“Overclocked: Clock Clock Clock” (w/ George Civeris + Sam Taggart)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look, oh, I see you my own and look over
there is that culture. Yes, goodness, lost culture, dang dung
los culture. What were you just talking about?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I was talking about something that we came up with
last week at your birthday dinner.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
And then you said I likely don't remember from being
wine drunk because we were Excuse me, is it a
crime to be wine drunk at your innocent innocent? Well?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Here, just sure, this is this is this is an
ear hit test. Ready, Matt, you were wine drunk versus Matt,
you were drunk. Wine drunk sounds sweeter, more wholesome, more fun.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Sounds like more like inoffensive.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
There's layers of misogyny.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
God towards wine moms.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yes, yes, you're not seeing the yelling blonde woman.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
You'll have to be more specific.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
She says. She says, no more idf money in politics.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh oh my gosh, she's.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Mad at she has had, Yeah, she said, And I
agree that the title wine mom is a bit misogynists are.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yes, yes, great now now now go. And she's because
there was notes of misogyny in that.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
She says, first of all, mentioning wine notes of misogyny
off the bat even ordering a.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Wine, and the misogyny is in the legs, the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
We look at the legs on her so wine, she said,
you know she's been called a wine mom. That's misogynistic.
But then she also said the following, which I found
very interesting. She said, but even though I know it's misogynistic,
I think me pointing that out only alienates people because
it makes them think they can't like say anything. You know,
it's sort of is promoting this kind of like language policing.
So she says, I know it's misogynistic, but it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm not going to willing willing to one side dark.
We're dark, Yeah, y'all dark.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
The four of us are very like that with gay
to It's like that we know it's homophobic, but we're
not gonna police.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Let it.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Grow up the way they the way they drag our girl,
Buddha Judge, the way that they're out there dragging our president.
We just let it slide. But know that in our
group there, we're all we all just in parentheses type
to each other, holding y'all's hands today.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Do you think if Buddha Judge was on I've had it?
The podcast is that she would do amazingly. Well, I've
had it.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I've had it, and you called her the screaming blonde woman,
which is its own note of missagy.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I think I wasn't willing to let slide.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I just want to say I'm on board with her.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm deeply on board with her.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Voice is always at a pretty reasonable level.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Now here's my challenge to her. What if the other
co host speaks?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Now, that's a really great point that it.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Was like, you do leave the charge.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's Princess Aisha. Yeah, that you buy girl who is
just talking and and then it always cuts to her friend.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Just My greatest fear as a podcaster is that our
podcast will be George talking and me going.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Mmmm, sort of Sophia Grace and Rosie Coder. That's me
at the Eagle bar Knight of Sam just talking and
me going mm, you don't do well a bar knight, George,
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Get his ass. Finally, wait, what are you saying back?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
What happened when he was blackout?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
He was not, he was wine blackout. The throwneck challenge
is basically to see who can just do the best
sort of like pantomime of of of oral sex.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Whoa, I realized that my pantomime, this is not the
way it usually goes when I'm out here performing the act.
But my pantomime is a lot in the shoulders. Would
you like to see me throw?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yes? I think everyone was.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'm so happy.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
This is important for film podcast being a visual media
exactly because you'd never get this back in the day
in twenty sixteen, twenty seven. Oh god, no, here we go.
Oh well this is interesting.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Just like because this is just like a Beyonce like like, well, yeah,
she was the best, she was what she was, she.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Was great, miss her.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I do no, okay, should we all go around? Well
she's back. Actually, you find out that it's on this
episode she announces act three.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
And we're the ones were the women signed? She was
like people announcing act three on that cult stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
No, but that wasn't good throwing. I was trying to
perform for you doing comedic.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
You're doing comedic. Thrown neck could be the thrown neck
challenge can be any interpretation of throwing them.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Why don't you show your throat?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
I'll go, I'll go, yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That was very a crazy jack off. That's what we
were doing on the table.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
I have a crazy jack hop phone that I think
is funny. Okay, this is what like, this is what
I say.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
It is when you're trying to when you're begging for come,
you go, you go the lips. It's in the lip.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
It's very disgusting.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I'm not hearing the begging because.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
It goes give me your comment.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I have picked up on being being the green
stop lady. Yeah, yeah, well yes, yeah. I think that's
where all these gay guys got the idea. They all
watched Gravestop Lady and we're like, I'm taking that to
the bedroom. Georgiana. Don't act for us that I saw

(05:32):
the terror.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
No, and I you wanted to do It's like, you know,
it's like scared, yeah, scared.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's a big part of giving oral sex. I think
people don't.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
That wasn't me giving oral sex. That was my impression
of someone who's a loser giving.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
That was very like you could see that they were standing.
That was interesting.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
That was I was thinking about the rest of the scene,
unlike some people who are more just sort of like
doing chuoreo.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I was just trying to show beyond that I'm available
for her. Act three World Tour because I can stand
on the back and sort.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Of so his Act three like rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's what the buzz is.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
The rumor it should be like Lincoln Park type.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
That would be fun. She should actually do have an essence.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I would love that's rock and roll period, that's rock
and roll. Of the head like he was like a
best Week ever talking head and that's rock and.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Roll and that's rock.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
The four of us would all be doing best Week ever.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I know, canagine.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'm still waiting for the call by the way already,
you know Salmon, Well, should we get into it?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Oh, one time we were asked to do.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
What was it? It was a reboot of like celebrities
like The Rich and the Fabulous, South of the Ris
the Family.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, but it was like a real like it was
like a pilot Like they were like, we're giving you
zero dollars and we are actually doing it not to
like critique the celebrities, but actually like to celebrate celebrate
well yeah, and we were like.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
We were like where do I say?

Speaker 5 (06:58):
We were like, so this doesn't sound like particularly good,
Like if we're not, like it's not like an amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Dragging them and just being like I, we all remember
where we were when we find out how rich Kylie
Jenner was, And can I say, honey, we love it?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Go off?

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah it was, it was. It was basically that.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
He was that.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But then ironically, speaking of income inequality, we were being
offered approximately one hundred and fifty dollars, so.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, total total and now look and.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Now and then they yelled at us.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well we yelled at them too.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Well as long is it speetual?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, well there has to be a little So was
full blown yelling or.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Was that just say? We were on a conference call
and I hung up?

Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's this has never happened in our did you feel
right after?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I felt amazing?

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Wait did this happen orally happened?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It's amazing? Oh I'm so I really like to know. Honestly,
I channeled my inner Jennifer Welch. I said, this is
not what the future of the Democratic Party is going
to look like. Me and Sam being paid one hundred
and fifty dollars to celebrate Kylie Jenner and I just.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
You are being the girl. I was being the girl
or being the girl. These are the girls. They're doing
their show at the Bellhouse tonight on the Yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Never introduced it.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, it's tonight and it's sold out to you guys.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Please, We're coming out on the sixteenth on the on
the This is coming out on the seven This is
coming out next week. Because it's coming out next week.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
The show was great.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sam Taggart's doing an hour at Union Hall on March eighteenth,
La March twenty fourth, April.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
First, I can't believe you just remember that stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
You remembers all kinds of you do that? Hell did
you do it?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's who sings that song?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Sounds like FKA twins.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
How do you just wear no?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Empress, you're getting your girl, Empress.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I've seen her life three times, the Empress of Yes,
Impress of one year. Her song was my number one
on Spotify. Really that year was this okay, this was
the Blood Orange. It was Blood Orange featuring Empress.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yes, it would be yeah great, great, Oh man. I
miss Laura.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Rodriga, Laura Rodriguez.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
You guys are like fact often.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
About about women.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Jennifer Well Welsh wel Welch Well knew that we met,
that we met, we met, that they were lovely, they're great.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, obviously you're so afraid I'm gonna say something negative
about them.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, no, no, but that's why we brought you guys
in to say everything. We can just go. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
They host Frankly the Superior podcast Radio Lab the crowd Superior.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Speak for yourself. I'm over here carrying still, Harry.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Still, We're gonna go. We're gonna say, We're gonna go
by alphabetical last and first names. Frankly, everyone, please welcome George.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Sais and Sam Tagert.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Wow, what an honor and a pleasure to be back.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Go ahead. The podcast has has begun.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
It's begun.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
They have a special out.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
George has his special out.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
On Amazon and Apple and it's called The Insurgency. It's
really good.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
How proud did you feel? And try not to cry
when you saw the special?

Speaker 5 (10:12):
I said, God, this is a beautiful special. Yeah no,
it was really impressive. Beautiful man doing it's a beautiful man,
just stunning. You know, a whole hour is not easy,
not easy, And to make it funny the whole time.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
We filmed it over fifteen months, and I did one
minute at a time and then we sit stood all.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Together very quid be I was getting phibbi link later,
quiby link later later they're quibi link later. Title of
that the craziest la. I was going to say that
the boys thrown neck could be but how often.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Are you You guys are both but yeah, you're both married.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
You're both married up, like like straight up wedded. So
how much do you throw neck? Don't no, don't tell me,
don't don't tell me, don't.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Plenty, there's this is not a question.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
You can constantly he said, he said a plenty.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
How often are we throwing neck? This is insane? You can't,
this is insane.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm sorry. I didn't know the pearls were available to clock.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
What's the hardest part of stand up?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
The standing or the upping?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Would rather just lay down and throw I don't know
what you guys are trying to do better, sucking cock
or doing or standing up.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't know what Reddit comment so that you guys
aren't alt enough anymore, and so you're trying to out
hold of us.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Were no one ever said that? Who's saying this?

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Whatever? We are a family friendly podcast for only married
white gay guys.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Family friendly.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
We haven't.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
You guys, we we we we really feel like you
guys kind of ran the whole gamut of gay guy
between Perfume Genius and.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Thank you for acknowledging that, because those came out in
a row and we said one end is and I
say this with respect to both.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh yeah, absolutely one end is.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Perfume Genius went and dressed Tyler Ferguson and right in
the middle of Jordan Sam Listen.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I think I think what people are forgetting to say
is that being a gig guy is a cornucopia and
we'll need all different fruits vegetables.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
In that beautiful sort of horn. Yes, that's what it is, right,
a horn, the horn of plenty.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Do you have what's going on your phone?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Just getting FaceTime? I'm getting a FaceTime video call from.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Jared FaceTime from George Santo's face.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Georg Santo should have him on.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
You guys would tear it up.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I mean, no, you can't have it.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think you guys because you're scared to be charmed.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
No, because we're scared wb'll throw neck with him. You guys,
which Republican do you guys think is the hottest?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Go Which Republican do I think is the hot And
you can say Lindsay and I do think of ladybugs
a lot, you know, the god honest Republican. I mean,
what's the lore of the ladybugs the back when Lady
G was a thing?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh yeah, we explained, and ladybugs are his lady ladybugs.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
The ladybug phrase refers to a rumor that was when
when it first was rumored that that, you know, Lady
G was a thing a ka. Lindsay Graham being on
the gay apps and everything. Ladybugs referred to a series
of beauty marks or birth marks around Lindsay Graham's I'm

(13:41):
so sorry to say it, but whole and he would
say to the gay men that he'd have sex with,
don't mind my lady bugs.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
No, we have different news sources, but.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
What's your where did you think lady bugs? I work
for Jazira.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
I was just sort of like.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
You do warm up comedy for their main late night show.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
So what you're gonna see to night?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
You just heard ladybugs as.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
I was just I thought it was like maybe his boys,
That's what I thought. Yeah, his lady But no, don't
mind my lady.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
He had lady She's proud. At least he's a legend.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
I mean, it's so like realistic, it's so believable. It's
like so tough.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I don't think anyone out here is like, oh yeah,
that's just a rumor about Lindsay Graham. I think everyone
knows he's gay.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yes, yeah, Like the Ladybug story feels very sex in
the city.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's a bit too punchy.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
A bit too Yeah, it's a little bit. Uh remember
that we all remember the episode in the City where
Miranda was eating dating a guy who wanted him, who
wanted her to eat his ass.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
That for broad Gay, I think we did.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
We did do that for Broady Gay.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
But then, but then that shot is so funny because
the guy just kept hiking his butt up into the frame.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well and then and then Carrie has a great line,
which was so the reason they were dating is because
they had bonded through food or something they watched. Miranda
dated an overeater and then the overrater.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Oh no, I don't know, Carrie.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't like again, and I remember, I'll never forget too.
It was one of the few.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
To Patrick King after he wrote that, Yes, it was
one of.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
The few times that Carrie made a joke like that,
and then whether it was Sarah just like a Parker
and they just used it, or Carrie herself laughed so
hard at her own jokes. Yeah, she was like and
then the overrated and she went and then they just
cut to the rest of the scene and I was like,
I would love to know how that felt on.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
That I I bet it was so fun.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, it was incredible.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You know what came up on my on my internet
the other day was some Chris Notes sat down for
some interview with someone just like going and going off
on s JP or whatever recently I like about and
then I just peaked at the comments. Don't know why
I thought it would be a good idea. It was
all these people and like, I guess women, but maybe
bots just being like or women bots sorry wind bots,

(16:07):
let's just say because women too, all of them being
like so glad, so glad he's telling his side of
the story.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Cancel culture is terrible.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
We've we shouldn't be damning the I was like this, No,
it's not that we canceled him. It's that five different
people came like came forward with sexual assault and you're like,
this is is this like this is where we're at anyway,
not to bring the whole room down, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
So what do you think about it? Too?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Just feels so like we like it haven't done enough totally.
Dialogue and cancel culture is back, and.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
You know it is back, but only on threads.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I'm not on threads, and I've heard threads is the
absolute demon's layer.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
There's no sense of community on threads. It's not like
how Twitter was fun back in the day.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
No, it's like they are doing I was saying, this
is the other day. They're doing like cancel culture, like
a cancel culture drag show. No one's heart, isn't it.
But they're sort of like, Okay, who are we gonna
do today? You know, let's do that that get from Glee,
Like just they pick a random person, they're like, what
what he said in twenty fifteen and then that's that's
what happens every day.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
But it's like a shortening of the cycle. But yeah,
I just hate the fucking thing. So on threads, you
can like people can like invisible ink their own words
and I'm not sure for what purpose. Yeah, like you
have to engage on another level and it's like you're
not being like provocative or even that fun with like
what you're.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
It really feels like late stage social media.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh yeah, no, absolutely, damn.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
How many more years of social media do you think
we have? I'm like three.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I think we're I think we're over clocked.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I think we're overclocked you, I think, and I think
everyone's clocked each other's tea so hard on social media
that we're overclocked. Maybe that's title of that over clocked.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Okay, SIPs tea, This is overclocked.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I hate getting tea at Starbucks. They always overclock it.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Okay, and I know you, in particular love to clock
my tea.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
I do love to clock your tea. Actually, I was
thinking something. I was clocking your tea on my way here.
I said, this is gonna be the first event with
Matal where he's not crying, and approximately six months, oh.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
My god, you clopped my tea if you overclocked his
tea because I cried the other night at Ours Novae.
I cried at Joel's wedding. I cried at Joel's wedding.
I cry everything. Stop overclocking my friends crying. I'm on
lexapro again and have cried so much already myss aren't
doing anything. I'm still crying. I'm more emotional. See here's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh, they're making you cry more.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
No, no, no, they're making me cry like a reasonable amount
where it used to be unreasonable. And of course I
knew on my way to your wedding, I was like,
I'm gonna cry.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
You were so sweet at Joel's wedding because you it
was like there should have been a camera just on you. Yeah,
and just it's like the emotional journey rather than seeing
the two men get married, just seeing your reaction.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
And trust me, I know that that is at risk
for what happened, because when I'm crying, it's kind of
I'm usually kind of the only one or I'll start
and then I'll be like, well now I'm crying, and
it's like a thing. And also we were in this wedding,
so we were in the front row, so we're getting
the pictures back and it's like everyone looking at like
Joel and JM like wow, and it's me just like
head and hands, like I'm like processing a grief in

(19:24):
real time.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's aspiracial though, like yeah, I agree, I'm jealous of it.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
To to prop up erstwhile King Dan Cook had a
pretty good stand up joke where it's like you, it's
like you cry and you like go immediately to the mirror.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, you're like, I have to watch Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Oh I love when I cry.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
I do do the like take out my phone and
try to take a picture. Yeah, I'm like, I'm really
doing it. I'm having a feeling.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, that's called going Rachel senn up mode.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah. Yeah, but you know i'd be crying.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I only cry like in movies. I'm like, I'm like,
I haven't cried in real life in so long?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Did you cry your own wedding?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
I teared up, but I was also like you know
when you're I did. I did tear up, but I
was also I held it together, and I specifically like
rehearsed my vows enough times where I was like I
can do this, and.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You're on display. It's like you just don't want to.
You feel comfortable crying in a movie because no one's
exactly overclocking you.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, no one's overclocking you.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Did you cry at yours?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
I tear it up? Yeah? I think we both teared
up and equal very tasteful amounts of we were.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Thinking about each other, not about our yah.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, and we were just thinking about like the photos
coming back, the one that got away.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
You're just thinking, I wish this was my podcast partner.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I know, And I wish I Heart was officiating. Yeah,
I wish the CEO of iHeart was officiating my wedding
instead of my stupid aunt.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
She was.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
She was just texting her because we're doing Greek Easter together,
and I'm like, best decision we ever made getting her
to officiate.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yes, are you guys at that stage now where people,
uh like even your guests, let's say, are asking you,
like you.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Guys ever hook up?

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's like about us, yes, because each other.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
This is the thing that we have been dealing with.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
They've been doing it more for us lately. Really like
I don't know what it is, but like I feel
like we've been asked in the last year, probably about
five or six times in like a public way, so
what have you what's going on? Have you guys ever kissed?
Or like, what's what's happening here?

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Interesting?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
And they're like, really, I thought all gig and none.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
That's not what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But that's like your guests are saying, well, there's a
lot of hints.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Like come on.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
No like jo.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yes, yes, yes, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I've had so many dreams about Jlo that I feel
like legitimately she's like I don't even remember, but she's
like a recurring character in my dreams, Like it'll just
be like I'm looking for a roommate and it's Jlo,
or like I'm like going to like a coffee shop
and she's there.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, I don't know what we actually were saying. We
think that she would get with our friends George George,
you would get along great.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
What about their personalities with Link Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
They're both very grounded, driven driven, Oh, great taste in film.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Great, amazing cinophiles. Yeah, and you know loves to celebration.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Both her and I love New Year's Eve. I will
say that.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
She performed at Vegas in New Year's Eve. That's how
what she loved it. She said, I want to give
and give and give.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Business was pleasures sometimes gambling.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
What what what was your favorite New Year's What was
my favorite New Year's ever? Sam and I had a
good one multiple But Maggie Windows was here like a
couple of weeks ago, Chicago one our Chicago one was crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
That was so twenty thirteen.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
I was a bad girl that night.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
You we're back, well we all were, but that was
That's the only New Years I've had where like I'm
out on the street and people are throwing.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Up yeah everywhere you saw.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
No, Chicago is like chill when it comes to drinking.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
But even like I felt myself like you know that,
it was like when you're in a dream and you
can't see all the way in front of you, Like
I've never been this level of drunk before or after,
And I was like like I could only see the
sidewalk and I would look up, but it was couldn't
see anything.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
And I felt like I was like one of the
ones that had it together.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah right, And was Jlo in that dream?

Speaker 5 (23:19):
And so Jayla was in that dream which was in
reality in Chicago in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, she was like, Sam, get up, baby, we still
have some more nights. A parting Scarlet Mama Starlette.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Do you remember when she was on Willing Grace?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes, of course.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
So she has a multi episode of arc on Will
and Grace and it's so funny and it's so good
at making fun of herself. She like makes fun of
her divorces and whatever. And one of the storylines is
that Karen writes a song called f YI I Heard Too,
a pop song, and then Jlo steals it. That's why
a perfect FYI I Heard Too? So that's a hit

(23:58):
so fun.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Now that's literally that was ahead of their time too,
because now every pop star single is like f y
I I Heard too, lowercase like b t W.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'm saying, I l U yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember
when Britney Spears was on a one Grace Yes, and
she played a right wing secretly.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Lesbian or lesbian core lesbian.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Remember Madonna who played Karen's roommate. No, that's right. A
lot of people don't remember that, but it happened.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
I'm not sure whether or not to feel like competitive
over the fact that people want you guys to kiss
and they don't care that we don't have a romance.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Because they think of us as more family values because
we're married.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I'm here publicly married and we're very.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Publicly married, and Sam is also very publicly into bears.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, but you're just thinking, like why become more bear
like I would say, but go ahead, you've gone, but
you've become more bear like.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, I've just got I'm not saying this as a
I'm not saying I'm not saying like I'm oh shucks,
but I'm I am larger now than I was when
we first started the I'm embracing it.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Taking it more space.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I would like to write a song inspired.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
By that, by me and embracing I'm going large growing I'm.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Larger now, I'm growing largery. I'm larger now, i am
growing larger. Is a song I'm growing larger, i Am
growing larger.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
In fact, that might be the title of the whole album.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
It does feel a bit erection coded.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, there's so many ways you could go with it.
That's why I like it as a concept album. I
Am growing larger. Well, in what ways you'll find twelve
and two bonus interesting?

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Oh wow?

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
You see Matt always comes up with legitimately incredible concepts.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
No, I think that's an amazing contry album. There's one
of Each song is a different One song is potentially
Pinocchio knows growing larger like learning not to.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Lie Well, I do tell bang about all my concept
albums and my albums that come up in my head
and that's post coitus. Yeah, after we after we have sex,
catch my cigarette out on him. A concept record and
he says, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Wow, what I think you should legitimately pursue this I
am on vacation. That is that the concept album is
being on vacation. There was I am on vacation, on vacation,
and that's sort of what Radical Optimism was about. That
it was ahead of my time on that one as well.
People give me such guffer saying that it's my favorite
du alipa album.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Is great, And here's what I would say looking back,
Do I think it's going to hold the cultural place
of future nostalgia? But I think to say that Radical
Optimism is like a flop era for hers.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
No no, no, no, people short sighted. We're going to
look back on it very soon, I would say, in
the next few months hopefully.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
And and.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Well, congrats to Whodini who the Billions Club? I did?
Did you.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
You joined the Billions Club and you have four gay
guys to I know we were all streaming.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Did you see what I did to do a lipa?
I got a notification. This sounds like I'm making it
up A notification that that a comment of mine was liked,
and the comment was that a week before that notification,
I had comments on a photo of do a lipa.
You are absolutely killing it, miss Chica. And I looked
up when that day was, and it was when I

(27:33):
was really jet lagged, when I had just drived in London,
and I do I now have sort of formed a
memory of it, and I do think I remember being
in my hotel room and commenting it, but I semi
I semi asleep, commented on a carousel of do a lipa.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
You are absolutely killing miss Cheeka. That's actually really culture
number eight.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
You are absolutely.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Something about being in London. Uh sort of blear eyes exactly.
You just do things that you're like and you go
into an associated state.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I really was anything you want from Europe. It's actually
a real culture number tend you can. I was doing
fit check from cam don't forgot. I know you were
clopping my tea at home to.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Do I might ever not no, I literally you know
I'm printing out every story of Mate will hate this.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
But I know you love it.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
And sometimes I'll just text him a period just so
he knows I'm watching.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Speaking about miss cheek as and pop stars and this
is pertinent to you.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Wait, clog me or me, It's still an obsession.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Are your face?

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Hate me, it's an obsession.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Love me, I hate me? Still an obsession. Lady Lady Sovereign.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Lady Sovereign is a recurring motif in Sam's work as
a comedian.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Lady Sovereign it looked like she was going the distance.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Well, I actually I am obsessed with that concept because
sometimes when I really hate something, I'm like, give me
one year, this will be my favorite thing. Like I'm like,
they are the same feeling.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Me and are hibert and you were not you?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
You clocked ugging upon article.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Three months later, we're gagging harder than I woke up.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
One day and I was like, I need this more
than anything on earth.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
She's a music.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Would not stop listening to it.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Assuming you want to.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Literally nice thirst chop is. It's like that is having
a crush. It is the er having a crush song.
I've never heard anything like it. Literally, I can't remember
the exactly, but it's like I literally used to watch
the news and now I take photos of myself genius.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
No, she's amazing.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
She's amazing.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I don't even take photos of myself, but I used
to watch the news and I don't anymore. And the
song the Chateau is great, ye, and what's the what's
the song of the Bowling Alley? I love.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Phoebe go ahead?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Sorry no, no, no, no, no, So you guys just
it just clicked one day, both of you at the same.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Time, around around the same time.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
So you that is a cooking up and.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Intimacy. What is your most intimate moment?

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Wait, this is an amazing question, and it.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Can be emotional intimacy. I'm not asking in like a
disgusting way desperate. No, I'm actually not.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
I think I mean we do like jerk off together
a question like five year olds.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
It became a joke. You guys all notice that it
became a joke. I asked, what's your most intimate moment together?

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Title of that it became a joke, became a joke. See,
they really are, they really are.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Do we have an intimate moment?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Is not what our make eye.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Response to me is It's not a moment, but there
are times when it it sinks up. And this can
happen both on stage or off stage, and it feels
like we are sharing a brain. And it's like even
when we're like on tour together and we're like planning
our day. I sometimes I think this is the way
twins are, where it's like I'll sometimes be like, I
know what Sam is in the mood for I don't

(31:10):
even have to be in the same room as him.
I know he's going to be, you know, in a
good mood, in a cranky mood, hungry, like wanting to exercise, like,
and I think that's.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
The no I love. When we're on tour, it is
like we're like a couple, yeah, and in a nice way,
except non sexually like a couple, yeah, couple.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah. So it's sort of exactly like sort of like
a cop. We're kind of like a married couple.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
We're kind of like a very couple in that we
know exactly what each other is thinking and never fuck.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
I like it too, Like I like when we're like okay,
like we will get breakfast together and then it'll be like, okay, well,
you know, maybe let's text like an hour or two.
And I know when we say that, it means we
won't see each other until like an hour for the.

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I love this is that Lady Gaga is in talks
to star in the Perfect Blue adaptation, directed by Darren Aronofsky.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I don't know how real it is. This on Vanity Fair, Chris,
our friend Chris Murphy wrote it really OK? No, Oh
Perfect Blue is in.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I just watched it. Well, I was texting about this
because I just watched it, and I looked. I was like,
I need to hear. I need to read and listen
to things about this. Yeah, and so on my podcast app,
I searched Perfect Blue. First thing that comes up, bow
and Yang, I'm blank check yes. So I'm gonna have
to hit play on that three and a half million
hour episodes.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
They let the cameras roll.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
They really, I.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Don't remember much of that.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
You were great, okay, great, I.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Thought you were wine drunk.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, he loves the film. He loves it's one of
my it's my things.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
I think it's a very sam film.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's it's so you, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
You know what it is. It's Lady Gaga fame as
a prison.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
So tell me what's the okay. So it's a movie
that I'm I'm okay. If I ever dwindle like get it, like,
y'all step in. Okay, If I ever dwindle, y'all step in,
it's for the culture number fifty. If I ever dwindle,
y'all step in, that's friendship. Yeah, that's the four of
us though. Okay, So it's basically it came out in
like ninety by ninety six, okay, super prescient. It's this

(34:11):
girl who her name is Mima, and she was in
the little pop trio and then she leaves the trio
in order to pursue an acting career on a television show.
But then like her, some of her fans and one
kind of stalking presence in particular, is like angry about
that wants to keep her sort of an amber in

(34:32):
this girl group as a pop star. But she's like,
I'm an actress now. Then her manager gives her a
computer as a gift that's hooked up to the internet.
Ninety five she's on. Then she boots up the computer
and then like all of a sudden, she sees a
website like a blog essentially diary entries written as her,
but like in great detail about her life in her day,

(34:52):
like on set, like was on set today?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Did this? She was like, how does this know? Keep
in mind this is mid nineties, yeah, pre pre blogs, Pregker,
pre Gocker, the peak and and the renaissance. I yeah,
of Goker.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
But then she thank you basically she like it's she like,
it's it's fully dissociatid it's it's this like psychological thriller
where like she's being chased by her own like presence,
like someone is like really like I don't know, like
stalking her, and it ends in like horror like help me,
help me.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
As like another her that's like born from the internet.
There's like another creation. She can't really decide or delineate
whether it's something that's in her mind or whether it's
an actual like embodied thing that has somehow been created
from this nasty dark image of her on the internet.
And she her reality shatters because she's unable to be

(35:48):
like I'm me. That's that I can register reality.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
It's like about it's about becoming crazy from reading the
comments basically. Yeah. But also what's what's also prescient about it,
which you mentioned I think on this podcast episode, is
she's not a huge star. She's not Madonna in the movie.
She's actually kind of like a small She's almost like
like she's she's like a so which I always think

(36:16):
because it's like predicting this era where like the internet
is a bunch of micro celebrities and all of them
are going insane fully ADU style.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Thirty years ago and so very black Swan right. Literally,
Baron copied it for Black so so then when Black
Swan comes out, everyone's like, hey, you copied Perfect Blue
and he's like, no, I'm influenced by And then now
it's very full circle. That's doing is and who what's
the other person that that fully copied the paprika is?

(36:44):
Barry Christopher Nolan hes very inception? Yes, yeah, So anyway,
what do we think about Gaga doing? It's basically Mayhem.
It's basically the Mayhew.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I of course celebrate, Okay.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
I think what's anything she's in? I will celebrate.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's the thing that's like, it's it's gonna be whatever
it is. You could put her in a movie I
would never see.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I saw a joker too. I am there.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
I have no take on her.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Besides, because the take is always well, I will be
obsessed with them.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
So it's like, I can't be a journalist when it
comes to Lady Goga because I'm biased.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Exactly, So I recuse myself participating fully.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I have I have an idea that I haven't thinking
about that I think could really change things around for missus,
Lady Gaga. Go ahead, I love this should play Mary Todd.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, I mean, this is like it.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I think I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I know, and I'm with you. There's nothing more I
would want than that. Like I just said, it doesn't
matter what she's doing. I think you're trying to be obsessed.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'm you don't think it would be a smashing success.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I think it would be a success. I don't think
she has reason.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't think oh Mary is at her level of
sort of cultural relevance.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
And I mean that's the thing. It is the number
one theater property.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
It had true.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
It has absolutely come for Hamilton.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, it has. It has come for Hamilton.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Oh Mary has come for Hamilton.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Knock knock clock, clock, clack clock, clock.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Over clock clock. I love that clock clock.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Because guess what if you told me ago, if you
told me year ago it was my Rudolph, I would
have said, no, she's too you know, famous to do
it or whatever. Like, I just think it's only going
to keep getting more prestige until it's Michelle Obama.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Well, you know they fully you know who was fully
going to do it and talked about it on this
podcast was Jennifer Lawrence. She was going to do it,
and it didn't work. Out, and then we had heard
Hathway that Anne Hathaway was supposed to go first replacement,
that the.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Like the people that they're talking to you are on
this level as we know. I mean, that's why, like
it doesn't really bump at all.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
No, I was that.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I wasn't saying that.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
It's not like her level that's bumping me. It's more
like the silliness.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Okay, you don't think she's silly. I think she Oh
you don't think she's silly.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Of course I think she's silly. It's just like But
at the.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Same time, Sam didn't understand the campout woman. If a
star is born, Oh.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
My god, I think she is.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
And you thought House of Gucci was a ground to drama, Well,
he said that accent works.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
That accent did work.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
I also thinks it's everyone else's accent that didn't work.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
She was in the right place, that is true, Adam Trevor.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well not, No, My my favorite performance from the movie
is of course say it with me.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Of course she is one of our greats.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yes, there's no disputing it.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I was recently rewatching the Third Rock episode she's in
where she goes she's like wearing a T shirt that
says something funny, and she's like, don't let my silly
T shirt distract from something serious. I'm about to say
what perfect silly T shirt distract from?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Thirty Rock used to be the Oh Mary where they
would really bring in these these a lists.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yes, it's like, take me back.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I actually I've been out of thirty Rock. Kick again.
I've been mainlining it. It's really nice. It's been just
you forget. You're like, oh wow, it actually can just
be jokes. It can it can?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
We're so far away from that now is a culture.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
When was the last time you heard a joke?

Speaker 6 (40:20):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Actually?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I do like it was Donald Trump becoming president.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
This podcast went dark woke today.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
It's so scary.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Get me Gavin you some yeah, you know jabuki and
I quin in your term today, which it's called Gavin
Newsome comedy. Do you want to hear what it is?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:46):
It is comedy and I'll tell you who we're referring to,
off Mike. It is comedy that takes last culture. It
is comedy that takes the worst parts of all comedy
and the worst parts of club comedy and combines it.
Oh god, I would love Gavin, and I know I'm
just saying, that's what Gavin Newson is doing with like
taking the worst parts of liberal and worst parts of

(41:09):
too much creditbly. No, No, he's not doing comedy. No,
he would be a great Marry Todd, but he is
not doing comedy. I'm saying the metaphor for this kind
of comedy is yes, yes, I.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Think he's just trying to make everything culturally normal.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, because that's what we have to do.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
We just have to be culturally normal and then we'll
all be fine.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Wait. Wait, Lindsey Graham, Mary Todd. When oh.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Lindsey Graham, Sam, you okay, and you have to take
this as a compliment. Oh you are already an amazing
casting brain, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
And they just out of the casting oscar, and they just.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Out of the casting oscar.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
You've always been this should give me the oscar.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, they should give you the oscar.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
But achievement.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Sam would always like connect the perfect dots when we
were doing shows together.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
I feel, well, let's I'm gonna take it as a compliment.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah taken, Yeah, yeah, excuse me, don't raise your voice
on my co host. Yeah, you're being the yelling lady.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Wait, you guys said, you guys brought something for us.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Well, first, I was going to say something about casting.
Very quickly, we were talking about because we're.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Doing a much standing up yourself, we're doing a bunch.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Of records while we're here, and we were talking about
who we should book, and George was like, who's in
the theater?

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Who's in the theater? And I was like, who do
I have like a complicated relationship with, Like who do
I want to explore my complicated relationship with? And George
is like, this is the exact difference between the two of.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Us in booking people.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
You want confrontation.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
I always want not confrontation, but like edge something I
want to like this was weird ten years ago, bad,
like you were rude to me, but like it can
be like like I sent you this email that I
was embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I want a little bit of tension and resolve. On
the podcast, it's very real Housewife of you.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yes, well you know I mean case point, point, point match, point, game, set, match,
next Question. Case Point is one of our early, very
buzzy episodes and that it was listened to by multiple
Vulture staff writers.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
They forgot.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
It was when we had Jeremy o'harris on and Jeremy
was actually Sam's high school bully and they literally like
made up on.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
My, Oh my gosh, yeah, this is the difference between you.
So but then and are we allowed to know who
in the theater we we we figured out or no?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
No.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
I was just like, I'm always like, how can we
You know, we love obviously having comedians on and that's
our bread and butter, but I'm always like, I want
every six seven episodes to have someone out of the box,
like had Alison Roman or when we you know, And
I was like, okay, who is like someone in the
like I want to have Sondra Burnheart on? Ye should Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Well she said no, she said no off camera. That
feels like she is like too cool to do anything.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
No, no, no, she was She's currently not doing podcasts,
and I just want to say, if she does Culturistas,
that's because she has changed her mind about podcasts, not
because you got her and we did.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Of course, they brought something for us to things you
don't want to know, And I just want to say,
this is going to make an amazing social clip. That's
a podcast Social Armed.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
We have a few things of a few terms we've
invented on our podcast, a few games, a few like
recurring motifs, if you will, and we.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Want it a way to make sense of the world.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
It's a way to make sense of the world. We
love kind of like theorizing and putting things into categories
and boxes, and so we wanted to bring some of
them to you guys so they can reach a wider audience.
And I think it could really benefit both of us.
Ok we we would love to be your mule.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
We're first, Well, we might have to start with Okay, okay,
let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
LIZ'SO.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Okay, So the first one is h this game that
we do where we put things but.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
You guys, Yes, So it's the him Sisters. It's called
either Heime Game or heim Lick, depending on our mood.
And we give you three and you have to choose
which one of them is Danielle, which one of them
is st and which one of them is Alana. Now,
for anyone who's not familiar with the personalities of the Him.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Sisters, yes, break it down.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
No, no, let them let them do it first.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
No, no, no, I want to hear George's I.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Think I want them to okay, okay, okay, and then
can can we hear your sibilation?

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Maybe we'll do like a couple without any context, and
then I will yes, okay, perfect. So how about this?
So how about this? Let's start big Gaga, Taylor, Beyonce.
Which one is Alanaheim? Which one is Danielleheim? Which is
so easy? Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
So I think that st Heim is Taylor Swift. I
think that Danielle Heim is Beyonce, and I think that
Alana Heim is Gaga. And the way that I could
break that down is that Gaga and Alana both have
not only promising film careers, but like already proven like
arguably like potentially equally talented in this pursuit is the other.

(45:55):
I would say that Danielleheim is the Beyonce because it's
kind of like when you line all three up, like, well, well,
you know, there's your front woman. I do believe that
that there's a there's like a certain like front woman
glow there. And then I think Esti and Taylor, I
think I think just like no, what I think is
like creating that bone. I actually think like I think

(46:17):
artistic pursuit drives. And also, I do think cool girl vibes.
I think you're gonna see them at the cool.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Coolgirl Vibes sort of social chair, sort of like the
great sort of connector of all these different things.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, we're leaving arm in arm from via Karata and
everyone else that we're talking about is like not necessarily
doing that.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Right, Yeah, Okay, Okay, that's good. Okay, we'll do one
more and then we'll get you okay for Bowen Charmander,
Bubbles or squirt Oh thank you, Oh my god, that's
so amazing.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I'm gonna start with Squirtle a is sty playful, bubbly yes, hmm?
Bulblesor is Alana super no? I think bubble Bubbles is
a lot of grounded, slow to blossom.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Then Venosaur, Big Flower, Big.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Flower Flower, venus Ur and Pocopia, the new hit Pokemon game.
The personality that the assigned to Venosaur because they can talk,
because you play as a ditto transforming as the human being,
and so Venosaur's personality is calling you deary, Hi, deary,
It's so cute, which that feels very Alana. And then
and then I guess Charmander Danielle like ultimately a fire Yeah,

(47:31):
the Rocker, the Rocker, the Rocker girl. Yeah, Charmelion with the.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
And also like ultimately the Charizard hologram card was the
one that was like, Yeah, that's the.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
One you want. If you want one card, it's that one.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
It's that one if you're lucky to get it. Because
that's the thing too, is Danielle is elusive, like Charizard.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Well, I've seen her like fifteen times in the Lost
Phillies while I've been in New York.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
You've seen zero.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
I've never I've never spotted st You've never spotted, only
spotted Danielle.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Danielle's part time job that she does supplemental income is
being spotted.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
It's being spotted at Danielle's job.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Interesting, I would think see that.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I feel like the the bit that people do about
time is that like st and Alana are like the
girls of La They're out and like I feel like
Danielle is the one that's a little bit more like.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
I'm in the studio. I might make it. But she's
at the restaurant with the producer chatting about the next podcast. Okay,
she's going to the trendy restaurants, and she's with a
guy who's like, you know, he's like forty five years old,
wearing Chuck Taylor's and like a leather jacket and a
side word Beanie.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I got to say, we've we've met them now a
couple of times.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
It's like talking to y'all, well, we're we're based on that.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, so which one of you is? Who? Let's do this?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
So I so here's I'll say sort of our interpretation
of the huts, and then you can fill in the
fill in the blanks to me, Danielle. They each represent
a different archetype. Danielle the CEO, Alana the ang yes,
and Sti the comedian.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
So when we saw I'm in at Barclays, I want
to say her garden excuse.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Me, the Barclays have manten the barklays of Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
When Sti at some point was sort of like, and
now this is the st section of the concert, she
did a full twenty five minute stand up set and
that led into her song yeah whereas. So that's kind
of her talent. Danielle's talent is being kind of like
the the brains behind the operation. And then Alana. Of
course she's winning Oscars. She's wearing a wig in one

(49:42):
batal after another. Yes, and she's and she is the
young one.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, now what was yours? Now you you were gonna
say this for after? What is your sort of was that?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Just it?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Like you're like the way you just described all three
of them.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I think those are the archetypes. Do you have anything? Yeah,
it's like the Angeene the comedian. And see that's great.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Okay, So knowing this, yes, do we stand by what
we've said?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I think so, and I have and we can do
like one more we like this and then and then
as a duo we'll build together this last.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Okay, would you like to ask one of these so
considerate of each other?

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Okay, okay, it's intimate.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
What just happens.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
I like this one, I know. Okay, let's do Martini
Manhattan NEGRONI.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Oh, that's great, Martini Manhattan the Groni. So we're both
Martini guys. We love Negronis though, Honey, we just love
drinks so well. I mean, I have the drinks we
really love. And I don't want this to correlate.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
We could do White Red Rose.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Whoa, but that that feels like a color gradient that
I fel like I want to go back. I'm really
uncomfortable cut that I have. I have one, I have
one for the for Ma and Emanhattan Grony, and then
I'll do red white orange. I'm gonna start with Esti again.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
STI is going to be Martini. Yeah, fun cheek, sort
of like the town.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Even though we've said yeah and we've said Sti is
out of the tire, Martini is being held and spilling.
That's very sty that's fun.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I'm gonna say Manhattan is a Lana, not necessarily the
girl that you think of when you think of firsthand,
like the heime sort of trinary, turnary, but Alana, once
you see her on her own, you're like, yes, like

(51:41):
she she's isolated in different sort of relief something You're
like yes. And then Negrony like brooding texture earth the daniel.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, wow, that was beautiful that many of the same reasons.
I was going to say that red wine is Danielle,
like it's robust.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Red wine is not be more daniel I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
It expands as you as as you interact with it. Yes,
white wine is a lot of tim White wine is
a lot of high because there's something and you know what,
it's a little bit like toss some clubs. Literally suddenly
it's it's it's fun in a new way.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
And the orange wine is actually had orange wine two
nights ago and love the way I look. I guarantee
it because it was a little bit like organic and
and the the the waitress was like, not a lot
of people are into this one, but.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
The people that are sucking up wine fully She's like,
there it's fizzy.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yeah, I think I think you taste it and you're like,
oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna keep going.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah you're saying I did not expect that that's what
that would taste. Like, Yeah, we'll take a look.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeah yes, And I would say the best we all know,
the best thing with all these cocktails is to mix
them up in one big bull and just slurping straws.
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
Oh wait a minute, we're getting scorpion bulls.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
When are we getting scorpion balls?

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
So when Sarah Sherman was here like a month ago,
we were like on the pubber were like, let's get
Martiniz and then they got us Marchin. I'm not going
to make anybody do that now. But that would be
so fun if we just said, can I say the question?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Did we start this at two?

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Is that because we came in a little late? Right
back up?

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Why do you think time flies when you're having fun?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Clockett? Clockett?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Question? Wasn't the clock slash statement? A clock is a
statement and it's also yes, like akik is a party?
Did what have a kiki? Last year? Is one of
our sketches? You just so that you know what you

(54:07):
said last year? I was like, I did not know
you were crazy. Sometimes you say words that you have
no idea. You said yeah, and I'm like what and
then like sometimes I listen.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
To That's an amazing defense for the next time you
say something really offensive.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Miss what is Lizzo?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Okay? So we want to tell you about Lizzo's pass,
which played okay, okay, Well, and it's less we gain
more of just a concept.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Here's the thing, Lizzo's pass. No one can get upset
about what is discussed when it comes to Lizzo's past,
because well, you made the choice.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
It's not offensive.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
No, No, it's an observation, it's an examination. But just
just just for the Yeah, for for everybody, for everyone
out there trying to make something out of nothing, Let's
do it.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
So Lizzo's pass.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
When an artist gets to a certain point in their career,
they're cool, they're underground, they're growing, they're growing, they're growing,
they're gigantic, and it's like, what do you do next? Yes,
and there's a narrow little path and you either go
to Target, you go to Pitchfork. And we were saying,
this is sort of where like Chapel Roone.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Is, She's at Lizzo's past, and I just want to say,
you know, people forget because this is Sam's concept and
he always he always told me people forget that Lizzo
because we are so used to her being this huge
star start in the rock and not only India but
like like Minneapolis, like Prince in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Yeah, like she was like a cool If you look
up old articles about Lizzo, it's like meet the punk
rock body positive rapp or that's shaking up the Midwest.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Yeah, I mean there was she did one show in
Brooklyn that was like the meanest gay guys all went
to it and we're like this rocks and it's like
and that won't happen now, and.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
She and so she and again I say this with
nothing but respect. She chose target. She chose She's like,
I'm gonna do you know, I'm going to go for
the moms yep, right, she you know else chose target
Pink like back in the day. And I you know,
if she had chosen Pitchfork, she would not be co
hosting for Kelly Clarkson, right, right.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
And these are choices, then, these are choices that have happened. Now.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
The issue is, of course, there are some exceptions where
someone can choose target, then backtrack and go pitch for it.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
In my dream of dreams, that is what that is
what I am doing, because I feel like I've I've
inadvertently chose target and now I'm like, oh wait, no, no, no,
I don't want this.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Well, I think it's it's it's pretty easy to choose
target when you realize what choosing target means, which you're
going to be financial.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yeah, you're seeing dollar signs exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
And I think Chapel, I think Chapel's past lizards is passed.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Well, it's complicated. She is a really weird one.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
She's she's like slowly walking away from those past, but
it's like herd, it's like snowy, and it's hard to
see which way she's going.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
I think she that she's on.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I think she's going to pitch for it.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I think a lot of people are pushing Chapel towards Target.
But I think that like even if they really all
all hands on deck at a meeting with Chapel president,
we're like, hey, guys, look me in the eyes. We're
choosing target. She can't choose target. No, she's too, she's too.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
I think you're playing something genius, which is that they're
push They're trying to make her go target, and she's
pushing against Yes, the wind is blowing her to target,
and she's saying, no, I'm gonna wear the nipple piercing
dress to the awards.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
And she's flat out here like, hey, I'm leaving the
Wassermann Agency. This is a decision. I will choose to
make a wave in this way that's going to make
people uncomfortable. Again and again and again. That person cannot
they cannot stay at that.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah, do you know what happened? I think there was
one summer where Chapel accidentally was pushed to target and
then to quote Sam, she was like this is ghosh
and then took the steps back and went back to
the pause, was like I'm actually gonna pick.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
It's like Charlie XX for H and M were like
confused by that, and then it's like, well, when you
get to this level, like there's gonna be some interaction
with target, like when you get to a certain point,
like you can't. It's weird because is it easier to
be doomed in one?

Speaker 4 (58:14):
I don't know. Do you think anyone's doomed in pitchwork
because to.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Get because ultimately then then they're always gonna think. It's
like what Charlie has always said, like commercial success, commercial success.
It always eluded her and also therefore tormented her. Even
someone as cool as her who had a mansion in
Pitchfork Lands.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Yeah, do you think you know who chose?

Speaker 1 (58:39):
She had the nicest, coziest, most tenured spot in Pitchfork
Land that you really could get.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
But Charlie is a case in someone who has been
who stayed at Lizzo Point despite other people trying to
push her. She would do the one for me, one
for them, for years until Brat, which was supposed to
be the Pitchwork thing, but then it fully pushed her.
That is like the.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Pitchforks stand inside the target. It's like, yeah, there's a
whole there's a little Pitchfork capsule collection, and it's Charlie
being like, do you want the tank top?

Speaker 4 (59:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
She also made art about being at Lizzo's pass Yeah
I know, which I guess makes her y'all's favorite pop
star outside of Lady Gaga.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
I mean she's up there for me for sure.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Same. I mean Charlie, it's like, that's like my family member. Yeah,
when you've been there from the beginning. She could she
could come out and make like the War, like just
the Fart Sounds album, and I'd be like, you know,
there's something to it.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I was in the shower and like like tracks from
like XCX World, the unreleased tracks.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I was like, I was like TKO and like can
you hear me or whatever?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
And I was like, oh, Taxi. I was just like, ugh,
I this used to be Charlie, which is I'm not
saying that can coexist with For the.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
First time I ever saw Charlie live was at the
Chipotle Heritage Festival in San Francisco, California, and I want
to say, this is easily that just a crazy mixed
It was like, so this was imagine like peak millennial
hipster food truck era and it was the place to exactly,
there was a place to be. Of course, there's going

(01:00:09):
to be a Chipotle Heritage Festival that has a performance
from Charlie XCX where she debuts her song for the
Fault in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Our Stars Wow, which was Boom Clap, Boom Clap.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Charlie XX performing Boom Clap at the Heritage Festival in
San Francis.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah, that's when I said I'm going to be an artist, Honey,
I have to be.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I have a question podcaster to podcaster.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Yeah, sure, okay, I figured out the complicated relationship I
want on tangle.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Okay, okay, sort of it's not that personal.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Like when you guys like talk to like somebody who
you look up to a lot and you're like you've
been standing forever and who you like feel like you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Do you feel like it to be normal?

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
We try and then we fail.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
How do you do it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Because when we talk to when we talk to people,
sometimes I see myself, like if I don't, if I'm
not personally friends with them, I immediately just turned into
like the most like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Like, so is it hard acting?

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I actually think we do a pretty good I think
we do a great job of like trying to talk
to them like they're human beings because it's just more
fun to listen to. But it is hard when when
you meet this person for the very first time in
a situation like this to not be like a little

(01:01:24):
effusive or a little stamished, because because you do have
that type of adoration for that person, and that tends
to be how we treat anyone who comes here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Anywy y right right, you're not doing like dead pan
like Adam Friedland. No, no, you're already.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
It's a positive environment, so which feels I don't know,
normal or whatever. But like this, it's the same thing
with like small talk, where it's like this is you,
this is what you do. It's small talk. It's for strangers.
It's for you to sess out safety and if you
want to keep advancing this conversation or this relationship or whatever.
It's it's fawning and standing for like a popstar or

(01:02:03):
an actor or whatever, or like some public figure that
like is big. We're just like this is for both
of us a way to like sess out how we
want to advance this conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
It's like if we're not going to break the seal
and go in like come in and be like so
like what was like throw a neck challenge?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Like we're not going to do that with them, Sometimes
we randomly do's like it gets there with some people,
like we were we talked to Kate Blenchett about like
what what what goes down at berg kind and stuff
like that. She talked about like certain things we never
would have expected from her. I will say, like sometimes
a publicist will say in advance like hey, like don't

(01:02:41):
touch on this, this and this, And I look at
the things that they're that they're that they're warning against
us talking about, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Like, in what world?

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Hey what I want to bring this up? Hey, I
know she hasn't spoken to your sister in seven years.
I want to ask you about that on camera, Like no,
I want to like basically tickle each other with words.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Yeah, oh okay, and also not for.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Nothing, but it's it's it's kind of worked. So why
would we you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
But people people get like emotional and I don't know,
not emotional, just people just feel a certain way whenever
we like talk to effusively to people and it's like oure,
but this is you would do the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
I immediately, like when we had like just each other
Ferguson on, like, I was like, this is gonna be
so like because we talk about liking Modern Family a lot,
but it does come from a place of like when
we were in our twenties, we were like fuck this
show and then.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
We like are doing now We're like we love this show.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Yeah, And it's like okay, but I'm like I'm even
afraid to say that. So the question, like in my mind,
I had this really complex emotional question and then it
comes out as like so you're on Modern yeah, and
it's like not there's no bite or edge to it.
It's like he's just like yep, it was a good show,
and I'm like totally yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
But we've we've all worked in scenarios professionally where we
had to approach like quote unquote talent or like you know,
a celebrity or something for like a comedy show or
a TV show where like, okay, so these are your jokes,
this is what we've written for you. It's like there's
just that part is removed and instead the thing that
we're presenting to them is thank you for being on
our program, and like this is this is what we

(01:04:17):
have to offer you because you came here for a
reason and we're here for like it's a mutually beneficial
exchange of something. I don't know, you know, it's it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, people are smarter I think than too. Then sometimes
like you might think they're going to be coming in.
It's like, look, when a certain celebrity comes in and
they're like an A list star, they probably know the bit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
About them, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Like I think you guys, you guys could have had
Jesse Tyler Ferguson come in or anyone come in, like
and be like, so you know that you're so mainstream
gay famous that certain gay men feel a certain way
about it and like you, but you do become a
little bit of like a projection punchline. It's like if
he doesn't know that, then that would be weird, you

(01:05:02):
know what I mean. I think we all are like
experiencing some level of like what it means to be
then a gay that gets to be the one where
the things get projected onto. And so everyone, any media
literate or internet literate person understands this and maybe they've
been dying to talk about like hey, yeah, it feels
this way, that way or another way about like just

(01:05:25):
by existing as a gay guy in the public guy,
it feels this way. It might not be a particularly
interesting conversation, but it is something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
When Marybeth and I were doing the when I was
helping Marybeth to the Red Carpet or for the first
person she spoke to at the Golden Globes was Dylan
Ephron and we hadn't prepared for him, and so we
didn't have anything ready. And I went up to her
and I was like, ask him if he has any siblings,
Just say do you have any siblings? And she asked
him and he didn't get the bit, but it was

(01:05:55):
I was like, this to me, this is the perfect
celebrity interaction. Is Marybeth asking do you have any siblings?
And Dylan Efron being like, oh, yeah, I have a
a sister and brother. And then Mary Beth goes and
this was improvised she goes, Oh, that Efron, that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
My favorite things growing up, like when I watched any
type of celebrity interview were like I loved, like between
two ferns. I loved like when people would come in.
Sometimes I do feel like a world where we could
have just set up a thing that was more abjective.
But the fact is, and this is okay to say,

(01:06:36):
the fact is, when you really drill us down to
who we are, that's not who we are. Like we
we are a little bit more earnest than that. I
would become exhausted pretending to just nag someone all the
time and then have everyone think my personality was just
that different from what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
I don't know how, but I think I understand what
you're saying. But I do think as someone who was
worked with you, you do have if you can access
that edge very easily. You just don't want that to
be you're defining question.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Yeah, I well, yes, I I guess That's what I'm saying,
is like that's the reason why I sometimes annoy I'm
annoyed about it because some of the time I do
feel like I would be more comfortable slash get away
with more. Yeah, if I just don't God forbid wins
well you know, but but but but also then there's
like another side, which is like, yeah, I kind of do.

(01:07:30):
Maybe I'm crying at a wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Do you remember when Zach elfanekusas Natalie Portman so for
VI for Vendetta you shaved your head? Did you also
shave your v for Vagina?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
That? I do remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Shout out talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Vagina unsung here and all the between two ferns was
the woman kind of like walking all the guests off,
just being like yeah, like a six foot tall woman
just like angling her face away from the camera. It's
like always like taking up like Sally Field and like
telling her to walk this way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
It's I think it's wait, hold on, So you guys
are pass we well certainly you know that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Perfuge genius and Jesse Tyler Ferguson is literally like we
are is Lizzo's past. It's like, do you choose perfume
genius or do you choose Jesse Tayler Ferguson. I like
it couldn't be more clear.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
You guys are so I think you guys will without
even intention go towards pitchwork. Yeah, that's just I feel
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Is and I think I want to say Sam is
very good at keeping us pitchfork. Sometimes I get carried away.
We'll get like a request for a guest and I'll
just be like, no name, let's do like yes, like
that all in the.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Sex and the City movie because he gets carried away.
I was going to call you that so car away.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Oh oh, but that's the that's the balance, that's the
balance because like I yeah, sometimes I well, I also
literally the moment I'm looking at someone's eyes, I'm like,
I don't know your name.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
I don't know what you're in. I don't know what's
really hard, like really hard.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
I am Like when you said my dates, I was like,
I don't know my dates. Like that's crazy, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Out the ear.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I don't even know that. I can't tell you the dates.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Why I held on to it for the time that
I had to that is amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Like I keep saying, just another Ferguson and like that
is his name, right, Like I forget stuff like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Well, this is another element of I think. It's like
when you do get pitched a certain name for the podcast,
it is also like it's not just of course you're
thinking about it like an episode of the show, but
it's also like do I want to hang out with
that person lately? And then sometimes it's like, oh, I
I don't think I'd ever get an opportunity if it
wasn't this to hang out with that person and meat
that person and ask them questions. So of course we're

(01:09:53):
going to say.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Yes to it. Yeah, but like, is this going to
be a good hang good hand? Which was original? Through
it with the original name of our podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
She suited us for it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
She's so awful in person.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
What did she sue you if if it was your original?

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
She sued me. She sued me because I wrote Baby Mama.
And then she fully coped. I had a meeting with
her and she said, I hate this idea. You're gonna
complete flop. She called me a lot of homophobic slurs.
And then next morning I saw on Variety she was
developing a film called Baby Mama with someone named Tina

(01:10:32):
se And this is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yeah, this is when you were really on Variety, really
on the trades.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yes, that was when they were the best the trades.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Take me back to the good trades.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
Variety Spring two thousand and six, the photoshoop. I have
it framed in my bathroom. Wait, what was I gonna say?

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
There was a period.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
There was a period of time where like, I was
being sent a lot of magazines because I guess I
signed up for like the ones online, and so I
was getting the physical coffees and I walked I had
them all on my on my coffee table in la
and Joel walks in and he goes, It's like, I
c m in here, joke.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Oh my, I think it's time.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
It's time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
What you're you're right?

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
No, you're right, you're right. Well, there's happy to keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Can we say she's getting her four? We started four thirty.
But the thing about four I don't think so honeys
is there's for them and they always, as Beyonce, want
start all this conversation. So when a lot of people
get so upset when they hear it's time because they think,
oh my god, the podcast is ending, But really, you
know what it means. It just means the appetizer has
hit the table and now we can start eating, which

(01:11:54):
is what this segment is all about. Eating something up
in coatre for sixty seconds just.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
And if anyone takes that clip out of context, I'm suing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
You know it's gonna take that out of context. No,
she's gonna sue yours again. This is what you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
And the entire golbes. I think it was a little okay,
I think I scared her a little bit. No, no,
I literally I did.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
She was It's impossible not to scare anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
It's time. I already set up the segment. If you
don't know, and now you know again it's I don't
think so honey. All right, I'm ready, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
This is you're gonna start. I assume, yeah, this is
Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey, and his time
starts now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
I don't think so honey. Without fail, there's a fake spring.
There's a four or five day period where they're like,
oh my god, everyone's dressing horrible again in the streets.
And by horrible, I mean I see you gay guys
with those shorts. Yes, you know, the one that are
too short and too tight, and you whip them out
and you can see them all around the city. From
approximately February twenty eighth to March seventh, eighth, there's always,

(01:13:00):
without failer period where you think the groundhog done became
a slut thirty and got out his slutty shorts for himself.
But the fact is you're gonna get to something like
March eleventh, twelve, thirteenth, and it's roaring back in like
a lion out like a lamb. Honey, this lion lamb.
She has a lot of questions about her identity. March.
She is experimenting, babe, and she will continue to experiment.

(01:13:23):
You will never know what she's really like. Stay in
the house. It's not spring yet. It won't be spring
until April thirtieth, and it will be summer on May fourth.
This is the way it goes. I don't think so, honey,
anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
And that's wow, incredible, really beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I think, I what else? How else was it? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
I just have to say that, you know, as someone
that has been living in life for the last two years,
it's like so nice to be like caring about the weather. Yeah, no,
I And thank you for saying shut up, because I
keep feeling I keep talking to people and I can
feel the l a stink on me and I'm like
I've lived here for so long, Like in New York and.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
You like it better now there, No, don't say things, No,
don't say things like that. It's just a trade off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Okay, I'm sisters Chicago, New York, l A.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Okay, well this is tough. I think st is Chicago
because she's down to have some actual fucking fun, second
City trained, Second City trained sherif like no one else can.
I think Danielle is New York because she's tough. She's
tough and a rockery and a rocker because she's in

(01:14:40):
the film.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
She's in movie.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
I mean, how could you disagree with that?

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
And they're all from California. Okay, what was I gonna say?

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
I think I saw romp him in Hell's Kitchen when
I was Do they still know that?

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Is not?

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Okay? I think it was?

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Or is it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Have Theori?

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Have we Horseshoe?

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Theoried on rom Hims.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Or one blue striped? What romp him during? You guessed it?
The pandemic and well past the trust me I know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
I was like, oh god, well, anyway, that was beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
If rob come back ironically, that's kind of fun. There's
something to it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
I think, so a romp Him I don't know who
could bring a romp him back.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Harry Styles, Harry Harry Styles.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I do like his fashion.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
It's some times I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Yeah, I like the tie thing. Okay, all right, you
ready for your I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Think yes, and it actually it kind of details right
off of what we just spoke about.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Okay, this is van I don't think so, honey. As
time starts now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
I don't think so honey, Mary fuck kill. I think
let's expand the choices. It shouldn't be a triinar area.
How about Mary fuck ghost gas light talk to at
a wedding and maybe hook up fucks fuck that's already
fuck no, but sort of the seduction seduce and then

(01:16:09):
seduce and then you know, pay for dinner, but then
second guess of your second sending mixed signals. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
I think thirty seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
I think we can just we can always, we can
always expand sort of the uh, the sort of matrix
of choice here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
I don't really have any sort of fiery take on
I just I think I think everyone's open to this.
Idea's gonna push back. Unless you like the simplicity of
Mary fuck Kill, you can't do this with like the
hims Sisters necessary you can't you know that that is
an elegant sort of uh decision tree, Like it's only
three choices, you can't have more. But you know, Mary
fuck Kill, there are so many more things you can
do within just in life planet tree with the thing

(01:16:46):
with the concept.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
In that one minute.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
And here's my question for you. Are you used to
brin a carpenter? Because that was short and sweet?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
You know what, You're gonna do it, And this is
gonna be the last Mary fuck Kill, at least ever
on this podcast, maybe ever Mary fuck Kill the heim Sisters.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
No, what a gorgeous you know, we've we've planned, we
scripted out our entire appearance here so that we would
not offend any of the high school and I think
it's done a really good job, Like even when we're
describing them obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
You know what, let's do it Bowen Yang style, Mary
fuck talk to at a wedding and just hook up,
just kiss, no insertion. I like that and that there's
still really good things about that because you actually have
a conversation with the person, you remember it fondly, whereas
with fucking it's just set.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
And it's not it's not heraticle at all. Those are
all those all live very horizontally.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
I have it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
Yeah, Okay, I want to marry Alana. I just think
we could build a beautiful life together.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
You guys have the same sense of humor. Yeah, yeah,
I want to.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
I want to talk at a wedding and kiss Danielle.
Just feel like at a wedding, like it'd be so
funring lights.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Yeah, and it's like, so what's music like? And she's like,
and what what's what do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
And then you guys make out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Then we make out. It's like that was fun. Actually,
I didn't think I have fun of this one. This one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Someone gets a lot of weddings and then and then because.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
You know, we're having a fucking blast, we're in the
hotel room, we're getting kicked out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
It's gonna be doing that thing where you're doing that
thing where one person gets on the other and takes
a bottle of like whiskey and pours it on there.
Mix it up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
You know what is doing. You know what comedian is doing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
She is coming.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
She is Abby Jacobsen style, coming out with a giant
strap and she goes that's peg that's that's sty is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
You're like, girl, what, and she goes, dude, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
We're watching Bridge at Jones, bitch, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
You you're so excited that she had the new one.
You were hoping she to see it. Oh my god,
it was good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Actually to see it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
You don't expect the turns it takes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Oh, I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
And Renee performance one of the greats.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Oh, I don't think so many quickly just I thought
with Renee, we learned not to comment on people's faces.
With the whole Jim Carrey thing, and like everybody stop.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
They're trying to couch it in conspiracy culture as well
to get away with it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
And it's like, no, you're still not gonna know with that,
that's enough.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Do not comment on Jim Carrey's appearance, and do not
ask him about vaccines.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
I mean to be fair if I reread to meet
Jim Carrey, the last thing I bring up is vaccine.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
I know he's a literally comedy legend, Like I would
be like, I forgive you for everything else all.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Good, But if you step in front of a step
and repeat you're gonna be asked about vaccines. That's the world.
We love it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Okay, time to turn it over.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Okay, now, who wants to go first?

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
I feel like yours is a good finale? Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Because it's like meta, Sure you want to go first? Measure?

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Yeah, it's proud.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, this is an want to sponsor my meta? Well, sorry,
this episode of sponsored ban meta.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Yeah, this episode is actually only going to be on threads,
only going.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
To be for the first week.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
You say something. No, no, it's fine. The riff of
the riff has passed, right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
So it's you. Yeah, here's George Saveris's I don't think so, honey.
As time starts now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
I don't think so honey. Little stores that don't have
price tags on anything.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
I'm walking into let's say, a trendy men's wear boutique. Okay, sure,
you're Danish, you're Japanese. We all have the right to
self actualize. I walk in, I'm a guest. I'm being
looked up and down by a bunch of Wilhelmina models.
They're literally full time Wilhemina models. You're only doing this
part time because they want to practice being cruel to people.
I'm going through, I'm asymmetrical blazers, graphic t's whatever. Suddenly

(01:20:48):
it occurs to me, I don't know what any of
these things cost. I go up, I go up to
the person. I say how much is this? Suddenly they
say like it's nothing. Oh, that's eight hundred and fifty dollars.
Suddenly I have to be a Steppenwolf level actor and
my reaction has to be, oh, well, that's around what
I thought it would be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Favorite price.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
I stop asking because I'm embarrassed. I go to the counter.
Suddenly I'm paying eight hundred dollars. I sorry, this is
a store with no price tags. And then I'm surprisingly
paying a million dollars. What is this the American healthcare system?
What is this an art installation that's commenting on the
American healthcare system. I didn't come here to think. I
came to buy a blazer, and by the way, I
don't think so, honey, Patty Smith and not with the memoirs,

(01:21:29):
get it one minute, thank god.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Straight after the how much did a blazer cost?

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
You know, a blazer, I'm okay overpaying because it's structure
it's tailoring. My issue is like a button down shirt
should not be expensive. A T shirt should well a
T shirt if it's like you know, sort of like
a Supreme collab or something.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Again, but address it's crazy when you realize what prices
are for that. No, it's like saying when I was
like all throughout our twenties, like I'll never forget. I'm sorry,
I won't do this to you again after this. So
he bought my sister, my beloved, my twin went to

(01:22:15):
mass on Kitsune and bought what it was like, a
three hundred fifty dollars sweatshirt. And at the time, I
didn't think it was possible. I shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
I shouldn't have purchased it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
I agree, But that's but that when you find out
like what a desire a nice sweatshirt is, it's like whatever,
that's how much they are. That's just the reality of
it at a store like that. But I was I
was of the mind that you don't pay more than
forty five dollars sweatshirt, there's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
That's the voice in your head that is your mother
while you're at urban outfitters being like, we're not I'm
not paying one hundred dollars for a jacket.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
Every single time I buy a pair of shoes, Like
even if it's just like a normal pair of time shoes,
I'm like, this is insane, right, Like I'm being robbed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Yeah, but you know what, go to Converse sixty dollars, Oh,
sixty dollars for a classical American shoe that will never
will go out of So you guys were waiting for
it to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
There is a culture of silence in retail right now
where that's no completely yeah, culture of silence and shame
not or misinformation on information.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Yes, and that's no information.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
I'm going to give you a line to say if
you ever want to use it. It's one of my
favorite bits. Whenever anyone says the price, you just look
at them round the eye and you go, my favorite
price works every time. That'll be ninety two. Especially if

(01:23:34):
it's too much, you just go, it's my favorite price.
And they they take a minute, they take a second
and a half to be like what. Then they're like, oh,
he's a goof.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
That's so.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Are you ready? Yes, this is Sam Taggarts. I don't
think it's money as time starts now.

Speaker 5 (01:23:53):
I don't think so, honey, forcing celebrities to be normal.
I think celebrities are our weirdest people. They're completely isolated.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
They are unbound by the same things that we are,
and we punish them when they say weird stuff. They
should be allowed to say weird stuff. Timothy Chalomey should
be able to say the ballet is boring, that's fine.
And I think we should not attack them, and our
media ecosystem needs to coddle and support them and say,
I want to hear what else you're cooking up in there,
because it's sort of like a firal child. Like it's

(01:24:21):
like you have a different brain than anybody's else because
you exist in like a different structure of society. And
like even like you guys like like Matt, like before
we started recording, like you were talking about the vaccines.
You were saying all this really smart stuff and like, I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Just think you should say it on Mike, like that's
awesome that you're doing research, like Harry's trist like and
Bowen like of course, like all.

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
That stuff you were saying hoout Taylor Swift was like
I thought, really really smart and like everyone, no one's
above critique, So just say it on my I think
that's amazing. So let celebrities be freaking weird, keep Austin
weird and choose Pitchfork.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Y'all, we think Taylor Swift created the corona virus in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Wuhana, not a lab though outside.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
No, we think she made she made a bunch of swedes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Well, how do you think she She put uh narcotics
into all of her songs. That's why you're all singing along.
So you think she can't make the coronavirus?

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Yeah, well I didn't hear me sing along, but.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Well, you obviously haven't listened to this song. Havevin streams evermore?
Because she's obviously a witch and she said that in
her aerostour.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
She said she's a witch. In her aerostour, she like this.
Oh oh that's so interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
You obviously didn't go to the aerostol.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
No, you would have had a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
How do you expect to get along with the himgirls
if you're not even going to go to the aerostour.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
I want to know what they're saying. I want to
know what those him girls are saying when the doors
are closed and they check for hidden mics.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
So you support a surveillance state essentially, No, the opposite.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
I think we have a surveillance state and we need
to get the hymns in a room with no mics.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
But you want to know what they're saying in the room.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
I'm not a mic.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
You're pro make in the room. You're a Russian plan.
I'm in the room.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
In the go ahead, girl, get my sisters together in
a room. By the way, forty seconds in they're already
doing a TikTok dance. They're perfectly synchronized.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
I am very so blown away by their synchronization. No,
you can only describe it as the performers. Yeah, SIPs tea.
It's almost as I turn I turned my right. It's
almost at the performers. I turned right. It's a perfect commercial.
That's amazing, Just like holding it at the angle.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
All I said, that's actually crushed ritz crackers.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
All I felt was the humor and the impact. All
I saw were two words, diet coke go dang. You
really chose target, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
And in a way we all did by being in
this room.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
I'm talking to you all. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Everyone's so they are all complicit, always.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Always, look at this, Look at this, these collars run red.

Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
We had the comment once that was like that was like,
I can't believe people are talking about like anti capitalism
with an iHeart thing on their.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Microphone, and it was like, chill out. We contain multitudes.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Yeah, I think we're all here contained even so much
more than just Pitchfork and target.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Who has the most multitudes?

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Who is the most multitudes here?

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
No, I don't think you are at all.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
I think I'm really out.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
You've got you, You've got a tude.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
You've had a tude all day.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
Don't talk about him like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Who who is more protective than so far?

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
George has been more protective of Sam?

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
Well, now that's because Sam is a visitor to New
York City. When I'm in La Sam is more protective
of me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Is that? Do you really feel that way? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Jessee Della Fergerson kept coming for George hard Yeah huh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
And then in San Francisco, you because both of you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Francisco, I feel like I'm protective of Sam. But then
I also at this point, every time we go, I'm like,
I'm gonna show you George's San Francisco and then it's
sort of like this is the third wave of coffee
shop I used to go to.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
But it's the same when we go Chi and I'm like,
I love this place and like I went there once
when I was twenty one, Like I don't actually know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Have you been to Boston with him?

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Lost together?

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Yeah, that's fine, that was fun. Here's what I don't understand.
You had a friend in town. I'm just gonna show
them around, right, what does that mean exact?

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Honey, honey, honey, that means but yourself a ticket of
a high line because we're walking to the Whitney.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it means.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
I keep getting like letters from the Whitney, like not letters,
like like what do you call them? Like please mailers
and mailers.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
I think I think all of New York City is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Or speaks me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Because we're both great because not really, I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Think he's still I think Greek Turkish because as twenty
three and me came back Turkish, like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
It's all it's all Mediterranean, I mean, was under Turkish rule.
So that's probably your.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
That's why I cried your whole wedding, Yeah, because I
was like I wish I could be a part of
this culture. I'm without a culture, just sobbing and sobbing
to your family.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
That's actually better though, two more multitudes Disney.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Wait, I gotta say it. Favorite joke of all time
that didn't make it into an SNL.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
It's this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
It's Heidi Gardener in a Flora Bama Shore sketch and
she goes. I was born in the China part of
Epcot Centers, so I'm half Chinese, half Disney because Chinese Disney.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Well wasn't this great?

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
This was so fun?

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
When we shouldn't take this long for.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
The episode, I was like, okay, we.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Shouldn't this long.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
Yeah, we just didn't hit that laugh quote.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
We gotta all get together without these things, because let's
go see heights. I actually, well, you know, I already
saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
I haven't seen it yet, have you either? I have
not seen it. Yes, let's go. I would go to
use membership always Avery.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
She's my favorite album of hers.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Great album.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Oh people talk about that's true. So when he starts
to talk about like foreign films or like you know,
sort of you can you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
Get us to leave because Lena is probably can you
see my eyes? Just like Okay, I disappeared.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Well that's kind of sometimes me like during certain subjects,
We've always said I'm the UEA.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
But I feel like there's a there's an inversion happening.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
I feel like I'm the you. Well, there's a twist something.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
We know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
We have our George and I have our own thing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
And also, interestingly enough, professionally speaking, Matt and I have
worked together professionally, and you two have worked together.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
That's true, but also I've worked with Matt a little.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Yeah, oh well we actually have. We we were just
we giggled and gaggled at after minute. Oh yes, we've
all shared space with not just today but many other times.
And thanks for just joining us and just having a
glimpse into what it's like to have a community of

(01:31:09):
guys that really support you. And what if we were
Manosphere that'd be cool.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
There was a point we were all talking about. I
was like, are we Manisphere?

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
You know what I mean is set up. It feels
a lot more man I like.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
See the video and I'm like, whoa, we look Manisphere.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
No, I will say, that's that's the Army girl, right
right right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
You know what I'm jealous of and ministerere podcasting, Celsius
is everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
He's really without them here, there's a full.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Long to have them strewn about, and I just feel.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
Like there's like a chillness that they get to have,
like I, I honestly get to like something I try.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Is this untucked? Everything I said today a publicist, Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
I was gonna say, you seem very media trained. I am,
and that's all I woke up and chose media training. No.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
I actually recently did a podcast where every single clip
of me resulted in NonStop vitriol and now towards towards you,
towards me, I'm sorry, and I now am I have
media trained myself. It's kind of like how my dad
says he did autotherapy to himself, has never seen a therapist,
but he said it worked. That's what I did to myself.

(01:32:26):
With media training, It's like, is it media like?

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Like nothing, nothing will media train you like a thousands,
I guess I'll never open. I feel I feel media trained.
I feel the media has trained me, but I feel
like I want.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
To get media trained both.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Yall, No, well, you have to go in for your
annual training they explained to you. Then you TikTok clogged up.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
Oh, I'm gonna have some some media cavities. For sure.
They are going to be upset with me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
It's an alcoholic.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
You're both they both have an hour your media trade.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
You clearly don't want this to end.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
I know I could talk forever.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Well st Radio Lab is on Big Money Players and.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
So has lost forul teresta.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
It's actually not talked about it enough, like sister podcasts
down us a mess. And then the six of us
are all going to get on stage and Bell House, well,
well you didn't invite us.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Sorry, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Should we go?

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Yeah? Do you guys want comps?

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
We actually would love to go to the show with Time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
Is gonna be on it?

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Wait, are you actually gonna come?

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
I would come, celest.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Patty Harrison, Oh, I want to go fun see you're there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
If it's not too late, I know day of CompCert.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
No it's not too don't backtrack, you're coming. I'm coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
This is weird. Yeah, I never make decisions like this.
If I were you guys, I wouldn't come.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
We're coming.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
I need a day in advance, well too late.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
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Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Stream High because they got a lot, They got us
through a lot of the episode today.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
Yeah, and streamheime and and and support Gaga and and
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Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
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Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
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Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
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Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Last.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
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Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
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