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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Murphy, Sam and Jody. After the show, we
just hang out a little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Tell a few little stories.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
So on our road trip this weekend, you know, couples,
you know, have conversations, you do things together on the road.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We're in the converse six and a half hours together.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
So now you talk, you know about things, personal stuff,
all the things. And then Murphy also did some work,
which on the way home yesterday I recommended that you
do some work because we had been you know, Murphy
normally on a Sunday afternoon knows what the week is
going to look like and has done some planning. And
so as we start getting closer to home, I'm like,
(00:36):
if you want to, you know, work some I'm fine
with it. We don't have to listen to Keith Urban
Flow State anymore, you.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Know, we don't have to. We can you can work on.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Hours of Keith Urban Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We didn't listen to it all the time.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We didn't. We listened to the whole album once on
their way there, and we listened to it once they
when we were at Mark and Audre's house in.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Full That was Oddre though I didn't no, it was fine.
The album it's played it for me.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
But anyway, so on the way home, Murphy was working
and he decided to I've never really experienced this firsthand
like this because normally, when Murphy starts working at home,
and if he's working, you know, with his AI assistant
who helps him with his lists and stuff like that,
I usually leave the room, you know, I'm just I
get away from it. But if you're stuck in the car,
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you're sitting right there. So this is what it's like
when Murphy's assistant is helping him.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Deal with his list.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You recorded that, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I just wanted to share it and let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Connectors are enabled per conversation. In this one, your to
doist and Microsoft three sixty five connectors are switched on
and authorized so I can reach them. In the other
they were probably either turned off for that session or
hadn't been granted access yet. It's not the voice mode
itself that blocks them. Voice and connectors are so my
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best setting is different.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So that was your pump going off. Also his pump
is going off alerting him to it.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh you didn't, you didn't record me talking to her?
You just recorded her.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I only recorded her. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I didn't because you were what if you didn't want
to share the problem you were having.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, the problem that I was having is the connector
is that it was the information that was giving me.
It said it couldn't find because it wasn't connected to
a couple of the apps that I used. Yeah, so
I was asking her to do that, and you could
tell she was pretty chilled out when she was responding.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's another thing.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
He's chosen the voice and how she responds, and she's
just like a calm girl.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, yeah, just like everything's going to be okay.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, she's great. I really like her, so and we did.
There was probably a good thirty minutes that I was
using that to interact with my calendar and a to
do list and you know, hey, go through my email,
a couple of different email accounts. I mean, I had
her really going through everything for me.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I love the way you started it.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So I said, you can go ahead and work, and
so he goes okay, and he starts talking to her
and he says, tell me what's on my calendar tomorrow
and she's and she even starts with whoa Okay, it's
a stack day. Oh, she's very it's commentary, you know
about it. And then she starts reading off all the
things and then he you, Murphy said, actually, you know,
these three meetings are just there as a placeholder I
(03:19):
can join, but they're not necessary. She's like, okay, great,
noted you know, things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So for the future when she she will you know,
she'll acknowledge those, but knows that those don't actually occupy.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Real not priority.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So I will say this, you know how sort of
anti AI I am. I don't really enjoy it. I
was impressed with what she was able to tell you
and do for you. You know, it was especially since
you are a multitasker. You have a lot of things
going on, you're managing a lot. You do need some
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sort of AI help, Yeah, you know, and it was
interesting for her to sort of lay your day out
for you like that. And and then later in the
work session you were trying to get her to find
a certain email and she couldn't find it. Remember that
as you had to explain, it's going to be it's
going to go go six days back, you know, look
at this subject line.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, what was that was so I was using two
different AI. I was using that voice you hear is
from Claude. You didn't know Claude was a woman, did you?
She didna, And I had moved over to copilot because
our company account only uses Copilot and our company doesn't
allow the usage of others, you know in the so
anyway priority, which is fine, right, So when I switched
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over to you know, the company account, copilot was having
trouble finding wanted an email that I knew that I
had answered, and uh, and then she eventually found it
and it's female. I just used female voices. I just
do it's I don't know, it's my preference. And but
I asked her to go back and say, okay, tell me.
I wanted to know. Why couldn't you find that originally?
(04:55):
Was it the guidance I gave you? What was the problem?
And she says, I wasn't searching by sendra I said,
We'll make a note for the future that any search
that I'm doing is gonna probably have a sender base
to it, And she notes it from memory for the future,
and so.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So it does build and on itself. You teach it
how to help you, is what I what I learned.
My takeaway is that you have to teach her along
the way how to help you. But with every single
time that you guys work together, she helps you with
your day. It should get better because you're having to
make little corrections. And it was interesting the way he corrected.
He correct You've seen him correct people before, all right, Sam,
(05:30):
when he corrects the AI, it's not very mostly non emotional. No, actually,
I've already said that this is incorrect. Please look again.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You have to be specific.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, that's how he dictates into his phone too, whenever
he's doing those talk to texts.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Right, it's emotionless, Yeah, as it should be with AI.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't think. I mean, I've never seen any technology
evolve as fast as it is evolving. And there are
people that are companies now there's no CEQ. It's everywhere
you know that are using it at a level where
it's in constant usage. It's not what I'm doing is
child's play compared to what it's actually doing in the
world now, where people will give it a task and
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it runs for fourteen hours and writes code or creates
an entire app or whatever it is that you're you know,
asking it to do. But the interaction and the voice
interaction has become a lot more sophisticated. There are security
protocols though, that protect it. I have to you know.
That's part of what you heard yesterday is she couldn't go.
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She says, I don't have access to your to doist.
I don't have access to your outlook, And I said, yeah,
actually you do. But we were having a separate chat.
I had to kind of figure out my way through that.
I had authorized it in a previous chat and then
when I got it back to that. Because they don't
want somebody to walk up to your phone and you know,
immediately start hacking into whatever it is. It's these all
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this interconnectivity is permission based, but I mean it's it
is helpful if I'm in the car for six hours
and I'm not and I'm not the passenger and I'm driving.
I mean, she organized my calendar for me without me
touching anything there.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
For yeah, you know, for about thirty months, Rasy. It
was just interesting to just be watching and listening to that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Were you intimidated by it? I'm sorry, Sam, Were you
intimidated by it or not? And I know that you're
not for you, you jokingly see you have a dislike
for it, But but I mean, did you there was
a time you used to laugh when you thought that
it was because I do understand that was very funny
at the beginning, you know, and the answers back were
kind of yeah, they weren't really matter it, you know.
And so now that it's getting better and more sophisticated,
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do you see it differently?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well? For your first question was was I intimidated?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Not for you.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Okay, I'm actually glad you are now that I heard it.
What this is what I'm saying. My whole point is
that now that I've heard it and seen it firsthand,
for you need it, I'm glad that you have her help,
whatever her name is, because I do.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Think I don't know that she has a name. That's
a really good point.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That's the first thing I thought that, That's the first
thing I would do. I would personalize it, of course,
but for me, yes, I hope I never get to
that point.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't want that for.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Me, I's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I would rather engage my own brain so I know
it's I can't escape it. I know it's in my life,
probably in places I don't even realize it's in my life,
but I don't think I will be accessing it for
that sort of thing. But for me, yes, I was intimidated,
not for you, happy for you.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
For somebody that feels quite add as I do. And
I do think I'm easily distracted, and some of that
I think is self imposed. But doing doing the voice
back and forth and having it do some of that
work actually makes me focused on being very precise in
my questions and not hopping from one idea to another
until I get the answer that I'm looking for, if
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that makes any sense at all, Because when if I'm
looking at a list, I've officially reached a place in
my life where every list overwhelms me. Now, every list
overwhelms me because it's always going to have twenty thirty
forty things on it that need to be somehow rearranged.
It's endless, you know. I don't ever get to the
end of a day where the list is completely checked off,
because there are gonna be some things that need to
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be you know, carried into the next day, and there's
just sometimes it just allo it becomes wallpaper. I don't
see anything and being able to talk it through.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Is who you are.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
He if he thinks that, he speaks it so it's perfect.
I do think you name her. She's your new best friend.
I'm so excited she's in your life. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's how I packed, I know.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And when he's when we have to pack the go
on the case, I try to leave the room.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Does that work?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
No, no, no, not using AI, I just speak out loud.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I have to eventually if I need to, if I
need to think, I have to leave the room because
he's verbally saying I need this shirt for Tuesday and
I need these pants for Thursday. And I'm like, I
gotta get out of this room because if somebody's speaking,
every thought is too much.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But I will say, I.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Have no idea what I'm thinking right now.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I don't want to know, but I actually I probably do.
What I do want to say is what you said
about yourself. That self realization you had Murphy just now
is correct. I watched it yesterday while sitting in the
passenger seat while you were having this conversation with her
and you guys were planning your day and week. She
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would give you an answer you have this, this and this,
and this is how I can access is would you
like me to change that? She would ask you a question,
would you like me to move that to a different
priority or a different list or a different day, and
you would just stop. And at one point I almost said,
are you going to answer her? But you were thinking,
and I thought, he's not jumping to the next thing.
(10:48):
It's fantastic. He's thinking about how to answer her. And
so I was proud of the long pauses that I
saw you take. And so I think you What I'm
saying is, I'm I think it definitely is going to
help you, and I'm glad to see it in action.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, I mean I think it's Are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I mean no, I don't know, no, because you are
a very grounded, realistic person. When you see something, you're
good at assessing it, so you know if as it
applies to you, I get why you wouldn't want to
dive into it. But I yeah, that doesn't really shock
me too much.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Funny to me my notebook and paper, I was making
my nose for the week country girl here.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, but I have to do that too. The funny
part about what you recorded that beeping at the end
my pump. That those three sounds that you hear. When
you hear that three in a row, three in a
row means that the pump is either the cartridge is empty,
which I knew it wasn't, or it's it's an occlusion.
In other words, it's stopped up. And the reason I'm
bringing that up is that's a perfect example of something
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that's a tool in my life that I can't live without,
literally can't live without. But I love it. You know,
it makes me diabetes better. But it's another notification, it's
another distraction, and when I hear three in a row,
I have to take action. Then it's not like I
can table that, you know what I mean. So that's
the way that my life is. I'm always, no matter
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where I am in my to do list, meetings or
whatever's going on in the world, if my pump calls
to something to my attention, I absolutely have to stop
in that moment, and you know, and deal with that,
which has been over the years kind of you know,
a nuisance. I'll find myself even which is really stupid,
but I will find myself resisting and just ignoring. It's
like Okay, keep on beeping. The only person, the only
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person I'm hurting is me because it's my pump, you
know what I mean. But you know, if anybody else
who is type one or where's any kind of medical device,
knows that it's a it becomes your ball and chain.
You love it, you can't live without it, and you're
grateful for it, right, but you know it's still after
it gets aggravating after a while. But it's another thing
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that calls on me. And so any tool that I
can use, whether it's AI or something else that kind
of helps me to stay yeah, focused or whatever. If
I were looking at a list, for example, and my
pump went off at that, I would have gone to
take care of that. I've actually might have forgotten I
was even working on a list and come back to it.
You know what I'm saying. It just it depends.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Well to wrap this up, I'm just saying, having heard
and seen it, I was proud.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I have a question before you.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yes, no reason to rap earlier as she.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Or claude whatever ever talk back to you or give
you some lip or is it all just pretty much
answer is correctly.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Wow, that's a really good question because it doesn't. Now
you can. You can personalize any of these ais to
speak to you the way you want them to, you know,
if you want it to be a snarky response or
I mean, at some point that would be a problem
for me. I don't want to right and to be
honest with you for me to show you how often
I use it, I want to main polite to it
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because well, for one thing, it's learning my personalities. I'm
doing that, but I don't want to create a bad
habit that translates to really with a human you know
what I mean. So I'm going to be just as
nice to the AI as I am.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You know, a person as someone who's around you a lot,
and I hear you talking with your assistant, I think
you should give her a name. But when I hear
you talking to her a lot, she definitely is programmed
to be there for you, pleasing for you, helpful for you,
not pleasing, but she's there to help you. There's never
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any lip as well.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
No, but I do. I The instruction I give it
is to be transparent and that it's fine to be cordial,
but I don't want to be you know, pandered to.
That's the wrong because you can have it. You can
choose flirtation, you can choose anything you want. But to me,
that's not why I'm using this as to be it
as objective as possible. I even tell it that when
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it's doing homework for me, don't go to the manufacturer's site,
don't go to the drug maker's site, don't go to
any If I'm asking for research, I want independent research.
I don't want you scraping websites for you know that
are advertisements and marketing for something. And so over time,
I have, really I have a pretty sophisticated list on
how I prompt AI now to what it has to do.
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In fact, I tell it now, you know you I
literally say eighty to ninety sources before you give me
an answer. I don't care what it is that I'm
asking it because I don't I don't want it coming.
I don't want it hallucinating. I don't want it giving me.
And even then it's still not perfect. But I do
think that the companies that run them now are being
if if you've used it recently, if you ask any
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of them medical, it's going to come back and tell you.
But you need to consult with your doctor, which is
what it should do. The same thing for legal advice,
you need to consult and consultant attorneys. So there are
guardrails and I love I love that aspect of it.
But you know, back to your original question on that,
if you wanted to give you lip each time or
b rate you, I'm sure you can tell it to
do that, and it would probably do that. You know,
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You're right, though it would get annoying after a while.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
After a while, it would be right right, It would
all right. Work on her name and congrats. I hope
you've got your day all planned out?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, why don't you call her? Jody.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, absolutely not missed any part of the show.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Get it All on the Murphy Salmon Jody Podcast.