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March 13, 2026 15 mins

It's Friday the 13th - the day Jodi's grandmother wouldn't go outside - at all. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jody after the Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's Friday the thirteenth, and I have some stuff to
say about this day. I didn't realize it, and we
talked about it in Three Things to Know Today. Well,
this year, twenty twenty six, it feels like we just
had one, and we did just have one the last week,
and we have one now. Our next one this year
is in November. But it's only about every eleven years
that you have several in the same year calendar year.

(00:26):
But I didn't know this and we didn't get to
it in the show. Is that Friday the thirteenth is
the most widespread superstition in the United States.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Really, it's still alive and well, there are.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
People who won't fly today, who won't leave their homes today,
who won't.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Do stuff today because of the date.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Like more so than Black Cats and Under.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Apparently it's the biggest one.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
When people are surveyed, what are you superstitious about? Friday
the thirteenth is at the top, And I had no idea.
But I do have a little history with it. You guys, Murphy,
I know you never knew my grandma Thelma, Mama Thelma She.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Passed away before you and I even started dating.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
She passed away when I was like ten or eleven
years old.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh, I didn't realize that she.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Was I think I was ten or eleven or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I have really fond memories of her. She was a character.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
She was so funny and so fun but so quirky.
She was extremely superstitious. So she was not okay with owls,
pictures of owls in her house, no way.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
She thought they were bad. It's so funny because I
grew up to love owls, like I want one.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
But I remember she was so super superstitious that one
time we were in the car with her, driving around
town and we went to visit a friend of hers
who lived in a little old house.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I guess you would call it a shotgun house.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, just a straight old house up on you know
here and Beam and there's it's a straight shot back
and there's a front entrance and there's a back exit.
And we visited her friend, Pearl.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
This is an old story. I was a little child,
and they visited all day long.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I mean, I'm telling you, my mama with the cat glasses,
smoking cigarettes and drinking beer in the afternoon on the
front porch, a superstitious woman who was hysterical, who was
always blaring country music. Yeah and so, and her hair
was dyed red, Like I'm a natural redhead.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Her hair was dyed red. And I never got to the.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Truth of what her natural hair color was because I
was told, don't ask. Oh really, Yeah, I loved her
so much. She was such a character. Well, anyway, we
go to see miss Pearl, and we walk in the
front door, and we visit for a while, and my
brother and I leave the front door and go out

(02:56):
to find to her big green, long car, and like,
where there's mama. And she had walked out the back
door because she wouldn't walk out the same door that
she came in. That is how superstitious she was, So
she walked out of a different door.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well what would she do if she went into a
store that only had one entrance.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I don't know. I guess she'd walk out the front door.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, honestly, I was very little with all this,
and it was normal to be around her in her quirkiness.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know, the superstition about that.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Why I probably touch bad luck Jody. Well, yeah, but
I mean, I don't know that one. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I don't even know what the owl is a bad superstition.
I would have to look up all of those things
because I've heard that before. Well, they've become all these
superstitions have become so cliche. Doesn't mean they're not real
to people, but they've become so cliche. Yeah, you know,
one of the origins of any of them, you just
kind of, you know, accept them for what they are.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
The origins.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Now, I've always heard about the number thirteen being a
biblical thing or because of the twelve disciples, but the
thirteen was the bad luck or something like that.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I mean read that once.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
That was not taught to me by my other grandparents
who were in the church and Papa who was the preacher.
Mama Felma was the other side of my family, you know,
I mean, church was country music.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
There are tall buildings that don't have thirteenth floors, but
some do. I mean, I guess it depends, but I
mean that's a I don't know if that's something that's
changed over the years. My grandfather said Friday the thirteenth
was a lucky day, but I actually don't know why.
I don't know if he just said that because he
was funny or he didn't. He wasn't superstitious about that,
But that's the way for.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Him to flip it and go, I'm going to turn
this into a positive. I'm not going to be affected.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I think that's the kind of person that he was.
I mean, he was a He's somebody that I wish
i'd known better because he died when I was ten
years old. Same thing, And he was just this very
unique kind of unicorn like character who was super inventive,
super smart, very gregarious. All of his friends loved him.
I mean, he was just a, you know, a great guy.

(04:57):
So you're probably right. Probably he probably just said that,
you know, to flip it.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, Yeah, that's really actually cool too, to not go
with the flow, to flip it just I mean, I think,
isn't it. Taylor Swift's the thirteen is her favorite lucky number. Yeah,
And so I bring it up because she's the most
superstitious person I ever knew. My brother and I were
also in the car with her one day in the

(05:22):
back seat. I was probably in the back seat, he
was probably in the front, but we were on our
way somewhere and we were so excited to go. I
can't remember where, small country town. It was probably the store.
She turned around and brought us back home because a
black cat pss the road.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yes, wait all the way. She didn't just try to
avoid it. She took you home.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
She went home. I'm telling you she I'm not making
this up. She was that superstitious. Wow, she and you
talk about somebody. I wish I would like she died
when I was so young. I would love to have
a conversation with her now because she was just a
woman from a different time.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
But she was such a character.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I feel like she would have so much to teach me,
and I would want to pour things into her.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well. I wonder if she also had you know, not
to go like so psychological on this, but when you're
superstitious of a lot of different things, I wonder if
that's rooted in fears that come from childhood or other
anxieties or whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
You know, she had some rough experiences growing up. I
know that a little bit about her, But I do
wish I could I could talk to her, Oh my gosh.
And you know, it's one reason that my wedding ring
is so special to me. Not just because you gave
me the band, Murphy. The band was what Murphy gave me.
The ring was my grandmother, Mama Felma's, and she was

(06:42):
given this ring. If you are listening to this and
not seeing it, I'm holding the ring up. I was
given this when she passed away. Well sorry, before she
passed away, she and my grandfather had had a big
anniversary and he gave her this diamond ring as an
anniversary gift. And I would go over to the house
and she would let me wear it, and I would

(07:02):
prance around the house and pretend like I was a
grown big stuff. And I was eight years old walking
around wearing a gown, pretending I was big, grown girl,
you know. And she would let me wear it, and
I couldn't believe it. And so when she passed away,
my family saved that ring for me and I got it.

(07:23):
I was given it when I was eighteen. I didn't
wear it for a long time, either because I felt
like it was too big for me or too grown up.
At eighteen, I didn't feel like I should be rocking
my mama's ring anyway. That's another reason it's special to me.
I loved her, and of course they're real diamonds. They're
probably superstitious diamonds. Anyway, So Friday the thirteenth I always

(07:46):
think of her. I hate that she was, you know,
lived in fear of things like that. But she didn't
seem to let it. Really, she let it change her
course like we would like the time we went home.
She let it affect her.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
But yeah, I get the superstitions originated before there was
really science to back things. And I was reading an
article about how easy it is to look and laugh
about how society was in the past, but they didn't
know any different. I mean, it's really and there will
be things that we believe are true right now that
in another one hundred years will be totally different. Also,

(08:19):
you know the same thing, But I would I know
you said that Friday the thirteenth is still the top superstition.
I just wonder in general, if people people are less
superstitious than before, the would have to think. So, is
there anything that you are superstitious about, Jody, You don't.
We've been married for a long time. I can't think

(08:39):
of anything, Sam, are you superstitious of anything? Now?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
When I was a kid, I had a rabbit's foot
for what reason somebody gave it to you and so
yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Green, and I had Well, if you have something, you know,
for good luck, then I guess that could be a
superstitious kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But to me, it's just a that's that upset me
when those were going around, When those were around, yeah,
when we were growing up, because I knew it was
a foot that belonged to a bunny.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Three legged rabbits running bothered me a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I have two two superstitions. I think I know one
of them.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Okay, what is it?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Six six six?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, well it doesn't like the numbers, but it's the
that's only if I'm driving in my odometer, if it
lands on any version of six sixty six together, I'll
drive another mile. And our former producer Emily used to
make fun of me. In fact, she would always screenshot
it when her card did that and send it to
me because it's a running joke. But I don't know why,
but I still will. And it's route. I mean it literally.

(09:42):
I know that there are the there's the whole religious
thing around it, but that's not what that's rooted in
for me. It's just I don't know, it's a thing okay,
and and maybe that's where it came from.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
But should I know the other one? It's killing me
to not know.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
You know, I don't know that you would know the
other one until I actually say it. Okay, because this
is a newer one, and it's probably something that I've
been doing now for fifteen years, same pair of underwear.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh wait, wait, how long have you been doing it?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Probably fifteen years? In fact, I got it in my Oh.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I know what it is.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh, I know what it is.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Oh, I need to grab I want to show this
on our YouTube channel. I need to grab this and
show it to you. Okay, can I grab it real quick?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I know what it is. I'll tell you another story
while we wait for Murphy to come back. About my
grandmama Felma. I think I've mentioned to this to you
before to show you what a different time she came from.
Because when I was eight or nine years old, I
was at her house on a Saturday morning. My dad
and my grandfather and a couple of other men in
the family went hunting early in the morning, and me

(10:48):
and Mama Thelma were at the house and she was
cooking for them, like.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
A big pot of stew.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Or something, and she was showing me how to cook,
and she said, now, when the men get back, Jody,
we're gonna they're gonna get to eat. We're gonna serve
them some food, and then we're gonna sit over here.
We're not gonna sit with them. And I was like, what,
I'm gonna sit with my daddy. You better believe I'm
gonna sit with my daddy. And she was like, no,
we're gonna let the men. She was from a different time,

(11:16):
and I remember thinking I didn't say it to her
because I respected her. And I realized I was the child,
she was the adult. I remember thinking, that's an older
way of thinking, and I am not going to be
like that when I grow up.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I will be respectful of the men in my life, obviously.
And I did you sit with your dad? I think
I did.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I think I just like sat on his lap for
a few minutes. I had missed him or whatever. But
just a different She was a different woman from a
different time.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Okay, moving on to Murphy brought his baggage trick.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I really don't walk out of the room during the podcast,
but let me make sure I actually have it on.
Do you know what this is and I'm pretty sure
that I do.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay, no, nothing, I'm not superstitious.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
She is when she says she's not superstitious, Sam, she.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Got the red hair.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I got the lot of superstitious. Yeah, that's superstitios. So
before I pull it out, what do you think it is?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
It's a bracelet that our daughter Taylor made you years
ago when she was doing all those Yeah, and you
travel with it.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, it's a loom bracelet eye And so this is
when I guess it's a superstition because she made that.
When loom brace it's really popular and a ton so
this is a thick. It's got the green green bands
on it, black white bands if you're not looking at
it on the YouTube channel, and it's been in your
bag since yeah, and it just it's just because I

(12:39):
was wearing it for a long time when she and
you probably you may remember me wearing it in the room.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I wore some of them too.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
But whenever I would travel with it, it wound up
in my backpack because I'd been wearing it for a while.
And so after a while I realized, well, I've been
traveling with it forever. I'm not going to not travel
with it anymore. So, no matter what I do, when
I get new bags, different bags or whatever, before I
get on any flight, going anywhere on a trip, or
driving on any trip, balloombraced it. But it stays with

(13:08):
me all the time.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And she knows it, right, Oh, she knows. Yeah. I'll
take a picture of it every now and then in
senator and say, hey, remember you made this for me.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
That means everything to children that you cherish the things
they made you and gave you.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
What's weird is now that I've done it, I can't
travel without it. So I guess that's the definition of
a superstition. It's like nothing's going to happen if I
don't take it with me. Yeah, right, So I mean
I take it with me, and then it's got the
double meaning, you know, because tailor made it and.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's like a little security blanket or something in your mind.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
But you know, I mean, because I am one of
those kind of compulsive obsessive types. There's nothing else that
I'm superstitious about, right.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
No, Well I don't think so you think planes are
going to take off without you?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, that's not superstition, that's time manage me.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, okay, So anyway, just so you know, today's that day,
and you may find among you that there are, you know,
superstitious people that you didn't realize who move differently, live differently,
feel the day differently. The other thing I wanted to
tell you guys, this is a cute little and we'll
move on. But tomorrow is Pie Day, March fourteenth, three

(14:17):
point one four and Taylor and Phoebe are working on
tomorrow tomorrow night. They work at a catering facility and
they host all kinds of things reunions and parties and weddings.
And so I was hanging out with Phoebe yesterday and
she I was talking about, you know, what are y'all doing.
She's tending bar for this one. Taylor's like the manager,

(14:37):
one of the managers of it. And she said, yeah,
it's a wedding. I said great, she said yeah, And
because it's three fourteen, they're serving little pies to everybody.
It's a couple who's getting married on Pie Day, and
tie is a part of the ceremony.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
So that's cute.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know. I never really thought about math being funny
or a joke, but this oneida really has become yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
We made it non mathematical pie. We made it food
pie in this country, So get a pizza today, get
a pie today, and you'll probably get a discount.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
As the food dude told us

Speaker 1 (15:08):
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