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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jody after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Parents moms, especially of little children, you need to know.
I want to tell you a story. And it's been
many years in the making for me to hear these
words come back to me. The little things that you do,
little things that you obsess about. I hope you don't
obsess too much, but I know when children are small,
you do. The kids do notice it. And I say
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this because of a conversation we had the other day
at Mother's Day at dinner. So after we saw the
Michael Jackson movie with our girls Murphy for Mother's Day,
we went and we met my mom so my mom
could be there too, and my brother. Like a family
dinner at a restaurant, Mexican restaurant, my favorite food, and
we're just having a good time. And Phoebe was sitting
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directly across from me, she's our little historian, and Nana's
sitting right next to me, my mom and Taylor's also
right there, and it's like, Phoebe said, hey, so what
are your favorite stories of motherhood? What are your favorite
stories either between each other or what do you remember
most about when we were little? And I was like, whoa,
I'm just not ready for this. What you know, what
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were my favorite parties?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You really have to stop and think for a minute, right.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I hated that because, you know, since that time, I've
got all kinds of things ding in my brain at night.
But we just started having all these really great conversations,
and then it flipped to where Phoebe and Taylor were saying,
I remember this, and this was great and I loved this,
and I had never Murphy, they had never told me.
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I didn't even realize that they ever knew about the
snack thing. So one of the things I was obsessive
about was, you know, We've always done this job, this work,
this morning show, where I was always busy in the mornings.
I didn't get to always be the one to drive
them to school.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Right, So there it was carpool in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
In the carpool in the afternoon, I did not miss
it for anything in the world. I was always sometimes
like the first mom in line, like okay, I'm here,
And I always was some obsessive almost about making sure
I had a snack for them in the back seat.
I can remember leaving work some afternoons and just watching
the time what am I going to get them? Did
I prepare it? Is there a snack back there? Or
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is there a snack in a cooler in the car?
I was obsessive about just I know they not hungry.
They might be hungry, but just not just that's a
way of mom loving them, right. I wanted to know
them to know that you're gonna That's one way of
me loving you. I know that that was my thing.
I know for a fact that we could have been
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home in five minutes and had a snack. So anyway,
she said that, Phoebe said, I really loved it when
you picked us up and you always had a snack.
I almost fell out of my chair when she said that.
I thought that was my secret obsession. I didn't realize
that it actually she knew that I always would have
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a snack, and I remember thinking, I didn't say it
at the table, But yeah, I have no idea how
I'm obsessed about that, Like how many times I barely
made it to carpool just to make sure that I
had cheese sticks back there in almonds or whatever. And
I also wanted to keep it not predictable. You know,
sometimes I'd roll in there with a uncrustable. That was
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a good day for them. I was like, wow, And
sometimes it was like, I'm sorry, it's a granola bar,
but it's just that's Those are the little things that
you do and you may even forget about them. Carpool
is not a part of my life anymore, Murphy, it
was such a huge part of my life. In fact,
I used to do that's the first place I ever
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did at Facebook Live for Murphy, Sam and Jody. I
was sitting in carpool, going here, I am in carpool again.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, it was. It's such a special moment in time too,
because you see those kids come out and get lined
up and you're looking at them, and I like, I can
tell something's wrong, or I can tell this is a
good day. You know, I can tell as soon as
those doors closed, I'm going to hear about something because
you know your child so well and you're watching them
like a hawk from across the parking lot, you know.
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But just those little things that you do and obsess about,
even if you think it's just your own thing and
it's forgotten, it's not. Yeah, the kids do know and
pay attention to those things.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, and I'm there. There's also the things that mom
does that she does just because she's a mom that
she doesn't necessarily obsess about but doesn't realize the impact
and what those memories, right, you know, actually are And
some are funny and you know some are different. Like
I mean my mom with the you know, some of
the meals that she would put together. We've talked about
that before, where she she was a hard working mom
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and so a lot of things would be made from
the can that night if there wasn't a whole lot
of time to do anything, or any time to do
anything from scratch, you know, but those wound up being
some of our favorite silly you know meals. Her tuna
casse role inside of Kraft macaroni and cheese, which sounds disgusting.
That actually better than you think. Well, it's good, I
made a true tunic cast are all with? You know,
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fresh noodles is probably even better if you like that.
But but you know it's the the you know, she
would do the whole surprise every now and then, you know,
fast food. She found a bunch of coupons and then
come home with a ton of stuff on a Friday night,
and so that was fun. When Friday I saw hamburgers
and hot dog and all that everywhere, Like, oh my god,
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it was like a party.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, yeah, I can remember. My mom would always tuck
us in and she would go to my brother's room,
and then she would come to my room and she
would just just kiss me on the head or the
face and say good night night and leave. It wasn't
a long drawn out thing, but I looked so forward
to it, like I needed it so badly. And I
love the way she smells and and and all of that,
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And that was a tiny little thing that that meant
a great deal to me. So all the things you
do as involved as you can be, even if it's
you know, even if you're you know, splitting the household
and you're apart, like you know, you only have your
parents your kids half the time. The little things that
you do as a caregiver, I imagine for your kids, Sam,
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it's your cooking for them.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah. It's funny you mentioned that because talking to my
son Will a couple of weeks ago, he started raving
about when I would make grilled cheese or grilled ham
and cheese. He goes, Yeah, those I don't know how
you did it, but those were the best.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I was like, really right, And that was news to you,
he says.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
If I see that in a restaurant on the menu,
he says, yours is the gold standard. Grilled cheese is
the gold mott. And it was like, okay, I have
mayo on it, and I did this. And this is
even before we saw Chef the movie Chef with that
grilled cheese.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Where are you trying to bring it to that level?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah? And that that really surprised me because it's like, oh, well,
I was just making lunches. To me, I was just
making lunch.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I can remember going back to the snacks and carpool.
I can remember trying to talk myself out of that, going,
you're spoiling them. They're always going to expect snacks. I'm
setting myself up to make Like when I first started
doing it, when they were in first grade or whatever.
I'm thought, don't do this because you're gonna have to
always roll in here with snacks and they're not starving,
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you know. But I tried to talk myself out of it,
but my mom brain was like, Nope, we're doing it.
This is We're gonna do it. This is one of
the things I'm going to do as a mother because
I'm always going to have a snack. And I'm so
glad I did that because that was being true to myself.
It's what I truly wanted to do. Yeah, so I
did it, and I just love that. All these years later,
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it was like I loved that. Yeah, I had no idea.
They really even didn't know that. Other moms may not
have done.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
That well for me. Similarly, with the cook and I
used to even when the kids were teenagers and they
were at my house on the weekends, I would make lunch.
And I know, as a teenager you can make your
own lunch, yes, But to me, it was just like, hey,
what do you want for lunch? I got this, I
got this, I got this. I can make it up
like a short order cook.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But and I know they could.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
A lot of parents would say let the kids make
it themselves, but I that was one thing I enjoyed.
Just like you going, should I bring snacks?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Really not?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Should I stop doing this? I kept making sandwiches until
everybody left the house for good, nice, just because that's
what I wanted to do. Yeah, correct, Yeah, that makes
sense to me.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You know this is the perfect Mother's Day post mother's
Day podcast and conversation because not only are moms the
one I guess moms may obsess about it. Grandmothers do
the same thing, but maybe they've got the luxury of
not really stressing. It's just they're wired that way to
do something that you know that makes a difference in
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that you remember.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Like you earned the right to do it when you're
a grandparent.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Right exactly. I thought that my grandmother made the best
breakfasts for whatever reason, and I'm sure some of that
ties to It's not just the food, it's the whole,
you know scene, it's the whole dynamic. Because when we
would spend the night at my grandmother's house, and she
would do this when she would come on vacation with
us too. She was always the first up. Even if
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you tried to get up early, she was still up
earlier than you. I don't know how she did it.
She was but at her house, and you know, it
was a story and a half house, so the kitchen
was below the bedrooms, and so when she started making
bacon and eggs and all that, and cooking biscuits in
the oven, all of that came upstairs and that was
I mean, that was a happy smell to wake up too,
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right exactly. So I'm sure that enhances the fact that
she made the best breakfast because it was totally experiential also,
but that was the same thing, like you're saying, Sam,
she loved to do that. Her place was the kitchen.
She absolutely loved to cook. It was the reason that
she would cook even when nobody was there. But it
gave her another excuse to be a grandmother because she
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would portion things out, stick them in the freezer. She
had a separate freezer all together that she kept all
of those things in. And so time you would go visit,
if you were leaving, the first thing she would give
you is, hey, honey, you want to take this, whether
you or that, whether you some castrole or something that
she's made.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Look, I understand that one hundred and ten percent. You
can't stop mothering them just because they're in the world
now and out from under your roof. It's in you.
Thank goodness, it's beautiful. Yeah, it's a part of you.
You become a parent and it doesn't ever leave you. Yeah,
I love that, And you do have to be more.
You have to be smart about it because you do
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have to. Yeah, you shouldn't be making their lunch every
meal when they get to a certain age because how
people get confidence is by doing How children get confidence
is by doing things for themselves. So don't make their
lunch till they're eighteen every day, like yeah, but on
the weekend or whatever something special, Yes, do it because
you want to do it. It's a fine line.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
To me also too, it was one of those and
this may sound odd, but to me, it was a
way of showing them love. Yes, I know it's a sandwich,
but to me it was love.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It was a snack, but it was love.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Well that and it's I mean, you're in a split
family situation too, so the things that you know, uh yeah,
make that difference, you know, are good for both them
and and for you. That makes perfect sense, you know. Yeah,
you didn't have your kids all the time every single day,
so what you did made it, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
A quality time versus quantity the.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Uh you know. The the other thing I was gonna
say about it, it's when they when your kids actually
do acknowledge that, it's super sweet, like you know, Phoebe
did also, But I think I thought it was interesting
when you said that just now about having them start
to learn their own thing. I remember the first time Taylor,
our oldest, came and asked us if she could use
the stove, and your first thought is but then you realize, okay, wait,
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you are old enough. Now we'll just teach the safety
you've got to learn at some point. And that's that
place as a parent where you're going to okay, and
and and you know what I mean. She did fine.
And after that, at a very young age, she wanted
to start to give back on Mother's Day in fact,
making things and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I love it. I love it. Look you see, you
know parents like doing things for children, you know when
they're older, and it's you don't it's not you know,
you don't say anything. It's not your business. But it's
kind of like you're doing that because you want to,
because it's who you are, you're a parent. But it's
also there is also that time where you got to
realize it would build confidence in a child to make
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their own lunch. It'll build confidence for them to learn
these things, even you know, even if they say they
don't want to, but when they come to you and
ask you can. I do this, it is and they
will feel better about themselves for having done that. Stand
a little taller. That's the interesting thing about parenting is
it's the greatest feeling, the greatest, most impossible love. But
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you also, with time have to slowly let it go.
Not that you let the love go, but you let
the daily control or you loosen the strings. You have
to loosen the strings so that they have their own strings. Anyway,
and just talking about it, it was fantastic. And that's
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another little quick takeaway. As they get older, when they
have time with you, it is the greatest gift to
just talk about memories, you know. And she brought that up.
It's a natural thing to do with families, tell stories
and bring that all up. It doesn't have to be
Mother's Day for that to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh no, it can happen anytime, and they're the greatest.
It keeps all that you know alive.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They need to hear those stories, and you need to
hear it. It was I needed to hear that. I
had no idea that they knew that the snack obsession
was a thing, I think, or that they even you
know remember it?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, I you know, I miss both of my parents tremendously.
My mom, of course, died I think too young. Obviously,
she's been gone for ten years, and I mean I
miss being able to have those kinds of conversations with her.
I also know that it, you know, until the day
that she passed. If I said there was something I
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saw in the store that I liked, it just a
casual conversation, it's going to show up, you know, because
that's that's who she was. And that was right exactly.
And I was certainly capable of buying those things myself,
and probably would have because you know how I am
mister impulse by But but you know, those those things.
That's another reason I bring that up, just to say,
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is because those conversations are not only special in the moment,
they're special for the rest of your life because life
does continue to change, and those are the things that
you can hold on to even when they're no longer around,
which is a case for a lot of people. You know.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And I will bet you that I didn't think of this.
This wasn't the plan. It was just my snack obsession
for them. But one day if and when they have
children and they're doing pick up in the afternoon, they're gonna,
you know what, They're going to roll in with grapes
or whatever, you know, whatever the snack of the day is. Yeah,
they they might very likely take that on because it
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was given to them.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Mom used to do it and I loved it, so
I'm gonna do it for my kids.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, and maybe for all of us. You could resurrect
the whole Uncrustables things every afternoon. Missed any part of
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