April 10, 2026 • 20 mins
Artemis II, The Masters rules, and Halloween is early!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jodi After the Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
So three of the biggest stories that we barely touched
on this week, we want to go deeper for you
right now.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
So let's start with number one.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Every day this week we were talking about Artemis two
and this incredible, crazy Dark Side of the Moon mission
that's not what they're really calling it, but anyway, being
a Pink.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Floyd album nineteen seventies.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I didn't even realize that just Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
But okay, so when we knew, we found out a
couple of I found out a couple of days ago
that they're going to come in and splash down faster
than ever before. And at first when we touched on that,
we didn't know really why. But now today we found
out why I did anyway, and we dropped it in
Three things to Know for you. This sheet, this heat
(00:47):
shield that in Artemis won, and that mission had some
unexpected cracking and shedding during re entry, causing some problems.
So NASA chose to not replace it, but not place
this shield, but to change it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Change it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Basically, change the change it trajectory, the trajectory of the angle.
I guess as what they're going to come in and
to limit the exposure of the heat to the shield,
which is why they're coming in faster.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Did I explain that right?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, okay, take over. Artemis one was unmanned. That was
their test, and when it came in, more wear and
tear on the heat shield than they thought. And that's
the same heat shield that's on Artemis two.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And we should probably explain that the reason that there's
a heat shield is when you re enter the atmosphere,
it's a lot of friction suddenly that exists and that
causes heat. So these space vehicles are built with unbelievable
protection against heat extremes we're not used to.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And this goes all the way back to Apollo. And
if you remember that, like Space Shuttle, white on top,
black on the bottom, black on the bottom, that was
where the heat shield tiles were for when it came in. Okay,
five thousand degrees is about is what it's going to hit.
And they had the choice of replacing this heat shield
on Artemis two, but it's like if we do that,
we're going to delay the program for years, not months. Years,
(02:04):
So they's like we'll leave it on, will change the
method of re entry. So that's why they're coming in
so fast, is because they're coming in at a steeper
entry to limit the time they're exposed to the heat.
And then they're going to do that skip thing I
told you all about.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, come in, explain again.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
They come in, they hit the atmosphere and skip to
slow themselves down, and then they come in the atmosphere
at a slower It's like skipping a stone on water,
you know, it slows down each time it skips. That
makes sense, that's what it's going to do. So it skips,
then they come down and come kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A worrisome story though, And I've read where there are
people there are astronauts for some people within within NASA
who are like, this is not a great plan that
they don't.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
All up Why I mean, you know, to me, if
it's a safety and quality control issue, why don't you
just delay by a couple of years. I mean, that's
the safer bet to do. What is it that? What
is it that cost extra time? Do they have to
redesign it? Is it take that long to apply it?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
The one's going forward after Artemis two, it was this
thing was already on Artemis two, but the ones going forward,
they've made them better based on the Artemis one wear
and tear. So here going forward, everything's going to be great.
I don't know what the NASSA reason was for not
replacing it. I mean to me, yeah, safety is more
important than delay.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, and I'm sure they get to work around yeah right.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm sure that they're not putting the astronauts in an
unsafe position by doing this, but there are people that
would question it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, any more danger than they're already and what they're
already doing is dangerous. It is you don't do that
without knowing the risks involved. And we were talking about
that today in the show that they when they come back,
you know what it's like if you've been at the
gym and you're sore the next day, or you just
feel wonky. They're going to feel wonky for a month
there because they've been at zero gravity. It actually forces
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you to lose like twenty percent of your muscle mass.
They're going to have problems with their vision, they're going
to have problems possibly with vertigo and things like that
for months.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
When the ship that's gonna put If you remember the
old days, you know, the capsule is in the water,
the helicopter would pick up the astronauts. Well, this is
going to be kind of like we've seen recently where
the capsule, A ship like backs up to the capsule
and they pull it onto the ship and then the
astronauts come out. They'll all be on stretchers because they
can't stand up because of the gravity.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Thing unreal.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
They get checked out, they get flown to the base,
They get checked out there, and supposedly within a few
hours they should be able to be able to stand
up again.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But they're just gonna feel weird.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But yeah, we're gonna feel weird for a while. Well,
they get on a plane and they go back to
Houston later tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think, Yes, the reason this is unusual because when
you say old days, you actually mean the old old
days because all the ways what most people, and you know,
unless you're fifty something, you don't remember. I mean, I
was like, I don't remember the Apollo days. I was
barely born when that happened.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Probably the movies though, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I mean the movies I have, but but you know,
I mean, for for almost thirty years or twenty five years,
we have the space Shuttle program, which is so you know,
so many people are familiar with astronauts leaving and coming back,
not doing the moon thing with that. But and I
guess you can't really do that. That vehicle's not designed for that.
But that's the way space exploration worked for about twenty
(05:19):
five years, was this reusable vehicle that would come in land,
just like a jet. And so that's the only reason
I bring that up is for somebody even wonder why
are they splashing into the ocean instead of coming back
the way that they used to, It's because the Shuttle.
This is not part of the Shuttle program. And are
they ever talking about doing a reusable vehicle for the
Moon or is that even possible.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I don't know. I haven't mit so.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Much to know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Even if you were sitting here and you were an astronaut,
you would have your answer was not sure about this.
Because also they don't release every little piece of information,
every little decision that they make. It's not all public record.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I'm sure Elon's got a hand in this along with NASA,
and he is a big opponent of reusing stuff because
it costs less. So I wouldn't be surprised if part
of it is going to be reused. I don't know
which parts of it will be reused.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I will.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I want to restate also, if you want to watch,
you know, the splashdown tonight is expected you know, eight
o seven Eastern, and you can watch it with NASA's
YouTube channel. You can watch it on Netflix, you can
watch it on Amazon Prime, Apple, TV, HBO Max. They're
all covering it. And then the NASA app has all
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their platforms, so it's not like you can't get away
from it, but you can find You're going to be
able to find it if you'd like to watch it.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And going back to the heat shield thing, there is
a six minute window where they lose communication. Hate that
around kind of like when I went around the back
of the moon, they lost communication for forty one minutes.
It's just you can't have it. It's planned when they land,
when they're coming down, because of the heat and the
plasma on the outside of the capsule, they can't They
don't have any communication for about six minutes, so that's
(06:58):
like six minutes of wondering. I hope it works.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And to me, the six minutes, can you imagine if
you're the family, if you're the spouse, if you're the
child of that person, of that space explorer doing something incredible.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And if you want a little reference, I mean, this
is it's Hollywood. But Apollo thirteen, that movie, Yes, in
that movie, when those guys came back to Earth, it
was the same. This has been going on forever. Whenever
you come through the atmosphere, there is a dead time.
So if you watch Apollo thirteen, you remember stip ahead
to the end of the movie where they're coming back
and it's gone, you know, and it's like, you know
(07:38):
what now you know control to Apollo thirteen, Hello, come in,
And it's as funny it comes back when you think
about how impressive it was for that time because the
technology did not exist that we have today.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
When they talk about the the power of your iPhone
today is actually more than the power of the room
full of computers that ran those first missions back in
the late sixties and early seventies. And so you talk
about risk, I mean, I just can't not that there's
any you know, any less risk of things today. But
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what we've learned, either the hard way or you know,
because of technology, we're able to predict an am aid,
make it better we know a heck of a lot
more those pioneers. I think it's important to remember what
it was that they did because it was all calculated,
you know, mechanical technical work. Very little of it was computerized.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
At all, Like you had, They needed more people.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So pulling that off at that time where they were,
where the technological age was, was to me is just
mind blowing, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And they had a deadline from Kennedy, Yeah, right, the
decade right, and they just got it in. Also, have
you ever been to the Space Center? I have not,
or even like the Smithsonian where they have one of
the capsules there and looked inside those things. It's like, kay,
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
It's tiny.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It's it's tiny, and like Murphy said, it's more mechanical
than computer and you just look at it and go, how.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Could you have put yourself into the moon. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, I mean you've got levers and buttons and you've
got things that are totally not computerized.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, you have to know, Sam, that of all people
in my life, you're the most space You're the most
spaced out, the most space enthusiastic fanatic person I've ever known.
And we've you know, we've been friends for a long time,
so my knowledge about space exploration and you're has come
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to me through your excitement and all the things you've
ever really said. Of course I was I took the
you know, I went to school and we Watcheduff, but
it never really sunk in for me, and I never
really had a passion for it.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And so you know, whatever you tell me.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
If I have a space question, you're the person I asked.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Thank you, and I.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Guess I'm sorry. I guess you'll be watching tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
It sounds like I don't have a choice.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I need to go back and look at some of
the home movies that my grandfather shot, because I don't
remember which space mission that they went to Cape I
guess they called it Cape Kennedy at that time, right,
is that, you know, Cocoa Beach and and so he's
got film footage of one of the missions taking off,
I don't know if it was Man or whatever take off. Yeahol.
(10:24):
And that they say that that is awe inspiring. I
mean I saw that from comments for people who actually
saw this Artemis mission go up, that there's nothing like
feeling the rumble of the ground and seeing it in person.
There's nothing a screen can do justice, you know, for
with that, because it's so it went impressive.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
In the mid seventies, we had a family vacation to
Disney World and you know, mo, mom, I want to
go to the Space Center. So yeah, we drove over
there and that was when Apollo Soyuz, which was the
one where we went up and the Soviets went up
and we connected in space the first time. That was
on the launch pad, the Apollo part of that, and
so we got to see that. We never saw an
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actual launch, which I've always wanted to see, but we
got to see something sitting out on the pad and
that was just really cool.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, okay, cool. Shall we move on to something else
today that we talked about? Are you are? You are?
You're too sad to let the space discussion?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Another little tidbit. I told you the astronauts they're going
to get on a plane fly back to Houston. Yes,
the capsule actually gets it. They put it on a
flatbed and they bring it back to Florida. Okay, so
I'm assuming I ten. If you know, summer vacation takes
you there, maybe you'll run into it and see it.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Somebody will post it's.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
That's another thing is that you know your grandfather watching
the launch. You know you got to watch it, maybe
you watched it on the news. But with social media
the way it is, you will be able to connect
with other people during this whole thing tonight, Like you know,
people will be online sharing it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It will be it's it'll be a virtual a viral
event too.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I mean astronauts are on social media.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I know that is cool. You guys follow Tom Hanks
at all.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
He's very into it because of his work on the
movie Apollo thirteen. He he was wishing them well when
they you know, left, and he's been all about it.
I wouldn't be surprised that he wasn't there, Oh yeah,
you know what I mean at splashdown and somebody you know,
NASA would let him in. So it's a viral you
know thing shared thing because of our connectedness now too.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And Sam, you mentioned the deadline you know from then
President Kennedy who said by the end of the decade
and he's you know, set the deadline, and there the
there are so many different management books out there that
actually use that as an example of if you set
a deadline, you create an actual outcome and action plan
you're going to you know, make It doesn't mean it
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doesn't mean that the world is It doesn't mean that
everything you set out to do is possible. Yeah, but
you know that's the only reason you think about focus
been maintained for ten years on a project and the
experimentation you know that goes with that. For one thing,
I think it's wonderful that, you know, when Kennedy passed
away in sixty three, that you still had seven years
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of everybody committed to fulfilling that dream and that proclamation
that he made. And I mean if it hadn't been
done in that way, where would we actually be today?
Would the you know what everything both privatized and you know,
NASA related, you know, be where it is today? Probably not,
because you know it was you had to push to
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do something way beyond a comfort zone with a whole
lot of unknowns. And and I just think that that's
you know, it's that's incredible, it really, I mean it
just that vision was not No one let go of
that vision for that that many years. That's what a
life president was, no.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Knowing the deadline.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And one of this will be the last thing I
say about it. One of the crazy things about it,
if you look back at the Apollo Gemini and Mercury,
really the Apollo Gemini missions, those were going off every
few months. It's not like, you know, few layears we
got a launch. It's this was like every few months,
there was a launch, so we could beat that deadline.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
So the deadlines work. I like doing that. Okay, something
a little lighter. That was that. That's been.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You know, we've talked about in Three Things to Know
today and we find it fastening.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I find it fascinating.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I've never been to the Masters, I've never been on
those grounds of Augusta National. But the rules for attendees,
it's crazy. The rules, Sam, you want to go over this,
we'll go over it again. We mentioned it in Three
Things to Know. No no metal like shoes or anything
with pointed heels, nothing with spikes to maintain the grounds
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backwards baseball caps considered a rude violation of etiquette. That's
a problem. You're not supposed to wear denim. You're not
supposed to have your shirt untucked. There's a lot of
rules for attendees.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah, no phones is always the biggest one.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
No phone. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Too.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It also means no devices like phones. You're not supposed
to even check a text message. You can't even you're
not really supposed to even wear the fitness trackers or
the smart watches, like, you're not supposed to have that.
If you have that, I guess they could take it
from you.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
You agree, Well, do.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You not have to put it in lockers when you go?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I don't know. I've never been invited.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I've never been out there either for the Masters itself,
so I don't know. If it's like the phones, keep
them in your pocket or leave them in the car.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know that you can't bring in food or concessions,
and they're known for their very affordable concessions, very affordable
concessions and sandwiches and all of that.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And even what beer is six dollars, that's cheaper than
football games.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, you cannot bring in flags or banners, signs or
a no note. And look, if you when you watch
it the coverage, there's a reason that they do all
of this. It does not look cluttered. It looks so beautiful.
That's the only thing that's the thing about it. It's
so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
What's funny is a lot of those don't bring, don't bring,
don't do, or are festival type things. You know, you
go to music festival, somebody's got flags.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah yeah, I can't do any of that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So I was just checking the cell phone thing. You
do have to check it, and if you don't check
it and you're caught using it, you'll be dismissed from
the property. Yeah, if you're pressed, you will lose your
credentials and not be able to come back. So they
do collect it. I mean, I can't imagine a rule
being in place in things not being collected up front,
but they want. They do allow cameras during practice rounds,
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but that's the only time that they that they allow.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
And by the way, that phone role applies to everyone,
because if you saw earlier this week pro Mark Calkovecia
got kicked out using his phone. He won back I
think in eighty nine at the Master's and he was there. Yeah,
they caught him using his phone and they kicked him out.
Yeah yeah, no you can't.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I mean, it doesn't matter what your role is. Policy
is a.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Policy, I know, and I like that because of the
they respect themselves, they respect their own property and event
there's only way that's that's the way to keep it.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
A tradition like that.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
And it's a standard you don't see anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I really do like to see the crowd though.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I always enjoy You might be watching the golfers and
the holes, but I love to see who's there and
what they're doing and what it's like anytime I watch
it every year.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And the whole souvenirs thing. Don't we touched on this too.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Don't even think about trying to get a souvenir, a
blade of grass, a golf ball, a sign, a flag
and sand. Don't even try.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And I want to say, unofficial souvenirs in twenty can
buy all you want.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But there was the oh yeah, the real souvenirs are
something something spectacular. But some guy tried to take a
cup and put some sand in it so he could
this is my hey. I was at the and he
was arrested and it ended. The whole ordeal from start
to finish, ended up costing him about twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
And this year too, they're having a big issue with
the resellers. When you buy a master's ticket, if you
get a mask, a patron's ticket, yeah, you're supposed to.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Use it, right.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It's not like it's an honor to have that master
where you can resell and all that. It's like if
you bought the ticket, they want you showing up. They
don't want the reselling. So they've had a lot of
folks this year this isn't your name is it? And
they check them out and then they kick them out.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
My goodness.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, so that's interesting, and I'll be thinking about those
rules about clothing and all that when I want.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, we know how strict they are personally because when
we pulled into the driveway one time just to get
a photo, the security guard came up and asked us
to leave us. Can can we take a picture?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
There was at night and you know the gates were closed.
We yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
We thought we were on the low. We thought we
were so smart.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, moving on to my other favorite story of the
week that also landed in Three Things to Know. The
home Depot already selling Halloween daycres. It's called Halfway to Halloween.
It's their drop of some oversized animated daycre like a
nine foot t.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Rex and led Night Murphy. I need to see that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't want an led night, but I want to
see it. It's just bigger, flashier displays and app controlled
animated features. The twelve foot skeleton. Skelley is getting a
tech upgrade. I don't know if he's on the floor yet,
but or you can probably order him online. You can
record and play custom voice lines from your phone, like
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you could be standing in your house sales fair part
with the app and Skelley's out there, and if it's
your neighbor, you can say something into your phone and
Skelley will say it to your neighbor.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's I love that. So these aren't leftovers from last year.
This is all new stuff there ahead of the game.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
This is one of the biggest things they've done. And
it's halfway to Halloween. It's exactly two hundred and five
days away, two hundred something days away now, and so look,
it's a big deal for them. And why not If
people do Christmas in July, why can't you do how
in April?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
True Happy Friday missed any part of the show?
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Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jodi After the Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
So three of the biggest stories that we barely touched
on this week, we want to go deeper for you
right now.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
So let's start with number one.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Every day this week we were talking about Artemis two
and this incredible, crazy Dark Side of the Moon mission
that's not what they're really calling it, but anyway, being
a Pink.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Floyd album nineteen seventies.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I didn't even realize that just Dark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
But okay, so when we knew, we found out a
couple of I found out a couple of days ago
that they're going to come in and splash down faster
than ever before. And at first when we touched on that,
we didn't know really why. But now today we found
out why I did anyway, and we dropped it in
Three things to Know for you. This sheet, this heat
(00:47):
shield that in Artemis won, and that mission had some
unexpected cracking and shedding during re entry, causing some problems.
So NASA chose to not replace it, but not place
this shield, but to change it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Change it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Basically, change the change it trajectory, the trajectory of the angle.
I guess as what they're going to come in and
to limit the exposure of the heat to the shield,
which is why they're coming in faster.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Did I explain that right?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Yeah, okay, take over. Artemis one was unmanned. That was
their test, and when it came in, more wear and
tear on the heat shield than they thought. And that's
the same heat shield that's on Artemis two.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And we should probably explain that the reason that there's
a heat shield is when you re enter the atmosphere,
it's a lot of friction suddenly that exists and that
causes heat. So these space vehicles are built with unbelievable
protection against heat extremes we're not used to.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And this goes all the way back to Apollo. And
if you remember that, like Space Shuttle, white on top,
black on the bottom, black on the bottom, that was
where the heat shield tiles were for when it came in. Okay,
five thousand degrees is about is what it's going to hit.
And they had the choice of replacing this heat shield
on Artemis two, but it's like if we do that,
we're going to delay the program for years, not months. Years,
(02:04):
So they's like we'll leave it on, will change the
method of re entry. So that's why they're coming in
so fast, is because they're coming in at a steeper
entry to limit the time they're exposed to the heat.
And then they're going to do that skip thing I
told you all about.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, come in, explain again.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
They come in, they hit the atmosphere and skip to
slow themselves down, and then they come in the atmosphere
at a slower It's like skipping a stone on water,
you know, it slows down each time it skips. That
makes sense, that's what it's going to do. So it skips,
then they come down and come kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A worrisome story though, And I've read where there are
people there are astronauts for some people within within NASA
who are like, this is not a great plan that
they don't.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
All up Why I mean, you know, to me, if
it's a safety and quality control issue, why don't you
just delay by a couple of years. I mean, that's
the safer bet to do. What is it that? What
is it that cost extra time? Do they have to
redesign it? Is it take that long to apply it?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
The one's going forward after Artemis two, it was this
thing was already on Artemis two, but the ones going forward,
they've made them better based on the Artemis one wear
and tear. So here going forward, everything's going to be great.
I don't know what the NASSA reason was for not
replacing it. I mean to me, yeah, safety is more
important than delay.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, and I'm sure they get to work around yeah right.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm sure that they're not putting the astronauts in an
unsafe position by doing this, but there are people that
would question it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, any more danger than they're already and what they're
already doing is dangerous. It is you don't do that
without knowing the risks involved. And we were talking about
that today in the show that they when they come back,
you know what it's like if you've been at the
gym and you're sore the next day, or you just
feel wonky. They're going to feel wonky for a month
there because they've been at zero gravity. It actually forces
(03:58):
you to lose like twenty percent of your muscle mass.
They're going to have problems with their vision, they're going
to have problems possibly with vertigo and things like that
for months.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
When the ship that's gonna put If you remember the
old days, you know, the capsule is in the water,
the helicopter would pick up the astronauts. Well, this is
going to be kind of like we've seen recently where
the capsule, A ship like backs up to the capsule
and they pull it onto the ship and then the
astronauts come out. They'll all be on stretchers because they
can't stand up because of the gravity.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Thing unreal.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
They get checked out, they get flown to the base,
They get checked out there, and supposedly within a few
hours they should be able to be able to stand
up again.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But they're just gonna feel weird.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But yeah, we're gonna feel weird for a while. Well,
they get on a plane and they go back to
Houston later tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think, Yes, the reason this is unusual because when
you say old days, you actually mean the old old
days because all the ways what most people, and you know,
unless you're fifty something, you don't remember. I mean, I
was like, I don't remember the Apollo days. I was
barely born when that happened.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Probably the movies though, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I mean the movies I have, but but you know,
I mean, for for almost thirty years or twenty five years,
we have the space Shuttle program, which is so you know,
so many people are familiar with astronauts leaving and coming back,
not doing the moon thing with that. But and I
guess you can't really do that. That vehicle's not designed for that.
But that's the way space exploration worked for about twenty
(05:19):
five years, was this reusable vehicle that would come in land,
just like a jet. And so that's the only reason
I bring that up is for somebody even wonder why
are they splashing into the ocean instead of coming back
the way that they used to, It's because the Shuttle.
This is not part of the Shuttle program. And are
they ever talking about doing a reusable vehicle for the
Moon or is that even possible.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I don't know. I haven't mit so.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Much to know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Even if you were sitting here and you were an astronaut,
you would have your answer was not sure about this.
Because also they don't release every little piece of information,
every little decision that they make. It's not all public record.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I'm sure Elon's got a hand in this along with NASA,
and he is a big opponent of reusing stuff because
it costs less. So I wouldn't be surprised if part
of it is going to be reused. I don't know
which parts of it will be reused.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I will.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I want to restate also, if you want to watch,
you know, the splashdown tonight is expected you know, eight
o seven Eastern, and you can watch it with NASA's
YouTube channel. You can watch it on Netflix, you can
watch it on Amazon Prime, Apple, TV, HBO Max. They're
all covering it. And then the NASA app has all
(06:30):
their platforms, so it's not like you can't get away
from it, but you can find You're going to be
able to find it if you'd like to watch it.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And going back to the heat shield thing, there is
a six minute window where they lose communication. Hate that
around kind of like when I went around the back
of the moon, they lost communication for forty one minutes.
It's just you can't have it. It's planned when they land,
when they're coming down, because of the heat and the
plasma on the outside of the capsule, they can't They
don't have any communication for about six minutes, so that's
(06:58):
like six minutes of wondering. I hope it works.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And to me, the six minutes, can you imagine if
you're the family, if you're the spouse, if you're the
child of that person, of that space explorer doing something incredible.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And if you want a little reference, I mean, this
is it's Hollywood. But Apollo thirteen, that movie, Yes, in
that movie, when those guys came back to Earth, it
was the same. This has been going on forever. Whenever
you come through the atmosphere, there is a dead time.
So if you watch Apollo thirteen, you remember stip ahead
to the end of the movie where they're coming back
and it's gone, you know, and it's like, you know
(07:38):
what now you know control to Apollo thirteen, Hello, come in,
And it's as funny it comes back when you think
about how impressive it was for that time because the
technology did not exist that we have today.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
When they talk about the the power of your iPhone
today is actually more than the power of the room
full of computers that ran those first missions back in
the late sixties and early seventies. And so you talk
about risk, I mean, I just can't not that there's
any you know, any less risk of things today. But
(08:13):
what we've learned, either the hard way or you know,
because of technology, we're able to predict an am aid,
make it better we know a heck of a lot
more those pioneers. I think it's important to remember what
it was that they did because it was all calculated,
you know, mechanical technical work. Very little of it was computerized.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
At all, Like you had, They needed more people.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So pulling that off at that time where they were,
where the technological age was, was to me is just
mind blowing, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And they had a deadline from Kennedy, Yeah, right, the
decade right, and they just got it in. Also, have
you ever been to the Space Center? I have not,
or even like the Smithsonian where they have one of
the capsules there and looked inside those things. It's like, kay,
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
It's tiny.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It's it's tiny, and like Murphy said, it's more mechanical
than computer and you just look at it and go, how.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Could you have put yourself into the moon. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, I mean you've got levers and buttons and you've
got things that are totally not computerized.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, you have to know, Sam, that of all people
in my life, you're the most space You're the most
spaced out, the most space enthusiastic fanatic person I've ever known.
And we've you know, we've been friends for a long time,
so my knowledge about space exploration and you're has come
(09:37):
to me through your excitement and all the things you've
ever really said. Of course I was I took the
you know, I went to school and we Watcheduff, but
it never really sunk in for me, and I never
really had a passion for it.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And so you know, whatever you tell me.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
If I have a space question, you're the person I asked.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Thank you, and I.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Guess I'm sorry. I guess you'll be watching tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
It sounds like I don't have a choice.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I need to go back and look at some of
the home movies that my grandfather shot, because I don't
remember which space mission that they went to Cape I
guess they called it Cape Kennedy at that time, right,
is that, you know, Cocoa Beach and and so he's
got film footage of one of the missions taking off,
I don't know if it was Man or whatever take off. Yeahol.
(10:24):
And that they say that that is awe inspiring. I
mean I saw that from comments for people who actually
saw this Artemis mission go up, that there's nothing like
feeling the rumble of the ground and seeing it in person.
There's nothing a screen can do justice, you know, for
with that, because it's so it went impressive.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
In the mid seventies, we had a family vacation to
Disney World and you know, mo, mom, I want to
go to the Space Center. So yeah, we drove over
there and that was when Apollo Soyuz, which was the
one where we went up and the Soviets went up
and we connected in space the first time. That was
on the launch pad, the Apollo part of that, and
so we got to see that. We never saw an
(11:04):
actual launch, which I've always wanted to see, but we
got to see something sitting out on the pad and
that was just really cool.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, okay, cool. Shall we move on to something else
today that we talked about? Are you are? You are?
You're too sad to let the space discussion?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Another little tidbit. I told you the astronauts they're going
to get on a plane fly back to Houston. Yes,
the capsule actually gets it. They put it on a
flatbed and they bring it back to Florida. Okay, so
I'm assuming I ten. If you know, summer vacation takes
you there, maybe you'll run into it and see it.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Somebody will post it's.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
That's another thing is that you know your grandfather watching
the launch. You know you got to watch it, maybe
you watched it on the news. But with social media
the way it is, you will be able to connect
with other people during this whole thing tonight, Like you know,
people will be online sharing it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It will be it's it'll be a virtual a viral
event too.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I mean astronauts are on social media.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I know that is cool. You guys follow Tom Hanks
at all.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
He's very into it because of his work on the
movie Apollo thirteen. He he was wishing them well when
they you know, left, and he's been all about it.
I wouldn't be surprised that he wasn't there, Oh yeah,
you know what I mean at splashdown and somebody you know,
NASA would let him in. So it's a viral you
know thing shared thing because of our connectedness now too.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And Sam, you mentioned the deadline you know from then
President Kennedy who said by the end of the decade
and he's you know, set the deadline, and there the
there are so many different management books out there that
actually use that as an example of if you set
a deadline, you create an actual outcome and action plan
you're going to you know, make It doesn't mean it
(12:51):
doesn't mean that the world is It doesn't mean that
everything you set out to do is possible. Yeah, but
you know that's the only reason you think about focus
been maintained for ten years on a project and the
experimentation you know that goes with that. For one thing,
I think it's wonderful that, you know, when Kennedy passed
away in sixty three, that you still had seven years
(13:13):
of everybody committed to fulfilling that dream and that proclamation
that he made. And I mean if it hadn't been
done in that way, where would we actually be today?
Would the you know what everything both privatized and you know,
NASA related, you know, be where it is today? Probably not,
because you know it was you had to push to
(13:36):
do something way beyond a comfort zone with a whole
lot of unknowns. And and I just think that that's
you know, it's that's incredible, it really, I mean it
just that vision was not No one let go of
that vision for that that many years. That's what a
life president was, no.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Knowing the deadline.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And one of this will be the last thing I
say about it. One of the crazy things about it,
if you look back at the Apollo Gemini and Mercury,
really the Apollo Gemini missions, those were going off every
few months. It's not like, you know, few layears we
got a launch. It's this was like every few months,
there was a launch, so we could beat that deadline.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
So the deadlines work. I like doing that. Okay, something
a little lighter. That was that. That's been.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You know, we've talked about in Three Things to Know
today and we find it fastening.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I find it fascinating.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I've never been to the Masters, I've never been on
those grounds of Augusta National. But the rules for attendees,
it's crazy. The rules, Sam, you want to go over this,
we'll go over it again. We mentioned it in Three
Things to Know. No no metal like shoes or anything
with pointed heels, nothing with spikes to maintain the grounds
(14:44):
backwards baseball caps considered a rude violation of etiquette. That's
a problem. You're not supposed to wear denim. You're not
supposed to have your shirt untucked. There's a lot of
rules for attendees.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah, no phones is always the biggest one.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
No phone. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Too.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It also means no devices like phones. You're not supposed
to even check a text message. You can't even you're
not really supposed to even wear the fitness trackers or
the smart watches, like, you're not supposed to have that.
If you have that, I guess they could take it
from you.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
You agree, Well, do.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You not have to put it in lockers when you go?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I don't know. I've never been invited.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I've never been out there either for the Masters itself,
so I don't know. If it's like the phones, keep
them in your pocket or leave them in the car.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know that you can't bring in food or concessions,
and they're known for their very affordable concessions, very affordable
concessions and sandwiches and all of that.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And even what beer is six dollars, that's cheaper than
football games.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, you cannot bring in flags or banners, signs or
a no note. And look, if you when you watch
it the coverage, there's a reason that they do all
of this. It does not look cluttered. It looks so beautiful.
That's the only thing that's the thing about it. It's
so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
What's funny is a lot of those don't bring, don't bring,
don't do, or are festival type things. You know, you
go to music festival, somebody's got flags.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah yeah, I can't do any of that.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So I was just checking the cell phone thing. You
do have to check it, and if you don't check
it and you're caught using it, you'll be dismissed from
the property. Yeah, if you're pressed, you will lose your
credentials and not be able to come back. So they
do collect it. I mean, I can't imagine a rule
being in place in things not being collected up front,
but they want. They do allow cameras during practice rounds,
(16:32):
but that's the only time that they that they allow.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
And by the way, that phone role applies to everyone,
because if you saw earlier this week pro Mark Calkovecia
got kicked out using his phone. He won back I
think in eighty nine at the Master's and he was there. Yeah,
they caught him using his phone and they kicked him out.
Yeah yeah, no you can't.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I mean, it doesn't matter what your role is. Policy
is a.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Policy, I know, and I like that because of the
they respect themselves, they respect their own property and event
there's only way that's that's the way to keep it.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
A tradition like that.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
And it's a standard you don't see anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I really do like to see the crowd though.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I always enjoy You might be watching the golfers and
the holes, but I love to see who's there and
what they're doing and what it's like anytime I watch
it every year.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And the whole souvenirs thing. Don't we touched on this too.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Don't even think about trying to get a souvenir, a
blade of grass, a golf ball, a sign, a flag
and sand. Don't even try.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And I want to say, unofficial souvenirs in twenty can
buy all you want.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But there was the oh yeah, the real souvenirs are
something something spectacular. But some guy tried to take a
cup and put some sand in it so he could
this is my hey. I was at the and he
was arrested and it ended. The whole ordeal from start
to finish, ended up costing him about twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
And this year too, they're having a big issue with
the resellers. When you buy a master's ticket, if you
get a mask, a patron's ticket, yeah, you're supposed to.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Use it, right.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It's not like it's an honor to have that master
where you can resell and all that. It's like if
you bought the ticket, they want you showing up. They
don't want the reselling. So they've had a lot of
folks this year this isn't your name is it? And
they check them out and then they kick them out.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
My goodness.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, so that's interesting, and I'll be thinking about those
rules about clothing and all that when I want.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, we know how strict they are personally because when
we pulled into the driveway one time just to get
a photo, the security guard came up and asked us
to leave us. Can can we take a picture?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
There was at night and you know the gates were closed.
We yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
We thought we were on the low. We thought we
were so smart.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, moving on to my other favorite story of the
week that also landed in Three Things to Know. The
home Depot already selling Halloween daycres. It's called Halfway to Halloween.
It's their drop of some oversized animated daycre like a
nine foot t.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Rex and led Night Murphy. I need to see that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't want an led night, but I want to
see it. It's just bigger, flashier displays and app controlled
animated features. The twelve foot skeleton. Skelley is getting a
tech upgrade. I don't know if he's on the floor yet,
but or you can probably order him online. You can
record and play custom voice lines from your phone, like
(19:25):
you could be standing in your house sales fair part
with the app and Skelley's out there, and if it's
your neighbor, you can say something into your phone and
Skelley will say it to your neighbor.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's I love that. So these aren't leftovers from last year.
This is all new stuff there ahead of the game.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
This is one of the biggest things they've done. And
it's halfway to Halloween. It's exactly two hundred and five
days away, two hundred something days away now, and so look,
it's a big deal for them. And why not If
people do Christmas in July, why can't you do how
in April?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
True Happy Friday missed any part of the show?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
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