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February 21, 2026 86 mins

Ariel and Jonathan talk about a rumor that Walt Disney World is having Imagineers dream bigger for the upcoming Villain Land expansion to the Magic Kingdom. Plus, we chat about romantic movies, one of James Van der Beek's final films that's coming out soon, and a bunch of geeky stuff!

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Ner Drunk Collider, the
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm Aerial Caston and with me is always is the
amazing Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I am a good boy. I had a salad for lunch.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh. I thought you're gonna say you're a good boy.
You're a nice dog in a horror movie.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh no, I still need to watch that. I haven't
seen that one yet. But no, no, I am. I'm
proud of myself for having just a modest but tasty
salad for lunch. I had, and I mean an actual salad,
not like potato salad, not macaroni salad, not one of

(00:55):
those Midwest salads.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Those are actual salads.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Those are salad. I had one that had greens and
stuff on it.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Potato salad is all the food groups if you do
it right, mine, it's fruit. You should not put raisins
and potato salad.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of anything like. Same
for tuna salad. I don't like ones that where you
get like the raisins or cranberries or something in those,
but chicken salad. No, still no, No, I don't want
apples in my chicken salad. I know people who swear
by it, and I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying
it's wrong for me.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
No, that's fine. I like fruit in my chicken salad,
but not in my tuna salad or my potato salad,
which is interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
What about your egg salad? No, get a good old
slice of banana and that egg salad, just the consistency alone.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
So before I met my husband, apparently he and his
friends were hanging out one time and one of his
friends decided to put skittles and m and ms in
the same candy bowl unwrapped.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
So clearly clearly a psychopath.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yes, and putting banana an egg into an egg salad
feels like about the same level.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, I will say I do. I do enjoy the
old Southeastern delicacy of a banana and mayo sandwich like
that was the thing that was kind of Depression era
when food was hard to come by, super cheap, But
it continued to be kind of a staple, particularly in

(02:29):
the Southeast, more in the Carolinas than Georgia. But I
grew up in Northeast Georgia, so closer to the Carolinas.
And I know some people who just think that that's
the weirdest thing they've ever heard, like bananas, and like mayo.
By the way, Duke's mayo has to be Duke's mayo
because it's tangy yea never never ever miracle whip. Not

(02:50):
salad dressing.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
No miracle whip.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
No, it just doesn't work. Like it's the tanginess that
that balances the sweetness of the banana. And it needs
to be like you need to get a banana that
hasn't gone too ripe, because otherwise it's just gross. Right Like,
once it goes too ripe, forget it. That's banana bread territory.
That's where that is destined to go.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah. Now, I will say, like I do really like
sweet and savory together. And maybe it's just I haven't
tried fruit in my tuna salad. It's a different vibe
because I do love fruit in my sushi. You put
some apple or some banana or some mango and some sushi,
and I am all for it.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I mean, I'm not gonna criticize you. I can't. It's
very rare when I am allowed to have sushi these days,
I get because my partner is somewhat terrified of me
dying from an allergic reaction. Reasonable it's gotten more, it's
gotten more sensitive as I've gotten older, and so you
you know, there's some sushi places where they are meticulously careful,

(03:55):
and if you explain to them, I love sushi, but
I cannot have shell fit, they will be very good
about making sure that the space they're using and the
tools they're using are uncontaminated. But you know, you can't
count on that, and so I just don't go anymore.
And it's kind of sad because I really, I genuinely

(04:16):
loved sushi. I just can't risk it anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It might be one of those things where if like
you get a wild hair, you should like get some
fish from the fish counter.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I get like sushi grade two now or something.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
It makes sense. I would even say, like go to
an h Mark, but I don't know how they prepare.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Their I'd probably go to the cab Farmer's Market, which
is now we're really narrow casting.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yes, I went to so when I was at too
some I went to a twosome emporium chocolate emporium while
while I was out in Florida one of these recent times,
and they asked my allergies and I told them, and
they came out to ask me if vegetable oil was okay,
because they're like, it doesn't list the vegetables in it,

(05:00):
and then they'd put something else on there that like
I told them no, tomatoes, right, that was it because
I'm on allergy shots now, but they couldn't tell from
the vegetable oil. So they came out and they checked
with me. And I've never had anybody go that detailed
in checking. But when it came out, I had these
little light tear drop peppers on it which were hole
and I could pick them off and it was fine.
But I was like, are these tomatoes? Are these tear

(05:21):
drop peppers? And they're like, oh, they're tear drop peppers.
Let me go back and research if you can have them,
which I knew I couldn't because I'm aware, but I
was like sure, And they went back and they looked
it up and they gave me all this information on
this food and like, I've never had that happen before.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Wow. Yeah, I was about to say, like, you know,
if you're going to a boutique chocolate place, then you
would have to keep an eye out for stuff like cayenne, right, Yeah, yeah,
like the Mexican chocolates where they add some pepper to it,
that kind of stuff, because I know you're sensitive to
that as well.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, I mean it is. It is better because of
my shots, but there are still some things that I
just can't do. I we talked about this recently. Okay,
I'm gonna get off this bunny trail.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, then let us let us move over to what
our question of the week is. And this question of
the week was provided by Ariel.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, and then I promptly forgot to think about it.
But the question is, what do you think is the
best romance movie? It doesn't have to be geeky, but
if it is, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I do have an answer for this, and in fact,
after cutting out a lot of hemigan haying, I have
written down my answer physically, I've written down my answer
on a notepad. But I want Ariel to answer first
because I'm worried that if I give my answer, Ariel's
just going to piggyback onto it. So I want to

(06:42):
hear your answer about what you think is the best
romantic movie.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Do I piggyback on your answers a lot?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
No, not at all. But I want to make sure
that it's possible that you will independently pick the same
movie I picked. I don't want to influence you, but
I have written my so even if you pick something
totally different than I fully agree with you, I still
have my answer that I wrote down that I have
to stick to.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, So like I have the movie that like all
of my geeky friends pick, but I'm not going to
pick that one, even though I.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Do very much love it, which is.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
The Princess Bride, which I'm guessing is what you wrote. Yeah,
it is what he wrote. But there are two other
movies that I really like. One of them I don't
even even know if it would count as a romance,
but I like them both for similar reasons. And one
is The Court Jester by Danny k which is just

(07:40):
also one of my favorite movies of all time, because
the women in that are very strong and the men
are very comedic, and it makes for a fun like
romantic dynamic that you don't get to see all the time.
The other one is Crazy Rich Asians, which I freaking

(08:01):
love and I love it because the conflict does not
come from the relationship between the romantic leads. It comes
from outside forces. So neither romantic lead has done anything
to cause any conflict, and they're both trying to problem
solve to fix the external conflict. And so many times
in romantic movies you see the conflict where it's like, uh,

(08:27):
you know you did this and I'm mad at you
or whatever, or you know, there's there's an even power dynamic,
and I like when those two things are not there.
So those are my answers.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
So do you believe that the pellet with the poisons
in the vessel with the pestle.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Uh No, But the flagon with the dragon has the
Brew that is true.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I don't know if that's from the palace palace. The
dragon works well too, but it's the chalice from the
palace has the Brew that it's it's true.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Listen, they go around and mix it up so much
that I'm not sad when I can't remember the exact
order of things.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
The thug with the mug is no. Those are good answers. Yeah, No,
Princess Bride is mine. I mean, that's kind of a
in many ways. It is a very easy answer, like
it's all about true love. It's a very silly movie,
but it's also very sweet movie. It's also the movie

(09:29):
where Mark Knopfler of the you know, the same guy
from Dire Straits who did Money for Nothing and Chicks
for Free, he did the music for the Princess Bride,
and we took the song Storybook Love and had that
as an instrumental version of that as the recessional music

(09:51):
at our wedding. So there's a special place romantically for
me for that particular movie for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's why sugar Rush is a romantic song for me. No,
it's not. But that was my cake cutting song.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's that's that's why f the police. I'm dating myself
with those references.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
But you know, it's not like you don't date yourself
every week.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
That's true purpose, it's true. Yeah, most of the time,
it's on purpose. Occasionally it's just like, oh yeah, he's
old man, yelly get passing clouds. All right, Well, that
was a good That was a good answer to that question.
It's gonna be a lot of editing for me to
fix that up so it flows correctly. But that's mostly
my fault.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, listen, if the episode starts right here, because of
all of the foibles at the beginning, it's not going
to be too bad.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, yeah, we had a We also had a technical
glitch like eight minutes in or six minutes in, so uh,
all right, Well, then let us move on to talk
about what we have watched since the last time we recorded. Now, Ariel,
you had a lot of travel that you did. I

(11:09):
had a little bit of travel, but mine was like,
I flew out to the place where I went to
on Friday. I'm not gonna reveal it yet, but I
will reveal it, and then I flew back on Sunday morning.
So I wasn't gone that long. But did you have
a chance to watch anything?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Barely? Barely? Like I am very backed up. I have
two episodes of the Pit I need to watch. I
put down that I watched it because I thought I
was going to watch it Wednesday, and then I just
slept a whole bunch. I recovered from travel a whole bunch.
But I have watched some more Shrinking. I finished season one,
which I really like, which is the Jason Siegul Harrison

(11:47):
Ford both play therapists, but their lives are also a mess,
because therapists are also people. I watched the latest episode
of Make Some Noise, which was delightful. On drop out,
I watched episode A Fallout again because we've started over.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm watching can you say two? Do you mean episode two?
Period or episode two? Season two, Season.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Two, episode two?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, I've watched some more down Abby. I'm in season
five now, and I watched a little bit more of
the Fall of the Azi Fang, which is the current
critical role actual play that Brendan Lee Mulligan is dming.
I am not at all caught up. I'm only on
episode nine, but I've started catching up mainly because I

(12:38):
can't watch the current season of Dimension twenty without my
husband because he's actually watching this season.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
So yeah, so you have to be able to coordinate
your schedules to be able to watch it. Yeah, understood.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
And I have just been going to bed early like
a responsible adult.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Sometimes it's it sounds boring, but it sure does feel
nice when you actually get enough rest. It's it's rare,
but when it happens, boy, it's nice.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Someday, Someday I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
It feels like. Yeah, I look forward to that day.
I watched I'm Caught up on Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Boy,
that was a violent episode, but it had to be
because it was going to be. It's set during a
jousting tournament, so it's part of the joust so yeah,

(13:31):
it gets violent. I watched a couple more episodes with
my partner of a superstore, so we are very slowly
making our way through the final season. I think we've
only got maybe a handful of episodes left. It is.
The last season is very different because of the departure
of one of the main characters, and without that person's presence,

(13:55):
the show does. I mean, it's still it's still fun
because everybody does a great job on that show, but
it does throw things off a bit. And then finally,
this isn't a show or a movie or anything. But
you know, I did mention last week that if you
tracked me down at Meowolf at the installation I was

(14:16):
going to, you could ask me any question. Clearly, no
one had any questions to ask me because I went
all the way through the Real Unreal in Grapevine, Texas
for the Mao Wolf installation, and no one once came
up to ask me a question.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
So maybe they just got lost. So I've only been
to Omega Mart in Vegas. Yeah, but that place is amaze.
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, so is the real unreal. The real Unreal is
structured so that it looks like when you first walk
into the entry building part, you're looking at the exterior
of a suburban house, okay, and there's like a garden
shed on one side, and there's some other stuff that's around,
and then you can walk into the house and explore it.

(15:02):
But just like with Omega Mart, there are secret passageways
that open up into other dimensions and there's some really
fun stuff to discover. I'm not going to spoil anything,
because just walking around, even if you don't get invested
in the storyline at all, just walking around is fascinating
as far as the story goes. We thought it was neat,

(15:25):
but we again felt like we had only barely scratched
the surface because there's just so much to go through
that you're like, I have a limited number of hours,
so if I stop too long to do this, I
may miss out on something else. Also, I'm feeling a
bit self conscious that I'm hogging this one resource that's

(15:47):
meant for everybody, right, Like it might be a computer
terminal or a tablet or a smartphone or a book,
you know, and just to be sitting there reading you
really become very aware of your read speed.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yes, yes, for sure. At least at Omega Mart when
I had to do computer stuff, there were several computers.
So is the storyline without giving it away, is it
similar to Omega Mart or is it different.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Enough in some ways because with Omega Mart you learn
that Omega Mart starts off with you walking into like
what looks to be a grocery store, but the closer
you look at the products, the more you're like, oh,
this is weird, right, And then you start to learn
weird things about the person who founded the store, and

(16:38):
then weird things about the corporation that grows up around
the store, and weird things about the family that are
involved in that with the real unreal. The baseline this
is this is something you see immediately as you're walking
in if you're just paying attention. The baseline is there
is a ten year old boy who has gone miss

(17:00):
saying he and his mom have moved in with one
of his mother's friends after the boy's father has passed away,
so mother and son, because she's not able to support
them otherwise, move in with a friend who also her.
The friend also has a father who is in declining health,

(17:24):
and the boy and the father become friends. And the
boy finds that there are that this house is actually
an interdimensional nexus and decides to try and see if
he can find a way to help his friend who
is in declining health, and as in the process, disappears.
So that's kind of the basics, and you learn way

(17:46):
more if you walk around and read everything.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Gotcha? So do you like one better than the other?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
In some ways? I like the Real and Real more
in that some of the pathways between spaces are a
little more interesting to me than the ones at Omegamart,
like the pathway from the front of house where the

(18:18):
store is, to everything that's behind the scenes. That's really cool.
But once you go through that, the rest of the
transitions are slightly less impressive. Not that they're bad, but
I felt that the Real Unreal was kind of consistently impressive.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Interesting, interesting. Well, I look forward to visiting it someday.
I'd like to visit all the Meo wolfs, but none
of them are really close by.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah. No, they're very much a Western United States thing, right. Well,
it's from a group that I think originated out of Albuquerque,
New Mexico. So if Atlanta were to ever get a
Meo Wolf installation, I think that'd be pretty cool. I
think it would be one of those things where people
coming into the city for Dragon Con would be like,
all right, we're gonna go a day earlier than we

(19:04):
normally do, so we can do Meo Wolf before the
convention starts.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, I definitely think Atlanta could support a Meowolf. We
do have like art communities, like we've got like the
Goat Farm and stuff like that, but none of it,
none of it is the same vibe that is literally
just like a maker community.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, because I think I think meal Wolf started
with artists who were all kind of individually working on
their own work, their own projects, and then they gradually
started to collaborate with one another on stuff, and then
those collaborations became more and more intricate, and that kind
of organically grew into hey, let's create an entire walk
through experience, Like I don't think. I don't think they

(19:43):
set out to do that initially. I think it just
kind of organically got there.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, and the Northeast does have some similar vibe type things.
I don't remember what they call, but if we had
some friends who've gone to like houses with weird art
installations and bizarre rooms and stuff like that, but it's
not as in depth immersive.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, and there's some immersive theater projects too, right, Like
there's a few that are in New York. There are
a couple that occasionally are make the rounds in the Southeast.
And then you have other elements that are kind of similar,
like a lot of escape rooms share a little common
DNA with some of the elements of Male Wolf. It's

(20:24):
just Male Wolf. The emphasis is more on the art
and there's not really an escape, it's more of an experience.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, for sure. Well that's super exciting and I'm glad
you got to go do that.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, me too. I mean, I'm sad that no one
had any questions for me, but I guess, you know, guys, just.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I had questions, but I was too tired to travel
at west.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah you were. You had gone south and I had
gone west. All right, Well, then let us move on
to our thirty seconds or less. And I believe I'm first,
am I not?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
You are first?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, I'm first and last? Sorry about that, y'all. All right,
well here we go. We kind of missed this back
when it was first announced, but Mystery Science Theater three
thousand is coming back again again, this time to celebrate
the series twentieth anniversary. So we're getting four new episodes.
That's what's being kickstarted. Mike Nelson, Kevin Murphy, and Brian

(21:20):
Corbett are all returning, so is Pearl Forrester and Doctor
Forrester and tv S Frank will be appearing in one
of the four episodes as guests. Jonathan Colton is doing
the new theme song. Cool.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh, that's super exciting. I remember one of my first
Joco cruises, the MST three K, my second one. THEMST
three K guys were there and it was really neat.
Drop Out, that television streaming service that Jonathan and I
like and I constantly talk about, has added a new
sub service. You can actually get it alone, or you
can get it as a part of your normal dropout subscription,

(21:55):
which is drop Out twenty four to seven. This is
especially exciting for people like husband who likes to turn
on the TV and then not worry about what they're watching.
They're starting with all of their Dimension twenty seasons on
a marathon, and then we'll switch to just showing other
shows full time. So if you're one of those people
who likes to turn on the TV and then not
have to pick what you're watching, there you go.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Okay. The Warner Brothers Discovery acquisition saga continues on one front.
You've got filmmakers like James Cameron saying Netflix acquiring WBD
would be awful for filmmakers theaters. You've got paramount folks
foaming at the mouth wanting to scoop up all WBD assets,
and regulators in the European Union are expected to open

(22:38):
up an antitrust probe about the whole thing, no matter
who wins.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yikes, yeah, Jeeves, this is some Yeah, yikes is correct? Okay.
Paddington Bear in Happier News is becoming a presenter at
this year's Baftift Film Awards. Will be presenting the award
Best Children's and Family Film, of which the most recent
Patty Toon movie was not considered for last year. But yeah,

(23:09):
that's kind of cute and fun. If you haven't seen
the Paddington Bear puppet for the Paddington Musical, which is
what they're using. It's phenomenal. It is a great amalgamation
of artistry and technology.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, it's like Jim Henson level of puppetry. If the
House of the Dragon and The Night of the Seven
Kingdom series aren't enough Game of Thrones for you, how
about seeing a live production of a show set in
West Euros in person. The Royal Shakespeare Company in Jolly
Old England will premiere Game of Thrones The Mad King
in Strafford upon Avon this summer. The story will be

(23:47):
set a bit more than a decade before the events
of the television series.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I don't know if I'll see that, Okay, Tom Middlson
Haley Atwell, speaking of Europe, are bringing their version of
Much Ado About Nothing to Broadway. It will be a
limited ten week g run. We don't know when it starts.
I have signed up for ticket announcements, though I suspect
they will be very expensive and sellout in under five minutes.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I am going to talk to you after the show
for you to give me the link to where you
sign up particular announcements since I need to do that
too okay for sure. JJ Abrams is producing a horror
thriller that's titled Skeletons. Bree Larsen is attached to play
the lead. Abrams brought his proposed project to the European
film market, where it prompted a bidding war between Warner brothers,

(24:37):
Ara mount Meon and Sony. Sony won out with a
healthy chunk of change for the movie. Not much is
known about the film other than J. T. Mohler as
co written the script and it will direct.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Interesting, also interesting. Kristen Bell has been added to the
voice cast for Sonic four. She will be playing Amy Rose,
which feels I guess because her character is pink, but
it feels more of a normal name than any of
the other characters, So I'm a little.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Bit thrown all right. Well. Video game, film and tv
ahabitations are all the rage these days, after if you
managed to reverse the long tradition of them totally sucking.
Next up is Dead by Daylight, a game that pits
one player as a killer, usually someone like Freddy or
Jason or whatever, against a group of other players who

(25:27):
are survivors who are trying to escape. David Leslie Johnston
mcgoldrigg that's his name, and Alexandra Asia are writing the script.
Start your Generators.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Sorry, I tried to go on a deep dive, but
I didn't have enough time. Charlie's Angels is coming back,
this time done by the people who did the proposal
in Crazy Rich Asians, which I didn't know. They were
done by the same people as I mentioned before, Crazy
Rich Ape Occasions is one of my favorite villains.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Wow, that was play Dilly really less than thirty seconds? Okay,
Donuts Donuts. Ryan Kugler wants to believe, the director behind
such films as Black Panther and Sinners, is now casting
for his X Files project. Now, there's conflicting information as

(26:19):
to whether this is a continuation, a revival, or an
outright reboot of the series. Interestingly, Gillian Anderson recently said
she would consider returning with Kugler at the Helm to
play Dana Scully, which is a big change from how
she felt just a few years ago. So here's hoping
very interesting.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I still need to watch that show. Okay. Devin Sawa,
who I know from being the kid in Casper and
one of the dudes in Now and Then, is joining
Disney Channel's Coven Academy. He's playing a teacher and it's
about these teenage teenage which which is so maybe like

(27:02):
a Sabrina the Teenage Witch kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Well, uh, Walt Disney fans, Walt Disney World fans, I
should say, are starting to get excited as a rumor
is circulating that the company wants to go back to
the drawing board with their villains Land concept for the
Magic Kingdom. So, according to Lynn Testa, who often hears
scuttlebutt about the Parks, quote, imagineers have been told to

(27:27):
think of bigger, bolder ideas, budget secondary end quote, which
sounds devilishly fun to me.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Very interesting. I'm surprised they're already revamping it.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well, I think the thing is that the so here's
the deal. Josh Tomorrow, who was the head of Disney Parks,
is going to be the next CEO of the company.
So the going theory right now is that Tomorrow looked
at this and said, you know, this isn't enough. We

(28:04):
need to go bigger with our plans than just doing
the you know, this version of Villain's Land. It's not
ambitious enough, particularly in the wake of Epic Universe right,
Like Epic Universe kind of open people's eyes to what,
you know, truly immersive theming can be, and Disney was

(28:28):
like the king of that. But they're kind of starting
to lose a little bit of ground. So I feel
that this is in part a desire to invest more
in the parks. It's in part recognition that Epic Universe
is a bit of a threat and that, you know,
maybe maybe we'll see the parks get a little bit

(28:49):
more love with Josh Tomorrow as CEO. I'm not gonna
count any chickens before their hatch though, because I've gotten
my hopes up before.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
But here's the thing, Like some of the lands in
Epic Universe are super immersive in their cue, and some
of them are just you wait in a line, right,
It's just you're in a nice looking land. I think
what really makes Epic Universe a step above at.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Least characters are the street characters, much.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Like what brings a Renaissance Festival a step above, and
Disney has had that in the past. If you look
at Smugglers and Smugglers run. But if you look at
Galaxy Edge, Galaxy's Edge, or even Toy story Land, like
back when both of those were they're first of all,
very immersive, and they're the newer parks, and when they

(29:38):
first open, they had tons of street characters. They still
have some, but they've cut back seriously on street entertainment, yeah,
and shows. So maybe that's what I hope the revamp
focuses on that, because, like I loved so much, even
just at the front of Hollywood Studios, the characters of

(29:59):
like the you know, the characters that played old Hollywood people.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, yeah, the street performers.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, Adventurous Club, which was a separate club but a
similar vibe.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Like, well, I I haven't heard anything specific about street entertainment,
but what I have seen is a lot of people
just assuming that villain presence will be a big thing
in the New Land, And I certainly see it as
like Disney. I'm sure Disney's already counting on it as

(30:31):
being like a focal point for like Halloween celebrations. Once
the Villain's Land is ready to go, like that's going
to be like Halloween Central for and they already do
a big Halloween celebration every year, but I feel like
that's going to become like the new focal point moving forward.
Once that land opens up. But I am encouraged to hear,

(30:53):
assuming this is true that they they said, you know what,
this isn't big enough, go bigger and don't worry about
budget that if you're an imagineer, I'm sure that that
is a great thing to hear.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
As long as they don't, I say this, this is
a weird thing to say. As long as they don't
make it exorbitantly more expensive for people to visit.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Right, well, yeah, because it is already like it's that
has been an issue where the price has been creeping
up year over year, Like every year the price goes up,
and it's already to a point where I think for
a lot of people, they're asking the question of do
I think the vacation I want to take is going

(31:40):
to be worth the amount of money I'm going to
have to spend in order to take it, And it's
that question gets harder to say yes to every year,
And part of that is because of various parts of
the park that have been in a sort of perceived decline,
like the fact that street entertainment has been cut back

(32:01):
year after year. And part of that is that just
the prices for everything, not just for the ticket to
get in, but like everything you want to eat lunch,
it's going to be more expensive than it was a
year ago, you know, way more expensive than it was
five years ago. So yeah, yeah, it's just like, though,
there are some big issues there where I would love

(32:22):
to see Disney World reach a better level of affordability
for the average person because it kind of sucks that
people like me can continue to go. And I mean
I love Disney World, Don't get me wrong. I love going,
but it kind of sucks that I can keep going
because I am in a point in my career where

(32:45):
I can afford to go occasionally. But but someone like
I think back to when I was a kid and
I went the first time, like a family, like the
family I came from, I don't know that they that
we would have been able to afford to go if
like if I I were a kid now and my
parents were teachers, I don't know that we could afford
to go to Disney World the way we did like

(33:07):
practically every third year when I was growing up.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah yeah, I mean I used to go to Disney
like once a year, not every year, but for several
years back when I was a preschool teacher and working
at the Renaissance Festival, and I was very poor, but
I was able to save up enough to do that, like,
and it was worth it. I could. I can still
afford to go to Disney. But now I'm like, is

(33:32):
the huge chunk of cash that I would have to
spend on that versus something else worth the entertainment I'm
gonna get? And because so much of the entertainment I
loved is gone, Like I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
And on top of that, you're thinking things like, you know,
crowds have become the perception I have. And granted this
could just be grouchy old man coming out, but crowds
have become more volatile over the year, or at least
that's been my perception. Maybe I just never noticed when
I was younger. But also like as I get older,

(34:07):
managing to be active in that heat and humidity for
most of the year, Like if you're going to Orlando,
unless you're doing it in February or maybe early March,
it gets hot and humid and it sabs the energy
right out of you, especially if you're like me, you're
starting to slow down. So that those are all elements

(34:30):
that I think come into consideration. But my hope is
that we'll start to see some positive changes for the parks,
like we'll see a little more life breathed into them,
and hopefully not have that go hand in hand with
and only the one percent can afford to go there
for sure?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
For sure. Well, here's hoping.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
That was a good thirty seconds of less.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It was. I mean it was almost thirty minutes or
less from beginning to now. Yeah, it might be thirty
minutes or less after your edits.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I don't know that we'll get down that far. I
think we're still going to be over thirty. But you know,
all our listeners will know this by now. We don't
know until I edit it.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, yeah, No, I like I like it when our
thirty seconds are less end on, like a speaking point.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, especially something we're both interested in.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah for sure. Well let's talk about other stuff that
we might be interested in but really shouldn't be at
our show.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah. Yeah, that's the what we're calling the section now.
So first up, we've got a trailer for a World
War two film titled Pressure and yeah not under Pressure.
The main reason I included this was because there are
two actors that we associate with geeky projects who are

(35:50):
taking prominent roles in this movie. One is Brendan Fraser,
who is playing Dwight D. Eisenhower when he was a
general in World War Two, and the other is Andrew Scott,
who is playing a meteorologist whose name I forget now.
But the plot of the movie follows that the Allies

(36:10):
are planning the Normandy invasion the D Day. They're planning
D Day, but they want to consult with a premier
meteorologist to try and figure out what the weather's going
to be so they know what to expect before they
launch this attack. And the meteorologist is arguing that they
shouldn't go on the day that they have planned because

(36:34):
the weather is going to be too dangerous. And this
is all based off the truth. Like in Truth, the
Allies actually delayed D Day by a day in order
to have more favorable weather. Spoiler alert for this movie,
I guess, but you're seeing like Dwight Eisenhower and the
meteorologists kind of butting heads and arguing about balancing the

(36:56):
need for swiftness and surprise versus the need to make
sure that the seas aren't going to collapse your your
ships before they can land on the beach.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
That is that is super interesting and something you don't
really consider when you think about, you know, more often time.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, this movie comes out May twenty ninth. It was
I found it very weird to see Brendan Fraser playing Eisenhower.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah. Yeah, it's because you know, Eisenhower has got a
certain kind of physique, but we also know he's preparing
to be in the New Mummy movie and that character
also has a certain kind of physique historically, so it
is interesting. It looks like he does a great job.
I don't know if I will watch this. I'm not

(37:48):
as big into war movies.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
But yeah, me neither. I think it looks like it's
a compelling story. That's one that you know isn't frequently referenced.
But yeah, so it might. It might educate people who
otherwise have never known that D Day was actually delayed
by a day. Next up, we have a trailer for
a psychological thriller called Past Life.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, this is a guy who goes through I don't
know the name of the therapy that you go through hypnotherapy,
hypnotherapy to go into his past lives to solve murders.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Apparently. Yeah, I think he's supposed to be a journalist
who's just investigating hypnotherapy. But during that process he regresses
to a past life where he witnesses a murder and
possibly is even his past self, is possibly even the murderer,

(38:50):
Like you're not entirely sure of the trailer, And then
he wants to work with law enforcement to revisit cold
cases because he's he's been this witness, And of course
everyone's like, you are insane, because that's not You're not
a witness. You weren't alive when this happened. But yeah,

(39:12):
it's an interesting twist on a thriller.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I thought, it is. Is it something that you want
to watch?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I'm curious, except that also, I'm not a Jeremy Piven fan,
and he plays the hypnotherapist, so that maybe a strike
against it in my eyes. I'm not saying for anyone else.
I'm just saying Jeremy Piven has done some things that
I was not a big fan of.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
I thought, actually, like I have already forgotten what he
looks like, So.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, he was. He was more prominent in like the
nineties and early two thousands. I always think of him
and John Cusack in a gross point blank But anyway,
this movie comes out March twenty fourth in the United States.
It comes out April sixth in the UK. And yeah,
I'll probably skip it. What about you, I'll skip it.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I don't know if I'll skip the next one, which
is we got a full trailer for the movie Normal,
which I can best describe as the cozy Expendables.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, or like Nobody if Nobody was a sheriff instead
of a cleaner for the intelligence agencies.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah. Yeah, So it's very far Go esque in that
there's this law enforcement guy who's pretty milk toasty and
then gets pulled into action and adventure.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah. I think the idea is that Bob Odenkirk is
playing this guy who he's a law enforcement officer, but
he applies to become sheriff of this tiny town called Normal,
only to find that the town is hiding like secrets.
Possibly it's possible that the entire town is in on
some sort of organized crime scheme. That's what I was

(40:57):
getting from the trailer, but that might just be me
and terming too much. Henry Winkler plays the mayor of
the town and he comes across as almost split down
the middle of warm and friendly and kind of unsettling.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, yeah, it looks fun. I enjoyed Nobody well enough.
I never watched the second one.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, I watched the first one, and I've seen clips
of the second one, but I never watched the whole thing. This.
I actually, this looks more appealing to me than Nobody
too did. It comes out April seventeenth. From why, I
understand the guy who wrote Nobody had actually written Normal first,
but didn't think he could get that made until after

(41:38):
Nobody was a big success.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
That's interesting because Fargo is like, it feels very Fargo
to me, and that's huge.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Well yeah, but I think when you're like, if you're
starting out as a filmmaker, it might be harder to
get the funding for your movie. You know, I don't
know that that many people out there. Fargo television series
did quite well, so maybe I'm wrong. But Next Week
Got You mentioned Jason Siegel earlier in the episode, We've
got a Jason Siegle vehicle here with over your Dead Body.

(42:10):
It's Jason Siegele and Tomorrow Weaving playing a couple who
goes on vacation and it becomes increasingly clear that they
kind of hate each other's guts now and then things
get worse from there.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah. In the trailer, it shows them having an argument
and then next thing you know, Jason Siegles tied up,
but not necessarily because tomorrow Weaving is off her rocker,
but because she suspects that he was about to do
the same thing to her, and so they fight about it,

(42:44):
and then you find out, yeah, they're both gunning for
each other.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, literally, they are literally gunning for each other. So
what it made me think of was like, it made
me think of a slightly zanier War of the Roses,
or the Roses as the more recent one would been
at Cover Batche and Olivia Coleman. It made me think
of like a zanier version of that, Like, let's take

(43:08):
that idea of this couple that has maybe at one
time was loving and supportive or whatever, but now it's
become just truly toxic on both ends to the point
where they don't see a way out except for killing
the other one. And then it looks like other people
get involved and that there's other threats besides each other.

(43:28):
Timothy Oliphant's in this and Juliet Lewis is also in
This comes out April twenty fourth. So did the trailer
interest you? Was this something where you're like, I might
want to see this?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
It did, but partially because it wasn't too gory. It
did feel almost tongue in cheek, right, Yeah, like tense moments,
but through a lens of irony. Also the trailer like
the not the trailer. The poster for the movie is
a play on the painting American Gothic, which I think

(44:03):
is hilarious and.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I have not seen that. I'll have to check that out.
I also think I'm interested in this. I want to
check it out. I think the roses I wasn't as
big on because it just is it felt so mean spirited.
This because of the zany nature of it, like it's
the same underlying like plot kind of, but this because

(44:30):
it was so over the top, I felt a little
bit more distance and it didn't hit me as hard,
although undeniably it's very dark humor.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, but not as dark as many of the things
that I've seen.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
So yeah, speaking of dark, you ready to go where
the spiders hang out?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Well, every time you mentioned spiders, it changes it changes
my answer, which is now no.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Well, if it makes you feel any better, they currently
vacated the Horror Hutch, have they? Yeah, they're they're vacationing
in Florida right now.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I can't yet.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I got eight postcards, but that's all from one spider.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
So is it just one spider in the whole?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I think it was the only one that learned how
to write. Okay, okay, anyway, So now here we are
in John Boy's Horror Hutch, and I gave Ariel a
little note saying that I felt that the the there's well,
there's five movies and at this time, wow, I'm sorry
about that there are five movies in the Horror Huch.
But I gave Ariel a note saying that I didn't

(45:37):
think any of the trailers were too intense or too
scary for her. So did you get a chance one
of them? You sent me? But did you get a
chance to watch these?

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I you know, I was running later on my prep today,
so I skimmed through them.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Okay, all right, well then we'll go. We'll go try
and keep this pretty quick. First up is Rows of Nevada,
which is more like a mystery than a horror movie,
kind of ghost ship sort of thing. I don't actually
want to talk about it too much because I read
up on what this is and I feel like it's

(46:12):
the kind of thing that you want to have unfold
as you watch the movie, as opposed to knowing about
it ahead of time. But in short, there is this
seaside community, a fishing boat that's been missing for decades
shows up, and then some people in the town who
are kind of in desperate situation, like they're just they

(46:34):
haven't been able to make a living end up deciding
to become crew on this boat and take it back out,
and then weird stuff happens, and that's all I'm gonna say.
I will say. Also, the film style of this teaser
feels very dated. Yeah, it feels like it came out
of like maybe the early eighties or something.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, it rides a line between like found footage and
documentary almost for me.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
For feel Yeah, it kind of reminded me also of
like the was it called vignetted. It's it's when you've
matted the frame where you make it's not the regular
aspect ratio that we associate with movies. It's been framed
in a bit like the Lighthouse was like that, and
this this trailer at least had that effect going forward.

(47:22):
I don't know if that's the way the whole movie is,
but I got that sense. It comes out June nineteenth.
Kind of gave me a little bit of a hindline
kind of feel for part of it. But I don't
want to say more because then I would be spoiling stuff.
Next up, we have a trailer for a movie called
Slanted that might have been the most disturbing out of

(47:42):
all the trailers I saw for this.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
It was the most disturbing. I did eventually nope out
of that one because there was some body.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
There is a little body horror. Yeah, there's some body
horror in it. So it's it's like the substance, but
where the substance was. An ajing model takes this drug
that gives her beauty and youth at great expense. In
this case, it's a young Asian woman. She's high school student,

(48:13):
young Asian high school student who feels ostracized and targeted
by racists, and she kind of feels like the world
around her doesn't accept her because she's Asian and she's
in a Caucasian community, and she really wants to be
prom queen, but she knows that no one's going to

(48:33):
vote for her. And then there's this weird guy who
shows up who has a clinic where he says that
he can give her a treatment to change her appearance
and essentially make her white. That's what this is. It's like,
it's about undergoing a surgical procedure to no longer be Asian.
So there's elements of body horror, family trauma because obviously

(48:55):
her family is deeply hurt by her decision. You know,
there's lots of you know, high school like politics and
social group politics sort of stuff. It looks super dark.
A lot of social commentary clearly is in. This movie
comes out March thirteenth, and yes there is there is.

(49:18):
There are body horror elements, which is why aerial Nope, doubt.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, I mean it does like interesting. I like McKenna grace.
The acting looks good. Yeah, I'll have to I'll have
to read some common sense media to discern if I
could handle that one.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, I'm I kind of want to read a review
just to make sure that it's the messaging is handled well,
because I'm like, this could be a really dark but
thoughtful kind of take on this othering, you know, or
it could feel very exploitative. So I want to I

(49:55):
don't want to. I don't want to support art that
perhaps is well meaning but misses the mark entirely, you know.
Next up, we have The Gates. This is partially notable
because it is one of the late James Vanderbeek's final projects.

(50:15):
The basic plot is that a group of young black
men are going to have a boys' night out. They
get stuck in standstill traffic on the highway. There is
an exit that they can take, but they don't know
where it goes. They just figure we'll take the exit,
reconnect with the highway later on, and then go on
our merry way. Except the exit leads them to a

(50:36):
gated community like more like a compound than a community,
and the gates closed. But then a woman drives up.
She clearly has a way of going in, and she
asks them if they want to go into and they
say yes, so they just follow her in, but they
can't get back out again, so they circle back to
the house and then they see this man played by
James Vanderbeek kill the woman who let the men like

(51:00):
they're looking through the window and they see it happen.
But then he sees that they see, and then we
get a whole survival element of can they get out
of this compound? It becomes clear that James Vanderbeek's character
is like a corrupt religious leader, maybe a cult leader
maybe you know, maybe it's just like you know, extremists
or whatever, and so he's used to being able to

(51:24):
act with impunity because he's revered in this community he's created.
Comes out March thirteenth, looks really dark. It's an interesting concept,
and I don't know if it will actually be a
good movie. I suspect that it's getting a somewhat small

(51:45):
theatrical release. This is very cynical of me, but I
suspect James Vanderbeek's passing is what gave it kind of
the momentum to get a theatrical release, because when I
was watching the trailer, I was thinking I could easily
see this as being one of those straight to digital
kind of projects. Not that I don't think it would

(52:06):
benefit from the big screen, but I don't know if
it would have landed those deals without the tragedy of
James vanderbeek passing. Away.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
It really was. He seems like such a nice guy.
But I do think that this movie leans heavy, heavily
on the suspense of it, like tense, tense moments and suspense,
and I.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Do like that. Yeah, this definitely has more elements of
thriller than like slasher horror or anything like that. Like
I think of movies like what was the one with
Hugh Grant? Was it heredic?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I think it was herodic, Like that one was a
super tense movie and I really enjoyed it for what
it was. Heredic. Okay, next up, we have a series
and actually it's a reboot. It's Girl from Nowhere the reset.
So Girl from Nowhere is a tie and thoughtology mystery
kind of supernatural series where this young woman student again

(53:06):
a high school student, shows up at schools where she
uncovers like lies and hypocrisy and all these scandals that
were hidden beneath the surface. She unearths them and then
everyone has to deal with them, and it eventually turns
out that she's an immortal entity that takes the form
of a young girl who then goes in and does

(53:28):
these things so that people can't just hide behind the
safety of their secrecy. The original series came out in
twenty eighteen. Now we have a reboot of that series
coming to Netflix on March seventh. Looks pretty good. I
want to say that we might have even talked about

(53:48):
a girl from Nowhere in a previous episode way back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Maybe it is interesting. Becky Armstrong, who is the lead
in It, is so beautiful that I almost got in
Canny Valley for a second. I was like, is this
an AI actor?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah? Yeah, No, that's that's high praise. Indeed, you you
look so good we thought a robot made you.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yes, And the last trailer is one that you sent me.
So did you actually watch this or did you just
send it to me because you're like you started watching it?
They thought Jonathan needs to see this.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
That's what I did.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Okay, it's the Yeddie. This is a creature feature. I
thought you would dick it because it's a monster movie.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
I mean I did. There was some really scary stuff
in there that felt more traditional horror than monster like.
I made it halfway through the trailer and then I
skimmed the rest. I don't I must have missed where
they showed the yetdie.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah, you get to see like silhouettes kind of a
part of the eddie, and you get to see its
massive footprint at one point. Yeah, it's set in Alaska
in like nineteen forty seven, but it's it's wild because
it is a creature feature, and it's like a throwback
to movies where you have like a band of adventurers

(55:07):
who are trying to track this down. The story is
that two famous people have gone missing, and the children
of those famous people, who are themselves adults, are trying
to track down their missing family members while also trying
to find this mysterious creature. And it's kind of like
one of those things with a heist movie where each

(55:28):
character has their specific role. Also, one of the characters,
which in the trailer is referenced as the Watchdog, made
me think of a character from Boardwalk Empire because he
has like a half face mask on that mimics a
human face, and I think it's Richard Harrow in Boardwalk Empire.
That character has a very almost identical kind of face

(55:52):
mask on, to the point where I was like, did
you just get hold of the Boardwalk Empire mask and
use that? But the cast also includes William Sadler whom
I adore. I think William Sadler is an insanely underrated
character actor. I think he was death in The Bill

(56:14):
and Ted Movies.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, yeah, he's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, I love him. And Corbyn Burnson's in it. Jim
Cummings is in It comes out on April tenth, according
to IMDb. At least.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yeah. I again, I turned it on because I do
like creature features, and then I was like, I don't,
I don't know, this might be too scary.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
This one also felt like it like it felt like
they were purposefully baking it in a way that evokes
an older style of filmmaking.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yes, yes, I did like that very much because it
didn't feel like it was super low budget cheesy old.
But it did feel old.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, it feels like you. It feels like you could
have uncovered this from like the golden age of creat features.
It's like maybe the fifties or sixties, except obviously updated.
Like it. It wasn't a perfect thing where like, oh
it's like lifted out of time. This was a lost film,
but it it pays homage to a lot of the

(57:14):
filmmaking techniques of those movies.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
For sure. Well, uh, I think I've spent enough time
in your horror Hutch.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah, let's get out of here before the spiders get
back from vacation.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Okay, now we're now we're out.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
We can talk about our show notes, and I'm gonna
let Ariel talk a lot more because I talked a
whole bunch since I had five hole movies in that. Cool.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
We'll see how good I do at the talk dues.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I mean, you know me, I'm gonna bust in anyway.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
So the first trailer we've got, and uh, you know
we are. It's a shorter line up. We aren't going
to spend a huge amount of time on it, probably
now I've chinsed it and we will. But the first
trailer we've got is for The Mandalorian, and grogu of
trailer is out. I honestly forgot that Pedro Pascal played

(58:05):
the Mandalorian until they show his face in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Oh well, they kept him. They kept him masked for
so long in the series. Yeah, like that. At the
point when I was watching The Mandalorian, I didn't know
who Pedro Pascal was. Like, I wasn't familiar with his work.
I didn't even realize at the time when I watched
the first Actually, like I think most of the first season,
I didn't realize, oh I've seen him on Broadway. I

(58:30):
had not made that connection, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
The trailer it looks like story wise, it's got the
same charming beats as the television show did. But there
are several creatures in this movie that could be practical
effects that are not, and I think the trailer suffers
for it.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Hmm, that's a good point. Yeah, there there's there are
huts in this like Job of the Hut. In fact,
I think it's the Sun of Job of the Hut
is one of the characters that the Mandalorian faces off against.
The general plot seems to be that the New Republic
is recruiting the Mandalorian to help kind of fight former

(59:17):
imperial officers who are now like warlords across the galaxy.
I don't know how that also ties in with the Huts,
who are gangsters right their crime overlords not war lords,
But yeah, it has you know, it's got a lot
of the charm of the show, you know. I don't know.

(59:39):
I still don't know if I want to see it. Like,
I don't think it looks bad. I just feel like
I've been burnt out on Star Wars unless it's just
something truly special, like even the stuff that I've heard
I need to watch. I just haven't been able to
work up the motivation to watch, like and Or everyone
tells me. Besides Ariel, everyone tells me that and Door's

(01:00:01):
the best Star Wars thing in ages, and I haven't
seen it. Now, Ariel tells me, and Door is Poopoo Kaca,
and I shouldn't watch.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Not what I say. I am so glad for the
people who love it. It's a prequel to Rogue one,
so I know how it ends.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
There are several characters in it who do make appearances
in later Star Wars properties. I just the beginning was
very slow. They released the first three episodes at the
same time, and they really needed to because it was
a slog for me personally to get through. By the
time I got to the end of season one, where
things were actually picking up, I kind of didn't care anymore.

(01:00:39):
There were just a bunch of characters I just didn't
care about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's why she summarized it by saying Poopoo Coca to me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah, that's not the same thing, but I am so
glad that other people enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Great, even with the Mandalorian. I watched the first two
seasons and maybe the No. I didn't watch the third season.
I watched the Book of Boba Fet, which had a
couple of a couple of Mandalorian episodes disguised as Book
of Boba Fet episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
In there was such a whiff. There's some really good moments,
but as.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
A whole it was no. It was yeah, no, the
the good was outweighed by the not so good. In
Boot it was, which is really upsetting because there were
some characters in there I loved and I wanted to
see so much more of them, And the one I
didn't want to see the most was Boba Fet because
he was boring me. But uh, like, he's so he's

(01:01:37):
like Hamlet, He's so slow to action that you're like,
come on, man, I realized that you think everybody should
just treat you with respect, but you have to earn it, buddy. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
I also wouldn't have minded if they had made his
past and his present two separate stories.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Or seasons instead of cutting back and forth. Yeah. Yeah,
it did get a little conf using at times. Well,
the Mandalorian consistently, at least the first two seasons was
consistently a more entertaining show for me. But I never
watched the third one, and so that may be part
of why I don't feel a strong need to see this.

(01:02:15):
I don't think it looks bad, you know. I think
it looks a little more slick than I typically associate
with Star Wars. But the same was true with both
the prequels and the sequels. So that's an old stupid
Jonathan problem.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I mean, I don't like the CGI. I mean, I
understand that some things work better in CGI, but they
felt very cartoony, which felt a little out of place
for me. Also, if Grogu does not speak a full
sentence in a very white voice, I will be very sad.
I did watch season three. Some of the episodes were fantastic,
and some of them were like really.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
But it's okay. Well, we are now moving on to
our trailer for Bridgerton Season four, part two. If you remember,
my biggest complaint about the trailer for season four part
one was that it's just Cinderella. It's just Cinderella, and
now we're just going to have to watch Cinderella. But

(01:03:13):
Season four, Part two is the way it's framed in
the trailer. At least, my interpretation was, this is really
about the social difficulty of people from two very different
classes falling in love with one another, and society does
not want their union to happen because of the social norms.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah, it does. I've spoken with some friends who have
read the books, which they're like, yeah, Chapter four is
basically Cinderella, but it does veer a little bit. I
haven't watched it yet. My friends seem to like it.
That's what I got to say about that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
And then you put the trailer on here because I
was saying I wasn't the one who did it. I
was thoughting you had a lot to say about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
The costumes are really nice, well, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Like everyone looks like they're like. The costumes always kind
of throw me too, because there's such a mix of
modern and historical. And I know that that's like, that's
like the esthetic of the yeah, of the series, But
because I have never watched the series, it's still a
shock to me when I see it because I'm like, whoa,
that's way on a place. Oh yeah, no, they know
that it's supposed to be like that I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Think this see the trailer for the season bothers me
more than the others because I haven't read the books.
I've heard about them, you know, vicariously through other people.
Because the character that it's focusing on benefit I think
his name is already is kind of bucking societal norms
when we get into his season, because each season kind
of focuses on a different child or two primarily.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
And then his family say, oh, you have to settle down,
and then he finds somebody who who he thinks fits
within his social class, which feels weird because I don't know,
like why you already were happy where you were and
then uh, and then she isn't and then it's this

(01:05:08):
big thing. I'm like, but he was already there, so
like that's where he started. Yeah, it feels like there
isn't growth there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Gotcha, Like it's like you haven't early progressed at all. Uh. Yeah,
I mean I will say this, like again, having never
watched the series, it looks really pretty. I just I
just have never fallen into that that particular fandom.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
It's pretty and in a vacuum. The orchestrated versions of
modern pop songs are very pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Yeah. Also hear it gets real schmecksy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
It does get very schmexy. Yeah, it does. It's a
cheesy romance story. That's that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
And that's fine. There's there's a place for that. I
got no complaints. I'm glad that it has a fandom.
I will say, whenever they do big Bridgerton themed event
at the venue across the street from me, it's a
total pain in the tukus.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
There's people parking everywhere and then you're like trying to
cross the street without hitting someone in a corset. Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
I do like historical drama, and I don't even mind
historical romance, but Bridgerton is it kind of at the
bottom of the list for me. However, I loved Queen Charlotte.
Queen Charlotte, I like the story of King George, the
madness of King George, and so the Queen Charlotte story
I felt cambled it with a lot of heart, and
I liked that a lot better.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Well, this starts February twenty sixth, so real soon. Friend
of this show, shay Lee, by the way, told me
the same thing about Queen Charlotte. She was like, I
don't think the Bridgerton's for you, but I think you
actually would like Queen Charlotte because it's very sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Yeah. I mean there's a little bit of schmecksy in it,
which I know, isn't it such a problem for you?
But it is very It is very sweet, and it
deals with you know, the historical man is King George
to actually had uh had some issues, and then just
the the balance of having to deal with that and
also having to like step into ruling a country. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yeah, supporting someone that you truly love as they are
going through a decline while also trying to shoulder their responsibilities.
I mean that's a big story.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah, I mean, especially when you're a woman in that era.
And also the treatments for that kind of ailment are
not nice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, pretty barbaric.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Yeah, so yeah, I recommend Queen Charlotte to you. See,
we did have stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
It well, you know, you know it's also barbaric though, right,
all barbarians, mall girls are barbaric.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Oh are you skipping our next one?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
What is?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
You're right, I forgot about the AI.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
But no, we'll talk We'll talk about mal girls First
and Girls are Barbaric.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Yeah, we talked about a teaser for this movie a
couple months back, I think, but we got a full
trailer for Forbidden Fruits, which I wrote down is this
is kind of like the gen Z version of the Craft,
although it's it remains to be seen whether or not
there's any actual witchcraft in it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Yeah, it seems like the main girls are doing performative witchcraft,
like the astrological uh friend of show, She's gonna smack me,
but like very like trendy stuff like for looks and
to be cool. And then this new girl comes in
and is like maybe a little bit more legit. I

(01:08:35):
never watched the Craft. This is not super my kind
of story. I forgot we had even talked about the teaser.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
So yeah, well, in the teaser, if I'm if I'm
I could be mixing this up with a different movie.
But in the teaser, what the feeling I got was
that they are part of this sort of cult like coven,
these three girls, and this new girl comes in and
they very mean girls ish invite her to become part

(01:09:05):
of the group, but that the implication is that they
intend to make her a sacrifice and so she's actually
being groomed to be a victim. But this trailer gives
a totally different feel where it's like they invite this
girl into their group and then she starts to kind
of become the queen Bee, like she's displacing the current

(01:09:29):
kind of head of the triad and that so it
made me think of movies like Heather's Mean Girls, a
little bit of the Craft. Friend of the show shay
Ley's told me that those are actually all the same movie,
and I'm just being mistaken. I did find an actual
premise written out, and it echoes what you were saying, Ariel.
The premise I read says, quote free Eden, which is

(01:09:52):
the name of a store in them All. Free Eden.
Employee Apple secretly runs a witchy femme cult in the
base of the mall's store after hours with fellow quote
unquote fruits, cherry and fig But when new Hire Pumpkin
challenges their performative sisterhood, the women are forced to face

(01:10:14):
their own poisons or succumb to a bloody fate end quote.
And this is actually based off a stage play which
I did not know until I looked into it. Comes
out March twenty seventh. I kind of like this. I mean,
it does fall into the same kind of heavy handed
criticism of performative behaviors that other films do. Like it's

(01:10:38):
kind of hard to call people out on being performative
without also coming across as being very heavy handed.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
But I did enjoy I enjoyed the preview. I thought,
I was like, this looks entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
It also looks a little scary, like it could border
on a horror hutch piece.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I feel like, yeah, it probably could be, like right
on that. I think it also falls into the thriller
like thriller comedy or maybe comedy is too strong a word.
Thriller but with humor.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I find humorous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Artificial intelligence and its potential threat to humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yeah, no, yes, I was trying to come up with
a segue, but it didn't work because it doesn't mirror.
I find it more frustrating than anything for multiple reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I find it genuinely disturbing. I find more like the
human pursuit of creating AI to be genuinely disturbing because
when you hear people who are in charge of companies
that are developing AI say, yeah, we're not really sure
how this is going to turn out. It makes me

(01:11:51):
think you are being so wildly irresponsible. And I understand
that there are other countries that are also pursuing this goal,
and the fear is whichever country gets it is going
to have like a massive leg up on everybody else.
And so therefore you're like, well, we have to do
it because if we don't do it, they're gonna do it,

(01:12:12):
and if they do it, then they're gonna lord it
over us. I get all that, but when you're also like, oh,
and also this could kill everybody, there's a problem there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's not that so as a kid,
I loved stories that had AI right Like, I thought
it was interesting or scary or exciting, and now it's
just so frustrating. But part of it is because a
lot of what we call artificial intelligence right now is
not it's not intelligence, it's pattern recognition.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
So it's pattern recognition that is like destroying our environment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah. So what we're talking about, because I don't think
we've even mentioned the title of it, it's an actual
documentary that's coming out. It's called the AI doc or
How I Became an Apollo Apollaloptimy So a podcast a
puckal Optimist. Yes, I'm sorry, hefalumpalus. Yeah. So it's a
documentary about AI and what we understand or don't understand

(01:13:11):
about AI, and it includes interviews with people who are
critical about the development of especially a general artificial intelligence.
That's that's the AI that we think of as being
as smart or smarter than a human, like able to
reason the way a human does, which we do not have.
We have AI that does, like you were saying, pattern

(01:13:33):
recognition and does it really well. But that's kind of
the extent of it, Like it's not able to do
abstract thought the way humans can, and even.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Its artistic stuff is pulled from human works.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, it's it's it's aping what has been done before.
It's not creating something new. And this documentary, the documentarian
sits down not just with critics, but with the leaders
of some of these AI comes who are pretty forward
about saying, yeah, we can't guarantee that this is going

(01:14:06):
to turn out great, and honestly, we don't really know
what's going on. And I'm like, then why do you
keep doing it? I mean, I especially for somebody like
open AI I get that they get billions of dollars
of investment, but they spend that like it's not a
profitable company. They lose tremendous amounts of money.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
I kind of keep hoping, keep hoping that it'll the
fad will die down eventually, because yes, these companies are
not profitable, and the amount of money that they would
have to spend to be are charged to become profitable.
I don't think anybody would want to pay currently. I
hope people wouldn't want to pay for AI's current capabilities.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
I think what they're hoping to do is reach a
point where AI is capable enough to become like a
necessity in various realms of life, where you don't have
to charge a huge amount for it, but it is
incorporated into everything, So all those little individual charges all
start to add up. But on top of that, even

(01:15:05):
if you're not concerned about the existential threat that AI
could potentially pull pose to humanity, even if you're like, okay, no,
we're going to be fine about that, there's no getting
around the fact that AI is dependent upon massive data
centers that in turn require huge amounts of water to
keep them cool, so they're an enormous drain on resources

(01:15:29):
wherever they're located. Also, they consume huge amounts of electricity,
and if your electricity is coming from things like natural
gas or coal or whatever, like if it's a fossil
fuel that's contributing to pollution and climate change. Like it
is such a big picture problem beyond just AI is dangerous.
Like even if AI works perfectly, it's still such a

(01:15:52):
huge tax on resources that it is still a problem
here in Georgia. And we're not alone this, but here
in Georgia there are massive political debates coming up about
data centers. You know, there are people who are protesting
that and calling out to ban data centers opening in

(01:16:13):
the state because of the the drain that would put
on local resources. So this documentary looks like it's pretty
well done. I mean, the fact that he does call
it himself an optimist at the end of it tells
me that maybe he feels better about than I do.
But maybe after I watch the documentary I'll feel that
way too. It comes out March twenty seventh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
You'll have to let me know, because watching the trailer
gave me ajita. But I do like the play on
Doctor Strangelove.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Yes, yes, me too. Doctor Strangel is one of my
favorite movies, so I just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Appreciate that, and we're going to skip to our final trailer.
I did have one other trailer that I had very
little to say about. So unless you want to talk
about season three of House of the Dragon, I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Wrote Targerian's being all targarian ish, lots of dragons and
battle scenes. But I haven't watched this, so I don't
know what's going on. Comes to HBO in June.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
That's maybe a new ruler. Yep, there we go. So
but if you like House of the Dragon, the season
three trailer has dropped.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
It comes out in June. There you go. Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Lastly, we did get a full trailer for Toy Story five. Yep,
Toy Story Retirement home.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yeah, forced retirement. Yeah. So this We talked about this
before because we had heard about what the log line was.
Where Bonnie who? So if you miss Toy Story four
and Toy Story four, Woody splits off and finds bo Peep,
who is a lost toy. But she she has embraced
that she doesn't belong to any kid, and she's also

(01:17:44):
dedicated her life to helping other toys that have been
kind of lost or abandoned. Woody ends up joining her
with that, so he no longer he doesn't come back.
In Toy Story five, Jesse has kind of taken on
Woody's role of being the leader of the toys, and
Buzz is kind of her right hand space ranger. And

(01:18:08):
then Bonnie gets a lily Pad it's like a Leapfrog tablet,
so it's a little tablet computer, and she becomes engrossed
and obsessed with screen time and the toys are neglected
as a result. So Jesse reaches out and contacts Woody
out in the wilderness. I did not realize that they

(01:18:29):
had a walkie talkie system that would work between them. Yeah,
he must not be that far away and calls for help,
and so he comes back to try and help the
other toys with this issue, and then adventure ensues.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Yeah. I kind of thought when we heard that Conan
O'Brien was going to be the voice of Smarty Pants,
that he was going to be the main antagonist. But
that's wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Yeah, is smarty Pants? Even in the trailer? He probably is?

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
And I just didn't even they show smart So I
looked up the character art they showed smarty pants very briefly.
I don't know if that character had a chance to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Hmm. I don't even know what the character looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
It's like if if it's like a precursor to a
lily pad.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The little thing it's
like it looks like almost like a little calculator toy
or something. Yep, now I'm seeing it. Yeah, kind of
like a speaking spell, but much more primitive. It's only
got like three buttons on it in a little handle. Yeah.
I do remember seeing I remember seeing that character in
the trailer, but I did not realize that that's I
had totally forgotten that Conan O'Brien was part of this. Yeah.

(01:19:49):
I think it looks fine, but Toy Story four kind
of lost me hard.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
I I haven't watched anything since Toy Story three.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
And why we still think they all think they're gonna
die and they all grab hands as they're slowly being
dropped into an incinerator.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yep, yep, very very Rackshack and Benny.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
It was a super happy, fun thing for your kids movie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Yeah, I dealt with going away to college and all
of the feels with that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
I'm glad people are still enjoying Toy Story even if
I have fallen off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Yeah, I I'll maybe I'll go see so like Toy Story.
The first Toy Story was the first movie I saw
with my partner when we just started dating. And I
had already seen it before, but she had not, and
I had to convince her to go see it because

(01:20:51):
she's like, I'm an adult woman. Why would I go
see a movie called Toy Story. You gotta trust me?
And I finally convinced her to go. And I am
not really joking when I say convincing her to go
see Toy Story gave her a better idea of who

(01:21:12):
I was, which in turn was a big stepping stone
on the way to eventually becoming engaged in getting married
and being married almost thirty years later.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
I love that. I love that. That's so wonderful. That
makes me like Toy Story one better.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
But like, even with that connection to Toy Story, I
don't know, Toy Story five just hasn't really grabbed me.
And maybe it's just that that my love is for. Honestly,
I just love the first two movies. I thought the
third movie was fine. I didn't think it was bad,

(01:21:48):
but it didn't sink into me the way the first
two films did, and really the first movie was the
most effective on me, and I think the reason for
that is just because that's how I That was my
first exposure to Pixar, apart from I might have seen
one of their short films first, but I don't remember,
but it was definitely the I mean, it was their
first feature of film, and that joy of discovery is

(01:22:11):
not something you can repeat by definition, So.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
For sure, for sure I did. I did like Toy
Story one the first time I watched it. I can't
really rewatch it myself because it's just the constant chase
feel of it. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Yeah it is. It is like it is like one big,
long chase movie. Although the tea party scene is still classic.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Yeah, it's wonderful. I enjoyed it at the time. It's
just it's not a big rewatch similar with like, you know,
things change it as you get older, like I could
used to be able to rewatch Finding Nemo. I still
love the original stage play at Animal Kingdom, which has
changed since and it's not as cool, but you know,
it's just when you're just constantly in that panic mode

(01:22:59):
in a story like it's hard to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Have the STA. Yeah, that's why they needed to have more,
like big musical numbers and break it up the way
Blues Brothers did, and then it would have been a classic.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
I've never seen Blues Brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Oh, it's so good, Ariel. It is essentially one long
chase movie, but they have big musical numbers in that
breaks it up so you don't feel like it's a
chase movie the whole way through.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Excellent. I will add it to my list. It was
already kind of their, but I will make sure that
it's not in the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
I want to be there. I want to be there
when you watch it because.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Maybe maybe the next Cabin weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Yeah, I don't. I honestly don't know if it will
resonate with you the way it does with me. But
it's I love that movie. It's so ridiculous excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Well, I look forward to watching it, and I look
forward to our next episode, but we've hit the end
of our show. Notes. Yes, and so Jonathan, if people
want to reach out to you, how would they do
that or do they get that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Well, they can do that, but the way they have
to do it is you have to convince me that
House of the Dragon is something that I should care about.
But you can't just do it by arguing with me.
You need to take a note from the other Game
of Throne story we talked about in this episode. You

(01:24:27):
have to create a live stage theater performance of setting
up House of the Dragon in a way that is
so compelling that I'm like, Okay, I'm going to give
this a shot. Now. That doesn't mean that it has
to be, you know, like the most expensive stage show
ever made. It doesn't have to have the best effects,

(01:24:50):
but I think it needs to be at least as
good as the How to Train Your Dragon show at
Epic Universe. And so if you can't accomplish that, I'm
not even interested. But once you do that and I
watch it, and assuming that I think it's pretty good,
I'll let you ask a question.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
And if you just can't imagine a Game of Thrones
stage play like I can't, I.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Can't, let me tell you there's a splash zone and
it's not just for blood.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Oh no, no, okay. You can reach out to us
on social media on threads and Facebook and Instagram. Were
larger Drink Collider that's also our discoord. You can get
the invite to our discord on our web page www
dot Larger drunk Clider dot dot com, where you can
also find all of our show notes. You can also
send us a longer email. We'd love to hear what
your favorite romance movies are, or any thoughts on the

(01:25:36):
things we've talked about or things you'd like to hear about.
Our email is Larger drawn Pod at gmail dot com.
If you like the show, tell your friends and family,
because we like geeking out with you, and we'd like
geeking out with them. And until next time. I am Aeriel.
If I were a fruit, I'd nope. I can't say that.

(01:25:59):
If she'd be a avocados.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Third Bill Avocado, I and I have been. Jonathan, I
was talking about wildfire in the splash zone. What did
you think I was talking about? Strickland. The Large Nerdron
Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,

(01:26:31):
published again. Cursed at by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
McLeod of incomptech dot com
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