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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Jony. After the show podcast,
Ronda called.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The show today with ay keep the wow being that
she's never traveled alone. We loved hearing from you, Rhanda.
She her husband passed away last year and they had
been planning a cruise together, but he passed away suddenly,
and she's going on a cruise anyway in April. Love
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that shout out to you, your life matters just as
much while you grieve this relationship. And it made me
start to think, you know, she said that the wow
was that she We've talked about that kind of thing
here a.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Lot about.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Sam goes on solo trips, you know, have lunch with
just yourself. Do think have a relationship with just yourself?
And I thought, you know, I've never traveled alone. I
mean I did the one little getaway weekend once Murphy,
like you do. You know, Murphy really does self improvement.
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When he does that, he really goes and gets focused
on goals and things like that.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I went, you know, shopping and took naps and but you.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Know what that's but that's it's probably has the same effect.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I liked it a lot. I think I really grat.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I mean it's a balanced thing. I mean, I've learned
my share of how the right way to do that
in the wrong way. I'm actually doing another one here
in a couple of weeks. Yeah, I decided to do
it this year, not in the dead of summer, but
you know, actually, you.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Know, so he's doing it soon. But I was gonna
say I could.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I think I could travel alone and I probably would
get a lot out of it.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But I've never done it. What is it really like, Sam?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Great?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, how is it different from your daily life?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I will tell you the downside of it really quick.
First is that you don't have the person next to
you to share it with. And that and that with
me being single, is what I find a lot. You know,
sitting on the sofa watching the Billy Joel documentary. You
want to go, oh wow, and yeah, okay, waste of time.
But that's just one little thing against all the other
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things to me that stack up. I mean, it's great
to be on my schedule. I pick the flight I
want to take, I get up when I want to
get up, I do what I want for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner. I make all the plans and I know
this is sounding selfish, but I'm the only one there,
so I'm.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Doing it all. Sure, and it's all on my schedule,
and sure.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
What's wrong with pleasing yourself? Not a thing?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, I think now when I say I could travel alone,
I could. And I have a lot of curiosity about
the world and there are a lot of things I
want to do. Little things I you know, not outrageous,
but I would be feeling like, wait, I need to
tell Parphy this.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Or you know, I would probably be blowing your phone up.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, I mean we do, I mean like extended vacations. Now, Sam,
your situation is different because you are single. You have
no plan to be in a relationship, and so it's
the way you live your life every day. Yeah, for
somebody who is married and living their daily life, I
think if both in the marriage are you know, good
with it, and that's exactly how you are. It's a
healthy separation and good way to do things, and it
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doesn't have to be some elaborate trip. But it's different
because you're you're purposely focusing on yourself in the midst
of the relationship, you know, on things that are uniquely yours.
My friend Naisha does something that She literally calls it
her own date night, where she will just go see
a movie or do something because she's got kids and
you know, a husband and all that, but and she
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has a lot. She doesn't do it all the time,
but that's exactly what she does. So the scale doesn't
have to be travel or vacation, but the context is
definitely different when you're in a relationship because I think
you feel this artificial pressure to do everything together.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be Hopefully you're in
the kind of relationship where your person not only respects
your individualness, your individualism, but also maybe I mean, I
find it more attractive. I like that you do your
own thing, and it gives us new things to talk about.
When you come back from your getaways, I don't hear
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about you don't talk to me about it the whole time,
like I don't hear a bunch of a bunch from you.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You don't blow up my phone.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But when you do get back from your getaways, I
get to hear all about it, and it's nice to
do that all at once. I look forward to that.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
You know it's from and one of the other things,
and you're going to find this hard to believe is
as I'm the introvert, is I do meet people. I
don't mean I'm going looking for, you know, dates while
I'm on these solo sam trips. But it's like if
I'm going to a concert and I'm sitting on the lawn,
there are people all around you. They're there for the
same reason. Definitely common interest built in. First, what song
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you're looking forward to? Oh, I've saw them here?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And no, that doesn't surprise me as much as you think.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean, I know we see the introvert on the daily,
but it doesn't surprise me that you.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Want some people doing those I'm in my element.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yes, yeah, meaning you're the you. You just you choose
to do it or not on where.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I want to be.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, okay, yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well what is your next Are you doing a solo
trip this summer? Because I think you're traveling with your son, right, yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Say trip this summer? Sammy, my oldest, wanted to do
something together because I had talked about going to Chicago
and he's like, yeah, I've always wanted to go to Chicago,
and it just kind of got around to let's go
together because we know we're going to want to go
see a Cubs game. Other than that, we are really
what we've been looking at comedians that are stopping by,
or concerts or just every time something pops up in Chicago. Oh,
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we got to go eat at this pizza place.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
So we're kind of putting it together and the two
of us are going to go five or six days
and have fun. Now, I will at some point try
to sneak in a even if it's a long weekend
solo sam trip, because I still need.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
To get that.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah. Good. See, that's a relationship.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That's having a healthy relationship with yourself and giving yourself
a vacation, a break from your everyday life.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And that's also when you are single, you know, like
you are, which is not a joke, by the way,
I'm not saying that in a joking way. There's nobody
to push you to go do that.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
You have to push yourself to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And so, like Jody's saying, that's a healthy thing, pushing
yourself out of a comfort zone or out of your
routine more than anything else, because our routine is such
a weird thing. It's a comfort but it's handcuffs at
the same time, Yes, and you really have to, you know,
you have to balance it all, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Allow And I'll tell you this too.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Because of my personality, sometimes I turned into my own
personal Honeydew because it's like, if I'm going on the
solo sam trip to somewhere, ah this, I know where
I'm going, I know what I want to do. I
got time to make the reservations. I got time to
do that. And so it always comes down to like
two weeks before the trip, Okay, I got to book
this vacation.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You feel your own pressure, your own pressure. I always
thought it was really funny when you first started doing
the solo vacations that your mom missed. Judy didn't understand.
I love that because I understand. Her point of view
is that why would you What did.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
She say to you? Why why are you going by yourself?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah, she and my dad did everything together, and when
we were kids, the family did everything together. So yeah,
that's what she's used to, and that's also generational, that's
what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, my parents would have never done anything like that separately.
Even though it's a very you know, I mean, it's
a healthy thing to do. But again, there's nothing wrong
with that there's some people that do want to do
all those things together, and there's yeah, yeah, it's a
combination of you know, of all of it. I think
after someone's passing, which is really what you know, brought
you know this up, and Ronda and so Ronda and
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actually others who've reached out in the past to is
the same thing. Is part of that is cathartic. It's
probably very difficult in that setting to really challenge yourself
to go out there and do that, but you know
it it opens up I think a lot of things
that are very you know, healing. It gets you out
of the environment once again. It's it's a change of scenery.
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But I'm sure it's extra difficult at that point too,
because if you were a couple that did do everything
together and that's not what you're used to, that first
time stepping out to do that, you know, it could
be you can feel challenging, but you know what, I
bet you in round this case, it will be very rewarding.
In fact, I'm sure, Ronda, I hope if you're listening
to this podcast, you'll let us know how the cruise goes.
And you know, and you know, as we know, you're
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on a journey. It's not gonna it's not going to
take away the sting and the changes that you've been
through and you know, recently, but but it certainly puts
you on that path future.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yeah, so live it.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Going back to my mother, when my dad passed away
and she's had to start doing stuff on her own,
she did say stuff like that that, yeah, I wish
your daddy was here to do this with him. Or
when she did stuff, she would talk to my dad, Yeah, Sam,
you'd you'd enjoy this, when oh, look dad, Dad would
love this, And it's like it took her a while
to get to do I don't even know if she's
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over that now.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Right, no, wrong way, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It could be that he is still very much a
part of her life in ways that we don't know,
in ways that she doesn't share.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And that's fine too. It's just lovely, you know, the
thought that.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Even if you're in a happy marriage, you still do
need to focus on yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You have a relationship with yourself. You have to have it.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Can I ask you both a question a personal question
that y y okay, forget about the retreat, Murphy, If
there is something that you really want to do that.
You know, Jody's not going to be interested in where
would that trip be and what would it be? Same
for you, Jody, I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I mean, honestly, I don't know because there's so many
places I want to go see. I'm fine if Jody
didn't want to do that and I did, then I
would be comfortable going solo. But I'm not as traveled
as I would like to be. Yeah, So I don't
know that there's anyone that comes to, you know, mine,
because I think that's part of what Jody and I
were at the phase where our girls are not living
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with us now. So a lot of these things we're
probably going to want to do together. But I don't
think we have to write.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We don't have to, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
For me, we've had we've had some women over the
years right into the show, and one of the ideas
was and this lady, I think her name was Kathy.
She said, I do my own get away every once
in a while. She's a busy career, working mother, and
she goes to she picks a hotel, maybe in town,
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maybe not in town, but she goes for a couple
of nights, checks in eats room service, goes to the spa,
watches movies, does whatever she wants to do. I could
do that any weekend, right, and I have not done
that yet. Whenever I did my one little retreat for
a weekend, it was two nights, forty five minutes an
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hour away. At I did a bed and breakfast, and
that was the bed and breakfast where the lady who
was running the place kept coming in and.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Talking to me the whole time. She was really nice.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But the next time I get away, I might do
that instead.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Murphy, I mean whatever you think, you know, I mean, Sam,
that's a really difficult question because there are there maybe
there's one thing that I would do, and there are
different versions of this. And this reminds me, by the way, too,
it's at any stage in your life. If you're just
you know, getting out of college or maybe out of
high school, and you're of the legal age to travel
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and all those things, and you want to do something
you haven't done before, there's never there's not a time
in your life that it's not beneficial. What I'm saying,
it's really at any at any age, at any point
that you're in your life, during whatever stage you're in it,
it's beneficial. But you know, for me, I think I
would like to experience one of these meditation retreats that
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are almost in total silence the entire time, right, because
I think that would be therapeutic not to touch a phone,
you know, for twenty four hours, which, by the way,
doesn't really give me fomo. You know the thing, even
my retreats, like Jody says, I'm not really hitting her
up very often. You know, for anything, if there's an
occasional share, I don't completely unplug because you know, if
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she needs me, that's the the whole thing. But you know,
if there were a trip and I know that the
girls were in town or whatever, and you know all
the backups are in place that I could actually disconnect
for a good twenty four hours, I think I'd do that,
And that may be something that I'll just do in
the near future. It's really I love the path that
all that has taken me on, and but I want
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to experience it in the true, true sense beyond just
ten minutes of morning.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Right. I think you would love that, and I think
that's so great for you to have been drawn to that.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, to come upon I.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Know we did meditation.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We talked about meditation a lot yesterday in the after
the Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But you of all the people.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I've ever known whose mind is always clicking, yeah, you
need that more. You need that, probably maybe more than
anybody I know. And I'm so sam and you know
mine's always clicking.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
There are different flavors of that kind of retreat. There's
man Resa, which I think is primarily Catholic, but it's
overly religious and they don't exclude anybody from that, you know.
The non religious route can be just you know, a
centered sort of a you know, meditative practice. There are
a lot of different options, you know, for that, and
there are plenty of different you know groups and health
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organizations and others that actually sponsor and do these things
pretty regularly.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I was going to suggest one for you, Murphy, but
I figured I just realized, if you go, then I
have to go with you.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
So it's not Solow. It's the Cees in Las Vegas,
the Electronics Show. Yeah, I know Jody would have no
interest in that.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I would go to Vegas, but I just will do
other things in Vegas. You guys wouldn't see me for
a few days. We can stay in the same room Murphy, obviously,
but I would love that.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
The reason we don't ever get to do that one
is it's always right after the Christmas holidays and we've
already been on vacation.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, that makes that That makes that one oddit, you know,
and different.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
It's just something to remember and think about.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You're so right, Murphy, do things for yourself, do little getaways.
You know, it doesn't always have to be some sort
of family trip or an obligation to share every single
moment of your life. You can do things and it
doesn't have to be Italy. It can be something forty
five minutes away.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
It doesn't have to cost any money at all. You
know what I'm saying you literally can you know your
on escape can be in your own town. If it's
not something that fits into a budget. Just the fact
that you're actually disconnected and the routine makes the difference.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
It is the ultimate. It's self care. Yeah, so thank you, Ronda.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes, Ronda, and for that, you know, discussion today, I
wanted to go a little further because it really touched
me in many ways.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
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