June 18, 2019 • 9 mins
Here's how Sam finally got his daughter to hold baby Hollis. ❤
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Murphy Sam and Jody. After the show podcast,
we're to hang out a little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, and we talk a little bit more, a little
bit more in depth. Sam, I noticed that you posted
and we haven't talked yet about it. So here it
is get personal that your daughter, Mattie finally held Hollis,
your grandson.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah, and so she's been sort of.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Yeah, she never, she never. A few times that we've
been over there, she didn't want to hold him because
she's afraid that as soon as she gets him, he's
gonna start crying. And she doesn't want to be the reason.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Not all people are baby people.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Now, before we went over there on Father's Day, it
was just gonna be me and her, and she told
me on the drive over, I want to hold Hollis today.
Nice and so I was like, yeah, I didn't go.
I was like, oh good, hell, you know they'll like that.
That's great.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Tempered it a little digch.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
So you know, everybody was passing him around since it
was a lot of the fathers were there, and when
we finally got our turn, it's so funny to pass
the baby around. Yeah, like, can I have him?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Now?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We were sitting on the chair together Maddie and I
and she goes, can I hold him down? It's like,
so she held him and she had him quiet for
a while, and then when he started that, she's like,
she sat him up and moved him here and moved
him there and tried.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
And so she's just a little freaked out by it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
But she had fun playing with one of his toys
about him so nice.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, don't you remember to be in that way the
first time you ever held a baby, because and especially
if you're younger, you're you're just worried about doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hey, I've never done this before. I remember even when
my uh my sister was the first in the family
to have children and I was an adult by then.
I'm like, the first time I held my nephew, I
was a little bit nervous about it, you know, Yeah, Okay,
this isn't mine, and I want to make sure I'm
over here on the carpet.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well, it's funny because even though I've had five children,
it's been a while, yes, And so the first time
I got to hold Hollis, I was just like, like
Murphy said, even though I've held kids and babies before, it,
but it's like, this one's not mine. I'm not going
to drop this one. There is a not that I
dropped mine.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
There's the nicest comfortable e as you get into with
yours that and it's it shows you, I think you're
just human respect when you, you know, kind of treat
with extra care a new baby and someone else's baby.
So she's right in all of her approach. She Maddie
reminds me of our Phoebe and they're close to the
(02:18):
same age. It's funny because Phoebe is that same way
methodical about things. Maybe that's not the right word, but
if she wants to do something, she doesn't just jump in.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
She'll think about it for a while.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It sounds like Maddie thought about it for a while
and just built herself up and does things when she's ready, right,
And that's that's who Phoebe is.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes, just the opposite of her twin Parker. I mean,
the first time Jackson and then now Maddie. You know,
they got to think about it, got to get it right,
put that little boppy thing or whatever to have everything. Parker,
it's just like give me the baby. You give it
and then he's like slinging him around. It's like, oh,
Parker's gonna drop Hollis.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, are you like Jody, The first time that you
held a baby like that?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But the first baby I held was my cousin Alan,
who's almost seven feet tall.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I was ten years old when he was born. I
remember that well, and that's how I remember his age easily.
I was ten and he was born, and he was
a big deal because he was the first baby in
a long time in the family, right, and my mom
baby sat him. I will never forget coming home from school,
walking in, getting off the bus, and there was all
of a sudden a bacinette in the middle of the
(03:29):
living room. Okay, and I'm a painter a picture, you know.
It's a country sort of house, and there's a there's
brown paneling, and then this beautiful white bacinet in the
middle of the room.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Mama, where does this come from?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
These little noises like yeah, old, yeah, little noises. And
my mom was on cloud nine to have a baby
in her arms again and in her care again. And
this was just probably one day, one afternoon she got
to babysit. Everything was about Alan then, and I sat
down on the sofa and they ended him to me.
And I know this, I remember it vividly because someone
(04:03):
took pictures, so in going the in the years, through
the years, we have those pictures. I probably did exactly
as my mom told me, sit down, be still, I'll
hand him to you, and that's all. But after that,
I never really babysat anything like that. So I was
not that girl, that baby comfortable girl.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And when when.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Taylor was born, our first child was born, it was immediate.
I was ready immediately. I knew what to do. You
hear that, you you instinctively will know. I became a
mother the day she came into the world, and I
never had any awkwardness with it. And to this day,
if you brought Hollison here, I'd be like, give me
the baby. I know what to do. So natural, so natural.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I remember you remember how worried I was, you know
when Taylor.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Was born, being you know, well safety mind.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
The right dad, Yeah exactly. But but even that, you know,
way when you hold the b baby like make her dizzy, right, Yeah,
you know I it came a lot more naturally to
me than I thought. But again, like you said, it's
it's your child. That makes it easy. It's the caution thing.
You're just trying to be so careful, right right. It's
(05:17):
funny and I'm still that way with you know, with
anybody's baby, but now because ours are grown. Now, when
I do get to hold someone else's baby for the
first time, it's that natural. It's just it's pretty awesome
to hold it on again, and.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You understand how wonderful it is. When you're a young person.
You don't understand why adults go crazy over babies, but
it is such a precious thing and it's fleeting there.
He's grown so much already, right Sam, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And so much when you first hold him, you know,
and he has no neck control or any of that.
And as to now where it's like he sits up
and everything's into control. It's it's yeah, you're just back
and forth, armed arm it's just like he's your own baby,
and it does come natural.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Back to you, and thank goodness, it does. One interesting
thing that my mother mentioned when Taylor was born and
she was at the house and I was, you know,
home from eternity to leave, and she was we were
just talking one day and she was helping me and
teaching me some things, you know, she said, it's so
interesting to her, just an observation that, you know, animals
will come into the world like baby think of baby
(06:18):
kittens or a baby deer or something like that. They
come into the world with some ability to take care
of themselves, walk, They can raise their heads.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Humans don't.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They come into this world one hundred and ten percent
dependent on their caregivers. Yeah, they can't lift their heads.
It's so it's interesting. We have all these you know,
as far as the species go, advantages and all these things,
but when we come in one dependent on help. That's
another reason that adults who are not baby people approach
(06:48):
them so delicately.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah. Yeah, because you get you realize what a kind
of an awesome responsibility meaning big oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
When you're first doing it what you're for a new parent,
you're like, oh my gosh, this is exhausting just keeping
this thing alive and fed and clean.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's exhausting, you know what it is too? Now I
find it's it's somewhat a pride issue too with me.
I want I want to be able to stop him
when he cries. Yes, you know, it's like, okay, now
I want to be able. Okay, crying this way, Let's
shift him over here, Let's play with him. You feel like, okay,
(07:25):
I know how to do this. Let me prove that
I know how to do this.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, and you do.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
As you know. Sometimes it isn't about the position or
comfort or whatever, and sometimes they just it's just what
they did.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Ye, poopy diaper.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Do you remember that afternoon, Murphy? I will never forget
the afternoon? Well, there were a lot of them when
you would come home from work. And we had two kids.
Taylor was like three, Phoebe was newborn, and since we
had done it before, she was having one of her
crying you know fits in the afternoon, Phoebe, And since
(08:03):
it was our second child, we just knew this was
part of it. She'll calm down later and everything will
be normal. But the you know, when Taylor used to
do it, she's being our first. It was just horrifying
to us. We were just in it. What do we
do it while she was like that? And when I
remember you walking through the door, I'm standing there just
doing what all the little things I would try, like
(08:23):
swaying with her, turning her on her stomach, patting her back.
I was doing all the things to try to get
her to stop. But you walked in and I was
just like, it's five o'clock. You know, it's what it is.
It's what it is, and by five thirty or five
forty this will be over. And it was second time around.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
You just know that what you're saying there is kind
of really the only advice that I gave because nice
you know when when when Hollis was born, everybody's like, well,
you got to do this. He needs to have his
back pad, he needs to have. My advice was the
way I handled it was that way. You know it's
going to end. Not to compartmentalize, but it's like, it's
(09:00):
not the end of the world. You're gonna figure it out.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
This will change.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, you know that the neck and head it's only
for a short time and then it'll be the next thing,
and then it'll be the next thing. And just be
patient because it's it's it's all going to advance to
the next age. When they get up and cry at night,
there only could be awake for an hour. Yeah, on
a you know, on a normal cry, you feed them,
you change them, you put them back to bed. Don't
get all bent out of shape about it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's why it overwhelmed some new parents, because you think
this is my new life forever, this is the next
eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Of course, it's not right.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
It's only about sixteen years.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Missed any part of the show. Get it All at
Murphy Salmon Jody dot com.
It's the Murphy Sam and Jody. After the show podcast,
we're to hang out a little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, and we talk a little bit more, a little
bit more in depth. Sam, I noticed that you posted
and we haven't talked yet about it. So here it
is get personal that your daughter, Mattie finally held Hollis,
your grandson.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah, and so she's been sort of.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Yeah, she never, she never. A few times that we've
been over there, she didn't want to hold him because
she's afraid that as soon as she gets him, he's
gonna start crying. And she doesn't want to be the reason.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Not all people are baby people.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Now, before we went over there on Father's Day, it
was just gonna be me and her, and she told
me on the drive over, I want to hold Hollis today.
Nice and so I was like, yeah, I didn't go.
I was like, oh good, hell, you know they'll like that.
That's great.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Tempered it a little digch.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
So you know, everybody was passing him around since it
was a lot of the fathers were there, and when
we finally got our turn, it's so funny to pass
the baby around. Yeah, like, can I have him?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Now?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We were sitting on the chair together Maddie and I
and she goes, can I hold him down? It's like,
so she held him and she had him quiet for
a while, and then when he started that, she's like,
she sat him up and moved him here and moved
him there and tried.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
And so she's just a little freaked out by it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
But she had fun playing with one of his toys
about him so nice.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, don't you remember to be in that way the
first time you ever held a baby, because and especially
if you're younger, you're you're just worried about doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hey, I've never done this before. I remember even when
my uh my sister was the first in the family
to have children and I was an adult by then.
I'm like, the first time I held my nephew, I
was a little bit nervous about it, you know, Yeah, Okay,
this isn't mine, and I want to make sure I'm
over here on the carpet.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well, it's funny because even though I've had five children,
it's been a while, yes, And so the first time
I got to hold Hollis, I was just like, like
Murphy said, even though I've held kids and babies before, it,
but it's like, this one's not mine. I'm not going
to drop this one. There is a not that I
dropped mine.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
There's the nicest comfortable e as you get into with
yours that and it's it shows you, I think you're
just human respect when you, you know, kind of treat
with extra care a new baby and someone else's baby.
So she's right in all of her approach. She Maddie
reminds me of our Phoebe and they're close to the
(02:18):
same age. It's funny because Phoebe is that same way
methodical about things. Maybe that's not the right word, but
if she wants to do something, she doesn't just jump in.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
She'll think about it for a while.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It sounds like Maddie thought about it for a while
and just built herself up and does things when she's ready, right,
And that's that's who Phoebe is.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes, just the opposite of her twin Parker. I mean,
the first time Jackson and then now Maddie. You know,
they got to think about it, got to get it right,
put that little boppy thing or whatever to have everything. Parker,
it's just like give me the baby. You give it
and then he's like slinging him around. It's like, oh,
Parker's gonna drop Hollis.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, are you like Jody, The first time that you
held a baby like that?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But the first baby I held was my cousin Alan,
who's almost seven feet tall.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I was ten years old when he was born. I
remember that well, and that's how I remember his age easily.
I was ten and he was born, and he was
a big deal because he was the first baby in
a long time in the family, right, and my mom
baby sat him. I will never forget coming home from school,
walking in, getting off the bus, and there was all
of a sudden a bacinette in the middle of the
(03:29):
living room. Okay, and I'm a painter a picture, you know.
It's a country sort of house, and there's a there's
brown paneling, and then this beautiful white bacinet in the
middle of the room.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Mama, where does this come from?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
These little noises like yeah, old, yeah, little noises. And
my mom was on cloud nine to have a baby
in her arms again and in her care again. And
this was just probably one day, one afternoon she got
to babysit. Everything was about Alan then, and I sat
down on the sofa and they ended him to me.
And I know this, I remember it vividly because someone
(04:03):
took pictures, so in going the in the years, through
the years, we have those pictures. I probably did exactly
as my mom told me, sit down, be still, I'll
hand him to you, and that's all. But after that,
I never really babysat anything like that. So I was
not that girl, that baby comfortable girl.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And when when.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Taylor was born, our first child was born, it was immediate.
I was ready immediately. I knew what to do. You
hear that, you you instinctively will know. I became a
mother the day she came into the world, and I
never had any awkwardness with it. And to this day,
if you brought Hollison here, I'd be like, give me
the baby. I know what to do. So natural, so natural.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I remember you remember how worried I was, you know
when Taylor.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Was born, being you know, well safety mind.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
The right dad, Yeah exactly. But but even that, you know,
way when you hold the b baby like make her dizzy, right, Yeah,
you know I it came a lot more naturally to
me than I thought. But again, like you said, it's
it's your child. That makes it easy. It's the caution thing.
You're just trying to be so careful, right right. It's
(05:17):
funny and I'm still that way with you know, with
anybody's baby, but now because ours are grown. Now, when
I do get to hold someone else's baby for the
first time, it's that natural. It's just it's pretty awesome
to hold it on again, and.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You understand how wonderful it is. When you're a young person.
You don't understand why adults go crazy over babies, but
it is such a precious thing and it's fleeting there.
He's grown so much already, right Sam, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
And so much when you first hold him, you know,
and he has no neck control or any of that.
And as to now where it's like he sits up
and everything's into control. It's it's yeah, you're just back
and forth, armed arm it's just like he's your own baby,
and it does come natural.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Back to you, and thank goodness, it does. One interesting
thing that my mother mentioned when Taylor was born and
she was at the house and I was, you know,
home from eternity to leave, and she was we were
just talking one day and she was helping me and
teaching me some things, you know, she said, it's so
interesting to her, just an observation that, you know, animals
will come into the world like baby think of baby
(06:18):
kittens or a baby deer or something like that. They
come into the world with some ability to take care
of themselves, walk, They can raise their heads.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Humans don't.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They come into this world one hundred and ten percent
dependent on their caregivers. Yeah, they can't lift their heads.
It's so it's interesting. We have all these you know,
as far as the species go, advantages and all these things,
but when we come in one dependent on help. That's
another reason that adults who are not baby people approach
(06:48):
them so delicately.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah. Yeah, because you get you realize what a kind
of an awesome responsibility meaning big oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
When you're first doing it what you're for a new parent,
you're like, oh my gosh, this is exhausting just keeping
this thing alive and fed and clean.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's exhausting, you know what it is too? Now I
find it's it's somewhat a pride issue too with me.
I want I want to be able to stop him
when he cries. Yes, you know, it's like, okay, now
I want to be able. Okay, crying this way, Let's
shift him over here, Let's play with him. You feel like, okay,
(07:25):
I know how to do this. Let me prove that
I know how to do this.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, and you do.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
As you know. Sometimes it isn't about the position or
comfort or whatever, and sometimes they just it's just what
they did.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Ye, poopy diaper.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Do you remember that afternoon, Murphy? I will never forget
the afternoon? Well, there were a lot of them when
you would come home from work. And we had two kids.
Taylor was like three, Phoebe was newborn, and since we
had done it before, she was having one of her
crying you know fits in the afternoon, Phoebe, And since
(08:03):
it was our second child, we just knew this was
part of it. She'll calm down later and everything will
be normal. But the you know, when Taylor used to
do it, she's being our first. It was just horrifying
to us. We were just in it. What do we
do it while she was like that? And when I
remember you walking through the door, I'm standing there just
doing what all the little things I would try, like
(08:23):
swaying with her, turning her on her stomach, patting her back.
I was doing all the things to try to get
her to stop. But you walked in and I was
just like, it's five o'clock. You know, it's what it is.
It's what it is, and by five thirty or five
forty this will be over. And it was second time around.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
You just know that what you're saying there is kind
of really the only advice that I gave because nice
you know when when when Hollis was born, everybody's like, well,
you got to do this. He needs to have his
back pad, he needs to have. My advice was the
way I handled it was that way. You know it's
going to end. Not to compartmentalize, but it's like, it's
(09:00):
not the end of the world. You're gonna figure it out.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
This will change.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, you know that the neck and head it's only
for a short time and then it'll be the next thing,
and then it'll be the next thing. And just be
patient because it's it's it's all going to advance to
the next age. When they get up and cry at night,
there only could be awake for an hour. Yeah, on
a you know, on a normal cry, you feed them,
you change them, you put them back to bed. Don't
get all bent out of shape about it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's why it overwhelmed some new parents, because you think
this is my new life forever, this is the next
eighteen years.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Of course, it's not right.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
It's only about sixteen years.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Missed any part of the show. Get it All at
Murphy Salmon Jody dot com.
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