January 8, 2026 • 36 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel welcome 2x Super Bowl Champion Logan Ryan to the podcast! Logan talks about his journey from the football field to being a broadcaster. Logan had the chance to call Myles Garrett getting the sack record, but was it worth a stoppage of play? Mike Vrabel has brought a new swagger to the Patriots and coaches regardless of winning or losing.
How does the game change during the playoffs? Logan look the matchup between the Chargers and Patriots. The Bills are headed to the Jaguars and Matt wonders if Jacksonville is being overlooked. How does a rivalry matchup between the Packers and Bears change in the playoffs? Looking at the 49ers/Eagles matchup, Logan feels this game comes down to coaching.
If the MVP award is between Drake Maye or Matthew Stafford, who does Logan think wins it? Bobby asks how much prep time Logan has for the games he's calling. Moving over the College Football, Logan gives his thoughts on NIL and the Portal. How does it affect the players going through college and ultimately the NFL?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Here's everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We're going to talk with Logan Ryan In a second
Logan played to the Patriots, the Titans, Giants, the Bucks,
and the Niners before he ended. He's got two Super
Bowl rings which we got to wear them.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We went to his house. Yeah, it was really nice.
I put one on my toe. Have you met him?
He was on my team and with the Titan I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh okay, Yeah, you guys did not cross over with
the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
No, we didn't cross over. He came in after me.
I think he was drafted in thirteen. I want to say,
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Do you guys, are you around each other at all?
If you're on the offense and he's a defensive player.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Not as much as you, because offense kind of does
their own thing. Defense does their own thing. But when
you come into a locker room, you've got team meetings,
all that stuff, and you're eating, we're pretty much around
each other, and so I got to know Logan and
he is an exceptional person.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Great dude.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And then when you see him as a player, I
mean he was the true definition of professionalism. He'd come in,
he'd be prepared, he'd work hard in practice. He had
a great motivational voice for that defense. You saw him
always communicating, doing all those things. So I just always
had the utmost of respect for him and loved him
as a guy.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Both of you guys have baller kid kids, athlete kids.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean, they better be or they're not. They're getting
water in their cereal. Don't come home with a loss.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Is that a thing? Water in cereal as a punishment? No,
I've never heard that. If you just came up with that,
that's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I did hear somebody say that one time, and I
was like, that's actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, he should have taken credit for it. I came
up with it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Drafted in the third round, went to Ruggers, won two Super
Bowls all NFL rookies, and interceptions with five and twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah. Super great guy.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And if you go onto YouTube you can look for
an episode we did at his house. I got to
know loadan a little bit because he was back here
doing some stuff and he came into the show and
we talk about all this.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But we went to his house and uh, he's such
an athlete.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh, he's a freaking We've played pickleball though, and I
would go back and replay him because we played pickleball.
It was super windy on his court.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh are you making excuses? Did he beat you?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I wasn't in my pickleball game yet. I hadn't really focused.
He has a court. I hadn't really started to be
the player that I am now, right, so you've evolved.
It would be like playing defense against you in high
school and claiming that you were way better than Matt Castle.
You didn't get to who you were. That's fair.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So he played high school me. Now I'm Matt Castle.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So you would go out there? You think if you
went back, I think I would take head to head, Yeah,
and take him down. Yeah, I feel pretty. I mean
I kind of want to watch that. I mean we
set this up.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, I'm still but I'll be back soon. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
We love him, and.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Let's go over to him house. It's like I've watched
him turn into a butterfly. He was a he's a
little caterpillar when I met him in the in the
world of broadcasts, and he said, I'm going to be
somebody someday, and I've watched him be somebody. He's now
an alms for CBS and he's also the co founder
of Ryan Animal Rescue Foundation, which supports shelters and rescues
through funding, education, and adoption focused initiatives. If you want
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more information about that, r a r F dot org
here he is Logan, Ryan Logan.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What's up, buddy? What's up? Guys?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, the first time we met, it was you going,
I think I'm retired and I think I'm going to
try to do broadcast, and.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now you're killing it. Look at look at this. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I don't know about killing and I'm trying, but I
would say, you put me on, Bobby. I hopped on
your show a few years ago, and you told me,
you know, I would be okay at this one day,
and you're you're you know, you were taking pj's to
your comedy shows and whatnot one day. That's what I
want to be when I grow up. I want to
be Bobby Bones.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So how did you guys meet? You guys did a
show together.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
He was in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
He came.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
He just came by the show. We hung out, but
then we stayed in touch and he's done the show
and I went to his house and worked out with them.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
He wants to like guys worked out.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Man. He came to the barn. People know about the
Ryan family ranch we have here in Tampa, and Bobby
came to the barn. He came to the weight room.
We did some one on one routes out there that
you can imagine how that went down. I think I
was just quarterbacking though.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah you're quarterback and given us tips.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I want to say this before we talk about ball,
is that is there a single seven year old that
can touch your kid on the playing soccer. I watched
his whole highlight tape last night. Watch the whole thing.
Is he heads and shoulders above everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
We don't know, right, I don't know all the seven
year old's ranked. I think there's people that like literally
ranked seven year old teams. That's that's pretty sad. But
we did take him out to LA because we heard
that's where the best seven year olds are and my
son doesn't really play his age, usually plays up with eight,
nine and ten year olds. But he had a chance
to go with the top seven year olds they say
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in LA and he was head and shoulders better than them.
So he did his thing. I'm happy for him. He
works really hard and a lot of people think he's
just good because he's my son. I'm not that good
at soccer two different sports, and he works really hard
at it and he has big dreams to play for
Team USA one day. So Matt as you know, I
know you got a bunch of those kiddos. Yeah, yeah,
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none of them are ranked right now either.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm not taking my kids out of state to go
get ranked though, I promise you that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But yeah, we got a bunch of it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And we just put up to see what the competition
was like. He went did his thing, So it's cool,
and you know he's you learn a lot from being
an athlete, and he knows, he knows, he's learning what
that's like. And if you want your dreams, I'm gonna
support it, but I'm gonna show you what it takes
to be those things, which he knows a lot of
hard work.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know now that you're in media and come over
to the dark side a little bit. But what's been
the most rewarding part of being able to explain the
game through your eyes now that you're in the media.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I mean, I think that's it right there, right I
just try to be a bridge, I guess, from the
players to maybe some guys in media that haven't been
around the game in a long time. I think the
game has changed, Matt, as you know, a lot of
offense has changed, a lot of defense I've changed, and
being recently retired, like from two seasons ago, I'm able
to kind of tell that story and you know, fortunate
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to be able to call Myles Garrett, yeah, you know,
Sack there the other day and explain what that's like.
I mean, I don't know what that's like as a player,
but the best I could, I think was a really
cool moment in my media career to be able to
be on that call for a historic call like that.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Let's talk about that specifically, since you brought that up.
Zach Taylor after the game, a little upset that they
stopped the game, although I didn't feel like it was
like a Lebron type stop where they stop and throw confetti.
It was quick, and then they celebrate on the sideline.
Did you feel like that stoppage because it was a
very pivo part of the game, did you feel like
that was too much? Then?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I don't know what Zacha was told by the refs.
We were told from CBS, from the production that if
Miles were to get the sack early in the game
or in the first half, they would they would stop
the game, but if the game was competitive or down
the stretch, they wouldn't. That's what we were told because
we have to know how much time to talk about it,
replay it. That was in the fourth quarter of a
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one score game, and you know, I don't know if
the Bengals were expecting the Browns have to call time out,
use a timeout to have it. But when it happened,
the Bengals were in tempo and the Browns all rushed
the field, so they all all the I mean, there's
not twelve men on the field, there's thirty seven men
in the field, right, and the Bengals are lined up like, hey,
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like we're in tempo, We're trying to keep the tempo going.
So they felt like it really messed up their flow.
But that's such a historical, historical play and the game
had no meaning other than draft order and whatnot. So
I think it's a very unique, unique situation. But I
see both sides. I see the Bengal side of it
because they weren't told that that was going to happen.
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And I see the refs the NFL say hey, man,
like we got to honor this, So there was it
was not clearly explained. We were told something differently on
TV that didn't play out.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, but I agree with you. It wasn't for a
division title.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
This is a record that's been standing for what twenty years,
and Miles Garrett just did something that was extraordinary. I
think that the game needed to be stopped at that
point just to recognize the moment.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
True, I definitely feel like that moment, you know, needed
to happen. But on Zactaeil's defense, he don't know if
he's getting fired. Maybe he does or doesn't. You don't
know if these last games matter in terms of your
job security and whatnot, and you want to win the
game as well. I think the Browns should have been
used to time out. Okay, stop the game. A call
time out for the Browns to give Mile Garrett his moment,
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So I feel like that's what it is called time
out for that moment. But regardless, the game should have
been stopped. And I'm happy for Miles. He's really deserving.
When you get to know the guy, he's obviously a
freak of nature, but he works really hard at it
and he's a historian of the game. He's a really good,
good person, So I think he's deserving.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You played for Vrabel as he was coaching in a
playoff game. I believe what what does he say to
you guys, and what does he say to his team
in New England?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Can you give me a little background in that?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well? I think Rabel like the playoffs aren't out of reach.
When Mike Raile was your coach, he's making that a
true possibility. Similar in New England, Matt, where you know
the season going the start traft for Thanksgiving, we got
to still getting better and you know, New England won
a lot of games this year, probably more than a
maybe some of these players thought, but Mike, you know,
always says like I'm going to coach the wins as
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hard as I coach the loss, so it doesn't catch
up to us. And I think that's why the Patriots
haven't been caught up on because although they're succeeding and
people aren't expecting it, they're expecting it. And they're also
getting coach hard after their wins, which prepare you for this.
So I think he takes a game by game and
he makes you believe, like, Yo, we win the next game.
Oh man, we're in a divisional round. Oh we're a
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game away from the super Bowl. Who would have thought
Mike Rabel Troy believes he can coach to win every
single game. And he's literally good enough to give his
team a chance to win every single game just by
coaching alone, because he's as good as any coach.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I played.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Talk a little bit about that mentality because a lot
of people don't understand how they hold you accountable. And
like the New England system that we grew up in
and now Mike Vrabel and what that exactly means, because
I feel like it almost was harder during wins versus losses.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, so if you lost a game in New England,
it's almost like it caught up to us. Right, these
habits of not closing out games, right, say we're up
by three touchdowns, you're on defense and the coaches say, hey,
we're up three touchdowns, but don't let your guard down.
Close the game out and you let the team the
other team score a meaningless touchdown and you win by
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fourteen instead of twenty one. Well, then when you're in
a tight game and they score that meaningful touchdown, it's like,
we've told you, guys for three weeks. And that's how
Mike Rabel is like, you never know when that mistake
is gonna cost us. You fumble when you're up, you're like,
oh whatever, who cares. But then you fumble in the
final two minutes of a game, right, So he's he's
coaching in the wins equally as hard. So when you lose,
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it's almost like, see, this is a habit that we
let go, and a lot of other teams are Some
teams just coach the result. Oh we won, we're not
going to watch the tape. Oh we won, the fumble
doesn't matter. He's kind of coaching the habits the same,
if not harder, in the wins, so that when you're
in the tight game, when you're in the playoffs, you're
not making these careless mistakes that end up costing you
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your season. So I just think he coaches ahead of it.
He doesn't coach a result. He coaches the habits. And
that's something you got to get used to as a
player because you're always judge on your results. You won
the game, everybody's great, you lost the game, You're the
worst player in the world. I think rabel Stay is
much more level headed than that, and that's what you
need in the playoffs because there's that much pressure in
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those moments of you know, your season.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Ending, does it amplify how much does it amplify as
you're going into week one of the playoffs from regular
season to you know, starting the tournament.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
It's March madness. It's a truly whole new season. Like
it literally does not matter what you did. Obviously, seeding matters,
but you know in the season you're gonna pull from
the players you know that made plays and you can trust,
Like who can I trust to win the game? I
think you got to understand that both coaching staffs are
normally good. You know, that coach on the other side
had a really good year two that quarterback on the
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other side had some comeback wins as well, So that
team's used to winning as well, you're not. Sometimes in
the NFL you play teams that once they start doing bad,
they can't bounce back, where just because you're up against
the Chiefs doesn't mean they're not going to come back, right,
So everything's amplified because the person on the other side
of the ball is equally as good as you, And
I think it's going to come down to little things
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and those practice habits and all that stuff pays off.
But it's completely a whole new season, Bobby, I think
with the NFL being as wide open as it is
this year, not having the big dog quarterbacks in the race,
not having Mahomes and Burrow and Lamar Jackson's completely wide
open and you're gonna have the most upsets or I
would say lower seeds winning games in my opinion, that
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we've had in the playoffs in a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, look at this matchup that's coming up between the
Chargers and the Patriots. When you look at the Chargers
and Herbert, the explosive nature of it, what does the
Pats defense need to do. Is it contain him in
the pocket. Is it to limit explosives pressure? Like, what's
your key for the defensive unit for the Patriots to
slow down this Chargers offense.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I'm comfortable with this matchup. I really am for the Patriots.
I think the Patriots pull this off. They got to
limit the explosive plays. I look at the Chargers. Herbert's
been beat up. They obviously rested him, so you can
think he's gonna feel a little fresher. But their offensive
line has been decimated. They don't have their tackles and
that's been a huge part. So the Patriots don't have
elite edge rushers, but they have a really good team
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pass rush, and I think against a banged up OH line,
that's gonna work really well. I look at their receivers.
They have Keenan Allen and Ladd McConkie, elite route runners,
but possession guys. And I look at the Patriots. They
have Carlton Davis and Christian Gonzalez. These guys stay square,
they put hands. They're not gonna create a lot of
separation against those corners. So I really like the Patriots
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dbs matching up in this. I really like the d line,
so I feel as if defensively they match up really
well against the Chargers. Charge are gonna try to run
the ball, but as long as they don't let up
the big plays, I don't see how the Chargers put
up enough points on the other side of the ball.
Drake May so good against man end zone defense. The
Chargers live in zone defense. He's been so good all
year Drake May that is so I think he'll be
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comfortable back there picking apart the zone defense. If the
Chargers run, and as long as they don't like turn
the ball over give up crazy flukey explosive plays. I
think the Patriots methodically run away from the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The Bills and Jags are super interesting to me because
it's Josh Allen. Can he finally do it? Versus the Jags.
Nobody really expected them to be here, and they've developed
us against the world mentality. Did you ever play on
a team that was a we're not getting respect, us
against the world mentality.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That's literally the Tennessee Titans. I mean that's I left
the Patriots to the Titans in free agency and we
got Mike Rabel and Bobby you know, we end up
being like a sixth seed going on the run. We
beat We beat Tom Brady in his last game, which
is hard to do. We beat you know the fourteen
and two Baltimore Ravens that had MVP Lamar Jackson, and
we were literally called the hyenas. Like Tom Brady put
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out a video before our first game, before the wildcard game,
al he was the king of the jungle and it
was like a lion and Rabel took the video put
it in our meeting and was like, well, if he's
a lion, we're a pack of hyenas. So he had
like a bloody hyena picture of of a hyena's hunting
a pack and they're like the disrespect. You know, they
live in the shadow realm in Lion King. I don't
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know if you saw, they're not allowed to touch the light.
So we literally rode the whole hyena wave and where
you know a famous old tall tale a half away
from beating Patrick Mahomes and going to the super Bowl
as a six seed. So I literally felt that exact
thing that the Jags are feeling when I was on
a you know, Tennessee Titan in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know, the more I watched Jacksonville too offensively, I
think Trevor Lawrence is playing the best football of his career.
He's got what thirty nine touchdowns, threw for over four
thousand yards. He's on a roll, but also defensively, they're
number one rush defense in the league, thirty one takeaways.
Do you feel like Jacksonville could absolutely run away with
this game or do you think this is going to
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be a four quarter game all the way down to
the wire.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I think the first quarter is going to tell the story.
And the first game I called NFL game of my
career this year was Jacksonville at Sincy when Joe Barrow
got hurt and I sat down with the production meetings
behind the scenes, Liam Cohen's legit like Jacksonville found their
coach for a long time. He had so much you
talk about accountability, I mean he was on Trevor Lawrence
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early in that game on the sideline, yelling at Trevor
Lawrence talk about how much untapped potential there was there.
He's you know, he comes from that RAMS system, Matt
where the running game is really complex and a lot
of checks in the line of scrimmage. He wanted to
get rid of Trevor Lawrence's wristband and make Trevor Lawrence
learn to plays and the and the checks. So I
felt like accountability was similar to Vabel on the defensive side.
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Anthony Campanelli their DC coached me at Rutgers. Crazy Italian dude,
So Jersey Italians a get so he's fiery. They got
turnovers a lot this year. They have a really good
defensive team and they're gonna run the ball. They can
run the ball and the Bills. And if they can
run away from the Bills and run the ball and
keep Josh Allen on the bench, that's how they get
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it done. I do think that the Bills are sleeping giant.
I don't think the Bills. I don't think it's the
best Bills seem Josh had, but he is the big
dog in the playoffs. And if Josh Allen doesn't get
it done this year, he's not going to have years
about Mahomes in it. He's not gonna have many years
about Burrow or Lamar Jackson. And this is the easiest
path for him. So I don't think Josh Allen's MVP
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this year. But I think he's the best player in
football in terms of size, speed, arm, talent, running ability,
create creatability. I think he's the best player in football.
And I think that if the game is close. Josh
Allen's going to have too many possessions down the stretch
to be Josh Allen. So I think that the Bills
do get it done. But if Jacksonville gets up early
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and is able to keep the ball away from with
that running game and at TN and all that, then
maybe don't give Josh Allen the chance.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
We talked about the playoffs being amplified for everybody, but
also when it comes to a rivalry game in the
playoffs Packers and Bears, that's a rivalry game. They've played
two of the last three weeks. Anyway, whenever you're playing
a rival in the playoffs again, does it elevate even
higher or is the rivalry kind of off because it's
all playoffs.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
It elevates higher. I mean, you don't like your division
teams as much. You see them so much. Both teams
are very in tune with what each other's calling and whatnot,
So strategy goes. Are they gonna do what they did
last time? Are they gonna try something different? You probably
can overthink that. You know, I know both those games
were thrillers, like one, you know, the Bears could have
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won and the Packers get to pick the end the game.
The other one, the Packers could have won an onside
kick and the Bears win the game. So it's truly
a coin flip, I do think, and there's no Michael
Parsons in this one, but the Bears have been very
turnover based. A lot of turnovers have led to their wins.
When not able to get the turnovers, obviously they don't
win as much. And I just I'm gonna lean on
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experience again and go with Jordan Love and Lafloor here.
And this might be an upset. This is an underseed.
I told you lower seeds are gonna win. I have
the Bills winning as a lower seed. I have the
Packers winning, but it's gonna come down to one of
those final plays. And I just think Lafloor and Jordan
Love have more time together. With that, I think the
future is bright. I think Chicago's had a great year.
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I think they got a great head coach with Ben Johnson.
But I just think that Jeff Hathley's gonna be a
head coach next year, and I think he's gonna do
a defensive masterpiece here, and it's gonna be a tight
one down to stretch. But I'm gonna think Josh Jacobs
might be the best player in the game, and I
think he's gonna have a big game against the Bears.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Forty nine ers at the Eagles. I mean, I'm excited
for this game. But what's your thoughts on this one?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, you know I say this sometimes on CBS and
whatnot on my podcast that you know, football is not
as a twelve v twelve sport, not eleven be eleven.
It's your eleven plus you're a play caller, and it's
Robert Salah and the defense who's banged up versus the
Eagles eleven. But their play caller is not that great
offensively obviously this year they've had some woes. And then
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obviously Vic Fangio versus Yle Shanahan is like Hall of
Fame play calling on both sides there. So look, if
the Niners won last week, then they're the one seed
and people might have called them Super Bowl favorite. Then
they lose the game and now they got to go
to the Philly on the road as an underdog. It's
crazy how the NFL works. Christian McCaffrey's Special OFFENSEI Player
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of the Year Saquan I played with as well, really special.
I just feel like a little insider here. I was
at forty nine er in my last season. The forty
nine ers feel comfortable playing against Jalen Hurts. They truly
have a game plan rush that I'm not gonna tip
too much, but you'll see where they feel comfortable playing
against Jalen Hurts. They've always felt comfortable playing the Eagles.
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They felt as if if Perry doesn't get hurt. They
went at MBC championship a couple of years ago, and
obviously that's a big if, and who knows. So I'm
gonna go with the Niners and the coaching I truly do.
I think that's a big upset. But this is true.
Fifty to fifty, I could see why the Eagles win it.
They're healthier. I don't think Sirianni resting his starters were smart.
I think that's gonna bite them. I think the inconsistently
on play calling all year from the Eagles. I think
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they lose this game. It's not good for Siriani. So
I think the decision to not play your guys when
you have something to gain has something where the Niners
had a lot to play for and loss. I think
the Niners can rally here and hopefully hold on to
Fred Wanner gets back. But I've been Niners pulling off
a close one and this is truly a coin flip.
I'm gonna go with the Niners.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
MVP Stafford, Drake May, Drake.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
May both great years. I can't believe Matt Stafford's never
had MVP vote or won MVP before. That's kind of surreal.
But I look at you know, Matt Stafford's throwing to
Devonte Haddam to Puka Nakula, which is as good as
it gets a lot of red zone touchdowns at PAD,
those stats can't knock. It's what Peyton Manning used to do.
But I'm gonna go with Drake May to see that
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Drake May has been as efficient as he has every
single game. No real bad games from Drake May. All
year fourteen wins with Mike Rabel fourteen wins and Matt
you can maybe talk to first year in a new system. Yeah,
how hard it is for a quarterback Stafford's been with
McVeigh for a few years. When you're throwing a Steph
Diggs and matc Collins as opposed to Pukinnakula, Devontey Adams,
No shade on anybody. I'm gonna go with Drake made
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the consistency. How hard that is to do with this
roster the Patriots have. I think he's been more valuable
of a player.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Do you in season? How early do you get told
what game you're going to?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It's typically in season, maybe maybe three weeks out. You know,
obviously they're gonna send Romo and the A crew to
the top game. They know about three weeks out when
it gets toured, like week eighteen, and some games had
no meetings, some games had tons of meeting Miles Garrett's
game had a little bit of meaning because of that
sack record. That was like six days out. Like I
knew on Monday night Tuesday that my game was Cleveland,
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and I was excited about that. Joe Burrow's angle, Cleveland's angle,
Miles Garrett, the future Shadore. Obviously it could have been
Kansas City Raiders, which don't have a lot, but that's
Travis Kelsey's last game. I came in Potentially, I came
in with Travis Kelce played him in college for four
so it's like, wow, how crazy is that I came
in with this guy in the draft, knew them and
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covered him in college. And now I'm potentially calling Travis
Kelsey's last game of his Hall of Fame career. So
I try to find meeting and everything I'm calling. But
I think I got that assignment like six days before
the game.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Is your prep work for these games more film study
and interviews and stuff like that, more so than what
you ever went through when you played.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, you know, if I don't know everyone, there's no like,
here's how you become an analyst, Here's how you prepare
for a game. I think everybody's different, Matt, But I
just kept my NFL prep work. So you know, I
watched the last three games of both teams, you know,
on Monday, and then you know, Tuesday, I start breaking
out side the ball. The problem is when I'm playing,
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I just watch the other team's offense. Now that I'm
calling the game, I have to watch both teams offenses
and both team's defenses. So it's literally like double or
triple the amount of film because I'm just too young
and novice to not put in the work yet. Like
I haven't figured out how to like go wing it yet.
You know, maybe a show just off of the muscle.
I'm not comfortable yet to do that. So it is about,
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you know, fifteen to twenty hours of watching film. The
good thing with me is I either played for or
against everybody, covered everybody still like Oh, I played against
Miles Garrett, I know how good Denzel Will. I played
against Joe Burrow, I covered Jamar Chase. So I have
a lot in my memory bank of what that's like
and I try to bring that on air. But it's
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definitely double the amount of prep I did as a player.
Maybe I'll get more efficient when my contract goes up
money wise and guaranteed, and I'm a little more comfortable,
But right now I'm putting the those rookie hours, that
rookie season hours.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm gonna give you one more question, and let's go
to college for a second. When you watch in the
past couple of days, specifically, it's the portal is open,
and yeah, the portal is janned. Everybody jumps in. Some
guys don't jump in until like today because they know
how much money is now being offered to them. What
do you think about the portal and nil as a whole.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
That's a great question, you know, but obviously it's it's
good and bad, and you know, I think I don't
know how Matt feels, but we all support players getting
paid like we wish we had it. And people asked me,
would you have left Rutgers, you know, if the portals,
I would have transferred three times, you know, because the
money is so big, and that's stuff you can't just
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when you come from not a lot of money. You
can't just say a million dollars isn't worth it or
two million isn't worth it. If you're an All American
player at a smaller school and I look at you know,
the top quarterbacks in college football, they all transferred last year,
and Mendoza made themself some money by transferring, So you
can't argue you the transfer. Do they have any control
of it? No, absolutely not. So obviously they need more control,
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But I do. I do like the fact that talented
players are getting compensated for what they're what they're bringing.
I guarantee you the schools are still making good money
and they're not taking too much of the pie. It's
just a wild wild West. I'm sure there's agents taking advantage.
I'm sure there's a lot of people still taking advantage
of these athletes that I don't know enough about, but
I am a fan of it. I don't like the
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timing and all that stuff. I don't think anybody does.
But I'm okay with players getting paid. If if you
got that, you know, I know, if I was a
tennis player and I was fifteen, I know, if my
son can make money at thirteen playing soccer, you're gonna
make money at thirteen playing soccer. Like, I'm not gonna
be like, you don't need that, Like, no, if you're
gonna be if Nike's gonna pay you, then you're gonna
be a thirteen year old Nike soccer player. So I'm
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not against that part of it.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
The only issue I have with it right now is
now that they're they're putting out these social media eclips.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We just resigned so much resigning.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I was like, you already commit, committed to go to
school there, you played a whole season. What the hell
you talk about re signing. You're just going back to school.
You're just going back to class. Yeah, you're just not
going in the portal.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm back.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Can I ask you guys a question real quick? So
Dylan Rayola, right, he's obviously transferring. And I saw they
said Dylan Royola has loyalty problems, and this guy has
transferred every year since eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes, he went to four different.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
High schools and now he committed to like Georgia, then
he went to Nebraska. Now he's leaving Nebraska. Now I
think in a year or two, Dylan Roola probably what
the top quarterback drafted, he'd.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Be in the conversation potentially.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Right, So you're looking at thirty forty million dollars, So
do you have a loyalty issue if you got your
kid in position or he's in position to make forty
million dollars when it's all said and done, transferring every
year since eighth grade or or what what is your
thoughts on it of how del Royal is family or
him has been moving around so much in his livelihood.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You can go first, Yeah, I think it's a unique situation.
I don't think that's for every player. Because I cover
college football and you go around, you see a lot
of these guys have been to different high schools just
from a competitive standpoint, but not in different states. We're
talking about different states. He was in Arizona, he was
in Texas. He was in Georgia and then ended up
going to Nebraska, and Nebraska made sense because his uncle
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was the O line coach. His father went there was
a legendary player. He's up there on the wall. And
then I can see even when we talked to him
at the media days and we asked these obscure questions
like if you could go anywhere, where to go? And he,
without a hesitation, went Ohio State and I was like, wow,
I mean he immediately said it like that right, And
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so what you start to understand is he's got the
mentality where he wants to go beyond a team that's
going to be able to compete and put him in
a position to be successful.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And whereas Matt Ruhle told us.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
When we were in the production meeting, when he was
recruiting RelA, he said, the reason I told you to
come here was because you have the talent, but we
can develop you to be ready for the NFL. We're
not there yet, but you're going to go through some
struggles early on as we developed this program and make
it into something that's going to become a powerhouse, and
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we're going to put you into difficult situations but we're
also going to prepare you in a pro style offense.
And that's what resonated with him, and that's why I
went there. But obviously after last season, the struggles that
they had as a team, he's moving on to the
next best, best thing.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, I think the culture of that too, And to me,
it's not even the Royola issue, it's he is an
outlier in the world of college athletics, meaning he has
a ton of untapped potential. What's going to happen is
and again, I grew up in a freaking trailer park,
so I would be going where the money was. However,
you're going to have these guys that are transferring one, two, three,
four times. They're not going to have their degree. They
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are not going to have a home base to go
back to, meaning they're not going to have the relations
in order to have a career outside of athletics afterward,
or even an alma mater to go back to that
really appreciates them. You played one year, you're not going
to stand on the sidelines and be celebrated unless you
won a national championship. So I think the culture of
all the moving around as dominant as it is right Now,
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it's good for a few if they're continuing to look
for a bigger opportunity, but I think it's poisonous to
most because what's going to happen long term is they're
not going to have a home, they're not going to
have a degree, and they're not going to have a
career in professional sports because they really were never going
to anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Well, I think also the other caveat to that is
once he does get drafted to the NFL logan as
you well know, guess what, there's no transferring.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, you're now going to have a contract for four years.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
So if you go through some adversity early in your career,
which we all do, you're going to have to look
yourself in the mirror and say how do I get better?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And there's no running from that. You're on the team
that you're on.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, And I will follow with this. I know NFL
scouts the first question, you know, when I call college game,
the first thing I look at is like, okay, this
guy the quarterback via this school. Like everyone's transferred. So
NFL scouts the first question is, well why do you transfer?
You gotta be able to answer that. If you said
I transferred from Alabama because I wasn't playing there, then
you're probably not gonna be playing at the next spot,
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or you might not be good enough to play in
the NFL if you're not playing at the first spot.
So Dylan Royola might say, you know, I'm transfer the
better opportunity. I wanted a better quarterback coach, I want
to get a pro style offense. Whatever. He might have
his reasons, but he's gonna have to answer those questions
of why. If you're just running from adversity, that ain't
gonna always steer clear. Now, if you're like a great
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player at Delaware and you want to go to Alabama
cause you're could to get better competition to get ready
for the pros, that's understandable. They're gonna be like, okay,
we got understand that. But if you're like transferring three
times because you're not playing and guess what, you're probably
not gonna be playing in the NFL. You're not good
enough to play in college at one of your schools.
So I think answering the why is a big reason,
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and that's obviously different, you know from case to case.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Spaces, Well, look, we really appreciate the time and Hey,
what are you doing with your animals foundation that I
mentioned earlier? Like that's a passion for you?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Why so you know, I've always grew up with animals,
but really is my wife. You know, we were dating
and she moved, you know, as my girlfriend moved him
in New England, and she was a college softball player.
She was trying to figure out what life was like
post sports, and she started volunteering on animal shelter, working
cleaning kennels, like dirty jobs, like making very little money,
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but did it for the passion. And I started getting
around it and I only see any animals that needed
help with seeing the people, I was like, man, it'd
be really cool to bring a platform this. So I
always try to combine my sports platform to animals. And
you know, we all we all know our dog lovers
and cat lovers usually have a good heart and have empathy,
so they're like my type of people. I usually like
people have pets. I don't know that's how times out
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works out to be. So I've always tried to use
my platform to shine lights to adoptable pets and help
with those type of thing. So it just aligned really well.
But my wife Ashley worked it and lived it. I
love animals. I'm not saying I'm gonna get a job
at of kennel. Many times my wife did so I
definitely support her, support everybody in that field. And you know,
always since I had a platform, I try to shine
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light on on the people and the pets.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Did you know that he adopted a hyena too?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Did you know that you have a pig? Does he
know you have a pig.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
I've got a pig, dude, So you're I'm an animal
lover too, even though I don't. I hardly probably mess
with the pig chickens everything.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
I bet you do.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I know you got a ranch. I don't. I used
to drive a sprinter van. He had so many kids.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, Ari a r F V was real r r
F dot org. Hey Logan, great to talk to you.
Super happy for your success. It's been really cool to
watch you like start to blow up in this world.
So congratulations and hopefully I'll talk to you soon and
matter talk to you.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So yeah, congrats, buddy, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Keep crushing it.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
All right, that's it, Thank you guys, Thanks to Logan Ryan,
Thanks to my friend Matt Castle. Thank you You're my
friend too, great job, your beard looks great.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, I've been I mean growing this thing. I was
getting scruffy.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
It looks not scruffy though. It looks like an elevated
you like.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You have the boots on today? Oh I did you
know these boots? Is funny story. My wife bought these
boots from my son for Christmas. My twelve year old,
by the way, same size. He didn't fit into the thirteens.
We had to get him a thirteen and a half,
so she still hadn't sent these back yet.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I just tried them on today. Fit perfectly.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
You wear the hand me downs of your way younger son.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, he's twelve, he's wearing a thirteen and a half.
I've got a thirteen on. But I felt pretty good.
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
What Hey, dude, I haven't heard it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Hey dudes are super comfort super comfortable? Yeah, no free ads,
but they're super cumpory.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Oh no, no free ads. But I mean, I didn't
even know what this brand was. I was like, are
people going to make fun of me when I were
no super gruffy? I have the same brand on, don't Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Huh, Yeah, you have the LODs a ton. Hey, dudes,
didn't know they did a collab. Really good present.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
All right, thank you guys. We will see you guys
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, just say, we got lots to save.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
What a becker here? And we hope you say because we.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Got lots, Yeah, we got lots.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Just say.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Here's everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We're going to talk with Logan Ryan In a second
Logan played to the Patriots, the Titans, Giants, the Bucks,
and the Niners before he ended. He's got two Super
Bowl rings which we got to wear them.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We went to his house. Yeah, it was really nice.
I put one on my toe. Have you met him?
He was on my team and with the Titan I'm playing.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh okay, Yeah, you guys did not cross over with
the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
No, we didn't cross over. He came in after me.
I think he was drafted in thirteen. I want to say,
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Do you guys, are you around each other at all?
If you're on the offense and he's a defensive player.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Not as much as you, because offense kind of does
their own thing. Defense does their own thing. But when
you come into a locker room, you've got team meetings,
all that stuff, and you're eating, we're pretty much around
each other, and so I got to know Logan and
he is an exceptional person.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Great dude.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And then when you see him as a player, I
mean he was the true definition of professionalism. He'd come in,
he'd be prepared, he'd work hard in practice. He had
a great motivational voice for that defense. You saw him
always communicating, doing all those things. So I just always
had the utmost of respect for him and loved him
as a guy.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Both of you guys have baller kid kids, athlete kids.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean, they better be or they're not. They're getting
water in their cereal. Don't come home with a loss.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Is that a thing? Water in cereal as a punishment? No,
I've never heard that. If you just came up with that,
that's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I did hear somebody say that one time, and I
was like, that's actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, he should have taken credit for it. I came
up with it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Drafted in the third round, went to Ruggers, won two Super
Bowls all NFL rookies, and interceptions with five and twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah. Super great guy.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And if you go onto YouTube you can look for
an episode we did at his house. I got to
know loadan a little bit because he was back here
doing some stuff and he came into the show and
we talk about all this.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But we went to his house and uh, he's such
an athlete.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh, he's a freaking We've played pickleball though, and I
would go back and replay him because we played pickleball.
It was super windy on his court.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh are you making excuses? Did he beat you?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I wasn't in my pickleball game yet. I hadn't really focused.
He has a court. I hadn't really started to be
the player that I am now, right, so you've evolved.
It would be like playing defense against you in high
school and claiming that you were way better than Matt Castle.
You didn't get to who you were. That's fair.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So he played high school me. Now I'm Matt Castle.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So you would go out there? You think if you
went back, I think I would take head to head, Yeah,
and take him down. Yeah, I feel pretty. I mean
I kind of want to watch that. I mean we
set this up.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, I'm still but I'll be back soon. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
We love him, and.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Let's go over to him house. It's like I've watched
him turn into a butterfly. He was a he's a
little caterpillar when I met him in the in the
world of broadcasts, and he said, I'm going to be
somebody someday, and I've watched him be somebody. He's now
an alms for CBS and he's also the co founder
of Ryan Animal Rescue Foundation, which supports shelters and rescues
through funding, education, and adoption focused initiatives. If you want
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more information about that, r a r F dot org
here he is Logan, Ryan Logan.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What's up, buddy? What's up? Guys?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You know, the first time we met, it was you going,
I think I'm retired and I think I'm going to
try to do broadcast, and.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now you're killing it. Look at look at this. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I don't know about killing and I'm trying, but I
would say, you put me on, Bobby. I hopped on
your show a few years ago, and you told me,
you know, I would be okay at this one day,
and you're you're you know, you were taking pj's to
your comedy shows and whatnot one day. That's what I
want to be when I grow up. I want to
be Bobby Bones.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So how did you guys meet? You guys did a
show together.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
He was in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
He came.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
He just came by the show. We hung out, but
then we stayed in touch and he's done the show
and I went to his house and worked out with them.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
He wants to like guys worked out.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Man. He came to the barn. People know about the
Ryan family ranch we have here in Tampa, and Bobby
came to the barn. He came to the weight room.
We did some one on one routes out there that
you can imagine how that went down. I think I
was just quarterbacking though.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah you're quarterback and given us tips.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I want to say this before we talk about ball,
is that is there a single seven year old that
can touch your kid on the playing soccer. I watched
his whole highlight tape last night. Watch the whole thing.
Is he heads and shoulders above everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
We don't know, right, I don't know all the seven
year old's ranked. I think there's people that like literally
ranked seven year old teams. That's that's pretty sad. But
we did take him out to LA because we heard
that's where the best seven year olds are and my
son doesn't really play his age, usually plays up with eight,
nine and ten year olds. But he had a chance
to go with the top seven year olds they say
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in LA and he was head and shoulders better than them.
So he did his thing. I'm happy for him. He
works really hard and a lot of people think he's
just good because he's my son. I'm not that good
at soccer two different sports, and he works really hard
at it and he has big dreams to play for
Team USA one day. So Matt as you know, I
know you got a bunch of those kiddos. Yeah, yeah,
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none of them are ranked right now either.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm not taking my kids out of state to go
get ranked though, I promise you that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But yeah, we got a bunch of it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And we just put up to see what the competition
was like. He went did his thing, So it's cool,
and you know he's you learn a lot from being
an athlete, and he knows, he knows, he's learning what
that's like. And if you want your dreams, I'm gonna
support it, but I'm gonna show you what it takes
to be those things, which he knows a lot of
hard work.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You know now that you're in media and come over
to the dark side a little bit. But what's been
the most rewarding part of being able to explain the
game through your eyes now that you're in the media.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I mean, I think that's it right there, right I
just try to be a bridge, I guess, from the
players to maybe some guys in media that haven't been
around the game in a long time. I think the
game has changed, Matt, as you know, a lot of
offense has changed, a lot of defense I've changed, and
being recently retired, like from two seasons ago, I'm able
to kind of tell that story and you know, fortunate
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to be able to call Myles Garrett, yeah, you know,
Sack there the other day and explain what that's like.
I mean, I don't know what that's like as a player,
but the best I could, I think was a really
cool moment in my media career to be able to
be on that call for a historic call like that.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Let's talk about that specifically, since you brought that up.
Zach Taylor after the game, a little upset that they
stopped the game, although I didn't feel like it was
like a Lebron type stop where they stop and throw confetti.
It was quick, and then they celebrate on the sideline.
Did you feel like that stoppage because it was a
very pivo part of the game, did you feel like
that was too much? Then?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I don't know what Zacha was told by the refs.
We were told from CBS, from the production that if
Miles were to get the sack early in the game
or in the first half, they would they would stop
the game, but if the game was competitive or down
the stretch, they wouldn't. That's what we were told because
we have to know how much time to talk about it,
replay it. That was in the fourth quarter of a
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one score game, and you know, I don't know if
the Bengals were expecting the Browns have to call time out,
use a timeout to have it. But when it happened,
the Bengals were in tempo and the Browns all rushed
the field, so they all all the I mean, there's
not twelve men on the field, there's thirty seven men
in the field, right, and the Bengals are lined up like, hey,
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like we're in tempo, We're trying to keep the tempo going.
So they felt like it really messed up their flow.
But that's such a historical, historical play and the game
had no meaning other than draft order and whatnot. So
I think it's a very unique, unique situation. But I
see both sides. I see the Bengal side of it
because they weren't told that that was going to happen.
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And I see the refs the NFL say hey, man,
like we got to honor this, So there was it
was not clearly explained. We were told something differently on
TV that didn't play out.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, but I agree with you. It wasn't for a
division title.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
This is a record that's been standing for what twenty years,
and Miles Garrett just did something that was extraordinary. I
think that the game needed to be stopped at that
point just to recognize the moment.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
True, I definitely feel like that moment, you know, needed
to happen. But on Zactaeil's defense, he don't know if
he's getting fired. Maybe he does or doesn't. You don't
know if these last games matter in terms of your
job security and whatnot, and you want to win the
game as well. I think the Browns should have been
used to time out. Okay, stop the game. A call
time out for the Browns to give Mile Garrett his moment,
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So I feel like that's what it is called time
out for that moment. But regardless, the game should have
been stopped. And I'm happy for Miles. He's really deserving.
When you get to know the guy, he's obviously a
freak of nature, but he works really hard at it
and he's a historian of the game. He's a really good,
good person, So I think he's deserving.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You played for Vrabel as he was coaching in a
playoff game. I believe what what does he say to
you guys, and what does he say to his team
in New England?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Can you give me a little background in that?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well? I think Rabel like the playoffs aren't out of reach.
When Mike Raile was your coach, he's making that a
true possibility. Similar in New England, Matt, where you know
the season going the start traft for Thanksgiving, we got
to still getting better and you know, New England won
a lot of games this year, probably more than a
maybe some of these players thought, but Mike, you know,
always says like I'm going to coach the wins as
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hard as I coach the loss, so it doesn't catch
up to us. And I think that's why the Patriots
haven't been caught up on because although they're succeeding and
people aren't expecting it, they're expecting it. And they're also
getting coach hard after their wins, which prepare you for this.
So I think he takes a game by game and
he makes you believe, like, Yo, we win the next game.
Oh man, we're in a divisional round. Oh we're a
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game away from the super Bowl. Who would have thought
Mike Rabel Troy believes he can coach to win every
single game. And he's literally good enough to give his
team a chance to win every single game just by
coaching alone, because he's as good as any coach.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I played.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Talk a little bit about that mentality because a lot
of people don't understand how they hold you accountable. And
like the New England system that we grew up in
and now Mike Vrabel and what that exactly means, because
I feel like it almost was harder during wins versus losses.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, so if you lost a game in New England,
it's almost like it caught up to us. Right, these
habits of not closing out games, right, say we're up
by three touchdowns, you're on defense and the coaches say, hey,
we're up three touchdowns, but don't let your guard down.
Close the game out and you let the team the
other team score a meaningless touchdown and you win by
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fourteen instead of twenty one. Well, then when you're in
a tight game and they score that meaningful touchdown, it's like,
we've told you, guys for three weeks. And that's how
Mike Rabel is like, you never know when that mistake
is gonna cost us. You fumble when you're up, you're like,
oh whatever, who cares. But then you fumble in the
final two minutes of a game, right, So he's he's
coaching in the wins equally as hard. So when you lose,
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it's almost like, see, this is a habit that we
let go, and a lot of other teams are Some
teams just coach the result. Oh we won, we're not
going to watch the tape. Oh we won, the fumble
doesn't matter. He's kind of coaching the habits the same,
if not harder, in the wins, so that when you're
in the tight game, when you're in the playoffs, you're
not making these careless mistakes that end up costing you
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your season. So I just think he coaches ahead of it.
He doesn't coach a result. He coaches the habits. And
that's something you got to get used to as a
player because you're always judge on your results. You won
the game, everybody's great, you lost the game, You're the
worst player in the world. I think rabel Stay is
much more level headed than that, and that's what you
need in the playoffs because there's that much pressure in
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those moments of you know, your season.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Ending, does it amplify how much does it amplify as
you're going into week one of the playoffs from regular
season to you know, starting the tournament.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
It's March madness. It's a truly whole new season. Like
it literally does not matter what you did. Obviously, seeding matters,
but you know in the season you're gonna pull from
the players you know that made plays and you can trust,
Like who can I trust to win the game? I
think you got to understand that both coaching staffs are
normally good. You know, that coach on the other side
had a really good year two that quarterback on the
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other side had some comeback wins as well, So that
team's used to winning as well, you're not. Sometimes in
the NFL you play teams that once they start doing bad,
they can't bounce back, where just because you're up against
the Chiefs doesn't mean they're not going to come back, right,
So everything's amplified because the person on the other side
of the ball is equally as good as you, And
I think it's going to come down to little things
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and those practice habits and all that stuff pays off.
But it's completely a whole new season, Bobby, I think
with the NFL being as wide open as it is
this year, not having the big dog quarterbacks in the race,
not having Mahomes and Burrow and Lamar Jackson's completely wide
open and you're gonna have the most upsets or I
would say lower seeds winning games in my opinion, that
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we've had in the playoffs in a long time.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, look at this matchup that's coming up between the
Chargers and the Patriots. When you look at the Chargers
and Herbert, the explosive nature of it, what does the
Pats defense need to do. Is it contain him in
the pocket. Is it to limit explosives pressure? Like, what's
your key for the defensive unit for the Patriots to
slow down this Chargers offense.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I'm comfortable with this matchup. I really am for the Patriots.
I think the Patriots pull this off. They got to
limit the explosive plays. I look at the Chargers. Herbert's
been beat up. They obviously rested him, so you can
think he's gonna feel a little fresher. But their offensive
line has been decimated. They don't have their tackles and
that's been a huge part. So the Patriots don't have
elite edge rushers, but they have a really good team
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pass rush, and I think against a banged up OH line,
that's gonna work really well. I look at their receivers.
They have Keenan Allen and Ladd McConkie, elite route runners,
but possession guys. And I look at the Patriots. They
have Carlton Davis and Christian Gonzalez. These guys stay square,
they put hands. They're not gonna create a lot of
separation against those corners. So I really like the Patriots
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dbs matching up in this. I really like the d line,
so I feel as if defensively they match up really
well against the Chargers. Charge are gonna try to run
the ball, but as long as they don't let up
the big plays, I don't see how the Chargers put
up enough points on the other side of the ball.
Drake May so good against man end zone defense. The
Chargers live in zone defense. He's been so good all
year Drake May that is so I think he'll be
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comfortable back there picking apart the zone defense. If the
Chargers run, and as long as they don't like turn
the ball over give up crazy flukey explosive plays. I
think the Patriots methodically run away from the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
The Bills and Jags are super interesting to me because
it's Josh Allen. Can he finally do it? Versus the Jags.
Nobody really expected them to be here, and they've developed
us against the world mentality. Did you ever play on
a team that was a we're not getting respect, us
against the world mentality.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That's literally the Tennessee Titans. I mean that's I left
the Patriots to the Titans in free agency and we
got Mike Rabel and Bobby you know, we end up
being like a sixth seed going on the run. We
beat We beat Tom Brady in his last game, which
is hard to do. We beat you know the fourteen
and two Baltimore Ravens that had MVP Lamar Jackson, and
we were literally called the hyenas. Like Tom Brady put
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out a video before our first game, before the wildcard game,
al he was the king of the jungle and it
was like a lion and Rabel took the video put
it in our meeting and was like, well, if he's
a lion, we're a pack of hyenas. So he had
like a bloody hyena picture of of a hyena's hunting
a pack and they're like the disrespect. You know, they
live in the shadow realm in Lion King. I don't
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know if you saw, they're not allowed to touch the light.
So we literally rode the whole hyena wave and where
you know a famous old tall tale a half away
from beating Patrick Mahomes and going to the super Bowl
as a six seed. So I literally felt that exact
thing that the Jags are feeling when I was on
a you know, Tennessee Titan in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know, the more I watched Jacksonville too offensively, I
think Trevor Lawrence is playing the best football of his career.
He's got what thirty nine touchdowns, threw for over four
thousand yards. He's on a roll, but also defensively, they're
number one rush defense in the league, thirty one takeaways.
Do you feel like Jacksonville could absolutely run away with
this game or do you think this is going to
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be a four quarter game all the way down to
the wire.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I think the first quarter is going to tell the story.
And the first game I called NFL game of my
career this year was Jacksonville at Sincy when Joe Barrow
got hurt and I sat down with the production meetings
behind the scenes, Liam Cohen's legit like Jacksonville found their
coach for a long time. He had so much you
talk about accountability, I mean he was on Trevor Lawrence
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early in that game on the sideline, yelling at Trevor
Lawrence talk about how much untapped potential there was there.
He's you know, he comes from that RAMS system, Matt
where the running game is really complex and a lot
of checks in the line of scrimmage. He wanted to
get rid of Trevor Lawrence's wristband and make Trevor Lawrence
learn to plays and the and the checks. So I
felt like accountability was similar to Vabel on the defensive side.
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Anthony Campanelli their DC coached me at Rutgers. Crazy Italian dude,
So Jersey Italians a get so he's fiery. They got
turnovers a lot this year. They have a really good
defensive team and they're gonna run the ball. They can
run the ball and the Bills. And if they can
run away from the Bills and run the ball and
keep Josh Allen on the bench, that's how they get
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it done. I do think that the Bills are sleeping giant.
I don't think the Bills. I don't think it's the
best Bills seem Josh had, but he is the big
dog in the playoffs. And if Josh Allen doesn't get
it done this year, he's not going to have years
about Mahomes in it. He's not gonna have many years
about Burrow or Lamar Jackson. And this is the easiest
path for him. So I don't think Josh Allen's MVP
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this year. But I think he's the best player in
football in terms of size, speed, arm, talent, running ability,
create creatability. I think he's the best player in football.
And I think that if the game is close. Josh
Allen's going to have too many possessions down the stretch
to be Josh Allen. So I think that the Bills
do get it done. But if Jacksonville gets up early
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and is able to keep the ball away from with
that running game and at TN and all that, then
maybe don't give Josh Allen the chance.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
We talked about the playoffs being amplified for everybody, but
also when it comes to a rivalry game in the
playoffs Packers and Bears, that's a rivalry game. They've played
two of the last three weeks. Anyway, whenever you're playing
a rival in the playoffs again, does it elevate even
higher or is the rivalry kind of off because it's
all playoffs.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
It elevates higher. I mean, you don't like your division
teams as much. You see them so much. Both teams
are very in tune with what each other's calling and whatnot,
So strategy goes. Are they gonna do what they did
last time? Are they gonna try something different? You probably
can overthink that. You know, I know both those games
were thrillers, like one, you know, the Bears could have
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won and the Packers get to pick the end the game.
The other one, the Packers could have won an onside
kick and the Bears win the game. So it's truly
a coin flip, I do think, and there's no Michael
Parsons in this one, but the Bears have been very
turnover based. A lot of turnovers have led to their wins.
When not able to get the turnovers, obviously they don't
win as much. And I just I'm gonna lean on
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experience again and go with Jordan Love and Lafloor here.
And this might be an upset. This is an underseed.
I told you lower seeds are gonna win. I have
the Bills winning as a lower seed. I have the
Packers winning, but it's gonna come down to one of
those final plays. And I just think Lafloor and Jordan
Love have more time together. With that, I think the
future is bright. I think Chicago's had a great year.
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I think they got a great head coach with Ben Johnson.
But I just think that Jeff Hathley's gonna be a
head coach next year, and I think he's gonna do
a defensive masterpiece here, and it's gonna be a tight
one down to stretch. But I'm gonna think Josh Jacobs
might be the best player in the game, and I
think he's gonna have a big game against the Bears.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Forty nine ers at the Eagles. I mean, I'm excited
for this game. But what's your thoughts on this one?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, you know I say this sometimes on CBS and
whatnot on my podcast that you know, football is not
as a twelve v twelve sport, not eleven be eleven.
It's your eleven plus you're a play caller, and it's
Robert Salah and the defense who's banged up versus the
Eagles eleven. But their play caller is not that great
offensively obviously this year they've had some woes. And then
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obviously Vic Fangio versus Yle Shanahan is like Hall of
Fame play calling on both sides there. So look, if
the Niners won last week, then they're the one seed
and people might have called them Super Bowl favorite. Then
they lose the game and now they got to go
to the Philly on the road as an underdog. It's
crazy how the NFL works. Christian McCaffrey's Special OFFENSEI Player
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of the Year Saquan I played with as well, really special.
I just feel like a little insider here. I was
at forty nine er in my last season. The forty
nine ers feel comfortable playing against Jalen Hurts. They truly
have a game plan rush that I'm not gonna tip
too much, but you'll see where they feel comfortable playing
against Jalen Hurts. They've always felt comfortable playing the Eagles.
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They felt as if if Perry doesn't get hurt. They
went at MBC championship a couple of years ago, and
obviously that's a big if, and who knows. So I'm
gonna go with the Niners and the coaching I truly do.
I think that's a big upset. But this is true.
Fifty to fifty, I could see why the Eagles win it.
They're healthier. I don't think Sirianni resting his starters were smart.
I think that's gonna bite them. I think the inconsistently
on play calling all year from the Eagles. I think
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they lose this game. It's not good for Siriani. So
I think the decision to not play your guys when
you have something to gain has something where the Niners
had a lot to play for and loss. I think
the Niners can rally here and hopefully hold on to
Fred Wanner gets back. But I've been Niners pulling off
a close one and this is truly a coin flip.
I'm gonna go with the Niners.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
MVP Stafford, Drake May, Drake.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
May both great years. I can't believe Matt Stafford's never
had MVP vote or won MVP before. That's kind of surreal.
But I look at you know, Matt Stafford's throwing to
Devonte Haddam to Puka Nakula, which is as good as
it gets a lot of red zone touchdowns at PAD,
those stats can't knock. It's what Peyton Manning used to do.
But I'm gonna go with Drake May to see that
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Drake May has been as efficient as he has every
single game. No real bad games from Drake May. All
year fourteen wins with Mike Rabel fourteen wins and Matt
you can maybe talk to first year in a new system. Yeah,
how hard it is for a quarterback Stafford's been with
McVeigh for a few years. When you're throwing a Steph
Diggs and matc Collins as opposed to Pukinnakula, Devontey Adams,
No shade on anybody. I'm gonna go with Drake made
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the consistency. How hard that is to do with this
roster the Patriots have. I think he's been more valuable
of a player.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Do you in season? How early do you get told
what game you're going to?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It's typically in season, maybe maybe three weeks out. You know,
obviously they're gonna send Romo and the A crew to
the top game. They know about three weeks out when
it gets toured, like week eighteen, and some games had
no meetings, some games had tons of meeting Miles Garrett's
game had a little bit of meaning because of that
sack record. That was like six days out. Like I
knew on Monday night Tuesday that my game was Cleveland,
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and I was excited about that. Joe Burrow's angle, Cleveland's angle,
Miles Garrett, the future Shadore. Obviously it could have been
Kansas City Raiders, which don't have a lot, but that's
Travis Kelsey's last game. I came in Potentially, I came
in with Travis Kelce played him in college for four
so it's like, wow, how crazy is that I came
in with this guy in the draft, knew them and
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covered him in college. And now I'm potentially calling Travis
Kelsey's last game of his Hall of Fame career. So
I try to find meeting and everything I'm calling. But
I think I got that assignment like six days before
the game.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Is your prep work for these games more film study
and interviews and stuff like that, more so than what
you ever went through when you played.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah, you know, if I don't know everyone, there's no like,
here's how you become an analyst, Here's how you prepare
for a game. I think everybody's different, Matt, But I
just kept my NFL prep work. So you know, I
watched the last three games of both teams, you know,
on Monday, and then you know, Tuesday, I start breaking
out side the ball. The problem is when I'm playing,
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I just watch the other team's offense. Now that I'm
calling the game, I have to watch both teams offenses
and both team's defenses. So it's literally like double or
triple the amount of film because I'm just too young
and novice to not put in the work yet. Like
I haven't figured out how to like go wing it yet.
You know, maybe a show just off of the muscle.
I'm not comfortable yet to do that. So it is about,
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you know, fifteen to twenty hours of watching film. The
good thing with me is I either played for or
against everybody, covered everybody still like Oh, I played against
Miles Garrett, I know how good Denzel Will. I played
against Joe Burrow, I covered Jamar Chase. So I have
a lot in my memory bank of what that's like
and I try to bring that on air. But it's
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definitely double the amount of prep I did as a player.
Maybe I'll get more efficient when my contract goes up
money wise and guaranteed, and I'm a little more comfortable,
But right now I'm putting the those rookie hours, that
rookie season hours.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm gonna give you one more question, and let's go
to college for a second. When you watch in the
past couple of days, specifically, it's the portal is open,
and yeah, the portal is janned. Everybody jumps in. Some
guys don't jump in until like today because they know
how much money is now being offered to them. What
do you think about the portal and nil as a whole.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
That's a great question, you know, but obviously it's it's
good and bad, and you know, I think I don't
know how Matt feels, but we all support players getting
paid like we wish we had it. And people asked me,
would you have left Rutgers, you know, if the portals,
I would have transferred three times, you know, because the
money is so big, and that's stuff you can't just
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when you come from not a lot of money. You
can't just say a million dollars isn't worth it or
two million isn't worth it. If you're an All American
player at a smaller school and I look at you know,
the top quarterbacks in college football, they all transferred last year,
and Mendoza made themself some money by transferring, So you
can't argue you the transfer. Do they have any control
of it? No, absolutely not. So obviously they need more control,
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But I do. I do like the fact that talented
players are getting compensated for what they're what they're bringing.
I guarantee you the schools are still making good money
and they're not taking too much of the pie. It's
just a wild wild West. I'm sure there's agents taking advantage.
I'm sure there's a lot of people still taking advantage
of these athletes that I don't know enough about, but
I am a fan of it. I don't like the
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timing and all that stuff. I don't think anybody does.
But I'm okay with players getting paid. If if you
got that, you know, I know, if I was a
tennis player and I was fifteen, I know, if my
son can make money at thirteen playing soccer, you're gonna
make money at thirteen playing soccer. Like, I'm not gonna
be like, you don't need that, Like, no, if you're
gonna be if Nike's gonna pay you, then you're gonna
be a thirteen year old Nike soccer player. So I'm
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not against that part of it.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
The only issue I have with it right now is
now that they're they're putting out these social media eclips.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We just resigned so much resigning.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I was like, you already commit, committed to go to
school there, you played a whole season. What the hell
you talk about re signing. You're just going back to school.
You're just going back to class. Yeah, you're just not
going in the portal.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm back.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Can I ask you guys a question real quick? So
Dylan Rayola, right, he's obviously transferring. And I saw they
said Dylan Royola has loyalty problems, and this guy has
transferred every year since eighth grade.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes, he went to four different.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
High schools and now he committed to like Georgia, then
he went to Nebraska. Now he's leaving Nebraska. Now I
think in a year or two, Dylan Roola probably what
the top quarterback drafted, he'd.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Be in the conversation potentially.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Right, So you're looking at thirty forty million dollars, So
do you have a loyalty issue if you got your
kid in position or he's in position to make forty
million dollars when it's all said and done, transferring every
year since eighth grade or or what what is your
thoughts on it of how del Royal is family or
him has been moving around so much in his livelihood.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You can go first, Yeah, I think it's a unique situation.
I don't think that's for every player. Because I cover
college football and you go around, you see a lot
of these guys have been to different high schools just
from a competitive standpoint, but not in different states. We're
talking about different states. He was in Arizona, he was
in Texas. He was in Georgia and then ended up
going to Nebraska, and Nebraska made sense because his uncle
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was the O line coach. His father went there was
a legendary player. He's up there on the wall. And
then I can see even when we talked to him
at the media days and we asked these obscure questions
like if you could go anywhere, where to go? And he,
without a hesitation, went Ohio State and I was like, wow,
I mean he immediately said it like that right, And
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so what you start to understand is he's got the
mentality where he wants to go beyond a team that's
going to be able to compete and put him in
a position to be successful.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And whereas Matt Ruhle told us.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
When we were in the production meeting, when he was
recruiting RelA, he said, the reason I told you to
come here was because you have the talent, but we
can develop you to be ready for the NFL. We're
not there yet, but you're going to go through some
struggles early on as we developed this program and make
it into something that's going to become a powerhouse, and
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we're going to put you into difficult situations but we're
also going to prepare you in a pro style offense.
And that's what resonated with him, and that's why I
went there. But obviously after last season, the struggles that
they had as a team, he's moving on to the
next best, best thing.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, I think the culture of that too, And to me,
it's not even the Royola issue, it's he is an
outlier in the world of college athletics, meaning he has
a ton of untapped potential. What's going to happen is
and again, I grew up in a freaking trailer park,
so I would be going where the money was. However,
you're going to have these guys that are transferring one, two, three,
four times. They're not going to have their degree. They
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are not going to have a home base to go
back to, meaning they're not going to have the relations
in order to have a career outside of athletics afterward,
or even an alma mater to go back to that
really appreciates them. You played one year, you're not going
to stand on the sidelines and be celebrated unless you
won a national championship. So I think the culture of
all the moving around as dominant as it is right Now,
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it's good for a few if they're continuing to look
for a bigger opportunity, but I think it's poisonous to
most because what's going to happen long term is they're
not going to have a home, they're not going to
have a degree, and they're not going to have a
career in professional sports because they really were never going
to anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Well, I think also the other caveat to that is
once he does get drafted to the NFL logan as
you well know, guess what, there's no transferring.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, you're now going to have a contract for four years.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
So if you go through some adversity early in your career,
which we all do, you're going to have to look
yourself in the mirror and say how do I get better?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And there's no running from that. You're on the team
that you're on.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, And I will follow with this. I know NFL
scouts the first question, you know, when I call college game,
the first thing I look at is like, okay, this
guy the quarterback via this school. Like everyone's transferred. So
NFL scouts the first question is, well why do you transfer?
You gotta be able to answer that. If you said
I transferred from Alabama because I wasn't playing there, then
you're probably not gonna be playing at the next spot,
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or you might not be good enough to play in
the NFL if you're not playing at the first spot.
So Dylan Royola might say, you know, I'm transfer the
better opportunity. I wanted a better quarterback coach, I want
to get a pro style offense. Whatever. He might have
his reasons, but he's gonna have to answer those questions
of why. If you're just running from adversity, that ain't
gonna always steer clear. Now, if you're like a great
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player at Delaware and you want to go to Alabama
cause you're could to get better competition to get ready
for the pros, that's understandable. They're gonna be like, okay,
we got understand that. But if you're like transferring three
times because you're not playing and guess what, you're probably
not gonna be playing in the NFL. You're not good
enough to play in college at one of your schools.
So I think answering the why is a big reason,
(33:06):
and that's obviously different, you know from case to case.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Spaces, Well, look, we really appreciate the time and Hey,
what are you doing with your animals foundation that I
mentioned earlier? Like that's a passion for you?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Why so you know, I've always grew up with animals,
but really is my wife. You know, we were dating
and she moved, you know, as my girlfriend moved him
in New England, and she was a college softball player.
She was trying to figure out what life was like
post sports, and she started volunteering on animal shelter, working
cleaning kennels, like dirty jobs, like making very little money,
(33:37):
but did it for the passion. And I started getting
around it and I only see any animals that needed
help with seeing the people, I was like, man, it'd
be really cool to bring a platform this. So I
always try to combine my sports platform to animals. And
you know, we all we all know our dog lovers
and cat lovers usually have a good heart and have empathy,
so they're like my type of people. I usually like
people have pets. I don't know that's how times out
(33:58):
works out to be. So I've always tried to use
my platform to shine lights to adoptable pets and help
with those type of thing. So it just aligned really well.
But my wife Ashley worked it and lived it. I
love animals. I'm not saying I'm gonna get a job
at of kennel. Many times my wife did so I
definitely support her, support everybody in that field. And you know,
always since I had a platform, I try to shine
(34:20):
light on on the people and the pets.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Did you know that he adopted a hyena too?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Did you know that you have a pig? Does he
know you have a pig.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
I've got a pig, dude, So you're I'm an animal
lover too, even though I don't. I hardly probably mess
with the pig chickens everything.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
I bet you do.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I know you got a ranch. I don't. I used
to drive a sprinter van. He had so many kids.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, Ari a r F V was real r r
F dot org. Hey Logan, great to talk to you.
Super happy for your success. It's been really cool to
watch you like start to blow up in this world.
So congratulations and hopefully I'll talk to you soon and
matter talk to you.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So yeah, congrats, buddy, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Keep crushing it.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
All right, that's it, Thank you guys, Thanks to Logan Ryan,
Thanks to my friend Matt Castle. Thank you You're my
friend too, great job, your beard looks great.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, I've been I mean growing this thing. I was
getting scruffy.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
It looks not scruffy though. It looks like an elevated
you like.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You have the boots on today? Oh I did you
know these boots? Is funny story. My wife bought these
boots from my son for Christmas. My twelve year old,
by the way, same size. He didn't fit into the thirteens.
We had to get him a thirteen and a half,
so she still hadn't sent these back yet.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I just tried them on today. Fit perfectly.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
You wear the hand me downs of your way younger son.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, he's twelve, he's wearing a thirteen and a half.
I've got a thirteen on. But I felt pretty good.
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
What Hey, dude, I haven't heard it.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Hey dudes are super comfort super comfortable? Yeah, no free ads,
but they're super cumpory.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Oh no, no free ads. But I mean, I didn't
even know what this brand was. I was like, are
people going to make fun of me when I were
no super gruffy? I have the same brand on, don't Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Huh, Yeah, you have the LODs a ton. Hey, dudes,
didn't know they did a collab. Really good present.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
All right, thank you guys. We will see you guys
next week. By Everybody Lots to Say with Bobby Bones
and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and
iHeart Podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,
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