May 29, 2026 • 12 mins
Rules that apply to EVERYONE in our National Parks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Choti. After the show podcast,
be sure to follow us on YouTube in addition to
subscribing here.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Here we are at the kickoff of summer.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We've heard a lot this week about the national parks,
our national parks being more crowded than ever. They had
the busiest march on record, and it's that wasn't even
summer yet. And so I guess we're all more aware
of our national parks. And it's a more cost effective
way to do a vacation, and it's and for a
lot of people to bucket list.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know, how many national parks have you ever been to?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Some of them are so beautiful, and you know, it's
a nice little break from technology because you know, the
deeper you get into some of them, you have no
cell service.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, yeah, nothing. Murphy is hilarious when there's no cell service.
He is absolutely beside himself until he accepts it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And this is great.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But I've got a backup plan for that, now, you oh,
what's that? What I do? I have a Starlink Mini
and it's in a backpack and I can plug it
in if I have to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Point for us, going is for you to test that, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know, we could be a cage cove for example,
the faith. What's the highest point in the Great Smoke
Eat what's it called dome? Lingman's Dome? Thank you, Clingman's Dome.
There's not a You can't get a phone signal at
the top of a mountain out there, but I could
if I had to in the event of an emergency.
I know, I'm silly like that. That's what all the
(01:19):
other people are pointing, Starling and it's it's like, I
think it's like five bucks a month for to sit
there and rest.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm just saying the point is not to go into
the park so you can test technology, right right, But
to each his own.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But I've gotten to that place where I'm a little
nervous about being disconnected from it, I know. But anyway, sorry,
I know that's not the point.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Bring it up.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I want this to be beneficial for you to go
over some National park rules because it's important.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You can get in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
In a national park if you do something you're not
supposed to do. Federal crimes.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay, besides feeding the bears.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You're not supposed to feed the animals all right, let's
just start with the.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know nothing, think about that. I've seen some disturbing
TikTok videos of things people do in national parks, but
that's for another podcast, is it or maybe not.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Let's start with wildlife.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You're supposed to keep a safe distance from wildlife from
animals twenty five yards for most wildlife, one hundred yards
for bears or wolves, and do that for your own
common sense and safety. The other rule never feed them,
touch them, or approach them.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know that that is important. I know we've joked
about it before, but you know when like the black
bear looks it's so cute, you know, the baby black bears.
They're there, and we tend to personify, you know, animals
like that and almost domesticate them in our minds, and
they're you.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Know, we maybe bear must want some peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, And you walk up to that baby bear and
guess what's coming out of the woods at you, mam
mama bear.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And there's a reason there's that term mama bear.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Another rule in all of the national parks, and we'll
get to the most popular and most expensive too, national parks.
In case you missed that, this week in three to know,
leave no trace, pick up all trash.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Uh you know all of that?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You that so mafia, Like, yeah, that's like off the grid.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You're supposed to stay on mark trails, you know, and
you're not suppose because you're not supposed to disturb the habitat.
Look that one time you and I were going not
really off trail, we were on a trail Murphy, but
it was more secluded.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
If you will.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Late.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, the girls were at Dollywood and we were like,
the sun's going down and I'm like, I want to
go see this, Like can we go deeper?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Because I love the woods?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know that we're living for a waterfall or something some.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Sort of We were looking for something that was supposedly
supposed to be there and what we didn't find it.
But the deeper we got and I love the lush
woods and it's a it's absolutely captivating. But it got
more quiet, and as it got darker, I felt a
little nervous. We had gotten turned around, what with all
of your planning. I don't know that we had a flashlight.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No we didn't. I mean I have had the phone light,
but that was about it. No cell service and no
other protection. This is I'm getting nervous thinking it was
like one of the true crimes we've watchd it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
We had your walking stick that you had to have,
remember that you from a kid at Walmart.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And there's a little compass on it. Now it's cheap
and you have to tap it to really make it
work out.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Other rules in national parks do not disturb, deface, or
remove any artifacts, any archaeological you know sites.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You're not supposed to disturb the historical structures. In fact,
be respectful of them, and.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't go write your names on them. Well, you
know the thing about it, Yeah, that's one of the
saddest things I think that we saw when we know,
took our daughters to this Great Smoky Mountain National Park
and there's a church in there. In there since the
late eighteen hundreds, I guess, so there was a land there.
There's an entire land area before it became a fell
(05:00):
park there. You know, anybody who was living there was
grandfather and that was it. After that, it was no
personal property in there anymore. So there were still some
churches in there, but you know, there's carvings into the
pews and there's a lot of graffiti.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That's a federal crime.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
To disturb that, to mess with that, to deface it
is a federal crime.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You need to know that. And look, guess what, how
can you know.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That unless you've heard it, unless you you know, have
paid attention to the park rangers and this messaging. Look
that one vacation that I went on as a child,
I told you guys. Yeah, we went to see my
cousins in the summer and I went to vacation Bible school.
But the one year we went on a vacation, my
dad took us to the national the Smoky Mountain National
(05:46):
Park at my mom and dad, and I remember thinking,
I don't even know what a national park is. I
didn't understand what that term meant. A park to me
was down the street with swings and the slide.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Got see a seesaw anyway, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Stand And so how would how would I have known
any of that?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Commercial? I mean, I would hope the defacing property is
just something in general you wouldn't do, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
But education, though, you have to understand these are protected
lands for a reason. You're not You have to have
permits for any filming that you do well, commercial filming,
Oh okay, in photography. If you're gonna go in there
and make it documentary, you have to clear that with
them first.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
No, I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, I mean you can do it for your own
personal Look, yeah, it's commercial filming. You can't then make
a documentary and without that makes sense approval, it's a
federal protected area. Drones, launching, landing, operating uncrewed aircraft. Uh,
you got to you gotta get the right permits for
that too. That's universal every park. You have to the
(06:51):
same things.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Doesn't make sense, you know, I mean, and it falls
into the commercial thing because I don't you're not gonna
be able to fly that drone commercially. There's a certain
height limit, you know, on drone flight anyway, and in
certain places.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Would you camp in a national park?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I wanted to camp at the grant at the in
the Grand Canyon, and I was offered that one time,
and it was I was told.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, too close to the edge something something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I Wuropeons were worried about scorpions.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
No, I wasn't worried about it, probably, and.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I thought were scored in that part of the country.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I thought there there's everywhere probably yes, anyway for camping
standard drive up campsites in national parks, you have to
reserve those in advance. The website is Recreation dot gov
or n PS dot gov, National Park Service dot gov.
To find out all this information backcountry, like that's overnight
(07:50):
deeper in there, camping you have to record you. It's
specific permits. They need to know who you are. Yea
and rightly so. And another thing that they worry about campfires.
They're only permitted if you're going to camp. They're only permitted,
you know, on designated fire rings or the provided gates.
You have to be careful of that because you don't
want to be the person who damages it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And fires are very real, as we've seen in California,
and remember the destructive fires that were in the Gatlinburg
area a couple of years ago. Also, yeah, a lot
of the Smokies were damaged by it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I know. It was so sad to see most expensive
national parks and I'll give you, like supposedly what it
costs per person to do all the camping and all
of that Grand Teton National Park, which is a beautiful
expansive place. That's the one that was featured in the
Gabby Patito documentary Murphy Remember, oh yeah, we watched that
(08:42):
one and it was like it was hard to watch
that documentary, but it was also like, this is no
wonder she was filming because she was trying to show
you her experience and it was beautiful. So Grand Teton
it's about four hundred dollars. Yeah, if you're going to
do the whole camping experience. Olympic National Park in Washington
(09:05):
three hundred something dollars for a camping experience and all
of that because I.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Would have never thought that. I just thought you could
bring your tent and you know, set up wherever you
wanted to.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now it varies from park to park.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Are they going to come ask you for your permit?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I guess so average, it's an average of your daily
expensive tent, camping fees, park entry, parking permit cost, meals
and drinks, fuel, firewood. You know, when you get there,
you have to pay to be there, to camp outdoors
and all of that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So there's some it's still cheaper than going to you know,
the biggest city and doing all the you know, amusement
park stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, just differently on if you're driving or flying to
get there or whatever. You know, not all of them
are in driving range for you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yellowstone National Park also about three hundred Zion National Park
and then Joshua Tree National Park in California.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well the price is aside, I mean to me, just
the fact that you actually have to get you know,
to be permitted for it literally is not something I
was ever aware of. I thought, if you were camping,
you brought your own stuff. It's a it's a park,
you pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
For it, and you gotta be careful.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm really glad that you brought that.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, well, I mean we're not planning the camp. I would,
but I don't know that you and I.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh no, no.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I love my hotel room.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah. I need places to plug things into. I need plumbing.
These parks have starling fees.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Another thing I do want to mention and look, if
you're listening to this and you know a ton more
than we do, please let us know on our YouTube channel.
You know you can send it to Murphy Samon, Jody.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And you can or do you used to talk back
Mike if you're listening on the iHeartRadio messages yeah right.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
We heard from someone last summer who that was their
goal was to visit all the National parks with the
family and there they have, you know, set out to
do it, and that's a lot. There are pet regulations also.
Pets are usually allowed in the big area is the
developed areas, the parking lots, the roads, the picnic areas
(11:04):
and established campgrounds. But of course there are leash laws.
They have to be restrained.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It's not just that, it's the safety factor. I mean
you really that's something you need to consider before you
bring your pet, is like where they're going, because unfortunately,
depending on their size and all that, they become prey
and that's an environment they're not. They're domesticated animals. I know,
they're not going to survive the wild without a leash.
That's as much about protecting them as it is the
other campers around them.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I know. To me, also, what if your dog got
away from you and you never saw them again, then
you would just be That would break my heart. So
always have them on a leash, and you have to.
That's a leash law in the National Parks, and people
who bring service animals if you have a disability and
(11:52):
you have a service animal, they have to be categorized
as service animal. You have to do all that ahead
of time. There's a lot more to know about being
in the National Parks than you think. Go up and
roll in with a star.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'm glad. I'm glad you said that I would I would.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Like to NPS dot gov. It's the National Park Service website.
But there's also I do want to say, there's a
foundation that supports the National parks, and that one is
America's Nationalparks dot org.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
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Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Choti. After the show podcast,
be sure to follow us on YouTube in addition to
subscribing here.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Here we are at the kickoff of summer.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We've heard a lot this week about the national parks,
our national parks being more crowded than ever. They had
the busiest march on record, and it's that wasn't even
summer yet. And so I guess we're all more aware
of our national parks. And it's a more cost effective
way to do a vacation, and it's and for a
lot of people to bucket list.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know, how many national parks have you ever been to?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Some of them are so beautiful, and you know, it's
a nice little break from technology because you know, the
deeper you get into some of them, you have no
cell service.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, yeah, nothing. Murphy is hilarious when there's no cell service.
He is absolutely beside himself until he accepts it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And this is great.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But I've got a backup plan for that, now, you oh,
what's that? What I do? I have a Starlink Mini
and it's in a backpack and I can plug it
in if I have to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Point for us, going is for you to test that, right, Well.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know, we could be a cage cove for example,
the faith. What's the highest point in the Great Smoke
Eat what's it called dome? Lingman's Dome? Thank you, Clingman's Dome.
There's not a You can't get a phone signal at
the top of a mountain out there, but I could
if I had to in the event of an emergency.
I know, I'm silly like that. That's what all the
(01:19):
other people are pointing, Starling and it's it's like, I
think it's like five bucks a month for to sit
there and rest.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm just saying the point is not to go into
the park so you can test technology, right right, But
to each his own.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But I've gotten to that place where I'm a little
nervous about being disconnected from it, I know. But anyway, sorry,
I know that's not the point.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Bring it up.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I want this to be beneficial for you to go
over some National park rules because it's important.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You can get in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
In a national park if you do something you're not
supposed to do. Federal crimes.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay, besides feeding the bears.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You're not supposed to feed the animals all right, let's
just start with the.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You know nothing, think about that. I've seen some disturbing
TikTok videos of things people do in national parks, but
that's for another podcast, is it or maybe not.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Let's start with wildlife.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You're supposed to keep a safe distance from wildlife from
animals twenty five yards for most wildlife, one hundred yards
for bears or wolves, and do that for your own
common sense and safety. The other rule never feed them,
touch them, or approach them.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know that that is important. I know we've joked
about it before, but you know when like the black
bear looks it's so cute, you know, the baby black bears.
They're there, and we tend to personify, you know, animals
like that and almost domesticate them in our minds, and
they're you.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Know, we maybe bear must want some peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, And you walk up to that baby bear and
guess what's coming out of the woods at you, mam
mama bear.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And there's a reason there's that term mama bear.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Another rule in all of the national parks, and we'll
get to the most popular and most expensive too, national parks.
In case you missed that, this week in three to know,
leave no trace, pick up all trash.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Uh you know all of that?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
You that so mafia, Like, yeah, that's like off the grid.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You're supposed to stay on mark trails, you know, and
you're not suppose because you're not supposed to disturb the habitat.
Look that one time you and I were going not
really off trail, we were on a trail Murphy, but
it was more secluded.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
If you will.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Late.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, the girls were at Dollywood and we were like,
the sun's going down and I'm like, I want to
go see this, Like can we go deeper?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Because I love the woods?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know that we're living for a waterfall or something some.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Sort of We were looking for something that was supposedly
supposed to be there and what we didn't find it.
But the deeper we got and I love the lush
woods and it's a it's absolutely captivating. But it got
more quiet, and as it got darker, I felt a
little nervous. We had gotten turned around, what with all
of your planning. I don't know that we had a flashlight.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No we didn't. I mean I have had the phone light,
but that was about it. No cell service and no
other protection. This is I'm getting nervous thinking it was
like one of the true crimes we've watchd it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
We had your walking stick that you had to have,
remember that you from a kid at Walmart.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And there's a little compass on it. Now it's cheap
and you have to tap it to really make it
work out.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Other rules in national parks do not disturb, deface, or
remove any artifacts, any archaeological you know sites.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You're not supposed to disturb the historical structures. In fact,
be respectful of them, and.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't go write your names on them. Well, you
know the thing about it, Yeah, that's one of the
saddest things I think that we saw when we know,
took our daughters to this Great Smoky Mountain National Park
and there's a church in there. In there since the
late eighteen hundreds, I guess, so there was a land there.
There's an entire land area before it became a fell
(05:00):
park there. You know, anybody who was living there was
grandfather and that was it. After that, it was no
personal property in there anymore. So there were still some
churches in there, but you know, there's carvings into the
pews and there's a lot of graffiti.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That's a federal crime.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
To disturb that, to mess with that, to deface it
is a federal crime.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You need to know that. And look, guess what, how
can you know.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That unless you've heard it, unless you you know, have
paid attention to the park rangers and this messaging. Look
that one vacation that I went on as a child,
I told you guys. Yeah, we went to see my
cousins in the summer and I went to vacation Bible school.
But the one year we went on a vacation, my
dad took us to the national the Smoky Mountain National
(05:46):
Park at my mom and dad, and I remember thinking,
I don't even know what a national park is. I
didn't understand what that term meant. A park to me
was down the street with swings and the slide.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Got see a seesaw anyway, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Stand And so how would how would I have known
any of that?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Commercial? I mean, I would hope the defacing property is
just something in general you wouldn't do, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
But education, though, you have to understand these are protected
lands for a reason. You're not You have to have
permits for any filming that you do well, commercial filming,
Oh okay, in photography. If you're gonna go in there
and make it documentary, you have to clear that with
them first.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Did you know that?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
No, I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, I mean you can do it for your own
personal Look, yeah, it's commercial filming. You can't then make
a documentary and without that makes sense approval, it's a
federal protected area. Drones, launching, landing, operating uncrewed aircraft. Uh,
you got to you gotta get the right permits for
that too. That's universal every park. You have to the
(06:51):
same things.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Doesn't make sense, you know, I mean, and it falls
into the commercial thing because I don't you're not gonna
be able to fly that drone commercially. There's a certain
height limit, you know, on drone flight anyway, and in
certain places.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Would you camp in a national park?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I wanted to camp at the grant at the in
the Grand Canyon, and I was offered that one time,
and it was I was told.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, too close to the edge something something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I Wuropeons were worried about scorpions.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
No, I wasn't worried about it, probably, and.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I thought were scored in that part of the country.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I thought there there's everywhere probably yes, anyway for camping
standard drive up campsites in national parks, you have to
reserve those in advance. The website is Recreation dot gov
or n PS dot gov, National Park Service dot gov.
To find out all this information backcountry, like that's overnight
(07:50):
deeper in there, camping you have to record you. It's
specific permits. They need to know who you are. Yea
and rightly so. And another thing that they worry about campfires.
They're only permitted if you're going to camp. They're only permitted,
you know, on designated fire rings or the provided gates.
You have to be careful of that because you don't
want to be the person who damages it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And fires are very real, as we've seen in California,
and remember the destructive fires that were in the Gatlinburg
area a couple of years ago. Also, yeah, a lot
of the Smokies were damaged by it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I know. It was so sad to see most expensive
national parks and I'll give you, like supposedly what it
costs per person to do all the camping and all
of that Grand Teton National Park, which is a beautiful
expansive place. That's the one that was featured in the
Gabby Patito documentary Murphy Remember, oh yeah, we watched that
(08:42):
one and it was like it was hard to watch
that documentary, but it was also like, this is no
wonder she was filming because she was trying to show
you her experience and it was beautiful. So Grand Teton
it's about four hundred dollars. Yeah, if you're going to
do the whole camping experience. Olympic National Park in Washington
(09:05):
three hundred something dollars for a camping experience and all
of that because I.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Would have never thought that. I just thought you could
bring your tent and you know, set up wherever you
wanted to.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now it varies from park to park.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Are they going to come ask you for your permit?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I guess so average, it's an average of your daily
expensive tent, camping fees, park entry, parking permit cost, meals
and drinks, fuel, firewood. You know, when you get there,
you have to pay to be there, to camp outdoors
and all of that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So there's some it's still cheaper than going to you know,
the biggest city and doing all the you know, amusement
park stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, just differently on if you're driving or flying to
get there or whatever. You know, not all of them
are in driving range for you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yellowstone National Park also about three hundred Zion National Park
and then Joshua Tree National Park in California.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well the price is aside, I mean to me, just
the fact that you actually have to get you know,
to be permitted for it literally is not something I
was ever aware of. I thought, if you were camping,
you brought your own stuff. It's a it's a park,
you pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
For it, and you gotta be careful.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I'm really glad that you brought that.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, well, I mean we're not planning the camp. I would,
but I don't know that you and I.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Oh no, no.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I love my hotel room.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah. I need places to plug things into. I need plumbing.
These parks have starling fees.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Another thing I do want to mention and look, if
you're listening to this and you know a ton more
than we do, please let us know on our YouTube channel.
You know you can send it to Murphy Samon, Jody.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And you can or do you used to talk back
Mike if you're listening on the iHeartRadio messages yeah right.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
We heard from someone last summer who that was their
goal was to visit all the National parks with the
family and there they have, you know, set out to
do it, and that's a lot. There are pet regulations also.
Pets are usually allowed in the big area is the
developed areas, the parking lots, the roads, the picnic areas
(11:04):
and established campgrounds. But of course there are leash laws.
They have to be restrained.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It's not just that, it's the safety factor. I mean
you really that's something you need to consider before you
bring your pet, is like where they're going, because unfortunately,
depending on their size and all that, they become prey
and that's an environment they're not. They're domesticated animals. I know,
they're not going to survive the wild without a leash.
That's as much about protecting them as it is the
other campers around them.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I know. To me, also, what if your dog got
away from you and you never saw them again, then
you would just be That would break my heart. So
always have them on a leash, and you have to.
That's a leash law in the National Parks, and people
who bring service animals if you have a disability and
(11:52):
you have a service animal, they have to be categorized
as service animal. You have to do all that ahead
of time. There's a lot more to know about being
in the National Parks than you think. Go up and
roll in with a star.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'm glad. I'm glad you said that I would I would.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Like to NPS dot gov. It's the National Park Service website.
But there's also I do want to say, there's a
foundation that supports the National parks, and that one is
America's Nationalparks dot org.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
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