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August 13, 2026 15 mins

Can't keep up with the jargon at work? Murphy knows it ALL - so we let him teach us. So funny!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Choti after the show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
So, the longer you've been in the workforce, the longer
you've been working, the more you have like this office
jargon or jargon in your own industry.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, every industry has its own jargon and like acronyms.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
And corporate speak.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, oh my gosh, so many acres. Oh my gosh,
you can play drinking games with the acronyms in our industry.
But anyway, I will say this. We touched on it
in Three Things to Know this week. So if you
are new in the workforce or new to a certain
you know whatever. Even younger workers are saying they don't
know what some of the stuff means. Office jargon that
new workers don't know, Like should we be saying this anymore?

(00:41):
So one of them, Murphy, one of the top ones
is in the pipeline. When something is in the pipeline,
they don't know what that means new Yeah, office workers.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, yeah, I guess. So a pipeline is a workflow,
but that's really sort of an oil field term. That's
what they mean.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
When it's in the pipeline, it's something is being it's
on and planned. But it's not ready yet.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, yeah, oh yes, yes, you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Okay, do you use that one? I don't hear you
say that much.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, I don't really use that one.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
So the pipeline means you put something at the beginning
and when it finally comes out, it's ready. That's I guess.
I would think pipeline is a workflow, and.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
The pipeline to me means it's it's started, it's coming,
it's not ready, yes, right, Okay. What's so funny is
Murphy's more likely to this is what's cool. You're more
likely to use the newer like because you'll hear it
before we do.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
You know, Murphy, Murphy's connected up.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
He's done that before too, He's thrown something mat us.
I'm thinking, huh, I haven't heard that one yet. Must
be going around now, so really a new one.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, you were the first person that I heard and
this is not new anymore, but you were the first
person I ever heard say I don't have the bandwidth
for something.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah. Yeah, bandwidth is kind of a you know, that's
a term that it I don't know that it's overwhere.
That's people using it. Okay, okay, And with and scaling man.
Those are the names of the game in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Here's one that I would assume everybody would know what
it means. But there are some new workers who don't
know what it means to touch base or why we're
saying base.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
They like to circle back, or they like to follow up.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I mean I like to do all three. I'm fine
with touching base, circling back, and.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Following up anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Touching base, by the way, means to have a quick chatter,
catch up with somebody.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
You're just touching base. To me, it was a baseball term.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I think it's a baseball term, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Touch base.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
You're out on the road and doing sales calls with
touch base with the office and let us know how
you're doing that.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
You're doing you know well, and.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
You're touching base really to make sure that you're safe, right,
I mean, that's.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
What's keeping is it a safety thing?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's kind of what I would think. If you're touching
base with somebody, you're you're basically going you're making sure
that you've communicated before you head out on something else,
so that everybody's.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
So that you're all on the same page.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Another yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Game.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Remember when we used to have the game as kids
or tag or whatever, there was always a base there. Yeah,
touch base to be safe.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah yeah, like base, home base.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
So maybe it is not just baseball. Maybe it is
just a home based thing. Base of operations.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, I don't know the origins of it, and I'm
not going to dig into them.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
The other one, here's another one.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
People, younger people or new people in offices don't know
what it is to put something on the back burner.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
You ever hear that? One?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
These are not things that I hear you say a lot, Murphy,
So congrats.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, I hear that. Yeah, those are these are old standards.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
This is what makes the English English language so difficult
for other people to learn when they're it's not their
first language. Primary because the back burner, you know, in
a literal translation, is really about the stove. That's what
is you put. You put something on the back burner
and the stove while you're working on the things on
the front, because there is their front burnt burner issues too.
You know that everything's not on the.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Back burner, things that are most important a front.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, that's right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I did hear Murphy say something in here the other
day that I didn't know if he was I'm not
sitting on my hands he said, or let's not sit
on our hands.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh oh, that's a corporate time that Really it's.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
A figure of speech. It means you're not doing anything.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You know, it's you're right. All of these are actually
bigger than them just being words. They all become figures
of speech that we literally have no you know, idea of.
And then there's some acronyms that you can't really explain
from an HR standpoint these days. You know, fubar, which
is a term that came out of the world ward too.
You can't really you know, in a conference room. You're

(04:28):
probably not. No, I'm not. I've heard some people say it,
but you know, oh really yeah, it's you know, but
it's beyond all recognition.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I know. Let's stick with the other one. Hit the
ground running. Yeah, I think we all kind of know
what that means. It means you start on a project
and you hope to see, you know, immediate impact. You
hit the ground running. I feel like that in the morning.
I feel like I hit the ground running in the morning.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
We do hit the ground running.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Boom, almost a lot of work in the first few
hours of our lives.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think some of the terms that get thrown around
are you know, they're also financial terms, you know, where
you'll hear somebody, Oh, that's not good for the P
and L. Well, if somebody doesn't know what a p
and L is, which is a profit and laws statement.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Oh see, I would one hundred percent ask what that means.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I do now with acronyms, because I don't want a
chance anything. It's far worse to nod your head and
think that you know what you're talking about and then
you realize you've you've knowledged something you shouldn't be or whatever. Yeah,
you know, that's when you pull out your phone and Google.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
That's right, But it depends on when and where.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
So I was on one of the big call, the
big calls this week, and there was an acronym that
was thrown out that I didn't know. I almost texted Sam,
which one I don't remember now, but I wasn't going
to ask in the middle of like one hundreds of
people on a call.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, he would have hated that.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Murphy Well, I can't remember it now, but yeah, I
mean ask always ask, but don't ask and slow down
one hundred people to ask that.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, you know, it's a situational.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I've had those on conference calls before, and I usually like,
you know what, I'm gonna ask Murphy with that one.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Right, I always asked Murphy later, Yeah, all right, here's one.
Take this offline.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, you a discussion private.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's a corporate buzz phrase right there.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
After the meeting. You'll put that in the chat. Let's
let's take this off line.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Let's talk about it. Don't need to talk about it
during the group. You know that takes up everybody else's time.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Have you said that, take this offline?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I don't know that. I've I try to avoid that
when it when it when it slides from professional to jargony,
I really do try to, you know, avoid it.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I know you try to avoid it, but you are
also more in that world than any of us, and
I think you're more likely to spit jark.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, sometimes it's shorter to say you could tell somebody,
you know, are you just going through the motions or
do you just say you're checking the box?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Okay, yeah, have you heard that one?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know?

Speaker 4 (06:46):
A box? Is you know that next to the to
do list. That's where that one comes from. Going through
the motions is also one. So you've come up with
one for right, Well, that's I bet that one's going around.
There are a lot of people talking about checking the
box these days, you know, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Know, here's an older one we've heard forever. Pushed the envelope.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, challenging limits. Now going to do something innovative, Push
the envelope.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I don't understand that one. I know what it means,
but pushing the envelope? What envelope am I pushing?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean you tend to think postage envelope, and
maybe it's the more literal term of the word envelope,
which means you're pushing the borders, the boundaries, because when
you envelope something right, isn't.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Are you think?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Isn't that what an envelope does?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
You're right? Okay? Whoa?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
But again, you know, the more that we move to
a digital world, anything that's print related, it can be
a challenging.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
In black and white?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, I have two more.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Move the needle, make a noticeable difference, a significant impact,
that's what it means.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
But to move the needle.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
But when somebody's saying, you know, let's move the needle,
not everybody really knows what that means.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, that's a that's a really good point because this
that's a perfect example of you say it and you
don't really know its origins, but you kind of know
what it means. But needle is just a gauge. So
if you think about a spanometer and the needle in
your car, the old school, not the digital cons you know,
any gauge that has a needle on it is moving,
so when an action is taken, it moves the needle.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, so see understand something. A needle to me is
not a gauge in a car. A needle to me
is something that makes me, or a needle on a
record like you're Vinyl Murphy, I don't know, needle is
different to the recipient.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, the alternate version of that. And you know, to
moving the needle is moving the meter, same thing, and
moving the meter is the same concept. It's just a
digital version of it, I guess with the right.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, my favorite one that I have not really heard,
but as soon as I saw it, it's like, yeah,
that sounds like corporate jargon blue sky thinking, Yeah, you
know what that means.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh, well, it's based on the book.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh of course there's a book.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
This and and and and so here's truth be told
on this. I have not read that entire book. So
if somebody were to say that, I mean, I don't
really know what that means. I think blue sky thinking
is like I can give you thinking, I'm unbounded. Is
that what it is?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Basically coming up with ambitious or imaginative ideas without worrying
about practical constraints.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Blue sky thinking, Well, it's certainly easier to say blue
sky than that so.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Sky thinking somebody has thout without thinking of the logistics,
like how how how many people is it going to
take for us to get this done?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I forget how many of these actually do come from,
you know, books, there's a whole lot of that. When
you hear people talk about, well, that's the long tail.
Have you heard that corporate term? No T A I
L or T A L the T A I L.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Oh I was hoping for a T A.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know that's another book, you know, the long tail economy.
I think what it was, what it was, and I'm
going to screw this up to. Basically it has to
do with I think, the the trailing effect of something
big that you do, and I don't know it's how
it's long term or what. Anyway, as you can see,
if somebody were to use that term on me right now,
it would not register. I would actually have to google that,

(10:08):
Google that to see what you know, what it is.
But in so many of those bus phrases come from
you know, pop culture moment too. I think of things
like if you it's still used today, jump the shark
and in a meeting. I don't know that anybody really
knows what jump the shark means anymore because it's outdated.
And Happy Days, Yeah, it's the TV show from the

(10:29):
nineteen seventies called Happy Days. I might have been four
years old when that was. You know that episode happened,
but it's when the makes it sound all right away.
So it's the episode where the Fonds decides that he's
going to be on skis and he's going to jump
over a shark. Is that what in the motorcycle?

Speaker 4 (10:46):
No, no, no, the motorcycle was done on the parking
lot of Owls right the skiing was he jumped a
shark right on skis right.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
And the reason they.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
It's that Jumped the Shark is people are like, Okay,
they've gone to the series been played out, it's a
story ideas they have jumping sharks.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yes, so they've taken it too far now, So that's
really what Jumped the Shark means. But that's one to
me that in a room you don't even have to
be a new employee. You can be forty years old
and not know what that is, right exactly. Yeah, And
but there are a lot of those old phrases they
just carry because they get used in offices and boardrooms
and books and everything, and then they still wind up

(11:24):
in our lexicon.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
And so Pollyanna, Oh, I love that one, though, I
got it.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I've been accused of that.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, at least they've made that movie a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
So have they made it more than once?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah? Didn't they remake Pollyanna?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I don't know that original Haley Mills.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Mills is the only one. I'm thinking, well, the.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
New Pollyanna, except I'd like it to end differently anyway.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
What about low hanging fruit?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Low hanging fruit, I know what that means.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
It just means you're only you're only going for what's
obviously right there.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
You're not really reaching the easy stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's the easiest easy stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, I'll tell you the one.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
It's not really a workplace one, but it's one just
in life that I never understood until I guess someone
had to explain it to me. I never knew what
people meant by it's apples and oranges. I'm like, yeah,
they're they're fruit. They're both fruit.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Why are we they're different?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
For us? I didn't know that people were saying they
were different. At one point I thought, oh, they're the same.
So I got it completely wrong when people would use
that on me.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Wow, that's dangerous. Yeah, it's apples and oranges exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And we would have this circular conversation because to me,
they're both fruit round and at the grocery store or
from a tree, So tell me what. So someone's intention
is that it's completely different, but I saw them as similar.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's interesting to me because Jody, you know, I mean
to me, you are much better at metaphors than I am.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I am.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Jody can read poetry and take the meeting out immediately.
Jody can listen to the lyrics of a song, get
the meetings immediately to me, when something is more metaphorical
than straight up, it's difficul for me to wrap my
head around for the longest time until somebody explained to me,
now it's this wasn't just explained to me yesterday. For
the record, it was I was a teenager the term
six and one half dozen the other.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I understood that immediately. I was like five years old,
and I was like, oh damn.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
In fact, I think I botched it, you know, I
think I said six and one seven of the other
something like whatever it was. But see, that's funny. That's
a that's a baker's doesn't but anyway, you know, But
until somebody explained to me, no, no, you see, it's funny.
That's people say this in Jeff because it's you know,
either or it's six of one or half a dozen
of the other, which is the same number. I'm like, oh, ok, yeah,

(13:37):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
That's an oranges. You got one. Sad that you never
understood that jumps to mine.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I mean, all of these, I just want to say, Jody,
I'm you know, you were talking about Murphy using these
or on the cutting edge of these. I don't think
I ever hear you use those unless.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's in jest.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Thankfully, I try not to use them either, unless it's
a joke.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
You're not wanting to jump from the frying pan to
the fire.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
It's just not in me to speak that way.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah. Well, and there are some of them that I
think are just downright gross, you know, like swallow the frog.
It's like that one. Never heard, that's an older one.
It just means you got to do the difficult things sometimes.
But to me, it's like, that's disgusting. I almost gag
thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
I did hear one that I never really heard before,
called boil the ocean.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Which is an impossible thing. That's what that means.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I've never possible task you're bringing up. You're boiling the ocean. No,
you can't.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
No, I mean I've heard, you know, putting lipstick on
a pig. It doesn't make the pig, doesn't make the
pig look any prettier. It's it's actually a couple of
that fit in that same column. There's lipstick on a pig,
putting a band aid on things, and it's really aren't
those the same kind of you know, things you're not
really making, You're not solving the problem. You're just trying
to make a Yeah, there's you know, I've heard one

(14:54):
involving a Snickers candy bar the same thing, but we
won't say that one here.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Oh well, it it's actually.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Turning something else into a Snickers bar.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Okay, okay, I think that's enough. I think there's.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Something else that you can turn into chicken salads, and
it's also something you can polish too.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Good luck at work with all the jargon. Missed any
part of the show. Get it all on the Murphy
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