December 2, 2021 • 43 mins
Rookie of the year contender Emanuel Neagu comes on the podcast to talk to Tori and Aneesa about the mission and elimination from this week that sent him airborne, the upcoming "Night of Eliminations" and... his plumbing business.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, guys. I'm Tori and I'm Anissa, and this
is MTV's official Challenge podcast where we go behind the
scenes of the Challenge spies, lies, and allies. This episode,
we are joined by one of we could say the
best rookies this season, the Vampire himself, and men will Nag. Yes,
I can't wait to talk to my boys. Let the
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plumber come to us and tell us what he's been plumbing.
Oh no, no, he better not. Don't tell us. All right,
let's get started. Okay, Tori, I did it last week.
Now it's your turn. It's time for the time Bomb.
(00:47):
It's season thirty seven, so you get thirty seven seconds
to recap the episode. Okay, I don't know if you're ready.
Rubbing your head that means you're ready. Okay, cool, three seconds,
three two one, All right. It's getting really dead in
the house. You can tell by every conversation that's going
on right now. Me and a man, we're getting really close.
Were like bataboom bad being bata bag You don't know
(01:08):
what that means, but we do, and we'll tell you
later in the episodes. That's right, you start thinking see
things crumbling and as soon as we get to the challenge,
we get really nervous because it's heights over water again.
Nobody really likes that. You know who really doesn't like that? Me?
But let's not talk about it. Let's get into it. CT.
He slays it, he kills it. Kyle falls in the water,
and he falls in the water, but CT hold it up,
gets some first team Ruby goes up. Oh, we shipped
the bed. Not only that, we fell. I fell on
(01:29):
my head and it got a black eye from it.
I'll tell you later. Also, it's Emeral's time to go up,
and I'm taking that ball and I'm slamming it. I'm
slamming it. I'm put it in a man. Well who
I finally got to put it in him. It felt right.
Oh oh, I was really channeling that one you. I mean,
for all the listeners out there, Tori was actually doing
(01:50):
a rhythmic version of what she was saying. So if
you could hear her and you started to dance along
with it, she herself was doing that. Yeah, I was.
I appreciate you just did the dirtiest dat of the day.
I put it in whoo whoa. Okay, sorry, let's keep going.
So let's talk about the play of the day best.
(02:13):
It's no brainer. I mean, he was like Peter Pan.
I'm convinced he was like tinker Bell. I don't know
who he is. I'm convinced he's not from this lifetime.
I'm convinced ct he was a ballerina. He was an athletic.
He was a ballerina. Yeah. Slash football player, Slash Basque
is actually a really good basketball player. Slash He's just
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not of this world. Slash Tranno source Rex throwing it
out there Slash puzzle source Rex. Puzzle source Rex. He
is unstoppable, unbeatable, And if you would have seen the
look in his eye that day, you would have been
afraid to make eye contact with him because he was
look he would look like he was burning through your soul.
He knew it was probably knows what to do with
those baby blues. Yeah, he knew it was the last
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most likely, Like we still don't know, but we have
an idea, like it's getting close to the and it
could be the last mission. He had a very clear
idea of that. He knew if he lost, it wasn't
going to be good. He went on the bus, drank
his green machetti, some organic stuff that like he uses
his power, some vitamins and the guy just locks in.
He's incredible. He's always been like that, especially over water.
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He's just like something different. Yeah, like the ground, like
the floors lava, it's really lava to him. It would
be different if he wasn't so big. It's like but massive. Yeah,
he's and even though he's toned and small, smaller than
he asked, Like, No, he's a big dude. He's always
been a muscular, bigger guy. Yeah, And it's just crazy
(03:42):
how he moves his body. It's insane. He's incredible. What
do you think the dirtiest deed was or the best
political move? I mean, I know, and thenwell ended up
being in elimination, but he literally said nothing, I know
during deliberation. His politics are insane. Yeah. Do you think
he's with me for political reasons? I mean I think
(04:05):
that he actually really likes you because he's a little
love bird. And we used to talk about how he
likes to fall in love. Yeah, he does. He does well,
he does. It's not that he let he's just it
happens to him. He's like a fall for people. And
I want to be fair, and I think if he
didn't like you, he wouldn't have been with you. Yeah, no,
you're so right. Well, I'm excited we're going to have
him on later in this episode. But before we have
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him on, I think we need to talk about a
few things that happened in that challenge, because Anissa, it
was hilarious. First of all, this challenge was lowered. Usually
our challenges abobwater or forty five feet abubwater or something
like that, this one was brought down to like twenty
five because really because of the ladder, it was so
difficult to climb back up. So they're making fun of Amanda.
(04:47):
I get it, like it's funny to make jokes, but
it was actually really hard to climb up for anybody
by the time you get out there. We had a
challenge where we had to literally climb up a ladder
like that and then transfer sides and come back down. Yeah. Ouch,
and I would fall off the ladder. I mean it
was the hard because it was on a teeter totter
like this. Yeah, it was the hard. Note the board
up top. You had to climb on it and transfer,
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but it was like this with your rate, so you
had to go up at the same time. On both
sides of the ladder, they give you the jankiest ladders. Yeah,
they're the worst ladders on purpose. This ladder had no
stability whatsoever. You could see it. Yeah, except for this
ladder wasn't supposed to be a part of the game
and ended up being one of the most challenging parts.
It was very painful, and that is why I think
it ultimately came down to CT winning with the time.
(05:32):
I'm sorry Sapphire in total, but because CT did so
many run acrosses while his team was in the water,
and it took them so long to get back up
and he didn't get knocked down. The time that he
was able to get seven capsules was much quicker because
everybody on Emerald who was getting them was falling in
coming back up, and it took a lot longer for
them to achieve. Yeah. I didn't even realize at first
(05:52):
that you guys had a ladder. I thought once you
got hit, you were out of the game. No, you
had to climb back up. Well, or you could have
just been like Amanda and stayed down there. I think
she stayed down there the entire time. But it was
also part of the Emerald strategy for the record, they
were like they realized that, they realized what we were doing.
We were waiting for all of them to cross. Once
they had the capsules. We were then throwing the bags
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at them and knocking them off with a capsule. If
we knocked them off without a capsule, that capsule still
in play. So we needed them to get the capsule.
So that's why we were letting them go. But it
was really difficult to not let Amanda, Like I had
the opportunity to hit her that one time. I'm like,
I got it, I gotta do it. You know. We
love the ones where you get to like sabotage people. Yeah,
it was so funny. But it is a good strategy
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to have when Amanda did fall because the last people
that are going is kind of a little bit beneficial
because they could move a little. If you get your
best people, yeah right, they can just go back and
forth versus waiting for people like when Nelly was like
moving back and like lying down and doing all of
that opposed like C two was on his feet the
whole time. Nelson was like doing the matrix out there.
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I mean, oh, I know, I saw I saw it
was amazing, Like, I'm so surprised. The problem was, once
you had a capsule, you had both hands to manage
to get down right, Once you had a capsule, you
only have one hand to kind of like do that
you're nervous, a capsule's gonna get flung out of your hand,
which is what happened to me. One of the capsule
literally got knocked out by a bag. I didn't even fall,
so it's very hard to maneuver with the capsule. It was.
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You couldn't have put it in your shorts if you
if you would have fallen, you would have fallen on it. Oh,
when you're in your plue squan. Yeah, you don't want that,
am I what in your coach? My plue squan? It's
actually it's actually conjugation in Spanish, which it's called the
plus squan perfecto. We could just edit that out. I
don't want to, I'm interested, but we can move on.
(07:44):
Moving on from plusquanni, let's talk about let's talk about
how Logan is obviously pissed. He's on Ruby now, but
he was crushing it when he was with Sapphire, and
then Sapphire inevitably voted him into elimination, Like, how do
you think you would have felt if that would have
been you. I mean, it's part of the game. I
think that he's a really good competitor. I think that
(08:05):
endurance wise, running wise, like probably one of the best
runners there. Yeah, good at puzzles. I mean, if this
is the time to get ye, then this is the
time to do it. I agree. I feel like if
tables were turned, he would have voted CTN. I agree. Yeah,
I think he knew. I know a lot of other
people don't have the balls to do that, but Logan does.
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Logan doesn't give a shit. Yeah, but I love that
he's loyal because I told him before I left him,
like Devin Tory, like riding too the Sunset, win this
fucking money. Devin really had his back this game. I
know he did. And I think Logan's a straight up
guy and I'm happy about that. I was just sad
to see him go on something like that because I
(08:45):
feel like he could have gone all night too. Yeah,
it's hamstring, for sure. It definitely wasn't in the best spot,
but you know what, you know who could have definitely
gone all night? The guy that we're about to have
on this episode and man, well we actually know he
can go all night. Okay, all right. I love when
you get nervous. It's the craziest thing because you will
literally talked about Tampon's last last podcast. Yeah, the minute
(09:09):
I mentioned a guy, let's take a break. Let me
get some water and go put on some makeup because
I want to look cute for when a man Well
it comes on the podcast, So stay TV guys. All right, guys,
welcome back to our favorite part of the podcast. This
(09:29):
is where we get to introduce somebody extra special, and
today we are introducing the one and only Vampire, the
other half of the plumbing crew. A mare, well, mago,
maybe what's that? I forgot my plumber? Hey, how's it been? However,
how's it going? How's the plumbing business come going? Great?
(09:51):
See sees that aired. I got a lot of you
request Oh have you well? Yeah, let me hind out.
It's so great to have you on the show. It's
like amazing having you on this season. You snuck up
and became one of the most savage rookies, Like I
mean you kind of always were. You started off high. Yeah,
you got Casey first. You were the first person to
(10:13):
your teammate in the very beginning. Now you're all bad
push up situation. Yeah, like you're a You're a natural
at this game. So how have you been and what
is it like watching the episodes back this season for you? Well,
thank you so much and I'm happy to be you guys.
You two are amazing and I love you both. Yeah,
(10:38):
I don't know what you're saying. Did you say I'm
one of the most savage. Yeah, you're really good at this.
I mean from crawling in the mud on my last
the last challenge that I did. Watching it back, you
were amazing at that, Like you really you put on
a weighted vest and and dingle berries. I don't know
what they were those balls and how we weighted whatever
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and crawled up the crawled up. You are a different
I mean, anyone who could do Survivor for months? Yeah,
not American Survivor of thirty nine days months. Yeah, I
mean yeah, when you when you come from nothing you
can see any blueberries, Yeah, when you come from only brewberries.
But yeah, it's just just having fun, you know what.
(11:24):
I think. Like we have the opportunity of getting to
know you so and definitely because we've all had conversations
with you personally and like really gotten to know you,
and I think that like your story does you've really
got okay okay, okay, okay, okay, but your story does
get highlighted on the show, but I feel like it's
so much deeper and bigger than like what is really
(11:45):
out there. So would you mind just like telling us
more about yourself, where you came from, the shows you've
been on before, and what brought you to the challenge. Yeah,
I don't. I don't really want to put my story
out there to be like, Okay, so this is how
I leave, or this is how I used to leave,
or this is what I fight for. I'm giving to people,
(12:05):
like some reasons why I do everything I do. But
I don't want to make this. I'm this and I'm
crying and oh my god, my wife is like this.
I don't want to do that. Yeah, everyone is going
through a lot of shit. Everyone has their problems. I
don't think it's them. Is there a lot to unfold
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from my life? But I'm coming from Romania, from a
poor village, and I grew up really happy that everything,
and you came into this challenge knowing somebody else. You
came from Romania, you came in knowing Emmy And she
had an incredible game this season too. What was it
like to watch her play this game and how was
(12:49):
it playing with her? Yeah, we only met like half
a year before the Challenge on our Survivor season. We
kind of knew each other because we worked in this industry,
but never really talked to each other, but then we
kind of got close on Survivor and then watching her
on the Challenge, it was fun. It was fun because
(13:12):
I knew that this is how she's going to be,
Like she's gonna be dramatic, crying, and it was really
helpful because I had her there and some of my
strategies were based on her intel, Like she would come
and tell me what she's talking about the people I
(13:33):
was we we ben't hiding that. You weren't hiding that. Yeah,
but we had some moments when I played it as as, yeah,
I don't want to talk to himy too much. You know,
she's this and that, but this was just too you know, oh,
throw us off. I'm giving a little bit because I
was like I put her into elimination. He was like,
you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm like, I
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want him to fight a little bit more, but I
mean the very first elimination, right, and so that's what
you're talking about. Yeah, Tori has been trying to hide
that we're friends. We're not working out very well. Oh
yeah I did try. Well that's because the first time
people realize we were friends, they were like, yeah, throw
them into elimination against each other. I didn't like the
way that ended up, so yeah, fuck it. Yeah, I
think she'd be I think that we were friends too
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when I had to go into elimination. Who emmy know
you excuse me yourself? She was, she was, she was
fucking cheering for you in her heart. Yeah you didn't
hear my heart sens your heart was with me down there?
Yeah I heard it. I love it. Do you guys
just want a couple of moments to talk to each
other about love? Now we talk all the time. We're
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good and easily. I want to be a part of it.
Let's get you in the combo. All right. Well, i'd
like to know do you think Survivor got ready for
this challenge? Yes? It got me into making strategies with
people that think different than me. It got me kind
of breathing other people strategies and yeah, I was gonna
(15:03):
say about the missions, but I've always been athletic. But yes,
and also a survivor got me on the show. Yeah, true.
Did you ever watch a challenge before you got on it?
Because it seems like you came into it pretty prepared made.
When I got a cold, I did watch a lot,
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but before that, I only saw some YouTube videos with
eliminations and all that kind of stuff. Just like, so
you watched us, Yeah, I knew you guys. I knew
who you guys are. So when I told you when
I got a cold, I did my research, so really
(15:44):
invested myself into Emmy came into the game, like knowing
that she wanted to work with Uncle CT. Did you
come into the game knowing who you wanted to work with? Yes,
you you're a fucking liar. He wanted to work with you,
but like not, no, he wanted to come on. My
(16:06):
plan was to work with with Casey because yeah, obviously
she's a strong competitor and also because of the alliance
she's in. That alliance paid off this season. Yeah, and
then it fell part yeah yeah, but yeah, so I
came in. I came in, yeah, knowing what I am
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going to do. I also had a nissa in you
on my list because I watched the last season The
Double Agents, and I saw which list was. That was it?
The list of people I really want to work with. Yeah,
that kind of work. We all know that list was
(16:49):
long for you. Boo. He was out there getting it. Okay, sorry,
let's keep moving forward. We'll find out. I was like,
I want to work with her. I want to work
with her every girl, I really want to work with her.
I mean, I wanted to work with you three, but
I ended up working with a lot. Yeah, we know,
it's okay, It's totally okay. We don't blame you. Yeah,
(17:12):
no to your first season. Youboy's got to do it.
Yeah yeah. Yeah. So we've heard so many horror stories
about international Survivor shows. What is the craziest thing you
ever did on Survivor Romania? Um, I don't know. Everything
was crazy, Like just like you know, you feel like
you want to pee and just roll over MP and
(17:33):
then roll back and sleep and PEC. That's interesting. This
is a horror story. I used to sleep and then
pee and then sleep. You're next to the see you
roll over, you have the cup roll back, so you
do a CP so the worst Yeah, I can't. I
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think five months doing Survivors is the most intense thing
about it. That sounds horrible. Did you hown thing was
also a thing, especially when you had to fight with bees.
I was stung by bees like probably twenty twenty five
just to get two cans of honey. Wow, they use
that as a form of therapy. Um, I didn't know
(18:15):
if you know that, but yeah, I'm allergic. Yeah, well,
don't do it then. It's definitely not for everybody. Um.
Have you ever taken an aqua dump? Do you know
what that is? Yes? So did you take? Did you
take an aqua dump? Um? I think everyone did, but
yeah I did. And you know what happened when I
was young, now that you're saying this. When I was
so young, I was with my parents at the seaside
(18:37):
and an aquat dump just came right again when my
mouth in my mouth. No, never kissing you again, you guys,
I'm never kissing you again. We're never kissing you again. Well,
I gotta call Amanda. Yeah we did forget that. That
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was your first crush on the show. Was Amanda. Do
you feel different about that now? Yeah? It was, I
mean before I met her. Yeah, I don't even remember.
It wasn't a thing. Wait, who's Amanda. Tor's gone silent,
Torre's gone dead silent. We'll let you clean that up.
We'll let you clean that up later. Listen, I need
to move. Let's get to the episode. You guys are
(19:23):
laying in the grass. You're wearing my favorite color, purple.
What what was the season like having Tori there? I was,
you know what was interesting because I used to get
a lot of messages saying, don't trust Tory, everyone wants
her to win. Ammy was going crazy even before we
got in the house, talking about Tori that she can
(19:44):
trust her and all of that. And then when we
stepped in the house and we got the files and
we looked at Tori and Amy was like, wow, no,
don't beat her. And I was like, I'm gonna beat her.
And then she was like going, like nobody wanted like
to mess with Tori because of how social media was acting. Yeah,
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and you can tell because all the girls at the
beginning had a problem with that. But she was a
strong competitor Tory. And then when she partner up with Ed.
This is where to me, it was like, okay, I'm
I felt like I was the strongest team. I was
on the strongest team with Casey. But then when Ed
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came and then he partnered up with Tori, I I
actually never thought about Tori in the way I'm thinking
about her now. So at that point, I just wanted
to split them and do something like, right, guys, you
need to stay away from each other because you guys
are a strong one. And I knew Tori was with
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Devin and everyone that's against who I was with. Right,
But that was in the beginning of the game, and
then it goes into Emerald City of Dreams, so like
it was a huge merge. It was like Casey, Nanny
you Josh me, Devin, Like, it was like a huge merge.
It is mass unexpectable, unexpected. Yeah, but then we got
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that's when we really got super close. Yeah. I think
the plumbing, when you guys were plumbers, I think that
was the closest you've ever been. Yeah, So, answering your question,
how was having toried there At the beginning, it was
just like a normal game. But then when you know,
when the toilets start start breaking, and to be honest,
(21:33):
the GOP maybe a little harder because you start, you know,
investing sometimes some emotions with someone in that house and
you're more open and your head is in the game. Yeah,
but also somewhere else. Also at the same time, it's
like when you're stuck in the house that long, if
(21:55):
you do find somebody that you connect with, it does
ease the experience because there's a lot of time is
wating around and sitting. So it's like, you know how
it goes like you get towards the end and you're like, well,
there's you can you can feel it. In each episode
it starts to feel like quiet. There's only like minimal
conversations going on. And those are the moments that we
were like, all right, I'm gonna walk around the house,
I'm gonna play chess for the fiftieth time. Pool, Am
(22:17):
I gonna swim? Am I gonna do sauna? Am I
gonna shit? Like? What am I gonna do? And who
am I? Who am I gonna share these moments with you?
Who am I gonna do it with? Am I gonna
do it exactly? Yeah? So who am I gonna roll
over and pee with? Yeah. Yeah, but let's get into
the challenge, because the challenge was fucking hilarious. It was
called dead drop, and that's what you did. You dropped tour.
(22:38):
We both did. I know, well, ro I rot to,
I love it. You gotta do what you gotta do.
I when I was watching, I was definitely nervous, Like,
how did you feel? Because I feel like you're really agile,
you're quick on your feet, and then Tory comes and
hits you with a sandbag. I know, right, I actually
(23:01):
fell just so I make her feel good. No, No,
I'm kidding. M My problem is that, like the first
three or two tries, I just wanted to get there
quick and it didn't happen. I didn't I wasn't calm enough,
and it didn't happen. It was harder to get back
(23:23):
on the platform than to run across it and come back,
so you're wasting a lot of time if you're falling down.
The ladder was so hot and so hard to climb it. Yeah,
it was basically a rope. Yeah. So, I mean the person,
the single handed person who killed this was obviously CT dominating.
So good. I mean we were up there trying to
(23:46):
knock him off. It wasn't out. It was IMPOSSI every ing. Yeah,
he was heavier than all those bowls. So if you
hit him those bowls, he's not gonna move. He's heavier
than them. And then he would throw them back and
you would be terrified. You'd like, I don't want to ball. Wait,
I have a question. Did anybody fall in from from
(24:06):
the other side? No, m I was nervous about that.
I was like, are they harnessed in or stapled in?
How you know that that could have easily happened. Oh? Yeah,
Well we were scared and they said if you fall in,
you have to stay off. I think for the entire
game there was a rule like that. So we were
just like, all right, don't fall in, you know, but
(24:26):
it was a lot wider on that side of the platform. Yes, So,
and then, well, what's one thing you think you've learned
from a vet like ct or Tory that you would
take into another season of the Challenge if you are
asked to come back. Oh that was a good question. Um.
I don't try to think. I always think about myself
(24:47):
that I don't need anything from anyone else. I don't
need to take any there really else I think you
played a really good game, and I don't think that
you exposed yourself enough to even for anyone to be like, well,
he's a lie, or he's this, or he's that. I mean,
you know what, I'm so under the radar. It worked
out perfectly for you. I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna
(25:08):
be honest now. A lot of strategies and a lot
of stuff that I did in the house they didn't
even make air because on my Survivor I used to
do a lot of strategies off camera because people at
home would think I'm a snake, I'm a liar, and
(25:29):
you needed audience votes on Survivors. So that's why I
was more used to be really sneaky. So I've done
a lot of those, and that's why, you know, it's
not much to show about what why am I still
in the game? Tory, we need to go on Survivor. Well,
I'm more interested right now. And how he's saying like
(25:50):
he had a lot of strategies that he like purposefully
didn't want to be caught on camera. And I wonder, like,
now that you're on a different show where audience votes
don't affect it, and you can see that, Like, you're
not necessarily like acknowledged as a strategist because no one
can really see your strategy. Do you almost regret not
having a lot of those conversations on camera? No, No,
(26:12):
I don't regret that, and I don't want to talk
too much yet because you know, I don't know who's
gonna listen to. I mean, people don't know what you said,
so it's totally fine. I think it's absolutely brilliant. I mean,
you weren't an asshole to anybody, You're likable, you have
a lot of things about your personality. I think that
makes people not really bottom line, like, you're really good athletically,
(26:37):
so I don't even know. You wouldn't even need to
talk period, we just need to perform. Thanks. I had
some of those moments. Yeah, Well, you know what I
want to know. I want to know what happened in
deliberation because I didn't say anything, still didn't. Yeah, so
like what was the behind the scenes strategy there, because
obviously something must have been said. Well, obviously Emmy wasn't
(26:59):
going to vote for me, right, she was going to
vote for Logan right, and Kyle wasn't going to vote
for me. Because I'm gonna vot for Logan because I
was closer to Kyle than Logan was to Tie. Yeah's true. Look, yeah,
um yeah, we shared this. I mean I was with
Logan too. We shared the same room, We talked a lot.
(27:21):
I used to talk strategies with Kyle more than some
other players that I was close to. So it was
a little bit more trust between me and Kyle than
Logan and Kyle. So at that point, what city was
voting wasn't It wasn't a problem being friendly and helping
(27:42):
people when I get a chance, helped me in the end.
How did you feel when like, did you expect that
Logan was going to call you down? I did. How
did you feel when he did? I did expect him
to call me because I knew he was. He had
to deal with Logan. They were very close. I was
(28:03):
very close with Logan too. He would never call me
in the layer, but he made the deal with Devin,
and he cared more about that deal than the game actually,
because you know, he kind of pulled a ed move
because he could have stayed in the game. He could
(28:25):
have stayed in the game. Yeah, because he could have
called out Devin had he not made a promise, And
I mean, I love Devon, but there's a good chance
that he wasn't going to beat Logan and that. Yeah,
like you two were the probably the best people in
the entire house to compete in that, not even the
people left in the game in the game overall, Like
I don't know who would be either one of you guys. Yeah,
that elimination like was almost tailor made for you. So
(28:48):
how confident were you going into it? I was very confident.
I knew. I think Logan thought we were going to
do a puzzle, and that felted him not pick Devin
because you couldn't really see what's in there. You see
like a little screen and some numbers, and probably that
that top his decision. And I was very confident, very confident.
(29:13):
I knew I just have to run and jump. I
saw that, And you didn't even jump, you like floated
above it. Yeah, right, Like I remember, I had better shots,
to be honest, like I was doing waves and stuff
like that, but I was in my element. Cool bro,
you were, Yeah, you were just jumping over. Do you
(29:34):
feel like that would be your ideal elimination or if not,
what do you feel like would be your ideal elimination.
Um maybe yeah, that could be an ideal elimination something
like speed, like, um, anything with speed, climbing, jumping, Um,
I don't know. I think everything a part of a
(29:54):
poll brow and a pole wrestle. Yeah, just depending on
who I'm going against. If I'm going against someone, you
could weasel your way out of a pole rustle, I
think yeah, yeah, I think it'd be really really agile
that you could get somebody in some weird positions. I
got a really lone arms who whoa we well speaking,
(30:17):
if I'm going against CT on the puzzle, that that
would be a problem or Devin CT is a problem
in everything. He beat me twice on a puzzle in
this game on the missions, like I was close to
beat him. But yeah, he's a monster. Yeah. I have
a question, Um, how did you train for this season?
(30:39):
And I really want to know the truth, Like I
want to know all the weird shit you did because
I watched it. Yeah. So I used to climb blocks
without hardness, just like go on buildings here in Blue
Charis and just like climb Now I'm kidding, how fuck you?
I forget No, I'm gonna tell you one thing about
(31:03):
this man. You literally ate so many blueberries and told
me back in my village we were too poorter for blueberries,
and I felt so fucking bad for you, and I
was every time I'd find blueberries, I'd be like, oh
my god, Emmanuel needs these, and you were like, I'm
just kidding. I felt I wanted to buy him every
blueberry that that mother Earth has. You know, it's funny.
(31:28):
It's funny when you meet new people they can't believe
anything you say. So that's why I'm kind of doing that.
But yeah, talking about you, right, Um, Yeah, I trained, Um,
I did specially like CrossFit endurance stuff. That's that's that
(31:48):
was the main training that I had before coming into
the house. I used to do parkour, I'm doing dancing
and um, I have really good corbination with between my
my limbs, my body, Like I know every single muscle
in my body and I know how to move it. Yeah. Sorry,
(32:14):
you're leaving the door open for me. I have to
take every time. God. Well, you know what, speaking of
muscles and strength, let's talk about the female elimination queen
of this season. Any how proud of you? Wait? What? How?
Proud of proud of you. Oh there it is, how
proud of you were for her for winning all that
(32:38):
I am. I'm I'm still telling her, man, you're just
something else. She she would never think she could do that.
I would never think that she could pull that off.
And I'm so proud of her. And she's like, she's
I can see her. She's so happy. She's doing so
great now. And this this season I think help her
(33:01):
build her trusts, her confidence a little bit more because
she really understood that. Man. Yeah, it was really nice
watching her grow. Yeah. So TJ tells us tonight on
this episode, it's a night of eliminations. You just did
an elimination. What do you think this means? Um? At
(33:25):
this point, Um, I feel confident. I just want an
elimination and I feel like PJ wants me to go home.
That's how I feel, really, Yeah, because I'm the only rookie. No,
That's how I feel in my heart. But it's not
(33:46):
just DJ. It if everyone No, But I think TJ,
of all people, knows what it's like. Like he's watched
all of us in our Yeah. I think he was
actually no, he never watched me in my rookie season,
but he's watched all of you, and I think he's
like a proud papa when people do really well. So
I don't think he would when he sees an athlete
(34:07):
like you as somebody who you know. No, I think
I think I did all this other stuff. I think
we've been talking too much about what's gonna happen. We've
been talking about purges, We've been talking about a lot
of shit. And then he was like, you know what, guys,
you're here, Let's get some more people say at home. Yeah,
it was the worst night ever. It honestly made me
(34:28):
feel like I was in the Hunger Games. I was like, what, Like,
we were so close and it's like two more people
are definitely going home. And they didn't specify guys, girls, Like,
he didn't say shit, yeah, so we don't know what
we don't know. I mean, you guys may know what's
going on. I don't. Wasn't there really glad? I wasn't.
Sounds like an awful night. Yea, it's like my worst nightmares,
(34:51):
the night of eliminations. But you're already Yeah, you just
won one. You are on a high right now, friends
are going, You're ready to go. Um, do you think
you'll have to compete again. I mean, there aren't a
lot of guys. We don't know if like if Emerald's
gonna have to Like, yeah, it does. It's not fair.
(35:12):
It doesn't seem fair to me that it's a night
of eliminations and Kyle ct and m Me are safe.
You just gotta wait and see. You just gotta wait
and see. Let's not even talk about it, because I'm
telling you you're gonna be like, holy shit, it's insane. Yeah,
I don't know what to expect, but I'm really yeah,
it's really excited to watch it and it sounds insane. Yeah, Well,
(35:38):
beep AK eight and then well this is our final
that's our final question. So we asked this to everybody
on the podcast. This season is called Spies, Lies and Allies.
Who know? Stop, you know who the biggest spy is? No,
then let me ask the question. I know, but I
hope that who who is is the big at spy,
(36:01):
the biggest liar, and the biggest ally from this episode specifically,
Oh my god, I think the biggest ally would be
Logan for picking you but oh just yeah, yeah, for
(36:23):
the Devin situation that towards me. Yeah, right, then a liar?
Who will be a liar? Mm hm oh what do
you guys think who was the liar in this episode?
(36:44):
I don't know if honestly there wasn't a liar, but
somebody who I think was God, I don't know. I
don't think that there really was. But CT was like
in the chamber acting like he wanted everybody to kind
of like sell themselves, and he knew what they already
knew what they were doing. So yeah, yeah, I could
see that, not that it was strategy, but they knew
(37:06):
what they were doing, and so he was like, really,
maybe you to I'm a liar? I mean for what sense?
So listen, guys, this isn't the time to work this out.
We could do this after hours in a different space
and then not back it up. So why do you
think I'm the liar? Well, you tell me I'm playing
(37:27):
with you, and then you're shouting for logan? She said,
she shadowed with her heart. What else do you want? Yeah?
He like, what do you want from me? What do
you want from me? What do you want from me?
She snuggled you. She made air pizza with the blanket.
She's done so much stuff, She's plumped. She's plumped, she's
been a plumber with you. Gee, guys, I'm kidding guys. Yeah,
(37:52):
I know, I'm gonna call T the liar and then
the spy. Yeah yeah, I'm always going to be you
are and you are sneaky sneak. Yeah. No, no, don't
put this on the podcast. Don't let anyone you know what. Actually,
I'm gonna put this on my patroon. So if you
guys want to listen to this, go ahead, plug yourself.
(38:15):
You're gonna you're gonna upload this podcast on your Patreon. Okay. Yeah.
If you guys want to hear this, go to my
subscribe to my only fans Okay, cool, Yes, we can't
wait to hear it through your pictures. All right? Well,
speaking of videos, speaking of places to find you, where
can the listeners find you? How can we support you?
And what else? How can I glug off of the
(38:37):
only fan? I'll give you a seven days trial? Yes, um,
all right, guys, you can find me on ig at
Immanuel dot n e agu that is me, and then
from there you can find everything else linking bio Yeah,
(39:01):
Abraham Lincoln bio over there. All right? Cool? Awesome? Well,
thank you so much for coming on the show. We
absolutely you're an incredible athlete. You're an incredible contender, and
I can't wait to see what happens next week because
you're on month. Very nice. You're a nice guy. Yeah.
You two girls, and I love you so much. Tori,
(39:26):
it was wonderful to talk to your fellow plumber. Oh
my god. UM, I'm really excited to see where this
business goes. Thank you. Um. If it's going to become
an international business, I think it may may even go
to Amsterdam. We don't know yet, but um, it's also awesome, amazing, awesome, amazing.
(39:48):
Jesus Christ, it's awesome, amazing, It's awesome, amazing to talk
to Emmanuell. I adore him. He has always been Um,
I've always liked him from day one. So I am
happy that we got to talk to him and he
got to tell us like a couple tips and tricks. Yeah,
I are Victoria's playbook. Yeah, I love the tip for
(40:10):
the play. Okay, let's talk about the play. Let's talk
about Challenge Confidential. I want to know some shit from
this episode, some things from this episode that US viewers
at home don't know and would like to know. Okay,
I want to be very clear. It might have looked
(40:32):
very funny up there when everybody was getting hit with
those bags, but a lot of people ended up kind
of injured from that. I fell on one of the
capsules and got a black eye, and you can't really
see it because I do my makeup so well. No, like,
not well in general, well in general. But I covered
it up well. Okay, he looks amazing. Thanks. I covered
(40:52):
it up really well. But I had a freaking black eye.
It was like right in the crease of my eyelid,
so I made it look like dark eyeshadow. It was
very easy for a girl. Oh that's not too bad.
But if you look like a full black eye, no,
but if you look close enough, there are other people
with black eyes. And somebody, and I can't say who,
even chipped their tooth. Listen, it's not a challenge if
someone's not getting hurt. Yeah, it's probably true. It was
(41:14):
painful that one. We were like, and not only are
you following falling in water once? Like you fell in
over and over and over again, and it was painful.
But you have to try it. You gotta risk it
for the biscuit. Baby, and you didn't get any biscuit
any but I I risked it. Yes, you did risk
you did risk it. Yeah, thank you. I tried. But listen,
(41:35):
it was a great episode. Next episode is probably gonna
be my favorite. I mean, just because it's so intense.
It was the one now now shit's eating up. Yeah,
it was the worst part of the season to be
a part of. But because you know, obviously it was
very scary, but I love the intensity, I love the
change up. So now that I'm not in it anymore,
and I'm excited to see what happened. So Anissa, do
(41:57):
us a favor. Plug your socials and let us know
where we can ask you questions about this week or
upcoming needs to the challenge. My only fans is teaser
um Now, Instagram, Anisa, MTV. That's a n e s
a MTV semier listener questions, thoughts, comments, whatever, I'm here, Tori,
(42:22):
Where can they find you? You can find me in
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(42:42):
Challenge and you listen every Thursday as we go behind
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then join us Fridays as we pull back the curtain
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MTV's Official Challenge Podcast.
What's up, guys. I'm Tori and I'm Anissa, and this
is MTV's official Challenge podcast where we go behind the
scenes of the Challenge spies, lies, and allies. This episode,
we are joined by one of we could say the
best rookies this season, the Vampire himself, and men will Nag. Yes,
I can't wait to talk to my boys. Let the
(00:23):
plumber come to us and tell us what he's been plumbing.
Oh no, no, he better not. Don't tell us. All right,
let's get started. Okay, Tori, I did it last week.
Now it's your turn. It's time for the time Bomb.
(00:47):
It's season thirty seven, so you get thirty seven seconds
to recap the episode. Okay, I don't know if you're ready.
Rubbing your head that means you're ready. Okay, cool, three seconds,
three two one, All right. It's getting really dead in
the house. You can tell by every conversation that's going
on right now. Me and a man, we're getting really close.
Were like bataboom bad being bata bag You don't know
(01:08):
what that means, but we do, and we'll tell you
later in the episodes. That's right, you start thinking see
things crumbling and as soon as we get to the challenge,
we get really nervous because it's heights over water again.
Nobody really likes that. You know who really doesn't like that? Me?
But let's not talk about it. Let's get into it. CT.
He slays it, he kills it. Kyle falls in the water,
and he falls in the water, but CT hold it up,
gets some first team Ruby goes up. Oh, we shipped
the bed. Not only that, we fell. I fell on
(01:29):
my head and it got a black eye from it.
I'll tell you later. Also, it's Emeral's time to go up,
and I'm taking that ball and I'm slamming it. I'm
slamming it. I'm put it in a man. Well who
I finally got to put it in him. It felt right.
Oh oh, I was really channeling that one you. I mean,
for all the listeners out there, Tori was actually doing
(01:50):
a rhythmic version of what she was saying. So if
you could hear her and you started to dance along
with it, she herself was doing that. Yeah, I was.
I appreciate you just did the dirtiest dat of the day.
I put it in whoo whoa. Okay, sorry, let's keep going.
So let's talk about the play of the day best.
(02:13):
It's no brainer. I mean, he was like Peter Pan.
I'm convinced he was like tinker Bell. I don't know
who he is. I'm convinced he's not from this lifetime.
I'm convinced ct he was a ballerina. He was an athletic.
He was a ballerina. Yeah. Slash football player, Slash Basque
is actually a really good basketball player. Slash He's just
(02:34):
not of this world. Slash Tranno source Rex throwing it
out there Slash puzzle source Rex. Puzzle source Rex. He
is unstoppable, unbeatable, And if you would have seen the
look in his eye that day, you would have been
afraid to make eye contact with him because he was
look he would look like he was burning through your soul.
He knew it was probably knows what to do with
those baby blues. Yeah, he knew it was the last
(02:56):
most likely, Like we still don't know, but we have
an idea, like it's getting close to the and it
could be the last mission. He had a very clear
idea of that. He knew if he lost, it wasn't
going to be good. He went on the bus, drank
his green machetti, some organic stuff that like he uses
his power, some vitamins and the guy just locks in.
He's incredible. He's always been like that, especially over water.
(03:17):
He's just like something different. Yeah, like the ground, like
the floors lava, it's really lava to him. It would
be different if he wasn't so big. It's like but massive. Yeah,
he's and even though he's toned and small, smaller than
he asked, Like, No, he's a big dude. He's always
been a muscular, bigger guy. Yeah, And it's just crazy
(03:42):
how he moves his body. It's insane. He's incredible. What
do you think the dirtiest deed was or the best
political move? I mean, I know, and thenwell ended up
being in elimination, but he literally said nothing, I know
during deliberation. His politics are insane. Yeah. Do you think
he's with me for political reasons? I mean I think
(04:05):
that he actually really likes you because he's a little
love bird. And we used to talk about how he
likes to fall in love. Yeah, he does. He does well,
he does. It's not that he let he's just it
happens to him. He's like a fall for people. And
I want to be fair, and I think if he
didn't like you, he wouldn't have been with you. Yeah, no,
you're so right. Well, I'm excited we're going to have
him on later in this episode. But before we have
(04:26):
him on, I think we need to talk about a
few things that happened in that challenge, because Anissa, it
was hilarious. First of all, this challenge was lowered. Usually
our challenges abobwater or forty five feet abubwater or something
like that, this one was brought down to like twenty
five because really because of the ladder, it was so
difficult to climb back up. So they're making fun of Amanda.
(04:47):
I get it, like it's funny to make jokes, but
it was actually really hard to climb up for anybody
by the time you get out there. We had a
challenge where we had to literally climb up a ladder
like that and then transfer sides and come back down. Yeah. Ouch,
and I would fall off the ladder. I mean it
was the hard because it was on a teeter totter
like this. Yeah, it was the hard. Note the board
up top. You had to climb on it and transfer,
(05:10):
but it was like this with your rate, so you
had to go up at the same time. On both
sides of the ladder, they give you the jankiest ladders. Yeah,
they're the worst ladders on purpose. This ladder had no
stability whatsoever. You could see it. Yeah, except for this
ladder wasn't supposed to be a part of the game
and ended up being one of the most challenging parts.
It was very painful, and that is why I think
it ultimately came down to CT winning with the time.
(05:32):
I'm sorry Sapphire in total, but because CT did so
many run acrosses while his team was in the water,
and it took them so long to get back up
and he didn't get knocked down. The time that he
was able to get seven capsules was much quicker because
everybody on Emerald who was getting them was falling in
coming back up, and it took a lot longer for
them to achieve. Yeah. I didn't even realize at first
(05:52):
that you guys had a ladder. I thought once you
got hit, you were out of the game. No, you
had to climb back up. Well, or you could have
just been like Amanda and stayed down there. I think
she stayed down there the entire time. But it was
also part of the Emerald strategy for the record, they
were like they realized that, they realized what we were doing.
We were waiting for all of them to cross. Once
they had the capsules. We were then throwing the bags
(06:15):
at them and knocking them off with a capsule. If
we knocked them off without a capsule, that capsule still
in play. So we needed them to get the capsule.
So that's why we were letting them go. But it
was really difficult to not let Amanda, Like I had
the opportunity to hit her that one time. I'm like,
I got it, I gotta do it. You know. We
love the ones where you get to like sabotage people. Yeah,
it was so funny. But it is a good strategy
(06:37):
to have when Amanda did fall because the last people
that are going is kind of a little bit beneficial
because they could move a little. If you get your
best people, yeah right, they can just go back and
forth versus waiting for people like when Nelly was like
moving back and like lying down and doing all of
that opposed like C two was on his feet the
whole time. Nelson was like doing the matrix out there.
(06:59):
I mean, oh, I know, I saw I saw it
was amazing, Like, I'm so surprised. The problem was, once
you had a capsule, you had both hands to manage
to get down right, Once you had a capsule, you
only have one hand to kind of like do that
you're nervous, a capsule's gonna get flung out of your hand,
which is what happened to me. One of the capsule
literally got knocked out by a bag. I didn't even fall,
so it's very hard to maneuver with the capsule. It was.
(07:22):
You couldn't have put it in your shorts if you
if you would have fallen, you would have fallen on it. Oh,
when you're in your plue squan. Yeah, you don't want that,
am I what in your coach? My plue squan? It's
actually it's actually conjugation in Spanish, which it's called the
plus squan perfecto. We could just edit that out. I
don't want to, I'm interested, but we can move on.
(07:44):
Moving on from plusquanni, let's talk about let's talk about
how Logan is obviously pissed. He's on Ruby now, but
he was crushing it when he was with Sapphire, and
then Sapphire inevitably voted him into elimination, Like, how do
you think you would have felt if that would have
been you. I mean, it's part of the game. I
think that he's a really good competitor. I think that
(08:05):
endurance wise, running wise, like probably one of the best
runners there. Yeah, good at puzzles. I mean, if this
is the time to get ye, then this is the
time to do it. I agree. I feel like if
tables were turned, he would have voted CTN. I agree. Yeah,
I think he knew. I know a lot of other
people don't have the balls to do that, but Logan does.
(08:25):
Logan doesn't give a shit. Yeah, but I love that
he's loyal because I told him before I left him,
like Devin Tory, like riding too the Sunset, win this
fucking money. Devin really had his back this game. I
know he did. And I think Logan's a straight up
guy and I'm happy about that. I was just sad
to see him go on something like that because I
(08:45):
feel like he could have gone all night too. Yeah,
it's hamstring, for sure. It definitely wasn't in the best spot,
but you know what, you know who could have definitely
gone all night? The guy that we're about to have
on this episode and man, well we actually know he
can go all night. Okay, all right. I love when
you get nervous. It's the craziest thing because you will
literally talked about Tampon's last last podcast. Yeah, the minute
(09:09):
I mentioned a guy, let's take a break. Let me
get some water and go put on some makeup because
I want to look cute for when a man Well
it comes on the podcast, So stay TV guys. All right, guys,
welcome back to our favorite part of the podcast. This
(09:29):
is where we get to introduce somebody extra special, and
today we are introducing the one and only Vampire, the
other half of the plumbing crew. A mare, well, mago,
maybe what's that? I forgot my plumber? Hey, how's it been? However,
how's it going? How's the plumbing business come going? Great?
(09:51):
See sees that aired. I got a lot of you
request Oh have you well? Yeah, let me hind out.
It's so great to have you on the show. It's
like amazing having you on this season. You snuck up
and became one of the most savage rookies, Like I
mean you kind of always were. You started off high. Yeah,
you got Casey first. You were the first person to
(10:13):
your teammate in the very beginning. Now you're all bad
push up situation. Yeah, like you're a You're a natural
at this game. So how have you been and what
is it like watching the episodes back this season for you? Well,
thank you so much and I'm happy to be you guys.
You two are amazing and I love you both. Yeah,
(10:38):
I don't know what you're saying. Did you say I'm
one of the most savage. Yeah, you're really good at this.
I mean from crawling in the mud on my last
the last challenge that I did. Watching it back, you
were amazing at that, Like you really you put on
a weighted vest and and dingle berries. I don't know
what they were those balls and how we weighted whatever
(11:00):
and crawled up the crawled up. You are a different
I mean, anyone who could do Survivor for months? Yeah,
not American Survivor of thirty nine days months. Yeah, I
mean yeah, when you when you come from nothing you
can see any blueberries, Yeah, when you come from only brewberries.
But yeah, it's just just having fun, you know what.
(11:24):
I think. Like we have the opportunity of getting to
know you so and definitely because we've all had conversations
with you personally and like really gotten to know you,
and I think that like your story does you've really
got okay okay, okay, okay, okay, but your story does
get highlighted on the show, but I feel like it's
so much deeper and bigger than like what is really
(11:45):
out there. So would you mind just like telling us
more about yourself, where you came from, the shows you've
been on before, and what brought you to the challenge. Yeah,
I don't. I don't really want to put my story
out there to be like, Okay, so this is how
I leave, or this is how I used to leave,
or this is what I fight for. I'm giving to people,
(12:05):
like some reasons why I do everything I do. But
I don't want to make this. I'm this and I'm
crying and oh my god, my wife is like this.
I don't want to do that. Yeah, everyone is going
through a lot of shit. Everyone has their problems. I
don't think it's them. Is there a lot to unfold
(12:26):
from my life? But I'm coming from Romania, from a
poor village, and I grew up really happy that everything,
and you came into this challenge knowing somebody else. You
came from Romania, you came in knowing Emmy And she
had an incredible game this season too. What was it
like to watch her play this game and how was
(12:49):
it playing with her? Yeah, we only met like half
a year before the Challenge on our Survivor season. We
kind of knew each other because we worked in this industry,
but never really talked to each other, but then we
kind of got close on Survivor and then watching her
on the Challenge, it was fun. It was fun because
(13:12):
I knew that this is how she's going to be,
Like she's gonna be dramatic, crying, and it was really
helpful because I had her there and some of my
strategies were based on her intel, Like she would come
and tell me what she's talking about the people I
(13:33):
was we we ben't hiding that. You weren't hiding that. Yeah,
but we had some moments when I played it as as, yeah,
I don't want to talk to himy too much. You know,
she's this and that, but this was just too you know, oh,
throw us off. I'm giving a little bit because I
was like I put her into elimination. He was like,
you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm like, I
(13:54):
want him to fight a little bit more, but I
mean the very first elimination, right, and so that's what
you're talking about. Yeah, Tori has been trying to hide
that we're friends. We're not working out very well. Oh
yeah I did try. Well that's because the first time
people realize we were friends, they were like, yeah, throw
them into elimination against each other. I didn't like the
way that ended up, so yeah, fuck it. Yeah, I
think she'd be I think that we were friends too
(14:16):
when I had to go into elimination. Who emmy know
you excuse me yourself? She was, she was, she was
fucking cheering for you in her heart. Yeah you didn't
hear my heart sens your heart was with me down there?
Yeah I heard it. I love it. Do you guys
just want a couple of moments to talk to each
other about love? Now we talk all the time. We're
(14:39):
good and easily. I want to be a part of it.
Let's get you in the combo. All right. Well, i'd
like to know do you think Survivor got ready for
this challenge? Yes? It got me into making strategies with
people that think different than me. It got me kind
of breathing other people strategies and yeah, I was gonna
(15:03):
say about the missions, but I've always been athletic. But yes,
and also a survivor got me on the show. Yeah, true.
Did you ever watch a challenge before you got on it?
Because it seems like you came into it pretty prepared made.
When I got a cold, I did watch a lot,
(15:24):
but before that, I only saw some YouTube videos with
eliminations and all that kind of stuff. Just like, so
you watched us, Yeah, I knew you guys. I knew
who you guys are. So when I told you when
I got a cold, I did my research, so really
(15:44):
invested myself into Emmy came into the game, like knowing
that she wanted to work with Uncle CT. Did you
come into the game knowing who you wanted to work with? Yes,
you you're a fucking liar. He wanted to work with you,
but like not, no, he wanted to come on. My
(16:06):
plan was to work with with Casey because yeah, obviously
she's a strong competitor and also because of the alliance
she's in. That alliance paid off this season. Yeah, and
then it fell part yeah yeah, but yeah, so I
came in. I came in, yeah, knowing what I am
(16:27):
going to do. I also had a nissa in you
on my list because I watched the last season The
Double Agents, and I saw which list was. That was it?
The list of people I really want to work with. Yeah,
that kind of work. We all know that list was
(16:49):
long for you. Boo. He was out there getting it. Okay, sorry,
let's keep moving forward. We'll find out. I was like,
I want to work with her. I want to work
with her every girl, I really want to work with her.
I mean, I wanted to work with you three, but
I ended up working with a lot. Yeah, we know,
it's okay, It's totally okay. We don't blame you. Yeah,
(17:12):
no to your first season. Youboy's got to do it.
Yeah yeah. Yeah. So we've heard so many horror stories
about international Survivor shows. What is the craziest thing you
ever did on Survivor Romania? Um, I don't know. Everything
was crazy, Like just like you know, you feel like
you want to pee and just roll over MP and
(17:33):
then roll back and sleep and PEC. That's interesting. This
is a horror story. I used to sleep and then
pee and then sleep. You're next to the see you
roll over, you have the cup roll back, so you
do a CP so the worst Yeah, I can't. I
(17:54):
think five months doing Survivors is the most intense thing
about it. That sounds horrible. Did you hown thing was
also a thing, especially when you had to fight with bees.
I was stung by bees like probably twenty twenty five
just to get two cans of honey. Wow, they use
that as a form of therapy. Um, I didn't know
(18:15):
if you know that, but yeah, I'm allergic. Yeah, well,
don't do it then. It's definitely not for everybody. Um.
Have you ever taken an aqua dump? Do you know
what that is? Yes? So did you take? Did you
take an aqua dump? Um? I think everyone did, but
yeah I did. And you know what happened when I
was young, now that you're saying this. When I was
so young, I was with my parents at the seaside
(18:37):
and an aquat dump just came right again when my
mouth in my mouth. No, never kissing you again, you guys,
I'm never kissing you again. We're never kissing you again. Well,
I gotta call Amanda. Yeah we did forget that. That
(19:01):
was your first crush on the show. Was Amanda. Do
you feel different about that now? Yeah? It was, I
mean before I met her. Yeah, I don't even remember.
It wasn't a thing. Wait, who's Amanda. Tor's gone silent,
Torre's gone dead silent. We'll let you clean that up.
We'll let you clean that up later. Listen, I need
to move. Let's get to the episode. You guys are
(19:23):
laying in the grass. You're wearing my favorite color, purple.
What what was the season like having Tori there? I was,
you know what was interesting because I used to get
a lot of messages saying, don't trust Tory, everyone wants
her to win. Ammy was going crazy even before we
got in the house, talking about Tori that she can
(19:44):
trust her and all of that. And then when we
stepped in the house and we got the files and
we looked at Tori and Amy was like, wow, no,
don't beat her. And I was like, I'm gonna beat her.
And then she was like going, like nobody wanted like
to mess with Tori because of how social media was acting. Yeah,
(20:05):
and you can tell because all the girls at the
beginning had a problem with that. But she was a
strong competitor Tory. And then when she partner up with Ed.
This is where to me, it was like, okay, I'm
I felt like I was the strongest team. I was
on the strongest team with Casey. But then when Ed
(20:27):
came and then he partnered up with Tori, I I
actually never thought about Tori in the way I'm thinking
about her now. So at that point, I just wanted
to split them and do something like, right, guys, you
need to stay away from each other because you guys
are a strong one. And I knew Tori was with
(20:48):
Devin and everyone that's against who I was with. Right,
But that was in the beginning of the game, and
then it goes into Emerald City of Dreams, so like
it was a huge merge. It was like Casey, Nanny
you Josh me, Devin, Like, it was like a huge merge.
It is mass unexpectable, unexpected. Yeah, but then we got
(21:11):
that's when we really got super close. Yeah. I think
the plumbing, when you guys were plumbers, I think that
was the closest you've ever been. Yeah, So, answering your question,
how was having toried there At the beginning, it was
just like a normal game. But then when you know,
when the toilets start start breaking, and to be honest,
(21:33):
the GOP maybe a little harder because you start, you know,
investing sometimes some emotions with someone in that house and
you're more open and your head is in the game. Yeah,
but also somewhere else. Also at the same time, it's
like when you're stuck in the house that long, if
(21:55):
you do find somebody that you connect with, it does
ease the experience because there's a lot of time is
wating around and sitting. So it's like, you know how
it goes like you get towards the end and you're like, well,
there's you can you can feel it. In each episode
it starts to feel like quiet. There's only like minimal
conversations going on. And those are the moments that we
were like, all right, I'm gonna walk around the house,
I'm gonna play chess for the fiftieth time. Pool, Am
(22:17):
I gonna swim? Am I gonna do sauna? Am I
gonna shit? Like? What am I gonna do? And who
am I? Who am I gonna share these moments with you?
Who am I gonna do it with? Am I gonna
do it exactly? Yeah? So who am I gonna roll
over and pee with? Yeah. Yeah, but let's get into
the challenge, because the challenge was fucking hilarious. It was
called dead drop, and that's what you did. You dropped tour.
(22:38):
We both did. I know, well, ro I rot to,
I love it. You gotta do what you gotta do.
I when I was watching, I was definitely nervous, Like,
how did you feel? Because I feel like you're really agile,
you're quick on your feet, and then Tory comes and
hits you with a sandbag. I know, right, I actually
(23:01):
fell just so I make her feel good. No, No,
I'm kidding. M My problem is that, like the first
three or two tries, I just wanted to get there
quick and it didn't happen. I didn't I wasn't calm enough,
and it didn't happen. It was harder to get back
(23:23):
on the platform than to run across it and come back,
so you're wasting a lot of time if you're falling down.
The ladder was so hot and so hard to climb it. Yeah,
it was basically a rope. Yeah. So, I mean the person,
the single handed person who killed this was obviously CT dominating.
So good. I mean we were up there trying to
(23:46):
knock him off. It wasn't out. It was IMPOSSI every ing. Yeah,
he was heavier than all those bowls. So if you
hit him those bowls, he's not gonna move. He's heavier
than them. And then he would throw them back and
you would be terrified. You'd like, I don't want to ball. Wait,
I have a question. Did anybody fall in from from
(24:06):
the other side? No, m I was nervous about that.
I was like, are they harnessed in or stapled in?
How you know that that could have easily happened. Oh? Yeah,
Well we were scared and they said if you fall in,
you have to stay off. I think for the entire
game there was a rule like that. So we were
just like, all right, don't fall in, you know, but
(24:26):
it was a lot wider on that side of the platform. Yes, So,
and then, well, what's one thing you think you've learned
from a vet like ct or Tory that you would
take into another season of the Challenge if you are
asked to come back. Oh that was a good question. Um.
I don't try to think. I always think about myself
(24:47):
that I don't need anything from anyone else. I don't
need to take any there really else I think you
played a really good game, and I don't think that
you exposed yourself enough to even for anyone to be like, well,
he's a lie, or he's this, or he's that. I mean,
you know what, I'm so under the radar. It worked
out perfectly for you. I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna
(25:08):
be honest now. A lot of strategies and a lot
of stuff that I did in the house they didn't
even make air because on my Survivor I used to
do a lot of strategies off camera because people at
home would think I'm a snake, I'm a liar, and
(25:29):
you needed audience votes on Survivors. So that's why I
was more used to be really sneaky. So I've done
a lot of those, and that's why, you know, it's
not much to show about what why am I still
in the game? Tory, we need to go on Survivor. Well,
I'm more interested right now. And how he's saying like
(25:50):
he had a lot of strategies that he like purposefully
didn't want to be caught on camera. And I wonder, like,
now that you're on a different show where audience votes
don't affect it, and you can see that, Like, you're
not necessarily like acknowledged as a strategist because no one
can really see your strategy. Do you almost regret not
having a lot of those conversations on camera? No, No,
(26:12):
I don't regret that, and I don't want to talk
too much yet because you know, I don't know who's
gonna listen to. I mean, people don't know what you said,
so it's totally fine. I think it's absolutely brilliant. I mean,
you weren't an asshole to anybody, You're likable, you have
a lot of things about your personality. I think that
makes people not really bottom line, like, you're really good athletically,
(26:37):
so I don't even know. You wouldn't even need to
talk period, we just need to perform. Thanks. I had
some of those moments. Yeah, Well, you know what I
want to know. I want to know what happened in
deliberation because I didn't say anything, still didn't. Yeah, so
like what was the behind the scenes strategy there, because
obviously something must have been said. Well, obviously Emmy wasn't
(26:59):
going to vote for me, right, she was going to
vote for Logan right, and Kyle wasn't going to vote
for me. Because I'm gonna vot for Logan because I
was closer to Kyle than Logan was to Tie. Yeah's true. Look, yeah,
um yeah, we shared this. I mean I was with
Logan too. We shared the same room, We talked a lot.
(27:21):
I used to talk strategies with Kyle more than some
other players that I was close to. So it was
a little bit more trust between me and Kyle than
Logan and Kyle. So at that point, what city was
voting wasn't It wasn't a problem being friendly and helping
(27:42):
people when I get a chance, helped me in the end.
How did you feel when like, did you expect that
Logan was going to call you down? I did. How
did you feel when he did? I did expect him
to call me because I knew he was. He had
to deal with Logan. They were very close. I was
(28:03):
very close with Logan too. He would never call me
in the layer, but he made the deal with Devin,
and he cared more about that deal than the game actually,
because you know, he kind of pulled a ed move
because he could have stayed in the game. He could
(28:25):
have stayed in the game. Yeah, because he could have
called out Devin had he not made a promise, And
I mean, I love Devon, but there's a good chance
that he wasn't going to beat Logan and that. Yeah,
like you two were the probably the best people in
the entire house to compete in that, not even the
people left in the game in the game overall, Like
I don't know who would be either one of you guys. Yeah,
that elimination like was almost tailor made for you. So
(28:48):
how confident were you going into it? I was very confident.
I knew. I think Logan thought we were going to
do a puzzle, and that felted him not pick Devin
because you couldn't really see what's in there. You see
like a little screen and some numbers, and probably that
that top his decision. And I was very confident, very confident.
(29:13):
I knew I just have to run and jump. I
saw that, And you didn't even jump, you like floated
above it. Yeah, right, Like I remember, I had better shots,
to be honest, like I was doing waves and stuff
like that, but I was in my element. Cool bro,
you were, Yeah, you were just jumping over. Do you
(29:34):
feel like that would be your ideal elimination or if not,
what do you feel like would be your ideal elimination.
Um maybe yeah, that could be an ideal elimination something
like speed, like, um, anything with speed, climbing, jumping, Um,
I don't know. I think everything a part of a
(29:54):
poll brow and a pole wrestle. Yeah, just depending on
who I'm going against. If I'm going against someone, you
could weasel your way out of a pole rustle, I
think yeah, yeah, I think it'd be really really agile
that you could get somebody in some weird positions. I
got a really lone arms who whoa we well speaking,
(30:17):
if I'm going against CT on the puzzle, that that
would be a problem or Devin CT is a problem
in everything. He beat me twice on a puzzle in
this game on the missions, like I was close to
beat him. But yeah, he's a monster. Yeah. I have
a question, Um, how did you train for this season?
(30:39):
And I really want to know the truth, Like I
want to know all the weird shit you did because
I watched it. Yeah. So I used to climb blocks
without hardness, just like go on buildings here in Blue
Charis and just like climb Now I'm kidding, how fuck you?
I forget No, I'm gonna tell you one thing about
(31:03):
this man. You literally ate so many blueberries and told
me back in my village we were too poorter for blueberries,
and I felt so fucking bad for you, and I
was every time I'd find blueberries, I'd be like, oh
my god, Emmanuel needs these, and you were like, I'm
just kidding. I felt I wanted to buy him every
blueberry that that mother Earth has. You know, it's funny.
(31:28):
It's funny when you meet new people they can't believe
anything you say. So that's why I'm kind of doing that.
But yeah, talking about you, right, Um, Yeah, I trained, Um,
I did specially like CrossFit endurance stuff. That's that's that
(31:48):
was the main training that I had before coming into
the house. I used to do parkour, I'm doing dancing
and um, I have really good corbination with between my
my limbs, my body, Like I know every single muscle
in my body and I know how to move it. Yeah. Sorry,
(32:14):
you're leaving the door open for me. I have to
take every time. God. Well, you know what, speaking of
muscles and strength, let's talk about the female elimination queen
of this season. Any how proud of you? Wait? What? How?
Proud of proud of you. Oh there it is, how
proud of you were for her for winning all that
(32:38):
I am. I'm I'm still telling her, man, you're just
something else. She she would never think she could do that.
I would never think that she could pull that off.
And I'm so proud of her. And she's like, she's
I can see her. She's so happy. She's doing so
great now. And this this season I think help her
(33:01):
build her trusts, her confidence a little bit more because
she really understood that. Man. Yeah, it was really nice
watching her grow. Yeah. So TJ tells us tonight on
this episode, it's a night of eliminations. You just did
an elimination. What do you think this means? Um? At
(33:25):
this point, Um, I feel confident. I just want an
elimination and I feel like PJ wants me to go home.
That's how I feel, really, Yeah, because I'm the only rookie. No,
That's how I feel in my heart. But it's not
(33:46):
just DJ. It if everyone No, But I think TJ,
of all people, knows what it's like. Like he's watched
all of us in our Yeah. I think he was
actually no, he never watched me in my rookie season,
but he's watched all of you, and I think he's
like a proud papa when people do really well. So
I don't think he would when he sees an athlete
(34:07):
like you as somebody who you know. No, I think
I think I did all this other stuff. I think
we've been talking too much about what's gonna happen. We've
been talking about purges, We've been talking about a lot
of shit. And then he was like, you know what, guys,
you're here, Let's get some more people say at home. Yeah,
it was the worst night ever. It honestly made me
(34:28):
feel like I was in the Hunger Games. I was like, what, Like,
we were so close and it's like two more people
are definitely going home. And they didn't specify guys, girls, Like,
he didn't say shit, yeah, so we don't know what
we don't know. I mean, you guys may know what's
going on. I don't. Wasn't there really glad? I wasn't.
Sounds like an awful night. Yea, it's like my worst nightmares,
(34:51):
the night of eliminations. But you're already Yeah, you just
won one. You are on a high right now, friends
are going, You're ready to go. Um, do you think
you'll have to compete again. I mean, there aren't a
lot of guys. We don't know if like if Emerald's
gonna have to Like, yeah, it does. It's not fair.
(35:12):
It doesn't seem fair to me that it's a night
of eliminations and Kyle ct and m Me are safe.
You just gotta wait and see. You just gotta wait
and see. Let's not even talk about it, because I'm
telling you you're gonna be like, holy shit, it's insane. Yeah,
I don't know what to expect, but I'm really yeah,
it's really excited to watch it and it sounds insane. Yeah, Well,
(35:38):
beep AK eight and then well this is our final
that's our final question. So we asked this to everybody
on the podcast. This season is called Spies, Lies and Allies.
Who know? Stop, you know who the biggest spy is? No,
then let me ask the question. I know, but I
hope that who who is is the big at spy,
(36:01):
the biggest liar, and the biggest ally from this episode specifically,
Oh my god, I think the biggest ally would be
Logan for picking you but oh just yeah, yeah, for
(36:23):
the Devin situation that towards me. Yeah, right, then a liar?
Who will be a liar? Mm hm oh what do
you guys think who was the liar in this episode?
(36:44):
I don't know if honestly there wasn't a liar, but
somebody who I think was God, I don't know. I
don't think that there really was. But CT was like
in the chamber acting like he wanted everybody to kind
of like sell themselves, and he knew what they already
knew what they were doing. So yeah, yeah, I could
see that, not that it was strategy, but they knew
(37:06):
what they were doing, and so he was like, really,
maybe you to I'm a liar? I mean for what sense?
So listen, guys, this isn't the time to work this out.
We could do this after hours in a different space
and then not back it up. So why do you
think I'm the liar? Well, you tell me I'm playing
(37:27):
with you, and then you're shouting for logan? She said,
she shadowed with her heart. What else do you want? Yeah?
He like, what do you want from me? What do
you want from me? What do you want from me?
She snuggled you. She made air pizza with the blanket.
She's done so much stuff, She's plumped. She's plumped, she's
been a plumber with you. Gee, guys, I'm kidding guys. Yeah,
(37:52):
I know, I'm gonna call T the liar and then
the spy. Yeah yeah, I'm always going to be you
are and you are sneaky sneak. Yeah. No, no, don't
put this on the podcast. Don't let anyone you know what. Actually,
I'm gonna put this on my patroon. So if you
guys want to listen to this, go ahead, plug yourself.
(38:15):
You're gonna you're gonna upload this podcast on your Patreon. Okay. Yeah.
If you guys want to hear this, go to my
subscribe to my only fans Okay, cool, Yes, we can't
wait to hear it through your pictures. All right? Well,
speaking of videos, speaking of places to find you, where
can the listeners find you? How can we support you?
And what else? How can I glug off of the
(38:37):
only fan? I'll give you a seven days trial? Yes, um,
all right, guys, you can find me on ig at
Immanuel dot n e agu that is me, and then
from there you can find everything else linking bio Yeah,
(39:01):
Abraham Lincoln bio over there. All right? Cool? Awesome? Well,
thank you so much for coming on the show. We
absolutely you're an incredible athlete. You're an incredible contender, and
I can't wait to see what happens next week because
you're on month. Very nice. You're a nice guy. Yeah.
You two girls, and I love you so much. Tori,
(39:26):
it was wonderful to talk to your fellow plumber. Oh
my god. UM, I'm really excited to see where this
business goes. Thank you. Um. If it's going to become
an international business, I think it may may even go
to Amsterdam. We don't know yet, but um, it's also awesome, amazing, awesome, amazing.
(39:48):
Jesus Christ, it's awesome, amazing, It's awesome, amazing to talk
to Emmanuell. I adore him. He has always been Um,
I've always liked him from day one. So I am
happy that we got to talk to him and he
got to tell us like a couple tips and tricks. Yeah,
I are Victoria's playbook. Yeah, I love the tip for
(40:10):
the play. Okay, let's talk about the play. Let's talk
about Challenge Confidential. I want to know some shit from
this episode, some things from this episode that US viewers
at home don't know and would like to know. Okay,
I want to be very clear. It might have looked
(40:32):
very funny up there when everybody was getting hit with
those bags, but a lot of people ended up kind
of injured from that. I fell on one of the
capsules and got a black eye, and you can't really
see it because I do my makeup so well. No, like,
not well in general, well in general. But I covered
it up well. Okay, he looks amazing. Thanks. I covered
(40:52):
it up really well. But I had a freaking black eye.
It was like right in the crease of my eyelid,
so I made it look like dark eyeshadow. It was
very easy for a girl. Oh that's not too bad.
But if you look like a full black eye, no,
but if you look close enough, there are other people
with black eyes. And somebody, and I can't say who,
even chipped their tooth. Listen, it's not a challenge if
someone's not getting hurt. Yeah, it's probably true. It was
(41:14):
painful that one. We were like, and not only are
you following falling in water once? Like you fell in
over and over and over again, and it was painful.
But you have to try it. You gotta risk it
for the biscuit. Baby, and you didn't get any biscuit
any but I I risked it. Yes, you did risk
you did risk it. Yeah, thank you. I tried. But listen,
(41:35):
it was a great episode. Next episode is probably gonna
be my favorite. I mean, just because it's so intense.
It was the one now now shit's eating up. Yeah,
it was the worst part of the season to be
a part of. But because you know, obviously it was
very scary, but I love the intensity, I love the
change up. So now that I'm not in it anymore,
and I'm excited to see what happened. So Anissa, do
(41:57):
us a favor. Plug your socials and let us know
where we can ask you questions about this week or
upcoming needs to the challenge. My only fans is teaser
um Now, Instagram, Anisa, MTV. That's a n e s
a MTV semier listener questions, thoughts, comments, whatever, I'm here, Tori,
(42:22):
Where can they find you? You can find me in
Romania and I'm just kidding you find me at Tory
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