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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jody after the show podcast,
I learned a lesson this weekend that I didn't realize
that actually learned in the fifth grade, Jodi, and uh
and and and and here I am all these years later.
You know, I want to share it because I think
it applies to anybody's life, and it has to do
with getting awards. When was the first time you won
an award?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Third grade?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah? What'd you win for? Joe?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Wait? No, no, I won one before that, like in kindergarten.
And I don't know, most musical person or something.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ok.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
They rewarded my behavior or something.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I don't know. I just remember thinking it was a
cool trophy and I had it in my room forever. Yeah,
you know you got a trophy for it, Yeah, at
the end of the year, the most something. And I
don't know why, musical. I don't know what it was exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, what about you, Zam?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, speaking of musical, I got a trophy in sixth
grade for being the best musician in the band.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh what did you drums? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Really?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah? Sam? Then I quit the band, So.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I was never a musical past that.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There's it's really something special, especially when you get that
first one in your entire life. And certificates are wonderful,
but there's something about a trophy or a plaque, you know,
that really sticks out, that's special and it's different. So
for me, the first was like I think, perfect attendance
in the first grade, which was the last time I
had perfect attendance in school. But anyway, but the first
(01:32):
time that ever received a true plaque was actually in
the fifth grade. Okay, but it was bittersweet. I was
actually bummed to get.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It because it was second place exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Jody knows me so well. It was second place because
we were graduating from the fifth grade, you know, it's
into elementary school, going into sixth grade. And so it
was the awards ceremony and there were I guess there
were three different places for grade point averages and all
that kind of stuff. It was honors, is what they
called it. So they went through all the third place
(02:05):
honors and those were awarded, and I really thought my
grades had been great, and so when they called me out,
they called my name out, I was bummed.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I mean I was.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I loved being acknowledged for it, but I was really
bummed I felt like, man, what number one? No, I
didn't think I was. I've never thought I was number
one in that because I always did well in school.
But the brains were obviously the brains, you know what
I'm saying. And so then there were a number of
my friends, probably I don't know ten or twelve of
my really close friends who got the first the top tier.
(02:40):
So that part of the ceremony comes to a close
and I think that we're rapping, and then they say, okay,
well we've got one more award. This award was called
the Atti Kirby Award, and the reason it was named
that is that one of the principles of my elementary
school is named in her honor. The principal at that
time was miss Elkins, remember her first name, And she
(03:02):
was the one that went up there and began to
explain that the Adi Kirby Award is the award that
is is basically an all around award. It's citizenship, it's grades,
it's how you conduct yourself, and it's how other people
see you. And they're going, you know, through and explaining that,
and I was wondering. There were a couple of people
in the class and I was thinking, I know exactly
(03:24):
who's going to win that one. No, I did not
think that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
One was me.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And and then so they called my name out and
why and it was me. Now I was blown away
by that, you know, at that time, and because again
first award as a kid, it's it's the kind of
thing it really means something to you. But as I
was going through the box and I found I actually
still have those two plaques, and and and I and
(03:50):
I realized, you know that, you know, going through life,
a lot of times when you hit that moment where
you think you've achieved something and you you don't quite
hit them, there's usually something better around the corner. At
least That's been my experience for the most part. And
I share that for me for that reason. It's a
life lesson if whether you're you know, younger and still
(04:12):
in school and listening to this podcast or not, or
you're hitting bumps and you're hitting bruises in your life,
it's true at some point. It doesn't mean that it's
going to be nothing but perfection for the rest you know,
of your life, but you're going to hit these little
stumbling blocks and you think it's really like you've fallen
short and you're not going to succeed at what you're doing.
But the next thing, you know, that next door opens
(04:34):
and it happens, and you know, I mean after that,
you know, I mean, it's been kind of a roller coaster,
you know, right, And then I think the other you know,
the big one that you realize is it's wonderful to
have those accolades in school. But then you transition into
real life and realize that, you know, those accolades had
their place in their time and they were great for
the morale booster, but in your professional working life, your
(04:56):
elementary school plaques they're great for personal st ories and
all that, and they're great for like I would say
when Jody says, keep the wow. You know what I'm saying,
If there's if there's really something that was so impactful
from your childhood that it's steered you through your entire life,
by all means, hold on hold on to that, right, keep.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It in your mind. It just means keep it in
your psyche, right, well, you need it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I also, I mean, I remember having you know, so
much success in so my grades were just I don't mista,
it was probably above average. I mean, I don't remember
what I graduated with three two something, maybe something like that.
It was all I'd never wanted to be a valedictorian.
I never I never really thought that I had those
(05:37):
kinds of you know, booksmarts, and quite frankly, it was
more important to me to grow my social smarts because
I already knew early on that was going to be
the key to you know.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
And that's all still where you know, where you excel.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And that's another one I can't take credit for. That's
a combination of my grandmother. It's a combination of John Dobbs,
who was the teacher of the radio program which eventually
opened up, you know, every other door in my life
because you know, he understood how to teach people beyond
what their vocation was. And but you know, you come
out of high school and the world is so different.
(06:15):
You know, those things that you were rewarded for, they're wonderful,
they're important, but you're going to hit the next set
of bumps and bruises. But I think the same thing
applies again, because just when you think it's the end
of the road for something, something's going to change, you
know somewhere.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think that that really is what hope is all about.
And I also realize now you need to remember that
no matter where you are in your life. And I'm
sure it gets tougher that the older you get. I
don't want to pretend to know what my grandmother experienced
by living for so long that she lost all of
her friends. And you know what I'm saying, but it's
just a it's an important thing to remember to me
(06:54):
at any stage that you're at in your life, is
that it's okay to get second place, even when you
wanted first, because something's going to happen. And look, first
place isn't everything anyway, right.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's it's just it's another plaque. But you're right because
your circumstances change. Do you does your boss care that
you didn't miss a whole year of work. No, No,
they expect you perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But those things that you are taught and rewarded for
are so important that well, because they do set up you,
you know, for your your approach to life, or your discipline,
your responsibility, you know, I mean all of those things.
But it was so weird because when I was just
going through the box and I looked at those is
the first time I ever thought about it. Honestly, I
hadn't thought about those in forever. I mean it was
(07:43):
the fifth grade, you know, but but that's where I
remembered the feelings. It's so weird how you pick up
something like that and it transports you emotionally back to
that time. And I remembered that feeling and then I
remember the oh my god, because they both can from
the same award ceremony, and it was just it was
(08:04):
more profound for me now, sir, at my current age
than it was, you know, when I was ten years old.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, someone saw something in you to give you that
end of the day. Here's the big character award. I
call it what it sounds like. It was some sort
of overall character award. Somebody in that administration saw that
in you, and so yeah, that is that should mean
more to you now because you can't you can't grasp
(08:31):
what that means when you were I'm sure it gave
you a confidence boost, and that's the beauty of it.
I always hope that went with regard to award ceremonies
which will be coming up on some in May at
the end of a school year, you know. I always
hope that. No, everyone doesn't earn one doesn't earn an award,
But you know when giving those out, real thought to
(08:55):
what you're saying, this is, this is for you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yes, you're right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And real fought into maybe the process of how many
teachers vote on it or how many administrators vote on it.
How is that done? Just because when a name is
called and it's a huge auditorium full of school kids,
when the name is called, it also tells every person
(09:21):
who hears it something about themselves, like I didn't get
it this year, or I didn't expect to get it anyway,
or I knew he was going to get it. You know,
we all are. We all have internal dialogue all the time,
especially children, and they need more context for it than
we do.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, I know that was a surprise to you.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But have you ever, either of y'all ever not won
an award that you thought I'm a shoe in for this.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, I've never expecting oh okay, I'm going to get
this one.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't think I've ever been a shoe in for anything. Honestly.
In fact, it's quite the opposite. I mean, I think
anything that I don't expect anything that I have achieved
over time as usually because I've fallen fallen down and
you know, busted my nose, not literally but figuratively speaking.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's always the you know, the hardest things. I don't,
I mean, I can the only other It's not like
I got that many awards for things anyway. I'm trying
to think back, like science fairs and stuff. I always
hoped I did, but I never thought I was going
to be a shoe in. I did get second place,
you know, in one thing that my dad actually went
up help, you know, helping me build, and I'm happy
(10:28):
about that. I did all the presentation part, but I
kind of felt a little bit guilty about getting a
second place ribbon for something that i'd only been part of.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think that go go right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But you know it's as we as we're talking about
this now, Jody, what you just said really does. It
illustrates to me the importance also of teachers and those
the teachers who really are engaged with you, and I
know that's more challenging today in today's environment. That's why
I love what today's teachers are able to do, because
to still maintained the passion with all the challenges that
(11:02):
weren't They didn't exist. There were no technological distractions and
those kind of things in the classroom other than no calculators.
But you know the fact that you know, teachers and
others were that, you know, engaged in molding me as
who I am. And I remember. The other thing about
that is my parents, like many many parents, are always
(11:27):
emphasizing just treat others well. Even when they don't treat
you well, you treat other people well. And so I
guess that's part of what you were seeing, Jody, the
citizenship part of that, maybe because I don't I've always
been that way. We joke about that from time to
time about you know, you talk about the how nice
(11:49):
I am to people at the drive through windows, and
you know, all that kind of stuff. And I think
that's where I.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Think you always had it. I think that's who you are.
You obviously. What's funny about when you first said minutes
ago about you winning that big, the big award, I'm thinking,
of course, he was already this person and you are.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
When you're born, you know, part of it is your environment,
and you're who's nurturing you and what your what roof
you live under. But it also you are who you
are when you're born. There are certain character traits that
you have when you're born, and Murphy already had some
of that, some of that little leadership obviously. So yay,
(12:29):
did you keep your plaques?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I know you did.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, that's why I came across them, and as I
was cleaning out a box the other day, and that's
what's what brought it all, you know, back to mind.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I came home to all these boxes and all this stuff,
and you rerouted some of it, didn't you reorganize it
and put it away?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Sweet?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So for what it's worth, I hope that's a helpful
message to you know, share if you're facing some sort
of a challenge right now in your life where you
really wanted to be you know, number one, number two
it's something, and you're number three. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You mean, if you wanted to win an oscar last
night and you didn't win.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Actually, you're right missed any part of the show.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Get it All on the Murphy Salmon Jody Podcast.
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jody after the show podcast,
I learned a lesson this weekend that I didn't realize
that actually learned in the fifth grade, Jodi, and uh
and and and and here I am all these years later.
You know, I want to share it because I think
it applies to anybody's life, and it has to do
with getting awards. When was the first time you won
an award?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Third grade?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah? What'd you win for? Joe?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Wait? No, no, I won one before that, like in kindergarten.
And I don't know, most musical person or something.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ok.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
They rewarded my behavior or something.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I don't know. I just remember thinking it was a
cool trophy and I had it in my room forever. Yeah,
you know you got a trophy for it, Yeah, at
the end of the year, the most something. And I
don't know why, musical. I don't know what it was exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, what about you, Zam?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, speaking of musical, I got a trophy in sixth
grade for being the best musician in the band.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh what did you drums? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Really?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah? Sam? Then I quit the band, So.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I was never a musical past that.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There's it's really something special, especially when you get that
first one in your entire life. And certificates are wonderful,
but there's something about a trophy or a plaque, you know,
that really sticks out, that's special and it's different. So
for me, the first was like I think, perfect attendance
in the first grade, which was the last time I
had perfect attendance in school. But anyway, but the first
(01:32):
time that ever received a true plaque was actually in
the fifth grade. Okay, but it was bittersweet. I was
actually bummed to get.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It because it was second place exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Jody knows me so well. It was second place because
we were graduating from the fifth grade, you know, it's
into elementary school, going into sixth grade. And so it
was the awards ceremony and there were I guess there
were three different places for grade point averages and all
that kind of stuff. It was honors, is what they
called it. So they went through all the third place
(02:05):
honors and those were awarded, and I really thought my
grades had been great, and so when they called me out,
they called my name out, I was bummed.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I mean I was.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I loved being acknowledged for it, but I was really
bummed I felt like, man, what number one? No, I
didn't think I was. I've never thought I was number
one in that because I always did well in school.
But the brains were obviously the brains, you know what
I'm saying. And so then there were a number of
my friends, probably I don't know ten or twelve of
my really close friends who got the first the top tier.
(02:40):
So that part of the ceremony comes to a close
and I think that we're rapping, and then they say, okay,
well we've got one more award. This award was called
the Atti Kirby Award, and the reason it was named
that is that one of the principles of my elementary
school is named in her honor. The principal at that
time was miss Elkins, remember her first name, And she
(03:02):
was the one that went up there and began to
explain that the Adi Kirby Award is the award that
is is basically an all around award. It's citizenship, it's grades,
it's how you conduct yourself, and it's how other people
see you. And they're going, you know, through and explaining that,
and I was wondering. There were a couple of people
in the class and I was thinking, I know exactly
(03:24):
who's going to win that one. No, I did not
think that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
One was me.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And and then so they called my name out and
why and it was me. Now I was blown away
by that, you know, at that time, and because again
first award as a kid, it's it's the kind of
thing it really means something to you. But as I
was going through the box and I found I actually
still have those two plaques, and and and I and
(03:50):
I realized, you know that, you know, going through life,
a lot of times when you hit that moment where
you think you've achieved something and you you don't quite
hit them, there's usually something better around the corner. At
least That's been my experience for the most part. And
I share that for me for that reason. It's a
life lesson if whether you're you know, younger and still
(04:12):
in school and listening to this podcast or not, or
you're hitting bumps and you're hitting bruises in your life,
it's true at some point. It doesn't mean that it's
going to be nothing but perfection for the rest you know,
of your life, but you're going to hit these little
stumbling blocks and you think it's really like you've fallen
short and you're not going to succeed at what you're doing.
But the next thing, you know, that next door opens
(04:34):
and it happens, and you know, I mean after that,
you know, I mean, it's been kind of a roller coaster,
you know, right, And then I think the other you know,
the big one that you realize is it's wonderful to
have those accolades in school. But then you transition into
real life and realize that, you know, those accolades had
their place in their time and they were great for
the morale booster, but in your professional working life, your
(04:56):
elementary school plaques they're great for personal st ories and
all that, and they're great for like I would say
when Jody says, keep the wow. You know what I'm saying,
If there's if there's really something that was so impactful
from your childhood that it's steered you through your entire life,
by all means, hold on hold on to that, right, keep.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It in your mind. It just means keep it in
your psyche, right, well, you need it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I also, I mean, I remember having you know, so
much success in so my grades were just I don't mista,
it was probably above average. I mean, I don't remember
what I graduated with three two something, maybe something like that.
It was all I'd never wanted to be a valedictorian.
I never I never really thought that I had those
(05:37):
kinds of you know, booksmarts, and quite frankly, it was
more important to me to grow my social smarts because
I already knew early on that was going to be
the key to you know.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
And that's all still where you know, where you excel.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And that's another one I can't take credit for. That's
a combination of my grandmother. It's a combination of John Dobbs,
who was the teacher of the radio program which eventually
opened up, you know, every other door in my life
because you know, he understood how to teach people beyond
what their vocation was. And but you know, you come
out of high school and the world is so different.
(06:15):
You know, those things that you were rewarded for, they're wonderful,
they're important, but you're going to hit the next set
of bumps and bruises. But I think the same thing
applies again, because just when you think it's the end
of the road for something, something's going to change, you
know somewhere.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think that that really is what hope is all about.
And I also realize now you need to remember that
no matter where you are in your life. And I'm
sure it gets tougher that the older you get. I
don't want to pretend to know what my grandmother experienced
by living for so long that she lost all of
her friends. And you know what I'm saying, but it's
just a it's an important thing to remember to me
(06:54):
at any stage that you're at in your life, is
that it's okay to get second place, even when you
wanted first, because something's going to happen. And look, first
place isn't everything anyway, right.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's it's just it's another plaque. But you're right because
your circumstances change. Do you does your boss care that
you didn't miss a whole year of work. No, No,
they expect you perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But those things that you are taught and rewarded for
are so important that well, because they do set up you,
you know, for your your approach to life, or your discipline,
your responsibility, you know, I mean all of those things.
But it was so weird because when I was just
going through the box and I looked at those is
the first time I ever thought about it. Honestly, I
hadn't thought about those in forever. I mean it was
(07:43):
the fifth grade, you know, but but that's where I
remembered the feelings. It's so weird how you pick up
something like that and it transports you emotionally back to
that time. And I remembered that feeling and then I
remember the oh my god, because they both can from
the same award ceremony, and it was just it was
(08:04):
more profound for me now, sir, at my current age
than it was, you know, when I was ten years old.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, someone saw something in you to give you that
end of the day. Here's the big character award. I
call it what it sounds like. It was some sort
of overall character award. Somebody in that administration saw that
in you, and so yeah, that is that should mean
more to you now because you can't you can't grasp
(08:31):
what that means when you were I'm sure it gave
you a confidence boost, and that's the beauty of it.
I always hope that went with regard to award ceremonies
which will be coming up on some in May at
the end of a school year, you know. I always
hope that. No, everyone doesn't earn one doesn't earn an award,
But you know when giving those out, real thought to
(08:55):
what you're saying, this is, this is for you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yes, you're right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And real fought into maybe the process of how many
teachers vote on it or how many administrators vote on it.
How is that done? Just because when a name is
called and it's a huge auditorium full of school kids,
when the name is called, it also tells every person
(09:21):
who hears it something about themselves, like I didn't get
it this year, or I didn't expect to get it anyway,
or I knew he was going to get it. You know,
we all are. We all have internal dialogue all the time,
especially children, and they need more context for it than
we do.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, I know that was a surprise to you.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But have you ever, either of y'all ever not won
an award that you thought I'm a shoe in for this.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, I've never expecting oh okay, I'm going to get
this one.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't think I've ever been a shoe in for anything. Honestly.
In fact, it's quite the opposite. I mean, I think
anything that I don't expect anything that I have achieved
over time as usually because I've fallen fallen down and
you know, busted my nose, not literally but figuratively speaking.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's always the you know, the hardest things. I don't,
I mean, I can the only other It's not like
I got that many awards for things anyway. I'm trying
to think back, like science fairs and stuff. I always
hoped I did, but I never thought I was going
to be a shoe in. I did get second place,
you know, in one thing that my dad actually went
up help, you know, helping me build, and I'm happy
(10:28):
about that. I did all the presentation part, but I
kind of felt a little bit guilty about getting a
second place ribbon for something that i'd only been part of.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think that go go right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But you know it's as we as we're talking about
this now, Jody, what you just said really does. It
illustrates to me the importance also of teachers and those
the teachers who really are engaged with you, and I
know that's more challenging today in today's environment. That's why
I love what today's teachers are able to do, because
to still maintained the passion with all the challenges that
(11:02):
weren't They didn't exist. There were no technological distractions and
those kind of things in the classroom other than no calculators.
But you know the fact that you know, teachers and
others were that, you know, engaged in molding me as
who I am. And I remember. The other thing about
that is my parents, like many many parents, are always
(11:27):
emphasizing just treat others well. Even when they don't treat
you well, you treat other people well. And so I
guess that's part of what you were seeing, Jody, the
citizenship part of that, maybe because I don't I've always
been that way. We joke about that from time to
time about you know, you talk about the how nice
(11:49):
I am to people at the drive through windows, and
you know, all that kind of stuff. And I think
that's where I.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Think you always had it. I think that's who you are.
You obviously. What's funny about when you first said minutes
ago about you winning that big, the big award, I'm thinking,
of course, he was already this person and you are.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
When you're born, you know, part of it is your environment,
and you're who's nurturing you and what your what roof
you live under. But it also you are who you
are when you're born. There are certain character traits that
you have when you're born, and Murphy already had some
of that, some of that little leadership obviously. So yay,
(12:29):
did you keep your plaques?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I know you did.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, that's why I came across them, and as I
was cleaning out a box the other day, and that's
what's what brought it all, you know, back to mind.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I came home to all these boxes and all this stuff,
and you rerouted some of it, didn't you reorganize it
and put it away?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Sweet?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
So for what it's worth, I hope that's a helpful
message to you know, share if you're facing some sort
of a challenge right now in your life where you
really wanted to be you know, number one, number two
it's something, and you're number three. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
You mean, if you wanted to win an oscar last
night and you didn't win.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Actually, you're right missed any part of the show.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
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