's pizza hut and
then there's buff hut. If you want to if you
want to look like a pizza got a pizza hut.
You would think that that's where Java and his kin
would go, but no, they went to buff Hut.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I get that there's some some creatures in the movie that, sorry,
I'm not going to harp on this too much, that
probably need to be CGI, because to make a puppet
of them would and pull it off would be a
little difficult. But I feel like CGI for the creatures
is relied on too much. They look CGI to me,
and yeah, frustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
When you compare it to something like the creatures in
Return of the Jedi, for example, where even with the
ones where you're like, well, that's clearly a puppet. Yeah,
it's a puppet, but it also looks real, as in
it's something that's really in that space. Like there wasn't
a person looking at a tennis ball against a blue screen.
It's an actual thing that has physical presence in the space,

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and that makes a difference. Actually, one of the best
jokes in the Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins involves
Daniel Radcliffe's character dealing with tennis balls representing different things
on screen in a Marvel movie he supposedly was directing.
I don't want to ruin it. But when that moment

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played out, I was like, I feel you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Daniel Radcliffe, Yeah, well, I mean like even on things
where you do eat CGI, like we've talked about and
fall Out, how the they're not death eaters.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
They're oh gosh, death clause. Yes, it's funny because I
went up on it too, like you said it, and
I'm like, I've played all the Fallout games and I
can't remember. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, death clause.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Yeah, they did use CGI on them, but they used
it to enhance puppets because it's more valuable to have
something to react against. Yeah, you know, or they believe
so I believe so too. You know, it's my very
that is an opinion, and like, yeah, I just I
prefer personally Star Wars puppets to CGI.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Glad that Grogu is majority puppet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
So question though, CGI aside, did this trailer make you
want to see the movie?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I mean I did enjoy the Mandalorian series. I did.
I less enjoyed it as a as a footnote in
the Book of Boba Fett.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Yeah, we're like like two episodes become Mandalorian episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah, we're part of it is Luke Skywalker and the
other part is my favorite shop on the Citadel.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
But I mean, considering what the other episodes of Book
of Boba Fet were, maybe it was for the best.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Maybe maybe so I do like it. I it's one
of those ones that like, yeah, I'll watch a Mandalorian
and Grogu movie. It's fine. I liked enough of the story,
even in the third season. I feel like it was
one hit, one miss, one hit, one miss for me.
But I don't know that it's worth me going to
the theater for because the CGI looks too CGI for

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me to say, Well, the special effects, and this is
no qualm to the people who are working on the
special effects. They are cool looking monsters, but it's not
one that I am feeling to drive to go to
a theater. Yeah, creatures, aliens, they are some of them.
They aren't monsters. There might be a monster I mean,
like monstrous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
But there's been so much Star Wars content that I
just have not felt the need to see. This falls
into that category. I watched the first two seasons of
The Mandalorian and I enjoyed them. I never watched season three.
The Book of Boba fet really lost me, and I
kind of just got disenchanted. I never saw the final
movie in the Skywalker saga, so I never saw episode nine.

(01:11:27):
And it's just like this, this kind of falls into
just a general bucket of Star Wars content that does
not speak to me to the point where I feel
the need to go see it. Like, I'm sure I
will see it at some point. Maybe I say that,
but I have no plans to watch episode nine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
You haven't watched episode nine. You haven't watched Soka, you
haven't watched the Sith one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
You haven't watched I haven't seen what's the and Or?
I haven't watched it, and I hear, I hear that
and Or is probably the one that I'm most likely
to actually enjoy. I know you didn't really dig that much,
but I know, based on other people who like similar
stuff to what I like, it sounds to me like
I would really get a lot out of that show.
But I've never watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I think you would, but I think you would need
to get past the first three episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah that's often the case, right, But like, I haven't
watched any of the animated stuff. I haven't watched. No,
there's more obi Wan. I never watched the Obi Wan series. Like,
there's just a ton of stuff that I have not seen.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
And the animated anthologies.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yeah, I haven't watched any of the animated stuff. I
tried to watch some of the was it the Clone Wars?
I tried to watch some of one of the animated series,
and it was clearly that it started off being more
geared toward younger kids, and I think it eventually evolved
away from that, but like the first few season, first

(01:12:52):
few episodes at least played really young, and so I
was like, well, this is not for me, and I bounced.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I do like some of the animated stuff. It does evolve.
I tried, I should go back to I want to
go back to this one. I just have forgotten the
one that's basically goonies.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the one that was a bunch
of kids that followed them. Yeah, I know what you're
talking about, because I don't remember what the title is,
but I remember we talked about the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
I'm blanking on it as well, but I you know,
I was specifically like, I would like stuff that's out
of the Skywalker saga that's away from the Skywalker saga. Yeah,
that's still in the Star Wars universe, and that was
a good example of it. And just I didn't watch
past the first episode or second episode. I think it
was just there was too much at that time that
I was like, I'm gonna watch this and I'll come

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back to it, and then I never went back to it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Well, the Mandalorian and Grogu comes out Memorial Day weekend,
so it's a long weekend, which sometimes feels like it's
a studio's attempt to maximize the weekend box office numbers,
like they get an extra day essentially, so it makes
it look like it's a bigger movie than it necessarily is.
Like if you just did in a regular two day weekend,
it wouldn't have the same numbers because studios, we know

(01:14:07):
how you all work, we know you, we know you
fudge all the numbers. You are the worst. But uh, anyway,
that's what's coming out. So if you are excited for
the Mandalorian Grogu, then you don't have much longer to wait.
And I'm happy for you, and I'm sure at some
point I'll see it. I just I don't know. It
just doesn't I'm not. Honestly, I'm not sure I'm gonna

(01:14:31):
see it, but maybe I will. Uh you know, It'll
probably be playing when I'm on the Disney Cruise later
in the year, so maybe i'll see it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
I actually see it. Yeah, well, I know you're burnt
out on Star Wars, but you burnt out on Space Balls.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Oh god, all those movies, man, the one and then
that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
I mean, but it's essentially Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I mean, it's a spoof of Star Wars and movies
of that type, but mainly Star Wars. Space is probably
my favorite mel Brooks movie in his later era as
a filmmaker. Like my favorite mel Brooks movie is Young Frankenstein,
followed by The Producers, followed by Blazing Saddles. Some people

(01:15:18):
I think think Blazing Saddles is his best movie, and
I think that's a valid argument. It is. My personal favorites.
Go Young Frankenstein, the Producers, the Original Producers, not the
musical and oh yeah no, the musical is not my
first of all, that movie is not good. That that
move the musical was great, The movie of the musical
is not great. But the Original Producers I love that.

(01:15:43):
Gene Wilder and Zero Mostelle in it, and it's I
love that film. I think it's better than the movie
musical version. I think the stage musical fantastic. But but yeah,
if you're going by the later period, I think Spaceballs
is better than Robinhood Men in Tights. I think it's

(01:16:03):
just a better movie. Robinhood Men and Tights committed the
terrible sin of explaining a joke after they told the joke,
and I'm like, don't do that. It doesn't do you
any good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I liked it when it first came out. It hasn't
held up for me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Yeah, well, yeah, there were a lot of moments in
Robinhood where I was like, okay, well, first of all,
these are all the same jokes you told in Spaceballs.
Second of all, the second of all, you have a
joke that is a reference to Blazing Saddles, and then
you explain that it's a reference to Blazing Saddles, And
that makes no sense because either you understand the reference

(01:16:42):
and thus you find it funny, or you don't understand
the reference. But explaining that it's a reference doesn't make
it funny. So why did you explain it? And so anyway,
Spaceball's the original space Holes film. I actually really like
quite a bit. I still think it's very amusing. It's
got a lot of juvenile humor in it. Mel Brooks

(01:17:03):
often would include that in his stuff. I have no
problem with that. But like in the movie Spaceballs, there
is a joke about how there will eventually be a
sequel called Spaceball's the Search for More Money. Now we
are getting a sequel to Spaceball's. But we've learned that
is not what the title is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
No, it's the New One.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Yep, we got a video of mel Brooks and Finn
announcing that the title for the new Spaceball's movie is
Spaceball's the New One. That's that's what that. There's no footage,
it's just mel Brooks talking about it. It comes out
April thirteenth, twenty twenty seven, so we've got a whole

(01:17:45):
year to wait.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Yeah, I can wait. I will watch it. I had,
but I didn't watch Spaceballs for the first time until
I think last year.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Goodness, that was a movie I saw in the theater
and I laughed so hard in the theater I was
but you know, I was a big Star Wars fan,
so the jokes were all Landing for me, like all
the references, the visual references to movies like Star Wars
or Alien, they were all hitting hard. I was of

(01:18:19):
the right age, like a like a teenager or a
young teen when it came out, so all the juvenile humor,
like to me was like, oh, comedy doesn't get better
than this. So it was exactly the right movie at
exactly the right time when I was a kid. So
it there are a lot of jokes that I will
still quote, things like you know, what's the matter Colonel

(01:18:42):
Sanders Chicken? Such a dumb joke, but I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Yeah, yeah, the next the next I'm actually gonna mention
these two trailers at the same time. We should break
them out. Yeah, but the next two trailer trailers we
have are for Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat too. Yes,
and we'll talk about each trailer. But it is really
interesting to me because historically I've been more fan like

(01:19:08):
I love the original Mortal Kombat movie far more than
I love the original Street Fighter movie. Rale Juliet aside, Right, Yeah,
but I thought the first Mortal Kombat movie was goofy,
but it was also just so much fun. Yeah, And
now in twenty twenty six. I feel exactly the opposite,
at least based on the trailers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Yeah, like, yeah, street Fighter. Street Fighter looks like it's
a lot. It does look like an action movie, but
it looks like a can't be action movie, right, Like
there's a campy tonality to some of the movie where
it feels like they're having fun. It doesn't feel like,
let's make this as grim and gritty as it possibly

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can be, whereas with Mortal Kombat it's very much this
is grim and gritty. We just have a smart ass
hero as the protagonist, and that's where a lot of
the comedy comes from. Is this, you know, kind of
jaded Hollywood faded Hollywood star Jada and Faded. I'm rusty

(01:20:11):
and dusty, and Johnny Cage is Jada and Faded, and
together we're buddy cops on a mission. Now. Anyway, I agree.
I think I think the tone for Street Fighter is
much more fun oriented and Mortal Kombat's tone is much

(01:20:31):
more Look how grim we are?

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Yeah, yeah, So in the new Street Freighter trailer, which
is a full trailer, so in the teaser, we talked
about how it looked like fun, but they were just
literally like we are doing the video game. Here's all
the dumb video game stuff for you to enjoy in
live action. Right, this new trailer shows us there is
kind of a plot, but it still looks there's a

(01:20:55):
lot of action, there's a little bit of heart, but
it still looks like they are just having fun with it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Yeah, the fact that you have so you there's clearly
it's implied that there's history between Ken and Ryu, and
at some point they've had a falling out for some reason.
We don't know why, but the trailer seems to imply this.
We get to see Ken getting drunk at a karaoke
bar and singing the best song ever, What's Up by

(01:21:22):
four Non Blondes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a really cool cover of it too
in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Yeah, yeah, it was fun, Like I love that song
un ironically, like I don't think I've ever sung it
at karaoke, but I'm gonna and yeah it's a great
song and h And we also get to see lots
of characters in action, like you know, tons of characters
from Street Fighters Saga, so like Boo, Rog, Vega, Guile,

(01:21:49):
chud Lee, Cammi, A Kuma, I, Honda, m Bison, all
sorts of characters show.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
I can't name a single Street Fighter character to you
other than m Bison.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Sorry for me, it was Tuesday, Rall Julia and Rall Julie.
Oh if only Gosh, Rale, we miss you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Also, I couldn't tell that it was Jason Momoa's Blanca
in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Yeah. W it's kind of like the Hulk, right, I
meant to say Blanca, not a Kuma. Oh my gosh. Anyway,
it comes out October.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
I couldn't correct you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
It comes out of October sixteenth. Yeah, this, it looks fun. Meanwhile,
Mortal Kombat too, it was really more of a extended
like we saw the Red Band trailer, which meant that
there was cursing in it, and you know, it follows
Johnny Cage as he is recruited by Rayden and Sonya.

(01:22:51):
I guess it's Sonya to be part of the Mortal
Kombat tournament. So like in Street Fighter it's Ken who's
getting recruited to be part of a in this it's
Johnny Cage getting recruited to be in a tournament, and
we don't understand, we don't know why they're going for
Johnny Cage. Like Johnny Cage himself makes the the observation

(01:23:12):
that he doesn't have like robot arms and he can't
shoot lightning, so why the heck is he being picked
to be part of this tournament? And I was thinking
the same thing. I was like, this is kind of
like Hawkeye being part of the Avengers.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Yeah, and it was sonya.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Okay, good, but yeah it I mean Johnny Kate like, uh,
who is it that Keith Urban? Keith Urban is John.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
As Luke Cage?

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
No, yeah, I was trying to remember who you had,
who you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Had, Carl Carl Urban, Carl.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Urban, Johnny Cage. He looks like he's having.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
He does. But when they first showed him, it's like, oh,
this the second movie is gonna circle around him. I
was they may look really goofy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Yeah, this looks a little less goofy. I mean, he
still has some smart ass lines, but it doesn't look
quite as it definitely doesn't look as light in tone
as Street Fighter does.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah. Yeah, I will still see both of them, but
I am more looking forward to Street Fighter at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Well, here's the thing. Mortal Kombat two comes out first
because it comes out May eighth, and Street Fighter won't
come out until October, so you can watch Mortal Kombat
too and just just reassure yourself that there'll be a
movie more in line with your sensibilities later in the year.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Well, listen, Mortal Kombat's kind of getting sandwiched between two
of them, because before Mortal Kombat comes out, I think,
aren't we getting he Man?

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Yeah? Yeah, he Man comes out before that. I believe
he comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
It comes out, Oh no, it comes out after. So
it'll be Mortal Kombat two than he Man on June fifth,
and then Street Fighter in October, so you can have
a couple of palette washers.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
I saw that there was a final video, a final
trailer for he Man. I didn't include that. I didn't
even watch it, but I didn't include that because we
talked about two different trailers for he Man already, so
I didn't think there was any need to do another one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
I don't think I could handle being more excited for
it than I am. I really hope it's good, because
I'm very excited for it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
It looks like it looks like it's a it's gonna
be kind of a fun summer spectacle movie, which, like
I'm all for if it's entertaining, I'm all for it.
Like I got burnt out on that stuff for a while,
just because there were so many movies that felt that
they were a spectacle, but there was nothing beneath that,
so I would get I would get bored. So I

(01:25:40):
never wanted to see any of the Jurassic World movies
for that reason, right, Like I just I was like,
I don't care about anything that's happening here. And I
still feel that Jurassic Park did dinosaurs better, so I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
I was recently watching a TikTok there was a girl
who was like, I wasn't bored and when Jurassic Park
came out, which first of all hurt my soul, yeah,
but also then like like a full adult saying that now,
like she was born right after, right, and I can
say that about some of the Star Wars movies myself.

(01:26:13):
So but she watched it. She was like, this is
an amazing movie. Like she was crying by the end,
which which is why I was so disappointed. When the
latest Jurassic Park movie came out. They're like, we're going
back to, you know, what we learned from the first movie,
And they didn't because the thing about the first movie was,
again it was practical effects assisted by AI and not AI,

(01:26:36):
not AI by CGI and not CGI first, yeah, which
is what really sold it and really gave you that immersion.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Yeah, that sense of wonder and scale. Yeah yeah, yeah, no,
I completely agree. Like you know, I still feel the
effects in the first Jurassic Park movie hold up better
than the stuff that came out over the last like
five years, which is crazy when you think about the
incredible advancements we've had in technology. Not to mention the

(01:27:04):
fact that, like we said before, extremely talented people worked
on the effects of these movies, and we don't want
to lay the fault on them. I think that it's
the fact that this practical approach just has more of
an impact, at least for us, like maybe for young
maybe for really younger viewers, like obviously not the one

(01:27:25):
you were talking about, but maybe for really younger viewers
it doesn't matter as much. I can't say because I'm old,
so I remember movies before CGI was a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
I just I don't I don't know, because I'm not
a CGI artist. I don't know what the difference is.
Because you don't even need a big budget if you
look at District nine, which have to cast was human
and half to cast was these alien bug creatures. Right.
I never got on Canny Valley with that, and that

(01:27:56):
had a shoestring budget where Hollywood's concerned. Yeah, so I don't.
I don't know where the disconnect is. And you know,
having creating creatures with CGI that look not one hundred
percent photo realistic. It's fine, It's still an art that
I cannot do, you know, so I shouldn't be so judgmental,

(01:28:17):
but for me, it does take it where I and
part of the problems I watch movies critically, right, Like
I watch them for enjoyment, but I also watch them
critically because I'm an actor and I learned from them.
So part of it is my fault.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Well, I watched them critically because I was taught to
use critical thinking when engaged with media. So it doesn't
really matter what the media is, like, I will engage
with it on a critical level, not to look for
fault or anything, but just to like, I'll start to
ask questions like, well, why was that done that way?

(01:28:51):
I think the big disconnect I have with a lot
of these CGI heavy movies doesn't necessarily involve the CGI directly.
It's more like there's this tendency to go huge with
the CGI, either with creatures that are just truly enormous
and they just don't feel real because you're like I

(01:29:12):
get no sense of actual mass with them, or there's
just a ton of stuff all happening at once, like
Marvel is really bad about this, where it's the big
fight at the end of the movie and there's just
so much happening on screen at once, and it just
is meaningless to me, Like I don't even know how
I'm supposed to feel because there's just too much stuff,

(01:29:33):
and I feel like that is a problem I have
with a lot of these movies that rely heavily on CGI,
because it's kind of like what I used to say
about people who would sing all I Want for Christmas
is you and do all the vocal runs where I'm like,
just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Not, being said. The CGI in Moral Combat too and
Street Fighter don't bother me as much because yeah, I'm
already in that fantastical place of like this is ridiculous.
I can. There are some movies that I watch I'm like,
if I put high expectations on it. I'm not going
to enjoy it, so I expect very little of it
and I have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Yeah that's fair. Like I'm not going into it expecting
Citizen Kane, but if if a parrot does suddenly scream
at me in the middle of a movie, I'll be like, Okay,
well that's where I'm supposed to pay attention.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Yeah, and you know, I did enjoy parts of Mortal
Komba one. The whole thing between Scorpion and Some Zero
at the beginning I thought was beautiful, and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
I yeah, that opening was incredible. Like if the whole
movie had been at the same level as that opening,
it probably would be one of my favorite action films,
like of modern.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Era for sure. But I am I am kind of
enjoying this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Maybe what's just coming across my algorithm right now is
this like smaller, smaller movies that are less giant action
blockbuster spectacle with the spectacles spit in here and there.
I really am enjoying that pace because I do like,
you know, the Dead Poet Society, Cider House Rule kind

(01:31:12):
of movies, and I miss them when they're all spectacle.
They sometimes lack the heart, Like you said, you don't
know what's going on, So I'm good to have them
sprinkled throughout the year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Yeah, that's when we're glad to have like Virginia Wolf
and not just an endless list of sci fi action films.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Well, if you are one of those people who are like, man,
now the Stranger Things is gone, what am I supposed
to do? I feel so drained? Well, maybe you need
to join a retirement community. How about you go visit
the Burrows.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
So I am one of those people, because for a while,
it was like, it's hard when to show you like
ends because you've kind of put it into your rhythm
of daily life. Yeah, and then you have to find
a new show to do, and sometimes that takes so
much energy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Also, it may be harder even if you didn't like
the way that the show ended.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't have a problem with it. Yeah,
And I let it be what it was, be what
it was and enjoyed it for what it was. And
I'm like, this is the story they told I'm fine
with it. This though, looks so good. Outside of the
fact that half the people the television series coming up
is called The Burrows, It's about people who moved to

(01:32:30):
a retirement home where there's this weird sci fi stuff happening,
and half the people in it, to me and probably
in real life, should not be in a retirement home yet.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
I mean, they're older, it's just that they're Hollywood older,
so they don't look as old as they really are.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
But I guess that's true. Alfred Woodard is seventy three?

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
What no you got, Alfred Molina, Bill Pullman, Gina Davis,
Dennis O'Hare. People who are fans of American horror story
will know who Dennis O'Hare is. But I think of
Dennis O'Hare as Charles J. Guetteau from Assassins. He was
in Assassins with Neil Patrick Harris and Michael Serves, and

(01:33:17):
he was he was so good in that role. Ed
Begley Junior plays a supporting character in this It's eight episodes.
All eight episodes drop on May twenty first on Netflix.
But you can tell that this is a series that
is produced by the Duffer brothers. They didn't create it,
but they produced it. And you're like, yeah, this is like, sure,

(01:33:40):
we have stranger things with kids, but what if we
did stranger things with senior citizens.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
I mean I love that cast. I love Dennis O'Hara
and Alfred Molina and Alfred, Alfred Woodard and Gina Davis,
I mean, yes, and Bill like I love them all.
Dennis O'Hare is the youngest, he's sixty four. Everybody else
is in their seventies. To me, like, maybe it's it's
not a retirement home more as it is like a

(01:34:08):
retirement community. And I have friends in the film industry
who have moved into like this is an older adults community.
We don't deal with kids, but we all have our
own homes and we just get to hang out with
people in our demographic.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
So, yeah, I thought it looked like it looked like
it had a little bit of Spielberg wistfulness in it,
like a you know, like a bit of wonder. Right,
it's not all just well that's weird or that's creepy.
There was like kind of like the wonder you would
see in something like Close Encounters of the Third Kind

(01:34:41):
or et.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Yeah, I think it looks great. I am very much
excited to watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Yeah, so that comes out, like I said, May twenty first,
on Netflix, We're going to keep an eye on that.
I mean, the cast is phenomenal. There's so many great
people in this, so I'm really excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Chef's Kids. The next thing we've got is vaguely sci
fi alternate history. It's alternate history. Yeah, so it's a
trailer for Star City, which a couple of weeks ago
we talked about season five or six of for All Mankind,
which is alternate history where the space race never ended

(01:35:22):
and Russia beat us to the Moon I believe, And
this is the Soviet Union and this is a spin
off showing what happened from the Soviet Union point of
view during I guess that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
First season right where there is apparently an American spy,
or at least a spy working on behalf of the
Americans who is leaking information about their space program to America.
And so there's a lot of intrigue, you know, with
people paranoid and suspecting each other of spying on the program,

(01:35:57):
as well as the challenges the scientists face as they
try to come up with ways to make it viable
to travel and land on the Moon without you know,
killing everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
This this comes out on Apple TV Plus on May
twenty ninth, looks good.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Yeah, it is interesting to me because we're getting this
like alternative history, historical kind of spy stuff is like
real popular right now, This one Star City Ponies and
then that one with with Sam rockwell that's coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Yeah, and then you also have stuff, you know, you
had like the Man in the High Castle and you
had the Americans, right, you had those also kind of
fall into that alternate history bucket.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Yeah, and so for like the last decade or so,
we've seen kind of a rise in this sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Yeah. Yeah, so that is it is interesting, but it
looks good. It looks tense, but it looks good. And
then I am I am generally genuinely curious to see
what some of the scenes that they shared are. But
I have to finish For All Mankind first.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Yeah, I need to start it, Like I've got Apple
TV Plus, but I don't watch that much stuff on it,
and I feel like I need to. I need to
take more advantage of this subscription that I have, and
I do think that the premise is intriguing. The other
thing about For All Mankind that we talked about, I
believe is that each season takes place several years after

(01:37:35):
the previous season, so it's usually like roughly a decade
that passes between seasons, so that you get to see
how this diversion from our own history, you know, how
it would in theory have progressed from that point. And
I find that really interesting too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yeah, yeah, I also need to start it, but like
it is top of my list of new things because
I'm looking for a new show. It's just hard to
jump into an alternative history sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Yeah, I mean like it's all depends. Yeah, Like it
depends on the tone of the show in my frame
of mind, right, Like there are times where I'm like,
I legit recognize that this is good or at least
that it's kind of my jam, but I have not
worked up the gumption to watch a great example of that,
I watched the first three episodes of the latest season

(01:38:22):
of Invincible, but I haven't watched beyond that, and I
haven't been able to make myself do it. And I
haven't watched any of the current season of The Boys,
even though I said I was going to because I
want the conclusion, I want to wrap up that story
because I watched the other four seasons of this show,
and I didn't enjoy it very much in large parts

(01:38:44):
of it, but I feel like I need to finish it,
but I haven't been able to work up the motivation
to actually watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Yeah, I get that if it's not bringing much joy
to your life, it's really hard to do it. But
I understand wanting, you know. That's why I've watched some
of the things I've watched, just because I'm like, I know,
I'm not going to enjoy this, but I need closures. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Well, and also, like I really like Jack quaide man,
I want to see Jack Quaid do more stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
So he was doing a whole bunch for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
It's true, It's true, like he was in he was
like he was like all my girlfriends. He was in
every movie for a while, like and and Anya Taylor Joy,
like in every single film because it was one of
the three of them, and sometimes multiples of them.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Yes, I enjoy his work. He was just in Companion, so, which.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Is great, that's a great movie. Loved it. Love Companion.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Still doing stuff so also.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
In a great couple of episodes of Red Letter Media's stuff.
And also he did a couple of comedy bits that
were parodies of the Criterion Clau that series where movie
stars go into the Criteria closet and pick out films
that they think, you know, should be on their watch

(01:40:08):
list or whatever. And he was in a parody version
of that where he's in kind of like a hellscape
version of the Criterion Collection. Oh yeah, where everything is
something like Madam Webb or Morebius, you know that kind
of stuff. Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
Yeah, that is that is funny. Okay, we have to
keep going through because we still have one, two, three,
six more things.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Yeah, and we've been going for like an hour and
forty minutes. Yeah, all right, So we got a teaser
for Practical Magic two. I asked friend of the show Shayley,
what she thought about this, and she said she was
kind of sad because if you're not familiar with the
basic premise of Practical Magic. You've got this family, okay,

(01:40:50):
you got this family of of witches essentially, like, all
the women in this family are witches, and earlier in
the history of the family, a curse was laid upon
all the women, all the witches of this family that
any man who falls in love with one of the
women of this family will meet a terrible fate. Will

(01:41:13):
die essentially, and so the first Practical Magic, a man
falls in love with Sandra Bullock's character, She's one of
the women in this family character named Sally Owens. The
man dies as the curse says, and then she ends
up meeting a different man later in the movie, like

(01:41:35):
some time has passed. It's not like the next day
or anything, like, oh well, men are like Kleenex. They're soft,
strong and disposable. But no, she meets another guy. But
then eventually she seemingly breaks the curse. That's like the
big happy moment in the film, like the curse is broken,
and now she can be with this guy that she's

(01:41:57):
falling for, and that's the happy end. Except now in
Practical Magic, too, apparently whoopsie, no curse still totally was there,
because apparently the guy she fell in love with, played
by Aiden Quinn is totally dead. Ski sad, Yeah, which
I don't like. And Shaye didn't like it either. She
was upset about that. She's like, well, this is kind

(01:42:18):
of reht conning the whole like climax of the first film,
but it stars Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kimmen playing sisters.
They have aunts that are played by Diane Weiest and
Stockard Channing. Who are you know, saucy older ladies who
are also witches? This one like, there's another generation of

(01:42:41):
young women played by Joey King and Mazie Williams who
are coming into their own powers. Lee Pace is playing
a character in this who I guess is going to
end up being a potential love interest who whose life
will be in danger. It's set twenty five years after
the first movie. Since you didn't see the first film,

(01:43:05):
did you have any reaction at all to this trailer?
Did anything mean anything to you?

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
No? It might as well have been Focus Focus or
Beaches or Mermaid or Mystic Pizza. I have no idea.
I've not seeing any of those except for Hocus Focus. Yeah. No,
it had no no meaning to me. It was fine whatever,
I will say. Everybody looks so beautiful in it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Yeah. I saw some kind of misogynistic comments about how
the practical magic in question was botox.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
You know what, it's it's their bodies and they can
do what they want.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
I yeah, it's not. It's it's not fair to hold
women up to a certain social norm of beauty and
then criticize them for doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Yeah, yeah, but I think they look great. Honestly, I
think it's I think Nicole Kimmen is beautiful, and she
has always been beautiful, but I think I think it's
the best she's looked.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
I think Nicole Kimmon is beautiful. But gosh, I wish
she'd stop preaching at me about how important movies are.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
I mean, they're important, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
I know every time I go to yeah, that's where
we fall in love, I've been told.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Yeah, oh gosh, look I like these actresses. I know
a lot of people liked Practical Magic. I hope it
really maybe I would if I watched it. I really
I lovely Pace. I hope that. I hope that it
brings joy to people's lives and does well and people
enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
And you know, yeah, I I did not like Practical Magic.
And she knows this because she showed the movie to
me and I sat through it and I had a
visceral reaction where I got real mad about this movie.
So I have no desire to see the sequel, like

(01:44:55):
I think I would just get mad for different reasons
at the sequel, largely like, yes, the first movie you
made got me angry but at least have the conviction
to stick to the ending you wrote and don't retcon it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Yeah, anyway, that's I have.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
If you want to keep talking about practical magic too,
you can.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
No, I'm good. I'm good. Let's move on to talking
about batties.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
Batties and something that looks like a Goodies. So we
got a little sneak peek into Spider Noir, the TV
show with Nicholas Cage Ye, not Johnny.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Or Johnny Cage or Luke Cage.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Nope, Nicholas Cage playing Spider Man potter Man, and they're
showing us some of the villains. So we're getting Sandman,
we're getting Tombstone, we're getting.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Live Wire, live Wire, mega Watt.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Mega Watt, and then I can't remember the first one
because he's basically Kingpin.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Yeah silver Main played by Brendan Gleeson.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Yeah, but listening to them talk about the characters they're playing,
the struggles that those different villains are going through, and
the humanity that we don't know about yet but was
put behind those characters makes me extra excited to watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
Yeah, where they're not just like I'm bad and I
have powers, Like it's they're more complicated than that. Like
it's it's pretty typical like in noir, usually the division
between hero and villain is thin, right, like your heroes
are far from perfect and your villains aren't necessarily mustache

(01:46:37):
twirling bad guys. There's usually like like like it's cliche,
but it's kind of the two sides of the same
coin sort of thing. And yeah, the the way people
were talking about their characters was really interesting. I also
thought it was interesting the choices because like, I'm familiar
with Sanman, I know that character. I am not familiar

(01:47:00):
with Tombstone, and I thought Mega Watt at first was
going to be Electro because he has electric powers. But
then he says, no, it's Dick Layden slash mega Watt.
So I had to look that up because I'm not, like,
I'm a casual Spider Man fan. I don't know all
these characters. And I was like, was this character? Does

(01:47:21):
this character exist within the Marvel cannon? Sure enough, Yes
he does.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
Yeah, so can he's give you in the next Spider
Man movie too?

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Oh okay, wow, Megawatt interesting?

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
No, not Mega Watt sorry, Tombstone.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Oh okay, yeah, Tombstone. I don't know at all. Like
I was like, well, I'm sure that is a character,
but because I thought originally that Mega Watt was Electro,
because Electro is a character I'm familiar with, right, Yeah,
but it's not him.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
But this comes out on MGM Plus on May twenty fifth,
and then it goes to Prime video starting on May
twenty seventh as a Binge release, so you can watch
all of it at once if you want to. I'm
excited about this because it looks it's it's it reminds
me a little bit of the Marvel by Night the
you know, like the one they did as that one shot,

(01:48:14):
Like it's it's something outside the normal Marvel cinematic universe stuff,
and so it's tapping into things that you're familiar with,
but doing it in a way that's new. And I
really find that exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think I think the cast they
have is really good at because they are it seems
like they're leaning into the it's not cheesy, but like
the ham of like the the nineteen forties Radio Hour.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
Yeah, So you can't see any of the motions I'm
doing at you because my camera's off. I keep forgetting
but yeah, like they're leaning into that vibe, but it
also still feels grounded in the trailers. So I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Yeah, yeah, I like that they do seem to be
walking a fine line between you know, they're not going
so over the top that's becoming a self parody, right,
Like you can still take it seriously, but it's also
definitely elevated over the things that you might you know,
expect in your typical superhero story. So I'm really interested

(01:49:18):
in this. I hope that I am hoping that this
turns out to be a series that we can talk
about side by side with something like Wanda Vision, right,
like a standout series.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Yes please. Or were Wolf by Night Yeah, because that
was also good. That might be my second favorite, which
also ran a fine line between camp and genuine.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Yeah it was campy, but it was so good, was
fantastic in that I still want I still want a
one shot short with Man thing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Yeah. Well, I think we're getting a new were Wolf
by Night thing, so.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
We Yeah, we had talked about that as a possibility,
so that's exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
Yeah. The next thing we've got is teaser for Clayface.
So moving from Marvel to DC.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
Or marvel Sony to DC from Spider Man's Rogues Gallery,
which is limited but has some real gems in there,
to Batman's Rogues Gallery, which I think a lot of
people are more familiar with, just because there's been so
many different variations of it. Clayface, maybe fewer people are
as familiar unless they were like big fans of Batman

(01:50:25):
the animated series, or maybe Harley Quinn. Yeah, the Harley
Quinn animated series. Yeah, no, no, I mean the Harley
Quinn version is great. It's voiced by Alan Tudic and
he is hamming it up. And this is the version
of clay Face. It's a similar version in this so
it's not a comedy at all. This is like body

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horror in this version of clay Face. But the premise
is that you have an actor, an upcoming actor. He
gets disfigured by a gangster. He turns to a shady
scientist for help to kind of regain his looks because
I mean, he's so dependent upon them for his living.
And then he gets this kind of shape shifting ability

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slash horrific tendency for his face to melt into a
pile of goo, and the trailer really runs with that,
like it is disturbing in parts.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Yeah, I think it's not Batman bold and beautiful. There
was a recent Batman that came out where like the
penguin was a woman and things like that, where it
was a similar story for Clay Face. So it's it's
not an unheard of origin story for him. I again,
I like, I like the idea of it's very substancy. Again,

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I like, I like the idea, but I did not
like this trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
I thought this trailer was phenomenal and a huge risky
swing for DC because this is not something you're gonna
take your kid too. Like this looks Cronenberg level disturbing.
The part where he wipes his face and then there's
no face after he runs his hand across was like,

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I was like, wow, that's nightmare fuel.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
I was actually fine with that because I'm used to Clayface.
It was like the bandaged up, bleedy face staring into
the camera.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
Oh. For me, it was like going from here's a
face that has features on it. He wipes his hand across,
and now it's just it's just skin. There's no nose,
there's no eyes, it's just skin over a face that
really bothered me.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Oh jeez, it's interesting how different things bothered us in that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Yeah, but I thought that it looks like intriguing. I
will probably see this. I almost feel like it would
be better for me to see this and not think
of it as part of DC, but kind of think
of it as a distinct horror movie. It almost feels
like you could do that anyway. I'm sure there will
be some connective tissue, but I don't know that you

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necessarily need to be interested in d C. You might
just be like a body horror kind of fan. This
might really appeal to you. For hardcore Batman fans, I
think it will appeal as well. But it's gonna be
a lot different from ninety nine percent of the stuff
that DC has put out previously. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
Yeah, I look to look forward to seeing how it is,
so I will have to hold back on watching it
until I read some reviews.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Well, it comes out on October twenty third, so it
sounds like it's the perfect Halloween movie to me.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Yeah. The next thing we have is a trailer for
something called The Dog Stars, which I guess is based
on a book that I haven't read.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Yeah, Peter Heller wrote it. It's a twenty twelve book.
This one's directed by Ridley Scott. It's a post apocalyptic story.
Here's hell, okay, here's the far fetched premise for why
the world is aerial. This just is ridiculous. So a
super flu breaks out and people don't take the appropriate

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steps to protect themselves. Can you believe such a thing
as even possible?

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
I absolutely can't. That's preposterous.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Yeah, I mean, who would imagine a world where a
dangerous disease ran rampant across the world and people did
not take appropriate measures to make sure that they and
their loved ones were safe.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
I mean, I guess we should just be grateful, all
jokes aside. I guess we should be grateful that we
did not fall into the society that is shown in
the trailer for Dog Stars. Yeah, after our pandemic.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Yeah, the flu in the fluid Dogstars was is much
more deadly than COVID. I mean, COVID was deadly, Like
millions of people lost their lives and it should not
have happened. But in the Dog Stars, you take that
and you multiply it by a factor of like ten thousand, right, Like,
it's this massive pandemic deadly flu. Most people are susceptible

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to it, most people die, only a small fraction of
humanity is left, and just like other post apocalyptic stories
in a similar vein things like the Walking Dead or whatever,
the survivors who are left are the biggest threat to
one another. It looks like the main character is a
pilot played by Jacob Elordi also stars Josh Brolin and

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Margaret Qually. Guy Pearce is also in it. Benedict Wong
is in It comes out August twenty eighth. That's about
all I can say about the story, basically, because I
have not read the novel either, I don't know a
lot about it. I know there's a dog in it,
which tells me Ariel's not going to watch this, and that's.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
The thing is like that don't know, Like I don't
always go for post apocalyptic movies. I'm real particular because
the breeding ze for Zachariah in middle school scarred me.
The book was interesting until you got to the end,
and I hated the end. So also had to do

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with the dog and also SA and so like not
not good, not good for me. But even in middle school,
it wasn't good for me before life took its toll
on my brain and my emotions.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
And made us made made people like you and me
far more delicate than we used to be. And we
weren't exactly diamond hard back then either.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Yeah. Yeah, and you know, I could probably use a
little bit of tough and enough, but I I don't.
The story looks interesting. Everybody looks like they're acting their
butt off in a good way. Like I would watch
this movie if there weren't a dog in it. But
I remember when I went to watch Oh Shoot, which
was the one with the vampires and Will Smith, I

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am Legend. Yeah, and uh, my dog Sam had recently
passed away before I watched that. And also my very
first dog was named Bandit and was a German shepherd.
And so to go into I Am Legend and then
watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Dog, Yeah, that moment. That moment is one of the
hardest moments I've ever seen it because, like you, I
love animals, and that moment is hard to watch. It
was meant to be like that's it was intentionally hard
to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
It was intentionally hard to watch. I've always struggled with
animal stuff, but I do like used to like watch
watching like James Harriet, you know, who is a vet
and occasionally he couldn't save an animal reading those books,
But because of the connective tissue it had to personal
experiences in my life, it was unbearable. I was with
a bunch of my husband's co workers and I burst
out in tears in the theater.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
I mean I definitely I definitely felt weepy in that
scene as well.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
Yeah, and like, even thinking about it now, tears are
coming to my eyes. Like I guess that's some good
storytelling that it's so poignant that years later it's it's
so effective to touch my emotions.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
But it's not something Yeah, it's not something that you're
seeking out as an experience though, Like it's not something
really well. I sure do want to be shaken to
my core, like like every now and then, I do
want to watch something where I'm like, wow, that was
that really made me, you know, affected me emotionally. That
sometimes could be very rewarding, But it's not something I

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seek out very frequently.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
Yeah, And it's it's especially hard animals. I think I've
talked about this far. It's hard for me because so
many times if you're in the wild, like watching a
wild documentary, like that's fine. I understand that there is
a circle of life that happens that is important for
the survival of many creatures in that circle of life, right,

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But even in nature documentaries where they're like I watched
one when my folks are here about beavers, and they
personified the beavers right and talked about them like there
are people in a family, and that's cool, and it
was a lovely thing. But then like watching them be
in danger, all of a sudden, I'm like, ah, this
is not the circle of life anymore. These are creatures
that you've now made me specifically care for. And so

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many times it's animals that rely on us for their
safety and well being and their food, cats, dogs, things
like that. Yeah, and even are loyal to us because
we provide that service for them and that love for them.
And so to watch one those animals suffer and not
people provided that thing they're relying on. In two, watch

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a human suffer because they were unable to provide that
thing that their pet was relying on them for. It's yeah,
it's too much. It's too much.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Totally. I get it. I get it, Like I don't
like a lot of entertainment that uses animal in that way, Like,
you can do it in a way where it's true
to the story, and I think it serves the story.
I'm still not gonna like it, but at least I
respect it. The ones I don't respect are where it

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feels like it was a calculated decision in an effort
to elicit a particular emotional reaction from your audience. Right,
same thing for like the way a lot of women
are treated in horror and thriller and in action movies,
where well, we need to show that the bad guy's
really bad, so let's show him hurting a woman in

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some way that's the signal to the audience of this
is a bad person. I'm like, you're treating the woman
like a prop that's not good, and you're so blatantly
trying to manipulate me emotionally that I've I'm detaching emotionally
from the movie and I'm just mad at you. Now.

Speaker 1 (02:00:54):
Yeah, yeah, So I will look up as the dog
die and the dog stars and based kind of my.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
I mean legitiision on that totally. Yeah, I get you.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
Yeah, because the story does look interesting and it looks
well acted and it looks intriguing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
But yeah, the trailer's great. So if you haven't seen
the trailer for the Dog Stars, definitely check it out.
Like it's like part of me was a little it
was hard to get me engaged because I've seen We've
seen so much post apocalyptic storytelling over the last decade
and a half that it was hard for me to
kind of engage with it. But I think it is
very well made.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
Yeah. Uh. And next, I think these next two trailers,
at least Fox Maco, we're going to talk about Vox
macht In. Next. We got the trailer for the new season,
which comes out in a couple of weeks. That's good,
looks the same. One of my friends said, they're very shouty.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
Yes, they're very shouty, and and they own up to
the fact that they cause a lot of uh damage.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
Yeah, yeah, but it looks fun. I am. I'm excited
for it. I do. While I enjoyed the actual play
of Mighty nine better, currently I'm enjoying Vox Knocktta Better
as a TV cartoon.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
Yeah, this comes out June third. I watched the trailer.
Sometimes I don't watch the trailers for these things simply
because I hadn't, you know, engaged with the previous seasons.

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
I did boil anything for you.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
Well, it couldn't because I don't know anybody, and I
don't know who they are or what they're doing. So
I watched the trailer and I was like, well, it
looks like I mean, it kind of looks like what
you would expect in the Dungeons and Dragons campaign, which
is that as you get further along in the campaign,
characters get much more powerful, which means that the challenges

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they face have to be much more intense in order
for it to be a challenge, right, Like, if you
have a level twenty character, going up against an orc
is nothing, right, Like, there's no point, Like you just
obliterate them and there's just a pile of ash where
the orc will us. But so so obviously everything has

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to get bigger and more intense. Uh so really, I
just watched it going all right, yeah, yeah, it's it's
like it's like the first season, but but but bigger
and more of it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
I do think you would enjoy it if you.

Speaker 2 (02:03:18):
Yeah, I watched the first cartoon. Ok, yeah, I watched
the first episode and it didn't grab me. But I
remember you saying like, yeah, you kind of kind of
get through that first one.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
So yeah, some people really liked the first episode because
it felt like it gave the tone of the show.
But for me, like it was, it felt so so
different to me.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Then, Yeah, I felt like I was dropped in a
group and I didn't know who anyone was yet, and
I didn't. I didn't I hadn't warmed up to anyone, right,
so I didn't like anybody yet, and no one is
particularly likable in that first episode. So it's hard for
me to get invested because I'm like, well, you had

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one shot to make me like people, And if I
already knew who everyone was, I would already like them,
right like, because I if I was already a fan
of the real play, then I would be invested and
I would be like, oh, this is cool. I know
who these characters are. But I don't know who these
characters are, so I watch it, I'm just like, Wow,
a bunch of jerk faces. I don't want to watch

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the show about a bunch of jerk faces. I don't
care what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (02:04:24):
So the big, dumb, tall jerkface is my favorite. That
was the cartoon character I mentioned at the beginning, Yeah,
I like they are a rogues gallery for sure, but yeah,
gotta give it three episodes.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
Okay, fair enough. And then finally, the movie that inspired
the question of the week when it just took us
two hours and five minutes to get there, is Coyote
Versus Acme. This was the movie that infamously Warner Brothers
Discovery shelved and rode off for tax purposes after it

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was finished essentially like almost ready to the point of
being able to be theatrically released, and for the next
couple of years we were convinced we were never going
to see it because in order for them to show
it means that they would have to make up the
difference on the tax cut that they took by writing
it off. So we're like, well, that's never going to happen.

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But it happened, and now we're going to get Coyote
Versus Acme, And the trailer came out and what did you?
First of all, can you kind of give an overview
of what this movie's about.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
Yeah, it's about coyote who gets always gets injured, chasing
after the road runner yep, going to court for them
to determine whether it is the Coyotes fault for his
injuries or whether it is Acme's faulty products. Yes, at
fault for his injuries. The two lawyers are Will Forte

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and John Cena.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
Yeah. Will Forte is the Coyotes lawyer and John Cena
represents ACME.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
Yeah. And here's the thing, here's my Apparently the trailer
got great reviews and previews. Here's the thing. For me,
never been a big cut Coyote or Roadrunner fan, even
though I did like the original Space Jam, and I
did like it was big o commercial. I did like
the original Space Jam, and I really loved Roger Rabbit.

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You know those things where you've got the people and
the cartoons interacting fairly similar, seamlessly with each other. I
think it's a great it's it's a challenge, and it's
really cool art form.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
I couldn't care less about this trailer. I'm glad that
it's being released because I hate that it got shelved
for tax purposes. But it did not grab me.

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
I enjoyed the trailer. I don't feel the need to
go see the movie when it comes Like, I could
watch this on my TV and not feel like I
missed any thing, but I did like the trailer. I
will say like I wouldn't say it was the biggest
road Runner and Coyote fan, But during the Chuck Jones
era of Warner Brothers cartoons, there were a few of

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those where I would find them legitimately funny, or at
least a few gags in an episode funny, like oh,
that's that's clever, Especially tricks that you could use in
the animation art form that would not work anywhere else.
Those are the sort of things that I found funny.
But now here's the problem is that those tricks were established,

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you know, more than half a century ago at this point,
so they are well known at the now, Like it's
not new and surprising because we we've seen, you know,
they're they're ingrained. But I still found it the concept amusing.
I think Will Forte as like an ambulance chasing lawyer

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who's trying to bring trying to Aaron brocka which against
Acme is kind of interesting. John Cena as an opposing
attorney is lots of fun. I love seeing John Cena
being a dufis so and there's lots of there's tons
of cameos obviously. Lots of Warner Brothers cartoons characters show
up in this Porky Pig, Tweety, Daffy, fog Horn, leghorn bugs,

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they all. They all appear at at least some point
in this movie Roadrunner obviously. So I'll probably watch this.
I don't know if i'll see it in the theater
or not. Maybe I will. But I think I liked it.
I definitely liked it more than you did. I don't
know that I would call it a slam dunk, but
like you, I'm also glad that it's getting a release

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which I have never seen.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
Yeah, I mean I didn't hate it. It just it
didn't appeal to me. I think I wanted the trailer
to be funnier. Maybe it will be funnier.

Speaker 2 (02:08:52):
Honestly, it would be like if a movie came out
right now that was a Tom and Jerry movie, I'd
be like, I don't know, it's not going to do
anything for me. I never like Tom and Jerry, so
even if it's really well made, like I have almost
a negative connotation with Tom and Jerry because I never
found it entertaining even as a kid. So you know,

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if that's the way you are. Then I don't think
that that you know that this this trailer is going
to change your mind, but I'm hopeful that it will
land well with the right audience. I did think that
the animation didn't look quite as good as I was
hoping it would.

Speaker 1 (02:09:32):
Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't Roger Rabbit for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:09:35):
Yeah, which is kind of a shame. Like I was
watching it, I was like, huh this, you know, I
was kind of hoping the animation would. I'm glad that
they're sticking to the in large part for most of
the characters, not Foghorn Leghorn for some reason, but for
most of the characters, they're sticking pretty close to the
character models from the classic Warner Brothers cartoons. But the

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actual like like sell to sell motion of the animation
didn't look as smooth as I was hoping.

Speaker 1 (02:10:06):
Yeah. Now I need to look at fog corn Lahrn
because I don't remember what he looked like in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (02:10:12):
Yeah. Well, maybe it was the angle or whatever, because
it was shot low and up toward fog Horn, but
he just didn't look right to me.

Speaker 1 (02:10:21):
He looks the same to me. H.

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
Maybe it's just that there was a shot toward the
end where it's like because it like that does not
look like Foghorn Leghorn. But I'm curious about this one.
I'm glad it's coming out. Finally comes out August twenty eighth.
So does this mean that maybe one day we'll actually
see the otherwise lost to time Batgirl movie. Probably not,

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but who knows?

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
I hope so. And I bet it was fog Horn
lake horns jacket because he doesn't normally wear a jacket.

Speaker 2 (02:10:53):
That's true. He usually is going nudy.

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
I mean, I don't know. Maybe handsusis feather suit. I
don't remember, but that is a question for another time.
Because we've reached the end of our lineup, in the
end of our very long show. You know, when we
miss one week, it's doubly long, and when we miss
two weeks, it's a little more than that. So thank
you for sticking through and listening and joining us for
all the geekery. If you've got things to talk about

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on the things that we talked about, please reach out
to us. Jonathan, how can they do that?

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
They can listen to you because this has been a
long episode. And then like I need to run across
the Street before another thirty minutes goes by, if I'm
going to get the T shirt I need to get
for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
So okay, cool, So we'll wrap it up real quick. Yeah.
Just reach out to us via social media on Facebook, Instagram,
and threads. We are Larger Drug Colighter that is also
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notes at www dot Larger Drug Lighter dot com. I
need to update it, but I will do that this week.
You can also send us a long email at Largener
John pot at gmail dot com. Thank you for listening.

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We truly do enjoy you being a part of our
geek family. And until next time, I have been Ariel
maybe cast.

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
And I have been Jonathan Strickland. Because coyote doesn't say anything,
love it. The Large Nordron Collider was created by Ariel
Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted, published again, cursed

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at by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin McLeod of ingcomptech
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