July 29, 2026 • 11 mins
Jodi shares the breakthrough she had after an insane, overscheduled day: don't let your to-do list become a feeling that runs you.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jody after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's Keep the Wild Wednesday, and I wanted to share
something that I realized after an insane day yesterday, and
the takeaway here will be don't let your list stress you,
don't let your list run you. We all have days
that are overscheduled, and I had one yesterday, like early
(00:26):
in the morning. We started and I did a little
before the show. Hey, hey, we're doing Girl Talk Tuesday,
you know later. And then it was ten hours at
work and then I was, you know, at the pharmacy
trying to get medicine I needed that I couldn't get.
Then I get in my car and drive to my
mom's house and I visit with her and I try
to pick up some clothes I was having altered that
(00:46):
weren't ready when I tell you, I had so much
on the list. Then I was due to be at
a fundraiser for a friend of mine's five oh one
C three event, and then we were doing Girl Talk Tuesday.
When I walked into the house Murphy after seven pm
in those high heels clicking, I turned on Facebook Life.
I had not been home except to let the dogs
(01:07):
out for ten minutes. Yeah, earlier in the day, it
was one of those days where my list kept talking
to me saying, you can't do all this. Like my
brain was going, what are you doing? What should you cancel?
Which one should you send the text that you can't
make it to the event? You know? And I just
at one point, while visiting with my mom yesterday, I thought,
(01:30):
I'm just gonna do it all. I'm not gonna let
the what if of the list determine my game here.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's smart. I am really bad about that myself.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Letting your list become a feeling is it gets in
your own way?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah. In fact, I've got a reminder of my phone
that basically says, you know, you were not your responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh nice, now you're not your list, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Which is basically what that means some things that I'm
supposed to be doing. You know, don't internalize that as
that list becomes me for the day. It's just what
I've got to do it, and you make the decisions.
But it's difficult not to because when you make a list,
you want to get it all done. It's the reason you.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Made the list, right, right, I have.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I was ambitious, very ambitious yesterday, and it feels great
to know that all the boxes were checked. That's a wonderful,
productive feeling at the end of the day that I'm
chasing that I really do want. However, I'm human, and
I almost canceled one or two of those things and
you know, go home and do my bedtime routine and
do the bath and do all the self care things.
(02:36):
But instead I just did this marathon of a day,
this ambitious day. But it was just nice to not
let it become a feeling. It was a fact I
had all this to do, and so I just did
it all. I showed up to the event and I
told everyone when I arrived, I can't stay the whole time,
and I'm so glad. I did you know. I saw
(02:58):
some of my favorite ladies. I saw cas Al Stephanie.
Stephanie came over and she listens and she said, I've
been following the Champ story and I'm dying to know
how Champ is doing. So he's doing fine, by the way,
our dog dog yea. But one of those days I
wanted to talk about it because I feel like everybody
has that you have this internal dialogue. You're not the
(03:18):
only one, but don't let it run you.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, the other thing that you said is true. Even
though you elected to keep everything on your list, sometimes
you don't have to keep everything on your list. And
sometimes what you put on your list, you know, maybe
felt right at the moment, but it really isn't a
do or die situation. Rarely are things that you know
a way. Yeah, and I have trouble remembering that.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Also everything is on fire?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah? Yeah, is that when you bust out your eyesenhower matrix. Oh,
that's right, I forgot about the eyesenhower matrix. Clearly I'm
not using it.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's another Here's another example of how self talk is
so so important, not like, don't let your list become
a feeling our anxieties what I feel like. Another example
is yesterday afternoon when I left my mom's house. I
enjoyed my visit with her. It was shorter than I
usually have been doing, but at least I got it in.
I wanted to see her, give her a hug, see
(04:09):
how she's doing. On the way to the charity event,
I'm thinking, oh, I'm doing Facebook Live after this, and
early in the morning, when I said, let's do girl
talk Tuesday tonight, We're going to talk about being married
at work and our relationship and how we make it work.
I was just full of energy and bright eyed and
bushy tailed, as my dad used to say in the morning.
(04:30):
That's how I was ready. But at seven thirty last night,
I'm like, what am.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I supposed to be talking about?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But it ended.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I just did it anyway, instead of let instead of
letting the internal dialogue create pressure, we just did it
and it was awesome. It was one of my favorite
girl talk Tuesdays in a long time. It's still on
Facebook live now, I mean still on Facebook if you
want to go back. And because we really went there, Murphy.
I told stories about you and me working together first
(04:59):
and get it married, and how we make it work,
how I handle being mad at you when I'm work
mad at you, which happens now.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm going to go check this one out. We tell
me too. Actually, maybe it would be good advice for
me to go watch this and understand how I'm supposed
to be.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We can. We can dig into some of that tomorrow
in the show, but we will, and we will because
there was a lot of good comments I want to
share that I didn't get to last night. You know
a lot of women are busy at night and jump
on late and watch the replay.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But there's a lot of good, you know gems there.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, the working with your spouse question is the most
common question that you and I get.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Jody, you know, I can't do it than you do,
and it's always from women. Men do not ask how
do you work with your husband? Women are like, how
do you work with your husband? Oh my god, I
could never That's what follows is my guys.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Ask work with your wife? Okay, I mean not as
a judgment on you, how do you work with Jody?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Good, it's but it's because they they see the same thing,
the the dynamic. Not everybody is, you know, built for that.
You and I didn't seek that, so it's kind of
like we had to learn it, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But my answer to that question, and we kind of
talked about this last night, is always that it's not
for everybody. Couples can either do it or they can't,
and understand it comes with an extra It comes with
a layer that other couples don't have. You and I
have issues that other couples don't have. Burnout is one
of them, and you know, lines being crossed more often
(06:31):
is one of them.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Hey, burnout, let me go back quick burnout. You don't
mean like job burnout.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You just mean the fact that the two too much together.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, too much.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Too much togetherness.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
A lady came up to me last night at that
charity thing and which she was saying, Oh, you're talking
about that tonight. I can't wait, She says, I know
I couldn't work with my husband. I already see him
so much. I don't ever miss him. I would like
to have the I would love to know what it
feels like to miss him, but he's always there.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I was like, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think that was an issue for us
at one point, but now I don't know. We're in
a place. Part of that, I think is because our
daughters are older now. Not that there was any problem
with the four of us always being together, but you
and I could not distance, you know, or just do
our own thing, because you were responsible for raising our
girls at that point. But you know, I mean now
I think that we balance that pretty well.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Sometimes you don't even see me on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, And I mean, and I'll realize that I don't,
I won't call. I mean, if there's a thought, you
always have that shared moment thing where it's like I
see something, this is what I would share with Jody anyway,
because it's Jody, and so I'll you know, I'll text
those kinds of things. But like if I'm traveling or
I'm doing the retreats or whatever, there's not a whole
lot of phone calling going on.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know. Nice is because I mean, we didn't go
here last night about having a happy relationship. But I
really truly believe the people who are in the happiest
relationships are also happy with their own lives. You know.
You know, I have my own life, and I don't
depend on you to make me happy. You make me happy,
and you're a part of that. But if I'm going
(08:04):
to be happy, that is up to me. And if
you're going to be happy with yourself that is up
to you.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, and and yes, absolutely, and I think a lot
of it is also the communicating with each other to
understand what's happy and what's not if the other person's
But what I'm getting at is, like, you know, working together,
if you're not careful, the normal frustrations of a day
you bring those home, well, you've you're going to hurt
the other person's morale because you're working together, you know
(08:30):
what I mean. Even if it's just like a it's
just natural expression of frustration or whatever, it has a
different context when you're working together. And it doesn't mean
that we can't tell each other things. But I've had
to learn over time that you know, I just I
don't need to She lived the same thing I live today.
She doesn't need me bringing that back home, right, Jody,
I mean, well, it took me a bit to learn that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
We talked about that last night too, that you if
you are going to work with your spouse, A lot
of people find that that's something they need they want
to do today together. You see a lot of spouses
working together because you create a business together. Yeah, and
who do you trust more to handle your books? Well,
your wife or your husband or whatever. A lot of
people are doing it. That's why we talked about it.
There was a lot of engagement. But one thing I
have learned, and I think you have learned boundaries, Like
(09:17):
sometimes when you hit the door, if something's on your mind,
you will start talking to me about it. And sometimes
I'm like, yeah, let's talk about it. This happened, let's
talk about it. I want to talk about the podcast
or Sam or the show or something we're doing a
travel work. But other times I remember recently on a
(09:37):
Friday evening, you started talking about work and I was like,
it's Friday night, can we not? And you were like, oh,
you're right, you know, so that's just me being a boundary.
And years ago I probably wouldn't have done that. Years ago,
I would have said, Okay, well, this is just who
he is and he's talking to me about it and
I don't want to hear it right now, but I'm
not going to say anything. But now I'm like, please
don't talk to me about.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
That right now, let's talk about Sam. And that's just
the boundary. It's just a boundary.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, so you learn that and that's a healthy boundary.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, totally. So anyway back to the list and that
kind of day. I think everyone, especially Americans, we are
success driven, and most of us, if you are success driven,
you have a list every day of things to get done.
Some of them are professional, lots of them are professional,
and some of them are personal.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And that's always going to is always going to call
to you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I think that's normal and I love to have a
productive day too, But I am working on not letting
my list become a feeling and become weight. It just
is what it is, and that was So that was
a breakthrough for me yesterday to have such an ambitious
day but to not let it make me feel like
a nervous wreck.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah. I've never known you to be overwhelmed by your list.
Yesterday was the first kind of day where I saw
it spilling, you know, spilling over on you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I mean you really was back to back. You were stressed,
but I also noticed the change in the evening where
you just were. It was like one text to me
is like you had clearly you had just changed your thought.
You took a breath, and you put yourself back in
a healthy space.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, a little anyway, a little Keith the Wow, what's
on your list for today? It's you know, not as big,
but it's pretty full of a pretty full day.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But guess what, one thing out of time, one.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Thing on the list is not to worry too much
about the list, right, missed any part of the show,
Get it all on the Murphy Salmon Jody Podcast
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jody after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's Keep the Wild Wednesday, and I wanted to share
something that I realized after an insane day yesterday, and
the takeaway here will be don't let your list stress you,
don't let your list run you. We all have days
that are overscheduled, and I had one yesterday, like early
(00:26):
in the morning. We started and I did a little
before the show. Hey, hey, we're doing Girl Talk Tuesday,
you know later. And then it was ten hours at
work and then I was, you know, at the pharmacy
trying to get medicine I needed that I couldn't get.
Then I get in my car and drive to my
mom's house and I visit with her and I try
to pick up some clothes I was having altered that
(00:46):
weren't ready when I tell you, I had so much
on the list. Then I was due to be at
a fundraiser for a friend of mine's five oh one
C three event, and then we were doing Girl Talk Tuesday.
When I walked into the house Murphy after seven pm
in those high heels clicking, I turned on Facebook Life.
I had not been home except to let the dogs
(01:07):
out for ten minutes. Yeah, earlier in the day, it
was one of those days where my list kept talking
to me saying, you can't do all this. Like my
brain was going, what are you doing? What should you cancel?
Which one should you send the text that you can't
make it to the event? You know? And I just
at one point, while visiting with my mom yesterday, I thought,
(01:30):
I'm just gonna do it all. I'm not gonna let
the what if of the list determine my game here.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's smart. I am really bad about that myself.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Letting your list become a feeling is it gets in
your own way?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah. In fact, I've got a reminder of my phone
that basically says, you know, you were not your responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh nice, now you're not your list, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Which is basically what that means some things that I'm
supposed to be doing. You know, don't internalize that as
that list becomes me for the day. It's just what
I've got to do it, and you make the decisions.
But it's difficult not to because when you make a list,
you want to get it all done. It's the reason you.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Made the list, right, right, I have.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I was ambitious, very ambitious yesterday, and it feels great
to know that all the boxes were checked. That's a wonderful,
productive feeling at the end of the day that I'm
chasing that I really do want. However, I'm human, and
I almost canceled one or two of those things and
you know, go home and do my bedtime routine and
do the bath and do all the self care things.
(02:36):
But instead I just did this marathon of a day,
this ambitious day. But it was just nice to not
let it become a feeling. It was a fact I
had all this to do, and so I just did
it all. I showed up to the event and I
told everyone when I arrived, I can't stay the whole time,
and I'm so glad. I did you know. I saw
(02:58):
some of my favorite ladies. I saw cas Al Stephanie.
Stephanie came over and she listens and she said, I've
been following the Champ story and I'm dying to know
how Champ is doing. So he's doing fine, by the way,
our dog dog yea. But one of those days I
wanted to talk about it because I feel like everybody
has that you have this internal dialogue. You're not the
(03:18):
only one, but don't let it run you.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, the other thing that you said is true. Even
though you elected to keep everything on your list, sometimes
you don't have to keep everything on your list. And
sometimes what you put on your list, you know, maybe
felt right at the moment, but it really isn't a
do or die situation. Rarely are things that you know
a way. Yeah, and I have trouble remembering that.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Also everything is on fire?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah? Yeah, is that when you bust out your eyesenhower matrix. Oh,
that's right, I forgot about the eyesenhower matrix. Clearly I'm
not using it.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's another Here's another example of how self talk is
so so important, not like, don't let your list become
a feeling our anxieties what I feel like. Another example
is yesterday afternoon when I left my mom's house. I
enjoyed my visit with her. It was shorter than I
usually have been doing, but at least I got it in.
I wanted to see her, give her a hug, see
(04:09):
how she's doing. On the way to the charity event,
I'm thinking, oh, I'm doing Facebook Live after this, and
early in the morning, when I said, let's do girl
talk Tuesday tonight, We're going to talk about being married
at work and our relationship and how we make it work.
I was just full of energy and bright eyed and
bushy tailed, as my dad used to say in the morning.
(04:30):
That's how I was ready. But at seven thirty last night,
I'm like, what am.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I supposed to be talking about?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But it ended.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I just did it anyway, instead of let instead of
letting the internal dialogue create pressure, we just did it
and it was awesome. It was one of my favorite
girl talk Tuesdays in a long time. It's still on
Facebook live now, I mean still on Facebook if you
want to go back. And because we really went there, Murphy.
I told stories about you and me working together first
(04:59):
and get it married, and how we make it work,
how I handle being mad at you when I'm work
mad at you, which happens now.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm going to go check this one out. We tell
me too. Actually, maybe it would be good advice for
me to go watch this and understand how I'm supposed
to be.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We can. We can dig into some of that tomorrow
in the show, but we will, and we will because
there was a lot of good comments I want to
share that I didn't get to last night. You know
a lot of women are busy at night and jump
on late and watch the replay.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But there's a lot of good, you know gems there.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, the working with your spouse question is the most
common question that you and I get.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Jody, you know, I can't do it than you do,
and it's always from women. Men do not ask how
do you work with your husband? Women are like, how
do you work with your husband? Oh my god, I
could never That's what follows is my guys.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Ask work with your wife? Okay, I mean not as
a judgment on you, how do you work with Jody?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Good, it's but it's because they they see the same thing,
the the dynamic. Not everybody is, you know, built for that.
You and I didn't seek that, so it's kind of
like we had to learn it, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But my answer to that question, and we kind of
talked about this last night, is always that it's not
for everybody. Couples can either do it or they can't,
and understand it comes with an extra It comes with
a layer that other couples don't have. You and I
have issues that other couples don't have. Burnout is one
of them, and you know, lines being crossed more often
(06:31):
is one of them.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Hey, burnout, let me go back quick burnout. You don't
mean like job burnout.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You just mean the fact that the two too much together.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, too much.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Too much togetherness.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
A lady came up to me last night at that
charity thing and which she was saying, Oh, you're talking
about that tonight. I can't wait, She says, I know
I couldn't work with my husband. I already see him
so much. I don't ever miss him. I would like
to have the I would love to know what it
feels like to miss him, but he's always there.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I was like, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think that was an issue for us
at one point, but now I don't know. We're in
a place. Part of that, I think is because our
daughters are older now. Not that there was any problem
with the four of us always being together, but you
and I could not distance, you know, or just do
our own thing, because you were responsible for raising our
girls at that point. But you know, I mean now
I think that we balance that pretty well.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Sometimes you don't even see me on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, And I mean, and I'll realize that I don't,
I won't call. I mean, if there's a thought, you
always have that shared moment thing where it's like I
see something, this is what I would share with Jody anyway,
because it's Jody, and so I'll you know, I'll text
those kinds of things. But like if I'm traveling or
I'm doing the retreats or whatever, there's not a whole
lot of phone calling going on.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know. Nice is because I mean, we didn't go
here last night about having a happy relationship. But I
really truly believe the people who are in the happiest
relationships are also happy with their own lives. You know.
You know, I have my own life, and I don't
depend on you to make me happy. You make me happy,
and you're a part of that. But if I'm going
(08:04):
to be happy, that is up to me. And if
you're going to be happy with yourself that is up
to you.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, and and yes, absolutely, and I think a lot
of it is also the communicating with each other to
understand what's happy and what's not if the other person's
But what I'm getting at is, like, you know, working together,
if you're not careful, the normal frustrations of a day
you bring those home, well, you've you're going to hurt
the other person's morale because you're working together, you know
(08:30):
what I mean. Even if it's just like a it's
just natural expression of frustration or whatever, it has a
different context when you're working together. And it doesn't mean
that we can't tell each other things. But I've had
to learn over time that you know, I just I
don't need to She lived the same thing I live today.
She doesn't need me bringing that back home, right, Jody,
I mean, well, it took me a bit to learn that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
We talked about that last night too, that you if
you are going to work with your spouse, A lot
of people find that that's something they need they want
to do today together. You see a lot of spouses
working together because you create a business together. Yeah, and
who do you trust more to handle your books? Well,
your wife or your husband or whatever. A lot of
people are doing it. That's why we talked about it.
There was a lot of engagement. But one thing I
have learned, and I think you have learned boundaries, Like
(09:17):
sometimes when you hit the door, if something's on your mind,
you will start talking to me about it. And sometimes
I'm like, yeah, let's talk about it. This happened, let's
talk about it. I want to talk about the podcast
or Sam or the show or something we're doing a
travel work. But other times I remember recently on a
(09:37):
Friday evening, you started talking about work and I was like,
it's Friday night, can we not? And you were like, oh,
you're right, you know, so that's just me being a boundary.
And years ago I probably wouldn't have done that. Years ago,
I would have said, Okay, well, this is just who
he is and he's talking to me about it and
I don't want to hear it right now, but I'm
not going to say anything. But now I'm like, please
don't talk to me about.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
That right now, let's talk about Sam. And that's just
the boundary. It's just a boundary.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, so you learn that and that's a healthy boundary.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, totally. So anyway back to the list and that
kind of day. I think everyone, especially Americans, we are
success driven, and most of us, if you are success driven,
you have a list every day of things to get done.
Some of them are professional, lots of them are professional,
and some of them are personal.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And that's always going to is always going to call
to you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I think that's normal and I love to have a
productive day too, But I am working on not letting
my list become a feeling and become weight. It just
is what it is, and that was So that was
a breakthrough for me yesterday to have such an ambitious
day but to not let it make me feel like
a nervous wreck.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah. I've never known you to be overwhelmed by your list.
Yesterday was the first kind of day where I saw
it spilling, you know, spilling over on you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I mean you really was back to back. You were stressed,
but I also noticed the change in the evening where
you just were. It was like one text to me
is like you had clearly you had just changed your thought.
You took a breath, and you put yourself back in
a healthy space.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, a little anyway, a little Keith the Wow, what's
on your list for today? It's you know, not as big,
but it's pretty full of a pretty full day.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But guess what, one thing out of time, one.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Thing on the list is not to worry too much
about the list, right, missed any part of the show,
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