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August 13, 2024 51 mins

Dramos deep dives into what it means to find success doing the thing your passionate about, being a hobbyist vs. a professional, knowing what you're getting yourself into by chasing your dreams, developing the awareness to know what patterns are holding you back and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I love me talking about talk. There we go, he said,
you live in life as a dingle, where you question
where you fit in every time you mingle, they say
you do this with not a fact. My rap red
this life as a Ingo. Yes, hello, and welcome to
another episode of life as a get Ingo. I am dramas,

(00:26):
of course, and today is one of those days I
plan on talking about something completely different. Literally probably up
until about ten minutes ago, and then I was just
talking to myself as I typically do, and just sort
of talking myself through like a funk, like a morning

(00:48):
a morning funk, you know what I mean, where you like?
I woke up this morning and I was like super energized.
I had been really exhausted the last couple of days.
I'm and quite frankly, I've been exhausted the last month
or so. I've had really bad I guess insomnia. I've
had trouble falling asleep, and it's just been my like,

(01:09):
my mind has been going in a good way, like
I've I've been super creative over the last month or
show and it's been amazing. But as a results, I've
had trouble sleeping. You know, when I land the pillow.
My mind is just racing them and thinking about other ideas,
and it's just like this excitement, you know. And as
a results, I've had trouble sleeping, and I've been really
you know, trying my best to like catch up on
sleep when I can. And then obviously my my schedule

(01:30):
if you listen to the show, you know, I DJ
and stuff like that, and then I run a couple
of businesses, specifically the U haul one, so kind of
polar opposite to the DJ life, right, U haul business
I open early, the DJ life I get home late,
so a lot of overlap and exhaustion as a result there.
But I woke up, like for the first time in

(01:54):
a few days, feeling really energized today, and I did
some writing and did a couple of things around the house,
and then I was just like drained my energy that
it just felt to go away. It was like, you know,
a tease. It's kind of like when you're getting over
being sick and and you wake up and you're like, oh,
I feel amazing, and then like you know, an hour
into day, you're like, oh shit, nope, I am still
still sick. I feel like that, right, So that's a

(02:18):
sort of long winded backstory into today's conversation. But I
was just like, you know, you know, kind of giving
myself a pep talk because I was feel a little
bit down. I was like getting anoyed with myself, like, man,
why aren't you moving a little bit quicker to get
your day started and get into all the shit you
have to do today? And you know, I was sort
of then getting down, like, man, I don't feel like

(02:39):
doing anything today, Like what's wrong with me? Blah blah blah, right,
and just having one of those days that I think
all of us go through. And I try to be
candid about and honest about and not sell you on
some bullshit of like just because you're doing your passion,
you never work a day in your life. And I
sort of was reminded of this conversation I had her

(03:00):
on a podcast with Seth Godin. He was being interviewed
and I can't I can't remember. I'll put in the
show link. I think I have it on my podcast app.
And it was like, what I mean, it's anyway, it
is a decent conversation, right, But it was mostly like

(03:20):
this this woman who's a creator, I can't remember her
name off the top of my head, but she was.
She was interviewing Seth and it kind of became this
conversation where she was sort of picking his brain on
kind of what she should do next, and I guess
what she was struggling with as a professional creator, and
that was sort of fascinating, I guess, and and sort

(03:41):
of one of the you know, advantages of being able
to have a platform and have an audience is that
you can have conversations with people that most of us
would sort of just have to watch him afar or
have to pay to to sit down with, right and
anybody not familiar. Seth Godin is like a marketing expert.
He invented email marketing, and he is the author of

(04:02):
the book The Tipping Point, which is kind of like
one of those cornerstone marketing and I think like branding
or more like marketing and advertising books that like everybody
should read if you're an entrepreneur and you're trying to
like sell something. He talks about like how things sort
of become mainstream or how they find an audience, and

(04:24):
that's sort of the tipping point from like how something
goes from obscurity to then being culturally relevant to profitable, right,
And I always kind of revisit that book randomly. I'll
just like open different pages and hear different case studies
that he talks about in it to kind of, you know,
give me ideas when I'm in need of some inspiration.
But in this particular conversation, what I found to be

(04:45):
fascinating and it sort of verbalized something that I struggle with, right,
And I'm I'm like, if you haven't noticed, I'm in
a very introspective place of my life. If I could
put a word on this year, and it's a long
ass intro I know, I'll get to the meat of
this conversation, but if I could put a word for

(05:05):
this year, like you know, with hindsight being twenty twenty,
it's a very introspective year. I feel like I am
really doubling down on the idea of awareness, right. And
you know, I've already talked about that a bunch, and
that's one of the cornerstones, the four pillars of conscious living,
the philosophy behind just be my wellness brand. But I

(05:27):
feel like I've doubled down on even further than I
ever have before, and like really just trying to figure
out what makes me tick, What are the things that
I'm exceptional at. Where are the areas that I struggle
Where are the areas that I need to be aware
of that are holding me back from like really crossing
the finish line in a way that I can be
proud of. And my sort of issue that I struggle

(05:53):
with is getting across the finish line. Right, I'll come
up with the million one ideas. I'll be incredibly inspired.
I will hit the ground running harder than anybody you've
ever seen. But once I begin to sort of get
to the end of a project and get to the
place of like, all right, it's time to sort of

(06:14):
button it up, refine it so that we can then
get ready to sort of put it out there into
the world. I then begin to struggle. I then begin
to lose interest in the project. I then begin to
get distracted by the next shiny object, and I lose
a lot of the discipline that I had when I

(06:35):
was very much enthused by the idea. And I've noticed
this even happens in projects that already off the ground
and running. I eventually get to a point where I
get bored with the idea, the concept, whatever it might be.
And this creator was basically asking Seth. She was saying,
you know, she's had a lot of success. She puts

(06:55):
out a lot of videos on like financial literacy, right,
And what she was telling Seth was like, she has
this formula for basically going viral where she can create
a video and she knows exactly how to format it
in a way that's going to get a lot of
views and a lot of attention. Right. That's sort of
it's second nature to her at this point. She's mastered that,

(07:17):
but she wants to branch off into other things, right.
And she was sort of expressing how while she feels
like she's still giving value to people, it's not as
much fun for her to create those videos and she's
not as fired up about it anymore. And I relate
to that a lot with some of the content that

(07:38):
I make for those of you follow me on social media.
You know, some of the basically the piece of content
that I always get the most feedback on what I'm
out and about is like the green screen current events
that I do, and I get fired up about doing
them often, or I I should say initially I found

(08:01):
them to be so fun to sort of try to
put together this minute and a half commentary and a
cohesive thought and be sort of cheeky and making fun
of a situation while also giving information and also providing
value to people. And I loved sort of seeing like, oh, wow,
this is getting great feedback, but eventually, even though it

(08:21):
is again the thing that I'm getting the most feedback
from it, as far as like a content creator standpoint
goes on social media, I find myself struggling to consistently
do them because I'm just uninspired it. It feels like
work now at this point, right, And so I related
to her sort of talking about her content in that
way that even though it's built her this massive following

(08:43):
and she's doing it professionally now, she still finds herself
struggling and sort of wanting to deviate and do other things.
And his answer to that was, you need to keep
doing the thing that is getting you the most results.
That's like, that's the work, right. And basically what he
explained and what I want to kind of dive into

(09:03):
today is what separates people who are hobbyists and people
who do things for a living. And what I mean
by that is, I know there's a lot of people
on here on here or listening to this, that maybe

(09:26):
I have aspirations of doing something other than what they're
doing now. Maybe you already do it. Maybe you have
some side hustles, maybe you have a podcast, you have
a clothing whatever it might be, you want to open
a business, whatever it might be. And I think the
thing that I struggle with in sort of this reflection
as I've been in my cave for the last year, basically,

(09:49):
I recognize that I have a problem when something becomes
my profession as opposed to my hobby. When it's my hobby,
I'm having the best time of the world, and I'm
fired up about it. But once I sort of am
blessed enough to move it into a place of being
my profession, I then start losing discipline. I lose a

(10:12):
bit of that steam, a bit of that fire, And
if I'm having an honest conversation with myself, it is
the reason why I'm not doing certain things that I
want to do right this, Like you know, this is
one of the things that I have to sort of
grasp and master if I want to ascend to the

(10:36):
next level of my career. Essentially, right, and I see
it so much in other people, and I think we
don't have the vocabulary I mean, or just sort of
like it's this awareness around like what's actually happening that
keeps us from crossing that threshold, because you know, we're

(10:57):
always fed these quotes of like, uh, you know, you
do what you love and you'll never work a day
in your life. And I've for a long time called
that bullshit because it does become work, right, And I
feel like that's not spoken about quite enough, you know,

(11:17):
And even for me, I struggle with the fact that,
like my hobbies have become my job, and now what
the fuck do I do for fun? Essentially right, And
there's a lot wrapped around that. But I think for
a lot of people listening, if you're saying, if you

(11:38):
think to yourself, why haven't I been as consistent, Why
haven't I finished that idea? Why haven't I done the
thing that I've wanted to do, tried it, or really
gone about it in a bigger way. I just think
that there's like that one bridge that's missing where we

(12:00):
have to recognize it's going to feel like work and
that's okay, and we have to accept it and treat
it as work and embrace that part of it. And
I think a lot of times, and I'm big on
pivoting and things like that, but I think, and if

(12:20):
I'm rambling iPods, I'm like, again working through this idea
for myself personally as I talk to you about it,
But I think what oftentimes happens. And again, this is
where self awareness because there's no black and white textbook
answer I can give you on to know if you're
truly not into something or if it's just now becoming

(12:44):
the work, and you sort of have to deal with that, right,
But there is a point where the sort of fun, exciting,
energetic part of it sort of stops, and not to
say that it's completely drained out of it, but it
sort of stops just being the fun, energetic thing, and

(13:04):
now you have to switch into sort of suit and
tie operational manager, how do we get this project done? Mode?
And I'm gonna pause there because I want to kind
of get into the meat of this conversation and not
just make this one long intro. So I'm gonna finish
that thought in an army hint this segment, all right,

(13:31):
so peepyback off of what I was just saying, and
I actually want to add, like an indirect quote from
Rick Rubin, the music producer who in his book talks
about this idea, right, And he's talking about obviously the
idea like crafting, songwriting and things like that and writing
and producing, but I think it applies to all that
we're talking about, where he talks about how there is

(13:54):
a point in time where when you first start something,
it's beneficial to not put any expectations on it, to
not have any timetable on it, to not have any
sort of restriction. Almost it's the idea of just sort
of receiving the download, the inspiration and just allowing yourself

(14:18):
to get lost in it like a child, right, and
just see where it goes. But you can't operate in
that mentality the entire time because if you do, you're
sort of just going to keep staying in this mode
of play, which again is not a bad thing, but

(14:43):
you have to understand that that means you then are
just a hobbyist. And I don't say that in a
derogatory way. I think there's beauty in being a hobbyist,
but if you actually have aspirations of something more of
this potentially being your nine to five then you can't
operate as just a hobbyist. You have to find the balance.

(15:04):
And that's what makes something like entrepreneurship so difficult, and
what makes having a making a living off of what
you love so difficult, because a lot of people find
it easy to tap into the hobbyist part of themselves, right,
the part of you that just gets fired up and
gets lost in it and it's like the greatest thing
ever and you realize why life is worth living. But
then they find it difficult to transition into again for

(15:28):
visual purposes, throwing on the suit and tie, getting into
the brass tax of it all, opening up like an
Excel spreadsheet, and getting into that part of the project, right,
And that's sort of the secret sauce of entrepreneurship, I think,
and why it is so elusive and difficult. You have
to be able to wear both hats. And obviously, if

(15:49):
you're in partnership with somebody and you're the creative brain
and they're like the fucking business person, that's probably the
ideal situation right where they can sort of tell you,
all right, I'm gonna now's the time for me to
do this, do that. But again, it it sort of
reemphasizes that you have to have both in any creative endeavor,
any creative project. In order to actually finish something, you

(16:09):
have to have both sides of that coin, whether you're
the person implementing both sides or you have a partner
who's sort of keeping you in line. Right, And back
to that recruitment thing where he talks about there's a
time and place to sort of just be lost in
the creative download, and then there's a time and place
where you say, we've done enough experimenting, we've done enough play,
we now have to get it across the finish line.

(16:30):
And that's where you begin to implement deadlines and things
of that nature. Right. But his distinction is like, you
don't put a deadline on something creative from the beginning,
You sort of allow it to develop naturally. Then once
it's sort of you have this skeleton idea of what
you want and what it's going to be, you then
place parameters so that you can actually get it across
the finish line. Right. And why this is resonating I

(16:54):
think with me so heavily and careful with the verbiage
that I'm using here, right, because instinctively, when I was
talking about this and speaking out loud. I wanted to
say the reason I'm not where I want to be
is because of X, Y and Z. But a part

(17:16):
of me feels like I'm diminishing all that I have
done and accomplished by using that phrasing. Right, But truthfully,
there are a lot of things that I would have
loved to have done, and I'm not saying that with
any sort of regret. It's a place of reflection of like, Okay,

(17:38):
these were things that I was passionate about that I
loved doing. What was the sort of friction point that
kept me from actually pushing it further? Right and even
beyond me. I look at some of my friends, you know,
and people that I came up with, some of the
most creative people I've ever met, some of the most gifted,
a lot of them naturally more talented and gifted at

(17:58):
like playing an instrument than I am, or even just
art wise and things of that nature, and they sort
of never were able to figure it out. And I
analyze that again, I'm in my cave. I'm in my
sort of self reflection part of my life right now,
really dive into that and trying to fine tune everything.

(18:18):
And I think a lot of my struggle for consistency
and discipline comes with my difficulty in crossing over from
being a hobbyist to being a professional. And I don't
have a problem doing it with something like the podcast. Right.
I'll use this as an example again, Like today, I

(18:40):
got like a creative bug early in the morning. I
think what began to drain a bit of my energy
was like, Okay, I have this creative itch where I
went on a rabbit hole like studying some content creators,
and I was like, that was awesome. I'm taking notes
and that's fun to me. I love like doing case
studies and things like that and analyzing stuff. But then
it was like, oh, all right, do It's like you've

(19:00):
been doing this like an hour and a half. It's
kind of getting into the day. You have things you
actually have to do. You have to record a podcast today,
you have to you know, respond to a couple of
emails and things like that. Like we can't spend all
of our day just deep diving into this, as energizing
as it is, and I think that began to drain
some of my energy. Right. But here I am recording
the podcast, which I love doing. But there's the second

(19:22):
layer of accountability. Right. I have a brand behind me,
a partnership behind me where they've paid me to do
X amount of episodes specifically on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Right,
And I have advertisers and sponsors who have paid to
be a part of X amount of episodes. If I

(19:44):
don't put out an episode, they're not getting their money's worth. Right,
I'm not fulfilling my contract. I'm a violation of my contract. Right,
And that is a checks and balance the system. I
have people who have you know, made thankfully this podcast
a part of their routine, a part of their life.
They've joined me in community for this, and I made

(20:06):
a promise to put out these two episodes every week. Right.
So there's again accountability that is is holding me accountable
to say that, even on the days where it doesn't
feel like a hobby, it feels like a job, I
have an accountability layer that makes me sit down and
do this even when on the days it feels like

(20:27):
a job. And again, truthfully, like sitting here now, I'm
having a great time. I love it. It's it's like
it's like the preparation and then like the idea of like,
oh my god, I have to press record on a camera.
You know, it's like you're mentally the little like you
just build it up in your head. But what I
get once I get lost in the sauce of speaking.
I'm here and I loving it. But what I'm saying

(20:48):
is there's an accountability layer that is making me not
fall short on the promise I made here creatively. Now
on an entrepreneurial venture, or a creative venture where it's
solely just me and I don't have anybody to answer to,

(21:08):
or a project that I'm creating at a thin air
where nobody really knows about it and there's not an
expectation of it coming, then I find myself making excuses
for why I didn't do the task I wanted to
do that day. I find myself sort of questioning if
it's something I even want to do, because now it's
not fun anymore, because if there's I'm putting expectations on

(21:29):
it right. And that's where personally I have struggled. I
have struggled in bringing things across the finish line, and
I end up self sabotaging myself and not sort of
doing the grunt work. That is needed to finish this
idea of this concept, and we're gonna we're gonna take

(21:53):
a quick break here. I'm gonna pause on that because
I know it's talking for a minute, but I want
to say, if you've gotten this far and you don't
relate to this one hundred percent, use this as a
sort of blueprint to self analyze yourself and if there
are things that you feel like you're not doing or
you're not where you want to be the same way

(22:14):
I'm sort of out loud having this introspective moment. I
want you to analyze where you fall in short, right
and forget about any external factors. Where have you fallen
short personally? And where is the pattern? Because I think
there is a pattern for all of us who maybe
have had some false starts or we're not where we

(22:35):
want to be. There's some sort of pattern to be
picked up upon us to why we aren't where we
want to be. So think about that for a second
and I'll be very back. All right, we are back,
and I want to I want to like just also
preface what we're talking about, because I think it can
very easily go down the sort of the toxic road

(23:03):
of being a workaholic as well, and like burning yourself out,
and I want to make sure we're not I'm not
condoning or co signing that. I think there's a really
really fine line there. But again that's where the introspection
and the self awareness sort of comes into play, of knowing,
am I really burnt out? Have I been burning the

(23:24):
candle at both ends here, or am I just sort
of coming down from the sugar high that was the
initial idea and I need to find the extra gear
that allows me to finish this now that it's beginning
to feel like a task or a job. And again

(23:45):
I can't answer that for you. You sort of have
to have that self reflection. But I think in talking about,
you know, sort of my own shortcomings with all this stuff,
you know, like this is one of the major sort

(24:10):
of missing links to why I haven't ascended to where
I want to be, or why I haven't ascended to
what I feel I'm capable of. I think i'd rather
word it that way, because again, I don't want to

(24:31):
diminish all that I've accomplished, but I also know I'm
capable of just so fucking much, right, and just like
inside baseball, you know, because we're all friends here. What
sort of began to I guess send me down this

(24:53):
analyzation of myself was, you know, I'm currently working on
three or four four jeeuz, four really big projects that
are important to me. And I'm laughing because it just
sounds ridiculous when I say it out loud, the fact
that I have like these four big projects that I'm like, oh,
these are priorities and once I finished them, I'll be

(25:14):
able to relax. But it's you know, these these major things,
and I'm like, these are sort of the things that
I think in the short term are going to provide
me with financially where I want to be at this point,
and in the long run are going to build up
more of what I want to do right And all

(25:39):
of them, I was like firing on all cylinders over
the last month and like being able to compartmentalize my
days where I was hitting each and every one of them,
like something for them each day. And I was in
that beginning phase right that I talked about Rick Ruber mentions,
I'm receiving the inspirational download and I'm not like giving
myself a deadline. I'm just saying, like, listen, when the
creative thing just fuck hits, you go work on it,

(26:02):
play with it, and then you you know, you move
on to the next thing that you're fired up about.
And it's a win. As long as we just worked
on it each day for a little bit, it's a
fucking win, right, And that was true. But now we've
moved on to the next phase of it as Okay,
now we're not really in R and D. We're not
in research and development anymore. We're not in creative brainstorming,

(26:26):
you know, we're not in sort of the fun of
like figuring out what this thing is going to be.
We know what it's going to be. We've done the research,
we have a plan in place. Now it's like, all right,
let's fucking start tying up the loose ends. Let's start
like actually getting this ready to be put out there
into the world or in front of the people that

(26:47):
it needs to be in front of. And that's when
I hit a wall. That is when all of the
discipline and energy and excitement for these projects that I
had began to fizzle, It began to diminish. I began
to get sidetracked by other things, right, and other ideas
are coming to me and other things I want to,

(27:08):
you know, spend my time doing. And I am sitting down,
you know. One of the projects is I'm writing a
new book, and this one, you know, the goal is
to work with a publisher on it. And I'm I'm
getting it basically, getting like the pitch ready for it
and having like some of the sample writing from it
and you know, the outline and all these different things. Right,

(27:29):
and now that we're like past the point of like
exploring the creative ideas and uh, and now I just
actually have to like write summaries and plans and things
like this the same time that I would designate. I
used to I would write at like seven a from
like seven am to about nine I'm sitting there with
my laptop in front of me. I'm getting sidechecked. I'm

(27:51):
going on my phone. I am, you know, checking emails
at that time. But I never normally would, right, I'm
doing anything to avoid to avoid the work, because it's
now cross to the point of no longer being the
fun thing. It's now become the job that it needs
to be. Right now, it's crossed over for me being
a hobbyist to me being a professional, and I need

(28:16):
to now show up as a professional and hold myself
accountable on a project that you know, there's there's no
real accountability aside from my own self. Right if I
stopped doing it now, nobody would even know until basically
I just told you guys this right now. And that's

(28:36):
where I went down this path of like, fuck, I
am struggling. I am so close to the finish line
on this project, and I'm self sabotaging myself because I
am letting myself get distracted by doing anything and everything
other than just this fucking finite task that needs to
get done. And I said a deadline for myself, like
this week, we're done with the fucking book pitch, Like

(28:58):
this is the this week is done, and we move
on to finishing up the next project. Because you have
all these half done projects, these half done great ideas,
and you just keep on getting distracted by the new,
next shiny thing. And that's my glaring issue holding me

(29:18):
back in my professional life. And I tried to like
psychoanalyze and like be like, oh, where is this coming from?
What's the deeper thing? Why am I self sabotaging in
this way? And yeah, I think there's a lot of
things that probably come up in that right where it's like,
now it's like a real thing. The pressure is on.
I set this goal. Now we're actually gonna find out

(29:40):
if I achieve it or not. Now I'm inviting other
people to be a part of it, and they're going
to judge it. And you know what if I fail?
What if I thought this was my next big thing
and it fall and I fall flat on my face. Right,
Whereas at least now in this sort of limbo phase,
it's like, oh, I'm working on it. I'm working on it, right,
rather than like having to actually finish it and just
find out if it's what the fuck I hoped it

(30:02):
would be. And uh, yeah, I don't. I I'm using
you guys as my journal for this. I I but
I just I hope this fucking resonates. But it's it's
again like, I guess I want this to be a lesson, right,

(30:23):
as somebody who has figured out how to make a
lot of their hobbies into actual things that bring in
money and and and it is his actual job. Now
this is the biggest struggle, and I think it's something
that we all should be aware of. Is that we
have to throw on a different hat and it doesn't

(30:46):
feel good. Parts of it feel good, right, The chechs
feel great. The validation that somebody wants to professionally work
with you feels great. But there are going to be
aspects of but that feel like a fucking job that
it's unavoidable, right, Just like when you wake up in

(31:07):
the morning, your alarm goes off and you have to
get ready for work, and there are a lot of
days where you're just like, I want to fucking turn
this alarm off and go back to bed, but you
don't because you have to go to work. You have to,
you know what I mean, Like it's your job. There
are gonna be a lot of days like that, even
when you're your own boss, even when you're an entrepreneur,
even when you are doing things that you love doing.

(31:30):
And it's a bitter, tough pill to swallow, but it's
a part of I think achieving the greatness, right, And
I think that is why you look at somebody like
a Tom Brady or a Kobe Bryant. What was the

(31:50):
X factor for them? And I actually love the two
of them as an example, because one Tom Brady was
somebody who wasn't supposed to be a successful NFL quarterback,
let alone the goat. Right. He was drafted I think
in the sixth round, if I'm not mistaken, And Kobe
talks about being a teenager and competing in tournaments and

(32:19):
sort of realizing, wow, I am not at the same
level as everybody, and that for years he sort of
just went His goal was like, every summer, I'm just
going to get better at one more of the fundamentals.
One summer it was free throws, one summer it might
have been dribbling whatever. And he recognized that through that
sort of monotonous routine it made him a better all

(32:43):
around basketball player until he eventually became the best in
his class. Right. But I think that is the differentiating factor.
How do we show up for ourselves and the things

(33:04):
that we love on the days that we don't actually
love them or feel like doing them, right, Because when
you're a hobbyist, it's like, oh, I'm gonna work on
this on the weekend. It's fun if I'm bored, Oh
let me just do my hobby. But when it's your job,
it's like, no, you have to do this shit. And

(33:26):
but I think A real world example of it is
like being a parent. Right. And I say this as
a dog dad, but like, yeah, you're excited about it, right,
I'm so excited to get my pup and I don't
regret it at all. But there are days where I'm like, bro,
I am exhausted. I want to just lay on the
fucking couch all day, and this guy is annoying the

(33:47):
shit of me because he wants to go and run
around outside, right, And I'm just like, bro, I don't
have it in me. But guess what, I have no choice.
I made a commitment when I bought the dog that
I have to take care of him and give him
what he needs. And he needs exercise, he needs play, Right,

(34:08):
That's a part of it. Just like with your kids.
I'm sure on days you love them, but there are
days where it feels like a lot of fucking work
and you're like, man, what did I get myself into?
But you still show up, right, because it's a part
of the package that comes with being a parent. And

(34:32):
I think that is I wasn't prepared for that coming
into being a creative or an entrepreneur, whatever it might be.
And I've seen it amongst a lot of my creative

(34:59):
friends where they keep jumping to the next thing, myself
included at times the second the second that they're like
have a minor inconvenience with the thing they were once
passionate about, right when it becomes exhausting when you have

(35:22):
to fit it into your schedule at weird times or
whatever it might be. Or you know, I have friends
who are doing creative stuff professionally, and you know, for

(35:42):
the sake of example, I have a friend who does
like video and graphic design stuff for a living. Now
you know, he's doing it with a creative agency, and
you know, that was like the dream, right and he
got to quit his other job, you know that he
was doing the nine to five and now just does

(36:02):
the video stuff and design work full time. But there's
been times where he's sort of complained that it's like, oh,
but it's like, you know, we're putting out a bunch
of videos and it's not like, you know, stuff I'm
super passionate about, like super creative, you know, like I
want to make more like documentary style stuff and really creative,

(36:24):
and it's like I'm just putting out a bunch of
clips for Instagram and things like that, and yeah, the
goal if that is what you love doing, should be
to be making documentary films then, but this is all
part of that process and part of your professional life

(36:47):
as a creative. Because even if you're making documentary films, right,
that's what you want to do, guess what, there are
gonna be moments within that where there are monotonous tasks
that you don't feel like doing but you have to do. Right,
Maybe you have to sit there and put together a
list of equipment that you're going to rent, and that's
probably super fun the first few times. Eventually it's like,

(37:09):
do I really want to fucking sit here and go
through a list of all these lenses and this? And
then what I mean? Right? No, I want to be
out on the street filming. I want to be doing
cool editing effects all these things. No, but you have
to set up interviews, or you have to do you
have to manage people, whatever it might be. Like, there's
always going to be those monotonous tasks that are associated
with you doing what you love doing, right, the things

(37:32):
that you have to do in order to actually make
it a tangible thing rather than just an idea. And
that's what I want, I guess to bring clarity on it.
And I'm speaking to myself about that because I think
a younger version of me would just keep letting himself
off the hook or would prolong things to the point

(37:55):
that it's not even irrelevant anymore. And that's my excuse
why I stopped working on that project. And it's it's
I think it's uh, I don't know. It's it's like
I I don't want to rob anybody of like the
fucking fantasy of doing what you love for a living,

(38:16):
but you're sort of gonna have to keep reinventing that
fire while simultaneously doing the shit that has now become monotonous, right,
And I'll kind of end there on the other part
that Seth Godin talks about, like he says, double down
on the things that are working, Right, who care you're

(38:36):
you're not as fired up about them anymore. If they're working,
you have to keep doing them. That's what makes you
a professional, not a hobbyist. And now simultaneously find other
things within that that now are the new idea that
fires you up and makes you feel just as excited. Right. So,

(38:57):
for the sake of example, for for me, I talked about,
like the those green screen current event videos that I
do on my Instagram that are like my most viewed
and engaged posts. For me, I'm like, if I'm not inspired,
if I'm not inspired by a story, I'm not going
to talk about it, right, and like, so I'll go
weeks without something. But the reality is, I'm doing myself
a disservice when people are interested in that content a lot.

(39:19):
So in order for me to fix that and to
keep operating at a high level as a as a
professional creator, I need to show up and do those stories.
Just as I would if I was on the radio
every day and we had to talk about something new
every day, I would find a way to keep talking
about those things, right, I wouldn't be able to let
myself off the hook because I have an audience waiting

(39:39):
for me. I have to look at it in that way,
and then simultaneously, the content that is new and exciting
to me go fuck around and do that as well.
But I think what oftentimes happens, what I'm guilty of,
is completely abandoning what's working because it's now lost it's
shineaness to me personally, and then I just jump to

(40:02):
the next exciting thing, and I keep that fucking pattern
going over and over again, and it's why I haven't
been able to, I think, build something that I personally
feel like I can stand behind completely. And I don't like,
I'm fearful that this episode is like unrelatable to anybody. Uh,

(40:24):
And I hope that I am I'm wrong here, but
I think again, like what I'm I'm I'm fucking optimizing
right now. This is what I'm doing right I am
optimizing the shit out of how do I, like get
even better than I have been? How do I recreate success?
How do I create sustainable success? I'm self analyzing and

(40:47):
having introspective moments like fucking crazy right now. And I
think that if you want to take away one thing
from this, it's that it's analyze the shit about how
your mind works, good, bad, whatever, so that you can
help yourself get into a better groove that keeps allowing

(41:07):
you to recreate and have more and more continuous success.
And I'm gonna pause it there because I'll kind of summarize.
I think, I feel like that's a great sort of
summary that we'll do in conclusions do but first we'll
take a quick break and then we'll be right back

(41:29):
time for comp all Right. So, I think, summarizing that
fucking brain dump that I just laid on you, I
think we just have to have very real conversations with ourselves, right,
And I think life is so like I think success

(41:56):
as far as professional goes right, Like I I want
to just talk about that. I think today we're talking
more about like career success. Right. What I've begun to
sort of realize is it's very formulaic. The people who
have found continued success are following a sort of often unspoken,

(42:17):
unseen formula, whether it be in the way that they
approach it, right, they're following a formula that speaks to
their strengths and compensates for their weaknesses. Right. So like
for me right now, I have to just be hyper
aware of where my weaknesses lie and do my best

(42:39):
to sort of counteract them and try to put systems
in place that allow me to not fall victim to
them as often at least, right, And the long term
solution in that would be having a sort of partner,

(43:08):
a business partner who my sort of weakness or my
lack of strength in the area of deadlines and sort
of project management. That's their strength, right, where I can

(43:35):
then focus on doing a lot of the creative and
then when it's time, they can step in and give
me the structure that I need to successfully complete a
project or idea or successfully do it on a consistent
basis like this podcast. Right, The system that I have

(43:56):
in place with my partnership with Michael Tura gives me
the structure I need to consistently do this, and that awareness,
I think, is going to allow me to begin to
create a formula based off of what has worked and

(44:20):
then now apply it to other parts of my life. Right.
So I'm like another stream of consciousness within this. Right.
Why has this podcast worked, the partnership work. It's because
of what I just displayed to you. I'm allowed to
be freely creative and do what I have to do,
but my go through to created structures and guidelines in
order for me to do it consistently. So now that's

(44:42):
the formula. Every other project I work on, I need
to recreate that formula as best as I can to
give myself the best opportunity for success. Right. And obviously
there are going to be things beyond my control, beyond
your control, but at least you can check all the
boxes say, Okay, I did everything I could to produce

(45:03):
the best product or the best version of myself for
this project. And yeah, maybe it might fail because of
whatever the market, or it might fail because people didn't
latch onto the idea or my part, whatever it might be.
But at least I know I followed a formula that
gave me the best fighting opportunity. And I think that
is what successful people do over and over again. They

(45:27):
have a formula that gives them the best odds. And
I think I touched on this a bit with the
Doctor Paul Riveda that episode, But again, it's like just
really fucking hyper self awareness stuff. And also, I think
on the topic of hobbyists versus professional it's okay to

(45:50):
be a hobbyist. There's a blessing in that too. Maybe
you don't want to do the entrepreneur thing. I've kind
of come around on that. And I don't think it's
for everybody, And I don't mean I don't think that
if it's for you, you're better than people who it's not for.
We're all different. I think there's value in a nine

(46:14):
to five, right if that's the way your brain thinks,
and you could find a company that has a corporate
a corporate you know, culture that is in spire that
is like makes you feel good and it's work that
you don't hate doing. And then on the on the
weekends you want to I don't know, knit sweaters because

(46:35):
that's like something you're passionate about. That's a fucking win
as well. So again it's like it's knowing yourself and
knowing what you actually want to do and what I
guess you're actually capable of right or what speaks to
you you know. Uh, and and I I think I

(46:59):
think that is sort of the bigger game here. But
again it's it's you know. But if you say to yourself, now,
I want to make a living doing something I love doing,
or a creative project or whatever it might be, you
have to understand that you're gonna be at a point
where it feels just like you're nine to five. It

(47:19):
feels it. Probably it's gonna feel better because it's like
I love this thing and it inspires me, but there
are gonna be times where it brings up a lot
of those same feelings you had for the nine to five.
I don't want to be here I don't want to
do this today. I want to call out I don't
you know what I mean. And the problem is you
actually now have the ability to do it because you're
an entrepreneur. You can call out. You cannot show up
if you wanted to write. Obviously, the consequences are not

(47:42):
going to be in your favor, but that is what
it takes. You have to be able to put on
that professional hat. There's no escaping I guess is my realization.
There's no escaping the work itself, and there's no escape
the days the times you just don't feel like you
have it in you, But you have to figure out

(48:04):
a way to do it and you have to be
okay with that if this is your journey. I hope
this resonated with somebody. This was like I needed this,
by the way, so thank you if you just are
entertaining me. But just again, it's this is just awareness.

(48:28):
This is shit. You should be writing in your journal
as well, like about your where your mind is thinking
and observations. I'm constantly observing and trying to tweak and
optimize and I will be to the day I die. Right,
That's the beauty of us as human beings is like
our endless potential for growth, And it takes having these
sort of conversations with yourself and I think placing responsibility

(48:53):
on yourself rather than blaming any sort of external factor.
Where have I fallen short? And when you do that,
then it's like, oh, now I can optimize, right, because
I can easily be like people just don't get me.
They're not giving me the opportunities that I want. It's like, no,
I'm not I'm not going to allow myself to blame
external things. The reality is what am I not doing

(49:15):
to reach the right people? What am I not doing consistently?
Or what am I not doing to connect with people consistently?
What can I do to do more of that to
build a deeper connection, a deeper level of community. Right,
that's a very different thought process than people just don't

(49:35):
understand me and they're not ready for it, just what
it is, because now I actually can work on this
and get better and hone my craft and put myself
in a better position for success, rather than just sort
of throwing my arms up and you know whatever, leaving
it up to fate or chance. And that's a whole
other topic of conversation. Anyway, I'm gonna stop now because
I literally could do this for two hours. I have
obviously a lot on my mind as far as like

(49:57):
me just having so much time to myself, which has
been a blo blessing where I'm really just trying to
get better in so many different ways. With that said,
thank you all so much for listening DM me at
DJ Dramas. If this resonated in some sort of fucking way,
I would genuinely I need I need a little bit
of that extra validation and let me know if this
hit for anybody, because I wanna. I want to optimize

(50:21):
providing value as well with the podcast. And yeah, that's it.
Uh and and we join the just be Social Club.
I appreciate you good DMA for that. Again, I'll give
you the link er DM. I don't know what I said.
You could DM me for that. I've been slacking on that.
I promise once I finish up these projects that I'm
like knocking out right now, we're getting cross to fish.
I'm gonna be putting a lot more attention into that.

(50:43):
But we're building slowly, but surely we are building. With
that said, thank you so much again for tuning in
I'll catch you on Thursday with a brand new episode
for a Thursday Trends episode. Until then, to stay safe
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