June 24, 2026 • 9 mins
Jodi opens up again about the serious anxiety that hit her after her mom's surgery, and the heartfelt flood of support that's helped her start feeling better. The gang shares grounding tricks listeners sent in — from the 3-3-3 method to sour candy, worry rocks, and the power of deep breathing. It's a warm, honest reminder that even extraordinary people deal with anxiety, and talking about it really does help.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Murphy Sam and Jody After the Show podcast,
where we hang out a little bit longer. And by
the way, so if you're listening to this podcast, you
may want to go take a peek at our YouTube
version of the podcast because you'll see how loud the
shirts are Jody and Sam are wearing. Sam is in
this bright orange golf type shirt. Jody is actually in
something that's more subdued. Red's copy read, yeah, it looks
(00:22):
beautiful on you and matches your lipstick, or your lipstick matches.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
My lipstick matches the blouse. But yeah, you're on the
right track.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So go see it on YouTube, and if it's not
going to take away from the podcast, you can keep listening.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I want to do this right here, something very personal.
I want to say thank you to everybody who has
reached out about the After the Show podcast. We did
a couple of days ago about my anxiety because it
was something that I have been dealing with over the.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Now, we've all dealt with anxiety in our lives, but
I had some serious anxiety hit me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, your mom's surgery was certainly a big catalyst.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It was, but after her surgery and I knew she
was home. Was when I started really having it, just
out of the blue, in the car or sitting at
my desk, just I never could I never knew when
it was coming, and it was crippling. I mean it
was just it would stop me, I would my breath,
I would have to stop and take a breath, and
(01:20):
it's a horrible feeling. And so we just talked about it,
and the response from you online has been so beautiful.
I wanted to say thank you and talking about it
since that day, since talking about it, I did have
a little about with it the very next day. But
I want to say it's getting better, it's lightening up
(01:40):
a bit. And I did try the three three three
method that we had talked about during that podcast of
when it hits you, it's something to keep you in
the present and to get you out of your head
with the what if scenarios or whatever's happening to you,
and that's you. You know we talked about it. You
look at three things, you listen for three things around you,
(02:02):
and then you move three things.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Move three things. That's the one I keep forgetting. I smell, yeah,
And it was crazy. I was trying to use that
to relieve anxiety, and I got stressed out. I couldn't
remember the third thing, Well, did it work?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It means wiggle your shoulders sort of. It's a lot
of little things to remember. What what's really working for
me when it happens is breathing and self talk.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That's good. I'm a big I mean that's really Look,
the breathing is that, and we've talked about that. You know,
it's it calms the vagus nerve, which is what it's called.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
For.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Anyone that doesn't know that the breathing thing is cliche
as it sounds, it's not really cliche. It is scientific
that when you slow your breathing, your body responds to it.
It's it is.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The basis of yoga is breath.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
The first thing that you have to get right for
a yoga post to be correct is the breath. Anyway,
we have some of these, some of these messages rolling
in to Murphy, Samon, Jody dot and on our social
media pages that are so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I really want to share them.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
First of all, Dahlia sent an email, Hey guys, love
listening to you as part of my daily routine. This
message is for Jody and has to do with the
anxiety you've been feeling recently. To help ease and anxiety attack,
another great option aside from the breathing technique, is having
some sour candy around. This can help your body by
distracting your nervous system because you've just been shocked by
(03:27):
the sourness interesting. It won't fix the anxiety, but it
gives you a quick reset so you can continue driving safely.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
She heard that it happened to me in the car.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Try finding a small rock while you're out on a
walk and keep it in your purse or car. When
you feel it coming again, hold that rock and start
feeling all the edges. Use your nail to scratch and
tap it as long as you're not driving. Also look
at it and describe the texture and think back to
when and where you found it. No rocks around, Grab
your house keys and do the same. Just some helpful
(04:01):
grounding techniques that I give my clients who are going
through anxiety panic attacks.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
PS. Murphy is most likely correct.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
When he said it might be stemming from an unfinished task.
You may not be outright thinking about your subconscious feels
that your mom is not fully out of the woods
yet until she's up and running like her usual self.
When it comes to your parents, we come to a
realization that they're becoming fragile and that does not sit
well with our soul.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I'm seeing a lot of changes in her, maybe more
than I've ever in my life, and she's always been.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
In my life. Take everything day by day. This is
more from Dahlia.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Take everything day by day, and please speak with someone
about what you're feeling and going through. Family and friends
are great, but sometimes an outside ear and fresh perspective
is what we need. Praying for you and your mom,
and thank you guys for all that you do. You
may not realize it, but you are part of my
therapy as well. I listen in the car and I
feel like I'm in my living room with friends, just
(05:02):
catching up and laughing. Sometimes I need that, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's beautiful, Dahlia, Thank you. And what that's just great
advice too. I've never heard about the the I mean,
I know I had a worry stone one time. That's
what those things are for, but I never heard about
the car key or using whatever you have candy idea,
you know what listening to that's it's you're playing on
your senses. Sour Candy's taste the rock, you're going to feel, yeah,
(05:30):
she said, envision where you picked up the rock.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You know, it's all very smart, practical advice that you
can do or use anywhere, because I'm what I'm realizing
about it is that anxiety is a state of your
of your mind that becomes a state of your body.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It enters into the mind and it.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Paralyzes you with whatever thoughts are taking you over, and
then it becomes physical.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, yep, it's real. They call it the mind body connection.
You can't separate the two from each other.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And Angel had sent an email that we shared in
the show today about the fact that and She's right.
I never thought I couldn't understand why it was happening
to me. These little anxiety attacks were happened to me.
After my mom is home from the hospital and I
know she's doing better. I'm going to see her every day.
I know she's going to get there. But I was
(06:17):
holding on to stuff my body and mind was holding
on to stuff that I didn't let go during that
week and a half that she was there. When I say,
and I know that's not that long. People go through,
you know, longer situations that are highly stressed, emotionally stressful.
But I wasn't sleeping and I had a million things.
You know, me, Murphy, I expect too much of myself.
(06:40):
I expected to be by her bedside almost all the time,
and to not miss the show, and to have the
laundry done, and what about what you were going to eat?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It was so much for so many days, and I
was only sleeping a few hours here at a time.
That I was in worst case scenario mode for days
upon days. And so my body's finally like, oh, you
think everything's okay.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
In fight or flight mode constantly no.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And so I think that I'm learning a lot about it,
and I do want to continue talking about it because
I do think that anxiety is something that we don't
talk enough about that everybody experiences. And I know that,
you know, the younger generation is the mental health generation,
and anxiety and management of anxiety is a big part
(07:35):
of that, you know, I don't. I assumed when I
was younger that I must be good, I'm not going
to have anxiety in my life, And that was a
dumb assumption. You know, I was always grateful. I'm so grateful.
I've had some depression and I've had, you know, very
a very human experience. But I remember thinking, I'm so
(07:55):
glad I don't have anxiety or suffer from it. But
of course, if you're going to live a full life,
yeah you're.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Going to happen. It happen that it's going to cause
you and cause anybody to be anxious. Yeah, I'm just
happy that you're doing better.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I'm just also happy to be able to have a
place to share it here where other people are also
sharing their experiences. We have a couple of other comments
rolling into Facebook and Instagram. Jody, not fun to deal with,
but I both commend you and admire you for being
open about it, putting yourself in a vulnerable position and
sharing the fact that all kinds of people, even extraordinary people,
(08:29):
have and deal with anxiety.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Sometimes that's so sweet.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And I agree. Anxiety is not well. It is not
a welcomed thing. I go through it just about every day,
not always the same as you described, but it's there.
I do the deep breathing, but I also try to
focus on some good memories, some funny ones, something that
makes me laugh. Like you said, it will pass or
just breathe and talk about it. Thank you for that,
(08:55):
Anne So and keep it coming. Let us know about
your aperiences. And remember what Dahlia said about the Rock,
the Keys, the Sour Candy.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, I like the Sour Patch kids plan. That sounds
like a lot of fun. Keep it back of those handy.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Missed any part of the show. Get it all on
the Murphy Salmon Jody podcast.
Welcome to the Murphy Sam and Jody After the Show podcast,
where we hang out a little bit longer. And by
the way, so if you're listening to this podcast, you
may want to go take a peek at our YouTube
version of the podcast because you'll see how loud the
shirts are Jody and Sam are wearing. Sam is in
this bright orange golf type shirt. Jody is actually in
something that's more subdued. Red's copy read, yeah, it looks
(00:22):
beautiful on you and matches your lipstick, or your lipstick matches.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
My lipstick matches the blouse. But yeah, you're on the
right track.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So go see it on YouTube, and if it's not
going to take away from the podcast, you can keep listening.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I want to do this right here, something very personal.
I want to say thank you to everybody who has
reached out about the After the Show podcast. We did
a couple of days ago about my anxiety because it
was something that I have been dealing with over the.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Now, we've all dealt with anxiety in our lives, but
I had some serious anxiety hit me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, your mom's surgery was certainly a big catalyst.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It was, but after her surgery and I knew she
was home. Was when I started really having it, just
out of the blue, in the car or sitting at
my desk, just I never could I never knew when
it was coming, and it was crippling. I mean it
was just it would stop me, I would my breath,
I would have to stop and take a breath, and
(01:20):
it's a horrible feeling. And so we just talked about it,
and the response from you online has been so beautiful.
I wanted to say thank you and talking about it
since that day, since talking about it, I did have
a little about with it the very next day. But
I want to say it's getting better, it's lightening up
(01:40):
a bit. And I did try the three three three
method that we had talked about during that podcast of
when it hits you, it's something to keep you in
the present and to get you out of your head
with the what if scenarios or whatever's happening to you,
and that's you. You know we talked about it. You
look at three things, you listen for three things around you,
(02:02):
and then you move three things.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Move three things. That's the one I keep forgetting. I smell, yeah,
And it was crazy. I was trying to use that
to relieve anxiety, and I got stressed out. I couldn't
remember the third thing, Well, did it work?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It means wiggle your shoulders sort of. It's a lot
of little things to remember. What what's really working for
me when it happens is breathing and self talk.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That's good. I'm a big I mean that's really Look,
the breathing is that, and we've talked about that. You know,
it's it calms the vagus nerve, which is what it's called.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
For.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Anyone that doesn't know that the breathing thing is cliche
as it sounds, it's not really cliche. It is scientific
that when you slow your breathing, your body responds to it.
It's it is.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The basis of yoga is breath.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
The first thing that you have to get right for
a yoga post to be correct is the breath. Anyway,
we have some of these, some of these messages rolling
in to Murphy, Samon, Jody dot and on our social
media pages that are so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I really want to share them.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
First of all, Dahlia sent an email, Hey guys, love
listening to you as part of my daily routine. This
message is for Jody and has to do with the
anxiety you've been feeling recently. To help ease and anxiety attack,
another great option aside from the breathing technique, is having
some sour candy around. This can help your body by
distracting your nervous system because you've just been shocked by
(03:27):
the sourness interesting. It won't fix the anxiety, but it
gives you a quick reset so you can continue driving safely.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
She heard that it happened to me in the car.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Try finding a small rock while you're out on a
walk and keep it in your purse or car. When
you feel it coming again, hold that rock and start
feeling all the edges. Use your nail to scratch and
tap it as long as you're not driving. Also look
at it and describe the texture and think back to
when and where you found it. No rocks around, Grab
your house keys and do the same. Just some helpful
(04:01):
grounding techniques that I give my clients who are going
through anxiety panic attacks.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
PS. Murphy is most likely correct.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
When he said it might be stemming from an unfinished task.
You may not be outright thinking about your subconscious feels
that your mom is not fully out of the woods
yet until she's up and running like her usual self.
When it comes to your parents, we come to a
realization that they're becoming fragile and that does not sit
well with our soul.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I'm seeing a lot of changes in her, maybe more
than I've ever in my life, and she's always been.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
In my life. Take everything day by day. This is
more from Dahlia.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Take everything day by day, and please speak with someone
about what you're feeling and going through. Family and friends
are great, but sometimes an outside ear and fresh perspective
is what we need. Praying for you and your mom,
and thank you guys for all that you do. You
may not realize it, but you are part of my
therapy as well. I listen in the car and I
feel like I'm in my living room with friends, just
(05:02):
catching up and laughing. Sometimes I need that, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's beautiful, Dahlia, Thank you. And what that's just great
advice too. I've never heard about the the I mean,
I know I had a worry stone one time. That's
what those things are for, but I never heard about
the car key or using whatever you have candy idea,
you know what listening to that's it's you're playing on
your senses. Sour Candy's taste the rock, you're going to feel, yeah,
(05:30):
she said, envision where you picked up the rock.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You know, it's all very smart, practical advice that you
can do or use anywhere, because I'm what I'm realizing
about it is that anxiety is a state of your
of your mind that becomes a state of your body.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It enters into the mind and it.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Paralyzes you with whatever thoughts are taking you over, and
then it becomes physical.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, yep, it's real. They call it the mind body connection.
You can't separate the two from each other.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And Angel had sent an email that we shared in
the show today about the fact that and She's right.
I never thought I couldn't understand why it was happening
to me. These little anxiety attacks were happened to me.
After my mom is home from the hospital and I
know she's doing better. I'm going to see her every day.
I know she's going to get there. But I was
(06:17):
holding on to stuff my body and mind was holding
on to stuff that I didn't let go during that
week and a half that she was there. When I say,
and I know that's not that long. People go through,
you know, longer situations that are highly stressed, emotionally stressful.
But I wasn't sleeping and I had a million things.
You know, me, Murphy, I expect too much of myself.
(06:40):
I expected to be by her bedside almost all the time,
and to not miss the show, and to have the
laundry done, and what about what you were going to eat?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It was so much for so many days, and I
was only sleeping a few hours here at a time.
That I was in worst case scenario mode for days
upon days. And so my body's finally like, oh, you
think everything's okay.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
In fight or flight mode constantly no.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And so I think that I'm learning a lot about it,
and I do want to continue talking about it because
I do think that anxiety is something that we don't
talk enough about that everybody experiences. And I know that,
you know, the younger generation is the mental health generation,
and anxiety and management of anxiety is a big part
(07:35):
of that, you know, I don't. I assumed when I
was younger that I must be good, I'm not going
to have anxiety in my life, And that was a
dumb assumption. You know, I was always grateful. I'm so grateful.
I've had some depression and I've had, you know, very
a very human experience. But I remember thinking, I'm so
(07:55):
glad I don't have anxiety or suffer from it. But
of course, if you're going to live a full life,
yeah you're.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Going to happen. It happen that it's going to cause
you and cause anybody to be anxious. Yeah, I'm just
happy that you're doing better.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I'm just also happy to be able to have a
place to share it here where other people are also
sharing their experiences. We have a couple of other comments
rolling into Facebook and Instagram. Jody, not fun to deal with,
but I both commend you and admire you for being
open about it, putting yourself in a vulnerable position and
sharing the fact that all kinds of people, even extraordinary people,
(08:29):
have and deal with anxiety.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Sometimes that's so sweet.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And I agree. Anxiety is not well. It is not
a welcomed thing. I go through it just about every day,
not always the same as you described, but it's there.
I do the deep breathing, but I also try to
focus on some good memories, some funny ones, something that
makes me laugh. Like you said, it will pass or
just breathe and talk about it. Thank you for that,
(08:55):
Anne So and keep it coming. Let us know about
your aperiences. And remember what Dahlia said about the Rock,
the Keys, the Sour Candy.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, I like the Sour Patch kids plan. That sounds
like a lot of fun. Keep it back of those handy.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Missed any part of the show. Get it all on
the Murphy Salmon Jody podcast.
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