LNC Shines a Lantern on Low Brow Comedy

First, apologies for the late publication! It was a hectic weekend of travel for your humble editor and publisher. More importantly, Ariel and Jonathan talk about the return of low brow Hollywood comedies, the upcoming Lanterns TV series, and a pretty gross puppet.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nor John Collider Podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always
is the superheroist Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Gosh, it disturbs me to see you, guest On.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I mean it would disturb anyone to see somebody eat
twelve dozen eggs. Yeah, three dozen eggs. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, I don't remember exactly how many, doesn't but it's
way too many. That guy's cholesterol is off the charts.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's probably by choice, right, like
off the.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Charts shots like who takes shots like Gaston has blood
clots like gust On.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Did you just come up with that?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, brilliant, But I was. I was earlier today as
I was attending to my ablutions, I was listening to
a Broadway you know, internet station, and the opening song
of Beating and the Beast came on. Also makes me

(01:17):
think of the joke, the comic strip joke of you
know bell singing, there goes the baker with his tray,
like always that same old bread and roles to sell
like that little bit, and then the baker has just
got a tear in his sign and says a very
rude thing. Yeah, but that's now what I shout out
in the shower as I'm listening to the It's just me,

(01:38):
No one else is gonna hear.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah. No, I've seen that before, where it's like Bell's
song is actually incredibly like demeaning to the rest of
the town.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, it's very patronizing. Yeah, which I mean, you know, yes,
we can always we can always take that kind of
cynical eye to media, and I often do. But I
also understand, like that wasn't the intent. Understanding intent is
really important. I actually get into a big argument with

(02:10):
my partner about this with something that I'll mention in
just a second, because that brings me actually to this
question of the week, which I don't know if you
even had a chance to see, but it.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Was I did.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Do you have a favorite mad character in fiction? Keeping
in mind that fiction specifically, I was specifically thinking movies
and TV, but really fiction in general tends to portray
mental illness, especially the older you go in a very
like unthoughtful way. But you can still have a favorite

(02:44):
character I would argue.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
So I have watched many movies where I've been like,
oh man, they handled that really well and it was thoughtful,
and they didn't They didn't vilifying mental illness or struggles
at all. Thunderbolts is a great example of that. I
thought the movie did a very good job of describing it.

(03:06):
But that's not a character. My favorite mad character is
actually a person from history that's just been portray I
think I talked about this the other week. Yeah. Yeah,
both in the Madness of King George with Helen Mirren
and then again in Queen Charlotte. I think both times
portrayed a really moving a story of what it was

(03:31):
like to interact with and live with and support King
George the Third through his mental illness.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, much a much more thoughtful approach than the way
Blackadder did it, where they just had him say Penguin
at the end of sentences and such. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean that that can be cute and funny too,
But now I haven't watched The Madness of King George
in a while. I do think that Queen Charlotte probably
handles it in a more loving way, but didn't record.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah. My recollection is the madness of King George was
pretty respectful, like, I don't remember it being exploitative. My
answer is Willie Wonka, who I think comes across as
a bit mad. He's certainly eccentric. So it all depends
upon what you're defining as madness. And that actually brings

(04:24):
me back round to the thing my wife and I
have a disagreement on, which is she maintains that Grandpa
Joe is the greatest villain in cinematic history because he's
laying and he's not doing anything to help the family.
He's laying in bed. He encourages Charlie to, you know,
dream big, even though the likelihood of Charlie actually winning

(04:48):
is so low, and then as soon as Charlie wins,
he springs out of bed and starts dancing around, and
he's like, I can't I get to go to the factory.
And I understand all those points, And I thought, you know,
if you're taking this for like it's face value and
you're ignoring the fairy tale element, absolutely, Grandpa Joe comes
across as the worst, but it's a fairy tale. It's

(05:10):
it's the story of like Grandpa Joe up to that
point would not have been able to get out of bed.
It's the magic of getting the chance of winning the
ticket that gives Joe the ability to get out of bed.
And so I don't I don't see Grandpa Joe as
a villain. But mike' Stakloska of Red Letter Media and

(05:31):
my wife both maintain he is a monster.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I mean, but that that goes back to mental illness
a bit, because depression can do a hell of a
lot on your energy levels and physical wellness.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I just don't think Rode Doll was thinking of it
that way. I think I think it was much more simplified.
I think it literally was you have these four grandparents
who are, you know, very old and frail and incapable
of getting out of bed, and then this miraculous thing happens.
And the important thing is it is miraculous, and that's

(06:07):
what allows grandpajo. None of that matters about the madness part.
Willie Wank is a crazy person and I love him,
specifically in the Gene Wilder version. I almost put, by
the way Young Frankenstein, Doctor Frankenstein another Gene Wilder part,
because Gene Wilder just plays crazy so well. He can

(06:28):
he can play like unhinged better than just about anybody.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, there's still there's still a through line of like
genuineness in humanity in there. That's really that's really impressive.
You know, I have never thought of Grandpa Joe as
a villain. I guess I could see it, but I
will fight tooth and nail that. Benny is a good
upstanding guy in Rent.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh yeah, well apart from what he does with Mimi
if you can ignore the Memi part, but like starting
off before the whole me thing. Yeah, I'm like, no,
I'm on teen penny, Like, hey, your pay your gosh
darn Rent y'all, especially those of you who have loving
parents and you're just ignoring them. You are the worst.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like I get I get it. Gig economy is real hard.
But I've I've and I've struggled to pay my bills,
but I've paid my bills.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I think I think Rent is one of those shows
where the older you get, the more angry you you
get with with the main characters. Uh, you know, maybe
like and I never got into it when it first
came out, Like I was not a Rent kid, Like
I was probably teens when it came out. I'm guessing teenager,

(07:46):
maybe getting close to twenty. Uh, but I just never
like I was. That wasn't my era. I was. I
was the previous eras like Lames and Phantom and Miss Sigone,
which I also recognize as being incredibly problematic, and other
shows of that era. I have never watched it, But

(08:08):
if I go back and listen to the music, now,
I'm like, yowza, I see, like there's a part. There's
a part where the the white male American protagonist is
singing to the young Asian female protagonist about on the
other side of the earth, there's a place where life
still has worth. And I'm like, oh, that's so white Savior.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh my gosh. Yeah it's not great.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, no, it's rough. Anyway, we have rambled well beyond
the parameters of the question. Let us move on to
talk about what we've watched since last week. It's only
a couple of things for me. Yes, well, I finished
a Night of the Seven Kingdoms. I finally watched the
final episode. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. Yeah, I

(08:57):
think I liked it more than I I don't think
it's a perfect series. I think it's it's definitely much
more palatable to me than Game of Thrones was. But
then I say that as someone who read the books
but only watched the very first episode of Game of Thrones.
I've never watched beyond the first episode because the books

(09:19):
got to a point where I was questioning why I
was reading them, and then the series, once it got
past where the books were, made me convince that it
just wasn't for me. But I liked it more than
I didn't, and then I watched only I shouldn't even
put this on here because I haven't watched a full
episode yet. I've only watched the very beginning of the
first episode of The Verbs, and that much no.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
No.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I liked it, but I had work to do, like
I couldn't. I started it up during my lunch break,
but I got interrupted in my lunch break, and by
the time I could have started it up again, it
was tough for me to not have lunch break, so
I haven't been able to watch more of it. I
liked the beginning of it. I mean, Keithy Palmer is
so charismatic. I like her a lot. I can see

(10:03):
why Sean Evans had such a big crush on her,
for sure, For sure.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I have not watched much of anything. I have mainly Shrinking.
Season three of Shrinking, I'm in the middle of oh
for real this time, Yeah, for real real instead of
just accidentally starting Yeah. And it's fun because there are
some fun cameos in it, Like the theme of this

(10:32):
week for me has been ooh, drop Out comedian cameo.
So Lisa Gilroy was a cameo in Shrinking in season three.
She did a great job. She's been in a lot
of stuff. She was also in Twisted Metal. She's also
in We talked about this.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
It's so funny because you mentioned she was in Twisted
Metal and I'm like, who the heck did she play?
And I looked it up. I was like, oh my god,
I never recognized her. I watched that full season.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, she's heedious and list World is a very pretty person,
so she is recognizable. In season three of Shrinking, I
caught up on The Pit. I might have mentioned this
last week because I don't remember when I watched the episode,
but Raphael Chestang, also from Dropout, was a cameo on

(11:17):
not this week's episode of The Pit, because I haven't
watched that yet, but last week's episode of the Pit.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Did you watch the Rookie with all the other dropout cameos?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I didn't because I don't currently have Hulu.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I also haven't watched it.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
You know, I I will at some point. I was
kind of hoping it would pop up on drop out TV,
but no, let's see what else?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
What else?

Speaker 1 (11:44):
What else? What else? What else?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I watched Scream four.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Because that last week though, I.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Think I mentioned to you this weekend.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh you did, you did? Yes, you mentioned it directly
to me because I was like, I still don't know
if I've seen it or not. I read the synopsis
and I'm still not sure if I've actually watched that
movie or not.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
So uh. My my husband watched it when it came out,
but it's been so long he barely remembered anything. Once
we started watching, he remembered, you know, another another movie
with a lot of fun cameos. It was fine. It
honestly was like there was definitely I felt like the
Gore int was a little bit more graphic, but it

(12:25):
wasn't much. It was mainly blood and jump scares and
stuff like that, which was better than I was anticipating, because,
you know, the more modern day we get the worst
horror movies kind of.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't know that that first screen movie, the Garage
Door death still bothers me.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
There there was something similar in four, Like so I
actually looked up the worst deaths in Scream four before
watching it. Yeah, and I was like, I can tell
this is coming. Let me look away and just listen
to the spit. La la la, la, la la la.
The garage Door was not as bad in this. I
will say head and head and Tara, I felt, was

(13:01):
like the best part of the movie. She did a
phenomenal job in her character of Kirby. We're doing it
because my husband and I I he introduced me to
Scream several years back. I had never watched it because,
you know, went in a horror girly and it took
me two tries. The first try we couldn't get through.
Drew Barrymore, I was like, nope, I'm out. On the

(13:22):
second try, I made it through, and then we're like,
each Halloween, we're gonna watch a Scream movie. But then
we kind of went off into like hocus Pocus and
a couple other things, and then like this past year,
we weren't able to watch it. Scary movie, and then
but with Scream seven coming out and wanting to avoid
too many spoilers on that, we're like, well, let's bump
through so we can watch it sooner rather than later,

(13:45):
because it does feel like a culmination of everything that's
come before.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Right, Yeah, I mean now Campbell being back obviously that
like is which is part of it.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Which a lot of it seems like a good number
of people are not happy with, Like it's it's the
movies getting some pretty divisive reviews.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I've managed to not follow that, so I wasn't even
aware that it was getting like mixed reviews or anything.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
But I think just critically, they're like they worked so
hard to be able to move forward without Nev Campbell
and now she's back.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Like well, I mean I can't blame that on Nev though,
Like yeah, she was like she was like they wanted
me back, but they weren't gonna pay me the right
amount of money, and like you gotta know your worth.
I mean, yeah, you know, like we only have so
much time, and so you have to start prioritizing. Like
there was a time where I had to do that,

(14:41):
where I had so many projects coming in that I
would have to turn stuff down and be like, either
I need to really believe in it, or you need
to pay me a whole lot of money for me
to be able to say yes to this. And so
I started turning down some stuff, some of which was,
I mean nothing, nothing even remotely close to Hollywood money. Okay,

(15:01):
let's just dismiss that, but you know, significant money for me,
so like, I totally get it. Like there were times
where I'm just like, yeah, it's just not enough for
me to do what you're asking me to do.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah. I mean, I've had to turn down non paying
gigs for things that I've wanted to do, or gigs
that like, I'm just happy to perform and entertain people,
but sometimes it takes up so much time that it
ruins the career side of things.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, or you're just miserable because like, yeah, you're I mean,
I think back to when I was in, I was cast,
I was not in because I dropped out. It's one
of the only times I've ever dropped out of a project.
I was cast in repertory performances of Hamlet and Rosencrants
and Gillenstern Are Dead, two of my favorite plays of
all time. But I was cast along with another gentleman

(15:54):
to each play the English Ambassador, a part that traditionally
is played by a single person and only has like
three lines, and they divided it up so that we
each had half, so I had one and a half lines,
and I had to go to so many rehearsals and
I was like, this is not worth my time. I
am and if I drop out, they're fine, They're back

(16:15):
to a single English Ambassador, which is the number that
it's supposed to be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I mean the time that my role got split, I
understood it, which was when I was in Jesus Christ
Superstar because I was Simon the zell It.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, it was. It was weird having two Simons running around.
It was yeah, that's what they did. Yeah. Did you
go to that? Yeah, okay, I was there. I remember.
I remember thinking that the singing was great and the
staging needed work. Yeah, only because it was like everyone's
on stage left, now everyone's on stage right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah. But our Judas was an amazing singer. I really
did like what that theater did though, was they cast
understudies and if you are an understudy, get a day
to perform. And it also kept it fresh for the
rest of the actors, because like, then you're genuinely reacting
to somebody, You're not just going I mean, you should
do that anyhow, but it's a really easy trap to

(17:11):
just to be like okay, and now I'm sad and
now I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
You know, it's like I saw, We're going so many tangents.
But I saw this video. It was very It was
really entertaining where they took the script for a play.
It was infamous play that closed the same day it
opened on Broadway. It was a comedy murder mystery. And

(17:35):
the way they did it was they got a bunch
of improvisers to perform the play, but each improviser was
given sides that only had their lines in it, so
it's like a read through. They only had their own
lines and the cute so whatever line queued them, they
had that, and then they had their line, so there
was no way for them to know what was going
on in the show until it actually happens. Because they

(17:58):
wanted the actors to have the same experience that the
audience did of just like what the heck is going on?
And I thought, what a brilliant idea. Uh, it would
have been incredibly challenging as an actor. And meanwhile, they
had one person who was the director, who had read
the whole thing, who was there to try and keep
the show on track or redirect if things started to

(18:19):
go off the rails. So it was a cute idea.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I'm sad it didn't run. I yeah, so, but like.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Well, this was this was this was a theater that
was doing a read through twenty years after the fact
that the show had opened and closed on Broadway. Oh okay,
so it's just it's just an It's one of the
infamous Broadway flops. I think it's Moose Murders is what
it's called. It's like it's sat in a Canadian lodge.
But yeah, so, like they were just like it's kind
of like if someone were to do a stage production

(18:49):
of Manos Hands of Fate today, it's like that, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I mean, like, so when I see live theater, it
does make me want to go do live theater, but
it's just such a time commitment I don't have right now.
So thankfully, last time I saw a live theater, when
I went down to Naples to see my friend in
bo jest I came back and I had just missed
auditions for Noises Off and Twelfth Night, which are two
shows that I love, but also like, do I need

(19:15):
to audition for that?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, this is narrow casting, but who's doing Noises Off?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well? I think it's faucal.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
That because I was just curious because I auditioned for
that once and got called back, and I was so
excited because I love that play, and I thought I've
got a decent chance of getting this. And then I
came in and three other guys were also bald with
Goate's and I was like, no, I got no chance.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Apparently I missed Noises Off auditions by a little bit more.
It is playing at Fauxcaling, coming through March eighth, so
this is last we can see.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's a heck of a drive too, you would have, yeah,
that would have been a big commitment. Well enough narrow casting.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I also watched Downton Abbey but and drop out like
as I was working out. But mainly I've been watching
my husband play Expedition thirty three, and I've been playing
Minecraft with my folks.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Got it cool? All right? Now that we're twenty minutes in,
let us move on to our thirty seconds or less
I begin, and here we go. Bruce Campbell recently announced
that he has been diagnosed with a treatable but not
curable cancer, and that this will impact his ability to
attend fan conventions and such as he prepares for the

(20:30):
debut of his film Ernie and Emma this coming fall.
He said he wanted to get out in front of
any rumors and he isn't asking for support or sympathy,
but we still wish him the absolute best because you know,
he's a groovy guy.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
So apparently he is a groovy guy. And in more
groovy news, apparently Seth MacFarland has written season four of
The Orville. What I call Seth MacFarland groovy, not necessarily,
but I do enjoy The Orville a great deal. The
big question is if when they will have time to
produce it, because apparently Seth MacFarlane is a very busy man.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
If Nine of the Seven Kingdoms and House of the
Dragon and the upcoming stage play aren't enough Game of
Thrones for you, how about a film. Warner Brothers has
a script from and or writer Bo Willeman, and it
may be about Eggon the first the guy who established
the Targerian dynasty in Martin's Fantasy World. Will Paramount's acquisition
mean winter is coming for the project.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Another project is coming, which is the Legend of Vox
machin as season four. We have a release date. It
is June third, which is much earlier than I thought.
I honestly, while I enjoy Mighty nine more overall, I've
been enjoying the Legend of Vox Macina as a cartoon
better and I am very excited for it.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Mike Flanagan's take on The Exorcist has a cast packed
with Flanagan regulars. We learned this week that Kate Siegel,
Raoul Coley, Matt Beadle, Samanthasloyan Hamish Link Ladder, Gil Bellows,
Carla Gugino, and Moore are on it. They also joined
the previously announced Scarlett Johansson, John Legozamo, Fanne Lane, and

(22:12):
Laurence Fishburn, among others. That is a lot of people,
and it makes me wonder what the heck the story
is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
For sure, Lee Isaac Chung has exited The Ocean's eleven
prequel that I forgot was even happening. It is being
developed with Margo Roby and Bert Bradley Robbie and Bradley
Cooper and Lucky Chap, which is Margaret Roby's production banner. However,

(22:40):
they had creative differences. Don't know what they are, but
the joint statement between Warner Brothers and Lucky Chap was
very nice about Lee Isaac as a filmmaker and they
hope to work with him in the future.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
A few years ago, filmmaker Max Landis found himself persona
non grata during the Me Too movement when several women
stepped forward alleging he was abusive. But now Paramount has
tapped Landis to write a screenplay for a Gi Joe feature.
The studio has separately asked Danny McBride to write a
different screenplay for Gi Joe. Anyway, yay for Paramount for

(23:14):
giving chances to abusive men. That was sarcasm.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
David Jeffy, who is the creator of God of War,
had some thoughts on Amazon MGM Studios, Sony Picture Television
PlayStation Production's first image from the God of War TV series,
and that is that it The image looks dom Why
would they choose that as a first image? It is

(23:42):
a very funny video that I've only barely been able
to watch, But he does think that the show itself
is going to be phenomenal. They just picked a really
bad first image.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, as Jester might say, you pooping? What's going on
with the cast of the long gone show Firefly? In
a series of Instagram reels, Nathan Fillion aka Captain Mal
visits his former Firefly co stars as they vaguely say
things like is it time? Or it's happening, and then
Nathan slowly nods at them. An announcement is coming on

(24:16):
March fifteen. Speculation online abounds, while Phillian says this isn't
just a promo for an upcoming convention appearance, So will
we get the sky back?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Who can tell? Highlander is getting a graphic novel from
Titan Comments Comics, Whoo, that's coming out November seventeenth, based
on the original screenplay, which is Gregory Widen's script. It's
They're also coming out with a kid's comic book, My
Father's Dragon. They are not related, but when you're in

(24:49):
a hurry you're reading, comprehension goes out the window and
then you're like, what does were there dragons in Highlander?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I don't remember yeah, I believe. Just adding to that,
the the original screenplay for Highlander is significantly different from
what ended up on screen, So chances are this graphic
novel is going to have a more fleshed out journey
of Connor McLeod throughout the centuries, which I think is

(25:15):
kind of cool. Well, here's a quick list of some
properties that will take their final for now Boo in
twenty twenty six or shortly thereafter. Avatar, The Last Airbender,
the live action series, animated series be Stars, Smiling Friends,
Star Trek's Strange New Worlds, Terminator Zero, The Walking Dead,

(25:35):
Daryl Dixon, The Witcher, and Yellowjackets, and then in twenty
twenty seven, the Legend of Voxmachina after season five and Silo.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Some of those we knew about. We knew Legends of
Vox Machina were going to.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Be five seasons. Yeah. Like I said, a lot of
these are about the stories concluding, not necessarily about a
show getting canceled.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah. Yeah. Ben Aflack is in the game with his
firm Interpositive, which is teaming up with Netflix. He says
that they're using it as a tool to help artists
and creatives, not to replace them. However, he says that
his tools do not rely on text video prompts, but

(26:16):
instead of storehouse of visual data created by human actors
on a secure soundstage and used to train the company's
proprietary models, which makes it feel like it's still going
to replace actors and I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Not for it. Yeah, well, you know he's got his
so anyway, Microsoft surprised me at least a little bit
by teasing a new console is in the works. It's
code named Project Helix, and apparently it will allow folks
to play both console games and PC games on the
same device. We may get more information on March ninth,

(26:49):
when the Game Developers Conference begins. I'm surprised because I
thought Microsoft would drop hardware and focus on cloud based
platforms and storefronts.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's what I thought too. This year is the sixtieth
anniversary of Star Trek, according to Nervous dot com, and
you know history, the calendar, the calendar. But it looks
like maybe Star Trek is slowing down and it's taking
a break now that it's hit this milestone. Starfleet Academy

(27:20):
and Strange New Worlds have just wrapped production, so there's
nothing currently being worked.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
On Yeah, that doesn't mean that something won't come around.
But also remember Paramount's getting ready to acquire Warner Brothers,
and so that's there's a big question mark over all
the Paramount and Warner Brothers stuff right now. Right we
just don't know how it's going to affect. We do
know that Paramount has said that they are making a

(27:48):
commitment to produce thirty movies a year, and if they're
going to do that, then they're going to need material.
So that's possibly good news, but I'm still not I'm
not on board with this particular acquisition.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, Yeah, I was more on board with Netflix. But
I guess we'll just have to see how things turn out.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, and there's no way of knowing if the other
one would have been any better or worse because you
only get one of them. We don't have any sliding
doors we can walk through and see what would have
happened otherwise. Let us now we don't have stuff that
doesn't fit this week. I originally had a couple of
things in there, Yeah, but we needed to make sure
that this episode goes in a very tight time slot,

(28:35):
and so I cut them because none of them were
like really important, because it may be the documentary about
Louren Michael's, which I think looks like it's going to
be really entertaining.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I was going to say the trailer for Preschool, which
looked really silly.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
That also looks dark because there was some pretty nasty
like violence in that. But yeah, the preschool, the basic
premise is it's two families where the fathers and each
of the families are determined to have their respective newborn
baby enter into this prestigious preschool. But there's only one
slot available for that year, and so they they essentially
go to war against each other trying to get that spot.

(29:12):
My guess is that neither of them get it. Like
that's kind of the the just Dessert sort of war
the roses kind of ending. But we'll say anyway, let
us move on into the Horror Hutch, which is completely
spider free this week.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Oh good.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, we don't have time for them, so I told
them just to, you know, go on vacation.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
We're only now hitting thirty minutes, so we're doing okay.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, but I want to be sure before I start
talking about these Now, I didn't ask you to watch
any of these trailers. Did you watch any of them.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I skipped one of them, and it's the one that
you told me I should probably skip.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Which one did I tell you should skip?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Nocchio?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Probably a good idea. Okay, I watched their rest well
first you joined me in Misery and watching the trailer
for Frankenstein's Bride. This is a movie from The Asylum.
If you're not familiar with The Asylum, they're mostly known
for their mockbusters, where they make movies that can easily
be confused with blockbuster films, like when Transformers came out,

(30:17):
they had transmorphers, you know that kind of thing, where
they make these typically pretty cheap and fast films capitalizing
on the popularity of some other ip. In this case,
the assumption is that they were trying to jump on
the bandwagon with a Maggie Gillenhall's Bride picture coming out

(30:40):
to make Frankenstein's Bride. Now, the plot is totally different
from Bride, so it's not like it's aping that. The
plot is that Frankenstein creates a bride for his monster,
and on the wedding day, the monster is killed by villagers,
so the bride brings her man back and then they
lot revenge, which apparently involves resurrecting a whole bunch of

(31:02):
corpses and going on a rampage. There also apparently is
a giant. I do not know what's going on. And
here's the thing. This movie's out right now on digital.
We just got the trailer this week, but it's been
out since the end of February. So I am not
a fan of The Asylum. I will say I think
this trailer looks like the movie is marginally more competently

(31:24):
made than a lot of the other stuff I've seen
now that studio.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I was about to say, it looks almost decent from
an asylum for an asylum film, it is interesting. Yeah,
it's interesting that they made it and they released it
because they probably made it after Del Toro's Frankenstein. But
then are trying to capitalize on the popularity for The
Bride because apparently that's getting some pretty good reviews.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah. I don't know if this is worth watching. I
am not going to watch it. I have seen a
few movies from The Asylum. I have liked precisely zero
of them, and I don't want to subject myself to
that again. But that doesn't mean that it's necessarily terrible.
It could be that this is totally watchable. I know

(32:08):
some people get a kick out of like doing group
watches for that kind of stuff, but I just find
it too cynical like it to me, it feels like
it's a movie that was made by committee, and I
don't find any joy in that. Like, but maybe this
is different. Yeah. Then we have the movie that you
skip the trailer, which is good because there were some
nasty body horror stuff in this it's Pinocchio unstrung. So

(32:31):
this is part of the Twisted Childhood universe that's the
one that has like the Winnie the Pooh, Peter Pan,
and Bambi horror movies. This one's another one of those.
So it's the fifth film in that universe. This movie
has Geppetto. A man named Geppetto has a grandson who's
named is James. James is lonely, so Geppetto introduces James

(32:55):
to this magical living doll named Pinocchio, which apparently is
an actual, like real life puppet as opposed to CGI
like they actually used a physical puppet for that, which
I admire the fact that they went practical. That's great, yes,

(33:17):
But then Pinocchio wants to be a real boy and
decides that the best way to do that is to
harvest parts from people who are bad, like people that
he've used as being bad, because James has given him
a pretty rudimentary understanding of good versus bad, So Pinocchio
targets anyone that he thinks of as bad and then
rips parts off off of them in order to to

(33:38):
create himself a human body so he can be just
like James. Also, Robert England voices the cricket, so Freddy
Freddy from The Nightmare on Elm Street is the voice
of the cricket, which is another I don't know. The
cricket to me might be CGI, but it's another weird
looking little critter.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, it looks kind of stop motion at the very least,
but I'm looking at some pictures. It is interesting because
Robert England, the couple of times that I've met him,
has been in a very nice guy and I know
he's done some like children's entertainment too, so like it
is a wide scatter on his career.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
It's just he's also, I mean, he's always got his
foot in the world of horror because so many horror
directors just love those nightmare movies, so like, like everybody
likes to have Robert England playing like a cameo part
in their horror movie. The trailer says this is coming soon,
so I do not have a date for when this

(34:36):
will be out. Next up, we have a trailer for
The Cure. This one has an actor that Ariel thinks
it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, David Desmalchian.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I do think he's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
He's really got it both drama and comedy.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, he's playing a biotech founder. Ashley Green is playing
his wife, and they have adopted a sixteen year old
girl who has a mysterious illness. But the girl slowly
begins to realize that her adopted parents are not the
benevolent caretakers she thought they were. You know, they're constantly
like taking blood and she's told that it's so that

(35:12):
they can treat whatever her illness is, but she comes
to learn that they're using her blood as a kind
of fountain of youth, you know, cure all sort of approach,
and she decides to find a way to get out
of that situation. And this comes out April thirteenth, And
I like the trailer. But I found the sound mixing

(35:32):
for the trailer to be really distracting because there are
parts where they just drop the sound out of whatever's
going on on screen, and I'm like, there's stuff happening
that should be making noise, but there's no noise.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah. Yeah, But the trailer itself looks pretty good. It
looks almost like there are some gory moments, but it
looks almost more suspenseful sci fi to me.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, this this definitely looks like it's on the
thriller side of horror. I mean, there does look like
there's some you know, some blood. I mean there is
blood because they're taking it from her day after day.
But yeah, it's it's an interesting concept. And also, I mean,
what a horrific concept, right, Like to find out your
parents are literally bleeding the life out of you in

(36:16):
order to exploit you like that, that's all it's. It's
a very thinly disguised allegory, I would argue, but it's
it's pretty horrific. Then finally we have Mermaid. This is
a movie that made its debut last year at South
By Southwest. It stars Johnny Pemberton, who I think of

(36:37):
as Bow from Superstore or bad from Fallout. Yep, he
was in Fallout as well. He plays He plays a
quote unquote Florida man. The character's name is Doug. He's
a drug addicted loser. He kind of hits the lowest
point in his life and then discovers a monstrous and

(36:59):
ill mermaid, which he carries back home to nurse back
to health. And it looks like it's both horrific and
darkly comedic, and reviewer Matt Zoller sites of Rogeribert dot
com called it a cross between Splash and again it
burnings but obviously and we're back for y'all. Hopefully you

(37:23):
didn't even notice we were gone. But we had like
some crazy, like twenty seconds of lag almost between the
two of us.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Like, now, I was about to try to lag you
again for pretense, but I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Don't do that. Like, we have a limited amount of
time to record this episode, but we.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Only have five more things to talk about.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, so it should be a pretty short one unless
we have something like a lot to say about any
of these. First up, this is our actual lineup. Now
we have left the horror hutch behind, the spiders can
come back from their vacation, and uh, first up our
lineup is we got a trailer for Scary Movie six.

(38:05):
Before I talk about it, I want to hear what
your thoughts are, Ariel.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
So it's interesting to me that we're getting a run
of these kind of movies that are spoof on other things,
because we just got like a new Naked Gun and
stuff like that. So first of all, I thought we
were kind of past and like we got History of
the World recently. I guess not that recently, but it
feels like recently History of the World Part two, so
that kind of like low brow, easy pick in humor.

(38:38):
It's interesting to me that we're getting a run of it.
That's the first thing I want to say. Watching this trailer,
there was one thing that made me incredibly happy, and
that's that they had a Hard Eyes monster in there.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah. Yeah, there's a bit that's a reference to Scream six.
I think it's whichever one has like a there's a
scene on a subway train and in the trailer they
it's just packed with horror movie like slasher characters. So
Hard Eyes. Annabelle leather Face from Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Jason

(39:16):
from Friday the thirteenth, the Fishermen from I Know What
You Did last Summer. Yeah, there was the obviously ghost
face from.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Scream and Meghan.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah Megan, Oh, I said, annabel Megan is what I meant,
not annabel You can see how I can make the
different the mistake though, yes, for sure. Yeah, no, no, Megan,
not Annabelle. Yeah. And there are other references throughout the
trailer to other horror movies, like there's I think penny

(39:49):
Wise is also on that subway, but there's like Long Legs.
There's references to Long Legs. There's references to Sinners Weapons, Yeah,
the Terrifier, smile Winnsday.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, there's a lot of references. I was specifically happy
about Hard Eyes because it was directed by a dropout
guy who does a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
The Lord. You know, there's other entertainment out there besides dropout.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
I know, but I'm happy to see these people who
the thing is like it's kind of an independent streaming service,
and they do treat their actors well, but a lot
of them, you know, it's acting work. You need more,
and I'm glad to see the people that I enjoy
making comedy being successful in other venues, however, but it's
also a more It was more of a I don't know,
it felt like more of like an indie thing. It

(40:33):
wasn't a part of a series at least yet, you know,
it is its own little, standalone special thing. So I
was glad to see that reference. I was glad that
it was popular enough to get reference because I enjoyed it.
It was hard eyes if you don't remember is I
know Jonathan does, but is like a Scream meets a
Hallmark movie, and so I thought it was really cute.

(40:56):
Beyond that though, So that's why I liked the movie.
I like the people who created it. I thought it
was fun, and I'm glad that this smaller property got
was so successful. Beyond that, the humor was some of
it was, you know, it was very lude, and that's
just not for me.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Beyond just being lude, it is joyfully anti woke, and
that that I just find that tiresome. Like I'm not
here to sit there and say, like the whole woke approach,
like there are certainly performative people out there who need
to be taken down a peg or two, but like

(41:36):
there's a whole joke about pronouns that I was just like, really,
we're doing a pronounce joke? I mean, is that where
we are? Then, like, there's some jokes that indulge in
racial stereotypes, which again not a big surprise considering this
series some very broad political humor that's not particularly insightful

(41:59):
or funny in my mind. Which if you really like
this trailer, that's fine, you should really enjoy it. I
actually do like the first two Scary Movie movies. I
find them sporadically entertaining. The second one I am. I
feel guilty about liking as much as I do, but

(42:19):
I felt that they declined in quality over time to
the point where I stopped watching. So I haven't seen
I think four or five. So I found the humor
tiresome in a lot of this, and I worry that
it's going to follow the Seth MacFarland route of I
don't have a joke, let's just make a reference, right

(42:42):
where like the reference is the joke.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
And I think that's part of the problem, because you know,
like movies do focus on culture, and so with some
of the stuff that's coming across Anti Woke, I none
of the actors I don't know much about them, personally,
but they don't come across as super anti woke people
to me. There was a period of time and again

(43:06):
it's it's a bygone era where like the humor was,
let's make fun of the thing that I am before
anybody else can make fun of it. But when you
aren't delivering a good or a clever joke about it,
and you're just like, hey, this thing that exists, it
doesn't just work.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, I think it's more like I just I just
feel like those jokes have already played out, like the
things pronouns and stuff right, Like that's it's more like
like like it's not funny. It just feels like they're
jabbing to jab right, and that there's not really any
anything else behind it. And it's the difference I get,

(43:41):
I take between movies like the Naked Gun series or
airplane things like that, where the jokes were more absurd
and they weren't about like taking down any particular archetype
other than just like the general archetype of police procedurals

(44:02):
or airplane disaster movies.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I mean, I've just never been a fan of Carrie
movie or any of those spoof movies, like some of
them have a cute couple cute moments, but I find
it not clever. Yeah, and I thought we were past
that style of humor.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, I think a lot of the spoof movies, like
I used to make the joke that the spoof movie
should all, they should just stop titling them and just
release one a year and call it spoof movie twenty
twenty six and the next year's a spoof movie twenty
twenty seven. Because like a lot of those spoof movies,
they don't really adhere to whatever they're supposedly spoofing. It's

(44:42):
just like a smorgas board of different random film references,
usually ones that are far too dated by the time
the parody comes out. And yeah, I just get really
tired of that. But I know that there are people
who have been really having positive reactions to this trailer,
so I don't I'm not judging if other people really

(45:04):
like it. It's not for me. It's not my kind
of humor. If it were a little more absurd and
a little less I don't know, it feels edge lordy
to me. I'm just I'm like, I'm too old to
be an edge lord y'all.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
It feels like scary movie humor. Now mind you again,
I've only seen clips and bits it just yeah, it's
also not for me, but it's never been for me.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah that's fair.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
But I do like Anna Faris getting quirk, so that's cool.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, well, next up that comes out, by the way,
June twelfth is when that movie comes out. Next up.
We got a trailer for a sci fi comedy that
I didn't know about called Mike and Nick and Nick
and Alice, and it's a pretty high concept comedy and
I enjoyed this trailer. I'm curious what you thought. Do

(45:56):
you want to try and explain what the movie's about.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, so I also missed that this was happening, or
if I saw it, I probably went, oh, it's Vince Vaughn.
It's probably some like comedy drama, comma. This is not
a drama d drama's drama with a little bit of comedy.
Is a comedy with a little bit of drama, but
it's not. It focuses around a guy and his friend,

(46:24):
and his guy's like, you have to help me on
this heist. We have to chloroform somebody, and it turns
out that that somebody is him because the person maneuvering
or starting the heist is himself from the future and
hijinks ensue.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, So Vince Vaughan plays Nick. Nick is a gangster.
His friend Mike played by James Marsden, is also a gangster,
and it turns out that something happens on this particular
night where things go really bad, and I think at
one point Nick even says that Mike dies as a
result of it, and so his future self has come

(47:02):
back to that night to prevent whatever it is that
makes it all fall apart. And apparently he's done this
a few times because kind of like, you know, be Good,
the Good Luck Don't Die movie, It's kind of.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Like that, Oh did you get to see that?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
No, I'm bitter anyway, maybe i'll see it this coming
week because my partner is going to be out of town,
so maybe I'll go see it. But the yeah, the
whole idea is that he's trying to come back and
stop this event from happening, and it looks pretty funny.

(47:42):
It premieres at South By Southwest on March fourteenth, but
then it comes out on Hulu on March twenty seventh,
so they we're not getting a wide theatrical release for it,
which is a shame because it looks like the kind
of movie that might be fun to watch in a
like a receptive crowd.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, yeah, I'm into it.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah. I bet that south By Southwest Screaming screening is
going to be a lot of fun. For sure. I
want to go to.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
South By Southwest one day.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, it's you know what, It's fun once or twice
and then and then I'm good. I'm done.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Cool. So what you're saying is we won't go as
large nerdrawn if we ever.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I also, I also think that maybe it's already too
late to want to go to south By south because
Austin is no longer the Austin it used to be,
which is a gotcha. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
It's a different thing. But next up, speaking of different things,
we got a review for a television series that's coming

(48:43):
out on Peacock called The Miniature Wife.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Except for I don't think it's that different. I think
it's just honey, I shrunk the kids reskinned.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Well, only if the kids were like like, let's say
that the kids were like big famous actors and the
parents were nobodies and they felt like the kids were
ruling the house and now that the kids are shrunk,
things have turned. Because that's kind of what's happening in
this trade.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Are you saying the husband is it nobody?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, No, that's exactly what I'm saying, because like the
in the trailer, Elizabeth Banks plays a wife and she's
an author who has won the Pulitzer Prize. Her husband
is a scientist who's working on a truly transformative technology
to shrink stuff down, but he is largely unrecognized. So

(49:29):
she holds all the like the clout in their relationship
and seems to be really comfortable with that, and then
things go south when she accidentally triggers his his invention
and shrinks herself and now the shoe is on the
other teeny tiny foot.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
You see, I thought you were talking about the actors.
I'm like, no, that's a well known actor.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I was giving what is called an example to kind
of illustrate.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I just had my first cup of coffee of the
day and it's two o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
So yeah, but yeah, it's this looks like it's a
kind of a comedy series as well, not like Whack
a Doodle Crazy comedy, but lots of comedy in it,
and Elizabeth Banks is playing like a a like I
don't know, like the trailer. There's not a lot of
sequences in the trailer where she comes across as particularly likable.

(50:29):
I'm sure the series will be different, but in the
trailer she just comes across as kind of entitled and like,
you know, very comfortable in her place, as being doted
upon by the publishing world, and then extremely obviously mad
when she gets shrunk, which was her fault by the way.

(50:49):
In the trailer, she picks up his invention and she's
the one that triggers it, so it's not like it's
his fault. And then he seems very devoted, and I'm like, oh,
is this going to be a thing where they're going
to make her into kind of a harpy type character
and the husband into this devoted husband who's trying desperately
to help her, like, because I'm not totally interested in that.

(51:11):
I would prefer there to be both flaws and strengths
in both characters, and I'm sure there are. It's just
a trailer it.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Seemed like there were, but also Elizabeth Banks plays a
very good harpy like, and she does comedy super well.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
So yeah, she's an extraordinarily talented actress. And Matthew mcfaden
plays her husband. And this comes out on April ninth
on Peacock, and I'll probably check it out. It looks
like it could be interesting to at least I'll watch

(51:47):
an episode or two. We'll see if it has staying power.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
The I mean it. You said it wasn't chocolate block
fill of comedy. I thought there was a lot of
comedy in it. I thought that was more comedy than not.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Well, yeah, no, I agree with that. It's not as
it's not like Honey I Shrunk the Kids comedy.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Exception of where she's trying to stab a fly midair, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Where she's doing like the the it looks like it's
the jump from three hundred, the Spartan jump where it's
like the super arched back and you're holding the knife
over your head with both hands.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah. If I have Peacock when it comes out, I'll
probably give it a try. The special effects in the
trailer don't look super great to me.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
But yeah, there's a there's a real rough green screen
went in there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yeah, but the next the next teaser. I am super into.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, we got a longer teaser slash trailer for the
Lanterns series. This is the Green Lantern series that is
part of the DC Cinematic universe, and we get to
see more of how Jordan kind of putting John Stewart
through the ringer Kyle Jordan being a Green Lantern and

(53:05):
John Stewart being a new Green Lantern recruit. They are
investigating a murder in Nebraska. We know that they are
going to encounter such characters as Guy Gardner, Nathan Fillion's
character who's apparently much more high strung in this series,
as well as Sinestro, a classic Green Lantern villain. And
the language is a little bit salt gear than what

(53:26):
you find in Superman.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, it's kind of gritty Texas drama. There's not a
lot of like CGI. You don't see a lot of
the Green Lantern's powers in the teaser. But I'm kind
of okay with this. And the reason why is like,
did you ever watch the old Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
No, I've never seen that.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
It's goofy as all goof out, and I feel like,
especially the rest of the Green Lantern squad which they
do mention in teaser, you don't get to see them
are so off the wall in design and personalities that like,
you almost need the extra gritty to ground it so

(54:11):
that you can accept the ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, and if you if you look at good Nort
from the Green Lantern core, he's goofy is all get out.
I think that might be the one that Hal Jordan
refers to as looking like a squirrel. He talks about
one being a squirrel. It is weird in that section
that he doesn't mention Guy Gardner at all. Yeah, but
then I don't know exactly when on the timeline this

(54:34):
is happening either, like whether or not Guy Gardner is
an established lantern at the point where that scene plays out.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to find out. But I am
super So. I love John Stewart as a Green Lantern.
And then I love Kyle Chandler as an actor. I've
enjoyed his performances since early edition back in the day.
So and so yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to this,

(55:04):
are you?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. It comes out in
August and I'll have eight episodes, and I've been enjoying this.
I mean, really, what am I saying? Like, really, I've
only seen Superman and then Creature Commandos I think is
supposed to be part of the officially part of the

(55:27):
James Gunn, it's still confusing to me about which parts
of the DC films are officially part of that universe
and which ones aren't. Like is the Suicide Squad officially
part of it? Because Peacemaker is right, and Peacemaker comes
from the Suicide Squad. So there's like a lot of

(55:48):
I just want James Gunn to sit down and say, look,
here are the movies that I consider to be part
of this universe, because I don't know what is and
isn't at this point.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yeah, yeah, it is interesting, but there's there's yeah, there's
been crossover between Peacemaker and Creature Commandos, and then I
think between Creature Commandos and Superman, so and between Peacemaker
and Superman.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, and the and the plot of Peacemaker season two
is completely dependent upon the Suicide Squad, right, So, and
then the fact that Guy Gardner shows up in season
two of Peacemaker, even though it's just essentially a cameo,
that ties it in with the other stuff that's going
on in the Gun universe. I'm just like, this probably

(56:33):
doesn't matter. A gun might not even think it matters
at all. And I get that, but like there's a
OCD part of my brain that just needs to make
sense of everything.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Well, I just know that he originally said all that
stuff would be in like the other world, like you know.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, except that except that they're clearly is stuff that's
both at Superman. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Maybe there's
supposed the altra. It doesn't matter, It really doesn't matter.
I'll get over it. So yes, I am looking.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Into it, but I get I get what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah, And this brings us to our final piece for
this episode. This this relatively short episode that's in three
parts because of weird weather and technical issues. Uh. We
got a trailer, a full trailer for the final season
of the Boys, and it looks like the main arc

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this season is that Homelander is looking for uh the
the gen one formula that would potentially give him immortality,
and that meanwhile, Butcher and the Boys are trying to
figure out a way to stop him before that can happen,

(57:46):
with Butcher saying that their only real option is to
unleash a virus that will that's deadly to superheroes. So
that's the oh in Kamiko talks, oh I missed that.
Oh yeah, there's a bit where a train shows up
and hugs Starlight and then Comikos says, uh, something like

(58:09):
are you guys in love now or something like that
is hey, you talk now? And she's like yep, and
that's the end.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I miss I missed that bit. I obviously haven't watched
The Boys in a very long time because it is
enough for me and this.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
It's a tough it's a tough show for me to watch,
and like, I'm sure I'm gonna watch the final season
because it's like the sunk cost fallacy. I've watched the
other four and I want to see how it ends,
because I know it's not going to be exactly. It
can't be the way that the comic book ends. Like
it might be similar, but they've already they've already moved

(58:44):
away from where the comic book went in lots of
different ways, not in any ways that I feel are
super important, Like, you know, it's generally telling the same story,
it's just the details are different. But I am curious
how they wrap it all up, and I hope it
has a satisfying ending. Here's the thing, even though The

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Boys is ending after the season, we know that's not
going to be the end of the IP because it
was successful. So I suspect we'll get more spin offs
and continuations in the form of other series. I don't
know if gen V was or whatever it is, the

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one that's set in the College, I don't know if
that's been renewed for a third season. That wouldn't surprise
me if it were, because you know, once you once
you find a property that resonates with an audience, it's
so much easier to just keep that going and to
cash in on that popularity than it is to create
something wholly new.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, just like something wholesomely new.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Well, it's not gonna be The Boys. It's not gonna
be any like you know, there's a whole subgenre of
comic book stuff like In and The Boys. That Preacher.
That's just not where you're gonna find that. What's the Preacher?
Oh Preacher? I thought she said Reacher, And I'm like, well,
Reacher's not technically a superhero, budd he might as well
be man meat Mountain is pretty much done like a superhero. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, Now, I like the actors. I'll just have you
cliff notes to me how it ends and that'll be yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I mean, if you watch it, I sure hope jack
Quade's character comes out okay in the end, because that
guy's been through so I mean, like they've tortured that
character extensively throughout the series to the point beyond what
happened to him in the comic book. And it's like,
and it was treated as a joke, which I still

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have problems with, Like, I still think the showrunner made
some fundamental bad choices with how Hugheye is treated because
he was looking at it as a punchline, and I'm like,
this is sexual assault and you're treating it like it's

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a joke. And that's into that. That's always bad period. Today,
when I think we have a heightened awareness and understanding,
it's it's even worse in a way because there's no excuse,
Like not that the excuses in the past were justifiable,

(01:01:30):
but but you know, that's not the culture anymore, and
to keep going with that just feels like really wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Had I fully agree, Yeah, And that's that's where we
get to end it this week.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Yeah, we had other stuff that was in the lineup
that I cut, but like, I don't think it was
anything really critical, you know, there was, there was some
Most of the stuff I cut was the less fun stuff.
Like we had a thing about the Testaments, which is
a spin off of the Handmaid's Tale. That's not fun either.

(01:02:08):
If we had ended with that, it would have been
real depressive.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine that you took that out. I
did look and see if there was anything else I
wanted to talk about, and there wasn't. Sorry, I've had
one cup of coffee and it was it too, so
my brain is not firing on all cylinders.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
I had one cup of coffee as well, but that
was at like that was after I had to put
out a work fire, which happened at seven in this morning.
So good times all right. Well, I guess this is
the time where we tell everybody how to get in
touch with us.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Yeah, how do they do that? Johnhan?

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
If they wanted to get in touch with me, they
have to send me a question, but they have to
break it up into three separate files, and then they
have to edit those three files together in a way
that hope I can't notice that it was three separate
files originally and now it looks like one seamless file,
and to the average person, it'll just seem like it's

(01:03:09):
a normal file. And if you can do that and
ask your question and get it to me, I'll answer it,
because that's what I gotta do with this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Oh say, are you trying to get them to do
your work for you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Also your Hey, if you want to edit this episode,
I will answer anything you want.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Also, we're getting a storm in my direction, so if
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(01:03:46):
can send us a longer form email at large nerdron
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listening and for being a part of our geeky family,
and thank you for everybody who does reach out. We
love hearing about the things you're excited about or the
geehee things that you do in your life. And until
next time, I am I don't know what is my

(01:04:07):
name again? Uh Ariel the little cast In.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah, I'm Jonathan, don't know why there's no sun up
in the sky Strickland for me Weather the large Nerdron
Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,

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published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
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