August 5, 2026 • 12 mins
Deep reading—just 30 minutes a day of a real story, not scrolling—can actually help you live longer and keep your brain sharp! Murphy admits his struggle with this, so we pinpoint what could help him. Also - books we couldn't put down!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Murphy Salmon. Jody after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I was so tickled about that story. And three things
to note today about reading. If you read a little
bit every day, reading thirty minutes, even thirty minutes or
less every day, the same book, the same story, you
will live longer. This research does not. You can live longer.
It's really good for your brain. It does not apply
(00:23):
to like scrolling reading an articles or just an article
even in a magazine.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It doesn't apply to that. It's a.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Thirty minutes and continue of the book until you get
to the end of it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's the complex.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's deep reading complex narratives that your mind can follow
from day to day. So like if you read a
chapter a day or a chapter a night, it is
really good for your brain in a way that you
know simple scanning and reading emails doesn't countess, isn't that beautiful?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Next time you pick it up, You've got to remember
recall everything. The way the story is going and all
the characters.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And all that stimulates your brain in a way that
is really really good for it. I've always felt that
as the way Number one I love having something to
look forward to is if you hit it chapter a night.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, you've you've read a chapter, You've enjoyed it,
you have something to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hopefully it's good enough that you're interested in what's happening
in the next chapter.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Did they say that it ties only to stories or
does it work with puzzles? Is this just about brain activity? Period?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's about reading.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It was about reading only, so not puzzles. Like I
see where you're going with that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I just mean, I mean, to me, brain activity is
brain activity unless it's a specific type, because we do
know that, you know, mental activity and cognition. If you
keep it active, it's going to tend to stay active
if you don't use.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It or lose it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right, the study is about It suggests that deep reading,
you know, holding a complex narrative in your brain over
many days, that you're interested in it just it's just
it engages your brain in ways that quick scanning cannot do.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know, that's the very thing that I'm not good
at either, And it's I mean, it's been that way
my whole life. I can read a book and it
takes me a minute to remember characters and all of that.
I can remember a storyline, but then everything just kind
of wears off of me. And then as time goes by,
once I've read the book, sometimes I even forget. I
don't remember the characters. I don't remember the general plot.
(02:21):
Maybe it's maybe.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
If you read like this though, maybe we could find
something fiction or something exciting to read that you were
interested in.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But when when I was in school, it was the
same thing. Yeah, you know, I mean. And then there
are there's certainly some autobiographies and things like that that
I've written that the stories and pieces of stick. But
if there are names that I don't know that I'm
having to learn, they don't. They don't stick.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Is that weird?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean, it's I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Because to me, a story is everything you know, and
I look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I need it. I always want to be reading a
good book.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Storytelling is the original form of entertainment. It's probably the
oldest form of entertainment.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, if I read a book too fast, it's almost
like beinging a show. I have to talk to you
again because I don't retain it.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's why a chapter a day is the way.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Let me ask you this, if I you know, because
I don't I don't read it right now, I'm listening
to audio books. Does that count still keeping track of
characters and storylines?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think that counts.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, it doesn't help you with your being a better
reader and being a better you know, it doesn't help
you with your vocabulary as much.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I mean and it also does not. Again, I
don't know how deep the study goes. It's not going
to do the hand to eye coordination, the eye to
paper coordination, because there are motor skills that you're used
in addition to just retaining the story. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know what the I'll have to Now you get
me curious, Jody. I know I know the study as
you mentioned it, but now I really want to dive
(03:48):
in and see people.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Who read books for as little as thirty minutes a
day lived years longer than non readers, and they it's
brain activity.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And I also wonder if there's a piece associated with
that too. You're disconnecting yourself from the daily grind reality,
You're losing yourself in the story, and maybe that, you know,
lowers cortisol levels and so that you feel yeah better.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
There's probably a lot more to it than they You know,
that's one study and that's their findings. There's deeper parts
of that study, and you probably are onto something. It
is something that I look forward to, so it's positive association.
It has nothing to do with my daily life.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Believe me.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The book I'm reading now is you know, set in
the nineteen forties. But I completely transform myself. I completely
go there when I'm reading, and.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I love it. So you crave it, Yeah, I definitely did.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It was like you said, you look forward to it.
I can't wait till I get home later and get
back to the book.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
That was always one thing that I and you know,
just because I do love to read and have something
to read at all times. You can't press that onto
someone else you want them to. But like, I don't
think Murphy will ever be the same kind of reader
I am.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And that's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But when our girls were little and they had summer reading,
I would bet, please, just one chapter a day, you
will hit your goal, and you might. I thought we
can create a little reader here, and I think they
both do like to read. And now they're so busy
young adults that they can't find the time to fit
it in. And that's a real thing too. But I
remember thinking that's the way, just one chapter a day,
(05:19):
you'll hit your summer reading goals instead of trying to
read it too fast toward the end of summer when
you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Just cram it in.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You get your twenty books, then get.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Your twenty books in and get your points or whatever
it is, whatever kind of reading program was at the school.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
No. I wonder too if the type of book it is,
or that the subject matter helps, because if you're reading
a who Done It? Or a mystery like it seems
like a lot of books we read, you're going to
be trying to figure it. It's going to have your
brain engage trying to figure out while you're reading it
and remembering characters and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Look, this book that I read not long ago, you
might even enjoy it, Sam, I enjoyed every single word
of it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Was called Heartwood.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
All one word is the title, and it's in several
different voices. Like one chapter would be the woman who
was hiking is the Appalachian Trail and got lost in
the wilderness, and then the next chapter is the woman
who was in charge of search and rescue looking for
(06:16):
her with a team assembly and not sleeping because she's
always found people. You just can't find this woman. And
then the next person is someone online who's following the
story and ends up like sending tips in. And yes,
that one kept me because I had to know what
happened to this woman. So there's no way I was
going to let that. That is a book you start
(06:37):
and then finish, and it was written so well that
it was beautiful enough for me to not I never
had that point where I was having to reread a chap,
a paragraph or force myself.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
That makes sense, Yeah, yeah it does.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But every book I read, I have to go back
because I'll be into a paragraph and somehow my mind
managed just and wander and my eyes are moving, and
I say that I have to go back again. It's
like to really digest it, I have to go back,
and sometimes I have to go back three and four times.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, Murphy, that to me is not that's that's an
attention span thing.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What were you saying, that's an attention span thing.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
We've been married a long time, I've lived with you
a long time. We don't talk it about about it
here a lot, but it's definitely something that probably should
have been looked into when you were a kid. You
are a very smart person, a very driven person, and
I think the only thing that gets in your way
is that is your attention, your mind, and that's not
(07:34):
your fault, but it is a fact that your mind
is sometimes it seems almost working against you, you know
that to.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Get and then that's why I've really tried to pick
up and you know, read books on a on a
regular basis to have something like that to take. But
you kind of know what happened by books? You mean
the marketing books?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Are you mean anything.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Really anything in general? Yeah, the marketing books are the
ones that capture my interest.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Can you remember any book that you read start to
finish that you loved that you looked what I was
just describing.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Have you ever had that experience?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah? And both of them were autobiographies. One was the
Lucille Ball Autobiography, which I thought was a fantastic book.
I guess it was an autobiography, it was a.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Biography either way, that's good to know.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And there was a book on Johnny Carson that I
read from start to finish that I found really fascinating.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know, that's your sweet spot.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So stories of people who I'm interested in, I guess
will get me from start to finish.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And you just got a was it a Father's Day
gift that Phoebe gave you? What is it?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's Gordon Lightfoot and I have not had it. So
I picked up and started reading the first few pages
of that. I have not continued on that, but that's
interesting to me because he's an artist that I'm fascinated by.
His story is also an interesting one.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
See that's your sweet spot for your brain to get
that kind of juice and exercise, and that would be
good for you. Try you're disciplined, Try a chapter a night.
Don't go overboard, Just one chapter night and see if
you could do it. You know, you eat every day,
you sleep every day. Read one chapter a day and
(09:15):
see if that changes your brain a little bit. That's
a good idea and you could have something to look
forward to.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You gotta find time to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, one chapter, I'm just saying it. Yeah, I mean
one chapter.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You know he's busy doing.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's usually going to be before bed. And I do
like that because it's the same the same thing happens
to me, that happens to Jody is it becomes relaxing
and then you eventually you you kind of have to
stop because you're starting to nod off.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
How many times does he come to bed and I'm
sleep and there's just a book, So there's always a
book between us yet I'm I'm sorry, but whatever. That's
that's my jam, either my kindle or a book, because
I do both. I like to read on the kindle,
but I like sometimes like real, real books. The one
that I'm reading right now and I can't put it down,
(09:57):
and I know I've said it once or twice before,
and we even talked about it last night during Facebook
Live Girl Talk Tuesday, because I can't put it down.
It's one of those I can't wait to be with
those girls again. These characters. It's called the Calamity Club.
It's a thick it's a commitment to read this book,
but it's worth every word. It's by Catherine Stockett, who
wrote The Help and Same not the same story at all,
(10:21):
but different women and different girls and how they where
they are.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
In their lives. Some of them.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
One of these little girls is in an orphanage and
she doesn't know why her mom left her, and then
there's another lady who's her name is Bertie, and she's
volunteering at the orphanage.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's crazy, it's how beautifully good it is.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And it is a really thick book. I've rolled over it,
so sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Sorry anyway, if you love The Help and you thought
she was great, and she is a great author, she
took ten years to write this book. It's what I'm
reading now that I can't put down. I mean, when
was the last time you had that that you looked
forward to every chapter?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Mine is current.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Honestly had it recently with Hail Mary, Project Hail Mary.
And then after I read Project Hail Mary, I went
back and read one of us of his earlier book
The Marsh Everywhere at the Martian was also turned into a.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Movie, and again you.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well, how are they going to get out of this?
What's next? But can I also have a you know,
a honorable mention please? It's authors Robert Ludlam and Dan Brown.
Robert Ludlam is the one who wrote the Born books. Yep,
you only wrote three, even though it seems like it
goes on forever. And Dan Brown, who did the Da
Vinci Code and Angel.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Angels and Demons. I read those too.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I've read Da Vinci Code three times just because it's
I like it. And whenever he puts a book out,
I don't care what it is. I'll read it just
because I like, you know, like figure out. While he's
trying to figure out wherever he's leading us, I try
to figure out the mystery, right.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
None of his are obvious either. This multi layers.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I remember that being this is too much for my
for my head. It was good, totally good, Murphy. I
can't wait to hear what biography or autobiography you want
to do this with, maybe Lightfoot, maybe something you've read
along are something brand new.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
It would be good, I think.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, I've already started Lightfoot, so I think I'm
going to finish that one.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, one chapter a day. It's a good plan. Missed
any part of the show. Get it all on the
Murphy Salmon Jody Podcast.
Welcome to Murphy Salmon. Jody after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I was so tickled about that story. And three things
to note today about reading. If you read a little
bit every day, reading thirty minutes, even thirty minutes or
less every day, the same book, the same story, you
will live longer. This research does not. You can live longer.
It's really good for your brain. It does not apply
(00:23):
to like scrolling reading an articles or just an article
even in a magazine.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It doesn't apply to that. It's a.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Thirty minutes and continue of the book until you get
to the end of it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's the complex.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's deep reading complex narratives that your mind can follow
from day to day. So like if you read a
chapter a day or a chapter a night, it is
really good for your brain in a way that you
know simple scanning and reading emails doesn't countess, isn't that beautiful?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Next time you pick it up, You've got to remember
recall everything. The way the story is going and all
the characters.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And all that stimulates your brain in a way that
is really really good for it. I've always felt that
as the way Number one I love having something to
look forward to is if you hit it chapter a night.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, you've you've read a chapter, You've enjoyed it,
you have something to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hopefully it's good enough that you're interested in what's happening
in the next chapter.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Did they say that it ties only to stories or
does it work with puzzles? Is this just about brain activity? Period?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's about reading.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It was about reading only, so not puzzles. Like I
see where you're going with that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I just mean, I mean, to me, brain activity is
brain activity unless it's a specific type, because we do
know that, you know, mental activity and cognition. If you
keep it active, it's going to tend to stay active
if you don't use.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It or lose it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right, the study is about It suggests that deep reading,
you know, holding a complex narrative in your brain over
many days, that you're interested in it just it's just
it engages your brain in ways that quick scanning cannot do.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know, that's the very thing that I'm not good
at either, And it's I mean, it's been that way
my whole life. I can read a book and it
takes me a minute to remember characters and all of that.
I can remember a storyline, but then everything just kind
of wears off of me. And then as time goes by,
once I've read the book, sometimes I even forget. I
don't remember the characters. I don't remember the general plot.
(02:21):
Maybe it's maybe.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
If you read like this though, maybe we could find
something fiction or something exciting to read that you were
interested in.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But when when I was in school, it was the
same thing. Yeah, you know, I mean. And then there
are there's certainly some autobiographies and things like that that
I've written that the stories and pieces of stick. But
if there are names that I don't know that I'm
having to learn, they don't. They don't stick.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Is that weird?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean, it's I don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Because to me, a story is everything you know, and
I look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I need it. I always want to be reading a
good book.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Storytelling is the original form of entertainment. It's probably the
oldest form of entertainment.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, if I read a book too fast, it's almost
like beinging a show. I have to talk to you
again because I don't retain it.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's why a chapter a day is the way.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Let me ask you this, if I you know, because
I don't I don't read it right now, I'm listening
to audio books. Does that count still keeping track of
characters and storylines?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think that counts.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, it doesn't help you with your being a better
reader and being a better you know, it doesn't help
you with your vocabulary as much.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I mean and it also does not. Again, I
don't know how deep the study goes. It's not going
to do the hand to eye coordination, the eye to
paper coordination, because there are motor skills that you're used
in addition to just retaining the story. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know what the I'll have to Now you get
me curious, Jody. I know I know the study as
you mentioned it, but now I really want to dive
(03:48):
in and see people.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Who read books for as little as thirty minutes a
day lived years longer than non readers, and they it's
brain activity.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And I also wonder if there's a piece associated with
that too. You're disconnecting yourself from the daily grind reality,
You're losing yourself in the story, and maybe that, you know,
lowers cortisol levels and so that you feel yeah better.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
There's probably a lot more to it than they You know,
that's one study and that's their findings. There's deeper parts
of that study, and you probably are onto something. It
is something that I look forward to, so it's positive association.
It has nothing to do with my daily life.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Believe me.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The book I'm reading now is you know, set in
the nineteen forties. But I completely transform myself. I completely
go there when I'm reading, and.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I love it. So you crave it, Yeah, I definitely did.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It was like you said, you look forward to it.
I can't wait till I get home later and get
back to the book.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
That was always one thing that I and you know,
just because I do love to read and have something
to read at all times. You can't press that onto
someone else you want them to. But like, I don't
think Murphy will ever be the same kind of reader
I am.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And that's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But when our girls were little and they had summer reading,
I would bet, please, just one chapter a day, you
will hit your goal, and you might. I thought we
can create a little reader here, and I think they
both do like to read. And now they're so busy
young adults that they can't find the time to fit
it in. And that's a real thing too. But I
remember thinking that's the way, just one chapter a day,
(05:19):
you'll hit your summer reading goals instead of trying to
read it too fast toward the end of summer when
you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Just cram it in.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You get your twenty books, then get.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Your twenty books in and get your points or whatever
it is, whatever kind of reading program was at the school.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
No. I wonder too if the type of book it is,
or that the subject matter helps, because if you're reading
a who Done It? Or a mystery like it seems
like a lot of books we read, you're going to
be trying to figure it. It's going to have your
brain engage trying to figure out while you're reading it
and remembering characters and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Look, this book that I read not long ago, you
might even enjoy it, Sam, I enjoyed every single word
of it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Was called Heartwood.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
All one word is the title, and it's in several
different voices. Like one chapter would be the woman who
was hiking is the Appalachian Trail and got lost in
the wilderness, and then the next chapter is the woman
who was in charge of search and rescue looking for
(06:16):
her with a team assembly and not sleeping because she's
always found people. You just can't find this woman. And
then the next person is someone online who's following the
story and ends up like sending tips in. And yes,
that one kept me because I had to know what
happened to this woman. So there's no way I was
going to let that. That is a book you start
(06:37):
and then finish, and it was written so well that
it was beautiful enough for me to not I never
had that point where I was having to reread a chap,
a paragraph or force myself.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
That makes sense, Yeah, yeah it does.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But every book I read, I have to go back
because I'll be into a paragraph and somehow my mind
managed just and wander and my eyes are moving, and
I say that I have to go back again. It's
like to really digest it, I have to go back,
and sometimes I have to go back three and four times.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, Murphy, that to me is not that's that's an
attention span thing.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What were you saying, that's an attention span thing.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
We've been married a long time, I've lived with you
a long time. We don't talk it about about it
here a lot, but it's definitely something that probably should
have been looked into when you were a kid. You
are a very smart person, a very driven person, and
I think the only thing that gets in your way
is that is your attention, your mind, and that's not
(07:34):
your fault, but it is a fact that your mind
is sometimes it seems almost working against you, you know
that to.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Get and then that's why I've really tried to pick
up and you know, read books on a on a
regular basis to have something like that to take. But
you kind of know what happened by books? You mean
the marketing books?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Are you mean anything.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Really anything in general? Yeah, the marketing books are the
ones that capture my interest.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Can you remember any book that you read start to
finish that you loved that you looked what I was
just describing.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Have you ever had that experience?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah? And both of them were autobiographies. One was the
Lucille Ball Autobiography, which I thought was a fantastic book.
I guess it was an autobiography, it was a.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Biography either way, that's good to know.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And there was a book on Johnny Carson that I
read from start to finish that I found really fascinating.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know, that's your sweet spot.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So stories of people who I'm interested in, I guess
will get me from start to finish.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And you just got a was it a Father's Day
gift that Phoebe gave you? What is it?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's Gordon Lightfoot and I have not had it. So
I picked up and started reading the first few pages
of that. I have not continued on that, but that's
interesting to me because he's an artist that I'm fascinated by.
His story is also an interesting one.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
See that's your sweet spot for your brain to get
that kind of juice and exercise, and that would be
good for you. Try you're disciplined, Try a chapter a night.
Don't go overboard, Just one chapter night and see if
you could do it. You know, you eat every day,
you sleep every day. Read one chapter a day and
(09:15):
see if that changes your brain a little bit. That's
a good idea and you could have something to look
forward to.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You gotta find time to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, one chapter, I'm just saying it. Yeah, I mean
one chapter.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You know he's busy doing.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's usually going to be before bed. And I do
like that because it's the same the same thing happens
to me, that happens to Jody is it becomes relaxing
and then you eventually you you kind of have to
stop because you're starting to nod off.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
How many times does he come to bed and I'm
sleep and there's just a book, So there's always a
book between us yet I'm I'm sorry, but whatever. That's
that's my jam, either my kindle or a book, because
I do both. I like to read on the kindle,
but I like sometimes like real, real books. The one
that I'm reading right now and I can't put it down,
(09:57):
and I know I've said it once or twice before,
and we even talked about it last night during Facebook
Live Girl Talk Tuesday, because I can't put it down.
It's one of those I can't wait to be with
those girls again. These characters. It's called the Calamity Club.
It's a thick it's a commitment to read this book,
but it's worth every word. It's by Catherine Stockett, who
wrote The Help and Same not the same story at all,
(10:21):
but different women and different girls and how they where
they are.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
In their lives. Some of them.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
One of these little girls is in an orphanage and
she doesn't know why her mom left her, and then
there's another lady who's her name is Bertie, and she's
volunteering at the orphanage.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's crazy, it's how beautifully good it is.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And it is a really thick book. I've rolled over it,
so sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Sorry anyway, if you love The Help and you thought
she was great, and she is a great author, she
took ten years to write this book. It's what I'm
reading now that I can't put down. I mean, when
was the last time you had that that you looked
forward to every chapter?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Mine is current.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Honestly had it recently with Hail Mary, Project Hail Mary.
And then after I read Project Hail Mary, I went
back and read one of us of his earlier book
The Marsh Everywhere at the Martian was also turned into a.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Movie, and again you.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well, how are they going to get out of this?
What's next? But can I also have a you know,
a honorable mention please? It's authors Robert Ludlam and Dan Brown.
Robert Ludlam is the one who wrote the Born books. Yep,
you only wrote three, even though it seems like it
goes on forever. And Dan Brown, who did the Da
Vinci Code and Angel.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Angels and Demons. I read those too.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I've read Da Vinci Code three times just because it's
I like it. And whenever he puts a book out,
I don't care what it is. I'll read it just
because I like, you know, like figure out. While he's
trying to figure out wherever he's leading us, I try
to figure out the mystery, right.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
None of his are obvious either. This multi layers.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I remember that being this is too much for my
for my head. It was good, totally good, Murphy. I
can't wait to hear what biography or autobiography you want
to do this with, maybe Lightfoot, maybe something you've read
along are something brand new.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
It would be good, I think.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, I've already started Lightfoot, so I think I'm
going to finish that one.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, one chapter a day. It's a good plan. Missed
any part of the show. Get it all on the
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