June 25, 2026 • 37 mins
On today’s episode, Karen covers Buffalo Calf Road Woman, the Cheyenne warrior who defeated Custer.
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Great question? Baseball Girl two forty seven says I needed
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It's like an old timey mullet party in the front.
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Just love that people got into that as well. Yeah,
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Yes? And you have to do it in one week.
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Hairs Ford Kelly McGillis Lucas Haas. Harrison Ford goes undercover
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It's from like eighty nine.
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He's the best child actor.
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But I feel like you if I said, Harrison Ford
goes undercover with the Amish you would have gone, oh, yeah,
I've seen that. I haven't seen it also, and that's
very much tied to So Witness is your assignment just
in honor of the chinz drop Beard got it. But
then also after that we might do a Harrison Ford
assignment of I must have you watch.
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The Fugitive, Right, My assignment for you is you've tanted
to fake beard and try and eat some stew with
it on.
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All you have to do is watch a movie.
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Okay, witness and I wrote nineteen eighty nine? Why did
I don't need this? Was I?
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Right?
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No, it's eighty five eighty five.
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I'm changing it so I don't watch the wrong one. Yeah,
I don't watch the one from eighty eighty nine.
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Witnesses so dirty, dude, that is like a made for Cinemax.
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I was provided some information just to convince you more.
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It's my solo story. I saw a TikTok.
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I need a T shirt that said I saw TikTok
I do because it's all I say and kind of
all I do. But it's great because, as we all know,
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So I find that on TikTok, I'm finding so many
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those people that are now the ones telling the story,
(07:04):
which I love. So I don't know if this person
is any of those things, but they're the reason that
I learned about this story I'm about to tell you,
and they inspired me to want to tell the story
as well.
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Love it.
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So it's a TikTok from a woman named Mary Kate Teski.
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Okay.
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So that's her name on TikTok if you want to
go follow her. This is how I first found out
about this story.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So, if you are listening to this the day this
episode comes out, which is June twenty fifth, twenty twenty six, Hi,
your first day of listener, I want you to know
today's one hundred and fiftieth anniversary of one of the
most infamous battles in American history. The Battle of Little Bighorn,
also known as Custer's Last Stand Okay, On this day
in eighteen seventy six, Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer and
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his men were wiped out by Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and
Arapahoe warriors who are under the command of legendary Native
leaders like Crazy Horse and Sitting Bowl. Of course, the
history lesson we got about this battle presents Custer as
some kind of noble martyr to our expanding nation and
completely ignores the Native American experience and perspective and version
(08:14):
of the story. But that changed around two thousand and
five when Montana's tribal colleges began to spearhead a push
to preserve the state's native histories and storytelling. And so
they gather a group of Northern Cheyenne storytellers in Billings, Montana,
so that they can share their oral history of the
Battle of Little Bighorn, which the Cheyenne and other Plains
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tribes actually called the Battle of the Greasy Grass. So
from many people outside the Cheyenne community they will be
hearing for the first time that day the truth about
what happened, and what those storytellers in Billings describe ends
up capturing headlines across the country because for the first
time we hear about the Cheyenne warrior responsible for customs death.
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So today, in honor of the one hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
I'm going to tell you the story of that warrior.
Her name is Buffalo Calf Road Woman.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Our sources for today's story are articles from the Independent
Record and the Billings Gazette archives and the work of
writers Rosemary and Joseph Aganito, and the rest of the
sources are in our show notes. Okay, so everything in
this is going to be very condensed and very like
our version of things. Yeah, this is the Karen Georgia
(09:33):
Wikipedia version of things called my favorite Murder, no Offense,
Maaron mclash and my brilliant researcher.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But to tell stories like this, it's like I.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Will assume people know as little as I do about
American history, about Native American history, about all these things
that are really important that I just feel fully uneducated about.
So by the eighteen hundreds, in America, the Cheyenne are
a powerful nation spread across the Great Plains with a
population in the thousands. They are a vibrant, horse centric
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culture with a highly organized military system. And while Cheyenne
warrior culture is largely associated with men, gender norms are
not cut and dried with this tribe. Author's Rosemary and
Joseph and Gando write about the Cheyenne quote. We have
numerous accounts of women taking up weapons and risking their
lives when attacked. Women were adept at using a variety
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of weapons, including the gun end quote. So by the
eighteen forties, what's going on in the United States is
that we are aggressively expanding under the banner of manifest destiny,
which is basically the belief that white Americans are ordained
by God to spread across the North American continent and
to take whatever they want. Essentially, so, while the Cheyenne
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have long had to defend themselves against rival tribes, the
defense is now needed to fight the encroachment of white
settlers and the army. So as tensions ramp up, some
Chyan leaders seek peace with the United States. At this point,
the Chyenne nation is broadly divided into Northern and Southern Cheyenne,
so Buffalo Calf Road woman is born into the Northern
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Cheyenne tribe in what is now Montana. Her birth year
is believed to be eighteen forty four. But unfortunately we
have almost no personal details about Buffalo Calf Road Woman
or her life because Cheyenne oral history is heavily disrupted
by forced assimilation onto reservations and into places like Native
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American boarding schools, which that story also needs to be told,
And I have been trying to work out a story
about that. Marin and I have for literally years to
get it told correctly concisely. It's so expansive, it's so horrific,
and it's colonization. It's basically, how do you tell the
story of colonization in this country? So what we do
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know about the life of Buffalo Calf Road Woman is
that her childhood is shaped by an ever escalating tension
with these white pioneers in the US military. In eighteen
fifty one, when she's about seven years old, the Treaty
of Fort Laramie is signed in Wyoming, so it formally
recognizes a large stretch of the Great Plains as belonging
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to seven different tribes that include the Cheyenne. But just
a few years after that signing, in eighteen fifty eight,
gold is discovered in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado, and
so white miners flood the area in what's now remembered
as the Pike's Peak Gold Rush. So, even though this
is supposed to be a protected land, the United States
does nothing to stop them. Then, in eighteen sixty one,
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the betrayal multiplies when the US signs a new treaty
that shrinks Cheyenne territory down to a thirteenth roughly a
thirteenth of its previous size, so that it can open
more land to white settlement and mining operations. Many Cheyenne
simply refuse to comply, continuing to hunt and live on
land that is now suddenly declared off limits to them,
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even though they have lived there for literally thousands of years.
Buffalo Calf Road woman is around fifteen years old when
all of this starts taking place. She's coming of age
as this violence begins to intensify across the plains, and,
as writer Catherine S. Gardner puts it, quote, she never
experienced the Chyenne life of her elders. From birth until
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her death, her tribe and culture were continuously under threat
of extermination, and it's kind of fascinating because she has
and it'll come up a little bit later, but she
has a brother, and imagining the life of a young
woman who absolutely had to know how to fight, absolutely
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had to be good at it, and in their culture,
which is a militaristic culture, that was a big thing
for the Chyenne. I just can't imagine that she didn't
absolutely go get right into the training and the fray
and everything else. She's a teenager watching her people being massacre. So,
in start contrast to Buffalo calf Road Woman's story and
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the fact that we barely know anything about it, we
know a lot about the early life of George Armstrong Custer.
He was born in Ohio in eighteen thirty nine, just
a few years before Buffalo calf Road Woman was born.
Custer is largely raised in Michigan. He develops an early
knack for getting into trouble. He does very badly in school.
He graduates last in his class at West Point in
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eighteen sixty one.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Last.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's kind of impressive.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's fucking nut so that he's one of the most
famous like military entities at this time and he was
the worst student in his class in eighteen sixty one,
he had an unbelievable seven hundred and twenty six demerits Jesus,
which I guess is like, you're in trouble. It happened
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that many times. But the Civil War starts the same
year that he graduates, so the US Army is desperate
to fill ranks, and Custer quickly becomes an officer.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But his blatant disobedience is what helps him arguably rise
so quickly.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Through the ranks.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
He shoots up the chain of command while in his
early twenties and becomes the subject of glowing Union newspaper coverage,
earning him the nickname the Boy General, and some of
that reputation is earned. Custer is known for charging straight
into battle and relentlessly pushing his men while they're under fire,
with he himself often writing in the front of the
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cavalry instead of the back. He is seemingly unfazed by
the threat of death. Any of that sound familiar to
a certain personality type that.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
You've heard of over the years.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Narcissists, sociopath socupath Right, Yep, he's just like no rules
apply to me. Yeah, I do what I want. Yeah,
And Oh, it's something horribly dangerous. Let's all go over there,
let's do it. But he's also very smart, and he's
keenly aware of the power of self mythology, so his
public image is very calculated. Time Magazine points out quote
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Custer ghost wrote newspaper dispatches in which he pretended to
be a correspondent and inflated his own roles in battles
and military exploits.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, it's like he left comments in his own section. Yeah, like,
I love this.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He's so brave, what a great leader. He's also very flashy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
He perfumes his flowing blonde hair with cinnamon oil, and
he wears a custom blue velveteen jacket and a wide
brimmed hat and a bright red tie into battle. None
of those are standard issue. That was Whim's the call
his costume. Custer clearly wants to stand out.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It works.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He's famous before the war is through. So meanwhile, the
situation on the plains between the Chyenne and the United
States remains volatile. In November of eighteen sixty four, these
tensions boil over in a horrific way when an Army
colonel named John Shivington approaches a Cheyenne and a rapa
Hoe camp at Sand Creek in eastern Colorado. There's about
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seven hundred people at this camp and it's led by
Southern Cheyenne Chief Black Kettle, who's repeatedly sought peace with
the United States. So this is one of the many
tribal leaders of the Native people who constantly were like, yeah,
we let's agree that, you know, let's do this. Let's
divide up this land. There's plenty of it. We've been
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here a long time, and every single time it'd be like, sure, sure, here's.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Some pox filled blankets.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Massacre.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, to the point where at this camp there's a
white flag and an American flag flying. But Colorado's then
Governor John Evans does not seem to care. He wants
to chyend removed from this area. So Shivington and some
seven hundred volunteer soldiers attack the camp and they kill
around one hundred and fifty people, and most of them
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are women and children. The survivors are traumatized by memories
of their loved ones being mutilated in front of them.
News of the massacre spreads quickly across the plains, provoking fear, despair,
and the end of whatever hope was left that the
US could be trusted by the Cheyenne and the Native people,
and even some white Americans are outraged at the time,
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and Shivington ends up resigning in disgrace. Still, neither he
nor any of his men are criminally prosecuted for the
massacre at Sand Creek. Now it's eighteen sixty five, the
Confederacy has been defeated. The Civil War comes to an end,
so a now twenty five year old Custer is sent
to the frontier. He swaps his blue velveteen for buckskins,
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which again are not standard issue. So he's got his
new costume, his new personality, and his next assignment is
to help force the planes tribes onto US designated reservations.
These are very difficult campaigns for the United States. They
are usually very much outmatched by the Native warriors. Meanwhile,
in eighteen sixty seven, Custard ditches his post to visit
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his wife in Kansas, which results in a court martial,
his suspension from rank, and the loss of his paycheck
for a year. Despite his insubordination, though the US Army
is convinced that they need someone as aggress of his
Custer to fight against these resisting planes tribes, so less
than a year after being court martialed, he's reinstated, and
the newspapers refer to it as quote Custer's luck. The
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system is beyond rigged. So the next year, in eighteen
sixty eight, the now twenty nine year old Custer is
brought to Black Kettle's village, now sitting on the Washida
River in modern Oklahoma. Four years after the Sand Creek massacre.
Black Kettle is still trying to broke her peace with
the United States, but the US military increasingly classifies any
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Native communities living outside the reservations to be quote hostile adversaries.
So Custer's men carry out another brutal attack. They killed
dozens of Native people, including Black Kettle himself. They killed
the chief, hundreds of horses are slaughtered, and lodges are
burned to the ground. The news of these attacks again
spread rapidly across the plains, and again even among white settlers.
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The brutality and violence of this attack instantly makes Custer
a controversial leader, but it also cements him as one
of the United states most well known so called quote
unquote Indian fighters. Around the same time, in eighteen sixty eight,
a second Treaty of Fort Laramie is signed. The treaties
have the same name because they're signed at Fort Laramie
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at both times. But this treaty establishes the Great Sioux
Reservation and recognizes the Black Hills in the Dakota Territory
as belonging to the Lakota. But the same situation plays
out here like it did before. In eighteen seventy four,
gold is discovered in the Black Hills, white miners come
flooding in. The US Army, for its part, sends Custer
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to investigate the reports of gold. He confirms them, and
then that leads the US government to try to purchase
the Black Hills back from the Lakota. Can imagine the
Lakota say no, which begins to fuel tensions with the US,
but then strengthens resistance among the plains tribes. So it's
the Lakota, the Arapaho, and the Chyenne. So the US
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seizes the Black Hills from the Lakota in eighteen seventy seven,
and just fyi. A century later in nineteen eighty, the
Supreme Court rules this seizure was unjust and they awarded
the Sioux Nation monetary compensation, but the Sioux Nation refused
to take the money, insisting they just want the land back.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
The fight to return this land continues to this day.
It's believed that land is now worth more than a
billion dollars. By eighteen seventy six, the conflict between the
United States Army and a coalition of Northern Cheyenne, Arapahoe,
and Lakota warriors has boiled over into the Great Sioux War.
Buffalo calf Road Woman is now in her early thirties
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and she's living in the Rosebud Valley of Montana along
Rosebud Creek with Lakota and to Rapahoe allies. And here
in June of eighteen seventy six, a US general named
George Crook arrives outside of her camp with thirteen hundred
of his men, and the Native coalition fights them in
a battle that lasts several hours. According to a tribal
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oral tradition, Buffalo Calf Road Woman's brother, a warrior named
comes in Sight, is among the thousands of Native men
who charge the US soldiers. But during the fighting, Comes
in Sight is knocked off his horse and he gets
trapped under fire. So Essentially, in these battles, if you
get knocked off your horse, it's basically you're dead because
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someone just comes by and shoots you. So he's on
the ground. His death is all but insured until his sister,
Buffalo Calf Road Woman, jumps onto her horse and charges
directly into battle. She rides so fast no bullets can
strike her, and per the oral account, she pulls her
brother up onto her horse, and she gets him to
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safety Jesus in the middle of a full on war.
In the end, the Native coalition forces the US troops
to retreat. Today, United States history remembers this event as
the Battle of the Rosebud, but the Cheyenne remember it
as the fight where the girl saved her brother. Wow,
Buffalo Calf Road Woman is believed to be the only
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female warrior who rides into this battle. So this Native
victory is extremely important because just eight days later, Custer
arrives at another encampment belonging to the same Native coalition,
but this time they're in the Little Bighorn Valley in
southeastern Montana, and this time, crucially, Custer does not have
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the amount of troops like reinforcements that General Crook had.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They have all retreated after the loss at.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The Battle of the Rosebud, at the fight where the
girl saved her brother. But on top of that, Custer
badly underestimates the size of the coalition that he is
about to attack, and probably the talent of it. So
on June twenty fifth, eighteen seventy six, Custer and around
six hundred soldiers arrived near the Little Big Horn encampment.
His forces are split into several battalions intended to attack
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the camp from different directions. Custer himself heads north with
about two hundred men. But what they don't know is
that word of this impending attack is sprending quickly among
the tribes. They know it, they have looked at they
know how to use this land and protect their camps,
and so immediately they know that it's happening, And thousands
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of warriors rise up and ride into battle, many of
the same who had just.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Fought the Battle of the Rosebud days earlier.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The Battle of Little Bighorn is hard fast and totally chaotic.
One US battalion attacks, only to immediately retreat after realizing
how incredibly outnumbered they are. Then a second battalion retreats
and so Custer looks around. All his men are leaving,
but he makes himself and his two hundred men push
forward anyway, and they are completely overwhelmed. In less than
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an hour, every single soldier riding with Custer is killed,
including Custer himself.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And because there's no survivors who can report back to
the army officially what happened, or to newspaper reporters, the
historical record around Custer's last moments are very murky, which
of course then sets the stage for the folk hero
treatment that he ends up getting. What we do know
is that Custer's body is found among dozens of his
men with two bullet wounds, one is in his heart
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and the others in his head. It's not until two
thousand and five in Billings, Montana, when those Northern Chyenn
storytellers finally share their oral history of Little Bighorn, that
we learn what really happened. They say that Colonel Custer
was shot to death on the ground because he got
knocked off his horse by a warrior's club, And that
(25:56):
day they reveal that the same woman who say her
brother from certain death in the battle days before is
the one who knocked Custer off his horse. It's Buffalo
calf Road woman.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And the oral accounts describe her as being quote out
in the open during this intense battle. Wasn't like she
was off to the side or whatever. She was in
the fray. And they also confirmed that quote she stayed
on her horse the entire time.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So the Battle of Little Bighorn is arguably the most
famous Native victory of the Plains Wars and one of
the most infamous defeats in the US Army's history. The
Northern Cheyenne say that's the reason they kept the story
of Buffalo calf Road Woman a secret for so long.
They were afraid that when the Army heard that a
Cheyenne woman is basically the one who got Custer or killed,
(26:48):
it would result in even harsher assaults by the Army
on their tribes. Yeah, the US still seeks retribution for
the defeat, and Buffalo calf Road Woman, like many Cheyenne,
remain under constant pressure from the military to submit to
US authority or be killed. In eighteen seventy seven, she
and her family will be forced onto an Oklahoma reservation.
(27:10):
She spends about a year there and during brutal living conditions,
and it's belief there she gives birth to her second child.
Not long after, in eighteen seventy eight, she and her
family join what's known as the Northern Cheyenne Exodus, which
was a desperate, defiant, and ultimately successful push led by
the Northern Cheyenne chiefs Morning Star and Little Wolf to
(27:32):
leave the reservation and return to its Montana homeland. So
Buffalo calf Road Woman is one of the three hundred women, men,
and children who escape the Oklahoma reservation. They set out
on a dangerous, exhausting journey, spanning hundreds of miles. Along
the way, members of the group are captured by American
troops or they're killed in skirmishes. Others die of exhaustion
(27:55):
or of illness, and Buffalo Calfe Road Woman is among those.
She dies in eighteen seventy nine in her mid thirties,
likely of dip theory, We're not sure. She's believed to
be buried somewhere near present day Miles City, Montana, but
her grave has never been identified. It's unclear how many
members of this group ultimately made it to Montana. Sources
(28:16):
suggest it's less than half the original number, so around
one hundred and fifty people. But this exodus puts enough
political pressure on the US government that the Northern Cheyenne
who do make it to Montana are not forced back
to Oklahoma. This is how the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation
in southeastern Montana is established in eighteen eighty four. And
(28:37):
of course, in death, General Custer and Buffalo calf Road
Woman could not have been treated more differently. Custer is
the subject of countless history books, biographies, paintings, photographs, yet
there isn't a single confirmed portrait of Buffalo calf Read
Woman to be found, and most of the images that
you see online of her use either misidentified photos of
(28:59):
other Native women or slop ai where it's just slop ai.
So in February twenty twenty six, the Trump administration issues
an executive order calling for a review of signs and
exhibits at national parks and monuments that could be seen
as critical of the US government. That includes signage at
the site of the Battle of Little Bighorn. The Washington
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Post reported earlier this year that quote at Little Bighorn
Battlefield National Monument in Montana exhibit text that described the
United States being quote hungry for golden land and breaking
promises to Native Americans was ordered changed or removed.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Just fucking rewrite history. Why don't check.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
An erase it worked before? Another text describing how US
run boarding schools for Indigenous children violently erased cultural identities
and language was also deemed not to comply with Trump's policy.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
If the facts don't comply with your policy, your fullling
was wrong with their fucking policy.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I guess okay, it's not an option. No, it's not
a choice to say it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, not for fucking people who aren't psychotic.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So the Northern Chayan leadership is actively opposing this administration's efforts.
Tribal leaders issued a press release this past February saying, quote,
this attempt to change or remove tribal markers and monuments
dims the light of the healing and progress we have
all made end quote, which is a very generous thing
to say in the light of Native American progress and
(30:32):
how little any government has ever given them or made
for them, and you're trying to take that away. And
then but that goes too. While there's never been a
monument for Buffalo Calf Road, woman. She has always been
memorialized by her people, who have carried the story of
her courage, her strength, and her valor in two bloody
battles for more than a century. When telling Buffalo Calf
(30:55):
Road Woman's story, a Northern Cheyenne saying is often shared,
and it says, quote, a nation is not conquered until
the hearts of its women are on the ground.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Then it is done, no.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Matter how brave its warriors or how strong its weapons.
Buffalo Calf Road Woman's heart was never on the ground.
She stayed on her horse the whole time. And that's
what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Hell yeah, that's what we're going to do tonight.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
We ride. Today, we ride.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
And that's the story of the Cheyenne warrior, the one
who defeated Custer.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Buffalo Calf Road Woman.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Wow, I wish we could have the actual historical story
because but it's even more badass, and there's even more
fucking incredible things she did.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But like and other women and like her tribe that
we just don't know about.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And in thinking about that, how many stories have been
lost of people just like her because of the annihilation
of the genocide of the Native American people in this country.
It is the gigantic tragedy, the effects of which continue
to this day.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah yeah, well, great job.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I had never heard that.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I'm so glad I did.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Right, me too.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I wish we could know more. Do you want to
make a donation? Definitely, Let's donate to the Native American
Rights Fund. Here's their quote about themselves. They hold governments accountable.
They fight to protect Native American rights, resources and life
ways through litigation, legal advocacy, and legal expertise. Hell yeah,
so we'll give them ten thousand dollars. If you want
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to donate to the Native American Rights Fund, go to
NARF dot org and give them what you can give them.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Amazing. Well, great job, thank you, excellent solo episode.
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Thank you.
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She gets the best wine at tgif.
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If you're at happy hour your life is going well.
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I just saved really hard, literal tears at the bank.
I love that. Can you imagine You're just like standing
in the bank like it doesn't matter to you. People
don't know what this is, but I am absolutely getting myself.
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To a brand new place.
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This is a life changing experience and I'm going to
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Speaker 5 (34:56):
This is from Taylor on her email.
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My hooray is that my friend and I signed up
up for water aerobics.
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Yes as three two year olds, Yes, and we love it.
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I love the water and was frustrated by the lack
of swimming in adulthood.
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That's so true.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Yeah, there's not enough.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I dive in every class and the older ladies are
always shocked and slightly offended. But they're sweet and have
added me to their swim sister's email chain.
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Oh my god, so much shit has talked on an
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Betty you're not going to believe you should have seen
the way she looked in her three piece suit.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
We talk about books.
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We were nervous to go her friend and her but
it's now a big highlight of my week and actually
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That is such a good pastime, kind of like way
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shoulders and head above water almost the whole time.
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It's not going to get sucked up chat chat chat.
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I really love an alt workout routine is my favorite thing.
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Yeah, I'm not going to do it right, I love
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Hello, and welcome my favorite murder. That's Georgia Hartstar, that's
Karen Kilgaraff, and we're about to take you on an
emotional journey of the Soul. I love that it just
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podcast Soule.
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Okay, you had something to shell me?
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Okay, Hi, okay, Hi, I got to do this.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh well, the thing I was going to show you
is so in episode five thirty three and Exercise and Frustration,
I told a story that featured many many chin strap beards, right,
and it was about Elizabeth Packard, who was the woman
who was institutionalizab her husband sent her to an insane
asylum and thenk she got out, fought for everybody's rights.
(01:02):
But talking about her husband, it was this man, Theodopolis Packard.
And you're truly the most proud of that one.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
It was pretty great.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's pretty great in the moment, but we were really
enjoying his chin strap beard. They also came up in
the Henderson Lewelling story where the Quaker sex cult story,
though I recently told they've just been around.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Us recently, you've been sprinkling some neck beard into these
stories here and there.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
And the listeners have responded.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Did we get chin strap hate mail?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yes, but no, it was essentially just people in the
comments section talking about it, so basically. Jenny Scraham on
Instagram says, it looks like John c Riley is dressed
up and doing a bit, which is very true, dressed up,
but just in the.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Bottom half of the beer.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Aaron Jalisa on Instagram says the chin strap beard was
as bad as I imagine. Thank you? What in the
hell's be says? How is this episode not called Beard's abound?
Great question? Baseball Girl two forty seven says I needed
to see that chin strap beard to really get that story. Yeah,
it's terrifying. It's like, is that worse or a mullet worse?
(02:16):
It's like an old timey mullet party in the front.
I think this is worse though, because this makes no
goddamn sense that.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Chin is bear.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, but they can eat soup, and I bet there
was a lot of soup going around then, and Stew's
and Stew's and porridges, which is so hard to do when.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You have a beard.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I've heard my husband says, I.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Just love that people got into that as well. Yeah,
so then it gave me this idea. Okay, when you
gave me the assignment of watching the drama.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Right, Oh no, are you're gonna make me grow a
neck beard?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yes? And you have to do it in one week.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I want to give you the assignment of you watch
a movie called Witness, which has so many neckbirds in
it you wouldn't believe it. Okay, and then we're going
to talk about that movie.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Which one is that?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Hairs Ford Kelly McGillis Lucas Haas. Harrison Ford goes undercover
in an Amish settlement.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I don't know this.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What do they call themselves?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
What?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Here's it from?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
It's from like eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Okay, So Lucas Haas is a little boy.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
He's the best child actor.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I had the biggest crush on him.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
He is so good legend. Yeah, he's so good in
this movie, Like it's so real. Okay, I think you're
going to really.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Should I text Vince and see if I've already seen
it and just totally forgot.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
But I feel like you if I said, Harrison Ford
goes undercover with the Amish you would have gone, oh, yeah,
I've seen that. I haven't seen it also, and that's
very much tied to So Witness is your assignment just
in honor of the chinz drop Beard got it. But
then also after that we might do a Harrison Ford
assignment of I must have you watch.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
The Fugitive, Right, My assignment for you is you've tanted
to fake beard and try and eat some stew with
it on.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
No, I'm like, wait, that's not a here's the thing.
All you have to do is watch a movie.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, witness and I wrote nineteen eighty nine? Why did
I don't need this? Was I?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
No, it's eighty five eighty five.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I'm changing it so I don't watch the wrong one. Yeah,
I don't watch the one from eighty eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Witnesses so dirty, dude, that is like a made for Cinemax.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I had a lot of fun watching the drama
and then being like, I'm going to make up an
opinion about this and we're going to discuss it on
the fan call.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'll do it. Hell yeah, Okay, great, it's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's a deal.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I love assigning each other. It'scite to watch assignment signing
each other as signments.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I was provided some information just to convince you more.
Witness has ninety two percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh that I'll watch it because you know how I
live by the RT rating.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
You will only that's all I ever talked about, is
this RT approved?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Georgia's constantly say what did Artie say about this?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Because I got to check into my RT.
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Okay, So it's going to do a solo.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
It's my solo story. I saw a TikTok.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I need a T shirt that said I saw TikTok
I do because it's all I say and kind of
all I do. But it's great because, as we all know,
we're getting into an era where experts are finally speaking
and getting up on camera and getting on mic and
being like, hey, you don't have to be I don't know,
Sidney Sweeney to get here and perform and speak publicly.
(06:36):
It's not that big of a deal.
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Oh, I will because I'm the expert at peptide.
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Okay, the copper peptides are what you want these share
just found out about that. But it's basically like there's
more and more people come forward to talk about stuff.
So I find that on TikTok, I'm finding so many
more people who are the source of the information. The
researchers themselves, the authors themselves, the educative journalist exactly, all
those people that are now the ones telling the story,
(07:04):
which I love. So I don't know if this person
is any of those things, but they're the reason that
I learned about this story I'm about to tell you,
and they inspired me to want to tell the story
as well.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So it's a TikTok from a woman named Mary Kate Teski.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So that's her name on TikTok if you want to
go follow her. This is how I first found out
about this story.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So, if you are listening to this the day this
episode comes out, which is June twenty fifth, twenty twenty six, Hi,
your first day of listener, I want you to know
today's one hundred and fiftieth anniversary of one of the
most infamous battles in American history. The Battle of Little Bighorn,
also known as Custer's Last Stand Okay, On this day
in eighteen seventy six, Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer and
(07:50):
his men were wiped out by Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and
Arapahoe warriors who are under the command of legendary Native
leaders like Crazy Horse and Sitting Bowl. Of course, the
history lesson we got about this battle presents Custer as
some kind of noble martyr to our expanding nation and
completely ignores the Native American experience and perspective and version
(08:14):
of the story. But that changed around two thousand and
five when Montana's tribal colleges began to spearhead a push
to preserve the state's native histories and storytelling. And so
they gather a group of Northern Cheyenne storytellers in Billings, Montana,
so that they can share their oral history of the
Battle of Little Bighorn, which the Cheyenne and other Plains
(08:36):
tribes actually called the Battle of the Greasy Grass. So
from many people outside the Cheyenne community they will be
hearing for the first time that day the truth about
what happened, and what those storytellers in Billings describe ends
up capturing headlines across the country because for the first
time we hear about the Cheyenne warrior responsible for customs death.
(09:01):
So today, in honor of the one hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
I'm going to tell you the story of that warrior.
Her name is Buffalo Calf Road Woman.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Our sources for today's story are articles from the Independent
Record and the Billings Gazette archives and the work of
writers Rosemary and Joseph Aganito, and the rest of the
sources are in our show notes. Okay, so everything in
this is going to be very condensed and very like
our version of things. Yeah, this is the Karen Georgia
(09:33):
Wikipedia version of things called my favorite Murder, no Offense,
Maaron mclash and my brilliant researcher.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But to tell stories like this, it's like I.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Will assume people know as little as I do about
American history, about Native American history, about all these things
that are really important that I just feel fully uneducated about.
So by the eighteen hundreds, in America, the Cheyenne are
a powerful nation spread across the Great Plains with a
population in the thousands. They are a vibrant, horse centric
(10:04):
culture with a highly organized military system. And while Cheyenne
warrior culture is largely associated with men, gender norms are
not cut and dried with this tribe. Author's Rosemary and
Joseph and Gando write about the Cheyenne quote. We have
numerous accounts of women taking up weapons and risking their
lives when attacked. Women were adept at using a variety
(10:26):
of weapons, including the gun end quote. So by the
eighteen forties, what's going on in the United States is
that we are aggressively expanding under the banner of manifest destiny,
which is basically the belief that white Americans are ordained
by God to spread across the North American continent and
to take whatever they want. Essentially, so, while the Cheyenne
(10:49):
have long had to defend themselves against rival tribes, the
defense is now needed to fight the encroachment of white
settlers and the army. So as tensions ramp up, some
Chyan leaders seek peace with the United States. At this point,
the Chyenne nation is broadly divided into Northern and Southern Cheyenne,
so Buffalo Calf Road woman is born into the Northern
(11:12):
Cheyenne tribe in what is now Montana. Her birth year
is believed to be eighteen forty four. But unfortunately we
have almost no personal details about Buffalo Calf Road Woman
or her life because Cheyenne oral history is heavily disrupted
by forced assimilation onto reservations and into places like Native
(11:33):
American boarding schools, which that story also needs to be told,
And I have been trying to work out a story
about that. Marin and I have for literally years to
get it told correctly concisely. It's so expansive, it's so horrific,
and it's colonization. It's basically, how do you tell the
story of colonization in this country? So what we do
(11:57):
know about the life of Buffalo Calf Road Woman is
that her childhood is shaped by an ever escalating tension
with these white pioneers in the US military. In eighteen
fifty one, when she's about seven years old, the Treaty
of Fort Laramie is signed in Wyoming, so it formally
recognizes a large stretch of the Great Plains as belonging
(12:17):
to seven different tribes that include the Cheyenne. But just
a few years after that signing, in eighteen fifty eight,
gold is discovered in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado, and
so white miners flood the area in what's now remembered
as the Pike's Peak Gold Rush. So, even though this
is supposed to be a protected land, the United States
does nothing to stop them. Then, in eighteen sixty one,
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the betrayal multiplies when the US signs a new treaty
that shrinks Cheyenne territory down to a thirteenth roughly a
thirteenth of its previous size, so that it can open
more land to white settlement and mining operations. Many Cheyenne
simply refuse to comply, continuing to hunt and live on
land that is now suddenly declared off limits to them,
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even though they have lived there for literally thousands of years.
Buffalo Calf Road woman is around fifteen years old when
all of this starts taking place. She's coming of age
as this violence begins to intensify across the plains, and,
as writer Catherine S. Gardner puts it, quote, she never
experienced the Chyenne life of her elders. From birth until
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her death, her tribe and culture were continuously under threat
of extermination, and it's kind of fascinating because she has
and it'll come up a little bit later, but she
has a brother, and imagining the life of a young
woman who absolutely had to know how to fight, absolutely
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had to be good at it, and in their culture,
which is a militaristic culture, that was a big thing
for the Chyenne. I just can't imagine that she didn't
absolutely go get right into the training and the fray
and everything else. She's a teenager watching her people being massacre. So,
in start contrast to Buffalo calf Road Woman's story and
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the fact that we barely know anything about it, we
know a lot about the early life of George Armstrong Custer.
He was born in Ohio in eighteen thirty nine, just
a few years before Buffalo calf Road Woman was born.
Custer is largely raised in Michigan. He develops an early
knack for getting into trouble. He does very badly in school.
He graduates last in his class at West Point in
(14:27):
eighteen sixty one.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Last.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's kind of impressive.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's fucking nut so that he's one of the most
famous like military entities at this time and he was
the worst student in his class in eighteen sixty one,
he had an unbelievable seven hundred and twenty six demerits Jesus,
which I guess is like, you're in trouble. It happened
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that many times. But the Civil War starts the same
year that he graduates, so the US Army is desperate
to fill ranks, and Custer quickly becomes an officer.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But his blatant disobedience is what helps him arguably rise
so quickly.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Through the ranks.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
He shoots up the chain of command while in his
early twenties and becomes the subject of glowing Union newspaper coverage,
earning him the nickname the Boy General, and some of
that reputation is earned. Custer is known for charging straight
into battle and relentlessly pushing his men while they're under fire,
with he himself often writing in the front of the
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cavalry instead of the back. He is seemingly unfazed by
the threat of death. Any of that sound familiar to
a certain personality type that.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
You've heard of over the years.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Narcissists, sociopath socupath Right, Yep, he's just like no rules
apply to me. Yeah, I do what I want. Yeah,
And Oh, it's something horribly dangerous. Let's all go over there,
let's do it. But he's also very smart, and he's
keenly aware of the power of self mythology, so his
public image is very calculated. Time Magazine points out quote
(16:01):
Custer ghost wrote newspaper dispatches in which he pretended to
be a correspondent and inflated his own roles in battles
and military exploits.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, it's like he left comments in his own section. Yeah, like,
I love this.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He's so brave, what a great leader. He's also very flashy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
He perfumes his flowing blonde hair with cinnamon oil, and
he wears a custom blue velveteen jacket and a wide
brimmed hat and a bright red tie into battle. None
of those are standard issue. That was Whim's the call
his costume. Custer clearly wants to stand out.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It works.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He's famous before the war is through. So meanwhile, the
situation on the plains between the Chyenne and the United
States remains volatile. In November of eighteen sixty four, these
tensions boil over in a horrific way when an Army
colonel named John Shivington approaches a Cheyenne and a rapa
Hoe camp at Sand Creek in eastern Colorado. There's about
(16:58):
seven hundred people at this camp and it's led by
Southern Cheyenne Chief Black Kettle, who's repeatedly sought peace with
the United States. So this is one of the many
tribal leaders of the Native people who constantly were like, yeah,
we let's agree that, you know, let's do this. Let's
divide up this land. There's plenty of it. We've been
(17:20):
here a long time, and every single time it'd be like, sure, sure, here's.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Some pox filled blankets.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Massacre.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, to the point where at this camp there's a
white flag and an American flag flying. But Colorado's then
Governor John Evans does not seem to care. He wants
to chyend removed from this area. So Shivington and some
seven hundred volunteer soldiers attack the camp and they kill
around one hundred and fifty people, and most of them
(17:49):
are women and children. The survivors are traumatized by memories
of their loved ones being mutilated in front of them.
News of the massacre spreads quickly across the plains, provoking fear, despair,
and the end of whatever hope was left that the
US could be trusted by the Cheyenne and the Native people,
and even some white Americans are outraged at the time,
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and Shivington ends up resigning in disgrace. Still, neither he
nor any of his men are criminally prosecuted for the
massacre at Sand Creek. Now it's eighteen sixty five, the
Confederacy has been defeated. The Civil War comes to an end,
so a now twenty five year old Custer is sent
to the frontier. He swaps his blue velveteen for buckskins,
(18:34):
which again are not standard issue. So he's got his
new costume, his new personality, and his next assignment is
to help force the planes tribes onto US designated reservations.
These are very difficult campaigns for the United States. They
are usually very much outmatched by the Native warriors. Meanwhile,
in eighteen sixty seven, Custard ditches his post to visit
(18:56):
his wife in Kansas, which results in a court martial,
his suspension from rank, and the loss of his paycheck
for a year. Despite his insubordination, though the US Army
is convinced that they need someone as aggress of his
Custer to fight against these resisting planes tribes, so less
than a year after being court martialed, he's reinstated, and
the newspapers refer to it as quote Custer's luck. The
(19:20):
system is beyond rigged. So the next year, in eighteen
sixty eight, the now twenty nine year old Custer is
brought to Black Kettle's village, now sitting on the Washida
River in modern Oklahoma. Four years after the Sand Creek massacre.
Black Kettle is still trying to broke her peace with
the United States, but the US military increasingly classifies any
(19:42):
Native communities living outside the reservations to be quote hostile adversaries.
So Custer's men carry out another brutal attack. They killed
dozens of Native people, including Black Kettle himself. They killed
the chief, hundreds of horses are slaughtered, and lodges are
burned to the ground. The news of these attacks again
spread rapidly across the plains, and again even among white settlers.
(20:06):
The brutality and violence of this attack instantly makes Custer
a controversial leader, but it also cements him as one
of the United states most well known so called quote
unquote Indian fighters. Around the same time, in eighteen sixty eight,
a second Treaty of Fort Laramie is signed. The treaties
have the same name because they're signed at Fort Laramie
(20:28):
at both times. But this treaty establishes the Great Sioux
Reservation and recognizes the Black Hills in the Dakota Territory
as belonging to the Lakota. But the same situation plays
out here like it did before. In eighteen seventy four,
gold is discovered in the Black Hills, white miners come
flooding in. The US Army, for its part, sends Custer
(20:48):
to investigate the reports of gold. He confirms them, and
then that leads the US government to try to purchase
the Black Hills back from the Lakota. Can imagine the
Lakota say no, which begins to fuel tensions with the US,
but then strengthens resistance among the plains tribes. So it's
the Lakota, the Arapaho, and the Chyenne. So the US
(21:10):
seizes the Black Hills from the Lakota in eighteen seventy seven,
and just fyi. A century later in nineteen eighty, the
Supreme Court rules this seizure was unjust and they awarded
the Sioux Nation monetary compensation, but the Sioux Nation refused
to take the money, insisting they just want the land back.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
The fight to return this land continues to this day.
It's believed that land is now worth more than a
billion dollars. By eighteen seventy six, the conflict between the
United States Army and a coalition of Northern Cheyenne, Arapahoe,
and Lakota warriors has boiled over into the Great Sioux War.
Buffalo calf Road Woman is now in her early thirties
(21:54):
and she's living in the Rosebud Valley of Montana along
Rosebud Creek with Lakota and to Rapahoe allies. And here
in June of eighteen seventy six, a US general named
George Crook arrives outside of her camp with thirteen hundred
of his men, and the Native coalition fights them in
a battle that lasts several hours. According to a tribal
(22:17):
oral tradition, Buffalo Calf Road Woman's brother, a warrior named
comes in Sight, is among the thousands of Native men
who charge the US soldiers. But during the fighting, Comes
in Sight is knocked off his horse and he gets
trapped under fire. So Essentially, in these battles, if you
get knocked off your horse, it's basically you're dead because
(22:38):
someone just comes by and shoots you. So he's on
the ground. His death is all but insured until his sister,
Buffalo Calf Road Woman, jumps onto her horse and charges
directly into battle. She rides so fast no bullets can
strike her, and per the oral account, she pulls her
brother up onto her horse, and she gets him to
(23:00):
safety Jesus in the middle of a full on war.
In the end, the Native coalition forces the US troops
to retreat. Today, United States history remembers this event as
the Battle of the Rosebud, but the Cheyenne remember it
as the fight where the girl saved her brother. Wow,
Buffalo Calf Road Woman is believed to be the only
(23:21):
female warrior who rides into this battle. So this Native
victory is extremely important because just eight days later, Custer
arrives at another encampment belonging to the same Native coalition,
but this time they're in the Little Bighorn Valley in
southeastern Montana, and this time, crucially, Custer does not have
(23:42):
the amount of troops like reinforcements that General Crook had.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They have all retreated after the loss at.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The Battle of the Rosebud, at the fight where the
girl saved her brother. But on top of that, Custer
badly underestimates the size of the coalition that he is
about to attack, and probably the talent of it. So
on June twenty fifth, eighteen seventy six, Custer and around
six hundred soldiers arrived near the Little Big Horn encampment.
His forces are split into several battalions intended to attack
(24:12):
the camp from different directions. Custer himself heads north with
about two hundred men. But what they don't know is
that word of this impending attack is sprending quickly among
the tribes. They know it, they have looked at they
know how to use this land and protect their camps,
and so immediately they know that it's happening, And thousands
(24:33):
of warriors rise up and ride into battle, many of
the same who had just.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Fought the Battle of the Rosebud days earlier.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The Battle of Little Bighorn is hard fast and totally chaotic.
One US battalion attacks, only to immediately retreat after realizing
how incredibly outnumbered they are. Then a second battalion retreats
and so Custer looks around. All his men are leaving,
but he makes himself and his two hundred men push
forward anyway, and they are completely overwhelmed. In less than
(25:06):
an hour, every single soldier riding with Custer is killed,
including Custer himself.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And because there's no survivors who can report back to
the army officially what happened, or to newspaper reporters, the
historical record around Custer's last moments are very murky, which
of course then sets the stage for the folk hero
treatment that he ends up getting. What we do know
is that Custer's body is found among dozens of his
men with two bullet wounds, one is in his heart
(25:35):
and the others in his head. It's not until two
thousand and five in Billings, Montana, when those Northern Chyenn
storytellers finally share their oral history of Little Bighorn, that
we learn what really happened. They say that Colonel Custer
was shot to death on the ground because he got
knocked off his horse by a warrior's club, And that
(25:56):
day they reveal that the same woman who say her
brother from certain death in the battle days before is
the one who knocked Custer off his horse. It's Buffalo
calf Road woman.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And the oral accounts describe her as being quote out
in the open during this intense battle. Wasn't like she
was off to the side or whatever. She was in
the fray. And they also confirmed that quote she stayed
on her horse the entire time.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So the Battle of Little Bighorn is arguably the most
famous Native victory of the Plains Wars and one of
the most infamous defeats in the US Army's history. The
Northern Cheyenne say that's the reason they kept the story
of Buffalo calf Road Woman a secret for so long.
They were afraid that when the Army heard that a
Cheyenne woman is basically the one who got Custer or killed,
(26:48):
it would result in even harsher assaults by the Army
on their tribes. Yeah, the US still seeks retribution for
the defeat, and Buffalo calf Road Woman, like many Cheyenne,
remain under constant pressure from the military to submit to
US authority or be killed. In eighteen seventy seven, she
and her family will be forced onto an Oklahoma reservation.
(27:10):
She spends about a year there and during brutal living conditions,
and it's belief there she gives birth to her second child.
Not long after, in eighteen seventy eight, she and her
family join what's known as the Northern Cheyenne Exodus, which
was a desperate, defiant, and ultimately successful push led by
the Northern Cheyenne chiefs Morning Star and Little Wolf to
(27:32):
leave the reservation and return to its Montana homeland. So
Buffalo calf Road Woman is one of the three hundred women, men,
and children who escape the Oklahoma reservation. They set out
on a dangerous, exhausting journey, spanning hundreds of miles. Along
the way, members of the group are captured by American
troops or they're killed in skirmishes. Others die of exhaustion
(27:55):
or of illness, and Buffalo Calfe Road Woman is among those.
She dies in eighteen seventy nine in her mid thirties,
likely of dip theory, We're not sure. She's believed to
be buried somewhere near present day Miles City, Montana, but
her grave has never been identified. It's unclear how many
members of this group ultimately made it to Montana. Sources
(28:16):
suggest it's less than half the original number, so around
one hundred and fifty people. But this exodus puts enough
political pressure on the US government that the Northern Cheyenne
who do make it to Montana are not forced back
to Oklahoma. This is how the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation
in southeastern Montana is established in eighteen eighty four. And
(28:37):
of course, in death, General Custer and Buffalo calf Road
Woman could not have been treated more differently. Custer is
the subject of countless history books, biographies, paintings, photographs, yet
there isn't a single confirmed portrait of Buffalo calf Read
Woman to be found, and most of the images that
you see online of her use either misidentified photos of
(28:59):
other Native women or slop ai where it's just slop ai.
So in February twenty twenty six, the Trump administration issues
an executive order calling for a review of signs and
exhibits at national parks and monuments that could be seen
as critical of the US government. That includes signage at
the site of the Battle of Little Bighorn. The Washington
(29:20):
Post reported earlier this year that quote at Little Bighorn
Battlefield National Monument in Montana exhibit text that described the
United States being quote hungry for golden land and breaking
promises to Native Americans was ordered changed or removed.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Just fucking rewrite history. Why don't check.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
An erase it worked before? Another text describing how US
run boarding schools for Indigenous children violently erased cultural identities
and language was also deemed not to comply with Trump's policy.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
If the facts don't comply with your policy, your fullling
was wrong with their fucking policy.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I guess okay, it's not an option. No, it's not
a choice to say it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, not for fucking people who aren't psychotic.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So the Northern Chayan leadership is actively opposing this administration's efforts.
Tribal leaders issued a press release this past February saying, quote,
this attempt to change or remove tribal markers and monuments
dims the light of the healing and progress we have
all made end quote, which is a very generous thing
to say in the light of Native American progress and
(30:32):
how little any government has ever given them or made
for them, and you're trying to take that away. And
then but that goes too. While there's never been a
monument for Buffalo Calf Road, woman. She has always been
memorialized by her people, who have carried the story of
her courage, her strength, and her valor in two bloody
battles for more than a century. When telling Buffalo Calf
(30:55):
Road Woman's story, a Northern Cheyenne saying is often shared,
and it says, quote, a nation is not conquered until
the hearts of its women are on the ground.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Then it is done, no.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Matter how brave its warriors or how strong its weapons.
Buffalo Calf Road Woman's heart was never on the ground.
She stayed on her horse the whole time. And that's
what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Hell yeah, that's what we're going to do tonight.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
We ride. Today, we ride.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
And that's the story of the Cheyenne warrior, the one
who defeated Custer.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Buffalo Calf Road Woman.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Wow, I wish we could have the actual historical story
because but it's even more badass, and there's even more
fucking incredible things she did.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But like and other women and like her tribe that
we just don't know about.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And in thinking about that, how many stories have been
lost of people just like her because of the annihilation
of the genocide of the Native American people in this country.
It is the gigantic tragedy, the effects of which continue
to this day.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah yeah, well, great job.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I had never heard that.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I'm so glad I did.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Right, me too.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I wish we could know more. Do you want to
make a donation? Definitely, Let's donate to the Native American
Rights Fund. Here's their quote about themselves. They hold governments accountable.
They fight to protect Native American rights, resources and life
ways through litigation, legal advocacy, and legal expertise. Hell yeah,
so we'll give them ten thousand dollars. If you want
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to donate to the Native American Rights Fund, go to
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Speaker 3 (32:33):
Amazing. Well, great job, thank you, excellent solo episode.
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I love that. Can you imagine You're just like standing
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