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April 3, 2026 13 mins

The struggle is real for a creature type in a tech world!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Jody after the show
podcast Murphy.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You will appreciate this podcast. I hope maybe you can
give me some guidance. Maybe you can be manager Murphy
and calm my nerves a little bit. So in this
world of work, in the professional world, we all move
and work in you're lucky enough to have, you know, work.
There are creative types and then there are non creative types.

(00:26):
I don't know what you call someone who's like a
numbers person who handles, you know.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I always call it left brain, right brain.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Okay, left brain, right brain.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Some people are more logical, some people are more creative. Correct,
technical and creative, I guess would be the best way
to put it.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I am a creative person, and so the other stuff,
the technical stuff is such a mountain to climb. It
makes me feel insecure. I do not excel at it.
If you were to put me on a team, you
put me in the creative corner, and you're gonna get
real work from me, wouldn't you agree?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh? Yeah, I think you're great ideas, And actually I
think you're execution and organization, which I would say is
left brain more than you realize. Maybe there's a certain
amount of art and right brain to you know, getting
things organized. But why are you nervous?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
So creative?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
People I find, like myself are often dragged into stuff
that's not creative.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, we are a tech based world, you mean, mind
numbing stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But are people who are more left brain non creative
types are they dragged into into creative I'm more I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh yeah, I think that's kind of I think that's
kind of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Something up on the fly.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I have something up on the fly.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, that's what being creative can be.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, sometimes creativity is The challenge with creativity is trying
to come up with something fast. Sometimes stifles creativity.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Agreed, Agreed. Anyway, I know that I'm taking forever. I
have a project. I've been assigned some work, and I'm
excited about the work. It's creative. I'm excited about it.
Sam knows about it, and I get to tell a
story about a really cool client and something like that.
But I just got my instructions and it's going to
take me an hour just to get it. My creativity

(02:11):
to all the places it needs to go. I have
to do a creative tracker folder. There's a share point
folder I have to deal in. There's naming conventions I
have to follow. So once I've created this piece of
art that I now, I have to become a different
person to get it to where it needs to go.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Is this the one that you had the forty five
minute conference call? Yes, and so then you have to
go through an hour's worth of reading and figuring.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah. It's like being assigned something in school, a project
that I'm not fit for, you know, and it's just
it's just I'm so and it's Friday. It's almost like
I have to do all of this but before cob today.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
It's like a creative drain almost.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
It is.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's like two worlds colliding and all the creative people
are being asked to do this, and I'm excited to
do the work.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
It sounds like they're just asking you to organize it
in one place.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I know, but that's not that bad. I don't. I
feel like I'm going to mess it up.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'll probably send the wrong things, and you know, I'm
just worried about that part.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
We're not going to mess that up. I think you
get you don't give yourself enough credit for that.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Have I ever messed with a SharePoint folder that you guys.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Saw it's you know, it's a but I know you.
I know you so well, is that? And I guess
you and I work off of each other very well
because we're husband and wife in our personal lives. You
don't really need to worry about the things that frustrate you.
That the technical frustrates you. And because it frustrates you,
it gets in your way of actually your comfort zone

(03:41):
of learning it, and so you block it out, and
and so some of these things, well, I think once
you do this for the first time, it's pretty easy.
I don't know why they're asking you to create It
seems to me that if you ask a bunch of
people to create a bunch of folders, then you're going
to have a disorganized situation because not everybody's used the.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Same Maybe I'm not being asked to create a folder.
Maybe I'm just being asked to use a share Point folder.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Okay, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
And they want a naming convention.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm going to mess this.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
They want a naming convention because they want everything to
be named similarly so it can be organized. So this
is pretty easy, honestly, I think I mean literally when
you think of a folder, just think of a folder
as a paper folder, and it's all the stuff that's
going in it. And a naming convention would be something
that naming conventions pre date any sort of computer anyway.

(04:31):
The world is full of, you know, naming conventions on paper.
So you'll be able to do that, right, I mean,
if it's like, if they want it, let's say that
they want the naming convention that you know, it's everything
starts with the name of the you know, of the
day of the week it was done, and then a
dash and then whatever the year well, I.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Mean at the end of it, and then the date
today would.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Be Friday, dash twenty twenty six dash whatever, you know,
And that's a naming convention. And you know, and if
they want you to number one, two and three, that's
so that's all you have to do.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Okay, what Murphy is saying is true. You know, Jody,
I know you and share point.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's not gonna work out.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Don't always work so because my brain and look, I'm
not I'm not telling myself a story, So don't worry
that I'm dumb. I know that it's just not my
area of strength and correct, Murphy. I have been sheltered
from it often, especially in our personal life. I haven't
done taxes in twenty something years because I don't have to.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Oh, I handle all of that.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
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Speaker 3 (05:36):
Hasn't cooked or bought milk in twenty years. We are
a very good balance.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I bought almond milk last week. But I understand what
you're saying.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
But at work, I get thrown into the technical world
where I do not feel confident. Even though we're in
a very tech business. I'm the creative. I'm the art
type of the business, not the sign ants.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
And so.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's going to be my afternoon.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I am going to create something and then it's going
to take me double It's going to take me about
five ten minutes to create and it's going to take
me an hour to get it where it needs.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well, write it on paper first before you try to
do it in computer. If you if it's the naming convention,
write it out what you want to know that you
need to name. I mean, if it's right, if it's
commercials that you're that you're actually voicing or something like that,
then you could, you know, name them in advance.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
So there's exactly that.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Okay, Well, then you name it on your pad first,
and then when you go to do it and share point,
you've already got it in front of you.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean that makes it easier.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't want you to come save me. I don't
want you to come save me either, Sam. And that's
something I've done. You guys have helped me. You guys
help me technically, I help you artsy sometimes.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, I understand you want to do it all yourself,
but I mean honestly rest assured or feel relaxed or
less anxiety, knowing that there are people that will lend
you a pair of eyes and say, oh yeah, just
click click click.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And once you've done it, you know it's I think
it's it's it's you will get the swing of that.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
If I'm able to do it without the sweet help
of my team, I'll feel more confident. It will make
me feel like, okay, it'll make me fine. And so
I understand about being out of your own comfort zone,
but it's a big deal too. I don't want to
mess it up because it's going to some high places.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You're not going to you're not going to mess it up.
And look the thing about share Point links, I mean,
I have trouble with them. That's to me. There's a
whole lot of Microsoft complication going on in the background
when it comes to share Point and access and who
sees what and the you know, especially when you're working
inside of the any company's infrastructure where the IT people are,

(07:46):
you know, are the ones managing the back end of that.
There will be there'll be certain things that you can
Google or ask AI to help you navigate in share Point,
and sometimes it's not going to work in your company
system because they've got that feature turned off or you know,
or whatever. So I wouldn't blame yourself on share you know,
share Point if you in my and I'm a tech person,

(08:07):
but I do think that you know, for many, many
of the good things that Microsoft is, there are too
many buttons, switches, screens, choices. You're talking about you know,
a program, software that has been around now for thirty years.
It's complicated, it's clunky, it's not you know, it's it's
got too many choices and too many options, and.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
The people who build it understand it all and it's
not too much for them, but understanding that we all
have different brains, we all learn differently.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
When I see even this the instructions, my brain.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Is just like.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Vibrating. Yeah, it's like, oh, I'm going to have to
take it. How do you eat an elephant? One little
line at eight times?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
This one actually just sounds easy to me, And I
should say no, you know, look it does not too No.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
No, the whole point of this, but the letting you
know you.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Know, and I mean, and I also I just want
to clarify too, I'm not beating up on Microsoft. I
think that's just a it's just a fact. It's that
I use the tools every single day. But that you know,
anything in the world that you know has been around
for a while is going to wind up developing its
own layers of paint because it's redone and redone and
then and you know, you've got a customer base that
doesn't want to lose old features, and so you have

(09:23):
to try to figure out to maintain and build at
the same time. So I don't envy, you know, the
ecosystem there. I think it does wonderful things. But my
point in you know, share point is that it's it
can be eye blistering depending on how big the company is,
because again choices and you know, going deeper into folders
and subfolders and subfolders, and you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
And at some point your brain is only going to
be able to latch onto a bit of that. You know,
for me, that's what you know.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's why it's a challenge. You know, the fewer things
I have to look at, the easier it is for me.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Do you think part of it also is because you
are given a list of follow up and that into
day's world. I think we're all kind of averse to list.
If you see something with ten things to do, we
immediately seize up because because we've got so many things
moving at any one given time to stop and read.
It's not something our attention spans. Let us do it

(10:15):
is that, but.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's also the world it's dragging me into. It's not
my world. I don't play in that on that field.
I play on a different field.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well, and at least doesn't have to be done every day.
And look, there are plenty of there are plenty of
people that they don't ever use social media. Some of
them don't even have social media accounts because that's just
it's not a world they want to be in. They
don't care, and it's not a big deal and they
don't have to. Nobody's forcing them to use that technology.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Also too, when you do, and this is something that
might happen, because I've seen it happen before, when you
hit that final thing and you hit that link to
upload it.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
And something doesn't work, it's going to tell me something's wrong.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It may not be you.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I have seen many of these where it's like what
and then you get the follow up email, Hey, gang,
the wrong link, Try this one instead. Okay again, if
you hit it and there's a problem at.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Ass, thank you. Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's funny because we're sitting here talking about this and
I just realized Murphy is very technically wired. I am
very non technically, more artsy wired. Where would you say
you fall? Because we all have I have to do
a little of both. But what's your strength? Where do
you feel strongest?

Speaker 4 (11:24):
I always used to think I was more creative. I
think it's less now and I had to you know,
even out more technical than creative, yes, Sam, but I
prefer being more creative.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Right because I can use my brain exactly.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I mean, I know I'm using my brain for the
others apart.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
But I like using the other side.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I like using the It's.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Almost it lights up a better part of your brain,
what it feels like.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yes, I want to be I want to engage in
it when it's creative, right creative, because creative sparks emotion
and feeling and all those that's all that right brain side.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
It makes Having a balance of both, I think is great.
I don't know that I'm naturally the most creative person
in the in the world at all. I'm a good troubleshooter,
but I think that's more left brain than it is.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Absolutely, absolutely, and and.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
But that's always the way that I have been wired
since I can remember being a kid when I was
bored and taking things apart to look at how they
actually function and work.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Just I never would have taken something. I have played
with it.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, I destroyed things I shouldn't have broken, right,
potentially taking things.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
And I love math too, So that is that other side.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Maybe you're a good balance. Yeah, wonderful.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
So okay, so I'll try to I feel a little
bit less anxious. I am going to write some notes,
So thank you for that. Is a very good piece
of advice for someone like me who's going to tackle
a technical project this afternoon after I, you know, spit
out some creativity and then it becomes technical.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Oh, this might be one of those afternoons where I
get a phone call. Huh, well, I'll probably hit me
up first.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Missed any part of the show.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
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