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March 30, 2026 13 mins

After 3 years of treatment, Jodi gets a strong update on her "weak" bones.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jody. After the show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know how we said and today's morning pick me
up that it's such a gift to have a canceled meeting.
Everybody loves it when a meeting is canceled and you
have all this free time. Well, so on Friday afternoon,
when we were getting ready to leave here, I got
a call from my doctor's office. I had a very
important doctor's appointment, you know, Murphy. This was my follow

(00:25):
up since my bone scan. I do have osteopenia, I
do have osteoporosis. I am high risk for a bone fracture.
I'm not allowed to ever get on roller skates again,
et cetera.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm over climbing trees.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
And know, by the way, you're on the very much
young end, probably below the young end of whorred's normally
discovered and diagnosed.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
One doctor told me, Jody, you've got the bones of
an eighty year old woman and feel good.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
That's a part of joking. But there's only.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Parts of my body that are that way, where the
bone is especially weak and hollowed out, which makes me
a high risk for a fracture. So yes, I have
been treating this aggressively for three years. Once a year
I had these infusions. I had an infusion, and you
can only have three of them because of the possible
side effects.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So that's been done.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And after my third infusion, I had a bone scan,
and so this appointment on Friday was the doctor going
over my bone scan with me my results.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Like what are your results? Did it work? And what
is the where are we going from here?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Because I've also been told Murphy, you know that it's
not like I'll take medicine or infusions and be done
and like da da dah. I have to treat it
for the rest of my life. I have to treat
it for the rest of my life. Otherwise, another doctor
told me, your bones will continue to eat themselves. But
you know what, I appreciate that kind of language because
that helps me. I'd rather a story like that because

(01:47):
that sticks in my gut. When I'm doing all the
things like eating all the calcium, eating all the yogurt,
and doing all the things I'm trying to do to
help myself, I need to hear that my bones are
eating themselves. I need to stop that. So anyway, I
keep getting this phone call when we were trying to
wrap up and leave Friday afternoon, and.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'm like, I think that might be my doctor's office.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
And Murphy's like answer that, yeah, they were respectfully requesting
I do it tella appointment or whatever. And I was like, oh, okay,
I kind of wanted to be in the room with him.
He's a very hands on doctor and I really like him,
and I just wanted to be in the room with him.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's very important to me. It's a vulnerable appointment to me.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
But it was like, no, he wants to do it
with you via whatever screen.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
So I went home.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I got in the family room in my comfortable spot, Murph,
I logged in plenty early, all that good stuff. I
made sure the dogs had been handled so they wouldn't
bother me. So do you want to know what went
wrong first? Or do you want to know what I
was told about my bones?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well? First, was he on the beach?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
No, oh, No, he was in it looked like his home.
He was in an office, he was at his at
a desk.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Of course, has those backgrounds. You have a white jacket
on too his head.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, he did not. He wasn't running game on me.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I mean he was so thorough, he was wonderful, and
he may have been in his home office, not my business,
he was still giving me his undivided attention. He was
looking at my bone scan, you know, as results as
we started. So you want to know the health stuff first,
and then what went wrong.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
He doesn't know.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
So the health stuff is this, there has been slight
improvement in my bone density since those three infusions of
a drug called Reclassed, but I can't take any more
of them because the possible side effects could be like
dental issues, and you don't want to mess with that.
So okay, great, only like a three point four percent increase,

(03:49):
which really sounds bad. But he says, look, we're trending
in the right direction, but your bones can you know,
whatever medicine we're doing, your bones are also working against it.
At the same time. You're genetically disposed to this. You
didn't do anything wrong, but we just have to manage
it and fight it. And so we can't do that.
So what he's recommending is a different course of treatment.

(04:10):
It's a different drug. And I was so hopeful he
didn't tell me just like pills or something like that.
I don't know, just something about I wanted to be
more fierce with it. Yeah, yeah, okay, you understand what
I wanted.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Something that I wanted a treat.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
You want an infusion, you want something that goes straight
in the veins?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yes, And he says you are going to We're going
to try a drug he named the drug, and then
he said you can You have a choice, Jody. You
can come to this, come to our offices and get
it an injection once a month of this drug, or
you can inject yourself at home every day.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I was like, I'll see you on Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I mean that's sufficient, right.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Well, it's also that's not why I chose it. I
mean a lot of people who want to be home
more would probably say I want to do it myself.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
But I am not person.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't want to give myself injections unless I have to.
I know you do, Murphy, because you are you have diabetes,
and you have to. You had to. You can't go
to you have to do that all the time. I
don't want to trust myself with something so important. I'd
rather walk in.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
How you do it, I agree with that, but it
is time. It's time efficient doing something every day that
you have to focus on five minutes or not adds up.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
You're right, I didn't think of it that way. I
thought of it.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I want a professional giving me this medicine that's murphy. No,
oh no, I didn't think of that.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Where did he say you have to give?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I didn't ask. I didn't care. Hopefully in the booty.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It depends on whether it's intramuscular or you know, subcutaneous.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
And that's what I told Jody.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
But this is not guaranteed yet.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Because this I hope this is the course of treatment,
but insurance has to approve it. He has to make
the case where she does need this. You know, here's
the proof, here the bone scans, here's her age. She
needs this treatment, and insurance is of course in power.
He said, it'll be about two weeks before I know
for sure whether this will be the course of treatment

(06:04):
or if we have to look at something else.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I'm sure that's the age thing too, that a
lot of insurance companies won't pay for certain things until
you're over a certain name.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well the other thing though, he was like, towards the
end of this discussion, and it's Friday afternoon, I'm in
the family room, and he's like, do you have any
questions for me? And we talked about my you know,
blood panel results because I had done blood work for
him days before he was talking to me, and everything
is in the right range where it should be. I
was like, great, Like everything like vitamin D and calcium,

(06:36):
which is very was very important for me to get
back into my system when I realized I had this
because I had slacked off on it for years, and
not that He even said, there's no amount of vitamini
and calcium you could have given yourself that would have
prevented you getting this. It would have just been better
for you, for your bones, for you to have been
doing it. So I said, okay, now that we know
my bones are a little bit better, am I still

(06:59):
supposed to take the same amount of calcium and vitamin D?
And should I continue to do it separately? Because what
I take is a calcium and a vitamin D separate.
You can buy them together. And he started to explain
to me, and anyway, the way I phrased the question
was how much vitamin D and calcium do I need

(07:20):
every day? And I mean me after having all this treatment.
I said those words, and what do you think happened? Murphy,
our stupid smart speaker loudly answered.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
And wouldn't shut up.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
The amount of calcium and vitamin D you need every day?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I did. I begged her to stop repeatedly. I would
not because.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I asked a question, not to her, but she thought
it was of her. The way I asked it, I
guess was sort of robotic when I said to him, Okay,
so how much vitamin D and calcium do you recommend
I have every day? And I mean me, not just
in any person, but she answered for any person. And
I couldn't make her stop.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
So it was a Google.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
I think it was Google in the family room by
the tea. That's Google. Yeah, Gemini, Murphy's got stuff everywhere.
So I'm like, and I'm so embarrassed. I'm on the
screen and I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I can't
make her stop, and I was like, stop, No, I
was doing all that, and she would not stop.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
She finished her whole FDA spiel in the middle of the.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Did she say she's not a doctor and you should
seek medical advice from No?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
No, Because I was so busy.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I always do that theme.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I was so busy apologizing to him, and you know
what he was doing, he was laughing.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
He probably didn't hear it because the noise cancelation anytime
that we're on like teams, meetings or zoom calls, it
winds up being you know, people apologize for their dogs
barking and all that, and I don't hear anything. Or
do you hear that loud clapping and thundering. No, I
don't hear that. So maybe did he say he heard it,
or he.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Did he heard it, he could hear it. He was
like he said something about the kind of advice she
was giving.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
But wasn't the same advice as him.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You know, I don't know because I couldn't hear her
for having I was trying so hard to stop, and
I was trying to say all the right things, but
she just wouldn't stop.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I might have to see why that one's automatically doing that,
because even you don't say her name yet, she wants
to start answering.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
She wants to jump in on the convoy.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, but if you're listening to this podcast and you
want to know what he recommended for me, which I
do think is right in the middle of the if
you asked.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
If you asked it, you know it's for me.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's five hundred you know, milligrams twice a day of calcium.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And an additional you know, vitamin D and you I
can take like coltrait or the other one that's pink.
I can't remember what it's called. But that are calcium
and vitamin D together. And as he explained, as Kirkland
brand sure and Murphy knows it too, you have to
have both because the vitamin D takes the calcium and
puts it where it's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, they work together. That's one thing that I never
really understood about certain vitamins and combinations. There's a reason
that they want up being packaged together because that's how
the body will naturally process it.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
He he even said it in his own way. You know,
he's he's interesting to communicate with. He's anyway, he said, Yeah,
the the vitamin D takes the If you take the
calcium without the vitamin D, it's just gonna sit there.
It doesn't go where it's supposed to go. But the
vitamin D picks up and puts it where it's supposed
to be. Again, I need those sort of visualizations for him,

(10:21):
so from him and.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I love I love him.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
He said that, not Google.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
He said that not Google. Yeah, Google sounded like a
reading out of a medical journal.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well the Gemini stuff now every time it's punctuated at
the end with the I'm not a substitute for medical advice,
nor am I, which is good. I mean, I'm glad
you want you want AI to be for anybody that
wants to use that in place of a doctor. You
should not do is just reminding you.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I need to make sure the next time.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I And it was funny because the information, the instruction
before the appointment, which I guess everyone has this when
you do this, I'm very I've done very little of
these kind of appointments. The instruction would get in a
private quiet space, you know, And.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I thought I did.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I thought I was in a private quiet space until
until she interrupted.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
So how do you feel now that you have the feedback,
the results and you know what you're supposed to be
doing for the future.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm anxious to get the approval from the insurance. I'm
hopeful that we don't have to fight insurance for me
to get the treatment, because, as he told me, without
my bones are being eaten. And I'm doing everything I can.
I'm doing all the right kinds of exercises and strength
exercises and flexibility to do what I can and my diet.

(11:41):
I've changed my diet to strengthened bones. Because you don't
feel this, you don't know you have it unless you
easily break a bone. That's when people learn they have it.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
So I understand the three dose is a maximum for
reclass and that it has side effects, like you said,
dental negative, very negative dental side effects if you continue
to use it. Does it continue to work? Though? Are
those three doses enough to last for years or decades?
Aerarily because you had mild improvement, which is great, he.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Wanted, if I don't treat it from here on out,
I will the improvement will have been lost. He did
say that you don't do something now and strike now
that the reclass is done, You're done with your three
We've got to strike now, which is why he's pushing
this through already, so hopefully we can do it. The
only side effect to what he's these injections supposedly, and

(12:33):
he's like, you need to be careful to stay really
on target with your calcium and vitamin D and not
fudget because the side effect from this next medicine is
kidney stones possible.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
That doesn't mean it will happen. It means it's a
possible side effect.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
This means you need to dehydrate more than great, which
everybody needs to do anyway.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I'm down, well, Murphy, if you really need a good
answer in that reclass, I know where you can find one.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Okay, yeah, yeah, it's in the family room.
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