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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jodi after the Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Today, I want to tell you about having my colors done.
I had a color analysis done. Finally. I wish I
would have done this, not just ten years ago, not
just twenty years ago, when the when I first started
caring about what I was wearing. So I went to
a professional and spent time with her and she was
able to tell me what season I am, which the
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way that they determine what season you are, what colors
look best on you. It's based on your skin tone,
your undertones, your eye color, your hair color. Now, she
her name is jan She was wonderful. She was trained
by a company called House of Color. It's like a
UK company and it's so it was so cool. I mean,
first of all, in this podcast you can listen to
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this one. Of course, if you watch it on YouTube,
you're going to see some of my pop colors. As
I brought some of the tops that have been in
my closet that I'm not sure whether I should have
been wearing them or not.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I brought some of those in.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Can I ask those quick is this just for your
for clothing or is this for your.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
For makeup too?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's for jewelry, which was one of my most exciting moments.
I'm gonna tell you what was most exciting that I learned,
which most disappointing that I learned.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
What you can.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Take away from this even if you've never you know,
taken the time or had the budget to go. I
want to sit down with a professional and learn my season, okay,
And I will also tell you the one color that
anybody can wear any season and the one color that
most of us should not wear.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh wow, because it drained you.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It is that thing that you've seen online and if
you haven't seen an online, google it where people were
someone sitting in a chair in front of natural light,
lots of natural light pouring in and drapes go across
across your chest like drapes, and different colors get put.
And when you see the different colors, literally some colors
on me and on anyone, it would happen your eye.
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The dark circles under your eyes looked darker. Some of
the colors that were laid across my chest, I looked jaundiced,
almost bad. And then she would put the correct color,
a good color for me, and it was it was
like a light winer, like it was just your glowed
up and no dark lines, and it almost almost like
you had a facelift with the right color. And so
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it's funny. I always thought, Murphy, I always thought this
is something that ladies mostly or care about and are
interested in. But I was there for half an hour
when I realized Murphy would love this because of your
You always feel like you have dark circles.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, I have that, I mean genetically the circles thing
under my eyes.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And she says she does, you know, consult men too.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I can I mean, I think I could see it
would be beneficial for anybody. I can see how guys
would probably be. You know, I'm sure she has a
less popular, you know, customer of hers.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So I don't even know where to start, except to
say when I first walked in the front room of
her home, which would be in a regular traditional layout,
it was the dining room would be a dining room,
lots of natural light coming in. That's her color room.
That's her color consultation room. And on the wall was
the huge color wheel. Huge, and that's where she took
me to first, Like, this is.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
The color wheel.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Everybody falls in either an autumn, a spring, a summer,
or a winter, based on your undertones, based on your
eye color, based on your hair color, all of that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
If what's weird is looking at the wheel, to me,
it's difficult to see the change in seasons. I guess
the seasons must mean something different, because I think when
you think winter fall, you think darker. When you think spring, summer,
you think brighter. Yeah you do.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I can't answer that exactly, but I think she knew
right away that I was warm undertones. She's so good
at this, you know. She had a hunch that I
was warm undertones. And I had been told that, you
know that I had peachy undertones and all of that,
And I thought I was going to roll in and
on an autumn. I thought I was going to be
an autumn with warm undertones. And we started playing around
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with it, and she said, I have a hunch where
you are. But first of all, I want to say this,
the most exciting part to me.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Was when she showed the jewelry.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I was like, wait, am I going to learn if
cold gold is better for me or silver? She said,
absolutely cool, And before I even knew what season I was,
she picked up a strand of with with a bead,
the pearl beads and gold with it, like kind of
a creamy pearl bead and gold chain. And she held
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it up to the autumn and it looked really good.
And she held it over to the spring and it
looked really good. And then she dropped it down to
the summer and winter of the wheel, and it looked cheap.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It looked bad.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So you're seeing this mixed in with all the colors,
and because I guess what, I'm having trouble, but this
is I'm not a fashion guy. That's why I depend
on Jody for this kind of stuff. The description of
you know, the autumn and how that plays, because I
can see why you would think you were autumn because
you're red hair, you know, and a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Of red heads are either autumn or spring.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, and I can see how that would that would
be the case. But so is everything being done in
front of that wheel like that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Not everything?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, no, no, I'm just let me just say I
can't answer all of your questions because I'm not trained
in it like she is. Okay, but let me just
tell you about my experience and you will learn something.
When she held and she was wearing silver jewelry, and
you know, she knows it inside and out, and she
was and she looked beautiful. She's a beautiful woman. And
she understood how to harmonize her colors. And that's something
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that she talked to me about too, So we're going
to get to that. But then she picked up the silver,
and the silver was also with a strand of pearls
and it was like white pearls and silver or white gold,
and she held it to the winter and the summer
and it harmonized.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It looked right.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
She brought it up to the autumn and the spring,
which is the warm part of the wheel, and it
looked like Chuck E cheese jewelry.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I was like, oh, I can't. Yeah, and this is
all natural light pouring in. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The assign was show up with no makeup. She wanted
to color me. And this is how it would happen
for you if you did it. You know, you show
up as natural as can be. Wear contact. I guess
you just didn't want to deal with glasses, so I
work clear contacts. And then then you know, she says,
I think you're warm. You're definitely warm, and so that's
when I learned gold jewelry looks best next to my
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and I.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Was so excited.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I did a little dance because you know that most
of my jewelry is gold tone and always has been Murphy.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It really is my favorite to wear next to my face.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So I'm I was like, that was the most exciting
part to one of the most exciting parts to me
about the jewelry.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, I'm a jewelry person.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That makes sense to me. And if your baseline is
going to be the color clothing that matches, because it
seems to me that layers itself, right. I mean, if
you it's first going to be the color clothing that
you wear and then the jewelry on top of that,
because that makes a difference.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Just it just harmonizes with it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
If I'm wearing all the right colors and the right
top color and I put the wrong jewelry on, it
just looks a little off.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It's not awful.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You can still do whatever you want, but it's just
doesn't harmonize, and what you want is a harmonized look.
Cool undertones are like blue, pink, rosy hues, and warm
undertones are more yellow, gold, peach hues. Okay, it's it
defines your underlying skin tone and what colors flatter you
the most, and even you know what kind of jewelry.
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It even says cool types look better with silver and
warm types look better with gold undertone.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
To right, it sounds like autumn versus spring.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, autumn and spring are warm at the top of
the color wheel, and summer. Winter and summer are cool.
As far as the color wheel goes, there's a lot
of colors in summer and there's a lot of colors
in spring that I can so I have this whole
when I left, and every and after you do a
color and analysis, you should be given a color fan.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's like Pete Swatch will be Yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You're watching this one on YouTube, this is my color fan.
I am a warm spring. That's what I learned. I'm
Spring and I and she also gave me keywords, which
is beautiful. When you leave there, it's a lot of information.
I'm still putting this all together, Like I've been in
the closet pushing shirts over, looking at it with the
color wheel, and you're supposed to look through your closet
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with what do I have that harmonize. It doesn't have
to all match these colors exactly. But what do I
have that's that's in my family?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I do?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I want to keep it all.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I know. When Jody got home, that was one of
the first things that you started to do was go
into your closet.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Was working around my favorite things?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Were there any clothes that are your favorites that you realized?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Okay, that was the most disappointing. Form most exciting was
the jewelry, the gold. The most disappointing is you know,
I have a whole section of my closet that it's
black and white. I love a sharp white shirt and
I'll love black and white together. Well, white looks best
on cool tones.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
White.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
My white needs to be cream. I'm wearing cream today,
which is a good color.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It does. It looks great on you.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I like those white, crisp white shirts, and it's not
the best for me because that's a cool thing.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Interesting because I think those look great on you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well either way. And it's not like you can't. You
can do whatever you want. But if you want your
face to look better, it's literally if you go online
and you watch people get color analyzed, you can't believe
the difference. You won't believe the difference of how your
your dark circles under your eyes would almost disappear with
the right color right next to your face.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Sense to me, because you're blending basically, is what you're doing.
What you were describing like with the white shirt, if
that's not a fit for you, is contrast, and contrast
creates problems.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It's not just contrast, it's that it pulls out the
wrong colors in my face, which makes you age, almost
makes your face almost look like it's hanging down lower
than it actually is.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So I will tell you some of the things that
I learned that anybody could benefit from. There is one
color that everybody in the color wheel can wear, and
it's a true red. Oh, there are lots of reds
in the color wheel. Mine is poppy or geranium. This
I brought and if you're watching this one, this is geranium.
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This is one of the wow colors.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
For me, which is a more orange just kind of right.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I got tomato red.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Actually it's called geranium or poppy in the red color world,
and that's the best one for me. Like my skin
should look better with that, and my hair is fine.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
With it, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
For a girl who was told when she was little
for years that she's never wear red because your hair's red.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I was told you'll clash, you'll look you don't want
to know what they told me i'd look like. And
you can't wear pinks.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Not true. I've got several pinks that light my skin up.
But I didn't know this, And so that's the kind
of thing you learn when you get color ana line eyes. Yes,
I can wear certain yellows, not all. I can wear
corn yellow. You see this one? Corn yellow wear a
lot I do. Yeah, I do that one. I have
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to go test it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, I have a brighter.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yellow for neutrals, a light dove gray, perfectful warm spring
for a warm spring. These are all things from my closet.
I was that I don't reach for very often, which
is sad. So it's like having these things. I almost
donated this top one time because I don't reach for
it often enough. Well, now I'm going to reach for it.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Now you have a whole new wardrobe I do.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm gonna show you one more shirt. You see this
shirt also a geranium color.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's terra cotta.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's one of my wow colors. At the end of it.
She highlighted a few colors that really pop on me.
And every time I wear this shirt, guys, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I'm not saying. I'm not lying.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
People strangers come up to me and say, wow, that
is a great color for you.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
This is my wow color, Terra Cotta.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think it's because it also has the black specks
on it. It really, I mean that that makes it,
you know, special also, but that color totally blends so great.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's just it's about the undertones. Though you think it's
about your hair and stuff. It's about your undertones, your
actual skin, Okay, and you can't change that, but you
can change what colors you put next to it. So
everybody can wear a true red, she said. It's the
reason that so many companies choose a true red. Coca
Cola is something to think about.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yes, you know, everybody can wear it. It's fine on
cool winters, it's fine on warm springs. You know, we
have a special event coming up, a formal event coming up,
and my favorite dress in the running is a true red.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Right now, the most common, I guess, the solid colors
are the ones you will always see in sort of
the standard golf shirts, but a true red is always
in that mix too.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It's got the it's got warm, and it complements warm
and cool and spring and summer.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
It's crazy. So that's one that everybody can wear.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
The disappointing part was, and it doesn't surprise me, and
I've heard it before from color experts and I've read
it before, is that black drained you. Wearing the color
black just drains everybody and it doesn't look good, it
doesn't light you up. In fact, it drained you of
your natural color. But I double checked with jan on
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that before doing this podcast, and she said, well, about
twenty five percent of the population can actually wear black,
and those are winters. The winter palette is you know,
this is the contrast palette. They're cool, but they can
get away with the contrastee, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Which is funny because super formal events for guys are
usually black tucks.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, and no look.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Black is the number one color sold in fashion, I believe,
and we're not going to stop when we've When I
came home from the color analysis the other day, Phoebe
was at the house, our youngest and she was asking
me about it, and I was showing her my color wheel,
and when I knew when I was like, I don't
know if you're interested in this. In doing this, I said,
but I wish I would have done it at your age,
and she was like, I don't know. And then when
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I told her that nobody, really, not many people look
good in black, she was like, what She's like, I
don't want to do that because she doesn't want to
change her game either.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I mean that's I probably have more black shirts than anything.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I've always thought black looks so sharp, I love how formal.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I don't know that I've ever ever seen anybody that
doesn't look good in black.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But just about your skin tone though, Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
If you don't have that yellowish, you know, skin tone,
and I guess mine would be. I don't. I would
have to look at a color wheel.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Color analyzed to know you're seeing you.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Look good and black. Yeah, I do too, I'm not
gonna ye. I mean it's again, color is subjective. We
think about Sam's color blind. You know, I look and
everything people are going to see, uh actually see things different,
And it depends on, like you said at the beginning,
what light you're in. Also, if you're not in pure
natural light, you're in shadows or something, or the like fluorescence,
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which I find to be really harsh lighting. I don't
like that. I don't like the way that that looks
at all can change the way that your clothing looks
on you.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Well.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But the other thing that she told me, and she's correct,
she said, have you ever had a day where you
walk into the same bathroom the same lighting and a
like at work, you go to the same and some
days you're like, Goda, look horrible, and then the very
next day you're like, good, today, nothing changed. You're wearing
the right color. When you look good, You're wearing the
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right color because the lighting didn't change. You didn't change
from one day to the next. It's you're wearing the
right color to offset your undertones.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, like here, the bathroom here is pretty harsh fluorescent lighting.
But in this room where we actually have video lights
that are set to be warm.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You look better.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's to me, I said, it's
really I feel it's more accurate.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
It is because like at home, I'll look in the
mirror and I was like, okay, you're good to go.
When I get here and go in our bathroom, it's
like whoa, why did you wear that today? But to me,
it's those lights definitely.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I mean, there's just something to be said for it.
It's not necessarily for everyone, and it's an investment. For
you to be color analyzed properly, you need to do
it with someone who was trained in it. She I mean,
when I walked in, she probably had a hunch, and
I know it was warm, but she did not name
it until I sat down in the chair and she
started putting the drapes in front of me. She knew
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to go warm, so she'd put a one that would
compliment warm, and then she put one that compliment cool,
and she sort of taught me, don't look at the drapes,
look at your face. And oh my gosh, it was
like someone was changing the light in the room, but
they weren't. She was just changing the color the drapes.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It was insane. So it wasn't long into it though.
She said, you're a spring, and she even said I
wish I was a spring. She's a and she's gorgeous,
and the way she knows how to dress she harmonized.
In fact, she was wearing this dress that was sort
of I would call it a deep teal. I don't
know what their true color is, but it looked really
good on her. She also had like a little scarf
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tied to the side that had other colors in it,
and I thought, well, that's cute. She definitely did that
for a reason, because at the end of the appointment,
when she was okay, now we know you're a Spring,
she sat down and she was like, I want to
show you what your goal is, to learn how to harmonize.
It doesn't mean you only wear these seven colors. You
take these basic seven colors when you want to pop,
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but you need to learn how to harmonize. And she
showed me how her color palette. She showed me the
little swatch of a summer She laid it next to
her dress and she said, you see how this all
of these look good with it. If I do it
out of my color palette a different one, it doesn't
look right and every and.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It was amazing to see that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's crazy there and when you leave with house of
color the way they do it, I'm a spring. I
have my palette, but there are four words that help
me describe what kind of colors I'm looking for. They're
clear colors. They're bright, They're light and warm, and I
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was like bright, and she said, yeah, not muddy. You're
not looking for colors that would be considered autumn because
autumn colors.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Are a little muddy.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
If you had a paint pal if you had a
drop of paint and you wanted to muddy it up,
you would add like a little brown and mix it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
That would muddy the color. The color. The colors that
I should be wearing are clear, like easter egg colors,
all masks.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I want to know what clear mas.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
It meant clear? No other colors really in there? Isn't
that crazy?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I bet you. Fashion photographers have a great understanding of
this also, because it's when you put a model in
front of a camera that's going to be part of
the whole package, the clothing, the makeup, the everything you know,
going together, and they're going to match them with the clothes,
not the other way around.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Look, just a few days ago, I wore a red
shirt and it was before my color analysis, but I
wore my favorite red shirt in my closet and I thought,
let me wear this now in case I find that
it looks bad on me.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And I was also thrilled to learn about the reds.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And by the way, it's the red shirt that I
wear all the time that I like. It's like a
power shirt. It is absolutely my red. It's a poppy red.
It's the bottom one on this when I'm showing.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You, yeah, and that does look good on you, poppy red.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I notice your nails are red too, Is that all
included in this?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
No, my nails are almost My nails are almost always red.
But I didn't talk to her about that. She didn't
say anything to me about it. But it's just interesting
to learn. It doesn't mean you can't wear black.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I'm not going to ditch the black stuff in my closet.
I'm not going to go through and overhaul my entire closet,
but I will choose things with more intention now that
I have the knowledge of what actually lights me me up.
I had discovered a really good lipstick a couple of
years ago from a friend of mine who you know,
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knows a lot about it, like cells, makeup and stuff
like that. And she gave me this color called Have
an Arrow. And when I wear that color, my whole
face just lights up. And I never knew that was possible.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I have a narrow to me, is close to the
blouse that you brought.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Oh, that color, it is like a poppy geranium.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Correct. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought when I saw that,
because I know that lipstick that you've got that matches, yeah,
which does look great on you.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
There are reds that I can't wear.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
If it's more if it leans more cool, if it's
got more blue in it or cranberry in it, that
is really in competition, it wouldn't look as good.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So I know it's still new to you, and I
know that you're still getting a handle on it. But
do you already feel a certain different conference confidence with
your clothing choices now or can you see those things
now that you've started to put it into practice.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yesterday I wore a peach shirt that's been in my
closet forever that I don't reach for it very often,
and it is absolutely one of my pop colors, like
I should be wearing tangerines and peaches, and I wasn't
sure of that. I remember thinking that's gonna pail me out.
My assumption. I was making the decision based on the
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color hanging on the thing instead of based on my
skin tone. That's why I mean, I do really I
care about all this stuff. I love to dress you
guys know that. I mean, we work in broadcasting. When
we first started, I had friends, I say, years ago,
when we first started and I started this job, I
had friends who were like, oh.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Cool, you can wear whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And I remember thinking, I don't want to dress down though,
And remember I never really have. I used to roll
in here in dresses in the early days.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, but video and you know, photos and socials are
part of all of it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So sure. So anyway, big takeaways.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Everybody can wear true red, which is kind of cool
to know. It is a power color for a lot
of people. Most people, according to the color analysis experts,
are drained by black. And she even said a lot
of us have like you know, you've got probably a
bunch of black in your in your closet. I'm not
saying get rid of it, but if you're going to
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wear it, pair it with some colors that harmonize your
skin better.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It was really eye open.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I need to go get me a red shirt.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Now you don't have any red.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
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