LNC Will Never Be Hosted By AI

Ariel and Jonathan talk about a movie using AI to recreate a recently-departed actor to make the movie he was going to make before their health declined and how that makes them feel. They also chat about Spring geekery, the stuff they've been watching, and why the title drop video for the next Sonic the Hedgehog movie irritates them.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large End Drunk Collider podcast
podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
world around us and how very excited we are about them.
I'm aerial cast and with me is always just so wonderful.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Jonathan Strickland foolish criminal one eyebrow has the power of
a million exploding galaxies.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I I oh, I feel bad. I don't know this reference.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh there's you shouldn't. It's a it's a quote from
a goofy, juvenile comedy book that came out in like
the eighties about how to be a superhero, and it
was done by like people who had worked in the
comic books industry, but it was a parody slash satire

(00:54):
of superhero stuff, and one of them was about, how'll
you know if you're going to be a superhero, make
sure you're not too powerful, because then you'll never get
to do anything because everyone will give up as soon
as you show up. And so I had a little
comic book panel thing of this superman like superhero landing

(01:16):
and the criminal is trying to give up, and the
superheroes like, no, come on, put up a fight. It's like, no,
you'll just beat me. It's like, well, what if I
have my hand tie behind my back? No, you can
like pick up mountains. I am not going to fight you.
Well what if I have both my hands tied behind
my back and I'm blindfolded? Still? No, I was like,

(01:39):
what if I only use my left eyebrow? And so
you're only only going to use your left eyebrow? Yes? Okay,
and then it's like cook a pal and then foolish criminal.
Even one eyebrow has the power of a million exploding galaxies.
So very silly stuff. I will say. There's a lot,
like I said, a lot of juvenile humor. It is

(02:01):
also a product of the eighties. I don't I haven't
read in a really long time, but I do remember
there were quite a few jokes. There's also some dated
references in there that I don't think a modern reader
would necessarily pick up on. But I really enjoyed it
because it was just so silly and making fun of
comic book tropes. Nice.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Were you just like reading it or just feeling all
eyebrow powerful today?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh? No, No. It was one of those things where
it just it hit me this morning that quote out
of nowhere. Maybe it was because I was watching the
third episode of Invincible season four, which I'll talk about
more when we get to what we watched. I haven't
finished that episode. I started it, but you know, Invincible
is one of those shows that does fall victim to

(02:48):
the and this is the most powerful being ever known,
and here's someone even more powerful. Like wait a minute,
you just finished telling me. Yeah, but that's another comment thing.
And comic books, right, like I I have like the
big coffee table book that is like the Encyclopedia of Marvel,
which by now is incredibly out of date, but you know,

(03:10):
at the time was like a go to resource for
information about different characters in the Marvel universe. Same thing there.
Like you'll read through it and you'll come across some
character or entity that's supposedly all powerful, and then you'll
come across another one that's more powerful, and you're like,
how can something be more powerful than all powerful?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's it's just you. You you get market saturation on
powerful beings and that.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah yeah, well yeah, well, also what story do you tell? Right? Like,
if something cannot be defeated, that it's not very interesting.
You got to figure something out that's why. I think
a lot of people have find it challenging to create
compelling Superman stories because as a hero, you know, Kryptonite

(03:58):
aside Superman is is pretty difficult to take down, and
so it makes it, you know, like, you don't put
Superman up against a bunch of cat burglars that's totally unbalanced.
So yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Mean, maybe they have kryptonite claus.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Then that would make a difference, but you know, your
your average band of ne'er do wells stands no chance
against Superman, which I'm kind of hoping that with the
Green Lantern, if we get more Guy Gardner stuff, that
will get elements of Guy Gardner just being ridiculously over

(04:38):
the top with how he deals with like common criminals
because he just doesn't care as opposed to like someone
who's actually heroic.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah, I'm excited. Part of me. I'm sorry everybody.
I am on a new sleep schedule, and my body
I'm fine. Mentally, I'm more here than oftentimes, but my
body is like, yeah, on verbs, so I'm trying to
get those muted out. Yeah, I'm excited for legends, not

(05:07):
legends lanterns. Maybe I'm not here mentally as much as
I thought. I'm excited for Lanterns, and part of it
is because they haven't told us any of those answers yet.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm hopeful that it'll be a really
interesting series. I mean, obviously we're all still kind of
curious as to how the DC stuff will play out
over the course of the whole Paramount acquisition thing, which
you know, everyone's treating like it's a done deal. I
tell you, I don't know that that's going to be

(05:37):
a done deal, at least in Europe. That's going to
be complicated.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
But yeah, well I read today because I don't think
this is this in our show notes? Did you talk
about where the deal currently is? Do you have that?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I I did not put that in the notes, and
see it.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
They they've the they're promising to keep w B Paramount
and HBO all his separate entities and active, and like
promising for a certain number of movies from each for
theatrical release plus a forty five day theatrical release window.
I don't remember all the details because I didn't put
it in just because everything's been so back and forth.

(06:17):
But and I was like, oh, well, that's all really
hopeful from an actor's perspective, right, I mean that's some
of the stuff we were worried about, was everything just
becoming one studio and things being cut. And it seems
like they're saying we're not going to do that, but
then they're like, and then federal tax incentives and more
stuff in LA and I'm like, no, i want more

(06:38):
stuff in Alanta. I'm very selfish when it comes to that.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Well, and it's also like they're gonna be thousands of
people laid off because there's gonna be redundancy. I don't
care how independent they say they're going to keep the
studios at certain levels within the organization, there's going to
be redundancy and there's just gonna be a lot of
people laid off. That always stinks. I mean, like you

(07:02):
could argue that the entertainment industry in particular might have
an issue with too many layers of middle management, and
that might be true, but it still sucks to see
people get laid off.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It really does. Yeah, I guess we just got to
keep waiting to see how stuff turns out there.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yep, yep. We don't have any control over it, or
else it would not have gone this way for me.
I'm largely worried about the consolidation of media in companies
that have a bias, right, Yes, And that's what I
worry about because I'm like, I want unbiased access. I

(07:42):
want access to unbiased information or as unbiased as I
can get. And there still are outlets that have that
work very hard to try and eliminate bias from reporting,
but they're fewer and farther between than ever before, and
a lot of media outlets now become kind of loud
speakers for whatever the political perspective is of their corporate ownership,

(08:07):
and that that, to me, is something that worries me.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
And it's happening on a lot of sides of opinion.
I Yeah, I've gotten to a point where I'm like,
I have to check the media bias level of any
article that I'm reading from anywhere.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's it's a wise thing to do. Like whenever I
see something that seems to reinforce my beliefs, I'm like,
before I start jumping up and down and patting myself
on the back, I should really look into making sure
this is a reliable resource and not just not just
something that's you know, there for the click, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
For sure. I mean even with like our show notes,
we have to do that too, right, There's so many
things that are clickbait.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, oh yeah, well don't even give me. Let me
tell you the one that gets me the most now
are things that are related to Disney in general, but
Disney World and Disneyland in particular, as well as like
just just theme park. So just the other day, I
was out with friend of the show Shay Lee, and

(09:14):
I saw a headline pop up on my little like
like notifications. It's you know, if I just open up
Chrome on my phone, but I don't have it going
to any website, I get like headlines, and one of
the headlines was Dolly Parton shuts down theme park in Tennessee.

(09:37):
And I show the headline to Shay and she's like,
oh my god, are they closing Dollywood. I'm like, yes,
early by three hours because of weather. It's not like
but the way the headline is structured, it makes it
look like they're talking about like the permanent closure of
a park, but instead it was just because of weather conditions,

(10:00):
they had to close the park three hours early. And
I'm like, obviously you don't put that in the headline
because you want people to click, and you want to
try and serve as many ads as possible, so you
don't actually put the relevant information until you're like four
or five scrolls down to get to where you're like okay,
and the first the first few screens are just filler
so that you can serve as many ads as you can.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Maybe this is what has sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
No, please please. I was just gonna say, as someone
who used to write articles for websites, for a website specifically,
this really grinds my gears. And I could see it
beginning when I was writing for that website, Like it's
not the writers who wanted this to happen, but it
was the business side where it's like, well, you know,

(10:47):
web advertising is tough, Like it's hard to make money
doing web advertising, so you gotta use as much of
it as you can. You gotta saturate your content with
ads in order to be able to make it a
worthwhile return on investment. But then it makes it a
terrible experience for the user, and eventually get to a

(11:07):
point where people are just like I'm not even going
to go to that side anymore.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh for sure. I mean what I was going to say,
is like, I think this might be part of the
reason that whenever I start to read something now, my
eyes immediately start to glaze over because I'm like, just
scan for the pertinent information. And that's really bad because
it carries over to like my book reading. I used
to love reading, and one I'm very busy, so it's
hard to just stay focused on the book. But when

(11:32):
I do stay focused on the book, like, I immediately
like go into that habit of like glaze over and
look for pertinent information, which when you're reading a story
you absolutely should not do.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for one thing, you're yeah, no, totally
I agree, and I'm there with you. I've it has
changed the way I consume text, and I have to
make a conscious effort to work against that now. So yeah,
I'm one of those people who I don't immediately say

(12:03):
tech is good or bad, but I will say our
use of tech can easily go bad, and in my view,
a lot of the way we use the Internet, in
particular as a delivery mechanism, leaves a lot to be desired.
Not that I have any solutions, but boy, howdy do
I not like where things have gone.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I mean, I agree for the most part, but we
also rely on the Internet to put this show together,
so before we sound it to boomery.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, also, I am gen X, so don't come for
me with those boomer comments. My generation is never talked about.
I don't need to be lumped in with a different group.
Let's talk about something positive. So our question this week
was one that I put together, which was just what's
your favorite geeky thing that happens in the spring or

(12:57):
gee thing about the spring in general? So Ariel, did
you give this any thought?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I did? From Originally I was going to say pilot
season that's actually technically winter in early spring. But with
the change in media and platforms and streaming and releases
of stuff, pilot season isn't as much of a thing anymore,
although some some media outlets are trying to bring it back,

(13:28):
like great, we have this slate of shows that now
you get to look forward to throughout the year. But
I think the other thing is just gardening. My favorite
flowers come out in the spring. And you might say
that gardening isn't geeky, but I would wager that it is.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, why did the Netflix show about gardening not go
in our lineup? And instead of and stuff that doesn't fit.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Because that's just where I put it.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
So I love gardening, but I also hate the Georgia pollen.
Like it used to not bother me so much, but
last year in this year, man, I.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Think it was earlier this week. It might have been
three nights ago when my eyes just felt like they
were on fire, like they were stinging. And that's normally
like my allergies are not that severe when it comes
to seasonal allergies, but earlier this week it was just brutal.

(14:30):
Then we got a cold snap and some rain and
that helped a bit. But I know it's just going
to be a rough season because we're just at the
very beginning of it.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, and I have a good allergy medication that doesn't
make me too drowsy. It doesn't have bad side effects
that I got through my allergist, but it's still Actually
I use the generic brand of zizol because it's cheaper
and it's not super drowsy for me, and it worked

(15:01):
pretty well. It also helps with I used to have
spontaneous hives and if they happened to start pop and
up again. It does help with that as well, though
I wanted to help a shot. That is more information
than anybody needed to know. But hey, yeah, I'm an
open book.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I just I just showed Ariel that. Next to me
at my desk, my work desk, I have a bottle
of Children's Been a Drill, which technically I had for Timbolt,
but but I had to break into it this week
because because I could not, I couldn't find I know
I have been a dyl tablets, but they weren't in

(15:35):
any of the places where I thought they should be,
which means I probably packed them for a trip and
it's just in a bag somewhere. But anyway, all right,
Well from me, my favorite Spring thing when I was
a kid, it probably would have been Star Wars Day
if we had really made that a thing. I'm old
enough where no one was geeky and clever enough to

(15:55):
call me the fourth Star Wars Day, but if they had,
that would have been my thing as a kid. As
an adult who hates Star Wars Now, I actually said,
I really like in in Atlanta in particular, we have
a real like big patio culture and like outdoor festival
culture in the spring. I think a lot of cities do,

(16:16):
but Atlanta it's like every weekend there's at least one,
if not multiple. And I really like walking around spring
festivals and seeing things like like artists made creations and
different types of specialty foods and listening to local musicians.

(16:37):
I really dig that. I find it like it's a
nice communal atmosphere. You can see some cool stuff. You
might end up buying some art or other crafts, or
you know, buying some really cool food. So that's like
my thing because it's it's an it's an experience where
I can be around other people, but my discomfort of

(16:57):
being in a crowd doesn't typically kick in because I'm
still outside and there's plenty of places I can go
to if I start getting overwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Nice. Nice, I mean, I do like outdoor festivals as well,
and I've got like childhood memories of going to them
in the town that I currently live in, so it's
a little bit extra nostalgic. I used to go with
my mom back when we lived in my town when
I was a kid, and I live here now again,
and yeah, just going to like an outdoor arts festival

(17:28):
or food festival or food truck day or out like
all those little outdoor community things. I absolutely love.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's great, And you'll be performing at an outdoor festival
a couple of times coming up later in the spring.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well at one next weekend. Really, yeah, my band is
playing at the Cobb County Mini Renaissance Festival at the
Art Place in Marietta on the twenty eighth.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Wow. That's nice. I wish I could go, but I'll
be of state. Actually, that reminds me there won't be
an episode next week because I'll be out of state.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh okay, that's that's good to know. We've got a
lot of stuff next weekend.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
So that's that's fine. Totally. I totally forgot to tell
you because I was like, we still haven't finalized the
plans we have. We have plane tickets, so we know
when we're leaving, and we know where we're coming back,
where we're staying in the middle. That's kind of a
toss up.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, it'll be fun. It's interesting. It's the first
time that so my band often plays with like minus
one people, uh, because we're a four person band, so
we often play with three people. Usually when we play
without people, it's without me or without our violin. Player,
and this time it's without our recorder flautist, and it's

(18:50):
just an interesting dynamic. But I think we're in a
really good place and I'm very excited about it.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah. So we'll talk more about Ariel's performances later in
the spring as we get close start to it. But yeah,
so if you happen to be at the was it
the cob Renaissance Festival thing?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, it's the Cobb County I'm going to pull up
the actual name of it in case there's anybody local
who actually wants to go. It's the Cobb County Public
Services Renaissance Fair March twenty eighth, twenty twenty six at
the Art Place, eleven am to four pm. They've got
a schedule, they've got a map. The Shakespeare Tavern and

(19:29):
Center for Puppetry Arts are both performing there. Yeah, it's
going to be a fun time.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, that sounds really cute. I would totally go if
it weren't for the fact that I'll be somewhere in
the Pacific Northwest where I don't know yet, but it'll
be somewhere there. Yeah, Here's it'll be fun. All right. Well,
then let's talk about stuff we've watched since last time
we recorded, and unlike previous weeks, I watched a ton

(19:54):
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
You really did, Yeah, I had. I had one overlap
with you, vague So.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Do you want me to go first and just rattle
the room? Sure? So I did watch Good Luck, Have Fun,
Don't Die, which I liked. I said in my notes,
I said it made me think of books like fair
Night four fifty one nineteen eighty four and Brave New World.
Made me think of films like Brazil and Twelve Monkeys.

(20:22):
Maybe a little more slapstick than some of that stuff,
but definitely that that dark future plus satire kind of tone.
It was darker than I anticipated it being.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
It was. It was a little, honestly a little less
gory than I anticipated, and it was less wacky than
I expected. It wasn't that it was darker than I
expected when I watched it, but it was different satirical
than what I was prepared.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely feel that like I enjoyed it.
It just surprised me because it wasn't what I had
It wasn't what I had thought it was going to be,
but I still really liked it. Amazed that it got
made then I've now watched the first two episodes of
The Urbs, but it's on hold because after watching two,

(21:11):
I thought Becca would probably like this, So now the
timer has started on trying to find time when she
and I can watch it, and she's in the mood
to watch something, and we just haven't had that time
this week. So I've only seen the first two episodes,
but I have really enjoyed those two episodes, so I'm

(21:33):
hoping that I can get her to sit down and
watch some of it soon. I watched the first episode
of The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins. This is
the TV show where Tracy Morgan is playing a disgraced
NFL football player, Reggie Dinkins, who was kind of exiled

(21:53):
out of football for betting on himself, and Daniel Radcliffe
is playing a documentarian who who is hired to do
a documentary film about this guy. It's very silly, as
you might imagine for a Tracy Morgan helmed show or
centered show. I shouldn't say helmed, I guess, but anyways,

(22:14):
it feels like the sense of humor is kind of
similar to stuff like Stumbled and Parks and rec and
to some extent, thirty Rock. It's very silly. I enjoy it.
Then I saw the first two episodes and part of
the third for Invincible season four. It is the normal
insane mix of humor and crazy, over the top violence

(22:37):
that has been part of the series since the beginning.
I'll say this, it's still an easier watch than The Boys,
but not by a whole lot. And then I started
watching murder Bot, which Ariel talked about when she watched
it ages ago, and I'm just finally getting around to it,
and I'm very much enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
How far are you in?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Only like two episodes? I think maybe three?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
The episodes are short, though, so it's easy to watch.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
They're so short and you're like, no, don't stop there.
But it's easier for you because you aren't watching week
to week.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, I could just bene it if I wanted to think.
I think I did watch the first three. I'll say this,
he is it. The murder Bot is currently inside a
different surveyor group's base and has just been been fired upon,
and that's how that episode ended.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's a good episode. They all are. I really enjoyed
murder Bot quite a lot. Nice I also have watched
a lot, but not but like, but it's been like
an episode. So I watched an episode of Fallout, the
one where Ron Perlman shows up, which is fun and

(23:57):
good and I feel like it's moving somewhere, and I
really liked this episode. It's maybe my favorite episode so far.
There's a lot of movement. It's episode six, I think
of season two. I watched the first episode of The
Urbs finally, like my husband was like, oh, I like
The Urbs. I love that movie. I'm like, we should
maybe check this out and he was like maybe, and

(24:18):
then like the closer we got to it, he was like,
you know, but we watched it and he was like,
it's okay. It's not amazing, but it's okay. I enjoyed
it a lot more than I thought I would, because
from the trailer it looked like there was going to
be a lot of like cringey, stupid joke type humor,

(24:38):
and there was a lot less of it than I wanted.
I not wanted than I expected.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, a lot more of the humor is now watching
white people make microaggressive racist comments or actions through the
lens of the black female protagonist played by Keiky Palmer.
Who is I is astonishing. I love her in this series.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Well, I liked all the neighbors a lot, and they
said something in the first episode which was like they
pretend to be nice until they are nice, and the
very first like racist Pam character very quickly becomes very nice,
and I like, yeah, because they all.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Occasionally occasionally still says dumb stuff, but it's clearly it's
because you know, there's too much ingrained. Yeah, it's not
said out of malice, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, and she's not. And the main character, Keiki Palmer
is not the only othered kind of person in the neighborhood,
which is lovely. That's a great dynamic. The jokes that
they had were funny, and the one in the trailer
that I was like, oh, that's so dumb, like it
was something about like white women like salads or whatever.
H worked really well in the context of the show.

(25:57):
It was kind of like the D and D trailers
versus the D and D.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah yeah, where you're like, oh, this is one of
those movies where or one of these series where some
moments just don't work better out of context, like they
don't fly out of context, but within the context they're fine.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, but I found it suspenseful, I found it funny,
I found it charming at points. I think the husband
is the weakest link out of everybody in the show.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Like Jack Whitehall.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Intriguing character, Yeah, like everybody.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'll say this like when you watch, when you watch
the second episode, you might go, huh.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I mean I already am. I already am. But like,
just from an acting perspective, it's not that he's a
bad actor. I just I think that he's written a
little less compellingly than everybody else in the first episode.
I watched the latest episode of Shrinking. It's still doing
a really good job of making me laugh and making
me cry. I really like the show a lot. I

(26:58):
watched this week's dropout. Stuff dropped a new trailer for
this is not in our show notes for their next
actual play, and it's called Welcome to Purpy and it's
like a it's similar to like Meowolf. It's a weird,
eerie Indiana kind of a vibe show and they The
interesting thing about the trailer is they don't show at
least I don't think they show any of the cast.

(27:19):
It's all like eighties style grainy stock footage with voiceover,
which is interesting. So I don't know much about it
beyond it's like weird, eerie, bizarre happenings kind of thing.
I finished Ponies, and I am very upset that so

(27:39):
far they are preparing to do a season two and
seasons beyond that, but it hasn't actually been green light
yet and goddamn better well be pardon my language, otherwise
it's gonna have a very like far Scape final season ending,
which you will only get if you've watched Farskape. But
if you do, know, I don't want to spoil anything
beyond that. Continue to watch the Pit. I watched the

(28:01):
first episode of Falling Skies that like ten year old
sci fi No Wiley, and it was okay. I think
it does suffer from being ten years old.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Were you like, the Pit's not enough Noah Wiley for
me here?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well, look when we get down with Fallout in like
two more weeks, we're like, what are we going to
watch next? Well, there's like the Librarians I've heard of
before and none of us have ever seen it, which
is also No Wiley. I don't know. Uh, he's he's
a very good actor. I like him a lot. I
am on season two of One Piece already, so uh

(28:40):
it has it has grown on me. I'm quite enjoying
it and I like all the excellent It's bizarre and
weird and surprisingly dark in adulted points, but fun. And
then this this weekend, I'm going to see Come From Away,
and I'm if I can fit it in, I might
also go see Project Tail Mary.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh cool. You'll have to let me know what you
think of Come from Away. Come from Away as one
of the I haven't seen the show. I've heard a
couple of songs from it, and it's one of those
where the first time I heard the first song, I
was like, is this a joke? Because it was just
it was so sincere and like on the nose that

(29:22):
it felt like it was almost like a joke musical.
And I had no idea what it was about either, right, Like,
I just heard the beginning of the song and I'm like,
this is ridiculous. And then and then you find out
what the show's about, and you're like in the song,
like in the song, it happens and you're like, whoa, whoa,
this is heavy stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's sobriety, but who doesn't know it's the
story of there was a plane that got rerouted during
the nine to eleven attacks and had to land on
a twiny little island in Canada that barely had resources,
and how the people of that plane and that tiny
community in Canada all kind of all together to take
care of each other. So it's really interesting. It is

(30:03):
very sincere. It's also because of kind of the story
behind it. It's a very sparse staging, or at least
what I've put the clips I've seen is all very
sparse because you know, you're on a plane, you're in
a tiny town with not a lot, so there's just
not a lot on the staging. So it's very interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
You'll definitely have to let me know what you think.
Like I think the other song I heard again very sincere,
but I actually really liked it. But the opening song,
Welcome to the Rock is the name of the song.
Just I was like, this has got to be a joke, right,
this is so ridiculous, And then when it becomes clear
that it's about nine to eleven, which happens in the song,

(30:44):
I was a true.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Story, by the way, Yeah, it's a true story.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah. Anyway, you'll have to let me know what you think.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yep. Cool.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Well that's that's a lot of stuff to talk about
in our first thirty minutes of this show. Shall we
move on to our thirty seconds or less?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Sure I start?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yes, breath?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I was like, oh no, do I not start? I
do start? So I took a.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Breath to say you start. But then you were like
you were gonna start, and I was like, well, now
I'm just now I'm doing what I'm doing now, which
is derailing.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Now It's fine, back on to the railing out. I've
got a wedgie. So the Oscars happened this past weekend
and a bunch of geeky things won. Sinners took home
a bunch of awards, which not surprise Best Actor, Best
Original Screenplay, and Best Score completely and Best Cinematography completely,

(31:37):
all well deserved him. Neet won Best Actress and Weapons
one Best Supporting Actress Actress, which is interesting. Frankenstein won
a bunch of like artistic like hair makeup setting the
Law Awards, and then K Pop Demon Hunters won Best
I think Best Animated Film and also Best Song, which
is the first time for a K pop song. All

(31:59):
really cool. That is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
My turn to get railed at the Firefly panel at
Awesome Con. We finally found out what was up with
the cryptic series of Instagram reels that the podcast Once
We Were Spacemen were teasing for a couple of weeks.
Firefly is coming back as an animated series. It will
be set between the live action show and the film Serenity.
All surviving core cast members are coming back. Joss Whedon

(32:26):
gave his blessing but will not be involved.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
That's good Faaramount Pictures is not moving forward with the
g I. Joe movie with Max Landis at the Helm. Instead,
they're looking at one possibly written by Danny McBride. Yeah, yeah,
I gotta say about that.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
We don't feel too bad about that, considering Max Landis's
past and during the Me Too movement. So we found
out that the Buffy revival series will not be moving
forward at Hulu. Despite lots of science seeming to point
to an inevitable series pickup, Hulu has passed on it.
Sarah Michelle Geller is upset and said that one particular
executive just didn't get the show and essentially torpedoed the

(33:07):
whole thing. Some others say that Hulu felt the series
lacked mainstream appeal, and Hulu might try again in the
future with a different team, but for now, Buffy is
dead again.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I'm sad to hear it, but also like that's how
media works, all right. So next we have Last of
Us news. One of the show is promoting three of
their actors series regulars, which is kind of hopeful for
a show where a lot of people die. In addition
to that, Jason Ritter and Patrick Wilson are joining the
season three cast. It won't be Jason riders first time

(33:40):
on the show. He played a clicker in season one.
I think it's really cool that he gets to work
alongside his wife and sky.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Neat The Quiet Place. Is gonna go all quiet a
third time, with Emily Blunt and Kelly and Murphy returning.
Reports Variety. Jack O'Connell aka Rimick from Sinners will be
joining them as well. John Krasinski broke the news on
Instagram with the song One Last Time from Hamilton playing
in the background, which suggests this third entry might be

(34:08):
the finale for the franchise. It's slated for June thirtieth,
twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
We have a little bit more news on the Lubooboo
live action movie from Sony, which will actually be a
mixture of live action and CGI. Not surprising there. Michael
Schaeffer from The Martian and Lynchin Sheet from A Beautiful
Day in the Neighborhood, which are both amazing movies, are
serving his producers. And then ooh word. Stephen Levinson will

(34:40):
be doing the script and he's mainly known for writing
stuff for Broadway, and Paul King, who I think directed Wonka,
will be directing it as well. That is a really
interesting team to put together for this thing.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, it makes me wonder if audiences will cheer or
if they will laboo boo. All right, One thing y'all
might not know about me is I really love a
good schlocky, tournament based action movie. They don't have a
lot of plot getting in the way of the story,
as Joe Bob Briggs would say. One grand example of
this is blood Sport, which is a Jean Claude Van
Damn movie from the nineteen eighties and now nearly forty

(35:13):
years later a twenty four and Mikayla Cole of all people,
plan to revive this and write and direct the movie.
Michayla that is and I say bring it on.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Something else that I say bring it on to is
Mister Rogers. Mister Rogers Neighborhood is coming to YouTube, which
is awesome. I feel like this show holds up to
any time. You know, it's very old now and is
something that everybody can use in their life to remember
to be a little bit kinder and understanding towards.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Their neighbor right, and also to it's okay to talk
about emotions and to get a better understanding of them.
You know, yes, he did that for kids, but goodness knows,
I'm a fifty something year old dude and I still
find it helpful. Well. Netflix's upcoming Assassin's Creed television series,
based off the video game franchise, is now confirned to

(36:07):
take place in ancient Rome in the year sixty four AD.
None of the games actually take place during that time,
so this will be an original story set in the
Assassin's Creed universe, and it might mean our protagonist will
need to contend with the capricious whims of a certain
emperor named Nero Fun.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Also fun. Netflix has announced their main cast for the
live action Scooby Doo series that's upcoming McKenna Grace from
they say from Hunger Games, but I know her from
the reboot of Ghostbusters, will be playing Daphne. Blake Tanner
Hagen will be playing Shaggy. He looks perfect for the role.

(36:47):
Abby Ryder Fortson, who is the daughter in ant Man,
will be playing Velma, and Maxwell Jenkins, who is in
Lost in Space in The Bondsman, will be playing Fred.
I think that this casting means great. I think they're
all wonderful actors and they really looked apart, so looking
forward to it.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
This week, Bob Iger officially stepped down as CEO of
the Walt Disney Company for the second time, with former
Disney Experiences director Josh Tomorrow taking over. As Deadline reported,
the transition has been a fresh change of pace and
that there wasn't a massive shakeup of departing executives or
outside leadership being brought in, which gives us a little hope.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
For people who are hoping to own a bit of
Stranger Things you can do that. The complete series is
coming out on Blu Ray and four K all forty
two seasons by or forty.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Two forty two seasons jeez.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, it's available for pre order now and will release
in the UK on July twenty seventh, and then in
the US and Canada on July twenty.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
The Avengers won't just be facing off against Doctor Doom
in their next film, They'll have to go to war
with sandworms because Dune three Avenger's Doomsday. Both are currently
slated to release on December eighteenth, something that seems to
have upset some theater owners who feel that spacing the
two films apart would produce better results for the brick
and mortar theaters. But will either of them budge?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Last for me? But not last for Jonathan. Saturday Night
Live UK, which comes out tomorrow night, March My first
at ten pm UK local time, has been expanded from
six live episodes to eight live episodes. That's pretty fantastic.
The first episode is being hosted by Team Bay with
musical guest at.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Lag Yeah, which they do a great song called Shay's Long,
which I will play for Aeriel after we're done because
I love it. It's so good, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I'm excited for this again. I don't know if the
political humor will hit quite as well for UK because
I'm not as familiar with it. But MC Sheety is
a part of the cast and nominal, and I'm hoping
that the extension of the run just means that they're
really knocking it out.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Of the park. All right, Well, here we go. Here's
a bummer of a news. I am to end it on.
In twenty twenty, Kurt Verhe's cast Val Kilmer to star
in a drama titled As Deep as the Grave, but
Kilmer's failing help prevented him from working on the movie,
and he passed away in twenty twenty five. Vorhe's really
wanted Kilmer in the picture, though, so he got permission

(39:24):
from the actor's family to recreate Kilmer using generative AI
so that the actor could posthumously star in the film,
which we have feelings about.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I mean I do have feelings about, because I don't
want it to set a precedence for doing that with
a live actors. However, his family feels very strongly that
he would have wanted to continue to be a part,
because I think he did film some scenes, but he
wasn't able to do all of his scenes.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
He never ever was able to actually film a scene.
He was going to be the focus of the picture,
but he uh, he was his medical condition deteriorated before
he could actually do any work.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
He had vocal cancer, he had he had a vocal
cord cancer or throat cancer. And uh, but they had
done some filming of the movie already and they couldn't
afford to do reshootes, so they could have recast. But
I understand if not, if this is something Doogcoma was
very passionate about on a one off basis, I understand,

(40:30):
but yeah, I don't want it to set a precedent. However,
he has previously worked with AI in a film before,
and in that instance, I'm one hundred percent okay because
he lost the ability to speak from his cancer, and
so they used AI to recreate his voice while he
did the acting for Never Top Gun, And I'm okay
with that.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, I Yeah, I don't know. I I feel very conflicted,
largely because I mean, like, we work in an audio medium,
and I remember years ago when a company came forward
and asked if they could work with me to develop

(41:09):
an AI voice based off my own, and it just
immediately led me to think, well, then why would you
need me?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I mean, I fully get that, but at least in
Top Gun, Bell Kilmer was acting.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
He sure, no, I agree. I just think I just
think that the cases where you can say, oh yeah,
I understand that that's like the beginning the leading edge,
and what I worry about, and like same thing with
like using digital trickery to create grandmof Tarkin in Rogue

(41:48):
one right, like to recreate the actor who played grandmof
Tarkin who had passed away years earlier. That was for
a little cameo role. And again they got the permission
from the family and everything, Like I understand all those things.
I do think it's going to set a precedent. I
think we're going to be seeing a lot of back

(42:11):
and forth. And what'll really determine where this goes is
how ultimately the public receives it. Because if people just
refuse to watch stuff that has like AI generated actors
in it, then that als send the message of well,
it doesn't matter how good the technology is. If people
reject it, then you're not going to make any money.

(42:32):
So but if people do watch it, then that's where
things are going to go.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Now I know, well, the seg after is currently going
to the negotiating table for the contract as we're already
up on the one from the last strike. And one
of the things is that they're going to make it
as expensive, if not more expensive, to use an AI
actor in a union production, which will be a determent

(42:59):
because if you're not saving money, then it's a lot
easier to just direct an actor. And I can see
what you're saying about the full AI performance also, it'll
be very uncanny Valley. But I do think that there
is something to be said for using it as an
aid with somebody who has disability and otherwise would not
be able to still act.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I can see that. I just know that, like, if
I'm if I'm weighing it against this one instance can
help someone achieve something that otherwise they could not achieve,
versus that one instance was the gateway to lots of
other very disruptive decisions that ultimately impact an entire industry,

(43:42):
then I'm like, well, if I'm if I'm weighing those
the second one is worse. And if it means like
if it means like, yeah, I understand that this technology
would help in this one case, but if we do
that it opens the door for all this other stuff,
then maybe you have to just draw a line there.

(44:03):
As much as that sucks, right, Like, it's a tough call,
you know, because like, if you're looking at it individually
as a case by case basis, it's very clear. If
you're looking at it as a timeline, it becomes less clear.
And that's where like I tend to look as a
timeline simply because I've seen it advance so much since

(44:24):
I started working in media, and also just knowing how
a lot of media companies work where they're like, when
you get to a certain level of leadership, everything becomes numbers.
And to your point, like that's why the union is
pushing to make AI at least as expensive, if not
more so, than using human actors, because then it's a

(44:46):
number that those levels can really grapple with. But if
they're just looking at numbers and they're not thinking about
the actual impact on people, and I'll tell you this
they never do, then you could see where some decisions
will be made where it would of a negative impact
all down the whole line. So we'll see. I don't

(45:06):
mean to be all doom and gloom about it, it's
just I've seen too many media companies make bad decisions.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I mean, I get that, and I fully agree on
the business side of things. I don't trust goodwill as much,
although there are some there are some people in some
companies that really do think about their impact on people.
You know, there there are a lot of very powerful
companies that don't. But I mean, like I am an actor,

(45:34):
you know, I also don't want to get replaced by
AI and or either on the vocal side or on
the acting side. And I know some some like commercials
already use AI voices or websites or whatever because it's
cheaper and easier and quicker, and they don't have the budget,
and I like, yeah, I don't like it. Plus it,
you know, takes so much water and energy to do.

(45:57):
I guess it's it's just the like I like being
able to help somebody who's passionate about a thing and
has a limited amount of time to do it. But yeah,
I don't want it to. I don't want it to.
I don't want it to become a trend because it
worked so well. And you know, on the one hand,
like if a company uses an AI actor, that money

(46:18):
will go in towards pensions and healthcare, which could use
a boost in the union from my understanding, because I'm
not a part of the union yet just I don't
qualify it. But also on the other hand, like, don't
bolster it using fake actors and give real actors for
your opportunities. So like I do get I do get it.

(46:39):
It is it is a tricky, interesting middle ground.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, yeah, and there's this is playing out across other industries,
not just film and television. I read an article this
morning about how this self published book that came out
earlier in the UK in February is no longer going
to come out in the United States, and in fact,
the the it's no longer going to be produced in

(47:06):
the UK because it became evident that the book was written,
at least in some part by AI, and it was
just a big backlash against it. So this is something
that's playing out in numerous creative fields. And we've seen
it also with things like editing. We've seen it with
you know, actors, obviously, music summarizing stuff, and as good

(47:36):
as AI is, it's not human and if you're exposed
to a lot of it, you start to feel that.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah, And that's why I'm kind of holding out hope
that it won't replace actors because I've had a couple
of coaches say that perfection is the enemy of of humanity, right,
and if you if your AI is acting perfectly to

(48:09):
a scenario, you're not going to get those little human
things that really take somebody off guard and get them
invested in a scene. And then also like, AI actors
require a lot more directing, Yeah, to get to a
good place. You can look at the few AI commercials
that have come out and they're like not great. And

(48:31):
there's a whole guy on Instagram who's like, Okay, I'm
gonna audition this AI actor. Why can't they follow my direction?

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Mm hmmm. Yeah, Yeah, we're just not at that point.
I mean, I want to get to that. Maybe maybe
we never do. You don't know, like maybe we never
get to a point where it's indistinguishable, or maybe we do.
Like I don't want to underestimate it either, but yeah,
it's it's a complicated thing. And I can also understand

(48:59):
people who are excited by AI because maybe they had
aspirations of taking on a specific kind of project, but
they're not able to do all of it. So for example,
you know, we use music from Kevin McCloud at a
competec dot com. I say it at the end of
every episode, like he has royalty free music that you
can use as long as you credit him. But there

(49:22):
are a lot of people who aren't aware of that
kind of stuff, and they want to find music for
their their project, and they are not themselves musicians. Maybe
they don't know any musicians, maybe they know some, but
they can't afford to pay them, so they do AI
generated music. And I understand like why they go that way,
cause it's like, well, this is the thing that lets
me create my project. But uh, yeah, it's still one

(49:46):
of those tipping points that I feel really uncomfortable about.
So I totally understand like the motivations behind it, and
I know they're not all you know, it's not all
Sam Altman out there trying to push open AI as
becoming like the next biggest company in the world, despite
the fact that it hasn't made a profit and it
just burns through billions of dollars every year. But yeah,

(50:07):
I just have lots of strong opinions about it because
I am skeptical of the good it will do. Overall.
I think it makes things easier but not necessarily better.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, well, I think we're just gonna have to wait
to see what the outcome for that is.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, and maybe maybe maybe it'll turn out that this movie,
like you'll watch it and you'll think, this is exactly
the performance that Vell Kilmer would have given, and you'll
feel like and his family gave their blessing, and maybe
at that point you'll say, like, this is actually a
very sweet goodbye to an actor. And you know, it

(50:47):
would be hard for me to argue against that for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
And now let me go back to my segue. I
guess we'll just have to wait for the outcome for that.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Oh, I didn't even think about your well, because outcome
is just a word. Who would title their movie outcome?
Jonah Hill?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I think so it is? I I think so.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah. He co wrote and directed and also appears in
this It's a movie starring Keanu Reeves playing an actor
within the movie named Reef Hawk, who had a trouble
He was addicted to heroin and he leaves acting for

(51:32):
several years to kind of focus on getting his life
back together, and then his crisis lawyer played by Jonah Hill,
calls him up to say that somebody claims that they
have a video that has something incriminating on it. Involving
Reeve Hawk and they're blackmailing him, and the rest of
the movie is Reef Hawk and his team trying to

(51:54):
get a handle on the situation.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah. I completely did not even recognize Joannahill. This is
our stuff that what not really does not sort of
kind of fit section. By the way, Yes, yeah, I
didn't recognize him in the trailer at all. It is
It's got a huge cast in it. It honestly looks
kind of touching, and it's an interesting role for Keanu Reeves.

(52:18):
I'm I really like him in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah, yeah, because he comes across as someone who is
aware that he's been a terrible person, but not he
doesn't fully understand how he's been terrible to other people
because he's encouraged to go and make apologies to anyone
who might be mad at him, but because he was,

(52:44):
you know, so addicted to heroin and like in his
past he was out of control. So it's like it's
like him going and apologizing to people and they're like,
do you even know what you're apologizing for? Which makes
me think of a song, you know, they say that
I'm sorry, but I don't know what I'm sorry for.

(53:05):
And I'm like, well that's not good enough, mister. You
need to be aware of what you're apologizing for. Yeah,
you mentioned that the cast is huge. There are some
big names. Cameron Diaz, isn't it, Laverne Cox, Drew Barrymore,
David Spade, Martin scorsesey appears in this movie as an agent.
So yeah, there's a lot of a lot of big

(53:26):
names that are part of this. And yeah, it looks
like it looks like a kind of a dark comedy
sort of film comes out April tenth. Any other thoughts.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I do think it looks like a dark comedy, but
it also looks like it's got a little bit of heart.
But that just might be because Keanu Reeves is involved.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yeah, yeah, who knows, Like is this going to be
one of those where it ends in sort of a
uplifting or you know, satisfying way or is it going
to have a dark ending? Who knows? I can't go
either way. Yeah, it's hard to say.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Just like, just like Jack Ryan is uplifting, now, I
hope it's more uplifting than that.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Sometimes Jack Ryan can be uplifting. Sometimes he's uplifting a
person off the ground before they get blowed.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Up or you know, uplifting. Now, I don't have something.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
So Jack Ryan is a character created by Tom Clancy
and has been the center of several movies and series
over the years. Lots of different actors have played him,
including like Alec Baldwin and Harrison Ford have both played
Jack Ryan in the past and various projects, but John
Krasinsky has been playing him since twenty eighteen in the
TV series and now there is a film. There's a

(54:42):
continuation of that with John Krasinsky back in the role
of Jack Ryan, called Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan Ghost War
and it's an Amazon Prime original movie.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Ghost in the show. Now. I watched the first season
of Jack Ryan and it was okay, it was a lot,
but it was the story kept my interest. He didn't
watch the second season. The story didn't appeal to me
as much. But I do like John Kruzinski. I think
he's a good actor.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, Jack Ryan's like a CIA. I don't think he's
even an agent originally, he's like more like an analyst,
but he kind of finds himself pulled into operations like that.
Was the whole thing with the Hunt for October, right,
was that he was an analyst who thinks he's come

(55:32):
up with some information about potentially defecting Russian submarine captain
turns out that he's right, and so then he's put
in the middle of the action, even though he's not
really like an operations guy, except that then that just
keeps happening, like that's the whole series.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I mean, I honestly get all because beyond the first
season of Amazon Prime, I don't know that I walked.
I don't think I watched Hunt for about October. I
get it confused with the other things that I haven't watched,
like the Born movies and Da Vinci Code and National Treasure.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Well, I mean they all kind of share similarities, although
National Treasure is obviously much lighter in tone. But first
of all, I highly recommend the Hunt for October. I
think that's a very entertaining movie, and Tim Curry's in it.
But Jack Ryan Ghost War comes out May twentieth. I
thought this looked like it was well made. But I

(56:31):
have not watched any of the John Krasinski Jack Ryan stuff,
and I feel like I kind of need to because
I think I'd be entertained by it, and I have
a feeling It's the kind of thing that I would
just watch on my own because I don't think beck
It would be interested at all.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Don't think Becka would be interested. It is heavy because
it deals with some more current type topics.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Sure, yeah, no, it usually involves things like, you know,
clandestine operations in a lot of Tom Clancy stuff. It's
characters finding out that their own governments are worse than
they could have possibly imagined.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Just Season one was good, but it was very heavy.
The next thing we've got is a trailer for Wildhorse nine,
which I just find amusing considering I just finished Ponies,
which was the CIA doing spy stuff in Russia in
the seventies, and now we have Wildhorse nine, which has
a very similar vibe from the trailer.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Yeah, it's CIA doing clandestine stuff, this time on Easter
Island off the coast of Chile, in the time leading
up to a military coup in Chile which the CIA
was had some involvement with. And this is kind of
another dark comedy set in the early seventies, and it

(57:53):
features John Malkovich and Sam Rockwell playing CIA agent partners.
Malcovich's like Rockwell's mentor, and he's kind of Malcovich's I mean,
he's Malcovich. He's nuts, not as nuts as his character
in Red, not that nuts, but still pretty like, uh facetious.

(58:15):
And Steve Busimi's playing their boss who is stationed in Chile.
And it also has Parker Posey and Tom Waits in
this why'd you think of the trailer?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Parker Posey was almost unrecognizable to me. I thought it
looked good and fun, darker subject but a little bit
more lighthearted in its delivery.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, you can tell him. John Malcovich seems to be
having the time of his life, and I love Sam rockwell,
so I'll probably watch this. It comes out November sixth,
so it looks like a fun kind of dark comedy,
spy action sort of thing. And then we have the Yeah,

(58:58):
then we have the show that we alluded to earlier
in this episode about gardening.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Yeah, apparently Zach Zach galaka Nikki's now I don't know.
He mispronounces his name in the trailer and I was
trying to copy it and I failed. Zach Galifanakis is
doing a show about gardening and how we as a
society really need to hold on to the knowledge of
how to like grow plants in our own food and

(59:25):
that it's really important for, you know, the survival of society.
And it looks funny and thoughtful and a little scary
at times.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Yeah, but yeah, it's really about connecting everything, like you
were saying, like the art, the science, the humanity around
agriculture and gardening in particular is titled this is a
Gardening Show. Since we didn't mention that, but that is
the title of the show. And yeah, it looks silly

(59:59):
and it feels like Zach galavan Akis even said in interviews,
like the whole the whole reason he wanted to do
this was to learn, And so the audience gets to
learn while he is learning, and they get to see
him ask the dumb questions and to blindly stumble into

(01:00:20):
stuff as he is learning about agriculture and gardening. And
I was like, that's that sounds great. I love things
that are entertaining and educational. I love science communicators, and
even if he is not a science communicator himself, the
fact that he's going to be interacting with people who are,
I think is really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I agree. It is also interesting because there are a
few very adult jokes in the trailer, but He also
spends a lot of time with kids, because it's that
childlike wonder.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah. I love the bit where he takes a call
on an ear of corn.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, it's really cute.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I can't hear you. This is corn.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I think. I think I'm going to very much enjoy
this show and maybe learn some stuff about growing plants,
because I'm like, as much as I love planting my
spring planters, I'm only mediocre at keeping them alive.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, I hear you. I have a plant to my
left that I'm looking at right now. I have had
it for a couple of years, and it has survived
despite my best efforts not thrive, though it's consistently looking
like it's only barely hanging on. But it's only been
barely hanging on for like three years now. Yeah. The

(01:01:37):
show comes out on Netflix on April twenty second, So
it looks looks pretty cute.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
It does. It does, And that's all for our stuff
that only kind of whatnot sort of fits.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Which means we have come to that special time of
the episode where we shake our flashlight as it sputters,
where we pass that television that's tuned to the static
channel for some reason that we set foot on the

(01:02:08):
bottom step on a flight of creaky stairs as a
billion spiders swarm us and carry us up to the
top level. I'm out by, Sorry, you're you're ahead of me,
so spider Spider Cherriot, it is okay. We only have

(01:02:33):
to two movies to talk about, So I really lost.
I really had to. I really had to wind you
up because we only have two movies to talk about.
Did you watch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I did? I did half watch them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
I don't have a whole lot to say because I
don't think either of these I think both of these
are interesting ideas, and I don't know that I would
like the execution of either of them. The first one
is a thriller. It's titled Longtime Listener, and the premise
is a true crime podcaster finds herself the target of

(01:03:10):
a stalker who is a frequent call in listener to
her show, and then there's a mystery like could the
stalker actually be her partner? Could it be her manager?
Could it be this young woman who is sort of
an up and coming potential competitor who also wants to
become like a true crime podcast phenomenon. However, I will

(01:03:34):
say that the trailer made it blatantly clear that whoever
wrote this doesn't actually know how podcasts work, as the
one pointer or manager comes up to her and says,
the quarterly ratings are in, and I'm like, no, no,
they're not. You don't get ratings on a quarterly basis.
You get analytics real time, like whenever you want, Like

(01:03:55):
you don't have to wait for the quarterly ratings to
come out on your podcast. You can really use several
different tools to get analytics on your show and how
it's doing so, like they're treating podcasting like its radio,
you know, or TV.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Yeah. I was honestly kind of because the trailer we
have is on Vimeo. It's kind of surprised that you
even came across it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Well, it's only because so here's a peak behind the curtain.
I had not really found anything to put in the
horror hutch, which is unusual. I mean typically I'm like
cutting things out because there's way too many. So I
went to Bloody Disgusting dot com to see what they
had been writing about, and this was one of the

(01:04:40):
things they wrote about. And I was like, oh, why
haven't I seen this trailer. I'm like, oh, it's on Vimeo.
That's why so I watched it. It comes out April
second on AMC's All Black Network, a LLB LK network,
and then has wider release for digital rental on April third,
and maybe like everyone looks like they're doing a good job,

(01:05:00):
but it does give me that low budget digital video
shot kind of feel. Yeah, And that's what throws That's
what kind of puts me off, is that it doesn't
quite look polished enough. And I like the idea, but
the fact that they clearly don't really know how podcasting

(01:05:21):
works kind of irritates me as someone who's been doing
it since two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Totally understandable. I will say it does have a geeky
tie in because the director has acted in both Third
Rock from the Sun and The Flash, which I would
wager are both peek shows.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think you know what, again,
the premise sounds interesting to me, and I mean maybe
it's because I am a podcaster, and it's that thing
where like entertainment loves movies or shows or whatever that
are also about the business of entertainment becomes kind of
self congratulatory. The other thing that's on my list is Saturnalia,

(01:06:01):
which is a movie that's been made to kind of
mimic Italian jallo films from the seventies, like the works
of Dario Argento. Oh yeah, those are incredible, like Suspiria, isn't.
Both Suspiria's are incredible movies. They're very different, despite the

(01:06:21):
fact that one is kind of supposed to be a
remake of the other one, Really it's more like it's
more like they both took the same core idea and
then did a totally different variation on it. So I
really like both Suspiria movies, but Dario Agenta's Suspiria in
particular looks like it's a big influence on Saturnalia. So

(01:06:43):
the movie setting is in the nineteen seventies. It's a
young woman whose parents have died and she is finds
herself sent to like a girl's boarding school, and the
headmistress is like this sadistic leader who deals out corporal
punishment at the drop of a hat. There's also mysterious

(01:07:06):
men and some masked individuals running around doing who knows what.
So it's got a lot of the elements of jello,
like the lighting effects, you know, highlighting Someone's eyes, the
Gloved Attacker. That's a big thing in Jello movies. But
it feels like it's it's like a copy of a copy,
Like it feels like someone knows, like I really like Jello,

(01:07:28):
so I'm gonna take all the things I like and
try and make a movie like that. And again, it's
shot on digital, and I would argue that if you're
going to make a Jallo movie, you need to shoot
it on film because it just doesn't look right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Yeah. Also the trailer like Beyond just not looking right.
The story just only vaguely intrigued me, and then there
was a speculum and then I was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Like, ah, yeah, I'm you know, I I wanted to
like this more. Claudio Simin of Goblin did the score.
If you aren't aware, Goblin is a progressive rock band
out of Germany that did music for Dario Agino movies,
including Suspiria. So it's like it has like all the

(01:08:15):
superficial tie ins with the Yello movies of the seventies.
But it does feel like it's kind of a weak
copy to me. That's just my opinion. I have not
seen any reviews about this, so maybe it turns out
that it's way better than I'm giving it credit for,
in which case I'll own up to it. It comes

(01:08:37):
out on April twenty fourth on digital platforms, and that's it.
So let's just take the spider Elevator down and we
can get out here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
I'll go out the window.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Thanks, Okay, How yeah, the windows shattering effect that I'm
sure I put in there is going to really jush
up the pot guest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Yeah, but you know, like I tried to Spider Man
my way out, but I am just not a Spider
Man of course.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Now, no, we we had the Spider Man last week,
remember the Men. The Men's like it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Well, now we have actual Spider Man. Welcome to the
actual show and our show notes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Yeah yeah. First up, we've got a teaser for Spider
Man brand new day, and we see Peter Parker kind
of dealing with the repercussions of his choices from the
previous Spider Man movie where he made everyone forget that
he was that Peter Parker is Spider Man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Including vaguely his own body.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Yeah maybe. Yeah. So it's it's like him peeking in
on his former friends who no longer know who he is,
and seeking advice from Bruce Banner, who does not know
who he is. It's it's an interesting teaser. Also shows

(01:10:01):
the Punisher and it shows the hand Sorpion.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Scorpion. Yeah, I'm so excited. I love that actor.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
It's cool to see him see him come back because
he was in the very first Spider Man one, right,
the one with Michael Keaton as the Vulture.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
He works for the Vulture. Yeah, he was maybe in
the Easter Egg at the end, but he's also done
voices on Far Cry and he was in I Think
Better Call Saul. He's just a really phenomenal actor. So
it was either Better Saul or Breaking Bad, but he
was better.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
I like the teaser. I don't really know what's going on,
but there also seems to be a villain that can
possess people as long as it can see someone that
can shift its consciousness to them. There's this brief sequence
where it appears to go through like start at one person,
go to a second person, then go to a third person.
I have no idea what the it's about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Yeah, despite the sadness of the trailer, it kind of
leaves you a little bit hopeful at the end. There's
a little nod in the trailer where he says like,
I'm just a neighbor and the other person's like friendly neighbor,
which nods to friendly neighborhood Spider Man, which is delightful.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
You're very cute.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Yeah, we know that Daredevil has been in Spider Man
in the past. They don't show him in this trailer,
so like there's a there's a logical leap to having
Frank Castle the Punisher in it, but he feels like
a tonally so because I have watched some Punisher. He
is totally so different from Spider Man the way that

(01:11:40):
he's been portrayed in the Marvel Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah, but there is a cute bit where he's about
to let loose with a big curse word and then
Peter zaps his mouth with webbing. So it's like, that's
kind of like you're trying to have it both ways, right,
You're trying to have Frank Castle still be the gritty
character he is in his own series, but also stay
true to the more lighthearted tone of the Spider Man series.

(01:12:07):
And I'm like, I'm cool with that. I think that's fine.
I do hope Daredevil shows up in it. I mean,
the fact that the hand, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Yeah, just you know, it feels like they're tying him
into the Defenders, which are you know, slowly coming back
to Disney Pluss.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
So yeah, Jessica Jones shows up, that'd be great too.
I would love that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
That would be a hard tie in. But I mean,
Spider Man is a more street level kind of character.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, this is I think that's the big challenge this
movie faced was how can they reframe Spider Man as
being more of a street level character, because you know,
in his past outings he's had sort of more cosmic
level adventures and and yeah, that's tricky. Also, if you're
thinking that Ariel is taking off into the stratsphere, she's not.

(01:12:54):
There's just people doing long work outside her windows.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
They were here at eight am this morning, in front
of my window. They should not be back. I'm so sorry, folks.
I'm looking forward to it. I wasn't sure where they
were going to go, but I'm now I have to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Know, I have to know. I you know, I think
I feel the same way like I was, Like, I've
kind of cooled on Marvel in general, but this does
have me interested. It comes out July thirty, first, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Next, we have a trailer for Dune three and their
teaser rather and it looks okay. I've kind of cooled
on the Dune movies. The third movie, I don't I
don't know. I don't have any purchase in this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
This is an adaptation of the second Dune novel, Dune Messiah,
So it's a continuation of the series. Interesting that it's
just going to be one movie, because you know, they
famously split the first novel into two, but then the
second novel, which I think is just as long, it's
going to be a single movie. The the director has

(01:14:06):
said that this is it, like this is the last
one he's doing, that this third movie is going to
be his swan song for or sand worm song I
guess for Doune. So this one shows like Paul and Chohannie,
his lover expecting the birth of their child, while various
forces conspire to take him down because he now he's

(01:14:29):
he has the new emperor of the whole empire. That's
what happened at the end of the second movie, if
you didn't know. I think the most important thing to
note about this film is that two of my girlfriends
are in it, because Florence Pugh is in it, and
Anya Taylor Joy is in it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
I thought you were going to say, Robert Pattinson.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Robert Pattinson is not one of my girlfriends. But if
he wants to, you know, if he wants to make
out a little bit, I'm not going to say no.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I mean he pulls off Harconan pretty well, well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
He's not a Harcona. He's a he's a he's a
He's able to mask himself, he's able to change his form.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
I didn't know that anyhow, but he still he still
pulls off the look. Well, they're also samurai in this trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Well, there are so in the Dune universe. There are
all these different factions of warriors who are have various reputations.
So I think that's what you're seeing there. But yeah,
there's a lot of like giant epic formations of warrior
shots in this teaser.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I I am less familiar past the
first book for sure. If you couldn't tell, uh, it
is interesting. It is the third movie that Zendaya and
Robert Pattinson are in in current times, the O there's
the Drama and the Odyssey.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
And the it's the second Zendaya movie in a row
that we talked about on this show because she's also
obviously in Spider Man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
We had a really great interview. It was either on
Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert. I can't remember which, but
like this past week talking about the drama and Doune
and Robert Pattinson. So that was cute to check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Yeah, I am interested in learning more about this. You
know what, I watched the first Dune movie. I never
saw the second one. I've read the book, so you know,
part of it was just like, well, I've read the book.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Well, I think the second movie was better, partially because
there was just more going on, Like there was more action, right,
I had a bit better pacing, and there was we went,
We got through a lot more story in the second movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
So I liked the first movie. I liked the second
one better. I honestly thought the first movie just ended
in a really weird place.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah, and as I mentioned earlier in this episode, the
film will come out December eighteenth, right up against Avengers Doomsday.
Assuming that one our both of those movies don't change dates.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Oh, we have to, we have to write a mashup
at that time, Avengers Doomsday.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
The thought had crossed my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I mean technically you could. We did the Dune Spice
Girls mash up not too long ago. You can pop
that in at the end of this episode too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Oh my gosh, I had completely forgotten about that. Like,
after I write something and record it, it's like, well,
don't need that anymore. My brain just rewrites over it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Yeah. So that's that's all we got on some we're doing.
We're done with Dune.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Yeah, we can move on and get real savage.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Yeah. So there's a trailer for this movie called Savage House,
which is broke satire.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Well, if it's baroke, then I don't think it could
be satire. You got to fix it first.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Oh, it's it's like powdered wigs in white makeup and
and aristocracy but also gross.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Yeah, it's a it's a dark comedy set in the
seventeen hundreds in the UK during a pox outbreak and
the Jacobite Uprising. And this this noble house, led by
Sir Chauncey Savage played by Richard E. Grant and Lady
Savage played by Clairefoy, are doing their best to scrabble

(01:18:28):
together more wealth and power, and they'll they'll resort to
stuff like violence if they have to. It does look
like it's very British, like very British insensibility and humor,
dark humor. But golly, I love Richard D. Grant so
much that dude, he is a scenery chewer. There is

(01:18:48):
no piece of scenery left unchewed if he is needs setting.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
To it, which you need in this movie. I want
to want to see it, but it just looks like
it might be just a little too gross for me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Yeah, I get that. Well, here's the thing. You might
not get a chance to see it because as far
as I've seen, there's no US release date yet. There
is a UK release date of June fifth, but I
haven't seen anything for the United States yet. I'd probably
at least try to watch some of this to see
if I would gel with it. There are like some

(01:19:23):
dark comedies out of the UK where it just doesn't
like I'm like, no, there's just too much of a
cultural divide, as much of an Anglo file as I am.
I can't really get on board with this tone and
humor that does happen sometimes. But there are other times
where I'm like, oh no, this is right up my street,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Yeah, for sure, And I guess if you don't live
in the UK, there's possibly still a way to if
you're creative and resource well, you might still be able
to catch it if you have like box or something.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Yeah. I'm sure it will eventually come to us somehow.
Whether it gets a theatrical release or not, I don't know,
but maybe it'll come to digital next we come back.
We've talked about this before. We had a teaser before,
and now we have a trailer for Star Wars Mall
shadow Lord, and mall is in Darth Maul, not as in,
let's go to the mall.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Everybody stop anticipating my jokes and not anticipating my jokes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
That we could we could do. We could do a
crossover of Forbidden Fruits and Star Wars Mall Shadow Lord.
It's the different kind of mall.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Mall Rats, which only half of our listeners would remember.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
And that's why I'm going with Forbidden Fruits, a movie
that is coming out soon that I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Won't watch, but I so the The Star Wars cartoon
series are very well done. I kind of fell off
of them and this story is the least interesting of
all to me. For me, the best thing I can

(01:21:00):
say about this trailer where Darth Maul pretends to have
varying sensibilities and loyalties is that it makes me want
to play the Star Wars RPG again.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Yeah. The basic premise here is it's after the Clone Wars.
So the Clone Wars have come to an end, the
Glactic Empire is established, and Mal is trying to re
establish his criminal empire. Is trying to become a crime
lord because apparently he was that in the Clone Wars
at some point. I never watched the Clone Wars, so
I'm only kind of tangentially aware. Like in my mind,

(01:21:33):
Darth Maul's story ended when he was cut in half
in Phantom Menace, but clearly that's just where it began,
and he's also.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Looking to can fix anything.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
He's also looking to take on a new apprentice. Yeah,
getting bisected is not a fatality in the Star Wars universe.
He's looking to take on an apprentice, and of course
there's a Jedi on the run. And honestly, like I
wrote it says it continue use the long tradition of
Star Wars, which is undermining everything that was established in

(01:22:05):
the very first Star Wars movie, where you feel like, oh,
everything Obi Wan ever said was a lie based upon
how everything else plays out. So I think Star Wars
like a New Hope. I had recognized that the Empire
strikes back. A lot of people think of that as
the best movie in the whole series, and it's hard

(01:22:25):
for me to disagree. First of all, you aren't allowed
to talk anymore. But second of all, Ewok movie is trash.
But and I said that as a kid effort. I
saw it when it came out. I remember when it
came out as a kid, and I hated it. And
then I watched the sequel and I hated it more.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
The sequel was but the sequel really feels like a
continuation of Willow.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Almost the sequel kills off one of the characters that
you're you're try, you're rooting for for the entire first movie,
and then they turned around and the beginning of the
second movie kill that character off.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
I like the first one better, okay, but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
I like a New Hope. The first Star Wars movie
that's my favorite. I think Empire is probably a better movie,
but New Hope is still my favorite and so seeing
like the continuation of the Star Wars franchise where there
are more and more contradictions to what was established in
a new Hope hurts as a fan because I liked

(01:23:29):
that movie so much and there are justifications you can make,
like and they are legitimate justifications, and I can't really
argue with them, and it could just be that, you know,
it's my mistake for taking the movie at face value,
but it's still my the way I feel. So when
I watched this trailer, I was like, Yeah, this is

(01:23:49):
just doing more of the stuff that I don't like
about Star Wars. But it does come out on April sixth.
Two episodes come out on the first day, and it
will play out until Star Wars Day, May the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
I am I agree. I I have said this before.
I'm just tired of sequels prequels. But if you're interested
in it and you like the cartoons, they are well done,
I hope you super enjoy. The next trailer we have
is one that I watched the first like quarter of
and when oh this this doesn't feel like a fit,

(01:24:23):
and didn't bother watching the rest of the trailer, and
if I had I would have included it in our
show notes, but thankfully Jonathan is more steadfast than I am.
It's for a movie called The Highest Stakes. Oh shoot,
I can't remember his name.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
It stars Seth Green.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Seth Green. I was gonna be like Jamie Fox, but
it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
No, it's Seth Green tying back lay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I was seeking Jamie Kennedy, who's not Jimmy Fox.
And it's also not Seth Green.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
No. Jamie Kennedy was in the first two Scream movies, Yes,
and then Seth Green was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Look. I didn't watch Buffy or Scream until well after
they were initially popular, and so yes, I get those
two A little bit confused, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
I do it all the time. I can't really criticize you.
Everyone knows I mess up names constantly. Usually it's two
names that are similar to one another. But I have
done what you just did. Yeah, so Highest Stakes. I
can understand what you're saying, Ariel, because when you start
watching this movie or this trailer, the premise seems to
be that a group of people, a diverse group of people,

(01:25:48):
not that diverse. I think they're all white, A group
of people, one of them a woman. That's how it
makes it diverse. Four men and the woman are picked.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
It's seql to three men and a baby. There's just
been an a.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Dish, wasn't it last week where we talked about how
there was that Guy Ritchie movie where it's like two
two secret agents and a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Yes, yes, where the woman's the grays in the gray,
in the gray in the gray.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Yeah, not only that, like it's it's it doesn't just
seem like it's these these random people playing a poker game.
It's got like a B movie feel to it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Yeah, No, totally. It's got that same sort of digital
video look that I was talking about with Saturnalia. It's
got that kind of look, except this one is about, Uh,
they're mysteriously summoned to play like a high stakes poker
game where there's supposed to be like a twenty million
dollar prize purse at the end, but they realize as

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they're playing that there's more on the line than just money,
their own survivals on the line, and also weird stuff
is happening, like they try and leave and there's no
one outside, and if they try and leave, more than
that they find themselves right back inside their hotel rooms.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Little do they know that they're actually playing at the
Hotel California. If that is the twist, I'm so smart.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Now you can check out whenever you want, but you
can never leave. It's not because it's it's in. It's
supposed to be in New Orleans. But did you if
you if you start this trailer and ariel, you should
do this afterwards, Like look at the caption for New Orleans,
Louisiana because they misspelled Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
It's O R E L A N S. So it's Orleans,
New Orleans, not Nolans anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
The Also, it's not you can check out any time
you'd like it. You can cash out anytime you'd like
That should be the tagline the trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
The fact that the trailer has a typo in it
should not give you much confidence. But yeah, I think
the the high level concept is really of interesting. This idea,
this this group of people who appear to share no
commonality between them apart from playing poker, are put into
this situation. It kind of puts me into the mind

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of things like cube or saw. Yeah, it doesn't look
like it's nearly as violent as either of those things.
But but I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
It's just a trailer because it's set in New Orleans.
I think that, like my guess is that they have
made like they've all kind of separately, maybe not even
realizing it, made a deal with like a crossroad devil
for their soul.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
And yeah, it's degatory. It definitely feels like there's some
sort of devilish thing going on, like Seth Green is
either an agent of the devil or perhaps the devil himself,
but it's hard to say. Like some of the some
of the shots in the trailer show Seth Green seemingly
leading the group as they're trying to escape, so it's
it's hard to say. Based on the trailer, I do

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feel like if this were just perhaps a little more
professionally made and shot on film, I might be intrigued
enough to check it out. But at the moment, I'm
just feeling like it's missed the mark. For Me Slightly
comes out April fourteenth on digital, so maybe I'll take
a look and see what the reviews are when it
comes out, and maybe maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. But

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because I like Seth Green as an actor quite a bit.
So maybe if it's if it's well reviewed, maybe I'll
check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Even if it's poorly done and it's fun. Yeah, if
the review is good, you know that I'm for it.
Something else that is fun and almost always well done,
in my opinion, is the whole like wallet and gramas
extended universe.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Really wallet and gramas.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
You say, I said, Wallace, you did not?

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
You said wallet?

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Yes, well I stand by it now that you've pointed
it out. The wallet in gramas extended universe, of which
Sean the Sheep is a part of. And we're getting
a new shown the sheet movie, The Beast of the
Soggy Bottom Boys. I'm just gonna really lean into it now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
It's the Beast of Mossy Bottom in.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
The Easy Way and the Mossy Bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
The Beast of Mossy Bottom, in case you want to
actually look this up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Also has a mossy bottom. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Yeah, it's it's the trailer. Is it's got that, you know,
armand studios, classic humor and charm. Sheep kind of behaving
like zombies for a second. The titular monster is is
sort of a bigfoot stand in. I'm sure it'll be

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revealed to be something else by the end of.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
The movie, a giant sheep dog or something.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Yeah, it just looks like a fur ball with arms
and legs really as it's running around. But uh, it
looks super cute.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
It does. I was gonna say the monster in it
reminds me of Gossamer from Bugs Bunny, the big just
red haired because in it kind of style monster. But
I feel like this is going to very much be
like a purple flower shaggy dog story or dogs I

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don't know what they're called. We're like like the Viking story,
right where you've got all this lead up to something
scary and then it's just Hi, I'm your neighbor and
I like you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Yeah, well, we have come to the end of our episode. No,
because I want to mention that we've come to the
end of our episode. But it wouldn't be a larger
drug collider episode if there weren't some sort of technical
problem as well as people doing yard work routes at
our windows.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
So for those of you to the yard work, we're
going to have to switch days.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Yeah. Well, that's the problem is that if we do thursdays,
then we have to deal with my yard work. The
show actually came to a rinding halt because we had
that same issue where massive lag hit us out of nowhere.
But we had just finished talking about Sean the Sheep,
the Beast of Mossy Bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
The Beast with Soggy Bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Comes up, comes out September eighteenth. I think we're both
on board as saying it looks very cute.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Yeah, and now from a really cute from really cute
furry creatures too, I would say less cute furry creatures.
We got a title revealed teaser for Sonic four, which
I guess it's a little bit more than a title
revealed just proper, but also like it's not why. It

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just shows the characters we already know are in it,
and it's like something's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
And also the title is Sonic the Hedgehog four four. Yeah,
I didn't see like a subtitle or anything, right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
No, I don't think so, So how is this a
title reveal?

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
I mean, I guess, I guess. I guess in our
age we should be thankful that a sequel has the
number after it, because so many movies have just dumped that,
you know, recently.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Yeah, the miss they say, the mystery title of Sonic
the Hedgehog four has been revealed. Uh is it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
It's Sonic the Hedgehog four.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
I'm trying to film now be known as Sonic the
hedge How okay? From Polygon? This sentence is hilarious. Paramount
Pictures and Sega revealed the final title for next year's
Sonic the Hedgehog four. The film will now be known
as Sonic the Hedgehog four and not Sonic CD, Sonic
three and Knuckles Sonic the Hedgehog four coll An Episode one,
Dash Parabellum or Amy the Hedgehog, featuring.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Sonic who wrote who wrote that? Can you tell me who?

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Michael make Worther?

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Okay? Yeah. Polygon's got a lot of smart alecs on
their their site, which that, by the way, is a
compliment from me. It's not. I'm not dismissing it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
I like that, But that sentence fully encapsulates how I
feel about the fact that we got a teaser for
the title reveal.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
In a way, I respect it because it is such
a cheeky kind of trolley move, and in another way
it is kind of exasperating. But you know, I do
think it would be fun. Fun is probably too strong
a word. It'd be amusing to take someone who has
never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies, such as, oh,
I don't know me, present them with all the titles

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of all the different Fast and Furious movies and say
put these in order, because I don't think I could
do it after the first two. And I might even
get that, And I might even get the first one
wrong because the Fast and Furious and then there's Fast
and Furious.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Yeah. Well, and in fact, there is an um actually
question in this season of them actually on dropout where
they ask you to name it's I think I'm it
might be on there Couples one where they ask you
to name all of the Fast and Furious movies in order.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
I would never be able to do it. I maybe
could do the third one, because third one, I think
is Tokyo Drift, So I think I could probably do
the first well, I could do the second one, and
the third one. I don't know that I could get
the first one right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
I haven't watched any of them, but I also know
like the first one takes itself a little too seriously
and then they get fun. But I don't want to
sit through the first one to watch the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Well. It's also it's one of those series where with
each subsequent entry it becomes more ludicrously cartoonish, like people
are able to do things that you just physically cannot
do in a car just on the rag.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
The closest I've watched to Fast and Furious is Never
Stop Blowing Up, which is a Dimension twenty game where
they do some ridiculous things with cars that you shouldn't
be able to do, and some of them infuriate the DM.
But yeah, I've not watched the movies. I've been told
that they're fun and I should, but I've also not
watched the Sonic movies, where you're also about being Fast
and Furious.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
So true, it's true. Yeah, I bet there are more
Chili Dogs than the Sonic ones, which is better.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Which, by the way, I take it back. If you're
going to stick one of our old mashups on to
the end of this episode, it should not be the
Spice Girl's Dune one. It should be the Sonic the
Hedgehog Dune one, which was one of our og ones.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Was it? Holy cow? I don't have any memory of
that either. I won't be I won't be doing any
of that because it would mean I'd have to go
back and find those audio files. And also this episode's
already more than an hour and a half long.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
So but but if y'all want to if y'all want
to hear it, yes, one of one of our OG's.
If you go on our website, both of those episodes
have character art, so our episode art, so you should
be able to find it based on that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Yeah. Yeah, back in the day, this show was a
little different, and we did include mashups in pretty much
every episode. But you know, we it got longer and longer,
to the point where the mashups just it was it
was it was, it would each episode would be two
hours plus if we were to do them.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Maybe maybe we'll start pairing down in the future, or
on a quiet week we'll do a mashup. We've considered
it a couple of times recently, and then the news
has just blown up, which I am grateful for. I
am grateful that we've got so much new content coming
out and lately so many things that are like seem
a bit more original, Like I'm all for that. So
but yeah, I mean, maybe we'll take a day if

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there's enough asked for it because we've had we have
had some people say they miss our mashups and just
do like, take the list of the mashups that we've
thought of and maybe just do a week where maybe
sometime when we know that we're going to be off
further in advance, just do a bunch of mashups in
an episode.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Yeah, I have to remember how I think I always
had it where so and so has a problem. I
think that was how I started every single one. Yeah,
it's been so long since I've written one that I
was like, man, how did I do the formula? Yeah? No,
I would I wouldn't mind flexing the muscles again. It's
been I'm pretty rusty, but I would love to give
it another shot and maybe we'll maybe you know, if

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I will say this, if we did this show where
we were Patreon supported, that would be bonus content right there.
But yeah, y'all, we don't monetize this sucker at all,
so you can just get the bonus content from us straight.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Well, and I guess technically OG is wrong. OG are
video mashups, which I would love to do again if
I can ever find a videographer.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
So yeah, those were fun. I still think like our
seven Sons of the Seventh Samurai was a really good one, Yes, and.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Our reboot of or Versus Clash of the Titans was
also quite good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
It was a great visual gag. Fantastic that that one.
And the Game of Thrones muppets one was. Yeah, that
visual gag was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
I'm really proud of those. Yeah, I wish we could
have done more of them. It's just so time consuming
and just trying to find someone who can shoot and
edit video because neither of us or Aeriel's better at
it than I am. Certainly I could not do it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
I could edit video, I don't have quite the resources
to shoot it well. And I know, like we could
do something that's like vertical short level. I just have
to figure that out and do it a bit more. Really,
the big problem is my computer only does so much
video editing, and that is usually to the extent of
an audition, which I'm grateful it'll even do that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
So yeah, yeah, it's very resource intensive, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
But that you know that aside. We have come to
the end of our show for this week with high
aspirations for the future. If we can make them work.
So if you enjoyed what you listened to, or you
had thoughts on any of the many, many things we
talked about, Jonathan, how would they reach out to you?

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Well, the best way to reach out to me is
to assemble a group of friends who all have particular
abilities and skills, you know, put them in some really
cool outfits, and then you're all going to band together
and as a unit, go out and do battle with worms.
Just you know, find some worms that maybe wait for

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it to rain. Just go out there and find them
and then challenge them. Don't squish them or anything, because
that's just rude, but you know, challenge them and see
what they do. And if they put up a fight,
then you can fight back obviously. And then whoever wins
on December eighteenth, you can come to me and tell me,
like who won, just so I'll know And in the
process I'll let you ask whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Rockin if you if you have something you need to
talk to us about sooner, please reach out on social
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Oh we are Largener Drunk Collider. That is also our discord.
You can find the invite to our discord on our
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You will also have our show notes up there. If
you've got something longer to send us, do it in

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an email. Largener drumpot at gmail dot com. Thank you
to our listeners who have reached out and suggested shows
and movies recently. I know I've got a couple of
emails to respond to. This last week has been crazy.
I thought Wednesday was Thursday. So but I have seen
your email. I love it, and I'm going to respond

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to you soon, I promised, promise, But until then, and
until our next episode in two weeks, I have been
Ariel get off my lawn Caston.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
And I have been Jonathan. In two weeks, I'll be
played by an AI version of Jamie Kennedy. Strickland. The
Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin

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