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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Jody After the Show podcast.
You can also see it on YouTube and be sure
to subscribe to our YouTube page when you're there to
follow along. So I want to share a part of
a little journey that I'm going on here. Sam doesn't
know about this. Jody knows about it, that I'm actually
diving into the world of GLP-1s. I want to see
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how this actually works. And it's different for me as
a type 1 diabetic because it's going to be helpful
I give insulin manually. And so GLP-1s are not normally–
it's considered off-label when it's prescribed to a type 1 diabetic.
Type 2 diabetes, it helps you absorb your insulin that
your body already makes. Type 2 diabetics make insulin. You know,
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that assists with the absorption and then the weight loss,
I guess, winds up being the side benefit because you're
slowing down the digestive process also.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, GLPs were for diabetes to begin.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
With, weren't they?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, that's actually– they were never intended as weight loss.
It was a side– well, I say that. It was
intended as improving insulin absorption, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Which aids in weight loss.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And so there are, you know, two different types of
them right now. There's semaglutide and then there's terzapatide. Semaglutide
is the one that most people are familiar with because
of its brand name Ozempic. And then terzapatide, the particular
one that I'm on is called Monjaro. And they have
slightly different actions and they work slightly different from, you know,
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from each other. But my endocrinologist is the one who
wanted me to go on it several months ago. He's like,
you need to try this. And I had heard all
of these horror stories about– Side effects. Side effects especially
because the side effects, I mean, they are real because
you're forcing your body to slow down the digestion. And
it's not one of my favorite side effects. I can
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tell you that. But some of the scare stories that
I heard from other friends who were on it are–
extreme when it comes to changing your bathroom habits. And
I'm fortunate with that because I'm not going to spend
any time on this just to say I've been fortunate.
That's no problem. That is not my experience with it whatsoever.
(02:13):
But you have to follow the instructions and understand what
it is you're supposed to be doing. You can't just
give yourself this shot and do life the way that
you've always done it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Meaning you can't like eat portions like you used to eat.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And you'll feel that it'll actually because your digestive system
is slowed down. So if you eat too much too
fast and your body's not digesting it, well, what do
you think happens? There's no– it's not processing. And that
becomes a problem. And you can get sick off of that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So you're doing the injections, not the pill.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well, the two that I mentioned are not in pill form.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
There are some coming, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, there is a pill form version, but it's action.
And what it does is I understand it's also– different.
The thing about pills, and you're not a shot guy,
I know that, but the thing is when you give
an injection, the body's going to absorb it immediately and
do what it needs to do. That's why there's no
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insulin pill.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Why?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Because the body's stomach acid destroys it. So almost no
oral kind of, you know, there are things that are nasal,
I don't know about for this, but anything that can
be absorbed by the body is more easily whatever it is.
I don't know how to explain the term. It takes
action faster maybe is what I'm trying to say. But yeah,
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so it's the shot version. It's real simple. It's a
tiny little needle. You don't feel it. Just like all
my diabetes stuff that I already do with the insulin pump.
That's so regular for me. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You've only been on it like a week, right?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
A week and a half?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So this is like, yeah, this is week two, second shot.
So the shot I'm giving... on Saturdays. And the first
48 hours is where I'm really feeling the, it's a,
I'm nauseated. And I am, you know, it's like a stomach,
a mild little stomach cramp, kind of like you ate
something that's not sitting well with you. And they say
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that that goes away once you get four weeks into it.
We'll see. And then the dosage, you continue to go
up on the dosage. You start out, in my case,
it's 2.5 milligrams. And then they take the dosage up
as you go so that you get to the therapeutic
dose that's most effective for you.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Oh, if they go up on the dosage, do the
chances of the side effects go up?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So, yeah, here's the little thing on that. If you
have side effects, this is why you need to pay
attention to the side effects. Every time you stair step up,
you're going to have the same side effects again. But
it's only for a short period of time. And then
the body eventually becomes acclimated. But it takes the body
many weeks to become acclimated. fully acclimated to it. And
it is, it almost immediately changes my appetite.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Oh, I know. I'm the person who cooks for you.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I'm the person who prepares meals for you. Yeah. When
I tell you.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Cut down the appetite.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So I'm still hungry, but I don't feel like eating.
And I mean, I know like last night and that's
what you have to manage. That's where I'm going, you know,
with this is there are a couple of things that
you really have to keep in your mind and proactive
from my, you know, So far, what my doctor told
me and the experience I've had so far, there's some
prep work that goes into this. You just don't give
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yourself a shot and go about your business or pop
the pill like you're talking about and go about your business.
You have to be deliberate about a couple of different
things or you will have some of the long-term issues
that some people face where they look emaciated because they've
lost too much weight because you're actually not getting enough protein.
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Because if you don't eat enough, you're not getting enough.
You have to supplement that and you have to be
deliberate and make sure you get it because you're not
going to feel like eating the extra stuff. That's easy
for me because as somebody that works out twice a
week already, I love protein shakes. I love to make them.
And so that's easy. I will make sure that I eat,
you know, and it's a lot. It's like 140 grams
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of daily protein that I eat. So you can't really
get almost that much from food, certainly not at the
level that I'm eating right now.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And but what's strange about it is, you know, Jody
made chicken thighs last night, corn and then delicious salad
coleslaw kind of a mix, which is great. And I mean,
normally I could knock down two or three chicken thighs.
That would be easy for me to do.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I'm used to saying just eat the rest of them. Yeah.
I ate one and like you can eat as much
of that as you want because normally he eats a
lot of it and he ate one chicken thigh.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And I'm like, where's Murphy?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Murphy.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, I know. Well, and that's the thing is it's a–
you feel it. You are normally a big appetite person.
It's like you are stuffed at that point. And so–
I would not like that. But what I need to
stay on– I should have given you the three things
from the beginning. But the three things are protein supplementation
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or making sure that you account for anything from a
protein and nutrition standpoint. Because you actually are eating less
and your body does need food. And so until you
adjust and acclimate, you know, you don't want to take
this and starve yourself every day because you then will
create a litany of other issues. You don't want your
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muscles to deteriorate on you.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No, you need your muscles to live a productive life. Right.
And it doesn't mean, you know, the rock.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
No, it doesn't mean that, right.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Living a productive life where you don't fall and break
a bone.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Easily.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And so it's really it's protein and then fiber supplementation,
which is accounts for the other, you know, regularity things.
And then there's nothing that's exciting about any of that,
you know, trying to think about. But I'm but I
started out that way. And as a result, I'm not
I don't have any issues compounding, you know, for me.
And and so you just have to be deliberate about
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at least those two. The third one is if you
are physically able to do so, exercise is something that
you should do because if you don't– if you eat
less and you're not supplementing quite enough protein, you're still
going to suffer some sort of a muscular challenge there.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I think in time you're going to see more
and more discussion about that because these drugs are wonderful things.
They have incredible health benefits for some people, not all.
And there are some people that, you know, are genetically
predisposed to challenges that they can't overcome without them. And
there's nothing wrong with any of that, obviously. But the
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muscle part to me, because we're very much Americans, you know,
aren't we all? We want to give a shot and go.
We want to take a pill and go and not
do the other work that's associated with that. And I'm
going to see if I can work my way through
that because Jody and I have had some friends and
family members that we've known that have gone through that.
And they kind of wound up experimenting with the same thing,
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and they had to dial it back and come back
the other way because of just that.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Not feeling right.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Dial back the doses, you mean?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah. And that's the other thing that's weird. It's a sliding,
moving scale. There is no one thing that works for
everybody because everybody's digestive system is going to be different.
Everybody's going to want a different plateau on the weight.
Everybody is going to not handle the higher dose necessarily
as well, and we'll see. Because for me, I don't
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want to go all the way up to whatever the
top number is. Because you have to also titrate back
in the other direction, I think. Anyway, if you ever
stop and you start over, you're going to start all
over again with the side effects. And when you stop,
everything comes back the way that your body was if
you haven't changed any fundamental habits. You will gain 100% back.
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of what you lost if you don't somehow make some
adjustments and stop. So there's a whole lot of stuff
that I don't know right now going into this. I'm
certainly a late bloomer into it. There are plenty of
people that have done this before me. But I'm just
curious to see how it works for me. But I
can tell you in week one and a half, I'm
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not going to, if every time I give the shot,
I have the 48 hours of the, I feel nauseated,
I'm going to have to bail. I'm just not, because
I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's that bad.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, it's going to be, you know, and I already
know that I can control my appetite from other things.
I'm really trying to use this for the side diabetes
benefit of it's immediately cut my sugar spikes after a meal.
The reason? It's slowed your digestion down. So that means
carb doesn't digest as quickly. And as a result, it
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doesn't go into your bloodstream as quickly. So it doesn't spike.
It doesn't spike. And look, that benefit exists for anybody
who's type 2 and also on it. The sugar spikes
aren't there because of physics. Your food is not digesting
as quickly. That's great for me as a diabetic because
I actually do feel better from that standpoint. And my
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A1C numbers will be better. So my goal, literally, yes,
I would like the side benefit of the belly. But
my goal is continued better diabetic control. And my numbers,
my A1C can come down even farther than it has
in the past. So that's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
When you say you want the benefit of the belly,
meaning that's your trouble area. You don't want excessive weight
on your belly. I know that that's the reason. That's
one of your big reasons. And I get it. It's
not good for you. Apparently, there's some sort of correlation
of Men and women.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's a huge correlation.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Of the fat being held mostly around the belly. It's
really bad for you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Well, it's because some of your most important organs are
right there. Correct. Yeah. And no matter what I have
done working out through the years, I've never gone excessive
with cardio because, again, that's not me, nor do I
have the time for that. It would be wonderful to
think that I could get out and run seven days
a week or whatever, but that's not going to happen.
(12:13):
You know, the core strength is the thing that I
focus on and I've not been able to lose what
I think is about 15 to 20 pounds that's mostly
in my gut. And I feel it there.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
But you can't really target, like you're going to lose
weight everywhere because when you lose weight, you lose it
head to toe. If we could target weight loss, I
would have lost the mommy tummy 20 years ago.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I would have lost the pooch 20 years ago.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So are you going to, this is a, I mean,
if you get over the nausea and stuff, is this permanent?
You're going with this forever or? Is the doctor giving you, like,
we're going to try this for a couple years and
then stop?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, there's no way to know that. Oh. And I
don't think they predict that. The studies haven't been around
long enough. There are some great studies, particularly with semaglutides,
and it's still early because terzepatide is the newer version,
which has less side effects, by the way. And I
think that's the reason that you're starting to see it,
(13:09):
you know, gains traction and popularity. But the— the heart benefits,
the brain benefits. I mean, there are these other benefits,
and there's still a whole lot of debate around, okay,
is this the chicken or the egg? Do your numbers
improve for your kidneys and your liver and your heart
and all of this because you're eating less? Or is
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it the actual action of the medicine itself? And I'm
not a debater, so I'm not going to go there.
You could spend... three weeks on YouTube looking at all sides,
you know, of that.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You've talked about, you're, you're talking about your experience with
it within a week and you know, we'll see no promises.
But have you, have you, there's another component to this
that you haven't talked about yet. You've touched on not
feeling hungry, which is different for you. I have known
you for years and years and years. We were married.
You were a hungry man. And, um, I've always felt
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like healthy people are hungry. I do think it's normal
to be hungry and, You know, there's a lot of
guilt associated with it for some people. I mean, even me,
when I'm having a hungry day, I call it when
I'm extra snacky. I'm like, man, I shouldn't be eating this,
but I'll just forgive myself for it or whatever. Oprah
talked about it because she was on some GLP-1. I
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can't remember. She did a whole special on it. She's
done podcasts about it. She said for her and some
other people who have been on these medications, Murphy, will
say that they've had food noise their whole life. They're
always thinking about what they're going to eat. If it's
at 9 o'clock in the morning, there's always food noise.
And if they're always thinking about what's for lunch or
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what's for dinner, then it never goes away. But Oprah
did say that when she got on these, the food
noise went away and she couldn't believe it. And to me,
that means you're not hungry anymore. Your mind is not
telling you that you're hungry. Is that different for you?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That is a really good question. And it's probably correct
because when I do start to eat, I am hungry.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Good. That's so good.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And I'm ready for a meal when I'm ready for it,
but it's not like I'm— Ravenous. Yeah, ravenous. Now, everything
that I've also read about this is this first four weeks,
you almost just have to get through it, analyze, and
see how you're doing because eventually, you know, you will
be hungry as you're supposed to. I think it's the
body adapting. The body really has to go through because
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you're changing something. The body goes, uh-oh, what? Wait.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You know, digestion's slowed down, so now everything. It's like
digestion's slowed down, there's a problem here, send signals to
the brain, stomach ache, you've got something, don't eat anymore,
you're full. That's what's going on right now. And eventually,
they say long-term, you're not, you will, some of that
hunger will return as it should, healthy, and you just
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know where to stop eating.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And so, because that's not, I'm really not trying to
like eat, insanely small portions, but like when you and
I went to lunch yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Which is great, one of our favorite places, and it
was fish, it was rice, and it was green beans,
and I could not eat the green beans.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I was stuffed after I had the fish, and when
I say rice, it was a tiny little half cup.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It was like, again, it's like, he has not ordered dessert.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Now that was weird. And it's partially because I really
need to get used to it before I try that.
There's something about– I don't know if it's the sugar
part of it or the other sweets or the high
fat that's in desserts or something like that that can
make some people more sick more quickly.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And Jodi brought back something from her girls' weekend trip.
It's one of my favorite things to eat, and I
ate one square of it. It's this chocolate and hazelnut.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's that. Like the– chocolate slabs that get in cut
i brought him a stack of those flavored chocolate swiss chocolate.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And i really good i ate one little you know
square of that and i thought i had eaten a
huge slice of pie.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's unbelievable it punched.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Me in the stomach and it was more difficult to
digest i'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah i'll eat it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
No it's yours but no i mean i'll still be
able to to you know to eat it i know
but it's It's again, it's what you eat on top
of everything. If your digestion is slowed down, what you
ate at noon, it may not be fully gone by
four or five o'clock at night and you start eating more.
And so it's really about Haley, who I work out with,
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my trainer. She just says, you know, do what people
who aren't on it, who typically balance themselves out for exercise.
is you eat smaller portions more times throughout the day.
Your body actually prefers that. Your body doesn't want you
to starve yourself today in the morning and then, you know,
load up at lunchtime and then load up with another
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big meal at dinner before, you know, the body doesn't
respond well to that, you know, anyway. And so distributing
that out fits better with this because you're already slowing down.
So I don't know. I mean, we'll see. But I haven't–
the appetite thing is– When I get towards the end
of the week and it's closer to time for the
next shot, it starts to..
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Come back.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Come back.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh, so on Friday night we can go out to eat.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right. Well, and they say that the overlap, you know, eventually...
So the half-life is like it peaks in 72 hours.
And I forget the half-life. I don't remember what they said. Eventually,
when you do this for weeks, they'll start to overlap
like they're supposed to by the time the next shot
gets there.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
So..
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I mean, so far, you know, it's OK. I'm in
sort of the, you know, B minus range right now
on where I am on this.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Were you ever a snacking grazer or because of your diabetes,
you didn't really like roam over to the pantry, just
boredom snacking?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
No, I definitely did that. And that's the reason that
at one point I weighed 220 pounds and where is
now I weigh And I've kept that weight off because
I don't snack. That's really, that's been one thing, and
Jodi and I are totally aligned on this at home.
Every now and then, if we really want to snack
on something, we don't deprive ourselves, but it's not an automatic,
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there's bags of chips in the, you know, there's no
candy in the pantry. There's none of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
There's popcorn.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
There's popcorn. I'm a popcorn girl.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
There's smart, what is it called? Skinny pop.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And so if you don't have it, you're not going
to graze on it. And that really has helped me
to maintain, but you know, short of everything else, I've
been plateaued for a really long time now.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But, yes, you're right about that. I can always tell
when I was in the snacking zone because I was
using a lot more insulin every single day. And they
also say, and I don't know what science there is
to back this or not, that when your body responds,
everything tends to be an inflammatory response. And there's a
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whole lot of study and focus right now on longevity
versus how inflammation plays a role into that. And one
example is that, and I forget what community it is
in Japan, where the oldest living people in the world are,
and they eat fish, and it's very low carb, and
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they're not They're not overeating anything. Their portions are, you know, reasonable.
So they're not racking up a lifetime of causing this
inflammatory response in the body, you know, which triggers things
like digestion.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
They're not eating processed foods.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Right, exactly. And so the more that you're having to
trigger a digestive process or whatever your organs are having
to do, apparently that can have a lasting negative impact
on you. And these glutides, GLP-1s or whatever— are by
their nature inflammatory reducing.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But again, I guess it's because it slows the body's
response down.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's incredible information. It's a good way to explain it.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Well, and it's something I want to study up on
because I truly don't know enough about it, but it's
an interesting concept. And I guess it's how the body
reacts and protects and takes care of itself. Whatever you
give your body, it's going to do and process what
it needs to. And I guess part of that process
is Every time you secrete a hormone, it's inflammation. And
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that's part of the reason that you feel if you
know you've overeaten a huge meal and you feel wiped out, well,
that's a flood of insulin into your body that's happening,
that's taking place. And that insulin, that flood of insulin
is absolutely creating some sort of other response that is
difficult on your body.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Like eating two full barbecue meals in one day.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Right, Sam.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I tell you, the rest of that day, that's exactly
what I felt like.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
That was your body going, what did you do to me?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I have a question about the protein. You said 140
grams of protein. Is that what you have been doing
or what you are doing now because of that?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, I've stepped it up a little bit. What were
you before? So I have been, on average, I supplement,
in addition to what I eat, about 80 to 90
grams of proteins. And they're different. You talk to a doctor,
you talk to somebody else, they'll tell you there's different amounts.
(22:43):
Some people say you should eat your weight in protein.
That's probably excessive.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, in grams, like your weight in grams.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, right, correct.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Not your weight in protein.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
No, not right. Not 100 pounds of food every day.
A lot of protein. So mathematically, that's just what's recommended
for me. Really, 140 to 150 grams of protein is—
Because I'm working out, too. I mean, if you work out,
you need more protein because that's what rebuilds muscle.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It feeds your muscle.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah. But since I'm reducing the amount of, you know,
I ate one chicken thigh instead of three. If I
had to guess, that was probably about 15 grams of
protein per thigh. So if I'd eaten three, I would
have been in the 40-ish range. But I only ate one. But,
you know, I also had a little protein shake this
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morning of 30 grams. So- I mean, I made up
for the difference in that. But that's what they say
is what causes the muscle loss that you hear about
and that sort of emaciated look that some people have.
Not everybody does that. You know, I want to be
real careful because we're talking about something that is a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Millions of people are on it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Millions of people are on it. It is a crowded field.
There are a lot of opinions. And, you know, and
so I'm just sharing my experience with it.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Right. There's no wrong way. This is your experience.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Right. So so I'm going to go in and again,
it's the early stages of it. But I think that
part of it will be easy to maintain. I just
want the side of the side effect part needs to
go away. It's really. I'm not going to be able
to spend three days a week feeling, you know, nauseated
and not quite flu like.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
But it's just like I'm going to tell you something.
one hour of nausea would make me go, nope.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I'm a baby with regards to nausea. I did it
while I was pregnant both times. I'm done. I don't
want to be nauseated for any reason.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I feel like the other stuff is a victory, and
they say that that can change also when you get
stepped up. You know, how your digestive process, I'll leave
it at that. But that's the reason that my, I
kept telling my doctor no because I was traveling so much.
I'm like, I'm getting on a plane in three days.
This is not the time to experiment, you know? And
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so since I had a window of no travel, I
figured this is a safe place to start.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
The other interesting thing is that Murphy usually drinks a
lot of carbonated diet drinks, and you can't drink those now.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, well, it's weird. I can't drink them. They fill
me up, and they actually start to hurt. And that's
because the carbonation– So your body is slowing down. It's
not processing any of that air.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
It's not going down as fast.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
When you drink a carbonated drink, you're not burping all
that air out. It's actually, you know, the body's having
to process that air. And a lot of it gets
trapped and, you know, goes through the system. Well, if
everything's slowing down, now you have air pockets filling you
up and acid. And so those air pockets, what do
those air pockets do? They make you feel full. It's
the same thing. And so I had literally, I can
(25:50):
down a Diet Coke. You and I are both guzzlers, Sam.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And when Jodi and I had lunch yesterday, I was
a third. I don't know if you noticed that. I
got a third way into that Diet Coke. That's all
I could drink of it, which that's weird. That's crazy
for you.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It's strange for me. I'm telling you, being around you
and you not being hungry is like a brand new day.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Being around somebody I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Think of the money we're going to save.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
This is a hungry man.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
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Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Jody After the Show podcast.
You can also see it on YouTube and be sure
to subscribe to our YouTube page when you're there to
follow along. So I want to share a part of
a little journey that I'm going on here. Sam doesn't
know about this. Jody knows about it, that I'm actually
diving into the world of GLP-1s. I want to see
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how this actually works. And it's different for me as
a type 1 diabetic because it's going to be helpful
I give insulin manually. And so GLP-1s are not normally–
it's considered off-label when it's prescribed to a type 1 diabetic.
Type 2 diabetes, it helps you absorb your insulin that
your body already makes. Type 2 diabetics make insulin. You know,
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that assists with the absorption and then the weight loss,
I guess, winds up being the side benefit because you're
slowing down the digestive process also.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, GLPs were for diabetes to begin.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
With, weren't they?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, that's actually– they were never intended as weight loss.
It was a side– well, I say that. It was
intended as improving insulin absorption, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Which aids in weight loss.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And so there are, you know, two different types of
them right now. There's semaglutide and then there's terzapatide. Semaglutide
is the one that most people are familiar with because
of its brand name Ozempic. And then terzapatide, the particular
one that I'm on is called Monjaro. And they have
slightly different actions and they work slightly different from, you know,
(01:29):
from each other. But my endocrinologist is the one who
wanted me to go on it several months ago. He's like,
you need to try this. And I had heard all
of these horror stories about– Side effects. Side effects especially
because the side effects, I mean, they are real because
you're forcing your body to slow down the digestion. And
it's not one of my favorite side effects. I can
(01:51):
tell you that. But some of the scare stories that
I heard from other friends who were on it are–
extreme when it comes to changing your bathroom habits. And
I'm fortunate with that because I'm not going to spend
any time on this just to say I've been fortunate.
That's no problem. That is not my experience with it whatsoever.
(02:13):
But you have to follow the instructions and understand what
it is you're supposed to be doing. You can't just
give yourself this shot and do life the way that
you've always done it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Meaning you can't like eat portions like you used to eat.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And you'll feel that it'll actually because your digestive system
is slowed down. So if you eat too much too
fast and your body's not digesting it, well, what do
you think happens? There's no– it's not processing. And that
becomes a problem. And you can get sick off of that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So you're doing the injections, not the pill.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well, the two that I mentioned are not in pill form.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
There are some coming, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, there is a pill form version, but it's action.
And what it does is I understand it's also– different.
The thing about pills, and you're not a shot guy,
I know that, but the thing is when you give
an injection, the body's going to absorb it immediately and
do what it needs to do. That's why there's no
(03:11):
insulin pill.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Why?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Because the body's stomach acid destroys it. So almost no
oral kind of, you know, there are things that are nasal,
I don't know about for this, but anything that can
be absorbed by the body is more easily whatever it is.
I don't know how to explain the term. It takes
action faster maybe is what I'm trying to say. But yeah,
(03:34):
so it's the shot version. It's real simple. It's a
tiny little needle. You don't feel it. Just like all
my diabetes stuff that I already do with the insulin pump.
That's so regular for me. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You've only been on it like a week, right?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
A week and a half?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So this is like, yeah, this is week two, second shot.
So the shot I'm giving... on Saturdays. And the first
48 hours is where I'm really feeling the, it's a,
I'm nauseated. And I am, you know, it's like a stomach,
a mild little stomach cramp, kind of like you ate
something that's not sitting well with you. And they say
(04:12):
that that goes away once you get four weeks into it.
We'll see. And then the dosage, you continue to go
up on the dosage. You start out, in my case,
it's 2.5 milligrams. And then they take the dosage up
as you go so that you get to the therapeutic
dose that's most effective for you.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Oh, if they go up on the dosage, do the
chances of the side effects go up?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
So, yeah, here's the little thing on that. If you
have side effects, this is why you need to pay
attention to the side effects. Every time you stair step up,
you're going to have the same side effects again. But
it's only for a short period of time. And then
the body eventually becomes acclimated. But it takes the body
many weeks to become acclimated. fully acclimated to it. And
it is, it almost immediately changes my appetite.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Oh, I know. I'm the person who cooks for you.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I'm the person who prepares meals for you. Yeah. When
I tell you.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Cut down the appetite.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So I'm still hungry, but I don't feel like eating.
And I mean, I know like last night and that's
what you have to manage. That's where I'm going, you know,
with this is there are a couple of things that
you really have to keep in your mind and proactive
from my, you know, So far, what my doctor told
me and the experience I've had so far, there's some
prep work that goes into this. You just don't give
(05:24):
yourself a shot and go about your business or pop
the pill like you're talking about and go about your business.
You have to be deliberate about a couple of different
things or you will have some of the long-term issues
that some people face where they look emaciated because they've
lost too much weight because you're actually not getting enough protein.
(05:45):
Because if you don't eat enough, you're not getting enough.
You have to supplement that and you have to be
deliberate and make sure you get it because you're not
going to feel like eating the extra stuff. That's easy
for me because as somebody that works out twice a
week already, I love protein shakes. I love to make them.
And so that's easy. I will make sure that I eat,
you know, and it's a lot. It's like 140 grams
(06:06):
of daily protein that I eat. So you can't really
get almost that much from food, certainly not at the
level that I'm eating right now.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And but what's strange about it is, you know, Jody
made chicken thighs last night, corn and then delicious salad
coleslaw kind of a mix, which is great. And I mean,
normally I could knock down two or three chicken thighs.
That would be easy for me to do.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I'm used to saying just eat the rest of them. Yeah.
I ate one and like you can eat as much
of that as you want because normally he eats a
lot of it and he ate one chicken thigh.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And I'm like, where's Murphy?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Murphy.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, I know. Well, and that's the thing is it's a–
you feel it. You are normally a big appetite person.
It's like you are stuffed at that point. And so–
I would not like that. But what I need to
stay on– I should have given you the three things
from the beginning. But the three things are protein supplementation
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or making sure that you account for anything from a
protein and nutrition standpoint. Because you actually are eating less
and your body does need food. And so until you
adjust and acclimate, you know, you don't want to take
this and starve yourself every day because you then will
create a litany of other issues. You don't want your
(07:28):
muscles to deteriorate on you.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No, you need your muscles to live a productive life. Right.
And it doesn't mean, you know, the rock.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
No, it doesn't mean that, right.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Living a productive life where you don't fall and break
a bone.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Easily.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And so it's really it's protein and then fiber supplementation,
which is accounts for the other, you know, regularity things.
And then there's nothing that's exciting about any of that,
you know, trying to think about. But I'm but I
started out that way. And as a result, I'm not
I don't have any issues compounding, you know, for me.
And and so you just have to be deliberate about
(08:04):
at least those two. The third one is if you
are physically able to do so, exercise is something that
you should do because if you don't– if you eat
less and you're not supplementing quite enough protein, you're still
going to suffer some sort of a muscular challenge there.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I think in time you're going to see more
and more discussion about that because these drugs are wonderful things.
They have incredible health benefits for some people, not all.
And there are some people that, you know, are genetically
predisposed to challenges that they can't overcome without them. And
there's nothing wrong with any of that, obviously. But the
(08:45):
muscle part to me, because we're very much Americans, you know,
aren't we all? We want to give a shot and go.
We want to take a pill and go and not
do the other work that's associated with that. And I'm
going to see if I can work my way through
that because Jody and I have had some friends and
family members that we've known that have gone through that.
And they kind of wound up experimenting with the same thing,
(09:07):
and they had to dial it back and come back
the other way because of just that.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Not feeling right.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Dial back the doses, you mean?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah. And that's the other thing that's weird. It's a sliding,
moving scale. There is no one thing that works for
everybody because everybody's digestive system is going to be different.
Everybody's going to want a different plateau on the weight.
Everybody is going to not handle the higher dose necessarily
as well, and we'll see. Because for me, I don't
(09:36):
want to go all the way up to whatever the
top number is. Because you have to also titrate back
in the other direction, I think. Anyway, if you ever
stop and you start over, you're going to start all
over again with the side effects. And when you stop,
everything comes back the way that your body was if
you haven't changed any fundamental habits. You will gain 100% back.
(10:00):
of what you lost if you don't somehow make some
adjustments and stop. So there's a whole lot of stuff
that I don't know right now going into this. I'm
certainly a late bloomer into it. There are plenty of
people that have done this before me. But I'm just
curious to see how it works for me. But I
can tell you in week one and a half, I'm
(10:22):
not going to, if every time I give the shot,
I have the 48 hours of the, I feel nauseated,
I'm going to have to bail. I'm just not, because
I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's that bad.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, it's going to be, you know, and I already
know that I can control my appetite from other things.
I'm really trying to use this for the side diabetes
benefit of it's immediately cut my sugar spikes after a meal.
The reason? It's slowed your digestion down. So that means
carb doesn't digest as quickly. And as a result, it
(10:51):
doesn't go into your bloodstream as quickly. So it doesn't spike.
It doesn't spike. And look, that benefit exists for anybody
who's type 2 and also on it. The sugar spikes
aren't there because of physics. Your food is not digesting
as quickly. That's great for me as a diabetic because
I actually do feel better from that standpoint. And my
(11:11):
A1C numbers will be better. So my goal, literally, yes,
I would like the side benefit of the belly. But
my goal is continued better diabetic control. And my numbers,
my A1C can come down even farther than it has
in the past. So that's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
When you say you want the benefit of the belly,
meaning that's your trouble area. You don't want excessive weight
on your belly. I know that that's the reason. That's
one of your big reasons. And I get it. It's
not good for you. Apparently, there's some sort of correlation
of Men and women.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's a huge correlation.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Of the fat being held mostly around the belly. It's
really bad for you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Well, it's because some of your most important organs are
right there. Correct. Yeah. And no matter what I have
done working out through the years, I've never gone excessive
with cardio because, again, that's not me, nor do I
have the time for that. It would be wonderful to
think that I could get out and run seven days
a week or whatever, but that's not going to happen.
(12:13):
You know, the core strength is the thing that I
focus on and I've not been able to lose what
I think is about 15 to 20 pounds that's mostly
in my gut. And I feel it there.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
But you can't really target, like you're going to lose
weight everywhere because when you lose weight, you lose it
head to toe. If we could target weight loss, I
would have lost the mommy tummy 20 years ago.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I would have lost the pooch 20 years ago.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So are you going to, this is a, I mean,
if you get over the nausea and stuff, is this permanent?
You're going with this forever or? Is the doctor giving you, like,
we're going to try this for a couple years and
then stop?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, there's no way to know that. Oh. And I
don't think they predict that. The studies haven't been around
long enough. There are some great studies, particularly with semaglutides,
and it's still early because terzepatide is the newer version,
which has less side effects, by the way. And I
think that's the reason that you're starting to see it,
(13:09):
you know, gains traction and popularity. But the— the heart benefits,
the brain benefits. I mean, there are these other benefits,
and there's still a whole lot of debate around, okay,
is this the chicken or the egg? Do your numbers
improve for your kidneys and your liver and your heart
and all of this because you're eating less? Or is
(13:33):
it the actual action of the medicine itself? And I'm
not a debater, so I'm not going to go there.
You could spend... three weeks on YouTube looking at all sides,
you know, of that.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You've talked about, you're, you're talking about your experience with
it within a week and you know, we'll see no promises.
But have you, have you, there's another component to this
that you haven't talked about yet. You've touched on not
feeling hungry, which is different for you. I have known
you for years and years and years. We were married.
You were a hungry man. And, um, I've always felt
(14:05):
like healthy people are hungry. I do think it's normal
to be hungry and, You know, there's a lot of
guilt associated with it for some people. I mean, even me,
when I'm having a hungry day, I call it when
I'm extra snacky. I'm like, man, I shouldn't be eating this,
but I'll just forgive myself for it or whatever. Oprah
talked about it because she was on some GLP-1. I
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can't remember. She did a whole special on it. She's
done podcasts about it. She said for her and some
other people who have been on these medications, Murphy, will
say that they've had food noise their whole life. They're
always thinking about what they're going to eat. If it's
at 9 o'clock in the morning, there's always food noise.
And if they're always thinking about what's for lunch or
(14:47):
what's for dinner, then it never goes away. But Oprah
did say that when she got on these, the food
noise went away and she couldn't believe it. And to me,
that means you're not hungry anymore. Your mind is not
telling you that you're hungry. Is that different for you?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That is a really good question. And it's probably correct
because when I do start to eat, I am hungry.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Good. That's so good.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And I'm ready for a meal when I'm ready for it,
but it's not like I'm— Ravenous. Yeah, ravenous. Now, everything
that I've also read about this is this first four weeks,
you almost just have to get through it, analyze, and
see how you're doing because eventually, you know, you will
be hungry as you're supposed to. I think it's the
body adapting. The body really has to go through because
(15:33):
you're changing something. The body goes, uh-oh, what? Wait.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You know, digestion's slowed down, so now everything. It's like
digestion's slowed down, there's a problem here, send signals to
the brain, stomach ache, you've got something, don't eat anymore,
you're full. That's what's going on right now. And eventually,
they say long-term, you're not, you will, some of that
hunger will return as it should, healthy, and you just
(15:58):
know where to stop eating.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And so, because that's not, I'm really not trying to
like eat, insanely small portions, but like when you and
I went to lunch yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Which is great, one of our favorite places, and it
was fish, it was rice, and it was green beans,
and I could not eat the green beans.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I was stuffed after I had the fish, and when
I say rice, it was a tiny little half cup.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It was like, again, it's like, he has not ordered dessert.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Now that was weird. And it's partially because I really
need to get used to it before I try that.
There's something about– I don't know if it's the sugar
part of it or the other sweets or the high
fat that's in desserts or something like that that can
make some people more sick more quickly.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And Jodi brought back something from her girls' weekend trip.
It's one of my favorite things to eat, and I
ate one square of it. It's this chocolate and hazelnut.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's that. Like the– chocolate slabs that get in cut
i brought him a stack of those flavored chocolate swiss chocolate.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And i really good i ate one little you know
square of that and i thought i had eaten a
huge slice of pie.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's unbelievable it punched.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Me in the stomach and it was more difficult to
digest i'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah i'll eat it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
No it's yours but no i mean i'll still be
able to to you know to eat it i know
but it's It's again, it's what you eat on top
of everything. If your digestion is slowed down, what you
ate at noon, it may not be fully gone by
four or five o'clock at night and you start eating more.
And so it's really about Haley, who I work out with,
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my trainer. She just says, you know, do what people
who aren't on it, who typically balance themselves out for exercise.
is you eat smaller portions more times throughout the day.
Your body actually prefers that. Your body doesn't want you
to starve yourself today in the morning and then, you know,
load up at lunchtime and then load up with another
(18:03):
big meal at dinner before, you know, the body doesn't
respond well to that, you know, anyway. And so distributing
that out fits better with this because you're already slowing down.
So I don't know. I mean, we'll see. But I haven't–
the appetite thing is– When I get towards the end
of the week and it's closer to time for the
next shot, it starts to..
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Come back.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Come back.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh, so on Friday night we can go out to eat.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right. Well, and they say that the overlap, you know, eventually...
So the half-life is like it peaks in 72 hours.
And I forget the half-life. I don't remember what they said. Eventually,
when you do this for weeks, they'll start to overlap
like they're supposed to by the time the next shot
gets there.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
So..
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I mean, so far, you know, it's OK. I'm in
sort of the, you know, B minus range right now
on where I am on this.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Were you ever a snacking grazer or because of your diabetes,
you didn't really like roam over to the pantry, just
boredom snacking?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
No, I definitely did that. And that's the reason that
at one point I weighed 220 pounds and where is
now I weigh And I've kept that weight off because
I don't snack. That's really, that's been one thing, and
Jodi and I are totally aligned on this at home.
Every now and then, if we really want to snack
on something, we don't deprive ourselves, but it's not an automatic,
(19:32):
there's bags of chips in the, you know, there's no
candy in the pantry. There's none of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
There's popcorn.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
There's popcorn. I'm a popcorn girl.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
There's smart, what is it called? Skinny pop.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And so if you don't have it, you're not going
to graze on it. And that really has helped me
to maintain, but you know, short of everything else, I've
been plateaued for a really long time now.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But, yes, you're right about that. I can always tell
when I was in the snacking zone because I was
using a lot more insulin every single day. And they
also say, and I don't know what science there is
to back this or not, that when your body responds,
everything tends to be an inflammatory response. And there's a
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whole lot of study and focus right now on longevity
versus how inflammation plays a role into that. And one
example is that, and I forget what community it is
in Japan, where the oldest living people in the world are,
and they eat fish, and it's very low carb, and
(20:37):
they're not They're not overeating anything. Their portions are, you know, reasonable.
So they're not racking up a lifetime of causing this
inflammatory response in the body, you know, which triggers things
like digestion.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
They're not eating processed foods.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Right, exactly. And so the more that you're having to
trigger a digestive process or whatever your organs are having
to do, apparently that can have a lasting negative impact
on you. And these glutides, GLP-1s or whatever— are by
their nature inflammatory reducing.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But again, I guess it's because it slows the body's
response down.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's incredible information. It's a good way to explain it.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Well, and it's something I want to study up on
because I truly don't know enough about it, but it's
an interesting concept. And I guess it's how the body
reacts and protects and takes care of itself. Whatever you
give your body, it's going to do and process what
it needs to. And I guess part of that process
is Every time you secrete a hormone, it's inflammation. And
(21:43):
that's part of the reason that you feel if you
know you've overeaten a huge meal and you feel wiped out, well,
that's a flood of insulin into your body that's happening,
that's taking place. And that insulin, that flood of insulin
is absolutely creating some sort of other response that is
difficult on your body.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Like eating two full barbecue meals in one day.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Right, Sam.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I tell you, the rest of that day, that's exactly
what I felt like.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
That was your body going, what did you do to me?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I have a question about the protein. You said 140
grams of protein. Is that what you have been doing
or what you are doing now because of that?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, I've stepped it up a little bit. What were
you before? So I have been, on average, I supplement,
in addition to what I eat, about 80 to 90
grams of proteins. And they're different. You talk to a doctor,
you talk to somebody else, they'll tell you there's different amounts.
(22:43):
Some people say you should eat your weight in protein.
That's probably excessive.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, in grams, like your weight in grams.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, right, correct.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Not your weight in protein.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
No, not right. Not 100 pounds of food every day.
A lot of protein. So mathematically, that's just what's recommended
for me. Really, 140 to 150 grams of protein is—
Because I'm working out, too. I mean, if you work out,
you need more protein because that's what rebuilds muscle.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It feeds your muscle.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah. But since I'm reducing the amount of, you know,
I ate one chicken thigh instead of three. If I
had to guess, that was probably about 15 grams of
protein per thigh. So if I'd eaten three, I would
have been in the 40-ish range. But I only ate one. But,
you know, I also had a little protein shake this
(23:34):
morning of 30 grams. So- I mean, I made up
for the difference in that. But that's what they say
is what causes the muscle loss that you hear about
and that sort of emaciated look that some people have.
Not everybody does that. You know, I want to be
real careful because we're talking about something that is a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Millions of people are on it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Millions of people are on it. It is a crowded field.
There are a lot of opinions. And, you know, and
so I'm just sharing my experience with it.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Right. There's no wrong way. This is your experience.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Right. So so I'm going to go in and again,
it's the early stages of it. But I think that
part of it will be easy to maintain. I just
want the side of the side effect part needs to
go away. It's really. I'm not going to be able
to spend three days a week feeling, you know, nauseated
and not quite flu like.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
But it's just like I'm going to tell you something.
one hour of nausea would make me go, nope.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I'm a baby with regards to nausea. I did it
while I was pregnant both times. I'm done. I don't
want to be nauseated for any reason.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I feel like the other stuff is a victory, and
they say that that can change also when you get
stepped up. You know, how your digestive process, I'll leave
it at that. But that's the reason that my, I
kept telling my doctor no because I was traveling so much.
I'm like, I'm getting on a plane in three days.
This is not the time to experiment, you know? And
(25:02):
so since I had a window of no travel, I
figured this is a safe place to start.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
The other interesting thing is that Murphy usually drinks a
lot of carbonated diet drinks, and you can't drink those now.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, well, it's weird. I can't drink them. They fill
me up, and they actually start to hurt. And that's
because the carbonation– So your body is slowing down. It's
not processing any of that air.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
It's not going down as fast.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
When you drink a carbonated drink, you're not burping all
that air out. It's actually, you know, the body's having
to process that air. And a lot of it gets
trapped and, you know, goes through the system. Well, if
everything's slowing down, now you have air pockets filling you
up and acid. And so those air pockets, what do
those air pockets do? They make you feel full. It's
the same thing. And so I had literally, I can
(25:50):
down a Diet Coke. You and I are both guzzlers, Sam.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And when Jodi and I had lunch yesterday, I was
a third. I don't know if you noticed that. I
got a third way into that Diet Coke. That's all
I could drink of it, which that's weird. That's crazy
for you.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It's strange for me. I'm telling you, being around you
and you not being hungry is like a brand new day.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Being around somebody I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Think of the money we're going to save.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
This is a hungry man.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
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