July 9, 2024 • 9 mins
Murphy & Jodi’s youngest daughter Phoebe is rockin’ a new accessory, but not everyone was comfortable with it at first.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Murphy Samon Jody after the Show podcast, and
we're flashing back to some of her favorite moments while
we're out on vacation. We'll return on July fifteenth. On
the show Today, Jody, you were talking about our youngest daughter, Phoebe,
who got a piercing for her birthday that she really wanted.
It was septum piercing, and it looks really good on her.
And I know that that was something that you were
(00:22):
concerned about questioning it first.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Because you just my first look, I'm being honest.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, she knows this too, because she and I have
a very open, honest relationship and our girls know, you
get to be who you are. Yeah, you know, it
doesn't matter, but if you ask me what I think
of it, I'm going to be honest with you. And
she asked me, Well, she told me, mom, when I
turn eighteen, I'm going to want I'm going to want
a septum piercing or she said nose piercing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And I said, oh, like Taylor.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Because Taylor, our oldest, has the side and the diamond
and it's really cute. And I was like, oh cool,
you know, and she was like no, the she said,
it's the septum that I want piercing. She started showing
me it's like, I know what it is. And I
was honest with her. I was like, reallybe I asked
the questions instead of instead of saying no, you're not
because I don't do that. They get to be who
they are. But I was honest with her.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I was like, oh, really, are you sure? Are you sure?
Because I just didn't.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
For me, I didn't understand it, like I would never
choose that for me. But you've got to remember that
as a parent, you're not.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Them, correct, They're not you. Yeah, And that's a very
challenging thing to overcome because I know that that's not
something that my mom or dad every right. It was
like the if they didn't believe it should be done,
it wasn't going to do it right exactly. Which is
a really dangerous place to put yourself when you're talking
about things that really are harmless when it comes to
(01:45):
personal expression and things that you know, because different things
feel empowering to different people, and so if you push
too hard against that and it's not really something that's
going to cause true physical harm or a real problem,
then then you're going to do is create a rebelliousness,
you know. And I know that because I'm speaking from
personal experience. It's exactly what happened. You know. I love
(02:08):
my mom and she was great and they raised us,
you know, beautifully, but she was very insistent about some things.
And so by the time I came a teen became
a teenager, I was pretty hardheaded in the other direction.
It's like, Okay, so if you tell me not to
do it, there's a good chance I'm gonna do it.
And then that you don't really want to create that,
(02:29):
you know, in your child, So I think, uh. And
I love the conversation watching the conversation play out between
Jody and Phoebe on that. It was very balanced conversation.
You were supportive of what she wanted to do. You
explain what your concerns would be. You explained what considerations
you know that there should be. And I'm not gonna
(02:49):
love it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Everybody that wants to hire you in the future is
not necessarily going to love it. And she's like, I'm
okay with that. And I said, well, good because it
is a very popular thing.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Now, Oh that's cool that she got thought that through.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
She did.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, And you know. So, I mean, to me, when
I look at that today, it's really when she says empowering,
I know that there are a lot of people that
say the same thing, whether it's a piercing or whether
it's a tattoo, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's their haircut or color correct exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
All those things. If it's something that really motivates you
and it's a source of power almost like you keep
the while, Jodi, if it's something that you can draw
that's really meaningful, then I get and I appreciate that,
and I find myself now really genuinely interested. Just like
I love people the story behind people's names, and I
love people's personal stories, I also love the stories behind tattoots.
(03:40):
Is because yeah, because it's just I mean, I feel
like I'll gain something by asking the question. And I
didn't get a chance to do that with one of
our visitors that we had in the building in the
last couple of days, our finance lead. And you know,
I mean, she's she's pretty impressive. I mean, there are
a lot of different things that she does in her life.
You know, she's done pro weightlifting and some things like that.
(04:03):
This is somebody who is really you know, very assertive
and got it together and did y'all both notice it's
just beautiful tattoos that she had on her arms. Yeah,
and I really wanted to know. They were some of
the most colorful, detailed, truly works of art. This was
(04:24):
not She didn't go to some you know, knockoff tattoo artists.
She went to something really knew what they were doing,
and it was beautiful. And I just I would want
to know the story behind that, because a lot of
times it does come down to a.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Reason, a reason, there's a reason.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Anything that makes you feel better you should be able
to do for yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Right. I have a question about the nose ring in particular,
or the septim ring, because I've seen it. You know,
obviously in the last five ten years, a lot of
women have added it or done it.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It is popular.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I just I've always wanted to know is there a reason?
Is there a some kind of reason for it?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And I know you said it makes her feel she
said it.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Makes her feel confident.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
When Phoebe said it makes me feel so confident, she
wasn't even saying that to me. She was saying it
to someone else, and I overheard it and I was like, awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Because it's like I've always wondered, it's popped up so much.
Is it just a fashion statement or is it Are
you making a statement about something?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I don't think she's making a statement about something, but
it's They've been around for thousands of years.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Thousands of years.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
They're used around the world as a rite of passage,
mark of a warrior, sign of your marital status in
some parts of the world. Honestly, I don't know why
that for her. She just honestly likes the look of it.
She liked the look of it for her, and it
was just the mom and me. The first thought was like, really, no,
(05:53):
like the do the nose instead? And literally it took
me a few a few minutes to go okay, how
she sees herself.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
See, Maddie hasn't approached me on that one at all.
I mean, I've never heard her say anything about wanting
any kind of then she doesn't other well, I don't
know that she may not have just she just may
not have told me that I would really like to
do this when I turn eighteen. So now you're making
me want to ask, Maddie, Hey, do you have any
plans on doing that.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Sure. Her birthdays in the summer is summer June fourteenth. Yeah,
so your.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Twins turn eighteen, both of them. Yeah, and they both
have that ability now to do something like that.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
They can both get septum rings. Although on Parker it
might look a little weird.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right, but he is not afraid to be him, so,
is you right?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah? I could see it on Parker because of Parker
is I'll.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Tell you what Phoebe is doing already, depending on certain situations,
it's weird too. She literally can just push it up
into her nose, which makes my nose hurt to think about.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
She pushes it up in there if she doesn't want
it to be seen.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know, she said, do it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Hey, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, that's actually one of the reasons she said she
chose it because if for some reason, you know, she
understands there may be an environment that she's in but
for whatever reason, Look, I think as time goes on,
there are going to be fewer and fewer environments where
that's not embraced. Because it's like anything else, people actually
do change with the times. But she knows that if
it's a certain setting that she just wants to flip
(07:23):
it back up or if the school has an issue
with it or whatever, she can do that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
She did that recently, the first time I saw her
do it. I think she does it at school sometimes
depending on what classroom she's in. But she did it
at a family thing gathering. She wasn't ready to talk
to my side of the family about it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I didn't. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I really went to my cousin, Casey's birthday party. She
had just gotten it okay a week before, and I
didn't say anything to her about it. We walked in
and she started pushing it up and I was like,
are you you're pushing it up there?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Are you comfortable? She goes, yeah, I just don't feel
like talking about it yet.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah. See, when when I got my first tattoos, I
was it was like that way. Really I wanted to
put them. I wanted them, but I wanted them in
a place that I can wear our shirt over it
in case ink in business situations. Now, I haven't gotten
crazy with tattoos. I do have a couple that are visible,
but you're not like huge for me personally, I would
(08:20):
rather keep some of them under wraps.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And that's all all that matters.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, well, I know people do the same thing where
they really because the tattoo means something to them and
they're not wearing it to share it necessarily. They're wearing
it because they know that's their little, you know, personal
empowerment thing that's there on their body and they and
they know it's there and they don't. It's like their
little secret and they like that, Like this giant American
flag I have on.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
My truck right.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
An Phoebe.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Did Phoebe did rock her septum piercing in her senior pictures?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Or are you going to see some of them?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
We'll be seeing some of them very soon. We'll be
sharing some missed any part of the show.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Get it All in the Murph, Sam and Jody Podcast
It's the Murphy Samon Jody after the Show podcast, and
we're flashing back to some of her favorite moments while
we're out on vacation. We'll return on July fifteenth. On
the show Today, Jody, you were talking about our youngest daughter, Phoebe,
who got a piercing for her birthday that she really wanted.
It was septum piercing, and it looks really good on her.
And I know that that was something that you were
(00:22):
concerned about questioning it first.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Because you just my first look, I'm being honest.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, she knows this too, because she and I have
a very open, honest relationship and our girls know, you
get to be who you are. Yeah, you know, it
doesn't matter, but if you ask me what I think
of it, I'm going to be honest with you. And
she asked me, Well, she told me, mom, when I
turn eighteen, I'm going to want I'm going to want
a septum piercing or she said nose piercing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And I said, oh, like Taylor.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Because Taylor, our oldest, has the side and the diamond
and it's really cute. And I was like, oh cool,
you know, and she was like no, the she said,
it's the septum that I want piercing. She started showing
me it's like, I know what it is. And I
was honest with her. I was like, reallybe I asked
the questions instead of instead of saying no, you're not
because I don't do that. They get to be who
they are. But I was honest with her.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I was like, oh, really, are you sure? Are you sure?
Because I just didn't.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
For me, I didn't understand it, like I would never
choose that for me. But you've got to remember that
as a parent, you're not.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Them, correct, They're not you. Yeah, And that's a very
challenging thing to overcome because I know that that's not
something that my mom or dad every right. It was
like the if they didn't believe it should be done,
it wasn't going to do it right exactly. Which is
a really dangerous place to put yourself when you're talking
about things that really are harmless when it comes to
(01:45):
personal expression and things that you know, because different things
feel empowering to different people, and so if you push
too hard against that and it's not really something that's
going to cause true physical harm or a real problem,
then then you're going to do is create a rebelliousness,
you know. And I know that because I'm speaking from
personal experience. It's exactly what happened. You know. I love
(02:08):
my mom and she was great and they raised us,
you know, beautifully, but she was very insistent about some things.
And so by the time I came a teen became
a teenager, I was pretty hardheaded in the other direction.
It's like, Okay, so if you tell me not to
do it, there's a good chance I'm gonna do it.
And then that you don't really want to create that,
(02:29):
you know, in your child, So I think, uh. And
I love the conversation watching the conversation play out between
Jody and Phoebe on that. It was very balanced conversation.
You were supportive of what she wanted to do. You
explain what your concerns would be. You explained what considerations
you know that there should be. And I'm not gonna
(02:49):
love it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Everybody that wants to hire you in the future is
not necessarily going to love it. And she's like, I'm
okay with that. And I said, well, good because it
is a very popular thing.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Now, Oh that's cool that she got thought that through.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
She did.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, And you know. So, I mean, to me, when
I look at that today, it's really when she says empowering,
I know that there are a lot of people that
say the same thing, whether it's a piercing or whether
it's a tattoo, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's their haircut or color correct exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
All those things. If it's something that really motivates you
and it's a source of power almost like you keep
the while, Jodi, if it's something that you can draw
that's really meaningful, then I get and I appreciate that,
and I find myself now really genuinely interested. Just like
I love people the story behind people's names, and I
love people's personal stories, I also love the stories behind tattoots.
(03:40):
Is because yeah, because it's just I mean, I feel
like I'll gain something by asking the question. And I
didn't get a chance to do that with one of
our visitors that we had in the building in the
last couple of days, our finance lead. And you know,
I mean, she's she's pretty impressive. I mean, there are
a lot of different things that she does in her life.
You know, she's done pro weightlifting and some things like that.
(04:03):
This is somebody who is really you know, very assertive
and got it together and did y'all both notice it's
just beautiful tattoos that she had on her arms. Yeah,
and I really wanted to know. They were some of
the most colorful, detailed, truly works of art. This was
(04:24):
not She didn't go to some you know, knockoff tattoo artists.
She went to something really knew what they were doing,
and it was beautiful. And I just I would want
to know the story behind that, because a lot of
times it does come down to a.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Reason, a reason, there's a reason.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Anything that makes you feel better you should be able
to do for yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Right. I have a question about the nose ring in particular,
or the septim ring, because I've seen it. You know,
obviously in the last five ten years, a lot of
women have added it or done it.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It is popular.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I just I've always wanted to know is there a reason?
Is there a some kind of reason for it?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And I know you said it makes her feel she
said it.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Makes her feel confident.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
When Phoebe said it makes me feel so confident, she
wasn't even saying that to me. She was saying it
to someone else, and I overheard it and I was like, awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Because it's like I've always wondered, it's popped up so much.
Is it just a fashion statement or is it Are
you making a statement about something?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I don't think she's making a statement about something, but
it's They've been around for thousands of years.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Thousands of years.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
They're used around the world as a rite of passage,
mark of a warrior, sign of your marital status in
some parts of the world. Honestly, I don't know why
that for her. She just honestly likes the look of it.
She liked the look of it for her, and it
was just the mom and me. The first thought was like, really, no,
(05:53):
like the do the nose instead? And literally it took
me a few a few minutes to go okay, how
she sees herself.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
See, Maddie hasn't approached me on that one at all.
I mean, I've never heard her say anything about wanting
any kind of then she doesn't other well, I don't
know that she may not have just she just may
not have told me that I would really like to
do this when I turn eighteen. So now you're making
me want to ask, Maddie, Hey, do you have any
plans on doing that.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Sure. Her birthdays in the summer is summer June fourteenth. Yeah,
so your.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Twins turn eighteen, both of them. Yeah, and they both
have that ability now to do something like that.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
They can both get septum rings. Although on Parker it
might look a little weird.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right, but he is not afraid to be him, so,
is you right?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah? I could see it on Parker because of Parker
is I'll.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Tell you what Phoebe is doing already, depending on certain situations,
it's weird too. She literally can just push it up
into her nose, which makes my nose hurt to think about.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
She pushes it up in there if she doesn't want
it to be seen.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You know, she said, do it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Hey, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, that's actually one of the reasons she said she
chose it because if for some reason, you know, she
understands there may be an environment that she's in but
for whatever reason, Look, I think as time goes on,
there are going to be fewer and fewer environments where
that's not embraced. Because it's like anything else, people actually
do change with the times. But she knows that if
it's a certain setting that she just wants to flip
(07:23):
it back up or if the school has an issue
with it or whatever, she can do that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
She did that recently, the first time I saw her
do it. I think she does it at school sometimes
depending on what classroom she's in. But she did it
at a family thing gathering. She wasn't ready to talk
to my side of the family about it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I didn't. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I really went to my cousin, Casey's birthday party. She
had just gotten it okay a week before, and I
didn't say anything to her about it. We walked in
and she started pushing it up and I was like,
are you you're pushing it up there?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Are you comfortable? She goes, yeah, I just don't feel
like talking about it yet.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah. See, when when I got my first tattoos, I
was it was like that way. Really I wanted to
put them. I wanted them, but I wanted them in
a place that I can wear our shirt over it
in case ink in business situations. Now, I haven't gotten
crazy with tattoos. I do have a couple that are visible,
but you're not like huge for me personally, I would
(08:20):
rather keep some of them under wraps.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And that's all all that matters.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, well, I know people do the same thing where
they really because the tattoo means something to them and
they're not wearing it to share it necessarily. They're wearing
it because they know that's their little, you know, personal
empowerment thing that's there on their body and they and
they know it's there and they don't. It's like their
little secret and they like that, Like this giant American
flag I have on.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
My truck right.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
An Phoebe.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Did Phoebe did rock her septum piercing in her senior pictures?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Or are you going to see some of them?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
We'll be seeing some of them very soon. We'll be
sharing some missed any part of the show.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
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