Starring Matthew Lawrence as Dave Heinrich in “H. E. Double Hockey Sticks”

You know and love him… Matthew Lawrence joins Will and Sabrina as they take a trip down memory lane with “H. E. Double Hockey Sticks”! 

Find out how Matt almost got Will in major trouble. Plus, who complained about Matt on set??

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey, everybody, thank you so much for joining us on
this par copper episode of Magical rewind and.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Boy, do we have a good one for you today. Actually,
I take that back. Every week we're like this one special,
this one's amazing. I hate this guy, so this is
not a special episode.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
This is a terrible episode. We were forced to have
him on. He's a terrible guy and a terrible actor.
Uh that's my intro.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm so excited to have one of my close friends on.
I've known him for god almost thirty years. He's a
great guy and a good friend. Please help me welcome
my partner in crime, not only on Boy Meets World,
but also on HG Double Hockey Sticks. Mister Matthew Lawrence?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Buddy, what's going on? Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Good man? I felt weird. I was like, should I
have texted him before we just jump on podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Hell no, let's just jump on.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
We just finished our deep dive rewatch of nineteen ninety
nine's little film H Double Hockey Sticks.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Can you believe that way?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I mean, that's what twenty five years ago we did
this movie?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Dude, so long ago, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I have so many great memories because for me, that
was like, that was the first time my family let
me out of my own.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Was it you were on set without your parents there?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Oh yeah, this is big. I was. I just turned eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Huge.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
And uh and uh well I had I had to
have a guardian with me regardless on set.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
And it was in We shot in Vancouver.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Uh so it was out of the country, which is
another big thing. They were like, well, it's your you
could go if you want. I'm like, I'm going alone.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'm going. I'm doing it.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
It was great, dude. We had a blast.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I got to learn how to play hockey.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well that's one thing I want to Okay, so let's
go back to the beginning.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
When did you because no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
This is good because I was trying to remember when
did you first hear about h double hockey sticks? Because
I think we talked about it on the set, didn't
we when they were like, hey, they're offering us this film.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, right, neither one of you guys auditioned, right, No, no.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
No, it was like, yeah, it was you were definitely
a part of it before me though. It was what
I think, Oh, really, I think I see I think
they I think they kind of did it together. Oh okay, okay,
because I was like I was like, if we'll doing it,
I'm doing it.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
If Well's not doing it, I'm not doing it. You know.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I think I said the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I was.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I did the same well because we had been they
partnered us up right away, which they brought you onto
Boy Meets World to play Rider's brother, but partnered us
up right away right away.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, within like two episodes.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, it was like, oh that's why. Yeah, it didn't matter.
It's like it doesn't matter. He's Rider's brother, who cares.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
But then I remember we were both kind of doing
the same thing where we were like, did.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Disney call you about to do it?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Disney, And it's like, well are you doing it?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
You doing okay, and so we were just like all right,
let's go do it.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
But had we even I don't think we even read
the script, did no.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
No, it was like Boys Trip Vancouver kind of yeah, kind.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Of, Yeah, it was you know, yeah, it was super fun.
I mean, dude, I I all. I I remember hearing
like the log line where you were playing like this
devil character, and I was like, Oh, that's that's gonna
be great.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
That's gonna be so much fun.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
And then knowing how well you know it went with
you know, the straight guy versus you going for the
on boy met squirrel, that was like, oh, this is
this is a no brainer, right, I didn't need.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
To read the script forget it.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Why were you a fan of hockey?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Did that have any aspect of it that you would
be able to Did you know how to skate?

Speaker 6 (03:56):
First?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
No, that was one of those.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
That you were like, I've skated once?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Was it that? Oh yeah, yeah, no problem, totally huge
into hockey and skating.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
No. I couldn't stand on the ice, that's about it.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
Okay, wow Yeah, threw like, oh.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
My gosh, weeks. Wasn't it three or four weeks?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Wow? Intense. I mean it was every day.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I would wake up, you know, like five or six
in the morning, and I would go over to this.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Like I think it was Pickwicks.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
It was it was Pickwicks because I had to go.
I trained for like two days. Yeah. I like you
had to like come out on the ice and that
was it.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, I trained for like two days and you were
there sweating every day for weeks.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Although you know what's a valuable lesson that I did
learn during that is the importance of failure when it
comes to trying to acomplish things that are way out
of your comfort zone. Are big things that you think
you're not gonna be able to accomplish. Failure is the
way you that's this, that's the ladder. Those are the
wrong ladder that you take to succeeding. And he taught

(05:12):
me that because I was having real, real trouble finding
an edge on the ice skate and uh, he was like,
you know what the problem is.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
You're afraid. You're afraid to fall.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I was like, you're not supposed to fall, that's
the whole one to stay up.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
He's like, no, you are afraid. You got to start falling.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
So you put these weighted like cones on my arms.
Every time I would go out and I would either
fall one way or the other. But I'll tell you what,
after a day or two of doing that, man, I
had an edge. I found I was able to start
to do crossover and that just started That opened up
the entire door to being able to ice skate and

(05:49):
then again amazing they put me on the ice with
the Canucks and like there was like this one player. Again,
I'm not a huge I respect the heck out of
the game. It is really tough to stay up and
do all the stuff they're doing.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
It it's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
But remember in their names is tough.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Those names are not easy. Last name either Smith, It's
not no, No.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
It was a very French Quebec type Canadian name. I
don't know, but he was great.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Everybody was like you got to be on the ice
with this guy, and I was like, yeah, it's super cool.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Things about acting that.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
No, but I remember.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So they Pickwick by the way, still open in Burbank,
it still goes stay there, yep, still there, And I
remember going. So they're like, hey, Matt has been training
for like three weeks a month to do this.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
You've got to go and just make sure you can
stand on skates. So I'm like, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I stood in my little corner and I was going.
But I remember the guy who was training you was
was an older, an older dude, and he said to
you in front of me, He's like, oh, if if
he'd get if he gives me like another six months
he could be like a legitimate actual hockey player, like
saying that about you.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, he was super cool.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, yeah, we bonded. You know, it was like that coach,
that mentor type of place. He was so cool with it,
and he just he.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Helped me so much because there's just a way that
like you wear the hockey gloves, and the way that
you carry the stick when you're just kind of not
if like there's a time out called the way the
guys kind of float around the ice, just.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
The kind of saunter that they use when they're walking
to the ice. Like he was such a great vat
that to pull from to as to learn to be
a hockey player.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
And then yeah, he was super cool man. I you know,
I've always loved that. I love, you know, the athletics stuff.
I really do, and I was always I always wanted
to be Maybe I always wanted to be in the NBA,
but I was just not tall enough. Excuse they're having
players that have been under five nine before. But I
don't know, I just kind of so I really athletics.

(08:01):
I love it so very competitive. So when I chance
to learn something like that, like I take it very
seriously and maybe that's what he was mentioned.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
He must have.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
But do you remember The other thing I remember is
that he wasn't just training you at the time. You
were training then with like his nephew or somebody who
was like seventeen and.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Was a prodigy.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
He's like, oh, this this kid was American app Yeah,
yeah he was. I actually stayed in touch with him,
funny enough, because I wanted to see where his career
was gonna go. Yeah cool, and he was kind of
like groundbreaking in many ways. And he he I think
he got injured.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Bro, No, oh yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
I don't think it actually, But talk about raising the stakes,
like now you're next to this.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Like it was just the two of them too. It
wasn't like you it's not.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Like hey, I could just take this at my own pace.
Hey I'm gonna do it in front of an almost
professional Yeah.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
It was.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
It was like, yeah, hey, it's you're one of it.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Here's a basketball you've never played before, and then you're
you're training with Michael Jordan.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
It was like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's wilds wild.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
So we get up to Vancouver. Yeah, do you remember
any of the kind of shooting. So there's certainly rewatching
the movie. I don't know if you've seen it recently, Yeah,
we were.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I mean i've seen it me either, you know, but
there are things that came back to me as I
was watching.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Oh that's right, Oh that's right, Like did you end
up dating the girl that played? Yeah? No, no, what
I can't remember what happened?

Speaker 6 (09:51):
I couldn't remember.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Okay, well you set the record straight here, please do please?
Do you know we were both you and on this set,
and I think you know, I was very strict about
as you know, even with being on the set, like
and I genuinely really did have a thing for Danielle.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
But when we were working, as you noticed.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Oh we didn't even we didn't know that you guys
were dating until like twenty years later.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
And the thing is what and the thing was is
that we didn't I was even like.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Look, while we're on set together, you know, until that ends.
I don't even want to get real serious, Like it
was just like literally friends, sure until that, you know,
we can hang out and watch movies, but let's not
go anywhere until after, because I don't One thing I
don't want to do is mess up the unit, the
family group smart and that's how.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
You do it, and you know you don't.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, terrible expression, and I'm not going to say it
related to that.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
You don't want to rock you don't want.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
To rock the boat.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
There you go, exactly what I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I was still in that mind frame where I was
like and I also had a thing for Danielle's still,
so I was like, I was trying to be kind
of political with like not just like stay away from me.
I was maybe I didn't know how to handle it
that way, but I definitely was like, this is not
this can't be anything, you.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Know, Okay, So I couldn't remember if you got.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, she was totally like, you know, let's be young
and fun, but I was like, no, no, I got
you know, I got work and I've got people I
care about.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Nice. I didn't have that philosophy because I remember, do you.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Remember, well the story I don't think I've ever told before,
And I'm not sure you're going to remember this. Do
you remember when you almost got me killed? What you
almost inadvertently got me dead?

Speaker 4 (11:39):
You don't remember this now?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Did? All? Right?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
So what the heck?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
So you and I were obviously hanging out the whole
time we were shooting the movie, and you know that
I are. I started seeing the girl who was the
hockey the the the figure skater, Kila, right, Okay, I
remember Kila and I ended.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Up dating for like two years.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
And Kila beforehand, before she was dating me, was dating
a hockey player who was a Canuck and he was huge.
She's no that guy that they're called inforcers because they're
put on the ice to fight.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I remember, now, you know it's funny.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I remember now.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
I think that's the way you described it to me.
Then they're put on the ice to the fight.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
So we're walking on the street in Vancouver one day,
you and I and we see the girl who plays
the the played your love interest in the movie walking
up with this huge man and we're like, She's.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Like, hey, what are you guys doing. We're like, oh,
we're hanging.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Out and You're like, joker be like he's in love.
He just fell in love. And they have been hanging
out all the time. And the guy she's standing with
was Kila's ex boyfriend, enforcer who's turning bright red.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
And I'm like, oh, I think that's the dude. Oh
I think that's the guy, and I.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Sitting Hey, he just stole her from some dingis and
it was just like, oh god, and so we walked
away and.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
It was so bad.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I saw the next day she came up to as
the actress came up to us and was like.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
What the hell were you thinking? We're both like what
what are you talking about? Like, that's her ex.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Boy was like, that's the guy who kills people.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You and I were like you're like you looked at me.
You're like I almost got you killed? Like, yes, you
almost got Oh god, it was so funny. Oh god,
it was so funny.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
But oh man, when you when we got to the
set and we were shooting, do you remember a lot
of the script meetings we were having at the time,
because I remember you and I didn't like how it ended.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Mm, yeah, that's right. I do remember this.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, we were they kept it.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Well.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, The thing I remember was, if I'm not wrong,
they were writing the script every day we were shooting.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Yeah, I really.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
So you guys had like dailies that were coming in
with like fully like seeing changes, like creates.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
But the thing that I remember the most that threw
me was not that they were just rewriting the scenes
we had during the day, but they were then rewriting
the rest of the script, and we weren't going home
and reading the entire script every night.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
We were reading what we had to shoot the next
day because they're changing it.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
So it's like we've got six pages to shoot tomorrow
or nine pages to shoot tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
We got to know these lines because they keep switching
it up.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
What we did not know, and maybe that's on us
because we should have been reading the script every night,
was that they'd also completely changed the third act, right, Yeah,
I remember that, So, yeah, you and I then read
we at one point we're going to shoot. We're like,
what the like originally Griffulkin wasn't going to get on
the ice because that didn't make any sense, and we're like,
what the hell is going on with this? And they

(15:05):
were like, you know, we changed this like two weeks ago,
and we're like, you're changing it every day.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
We can't, you know, we can't.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Keep up, and so we had kind of a we
went we went back and forth with the producers for
a little while, who were like, guys, this is this
is the ending now and we were like, all right,
I guess I get on the ice now in a
mask for some reason.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
But I remember, Yeah, don't you remember having a problem
with that?

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yes, for sure, I remember seeing all. You know how
every time they do a script change, it's a different color.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
Yes, I remembering your rainbow like.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Keep this straight.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Yeah, they're like going into like periwinkle purple.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Dude, They're not even a rainbow color anymore. It's like,
what the he this is?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Like, what the hell color is that? I still I
don't know where it is around me, but I still
have the final.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Draft script of all the colors and our notes and
kind of all the stuff going on.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
All right, but you know what, I feel bad.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
We should We should have gone back and really introduced
you to our audience.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Tell us a little bit about how you became an actor.
Let's do that.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
How I became an actor? Well, Uh, I have an
older brother who Reginald, Reginald Reginald Reginald Lawrence.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
He was he was, he was evacuated with it and
he uh always wanted to be inside the TV. And
then we were in the mall, the will Grove mall,
and it was my mom and Joe and I. This
was before our youngest Andy was born, and there was
like a contest, a photography contest, and I didn't want

(16:50):
to do it, but Joe really wanted to enter it,
so he entered it and he won, and the winnings
of that was a meeting with an agent in Manhattan.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
So I we always kind of were like, I.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Don't know, my mom didn't want to split us up
and couldn't didn't want to do daycare and all this
kind of stuff. My dad was working, so I just
went with Joe where he went. So I went to
the meeting as well, and uh, and then Joe started
booking commercials, and then as he got too old, they
started really putting pressure on me to fill those younger
commercial slots.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I kind of it was weird. I kind of had
like an aversion to it. At first, I was more.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Introverted than he was, the middle child, thinking, you know,
the second born at least and at that point, and
but then I did.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
A couple and uh, and.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Then I and then I did a sitcom with Joe
called give Me a Break, and that was a blood
I had a That's when I like caught the fever
for it.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I guess then, and you're here, how old are you
by this point?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
It was like four. Fuck, Wow, it's weird. Let me
tell you it's weird.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I mean thinking now, you know, as you get older,
maybe you have kids.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
And my older brothers got two kids.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Like it's wild to think that we were already almost
veterans by their age at you know, fifteen and eighteen.
You know, it's like, wow, it's crazing almost veterans. You
were full on veterans by fifteen and eighteen. I was
because because when I remember when we first met and
we were talking, you getting to know each other, You're like, oh,
when did you get into the business?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I was like, I got in young. I was ten,
and you're.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Like, eh, because I was like ten, Like I had
been working for seven and a half years by the
time I was ten years old.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, so you I mean you essentially grew up in it.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. And it's it's I got really
really blessed with.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
A family unit that is very like we're even though
we're Hollywood and we've been doing it for so long,
we're almost anti Hollywood, Like we don't we're on the
outside of the bubble. We've never been on the inside
of the bubble. You know. It was always something that
we did most of the most. We still grew up
most the time in a rural town in Pennsylvania, so

(19:02):
we had this like this bubble around us where I
didn't even kind of know, you know, I think it
was actually, you know what, it was a huge.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Surprise to me.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Let me put it that way when we did the
Macy's Day Parade the first season of the sitcom that
we had Brotherly Love, and we did the Macy's Day Parade,
and I, you know, we were in this bubble.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I had no.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Clue literally to how popular, and you know, and even
going through like Missus Dalifie and everything, like, I understood
the popularity of it, but I never really it never
hit me personally.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I was young.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It was twelve, but fifteen, I guess, we're we're doing
this Macy's Day parade. And the way they do it
is they line up all the have you guys ever
done the the They line you up basically, and then
they line up all the marching bands and all and
the floats go through them out into the.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Public and then you go down, you know, do this
thing and We're getting up there and it's cold, you know,
and like, all right, you know this is cooling, may
stay paride. You gotta do this little scene numbers. So
we're like practicing the scene number and then they wheel
or float out and all the marching bands start. It
just it It sounds like a rock concert.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
And I'm like what, and Joe hits me, he goes, no, no.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
That's that's for us, guys. And I was like what.

Speaker 8 (20:27):
And then we pull into the thing and the streets
and I was like, okay, so there was I kind
of realized that then there was this just profound thing
that had happened to us that was and it's always
been like that.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's just it's kind of been this thing that's happened.
It's never really so even though I grew up in it, man,
I guess the lost story.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Did you have kind of like when you say bubble,
Was it basically like you guys would go and work
and do your thing, and then when you guys would
go back to Pennsylvania and you guys would.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Just kind of keep moving along like normal kids.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Or were you guys homeschooling or were you still going
to regular school? Was it just so it was just
like regular life. And then when you'd work, you'd get go,
you'd go, but then you just come right back. And
it wasn't like you were then taking on like the
like living in New York or LA or whatever. You
just always just came back. So it was like you
had two lives. You worked and then you had a
regular life.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Literally was two lives. Yeah, and there were times.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I I wanted to go to.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Seventh grade, so I just took the whole year off.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
And then wow, then there were times I wanted to
go to And this was so great about everybody on
board Me's world.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Man, how cool.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
The production team they understood the importance of education and
what we were trying to do, so they rearranged the
entire schedules for us and allowed us to go.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Like I was able to go to USC, Rider was
able to do his thing. We were able to do that.
That was at that point.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
We were actually kind of like that was like the
beginning of that, Like most shows were not treating kids
like that one no, no.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
No, kids were treated like adults. And this is what
you're doing this, this is.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Your job, Chad.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Now, Michael Jacobs, I mean we talk about it on
Boy Me throwing the characters. The education was very important
to Michael and to the producers in the show. So yeah,
we were kind of allowed to do what we wanted
in that stress. But I think that's another reason why
A you fit in so well on the cast, but
also be why you let us into your bubble, is
because we all kind of had the same upbringing.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
We were all from close, tight knit families.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
We all chose to be actors as opposed to our
parents dragging us somewhere and being like you're going to
be in the industry. It was like, even though you
started at four and Joe started at three or four,
Joe wanted to do it, oh yeah, and you wanted
to do it at the beginning, and I wanted to
do it, and Ryder wanted to do it. Was all
we didn't have the momagers and the stage manager people

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around it. Like.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
It wasn't like that for us.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
No, No, it's actually crazy thinking about it. I think
it's all You're right. It's what lended to us being
able to get so close to us Like, you're right,
there wasn't one parent that was a problem.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Nope, really rare, dude, y.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Was on set ever really causing a problem.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Ever, I don't want no, well no, it's also at
the time this has since changed obviously because life is
what life is. But at the time there were eleven
cast members on the show and not one divorce.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Wow, which is so like where you go.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Also, I mean so rare that it was that it was,
you know, strange, but we did. I think we found
kindred spirits in each other to where it that it
just worked when you came on, and then of course
they paired us up and it was like and that
was also you know, you're you're the middle brother, but
you're one of three brothers. I was one of three brothers.
I mean, we had a lot in common when they

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when they we both loved music, we both loved TV,
we both loved entertainment.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
We would just be talking about that kind of stuff
all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
And they were like, oh, and then when they really
found kind of the almost odd couple, kind of a
synergy between the two of us where it's like, oh,
straight man and crazy guy put them together, works perfectly.
Then by by season seven, it was just like just
let them go and do their thing. You know, It's
like there was the one Boy Meets World in there.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
And I was telling Sabrina before because one of the
things where she said, oh, did you guys audition for
this or anything? I said no, because there was rumors
that you and I were gonna spin off and do
another show after Boy.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
That would have been great.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
But TGF, like all of TGF went away.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah yeah, And then I don't know if you remember
this well, but then.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Disney then this this is what I heard.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah yeah, and from my representation, not like just through
the sure Disney would actively at least do a pilot
with us, but they wanted to break away, yes, from
that movement.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
And Michael, Oh, is that what it was? Okay?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Of course Michael was like, what do you mean. I
created these characters, I created this. I'm not just going
to hand this off.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Else, And that started kind of for the end of
that last season. That's why it was like it.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Didn't not it didn't end in any way sort of
like bittersweet, but that's why we didn't get to kind
of it was like there was a bit of a
Disney there was friction, right, and.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
It's a bummer.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I've I mean, I've had that happen and even with
our own show there was friction. The reason why, believe
it or not, our brother Loved Sitcom only went two seasons.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, which is was weird because it was hugely popular,
wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yes, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
We're huge. We became the anchor of A Night is
because we were again there was an acquisition where they
were going to move to All one Night and the
team that we were with was the same team that
had done Blossom with Joe.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
It was like almost Joe's spin off.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Sure kind of Blossom, and they had they were big.
I mean, just Don Rio is this well he was
Donrio was the he was the show runner.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
They created it.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
But the actual like two execs were this this company
called uh it was Tony Thomas and Paul Witt.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh yeah sure with Thomas's Hugh they did everything.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
It did legendary I mean the legendary spitcoms, and they
had like three that were going out. We were one
of them and we were doing the best. So their
kind of business plan sort of motto, was well, you
take your anchor show and you attach your other shows
to it.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
It's right.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
The network was like, no, we're only going to take
Burlely Love, because we're going to condense this into a
three show night.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
That's it. It's going to be actually a drama.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Now towards the end, that's when they were moving not
just totally comedic nights. They wanted to do, well, we'll
catch the the early crowd to get them laughing and
then you know.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
And then put on Law and Order. Yeah right, yeah right,
they were moving.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
To that, and they said no. They were very powerful,
and it got into a war, and so we paused
for a year and never and that was it.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Oh isn't that the worst?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
One has nothing to do with you and you have
no power and you can't do anything about it.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, well we were, I mean we weren't.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I mean we weren't like you know, I think we were.
I'd say top thirty, top twenty. But back in the
day that was he was huge, eighteen million viewers and shit,
and you know people would killed for that. Now, okay,
I have two words for you, ladies. Heather Lucklear, Oh

(27:34):
my god, can we talk about her?

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Amazing?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
She's still amazing, She's was she born without a filter.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
I knew she was going to bring it, but I
had no idea she.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Was going to drop this many bombshells.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Like you think most people think it and don't sate.
She just says everything I love that about.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Her, like who she said was the most annoying actor
on the set of Beelrose Plays.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
And then she says sex club and we're like and
I was like, that's not what.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I meant by my innocent question I had for And
suddenly we're in a sex club in New York with
people from melwowths.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
But oh my.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
God, Prime Time's Queen of Mean is our guest this week.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
I'm still the place. All right, Well, here we go.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Buckle up, I get ready.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
We told you Mondays were still a bit.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
I was gonna ask you how brotherly love got through it.
So it was part of sort of a spin off,
like you said, from Joey from Blossom. Yeah, and so
then and then you guys just I mean, the fact
that they took three.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Brothers was just like so awesome.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
It was like your guys's chemistry obviously was just so
dynamic and it just shot off the screen and it
was so easy to just kick back and believe everything
you guys were going through because you guys.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Were actually brothers and stuff. How did that How did
they add you in? Andy in? Like, how was that created?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Was that something that your brother, your family kind of
wanted or.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
I would say my family. That was definitely a family move.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
You know, we just all wanted to be kind of
on the set and be if we were all if
we're gonna be doing that intense work, we all wanted
to be doing it together.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
So and then the networked like the idea both.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Andy and I had, you know, kept pulling our weight
when it comes to our own individual careers and yeah,
and so it was kind of works for everybody around,
you know, and we had like we had a really
great you know, we had the vat of stories because
we were in the entertainmentustry. We were always compiling all
these things that happened in real life that we thought

(29:46):
were pretty relatable. And so that's a lot of that
stuff in that show, even though it kind of seems
crazy and it's obviously a sitcom and you know, gone,
we go for it for the comedy, but a lot
of those things were very real.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
I was angsty teenager.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Andy was always in costume, and Joe was always like
trying to play the father figure.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
But failing that was the basis of the entire so brothers.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Because you just described my three brothers exactly because I'm Andy,
Because I'm Andy. Obviously I'm the youngest, My brother Greg
is you, and my older brother Gary still is the
only person in my life other than my mom who
calls me William. We just.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Literally just talked about.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
This brother Three brothers tend to fall into this dynamic.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
It's so strange.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, oh man, Now, how did how did your relationship
with Disney start?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
With your family?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Because you I mean, how many? How many dcoms have
you guys done?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Together?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
First of all, we've talked about how we get give
him as Flowers all the time. I we we did
our top dcoms of all time and Going to the Mat.
I thought Andy Andy's performance in Going to the Mat
it's still one of the best perform as I've ever
seen on the channel.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's so good. So how did you find your relationship
with Disney? And how many dcoms have you guys done?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
I don't know, that's a good question. How did that?
You know?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I think honestly, I think I think Andy kind of
sort of told that line because Andy ac see it's
a little bit of a misconception because I was I
caught that, we caught the tail end of that, and
we were already on the older age a little bit.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Joe, I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
I don't think it's funny because he has this reputation
of a Disney thing, but.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
But it's not really. He's not really Disney.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
See he's not really Disney. Yeah, and but Andy, I
think he was.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I think it got down to him one other guy
and Zach Effron for high school musical. Oh wow, Oh
he would have been great in high school musical.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
And I mean Zach is Zach, but he would have
been great.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Zach is amazing, and you know what worked out for that.
But that was the start. Disney then had their eye
on shot.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
That really was because.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know they I remember this one Disney movie that
they did called oh Gosh, Horse Sense, And now it's
kind of where it started with Andy. If I'm not mistaken,
like that was like a joint thing because I wasn't even.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
A part of that.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I just didn't gonna say are you not in? You're
not in that.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I did a cameo just to play fun. I was
literally like a set one day.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
And they dressed okay, walked through the scenes jumping ship. Right,
that was the sequel to that one because it did well.
But yeah, but that was Andy kind of getting like
a shot and and and then they worked out with
Joe and then it worked. So then I kind of
came in and I'm honestly, I think I've only done two?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Have you really?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I don't think again, Like it's a little bit of
a misconception, Andy Toad so much of that weight for
us because our show wound up being bought by Disney
even though it wasn't really right.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, they think that, Yeah, because I remember before you
did Boy The first time you and I ever actually
met and spoke was a couple of years before Boy
Me's World, where we were all at Disney World for
some event. You know, Disney used to put on these
sick events. They used to fly us all in these
amazing jets, and you'd go to these events and I

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remember getting there and be like, oh, there's Lawrence.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Boys.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Why are they going into the nice hotel? And I'm
going into the place. And as I remember, you guys
would always have like the suite Frontierland or whatever it
was called, Well, the Wilderness Lodge. Yeah, they have the
top floorid of the Lawrence brothers and they'd be like,
and then you and your nine friends are sharing the buck.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
The Hilton in what was that?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
It's so funny you bring this up because this is
still talked about in our family to this day. It
was the Polynesian Hotel. Okay, it was the King Kame Maggie,
sweet kid, you not.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
And it became like this big thing because it was
it became like our family vacation and it was grandparents' cousins.
We've got those iconic family photos from one of the
New Year's there where they Disney just treated so wonderfully
on their pet It was like two thousand, actually, I
think it was like two thousand, was it. Okay, So

(34:33):
we we just we would always stay there, man, it
was like that was that was the most important thing.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
We didn't care about getting paid, you didn't care anything
to stay at the King. Everything else we would handle.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
It helped that there were three of you, so that
muscle power you had, I was like that.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Gina girls got to do stuff like that too.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
We got to upgrade a little bit because instead of
getting three different sweets. We would say, wool room together,
but give us this, you know what I mean? So
we kind of we it's using the the power of
the three like to do that actually was like huge
and it made sense for your mom obviously, like two
you know, and then the family and I mean, hey, Grandma, Grandma,

(35:19):
second cousins.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I was like, oh, the Lawrences are here.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
You're in the King Command Man Street, mister Friedel, You're
in three oh eight.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Down the hall, Like, what the hell? Like, really am
I am?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I actually under the latter slide, yes, seriously.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Closing in the ice machine.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Right after that it was I was Michael Scott from
the office trying to crash on people's couches.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh god, it was so funny.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Okay, So we got to get back to the movie
because I've got still so many questions.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Go ahead, what do you got you? Speaking of the two.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
Of you, guys, I'm asking both of you will so again.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
I swear I thought I had watched this movie. As
I start watching it, it turns out I didn't. If
I had, I didn't remember much of it except for
the fact that the two of you were in it.
What I absolutely forgot was that Gabriel Union. Gabriel Union
was in this movie, right what was going on? And
your guys's boy brains realizing she was coming on to

(36:19):
the show, because.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Well, she wasn't big yet, was she.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
I'm about to say yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Really was like right at that same age where she
was doing so much No, okay.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
No, however however, and I was completely like, again, I'm
I'm wearing bubbles, I'm not like a holiday.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
But she knew she was going to be.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
She did, Oh yeah, okay, I believe.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Very clear about that. And in fact, there was this
one moment where and again I'm oblivious, I had no idea,
she wanted to rehearse and I was like.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
No, I'm good, hold on, hold.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
On behind that all right?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I was, I don't know at that point in my mind,
now I can do whatever, and nothing's gonna face with
that point in my mind. I really loved uh memorizing
the lines, knowing all the beats, but hated running it
because it felt like it took all the freshness out
of it.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
We talked and I talked about this.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
We finally got on camera.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
It felt comedy.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I don't want to kill it. I don't wanna I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
These are like really comedy. I just want to They're
gonna give us multiple takes. Let's just keep it fresh.
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
We had I'm gonna we had we had a move
and shake like I was. But I was like, no, no,
I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
And she got angry and and went and reported me
the director and uh, the studio. My god, for you
did not I didn't know that she wait, so she
you got old the only time in my entire career,

(38:07):
because usually I'm like the advocate and I'm fighting for
kids and like, you know, woman's rights, and this is
the only time in my life.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Well, I was called.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Into the office for something I did on set. I
had no and I had no clue. And I'm only
saying that I'm like, wait a minute, wait minute, she
thinks that I was.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
I was, I explained. I was like, no, I want
to keep it fresh. I was like, you guys know this.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
You guys said, They're like what, we totally get it,
but we had to. So my point of all this
story is that she had already had some weight.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
In the area.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I just didn't know.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I had no clue, but she was bringing on came
what two thousand and two, two thousand and three, Yeah,
and those I think, so she's all that.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
All that kind of stuff was at was posts as
double hoox sticks.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I remember the same thing. I remember people saying two
thousand was bringing on. I remember people saying, Oh, she's
gonna be she's gonna be huge, like on the set,
people like she's.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Everybody kind of knew it.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
Me.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, wait, what did they say? I'm sorry, what did
they say when they called you in? Would she say
that what he's refusing to rehearse with me?

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yes? Pretty much? And what was the reason for that?
And I'm like, oh god, I just I wanted to
keep it fresh. I'm like, I was, I was, I
was embarrassed. I was like, oh god, I've never had
I never had on any set ever. I I had
a run in with another actor in particular, I mean
I had with some directors or some sure you know.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Pucers were trying to push me to do things I
didn't want to do. But outside of that, like, I
never had no.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
You're you're exceptionally easy to work with. You are exceptionally easy, man.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I didn't know that that was great.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Geez.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
I mean she's just such a force, like I just
she's so beautiful and she just has this like aura
of just confidence and she's so tough and.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Very much crazy. Do you remember anything about the reception
of the movie.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I can't remember anything about like when it aired, or
we didn't do anything right, did we do any press
or like I can't remember any.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Of this, Okay, So yeah, honestly, that was that was
an era where we didn't have the avenues that we have.
I can you can you imagine with social media and everything? Yeah,
slightly different time. Yeah, slightly different time.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
To be honest.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh, I mean, and this was this was not added
that ordinary a lot of US actors, you know, unless
the studio or the network put you on some sort
of circuit, you were like.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah, done onto the next.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Really was thinking about it, and that's the way it
went down. No, we didn't like lick a Press. I
mean I didn't even.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
These movies were coming out so often on ABC. Disney
had the d coms that were coming out every month.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
It was it.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
It just wasn't something that they were like I guess
I'm assuming they just didn't need to, like they just
would put it out and the kids were waiting for it,
and they watched it and they fell in love with it,
and then I know, I don't.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
I know that they did it a little bit on
ABC with these kinds of movies.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
They would rerun them, but not like the channel would
run those d coms like they would be on all day, like.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
It was like a marathon like that everything.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I think that's the difference, is what. So the ABC
and Disney would promote the concept or the night as
opposed to an individual project. So it's like they would
promote Wonderful World of Disney. They wouldn't promote h double
hockey sticks, right, you know, so I think that's what
they were doing. Was it's more like maybe we did
because I don't remember doing anything like literally, I don't

(42:00):
remember doing a single thing with you, a single talk show,
a single interview, which is why nothing.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Yeah, because they put a lot, I mean they put
This did not look like one of their like low
budget ones that we've seen.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
It did not look like that at all.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
Looked like a very like good sized budget that you
would think that they would have put that extra effort
into the actors.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
That they pulled in.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
You guys, you guys this was like the mecca of
of your guys's like time that like either they just
didn't feel like they needed to or I'm just not
sure how that whole marketing you know, department worked at
that time.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
But I mean it always still worked because obviously.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Every speakleaw it's just huge.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
So it's it's I mean, you guys know you're going
to the cons and you're seeing them and like they're
bringing up this movie, not just the shows. You guys were,
you know, well known for these movies that you also did.
I'm sure Woorse sense is brought up to Andy all
the time, you know, going to the map.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
I'm sure it is.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I see it every day because I have the on
on our the wall in my bedroom.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
We have a wall of just all these different random pictures,
and one of them is you and I with the
Stanley Cup just dress.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Dressed as our characters. We're like dressed as our characters
and everything. Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I think that was like maybe the I found that picture.
I think that was like the third picture I ever
put on social media or something.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Wasn't really everyone I was like, you know this, but
I was like I.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Looked at I think it was Instagram. I looked at
Instagram as like a scrap book. Yeah, and I was like,
I'm just gonna scrap some photo.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
I came across like this is a perfect photo.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
No, I love that. Uh So, while we have you here,
what what else are you working on? Is there anything
you want people to know about?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I mean, you're still doing your podcast, which has been huge,
and we're we're still trying to get you know, I've
been on, but we're still with all our schedules trying
to get you know, we've we've had it scheduled and
then we have moved.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
So we're gonna, i know, the pod Meats World crew
is gonna come over and join you guys. But what
else are you working on? Anything you can talk about,
anything you're having fun with?

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely we are.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
You know. It's there's this really interesting push now because
I think people have realized that a lot of the
advertising dollars are moving over.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Into the small screen versus the screens.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
And a lot of people under thirty really don't even
man maybe to watch a specific thing, but they're they're
mostly on phones and laptops and I have you know,
it's and all this stuff so there's been this kind
of push to figure out how to do one ninety
one minute to ninety second almost kind of like a
running series. So right now me and my brothers are

(44:36):
playing with We've shot, like I don't know, more hours
than we probably should have. I've just been the last
couple of months has been editing and trying to figure
out how to do this. So we're going to be
putting this out, you know, maybe across all platforms. We
don't know, unless like YouTube, YouTube is gonna like we're

(44:56):
going this route, We're going Youtube're going. I me, we
want to hit that like because that seems to be
where you can monetize successfully, but you can also keep
people's attention if you're gonna say, everyone's got such a
short attention span now that.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
You can't go more than you can't go more. I
mean really, I wish they would post pushed down to thirty.
That would make it perfect.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
But you know, minute minute a half, that's you know,
the sweet spot right now, and so everybody's trying to
figure it out, Like TikTok's trying to do this, do
this right now, YouTube, like YouTube TV is going to
have a part, you know, YouTube TV is one of
the and it's really not trying to do an ad
for them.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
I'm not paid by that, I literally am not. But
YouTube DV is amazing streamers. You get all the normal
television channels like you would anything else with a CAB
or anything streaming. It's great and they do everything really well.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
But what they're adding to that is a content creator
channel well, which is basically it's going to be that
it's going to be shorts things that people want to
put it on, and they're gonna open it up to
it's just gonna be on what the fans like, and
if your fans move it, it gets picked up.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
The fans don't doesn't get picked up, and that's just
the way it is. There's no like around it.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
So there's all these different people are trying to figure
out how to bring in this, yeah into television because
it's kind of our new TV. So we're looking around
in that space a lot, and that stuff's going to
start to come out, and again I'm not sure, because
we're going to present it to them and see if
there's like more of an overall deal, or we might

(46:23):
just go and we figure out, Hey, we're just going
to go across all platforms with it.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
So shoot, nowadays they're saying nowadays, they're saying, just own
all your own stuff. Yeah, just own it, hold on
to it, just put it out.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
That's what we did with the podcast because we you know,
we didn't initially and we went a different direction, and
then we realized that the only way for this, for
us to make this really you know, beneficial.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
For everybody, the fans, us, is for us to do
it alone. There's just we there's no way we could
cut it up all the pot and it's too much.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
So yeah, well, tell me about the movie that you
guys produced as Brothers Merry Christmas. That must have been
such a huge undertaking, like it should. I mean, it
looks so fun. You guys are you're just so good
to be such a good group.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
How was that that was? That was crazy? It was
a lot of fun but stressful.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
We did it nine days, oh oh my god.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
And the only reason why we have been attempt that
is because we had previously done one with a lot
of the crew, a lot of the location and uh,
and so we.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Knew we could pull it off.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
But and we you know, self funded it, so we
had to you know, completely as tight as possible, and
so I wish we.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Had thirty days.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
It would have been every comedic beat would have been
flushed out and everything would have been.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
So much better.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
But hey, that's what we had, and we did what
we could with it. But it was it was an
undertaking and it was absolutely freezing the entire time. Like
I think The Highway was in the thirties, but most
of the time it was in the teens. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Andy directed it.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, and he directed it and pretty much wrote the
entire thing with his h with our production partner and
his wife.

Speaker 7 (48:15):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (48:16):
Man, do you guys think you'll do more? Is this
like you're kind of putting it right now today?

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
No, we're developing one right now with a company, which
I would say, but I probably just shouldn't because it's sure.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Sure, but we're developing one. It's like an action movie
that's really cool.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
Oh nice.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
You know I'm just sitting here, you know, I'm just
sitting here waiting to work with you again about this
A thousand times.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Even stress. If you would be a part of it,
we would love to have you.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
We we've talked about this all the time about how
if we don't even care about.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
We just want to work with people that we like.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
That's how that's we feel this. I feel the same
my friends.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Incredibly talented you are. We would love to have you
do true True as well, anytime, anytime we would have you.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
The problem is, honestly, one of the truth is because
we haven't had the proper finances to offer you something
for coming on set.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
We haven't offered It's like we don't have.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Any five to seven mil. And I think we'd be fine,
but it's.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Coming up because we're not self funding anymore. We're now
moving into other people funding.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, you paid to come and work with us.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
I just want to It's one of those things where
I truly I feel like you do. I just want
to be on the set on sets again with people
I like, hanging out with That's it. Money, no money, awesome, script, okay,
script whatever, Just spending my days with people that I like.
That's why I love doing these podcasts because it's like
I get to spend my time with people that I like,
and so that's all that matters, frankly.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
So yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Oh stop it, will I should.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Say people that I like and Sabrina, which is, which
is fun too.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
It's just so fair.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
So when we do uh jumping ship, will you come back?
Of course, let's do it all right? Good, I need
you guys, We'll come back.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
And we've got to ask this, like overall, will you
now look back on HG Double Hockey Sticks?

Speaker 6 (50:19):
What are your feelings?

Speaker 5 (50:20):
I mean, did you did you get a chance to
watch it or anything at all before we did the podcast?
Did you check out check out the one headshot they
use over and over again for all of your sports casts.
It was just one that you were on set for
all these days and they just got one of those.
But what are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Looking back?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Looking back on it?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I I guess the only thing, I mean, the only
thing I could say is personally that you know, you
never realize you never. I never thought that would be
the last time that we were going to be on
camera together, maybe possibly ever.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Well for film, because we did.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
We did, We went, We went after this was in
between six and seven a boy, so we stayed on.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Yeah, but I didn't know if we were going to
be going on to do other things.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Right we thought we were.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I thought we were yes things. So I didn't take
the time with it that I wish I had. I
would have even spent more time with Will. I would
have read the darn script, coned over it and and
at least gone, how can I do my part the
best possible to put us in the best light. Sure,
and didn't do all that, And so looking back, like
those are things that personally I wish I could have done,

(51:36):
but so thankful to be a part of it.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
And it was a fun movie.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
It was a fun movie because we were especially going
back into taking this journey and watching all the Disney
Channel movies.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
They're not all going to the mat.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
There's there's there's a lot of them that we watch
and we're like, wow, like how how the did this
get made?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
And h and Hockey six is not one of those.
It's it's it's also not going to the mat, but
it's what. It's what it's But it's good.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
But it's good, it's an it's enjoyable to watch, it's funny.
We're clearly having a good time.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
And and there's you know, like I was telling, like
these stories were coming back as we were watching it.
I completely forgot I told Sabrina. I was like, oh,
this scene right here was the best special effects of
the movie and you'd never know it. Do you remember
the scene where you're getting your coffee it drops from
the thing and it was pouring rain and they had
us under tarps and then they digitally took out the tarps.

(52:30):
I was like, that was the best special effects of
the movie.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
You couldn't tell, never ever know.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah, it was stories like that that I remember the most.
Was where it's like how we how we're gonna shoot
It's like monsoon rain, Like we're gonna hold tarp over you,
like wait what.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
So yeah? Yeah, and then you almost got me killed.
And that's what I'm gonna remember. So those are the
those are the joys. That's all good stuff. Well, thank
you so much for joining us, mister Lawrence. We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
And uh yeah, please come back when when we do
jumping ship, because it's going to be to wait seeing you. Yeah,
and uh break a leg on everything else. And hopefully
we get to do something in the future because we've
got to.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
You don't understand. I will still wake up some mornings
like maybe that's a good sitcom.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Will we're trying to do is bring the sitcom back.
I mean, I would love to bring the sitcom back.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
There's no I mean, because what they've lost because you're
even seeing it right now, like they're putting their trying
and they're putting really talented sitcom people together that don't
have chemistry, and you're like, I know, it's not that
they're individually it's like when you do that to a
super team, it's like, not that they're individually so talented.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
They got to play well together exactly.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
So if we could get an ensemble like that together,
to dude, I know, people would tune in to watch it.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I know.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I think, well, you know the show that is more
popular now than it really ever has been, and there's
never been that version of the show done for our
age group is Friends in their forties.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
The six Because you'd have the people that are divorced,
you'd have the people that are I mean, it's a
whole different section of life than when you're in your twenties.
So here's what I want to say to the networks.
I'd be like, and here's the thing you remember is
that you're not putting this show on the air for
thirties and under.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Okay, putting it on the air for the same audience.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
Yeah, TV from.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Back then, and guess what if we do good enough,
you'll get a second run on streaming when kids finding
you can get that into your mind and look.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
At it like that. Yeah, it's a double wammen.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Oh yeah, maybe we should make this show.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
Yeah instead of rebuilt like rebooting the shows and bringing them.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
It's also sitcom, old school four camera sitcom is cheaper
than doing single camera.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
So you can get as good a product for less money. Yeah,
it's it's a no brainer. But we'll work on that.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
By the way I showed it, I started the entire
thing in my original h double. This is the jacket
that I wore in the movie and it is still
my raincoat to this day. So gosh, thank you for
joining us. We're gonna in h for for when we
do Jumping Ship, which will be coming and break a leg.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
On everything in the future.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Thanks guys.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
You talk to you soon, Ye talk to you soon.
Oh man, he's just awful, you know what I mean by.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
Amazing.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
I love that this was just to find out. This
was his first time out on his own without Guardian.
You know, with him that he was able to go
and like just because that's such a coming of age
moment and you know, it's like going to college. It's
like that kind of thing, like you're working and you're

(55:57):
used to doing it with your parents there and you know,
his parents seem like they were great, but then you
have to do it all by yourself and things come
up and yeah, whatever, you know, especially knowing like he
had like an issue the first time, like the studio
called him about something like.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
That, having to like do you want parents and go
what do I do?

Speaker 5 (56:19):
You know what I mean, like what you know, to
have to kind of sit in it on your own
and like figure out how to how to navigate that.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
That's really cool, well all for him, all three of
the Lawrence brothers. You know, they're the type of people
where they have every excuse to be jerks, and they aren't.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
They aren't. They really are fun, nice people to hang out.
That's a wonderful family.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, they're they're they're great. I remember I forgot to
tell to bring this up, but I just remember that
when we were shooting. He is such a fan of music,
like Matt is.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Their whole family is very musical, but he is such
a fan of music that that you know, he would
go to Tower Records every week or the equivalent of
Tower Records every week and you'd see him walk in
with a stack of CDs, I mean fifty CDs and
I'd be like, what are you doing.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
He's like, this is all the new music that came
out this week. Like he that's what Matt would just
like this is everything and listen there.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
They're such musical people that they were just there like
they owned all of music.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
So it was yeah, cool.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
It sounds like he didn't have just the genre either.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
He had like no, he just no, he loved everything
everything everything.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
I like music, Yeah, kind like music music.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Music.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Oh man, Well, thank you mister Lawrence for joining us
on Magical Rewind in this wonderful park Hopper episode, and
thank you everyone for sticking with us, uh and.

Speaker 9 (57:39):
For being here when I let everybody know that Mount
Lawrence almost got me killed, which is wow what he
did so very large man wanted to beat me into
a pulp in the middle of downtown Vancouver.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I will say this, if we fought, I would have
you Oh yes, yep, but what have somehow hurt myself
while just standing up and then I would have just
been pounded into a little squish puddle. So oh to
whoever that guy was, I apologize we were young, but
it is.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
It is what it is, so you can't be mad.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
It's not your fault.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
You got the girl nice, it wasn't my fault.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Thank you so much, everybody, and don't forget next time
to join us over on our other feed where we
are going to be watching twenty twelves Let It Shine,
which is.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
A musical about so different from Let It Go, which
is different than Let It Go. But we will, we will,
we will, we will cross that Let It Shine Bridge
when we get to it. Because I know nothing of
this movie other than this at all.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
I am a hip hop version in the director's credits.
This is one I do not know. So I'm excited
to see what it's gotta be good. It has to.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
We'll see you next time. Thanks everybody, Bye bye bye

Speaker 4 (59:00):
M