March 9, 2026 • 42 mins
Tori is joined by famed plastic surgeon Dr. Terry Dubrow and nothing (and no one) is off limits. Jim Carrey, Brad Pitt, Kris Jenner, and why men never look quite right after going under the knife. Plus: Ozempic face, facelifts in your 40s, and the beauty trends changing everything. And yes, Dr. Dubrow evaluates Tori's face on camera, and the answer is not what Tori expected.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hi my friend, Hey, how are you? I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I was like, really, I was really nervous today because
even though we've known each.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Other forever, I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I was like, I've never I don't know if I've
ever seen you like on a zoom or like in
the daylight.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That came out wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's scared to see me in the daylight.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, I'm scared for you to see me in the
daylight so thin.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So I was getting ready for this podcast and usually
like I just put a little makeup on and I
was like, oh my god, wait, everything has to look good.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I can't look I'm gonna judge. I'm gonna judge.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, I love you. I know you were judge. I
need judging for you in my own head.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The entire podcast. By the way, do you see all
this stuff? I don't know if you've seen TMZ lately,
but I come out of these restaurants and you know,
I love when the paparazzi's there. I know you probably
don't love it, but I love it because I'm not
that famous. But and they've been they've been asking me
about Jim Carrey, Bradley Cooper, It's like, what do you
(01:22):
say when you're confronted with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's so mean, right, Terry Dubreau, what do you say?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, so you know the big deal that just happened
with the Jim Carrey in the Lifetime Achievement Award in Paris,
and he looks so different, and all they want to
do is talk about the way poor Jim Carey looks.
So I'll tell you what I said. If you want
to know I do. So I said, Okay, we've been
(01:50):
and this is really true. We've been used to seeing
Jim Carrey for so many years look so young, right,
And you know, I think when a person gets a
little older and they change someone like Jim Carrey. Okay,
so he looks different. Whether or not he's had plastic surgery,
I don't know. I still think he looks great. And
by the way, if he's had plastic surgery, what I
(02:11):
said was, you know, plass surgery could take a long
time for the swelling to come down. You could look
different for a while, and don't judge by what necessarily
he's looking like. Now. I don't know if he's had
plastic surgery, But I said, you know, he's kind of
our national comedic treasure. Can't we be a little more kind?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's the part I love the most, and that's the
part they won't use.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, actually that was up TMZ was cool. They said
that TMZ put it on. Yeah, I was very pleased.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, they put it in the whole national treasure.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Don't you agree?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes, of course. Do you think he got something done?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well? I mean he does look different, right, he does
look different.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Is it because we haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I think part of it. We haven't seen him for
a while, and he maybe he's gotten a little bit older,
but I don't know. You know, they're doing Every plastic
surgeon in the world is going online and talking about
there's less skins, up rye lids and his browser higher,
and they're like dissecting him with a microscope, which is
so unfair, I think. And I'm cool And what happened
(03:26):
to the old stop don't body shame people and don't
body shame celebrities. It's kind of like body shaming to
really be doing this.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Don't you think I'm having PTSD Because my entire career
since I was seventeen before there was internet. Wow, there
was you know, the Inquirer, the Globe. It was like
the tabloid paper magazines and Globe came out with something
when I was seventeen. I had just started nine on
(03:54):
two and zero and gotten famous, and they were like,
she's had all this plastic surgery. So they did something
like that to a seventeen year old. I had had
my nose done at the time. That was it and
cheek implants, you know, new Chin, so much stuff. But
that one article I remember my dad said at the time. Oh,
(04:14):
he said, oh babe, don't worry. Next week it'll they'll
be on to someone else. No, that one article has
stayed with me my entire life. Really plastic surgery I've
had done?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Really? Oh yeah, well okay, not about me, No, no, no,
about me, No, no, I want to know. But I
think back then mm hm, there was sort of this
feeling like you guys were maybe more fair game. Well,
I guess it's the same now, but at least we
went through that period of time when the people on
(04:46):
Fashion Police were commenting on who's the name of the
actress who's like maybe married to Spider Man. They were
talking about her hair or something. Yes, and overnight it
became boo to body shame, and so there was a
big sea change right then. This is way after they
were going after you, where people said stop, it not cool,
(05:10):
and I thought we had gotten past that point. And
again here we are again with the speculating about everybody's
plastic surgery. And I just think it's really mean spirited
and uncivilized. And at least when they were doing it
to you, plastic surgery was, you know, sort of whoa
(05:31):
new Nobody was talking about it. It was still mean
and partinding for seventeen year olds, but so wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Seventeen it like crushed my soul. I never really saw that.
I never unheard it like it was. I was a
seventeen year old girl that was like, okay, am I
pretty I'm trying to find myself in this world.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But I'm on TV.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But I'm just like I was in high school for real,
and it's like yeah, and then yeah, it's kids were
like it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I know, but you know what, let's let's be empathic here.
I mean, don't you think Jim Carrey is not ignoring this?
Don't you think he actually he's trying to avoid it.
But as strong and as wealthy and famous as he is,
I'm sure it's affecting him. It would affect anyone, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's interesting you say that because I feel like people think, oh, celebrities,
they don't have a heart, like they don't care. They're
you know, non human. You can say whatever about them.
But even having like I know, it hurts me to
hear it. Still to this day, when I see something
on Instagram, I just get immediately my heart plummets. But
I guess I do wonder too, Like you know, a
(06:39):
list celebrities do they care?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
They care? Of course, they're human, you know, even for
a D minus list like me. You know, there was
a time about ten years ago when I had a
little I got really fit. My face got a little gaunt,
so I had a little bow talk, I mean a
little love filler put in and and I said to
my guy, go, oh, just put a little more because
(07:03):
I'm about to lose more weight. And I looked funky,
and they to this day make fun of me. Now,
to be honest with you, I don't really care because
I'm not on TV. Because the way I look, you know,
has nothing to do with that. And I really and
maybe because I'm a guy, and maybe because I really
don't care, but I promise you it. Uh. You know,
(07:25):
every once in a while, scrolling around at three o'clock
in the morning and someone will say even to me,
oh his nose and his filler and his last ex
seried being is and I go, you know, f you.
It even bugs me too, right, So if you're human,
it bugs you, and I just think it's really uncool.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Right, So you're like as you but also internally you're like, oh,
that hurts my feelings.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Like right at three o'clock in the morning, it hurt
my feelings. I think by the light. Why right when
I've got during day, I go, oh, f you, I'm
just lucky to be able to do what I do.
So but I just think it's you know, it's me.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's horrific.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And yeah, I purposely like I'm fifty two, I'll be
fifty three in May, and I purposely go the other
way because everyone says.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Every photo I put up, people say stop with the filler.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm like, I'm going to do it, Like I don't know,
it's like I guess at this point I should be
like fucking and just have my whole face done, because
they already say I've had it done. So it's like
I can't win. But I don't know why that keeps
me from like doing stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, I think what Chris Jenner did was the most
brilliant think of all. She just went rather than go, oh,
I'm on new hormones or I've lost a little bit
of weight or I'm eating better, she went, f it,
I had some work done. I love it. Once you
do that, you know it's over there. You're you're no
longer a target anymore because you're admitting to it. So
(08:50):
sometimes at some point, if you decide to do something
which you don't look like you need anything, you should
just go, hey, look what I'm doing. Suck it. And
then and then they'll go, oh, we can't hurt her feelings. Yes,
we can't hurt her feelings, so we're going to leave
her alone.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know what, You're right.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I find myself and I don't comment back, typically on
Instagram when they put the mean comments, and I find
myself sometimes though, being like, no, it's not true. You know,
have I had filler in the past, Yes, Like I
don't have filler. Right now, I have botox, and I
have that like telling them what I have, like why
(09:29):
am I like it's like I'm scared to like like, no,
I haven't had all that done.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Maybe just disarm them next time and consider going yeah,
isn't it great? I love it? And more true though
I know, or just go well or just say well
more to come, and they'll go, oh, we can't, we
can't hurt her feelings. They'll move on to somebody else.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But now, like now that is the hot topic that
every woman is like, yes, I'm proudly getting a facelift,
like what you said about Chris Jenner, but like everybody
is following suit.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
The problem is it's still not okay for a man
to admit it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh oh interesting, No, you're right, isn't that weird?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean not, And Tory, what's weird is why are
women looking so good after plastic surgery and men are
still looking so weird? Have you noticed that? It's almost
and I promise you yes, these A List celebrities and
I don't know, okay, I'm speculating these A List celebrities
are going to the same one that the A List,
the A List male celebrities are going to the same
(10:32):
plastic surgeons as the A list female and they're if
they're having it, they're coming out looking very different.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Right, well, what what is that mental different?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No? I think the plastic surgeons aren't necessarily realizing you
have to dial it back. You have to have a
lighter hand, Like if you're going to do a guy's
upper lidge, right, don't take all the skin, don't expose
the entire upright lid platform. You know why they never
looked like that. I mean when a woman is twenty five,
(11:10):
often commonly you can see all of her upbryeld skin.
They have no hooding at all. Okay, and so a
man never looked like that. So for a woman, if
she developed you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Said hood sorry, I don't know, right, like a ten
year old kid.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Right, But for a woman and she goes from like
twenty five to fifty five, and she's developed laxity in
up ryelids, and you take it away, you take it away,
she just looks twenty five again, she looks great. If
you do that to a man, you didn't turn back
the clock. You altered them. And that's the thing about
plastic surgery. Even if it's perfectly executed, but you can
(11:51):
see it. It looks altered. It's no good, right.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, you're right. They should just be like, oh you
look so fresh, you look great.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, so for a man the twenty years, Yeah, for
a man, the principle is, don't take all the skin,
don't pull the neck completely tight, you know, just go
about seventy five percent of the way. All right. With
a woman you can go all the way.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I don't want that when the time comes, I don't
want it all the way though.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, let's say you had some laxity in your neck,
all right, like I did. Let's say you had this
this thing right, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
All right, this is all slipping.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So if you did this, if you did this, do
it right now. Okay, does that without without distorting the lips, right,
do it like that? That's all the way. Doesn't that
look great? Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That looks great?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Okay, So that's all the way for you. For a man, if.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm doing this now, I must do this the rest of.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
The mis If a man is sixty five and he
looks like that, it's there's something and not congruent, some
incomebruent about it. There's something like why does this sixty
five seventy year old man have no laxity. It doesn't work.
(13:09):
It looks altered, particularly with the gray hair or the
no hair. It just looks weird. It doesn't look weird
for a woman. It doesn't look weird for a woman.
So that's the basic principle. I don't think plastic surgeons
are appreciating right now.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's like when I used to, like when I first
started getting like a botox touch up, like when I
was in my thirties. I remember I would go with
like a guy friend, and yeah, it didn't look good.
It was like, oh wow, like you know, I looked frozen.
It was cool, Like he looked frozen. And he was like,
oh no.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's too much. It's you shouldn't look shiny and frozen
as a guy. It doesn't. We just were supposed to
have lines. It's masculine to have the elevens, to have
transverse forehead lines. You're supposed to have some crows feed,
all right. I mean you look at who is the
guy who drove the Ferrari and why that's one of
(14:01):
the most gorgeous men of all time? You know the
tv PI, what's the most Selick. Tom Okay, you take
Tom Selleck at thirty five, right, he had wrinkles. Yeah,
it looked awesome. If Tom Sellick today were to have
female type plastic surgery and have everything erased, it would
(14:24):
look weird.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
But in all fairness, like that was the eighties. Like
what it's like the Golden Girls notion. It's like, it's true,
everyone's starting earlier and earlier, but.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Even you know, thirty five year old, forty year old
guys got upper eye lid litting and wrinkling, it's still
still good. You know. The only one I've seen who
really has gotten away with it completely.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I don't know that not plastic surgery. I just mean
looking like kill his age, but he's still so hot.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well yeah, he's great. But the one who's have gotten
away with and I don't know what he's done, okay,
but the one who sort of hasn't aged at all
and it doesn't look like plastic surgery is Brad Pitt.
Brad Pitt really looks good. And I don't know if
he's had a face left, but we know he has,
but I don't know if he's had a face, but.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
He looks really good. Yeah, I saw f one and
I was like, what, but.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I have a theories to what he looks good and
not weird? Looking like ready, why Brad Pitt? Okay, you
tell me yours first.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I feel like his overall like being in skin, and
everything got better when he got sober.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh so I felt like the lifestyle changed.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, I just mean, why does Brad Pitt at sixty
with no wrinkles and no Lasia's face, why does that
look okay? Whereas another male at sixty sixty five with
no wrinkles and no laxity, why do they look weird?
Because Brad Pitt's looks are based on feminine beauty. If
you look at him in the Legends of the Fall,
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he's hotter than any female who's in the movie, right,
he's prettier. So I think, if you're a pretty guy,
oh yeah, if you're a raw blow, if you're a
John Stamos, if you're a Brad Pitt, you can have
feminizing plastic surgery and it looks good. But if you're
you know, a different kind of handsome that's not based
(16:29):
on a feminine look and you have feminizing plastic surgery,
it's super weird.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Would you drop the scalpel like that you did. Yes,
you just explained it all. This is right.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, you have to be a feminine looking guy to
have full plastic surgery when you're in your sixties, late fifties,
early seventies to not look weird. Boy, there you go.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What if you already well, I don't know, like look
like a masculine woman. Me, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You don't look like a masculine What do you mean about?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I read the comments over the years and it sticks
in my brain. Are people mean you say I look
like Wendy Williams and Marlon and Sean Wayms from White Chicks?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Wow, that is so incredibly mean.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, well you can smile. I think it's fun.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't think. I think, well, those are the people.
I mean, we're poaching on the housewife with the comments.
You know what I mean? You know, it's it's so
much easier to sit as a keyboard warrior behind this,
you know, behind your little screen, being so mean to
people poaching at you. But you know what's weird. The
weird phenomenon of being famous is that. And see if
(17:56):
you agree, well, tell me if you do agree with this,
there could be a thou you're the greatest. I love you,
look how hot you look? And three you've had too
much plastic surgery. You look a certain terrible way and
you don't even see the good comments. All you really
register are the negative comments.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Right, yes, oh thousand percent. But that's like in life
in general, whether it's in high school, if it's in
your workplace, if it's in your community. People could say
great things to you, and it's that one person that
bullies you or says something that you heard about and
you're like, oh, you can't un hear it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So that's true. You could be going about your day
and having the greatest day and that one comment from
that one person just ruins everything, even though everyone has
told you up until that point, how great you look,
and oh my gosh, you've done you're doing so well.
I think that's human nature. I think that's something we
(18:55):
all have to work on. It's really hard and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I agree. Wait, offline, can we talk about my facelift
in the future.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
By the way, truthfully, you are the world's easiest facelift.
You you can, You're going to do it. If you
do it in the future, you're going to do a christianametrical.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm screwed.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No you're not. You're going to do a Christian everything because, uh,
you're gonna look I mean, you look great, because when
you do this, it is like, I know, isn't that pretty? People?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, a lot of times I see these facelifts, beautiful women.
I'm like, gosh, they look great. Oh you know what.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sorry, I'm like distracted.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I love when people.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Here's how I am starting to know people got a facelift,
even if I can't really tell. They start wearing ponytails
all the time. Everyone has their hair back in a ponytail.
I'm like, wow, they're proud. They're proud they have a
new draw line. Great and new neck awesome. Okay, sorry,
what was I saying?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's that's a good sign? Yeah yeah, well well I
mean that the position goes away.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm worried about.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I see people and all of a sudden, their chin's
gone because it gets olden, it gets too Do you
think that's too tiny?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You're to know. I think what happens with certain faces
is when you get some laxity in particularly along the
jaw line, it makes the shape the shape of the
face more square.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Ew just like people get killer in their drawing, it
can be more square.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Okay, yeah, but you know it can widen the face,
and that can have a masculinizing effect on a female
and for some people, just by virtue of doing you know,
lower mini lift and getting more definition along the jaw line,
it's super feminizing in a good way for women. Obviously,
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that's a really good thing. And I think that's kind
of what happened to Chris Jenner in a way. She
really got a really nice dep definition and it really
had an incredibly positive effect on her facial shape.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know, do you feel like, I mean she had
had something done before.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, she admitted to it. Yeah, she admitted to having
a facelift before.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Okay, yeah, well that's scary because you're like, well, if
I don't get it right this time, second time, maybe
third times, the charm like.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well, I think you know, she had a procedure that
improved or decreased the width, made the jawnline more narrow.
I think she had some stuff taken off the submandibular
glands here, which is a procedure that that surgeon does
very well, and that that really I mean she just
looks great.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
It's really sexy when you keep going from like vertical
to horizontal and vertical.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know, you know what it is. He's trying to
call me. Would you do me a favor? Would you
text my wife until her I'm doing your podcast?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Or get her on FaceTime? Don't you enjoin it? Yeah?
Get her on FaceTime? Say, hey's Tori, I'm doing it
podcast with your husband. Will you you're calling him? Join us?
Why not? This will be fun.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I'm doing a podcast with your husband. Can we FaceTime you?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Otherwise she's going to keep calling me during this podcast
like what she was. Oh, yes, join us.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Coming in hot, that's lady and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Heatherd Brow Oh my god, Now I have.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
To figure out how to do it. Oh god, wait, no,
that's wrong way Hi wait, I'm trying to I can't
figure out how to around. He didn't want to not
answer you, so we decided to just get you on videos.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
My god. No, it was just about I just need
him to call my daughter when you guys are done?
What's on an emergency? Everything's fine?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
How are you, honey? I'm good. I love you. I
love you till.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You're coming on my show.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm so excited two weeks me too. Love you both, okay,
love you.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Just call me when you're done to you Okay, I
will love you. Okay, love you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Almost thirty years married.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I don't know how you guys do it, because you guys,
I see them in real life.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
They're really in love. It's I don't sorry that came
out wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It's just you know, when you've raised kids and been
together so long, I don't know you guys still have marriage.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Marriage. Marriage, as you know is there is a challenge, right.
It has its ups and downs. We've found a way
to work through the downs. The ups are easy. We've
you know, we've all had downs. But uh, she's so
cool and she would laugh at she wouldn't agree with this.
But I'm really easy going. So one of you is
(24:03):
super easy going and she's not me, not so easy going,
Heather to broken be. But but she's sweet, and I'm sweet. Yeah,
and you know, the best sweet and the biggest heart
you know. And I'm the kind of person where in
the middle of the fight, I'm over it and I'm
already apologizing. Even if I know I'm right, i start apologizing, which,
(24:26):
by the way, pisses her off because she knows I
don't really.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I was going to be like, oh my gosh, I
wish I've had someone like that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
No, not nou It would piss you off too. I'll
tell you what. You're arguing with your significant other and
they're over it and they go, you know, I'm really sorry.
You know they're not They're disingenuous and they're not sincere.
They just don't want to fight anymore. They're really like,
let it go, and you know, you want your pound
of flesh in the middle of that argument and they're
giving up and going, I give up. That's not good enough. Okay,
(25:01):
yeah for you, for your your mails, your audience. You know,
we're in a relationship with intense people just letting go
hand cream right now I am. I'm putting on my
hand cream. You know, I as a surgeon, I don't
want to get really you know, creepy old man hands,
(25:23):
because you know, people come in for a constant they
look at your hands, particularly when you're getting a little
bit older, and they're going, oh, I don't want this
craggly old hand guy operating on me. So I use
a lot of hand creams.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Oh my gosh, I was just looking at your hands
via this and I was like, oh my gosh, only hands.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, I put it on my arms, I put on
my knees.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
No, no, it would be a good business only hands only, surgeon. Yeah,
people would pay big money to see your hands, because
I was just like, you just put your hands up,
and I was like zoomed in, like yccess because you're right,
you're going to look at a surgeon's hands.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Of course you are, so so oh go.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Ahead, Oh no, no, no, I just want to ask
you a question. I have creepy hands because I never
listened to everybody around me and didn't put on hand cream.
And my face is like, fine, it's my hands.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, well can you do well? You know I'm not
here to promote my skin care line. I don't want
to be that guy, but you know of someone like me.
I have my own skincare line with Heather for eleven years.
We have and I didn't bring this up to do this.
This was not planned, no, I know. But we have
a hand cream called the Champagne Beauty body Cream, which
(26:31):
has all these nutritionally supportive things to maximize the last
of production. Blah blah blah. That's what I've been using
twice a day forever.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Going back to the Chris Jenner thing. Oh so I
don't know. Wait she said the name of her surgeon. Correct, Yeah,
the guy in New York. In New York.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So I read it online and I was like, I
don't know. I like tanked myself. I was like, oh
my god, like she looks younger than Kim looks now
And I was just like, is this the new wave?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I just want to know what I should do?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So I went online to make a point a consultation.
The consultation was five thousand. I didn't go to the consultation,
but I emailed and they reached out if you'd like
to book a consultation.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's five thousand dollars just for a consultation.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Oh it gets it gets worse. Do you know those
those New York guys. You know what the average selling
price of a facelift is in Manhattan for those guys,
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, And when you know, and really, is it really
any different than a thirty five thousand dollars facelift? And
Ensino No, it really isn't. That's the whole thing, this
whole and that my understanding is that wasn't even a
deep plane facelift. You know, wherever there are these fancy
terms in front of the face, deep plane, ponytail, nano fat, delivery,
(28:07):
new age. It's a lot of advertisement. I would just
don't be persuaded by all the fancies, you know, kind
of advertising terms that we in the business put in
front of things to have patients come into our office,
like ozembic face. Oh my gosh, plastic surgeons love this
phenomenon of ozembic face panic. I call it where Oh,
(28:32):
if you're on a GLP one, and everybody I know
is on a GLP one, Okay, why shouldn't they be.
It's great for you and it keeps the weight off right,
but oh my gosh, your skin. As soon as you
go on the GLP one, you're gonna have ozempic face.
You need to come into our offices and start having filler.
Put it in its sort of the last thing in
the world you should do. O ozempic face panic. Maybe
(28:55):
just slow down the weight loss and or at least
wait a little bit and that it'll recover the elasticsey recovery.
It's like, you know, when you deliver a baby and
you look at your stomach skin the first three weeks
right after delivery. Yes, okay, compare that to how it
looks seven months later.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You're right, it does go back.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
The face who after ozembic face does the same thing.
Because you think about it, it's super rapid weight loss,
just like when you deliver a baby. It's super rapid
weight loss. You know, it's the placenta and the baby.
It's like twelve pounds and all of a sudden, it's
not being stretched out anymore. And can you imagine saying
(29:38):
to people, oh, it's pregnancy belly, you need to come
in within a week. We wouldn't shame them. No, it's
just people that don't understand. But people online will say
a million things about GLP ones, but they don't even
understand what it can do for you beyond just weight loss,
Like there's so many benefits and it's like it's it's
(30:00):
all about sugar and the inflammatory effects of sugar. You know,
it's about these GLP one by the way, whereas it
I I don't even I don't even practice OBC medicine,
But I'm so obsessed with these GLP one drugs that
I studied for a year and I took the American
Board of OBC Medicine Certification exam and I got board certified.
(30:22):
Is that, oh, I have a this is this is
just you know, I have a full diploma. So I'm now,
you know, triple board certified plaster and general surgery. And
now do you know about the pep tides? Are you
into the pep tides?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I've done them. I've done them before. I'm not sure
do they matter?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Do they work?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I did yeah years ago. The injections like when it
first started. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well, but an AD is like one of those peptides.
I don't like an A D. I mean, I look
after people I talked to are on ne e D.
All my patients are on all the peptis. I'm in
Beverly Hills and I moved my practice to Beverly Hills.
Patient comes in burn Console, I go, all, right, what
peptides do on? Oh you're on LAZI, you're on ND,
you're on GHKC, you the okay, and oh you're on
(31:08):
ratitude the whole you know, right, gosh, you know, but
the evidence is for these peptides. It's based on rat studies. Rats.
There's no human studies for ninety percent of these things.
You like rats, but about eighty nine percent of rat
studies are not translatable to humans. So what cures cancer
(31:32):
in rats doesn't cure cancer in humans. It's a lot
easier to cure diseases and turn back the clock in
a rat that it is in a human. We're much
more complicated. So this is like the wild wild West
of human experimentation going on with peptides. Having said that,
I am obsessed with them.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Tides and podcasts, the wild wild West. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well, I love I love podcasts for me.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Too, but it's world like not new.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But you don't know. I mean my entertainment, you know,
used to be television. I almost never watch television. Now
I listen to and watch podcasts like my favorite thing
to do. I'm obsessed with. I think that's how we
get our information out from podcasts. Right, this is true.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
And you have a podcast though.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Idea, Well, our podcast is just like what are we
doing with our life between me and heaven? Between us?
I don't yeah. I mean, if if a person's interested
in what Heather and Terry debrou welcome. If you're not,
don't bother listening.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But you guys are super engaging. Like I I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But you know what the good news is in terms
of the wait thing, there's a new drug about to
come out, okay called REDDA True Tide. Have you heard
of it? I'll bet you have rihtta. You heard of this? Yes,
it's about to be FDA approved. People are already compounding
and using it online. But it's by Eli Lilly, the
one who does monjar O zep bound. It's the next level.
(32:54):
It's the triple Agatis. There's another hormone in it besides
g IP and GLP one. It's it's cut glucagon too.
It's got a fat burner in it. And I'm telling
you nobody's going to be overweight in the future. We're
gonna take everybody's gonna be on these GP one. By
the way, there's another one in the pipeline that's got
(33:15):
all of that in it, plus a muscle enhancer called
myostatin inhibitor that Eli Lilly. So we're all going to
be and this is within probably three years. We're all
going to be skinny and muscular without having to do anything.
And it's true. This is not hyperbole, it's not bus
at all. This is a real thing. Your audience can
go online and look at Reddit true tide plus myostatin inhibitor,
(33:39):
and it's like, oh my gosh, very very soon, this
whole weight loss. Nobody's going to be overweight anymore, you know,
or or not muscular.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Or or not old not anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, I know. And we're all gonna have to find
something to do before the robots take over. It's scary.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Have you seen Ryan Murphy's The Beauty My Chance?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
By the way, the last episode, don't say a word.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I'm not going to tell you anything about it. I
would never spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I've watched it as the entire series, but not the last.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So I love the first six episodes. And it got
a little funky and silly. Oh yeah, no, it was
good till okay, it tends to. Yeah, it did a
little jumping of the shark. It got a little, uh,
kind of ridiculous for a moment. I think maybe the
last episode is the most ridiculous one. I'm not ruined
(34:39):
anything all.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I think it happens it's so bummed.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I know, but don't you think it's great?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Well, I originally wanted to see it because Death Becomes
Her as one of my favorite movies of all time
with Meryl Streep, Goldie Hawn, Bruce Willis where you know,
get that and you know the thing forever the substance
with de me moour, Yes, And that was a terrifying
version of it.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Right, Well, this is kind of terrifying the beauty too,
isn't it in a way? People blowing up?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I just blinked on her name? What is her name?
The Isabella Rossolini? Right, Remember she gives it to Meryl
Streep and then she goes now a warning and she's like,
now warning. So I was like, that's so that's why
she's in this one, right because original to call back.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
But here's the question for you. Someone comes to you
and they go, hey, we've got this new injection all
right that we're going to inject at you, and you're
going to turn into a super young, best version of
yourself that you possibly could be, and you're going to
(35:55):
be unrecognizable to everybody who's ever known you, including your kids.
But you're going to be incredibly gorgeous and perfect and
a ten out of ten? Are you doing it?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Am I thinking about this as tory spelling or just
like a female. This is impossible that no one would
recognize me. Like if I turn into like suddenly a
twenty year old Donna Martin, They're still going to recognize me.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
No, wait a minute. You saw what happened to when
they get injection of the beauty there.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
So it's not a younger version of you. It's a
little bit different.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Right, like that FBI agent suddenly got a British accent. No,
you wouldn't, because well, the point is Isabella Rossellini on
that show, despite the fact that her husband did took
the shot, her kids took the shot, she not taking
(36:54):
the shot, not taking it yet. I'm not going to
tell you about the last episode. I know that's not spoiler.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I know.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I know by the way, the last episode just you know,
has nothing to do with what we've been talking about.
This Isabelle ross LDI, whether or not she's gonna take
the shot has a total shocking ending. Yes, total shock
that you're going to go what, yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Go in Ashton Kutcher, do you think I.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Think he's forty four. Here, somebody needs to check that.
I'm gonna guess forty four. He looks great. By the way,
Why did he's forty eight? He's forty eight? Okay, even okay.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Okay, does this go with your theory of a beautiful man?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
But he's not like he hasn't had a facelift.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I can promise you I don't think he's had a facelift.
But he he looks real.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Good, you know, whether he's had botox or not. I mean,
he's always been incredibly, incredibly handsome guy. He's still is
right always.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
But Mila Kunis is his wife. She looks incredible, like
the two of them are just very the held up.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well do you know them? I would imagine they'd be
in your circle. I do.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I do know them.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I hear they're very nice, right, very very nice.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's very nice. Yeah, well I'm very nice. And my
face is falling. So is that mean it means nothing?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Your face is not falling.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
It's the mean people, the Jonah age.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
This is what I advise people. If you know one
day you're going to bite the bullet and do the
facelift thing, yes, if you know for sure, you're going
to do it. And if you do this to your
face and it looks markedly better, earlier is better than later.
(38:53):
Earlier is better than later, you know what I mean,
because it's a lot less surgery, a lot less surgery,
a lot easier to recover from.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Can you tell me this five years ago?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I don't think you. I don't think you need it now.
I don't think you needed it five years ago ago.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's so yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
The thing now, like, yeah, forty seven year olds, forty
eight year olds are getting it, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Like that, by the way, thirty eight year olds are
coming in now for it, and doctors are selling doctors
are selling thirty four year olds on face. Do not
do this at thirty four, because it's not going to
settle right if you do too many, and once the
angle of its droppings, it all, it all relaxes with time, right,
(39:35):
But once it drops in a weird angle, if you've
had too many and you start to look altered, it's
really hard to go back from that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So you know, I agree with you not to let
it go so much that it's like whoah.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
But not too early either. I mean, look, if you're
thirty eight you've lost three hundred pounds and your face
is droopy. Okay, that's fine, But if it's just starting
to you know, the future of plastic surgery, the very
near future is going to be non invasive skin tightening
things that we do. Right, These they're not that great yet,
but they're getting better. These radio frequency micro needling things
(40:14):
where you, you know, punch little microscopic holes and you
use growth factors in your own blood, you know, and
you deliver energy transmission devices. I mean, I went to
med school. I graduated med school in eighty six, right,
that was twenty four now it was fourteen plus twenty. Yeah,
that was forty one years ago. All right. If you
(40:34):
would have told me when I graduated med school that
in twoenty twenty six you're going to be using a scalpel,
a scissors and lifting and pulling back. In fact, you're
going to even go deeper than you've ever done before
and cutting it off and stitchy, I always said, no, way,
forty one years from now, we'll be using lasers and energy.
(40:55):
It'll be you know, Star Trek, and we're still doing
scalpels and scissors and sutures. It's weird. Isn't it. We
need to get it to the point where we stop
with the cutting and the bleeding and the complications and
go and get this collagen and the elastin to tighten up.
And it's now about no.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
No, don't say that. Heather would be very mad. You
wouldn't have a job. Well, you have to make the
big books.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Well I've I've sort of, you know, done pretty well already.
I don't need it. I do. I do surgery because
I love it. I do surgery because I've acquired specialized
skills at revisional surgery that very people have. I can
fix complications that you know, plast surgeon may see once
in their career. I see them every week. So I
enjoy it. I don't really do it for that reason anymore.
(41:43):
I could certainly stop right now. And I do a
lot of other things too. I have a skincare line,
I'm a medical legal expert. I do eb you know,
I don't really need to operate, you know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I was making a joke. I love, by the way,
botched like huge fan I used to.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
I just remember when I first started watching it, I'd
be like, oh my god, this is what people say
is wrong with me, My nose is watched. But then
I started to honestly fall in love with your passion
and how you change people's lives, and I see it
right now.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's like me when I talk about food.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I'm a foodie, Like you're talking about what you do
and I could see how you love it.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, I'm very, very I've been very lucky in my life.
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hi my friend, Hey, how are you? I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I was like, really, I was really nervous today because
even though we've known each.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Other forever, I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I was like, I've never I don't know if I've
ever seen you like on a zoom or like in
the daylight.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That came out wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's scared to see me in the daylight.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, I'm scared for you to see me in the
daylight so thin.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So I was getting ready for this podcast and usually
like I just put a little makeup on and I
was like, oh my god, wait, everything has to look good.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I can't look I'm gonna judge. I'm gonna judge.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, I love you. I know you were judge. I
need judging for you in my own head.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The entire podcast. By the way, do you see all
this stuff? I don't know if you've seen TMZ lately,
but I come out of these restaurants and you know,
I love when the paparazzi's there. I know you probably
don't love it, but I love it because I'm not
that famous. But and they've been they've been asking me
about Jim Carrey, Bradley Cooper, It's like, what do you
(01:22):
say when you're confronted with that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's so mean, right, Terry Dubreau, what do you say?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, so you know the big deal that just happened
with the Jim Carrey in the Lifetime Achievement Award in Paris,
and he looks so different, and all they want to
do is talk about the way poor Jim Carey looks.
So I'll tell you what I said. If you want
to know I do. So I said, Okay, we've been
(01:50):
and this is really true. We've been used to seeing
Jim Carrey for so many years look so young, right,
And you know, I think when a person gets a
little older and they change someone like Jim Carrey. Okay,
so he looks different. Whether or not he's had plastic surgery,
I don't know. I still think he looks great. And
by the way, if he's had plastic surgery, what I
(02:11):
said was, you know, plass surgery could take a long
time for the swelling to come down. You could look
different for a while, and don't judge by what necessarily
he's looking like. Now. I don't know if he's had
plastic surgery, But I said, you know, he's kind of
our national comedic treasure. Can't we be a little more kind?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's the part I love the most, and that's the
part they won't use.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, actually that was up TMZ was cool. They said
that TMZ put it on. Yeah, I was very pleased.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, they put it in the whole national treasure.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Don't you agree?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes, of course. Do you think he got something done?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well? I mean he does look different, right, he does
look different.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Is it because we haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I think part of it. We haven't seen him for
a while, and he maybe he's gotten a little bit older,
but I don't know. You know, they're doing Every plastic
surgeon in the world is going online and talking about
there's less skins, up rye lids and his browser higher,
and they're like dissecting him with a microscope, which is
so unfair, I think. And I'm cool And what happened
(03:26):
to the old stop don't body shame people and don't
body shame celebrities. It's kind of like body shaming to
really be doing this.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Don't you think I'm having PTSD Because my entire career
since I was seventeen before there was internet. Wow, there
was you know, the Inquirer, the Globe. It was like
the tabloid paper magazines and Globe came out with something
when I was seventeen. I had just started nine on
(03:54):
two and zero and gotten famous, and they were like,
she's had all this plastic surgery. So they did something
like that to a seventeen year old. I had had
my nose done at the time. That was it and
cheek implants, you know, new Chin, so much stuff. But
that one article I remember my dad said at the time. Oh,
(04:14):
he said, oh babe, don't worry. Next week it'll they'll
be on to someone else. No, that one article has
stayed with me my entire life. Really plastic surgery I've
had done?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Really? Oh yeah, well okay, not about me, No, no, no,
about me, No, no, I want to know. But I
think back then mm hm, there was sort of this
feeling like you guys were maybe more fair game. Well,
I guess it's the same now, but at least we
went through that period of time when the people on
(04:46):
Fashion Police were commenting on who's the name of the
actress who's like maybe married to Spider Man. They were
talking about her hair or something. Yes, and overnight it
became boo to body shame, and so there was a
big sea change right then. This is way after they
were going after you, where people said stop, it not cool,
(05:10):
and I thought we had gotten past that point. And
again here we are again with the speculating about everybody's
plastic surgery. And I just think it's really mean spirited
and uncivilized. And at least when they were doing it
to you, plastic surgery was, you know, sort of whoa
(05:31):
new Nobody was talking about it. It was still mean
and partinding for seventeen year olds, but so wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Seventeen it like crushed my soul. I never really saw that.
I never unheard it like it was. I was a
seventeen year old girl that was like, okay, am I
pretty I'm trying to find myself in this world.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But I'm on TV.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But I'm just like I was in high school for real,
and it's like yeah, and then yeah, it's kids were
like it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I know, but you know what, let's let's be empathic here.
I mean, don't you think Jim Carrey is not ignoring this?
Don't you think he actually he's trying to avoid it.
But as strong and as wealthy and famous as he is,
I'm sure it's affecting him. It would affect anyone, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's interesting you say that because I feel like people think, oh, celebrities,
they don't have a heart, like they don't care. They're
you know, non human. You can say whatever about them.
But even having like I know, it hurts me to
hear it. Still to this day, when I see something
on Instagram, I just get immediately my heart plummets. But
I guess I do wonder too, Like you know, a
(06:39):
list celebrities do they care?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
They care? Of course, they're human, you know, even for
a D minus list like me. You know, there was
a time about ten years ago when I had a
little I got really fit. My face got a little gaunt,
so I had a little bow talk, I mean a
little love filler put in and and I said to
my guy, go, oh, just put a little more because
(07:03):
I'm about to lose more weight. And I looked funky,
and they to this day make fun of me. Now,
to be honest with you, I don't really care because
I'm not on TV. Because the way I look, you know,
has nothing to do with that. And I really and
maybe because I'm a guy, and maybe because I really
don't care, but I promise you it. Uh. You know,
(07:25):
every once in a while, scrolling around at three o'clock
in the morning and someone will say even to me,
oh his nose and his filler and his last ex
seried being is and I go, you know, f you.
It even bugs me too, right, So if you're human,
it bugs you, and I just think it's really uncool.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Right, So you're like as you but also internally you're like, oh,
that hurts my feelings.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Like right at three o'clock in the morning, it hurt
my feelings. I think by the light. Why right when
I've got during day, I go, oh, f you, I'm
just lucky to be able to do what I do.
So but I just think it's you know, it's me.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's horrific.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And yeah, I purposely like I'm fifty two, I'll be
fifty three in May, and I purposely go the other
way because everyone says.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Every photo I put up, people say stop with the filler.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm like, I'm going to do it, Like I don't know,
it's like I guess at this point I should be
like fucking and just have my whole face done, because
they already say I've had it done. So it's like
I can't win. But I don't know why that keeps
me from like doing stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, I think what Chris Jenner did was the most
brilliant think of all. She just went rather than go, oh,
I'm on new hormones or I've lost a little bit
of weight or I'm eating better, she went, f it,
I had some work done. I love it. Once you
do that, you know it's over there. You're you're no
longer a target anymore because you're admitting to it. So
(08:50):
sometimes at some point, if you decide to do something
which you don't look like you need anything, you should
just go, hey, look what I'm doing. Suck it. And
then and then they'll go, oh, we can't hurt her feelings. Yes,
we can't hurt her feelings, so we're going to leave
her alone.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You know what, You're right.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I find myself and I don't comment back, typically on
Instagram when they put the mean comments, and I find
myself sometimes though, being like, no, it's not true. You know,
have I had filler in the past, Yes, Like I
don't have filler. Right now, I have botox, and I
have that like telling them what I have, like why
(09:29):
am I like it's like I'm scared to like like, no,
I haven't had all that done.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Maybe just disarm them next time and consider going yeah,
isn't it great? I love it? And more true though
I know, or just go well or just say well
more to come, and they'll go, oh, we can't, we
can't hurt her feelings. They'll move on to somebody else.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But now, like now that is the hot topic that
every woman is like, yes, I'm proudly getting a facelift,
like what you said about Chris Jenner, but like everybody
is following suit.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
The problem is it's still not okay for a man
to admit it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh oh interesting, No, you're right, isn't that weird?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean not, And Tory, what's weird is why are
women looking so good after plastic surgery and men are
still looking so weird? Have you noticed that? It's almost
and I promise you yes, these A List celebrities and
I don't know, okay, I'm speculating these A List celebrities
are going to the same one that the A List,
the A List male celebrities are going to the same
(10:32):
plastic surgeons as the A list female and they're if
they're having it, they're coming out looking very different.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Right, well, what what is that mental different?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No? I think the plastic surgeons aren't necessarily realizing you
have to dial it back. You have to have a
lighter hand, Like if you're going to do a guy's
upper lidge, right, don't take all the skin, don't expose
the entire upright lid platform. You know why they never
looked like that. I mean when a woman is twenty five,
(11:10):
often commonly you can see all of her upbryeld skin.
They have no hooding at all. Okay, and so a
man never looked like that. So for a woman, if
she developed you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Said hood sorry, I don't know, right, like a ten
year old kid.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Right, But for a woman and she goes from like
twenty five to fifty five, and she's developed laxity in
up ryelids, and you take it away, you take it away,
she just looks twenty five again, she looks great. If
you do that to a man, you didn't turn back
the clock. You altered them. And that's the thing about
plastic surgery. Even if it's perfectly executed, but you can
(11:51):
see it. It looks altered. It's no good, right.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yes, you're right. They should just be like, oh you
look so fresh, you look great.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, so for a man the twenty years, Yeah, for
a man, the principle is, don't take all the skin,
don't pull the neck completely tight, you know, just go
about seventy five percent of the way. All right. With
a woman you can go all the way.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I don't want that when the time comes, I don't
want it all the way though.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, let's say you had some laxity in your neck,
all right, like I did. Let's say you had this
this thing right, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
All right, this is all slipping.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So if you did this, if you did this, do
it right now. Okay, does that without without distorting the lips, right,
do it like that? That's all the way. Doesn't that
look great? Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That looks great?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Okay, So that's all the way for you. For a man, if.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm doing this now, I must do this the rest of.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
The mis If a man is sixty five and he
looks like that, it's there's something and not congruent, some
incomebruent about it. There's something like why does this sixty
five seventy year old man have no laxity. It doesn't work.
(13:09):
It looks altered, particularly with the gray hair or the
no hair. It just looks weird. It doesn't look weird
for a woman. It doesn't look weird for a woman.
So that's the basic principle. I don't think plastic surgeons
are appreciating right now.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's like when I used to, like when I first
started getting like a botox touch up, like when I
was in my thirties. I remember I would go with
like a guy friend, and yeah, it didn't look good.
It was like, oh wow, like you know, I looked frozen.
It was cool, Like he looked frozen. And he was like,
oh no.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's too much. It's you shouldn't look shiny and frozen
as a guy. It doesn't. We just were supposed to
have lines. It's masculine to have the elevens, to have
transverse forehead lines. You're supposed to have some crows feed,
all right. I mean you look at who is the
guy who drove the Ferrari and why that's one of
(14:01):
the most gorgeous men of all time? You know the
tv PI, what's the most Selick. Tom Okay, you take
Tom Selleck at thirty five, right, he had wrinkles. Yeah,
it looked awesome. If Tom Sellick today were to have
female type plastic surgery and have everything erased, it would
(14:24):
look weird.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
But in all fairness, like that was the eighties. Like
what it's like the Golden Girls notion. It's like, it's true,
everyone's starting earlier and earlier, but.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Even you know, thirty five year old, forty year old
guys got upper eye lid litting and wrinkling, it's still
still good. You know. The only one I've seen who
really has gotten away with it completely.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I don't know that not plastic surgery. I just mean
looking like kill his age, but he's still so hot.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well yeah, he's great. But the one who's have gotten
away with and I don't know what he's done, okay,
but the one who sort of hasn't aged at all
and it doesn't look like plastic surgery is Brad Pitt.
Brad Pitt really looks good. And I don't know if
he's had a face left, but we know he has,
but I don't know if he's had a face, but.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
He looks really good. Yeah, I saw f one and
I was like, what, but.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I have a theories to what he looks good and
not weird? Looking like ready, why Brad Pitt? Okay, you
tell me yours first.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I feel like his overall like being in skin, and
everything got better when he got sober.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh so I felt like the lifestyle changed.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, I just mean, why does Brad Pitt at sixty
with no wrinkles and no Lasia's face, why does that
look okay? Whereas another male at sixty sixty five with
no wrinkles and no laxity, why do they look weird?
Because Brad Pitt's looks are based on feminine beauty. If
you look at him in the Legends of the Fall,
(16:07):
he's hotter than any female who's in the movie, right,
he's prettier. So I think, if you're a pretty guy,
oh yeah, if you're a raw blow, if you're a
John Stamos, if you're a Brad Pitt, you can have
feminizing plastic surgery and it looks good. But if you're
you know, a different kind of handsome that's not based
(16:29):
on a feminine look and you have feminizing plastic surgery,
it's super weird.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Would you drop the scalpel like that you did. Yes,
you just explained it all. This is right.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, you have to be a feminine looking guy to
have full plastic surgery when you're in your sixties, late fifties,
early seventies to not look weird. Boy, there you go.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What if you already well, I don't know, like look
like a masculine woman. Me, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You don't look like a masculine What do you mean about?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I read the comments over the years and it sticks
in my brain. Are people mean you say I look
like Wendy Williams and Marlon and Sean Wayms from White Chicks?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Wow, that is so incredibly mean.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, well you can smile. I think it's fun.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't think. I think, well, those are the people.
I mean, we're poaching on the housewife with the comments.
You know what I mean? You know, it's it's so
much easier to sit as a keyboard warrior behind this,
you know, behind your little screen, being so mean to
people poaching at you. But you know what's weird. The
weird phenomenon of being famous is that. And see if
(17:56):
you agree, well, tell me if you do agree with this,
there could be a thou you're the greatest. I love you,
look how hot you look? And three you've had too
much plastic surgery. You look a certain terrible way and
you don't even see the good comments. All you really
register are the negative comments.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Right, yes, oh thousand percent. But that's like in life
in general, whether it's in high school, if it's in
your workplace, if it's in your community. People could say
great things to you, and it's that one person that
bullies you or says something that you heard about and
you're like, oh, you can't un hear it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So that's true. You could be going about your day
and having the greatest day and that one comment from
that one person just ruins everything, even though everyone has
told you up until that point, how great you look,
and oh my gosh, you've done you're doing so well.
I think that's human nature. I think that's something we
(18:55):
all have to work on. It's really hard and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I agree. Wait, offline, can we talk about my facelift
in the future.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
By the way, truthfully, you are the world's easiest facelift.
You you can, You're going to do it. If you
do it in the future, you're going to do a christianametrical.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm screwed.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No you're not. You're going to do a Christian everything because, uh,
you're gonna look I mean, you look great, because when
you do this, it is like, I know, isn't that pretty? People?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, a lot of times I see these facelifts, beautiful women.
I'm like, gosh, they look great. Oh you know what.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Sorry, I'm like distracted.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I love when people.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Here's how I am starting to know people got a facelift,
even if I can't really tell. They start wearing ponytails
all the time. Everyone has their hair back in a ponytail.
I'm like, wow, they're proud. They're proud they have a
new draw line. Great and new neck awesome. Okay, sorry,
what was I saying?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's that's a good sign? Yeah yeah, well well I
mean that the position goes away.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm worried about.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I see people and all of a sudden, their chin's
gone because it gets olden, it gets too Do you
think that's too tiny?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You're to know. I think what happens with certain faces
is when you get some laxity in particularly along the
jaw line, it makes the shape the shape of the
face more square.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Ew just like people get killer in their drawing, it
can be more square.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Okay, yeah, but you know it can widen the face,
and that can have a masculinizing effect on a female
and for some people, just by virtue of doing you know,
lower mini lift and getting more definition along the jaw line,
it's super feminizing in a good way for women. Obviously,
(20:49):
that's a really good thing. And I think that's kind
of what happened to Chris Jenner in a way. She
really got a really nice dep definition and it really
had an incredibly positive effect on her facial shape.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know, do you feel like, I mean she had
had something done before.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, she admitted to it. Yeah, she admitted to having
a facelift before.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Okay, yeah, well that's scary because you're like, well, if
I don't get it right this time, second time, maybe
third times, the charm like.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well, I think you know, she had a procedure that
improved or decreased the width, made the jawnline more narrow.
I think she had some stuff taken off the submandibular
glands here, which is a procedure that that surgeon does
very well, and that that really I mean she just
looks great.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
It's really sexy when you keep going from like vertical
to horizontal and vertical.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know, you know what it is. He's trying to
call me. Would you do me a favor? Would you
text my wife until her I'm doing your podcast?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Or get her on FaceTime? Don't you enjoin it? Yeah?
Get her on FaceTime? Say, hey's Tori, I'm doing it
podcast with your husband. Will you you're calling him? Join us?
Why not? This will be fun.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I'm doing a podcast with your husband. Can we FaceTime you?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Otherwise she's going to keep calling me during this podcast
like what she was. Oh, yes, join us.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Coming in hot, that's lady and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Heatherd Brow Oh my god, Now I have.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
To figure out how to do it. Oh god, wait, no,
that's wrong way Hi wait, I'm trying to I can't
figure out how to around. He didn't want to not
answer you, so we decided to just get you on videos.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
My god. No, it was just about I just need
him to call my daughter when you guys are done?
What's on an emergency? Everything's fine?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
How are you, honey? I'm good. I love you. I
love you till.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You're coming on my show.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm so excited two weeks me too. Love you both, okay,
love you.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Just call me when you're done to you Okay, I
will love you. Okay, love you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Almost thirty years married.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I don't know how you guys do it, because you guys,
I see them in real life.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
They're really in love. It's I don't sorry that came
out wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It's just you know, when you've raised kids and been
together so long, I don't know you guys still have marriage.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Marriage. Marriage, as you know is there is a challenge, right.
It has its ups and downs. We've found a way
to work through the downs. The ups are easy. We've
you know, we've all had downs. But uh, she's so
cool and she would laugh at she wouldn't agree with this.
But I'm really easy going. So one of you is
(24:03):
super easy going and she's not me, not so easy going,
Heather to broken be. But but she's sweet, and I'm sweet. Yeah,
and you know, the best sweet and the biggest heart
you know. And I'm the kind of person where in
the middle of the fight, I'm over it and I'm
already apologizing. Even if I know I'm right, i start apologizing, which,
(24:26):
by the way, pisses her off because she knows I
don't really.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I was going to be like, oh my gosh, I
wish I've had someone like that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
No, not nou It would piss you off too. I'll
tell you what. You're arguing with your significant other and
they're over it and they go, you know, I'm really sorry.
You know they're not They're disingenuous and they're not sincere.
They just don't want to fight anymore. They're really like,
let it go, and you know, you want your pound
of flesh in the middle of that argument and they're
giving up and going, I give up. That's not good enough. Okay,
(25:01):
yeah for you, for your your mails, your audience. You know,
we're in a relationship with intense people just letting go
hand cream right now I am. I'm putting on my
hand cream. You know, I as a surgeon, I don't
want to get really you know, creepy old man hands,
(25:23):
because you know, people come in for a constant they
look at your hands, particularly when you're getting a little
bit older, and they're going, oh, I don't want this
craggly old hand guy operating on me. So I use
a lot of hand creams.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Oh my gosh, I was just looking at your hands
via this and I was like, oh my gosh, only hands.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, I put it on my arms, I put on
my knees.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
No, no, it would be a good business only hands only, surgeon. Yeah,
people would pay big money to see your hands, because
I was just like, you just put your hands up,
and I was like zoomed in, like yccess because you're right,
you're going to look at a surgeon's hands.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Of course you are, so so oh go.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Ahead, Oh no, no, no, I just want to ask
you a question. I have creepy hands because I never
listened to everybody around me and didn't put on hand cream.
And my face is like, fine, it's my hands.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, well can you do well? You know I'm not
here to promote my skin care line. I don't want
to be that guy, but you know of someone like me.
I have my own skincare line with Heather for eleven years.
We have and I didn't bring this up to do this.
This was not planned, no, I know. But we have
a hand cream called the Champagne Beauty body Cream, which
(26:31):
has all these nutritionally supportive things to maximize the last
of production. Blah blah blah. That's what I've been using
twice a day forever.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Going back to the Chris Jenner thing. Oh so I
don't know. Wait she said the name of her surgeon. Correct, Yeah,
the guy in New York. In New York.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So I read it online and I was like, I
don't know. I like tanked myself. I was like, oh
my god, like she looks younger than Kim looks now
And I was just like, is this the new wave?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I just want to know what I should do?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
So I went online to make a point a consultation.
The consultation was five thousand. I didn't go to the consultation,
but I emailed and they reached out if you'd like
to book a consultation.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's five thousand dollars just for a consultation.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Oh it gets it gets worse. Do you know those
those New York guys. You know what the average selling
price of a facelift is in Manhattan for those guys,
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, And when you know, and really, is it really
any different than a thirty five thousand dollars facelift? And
Ensino No, it really isn't. That's the whole thing, this
whole and that my understanding is that wasn't even a
deep plane facelift. You know, wherever there are these fancy
terms in front of the face, deep plane, ponytail, nano fat, delivery,
(28:07):
new age. It's a lot of advertisement. I would just
don't be persuaded by all the fancies, you know, kind
of advertising terms that we in the business put in
front of things to have patients come into our office,
like ozembic face. Oh my gosh, plastic surgeons love this
phenomenon of ozembic face panic. I call it where Oh,
(28:32):
if you're on a GLP one, and everybody I know
is on a GLP one, Okay, why shouldn't they be.
It's great for you and it keeps the weight off right,
but oh my gosh, your skin. As soon as you
go on the GLP one, you're gonna have ozempic face.
You need to come into our offices and start having filler.
Put it in its sort of the last thing in
the world you should do. O ozempic face panic. Maybe
(28:55):
just slow down the weight loss and or at least
wait a little bit and that it'll recover the elasticsey recovery.
It's like, you know, when you deliver a baby and
you look at your stomach skin the first three weeks
right after delivery. Yes, okay, compare that to how it
looks seven months later.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You're right, it does go back.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
The face who after ozembic face does the same thing.
Because you think about it, it's super rapid weight loss,
just like when you deliver a baby. It's super rapid
weight loss. You know, it's the placenta and the baby.
It's like twelve pounds and all of a sudden, it's
not being stretched out anymore. And can you imagine saying
(29:38):
to people, oh, it's pregnancy belly, you need to come
in within a week. We wouldn't shame them. No, it's
just people that don't understand. But people online will say
a million things about GLP ones, but they don't even
understand what it can do for you beyond just weight loss,
Like there's so many benefits and it's like it's it's
(30:00):
all about sugar and the inflammatory effects of sugar. You know,
it's about these GLP one by the way, whereas it
I I don't even I don't even practice OBC medicine,
But I'm so obsessed with these GLP one drugs that
I studied for a year and I took the American
Board of OBC Medicine Certification exam and I got board certified.
(30:22):
Is that, oh, I have a this is this is
just you know, I have a full diploma. So I'm now,
you know, triple board certified plaster and general surgery. And
now do you know about the pep tides? Are you
into the pep tides?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I've done them. I've done them before. I'm not sure
do they matter?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Do they work?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I did yeah years ago. The injections like when it
first started. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well, but an AD is like one of those peptides.
I don't like an A D. I mean, I look
after people I talked to are on ne e D.
All my patients are on all the peptis. I'm in
Beverly Hills and I moved my practice to Beverly Hills.
Patient comes in burn Console, I go, all, right, what
peptides do on? Oh you're on LAZI, you're on ND,
you're on GHKC, you the okay, and oh you're on
(31:08):
ratitude the whole you know, right, gosh, you know, but
the evidence is for these peptides. It's based on rat studies. Rats.
There's no human studies for ninety percent of these things.
You like rats, but about eighty nine percent of rat
studies are not translatable to humans. So what cures cancer
(31:32):
in rats doesn't cure cancer in humans. It's a lot
easier to cure diseases and turn back the clock in
a rat that it is in a human. We're much
more complicated. So this is like the wild wild West
of human experimentation going on with peptides. Having said that,
I am obsessed with them.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Tides and podcasts, the wild wild West. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well, I love I love podcasts for me.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Too, but it's world like not new.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But you don't know. I mean my entertainment, you know,
used to be television. I almost never watch television. Now
I listen to and watch podcasts like my favorite thing
to do. I'm obsessed with. I think that's how we
get our information out from podcasts. Right, this is true.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
And you have a podcast though.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Idea, Well, our podcast is just like what are we
doing with our life between me and heaven? Between us?
I don't yeah. I mean, if if a person's interested
in what Heather and Terry debrou welcome. If you're not,
don't bother listening.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
But you guys are super engaging. Like I I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But you know what the good news is in terms
of the wait thing, there's a new drug about to
come out, okay called REDDA True Tide. Have you heard
of it? I'll bet you have rihtta. You heard of this? Yes,
it's about to be FDA approved. People are already compounding
and using it online. But it's by Eli Lilly, the
one who does monjar O zep bound. It's the next level.
(32:54):
It's the triple Agatis. There's another hormone in it besides
g IP and GLP one. It's it's cut glucagon too.
It's got a fat burner in it. And I'm telling
you nobody's going to be overweight in the future. We're
gonna take everybody's gonna be on these GP one. By
the way, there's another one in the pipeline that's got
(33:15):
all of that in it, plus a muscle enhancer called
myostatin inhibitor that Eli Lilly. So we're all going to
be and this is within probably three years. We're all
going to be skinny and muscular without having to do anything.
And it's true. This is not hyperbole, it's not bus
at all. This is a real thing. Your audience can
go online and look at Reddit true tide plus myostatin inhibitor,
(33:39):
and it's like, oh my gosh, very very soon, this
whole weight loss. Nobody's going to be overweight anymore, you know,
or or not muscular.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Or or not old not anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, I know. And we're all gonna have to find
something to do before the robots take over. It's scary.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Have you seen Ryan Murphy's The Beauty My Chance?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
By the way, the last episode, don't say a word.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I'm not going to tell you anything about it. I
would never spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I've watched it as the entire series, but not the last.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So I love the first six episodes. And it got
a little funky and silly. Oh yeah, no, it was
good till okay, it tends to. Yeah, it did a
little jumping of the shark. It got a little, uh,
kind of ridiculous for a moment. I think maybe the
last episode is the most ridiculous one. I'm not ruined
(34:39):
anything all.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I think it happens it's so bummed.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I know, but don't you think it's great?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Well, I originally wanted to see it because Death Becomes
Her as one of my favorite movies of all time
with Meryl Streep, Goldie Hawn, Bruce Willis where you know,
get that and you know the thing forever the substance
with de me moour, Yes, And that was a terrifying
version of it.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Right, Well, this is kind of terrifying the beauty too,
isn't it in a way? People blowing up?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I just blinked on her name? What is her name?
The Isabella Rossolini? Right, Remember she gives it to Meryl
Streep and then she goes now a warning and she's like,
now warning. So I was like, that's so that's why
she's in this one, right because original to call back.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
But here's the question for you. Someone comes to you
and they go, hey, we've got this new injection all
right that we're going to inject at you, and you're
going to turn into a super young, best version of
yourself that you possibly could be, and you're going to
(35:55):
be unrecognizable to everybody who's ever known you, including your kids.
But you're going to be incredibly gorgeous and perfect and
a ten out of ten? Are you doing it?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Am I thinking about this as tory spelling or just
like a female. This is impossible that no one would
recognize me. Like if I turn into like suddenly a
twenty year old Donna Martin, They're still going to recognize me.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
No, wait a minute. You saw what happened to when
they get injection of the beauty there.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
So it's not a younger version of you. It's a
little bit different.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Right, like that FBI agent suddenly got a British accent. No,
you wouldn't, because well, the point is Isabella Rossellini on
that show, despite the fact that her husband did took
the shot, her kids took the shot, she not taking
(36:54):
the shot, not taking it yet. I'm not going to
tell you about the last episode. I know that's not spoiler.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I know.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I know by the way, the last episode just you know,
has nothing to do with what we've been talking about.
This Isabelle ross LDI, whether or not she's gonna take
the shot has a total shocking ending. Yes, total shock
that you're going to go what, yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Go in Ashton Kutcher, do you think I.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Think he's forty four. Here, somebody needs to check that.
I'm gonna guess forty four. He looks great. By the way,
Why did he's forty eight? He's forty eight? Okay, even okay.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Okay, does this go with your theory of a beautiful man?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
But he's not like he hasn't had a facelift.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I can promise you I don't think he's had a facelift.
But he he looks real.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Good, you know, whether he's had botox or not. I mean,
he's always been incredibly, incredibly handsome guy. He's still is
right always.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
But Mila Kunis is his wife. She looks incredible, like
the two of them are just very the held up.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well do you know them? I would imagine they'd be
in your circle. I do.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I do know them.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I hear they're very nice, right, very very nice.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's very nice. Yeah, well I'm very nice. And my
face is falling. So is that mean it means nothing?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Your face is not falling.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
It's the mean people, the Jonah age.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
This is what I advise people. If you know one
day you're going to bite the bullet and do the
facelift thing, yes, if you know for sure, you're going
to do it. And if you do this to your
face and it looks markedly better, earlier is better than later.
(38:53):
Earlier is better than later, you know what I mean,
because it's a lot less surgery, a lot less surgery,
a lot easier to recover from.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Can you tell me this five years ago?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I don't think you. I don't think you need it now.
I don't think you needed it five years ago ago.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's so yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
The thing now, like, yeah, forty seven year olds, forty
eight year olds are getting it, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Like that, by the way, thirty eight year olds are
coming in now for it, and doctors are selling doctors
are selling thirty four year olds on face. Do not
do this at thirty four, because it's not going to
settle right if you do too many, and once the
angle of its droppings, it all, it all relaxes with time, right,
(39:35):
But once it drops in a weird angle, if you've
had too many and you start to look altered, it's
really hard to go back from that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So you know, I agree with you not to let
it go so much that it's like whoah.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
But not too early either. I mean, look, if you're
thirty eight you've lost three hundred pounds and your face
is droopy. Okay, that's fine, But if it's just starting
to you know, the future of plastic surgery, the very
near future is going to be non invasive skin tightening
things that we do. Right, These they're not that great yet,
but they're getting better. These radio frequency micro needling things
(40:14):
where you, you know, punch little microscopic holes and you
use growth factors in your own blood, you know, and
you deliver energy transmission devices. I mean, I went to
med school. I graduated med school in eighty six, right,
that was twenty four now it was fourteen plus twenty. Yeah,
that was forty one years ago. All right. If you
(40:34):
would have told me when I graduated med school that
in twoenty twenty six you're going to be using a scalpel,
a scissors and lifting and pulling back. In fact, you're
going to even go deeper than you've ever done before
and cutting it off and stitchy, I always said, no, way,
forty one years from now, we'll be using lasers and energy.
(40:55):
It'll be you know, Star Trek, and we're still doing
scalpels and scissors and sutures. It's weird. Isn't it. We
need to get it to the point where we stop
with the cutting and the bleeding and the complications and
go and get this collagen and the elastin to tighten up.
And it's now about no.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
No, don't say that. Heather would be very mad. You
wouldn't have a job. Well, you have to make the
big books.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Well I've I've sort of, you know, done pretty well already.
I don't need it. I do. I do surgery because
I love it. I do surgery because I've acquired specialized
skills at revisional surgery that very people have. I can
fix complications that you know, plast surgeon may see once
in their career. I see them every week. So I
enjoy it. I don't really do it for that reason anymore.
(41:43):
I could certainly stop right now. And I do a
lot of other things too. I have a skincare line,
I'm a medical legal expert. I do eb you know,
I don't really need to operate, you know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I was making a joke. I love, by the way,
botched like huge fan I used to.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
I just remember when I first started watching it, I'd
be like, oh my god, this is what people say
is wrong with me, My nose is watched. But then
I started to honestly fall in love with your passion
and how you change people's lives, and I see it
right now.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's like me when I talk about food.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
I'm a foodie, Like you're talking about what you do
and I could see how you love it.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, I'm very, very I've been very lucky in my life.
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