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April 15, 2026 • 78 mins

It's time to Rewind with Karen & Georgia!

This week, K & G recap Episode 92: The Halloween Special, where Karen and Georgia read listener ghost stories. Tune in for all-new commentary, case updates and more!

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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921.

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's right, it's Wednesday, and that means it's time for
us to recap our old episodes with all new commentary,
updates and insights.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Today we're going to recap episode ninety two, which we
named the Halloween Special.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's so creative of us.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Why but why you ask? Well you'll see. Let's listen
to the intro of episode ninety two. Hi. Oh Georgia, Hi,

(01:09):
so nice to see.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Nice to see you. Karen. Love your green top.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank you. This is my one of two blouses.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
There's color. I like the color.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I just decided to go with some color.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Right. It shocks people, It brings things out of you.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It brings For about four minutes ago, I had fake
eyelashes on Oh my god. But and yet then the
rest of me is dressed like I've been in bed
for four days. It's a great combination.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, I need to tell you, Okay, I mean it's
not a big deal, but as of today, Mimi is
on prozac. Why my cat? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Am I the most Los Angeles person you've ever met
in your fucking life? My cat and I are on
pharmaceutical for depression and anxiety.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Wait, why is Meme on prosic? She's so chill, She's
a grumpy bitch.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
He's unhappy.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Where did you get the prozac? My therapist, you're not No.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
We took her to the vet and I was like, look,
she's just hiding in a box of my favorite murder
merch all day.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh. People love that. We should make them pay.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Extra freight for Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
So it'd be so pissed if I ordered some new
shirt and it I would be like, I have all
my own animal hair. I don't need this.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
So, as you can tell, this is the spooky episode
of my favorite murder.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
We start out with the creepiest thing of all, I
cat on prozac.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Everyone who's not from Los Angeles's like, what the fuck
is wrong with these people?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's hilarious. Oh yeah, so this is our special Halloween episode.
Yeah where because our normal show is not scary at
all or creepy or a huge bummer. So we figured
we'd go a little ghosty for you on this one.
And we asked you guys to write us your personal
real We begged you to make them true.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, and we were read for truth authenticity. Is that
what it's we read for authenticity to make sure you
guys weren't lying liars who lied.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's right. And Stephen Stephen, A lot of people don't
know this, but in his mustache there is a lie detective,
so he will sniff that shit out. The second literally
flicks that email open, he'll be like, uh uh uh
uh uh, no.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Way, Steven's mustache keeping you honest. My mustache is tangling.
There's lies in this email.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Since nineteen eighty five. I don't know when he was born.
I'm guessing it's ninteen eighty five.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I bet it was in the late eighties. Eighty seven. Yeah,
I wasn't specific. I can't. I'm pretending to be that
I won that somehow, and I didn't.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
You did, and I just try too hard sometimes.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
But guessing we were bombed out, I'm gonna go, don't hey,
take a product real quick, take one. Take one of
Mimi's products for fine. Last night George and I had
dinner Steven this you'll think this is funny. And the
one of the people at dinner was like, how long
have you been this podcast? I was like almost a year.
George is like almost two years. I was like, what

(04:06):
that blew my mind. No, mine too.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think I asked you as a question two years, Karen.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
No, Its like, oh shoot, wait, it must be two years.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
You can't be right.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, yeah, crazy, it's gone so fast, it's been so fun.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's a million years in podcast years, I think.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, two years for real.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Like this is the fucking infancy of podcasting, and so
that means two years.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
This is a long time.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
So this is a dog years situations, I'm saying, got it?
So this is like your seventeenth year you coming up on.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yes, do you know what you need to talk about?
What the thing that I've and everyone wants to talk
about this mindhunter?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Did I say it right?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
That's how you pronounced it. You pronounced yeah right, let's
talk about it. So you're no, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I am on like episode five and I must I'm
a sometimes Okay, I don't.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm a sometimes I don't want touch it on because
I fucking like it. It's really cool and exciting. But
and I but it's but I'm a sometimes.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well there's so much build up, and I'm sure I
had a lot to do with that because there's no way,
I wasn't gonna love this, Yeah, I just I I
permanently loved it before I ever laid my eyes on it,
And there were it did, of course, because all pilots
start slow and are difficult. But I this, I loved it,

(05:38):
and I like, I love his directing, and I love
whoever art directs for David.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Fincher or there's like things like that I love. It's
just like seen by scene that it's the innerpersonal relationships
of certain characters that I don't give a shit about,
Like I love when they're actually interviewing the criminals. Then
there's others like the guy who played Ed Kemper needs
all the awards.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I in my mind, I start going like, how did
you cast this role? Because you have to get a
guy that's like we need people that they have to
be over six six, like they have to be really giant,
but they also then have to be great actors. How
many It's not like, you know, LA is full of
those people.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
I'm like this guy.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I bet you they found this guy in like the
Canadian outback.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
He's probably really a serial killer. That's his jail he's
actually in.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, they were like this he's just good. We have
to hire hims. And I know it's weird, but more
things happen in Hollywood. Wait, like what every day I
read the articles, but I yes ed kemper Like for me,
I was like, I'm in whatever is happening here and
whatever they're trying to develop, because I could feel that

(06:45):
thing of there. It was it's, you know, a period piece. Basically,
it's like starts in the late seventies. All that those
old cars. Man, I was thinking the same thing when
they would kind of come around a corner and there
would just be streets lined with old cars in all
different you know, they looked so real. I just I
don't know, I go way into the detail. But then
I also love that actor. So the lead actor I love.

(07:07):
He's like a I mean, he's from a million things,
but he's also like a Broadway star.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
He's a little sweet baby angel.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
And beautiful and yeah and kind of had the perfect
like that's not how you picture and every like some
hard nose.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I think cigarettes reminds me of Dennis from It's Always
Sunny in Philadelphia so much that I keep thinking it's a.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Joke, that it's gonna be like a sketch yeah, but
like he actually is a horrible person. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yes, it's very it's jarring to me. I mean, I'm
gonna keep watching, of course.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Keep watching. I binged it when I think it was
when we were going we were leaving for the Anaheim
leg of Pictur. I like to call our weekends legs
of tours because that's how you know, rock stars talk
about it. But I bit. My friend Molly was like, oh,
it's on right now because they put it up at
midnight on Netflix, and I was like what. So I

(08:03):
started watching it at one am the night before we
left for that weekend because I was like, and I
got I think I got through the first five and
then you know, we had to leave, and then I
came back at the end, which was so satisfying.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Well, Halloween is when we started hanging out two years ago.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's a shit, this one.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yes, Halloween two years ago was when the podcast was born.
It was in utero, that's right, that's when we planted
the seed.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's when we did it with our personalities.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, that's when we actually boned.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
And then you know, you don't get pregnant for like
two or three days, right, right, so it could take
a while.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, and that's when you were like the inception moment
was Georgia texting I can't remember or calling me and
then being like, let's just do it. Put let's just
do it podcast.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I was like, Okay, if you make it really easy
for me, yeah, then I will. And You're like, I will.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Let's have a baby together, we'll name a podcast. We'll
love her and care and take her.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Going to be for Halloween this year?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh me, I'm going to be on my couch?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
What I am over?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yere on my couch?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Good?

Speaker 4 (09:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I Actually our friend has a party that everybody goes
to that's a ridiculous, humongous Our friend's Scotty, and he
said I promised him that if we were in town
on the day he has it, that I will go
because I always say I will remember. The year that
I was supposed to go, I drop my phone in
the pool and then I couldn't tell you that I
wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
But it was so boozy I think you would have
lost your mind. Anyways.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, it's just like grown up alcohol, like grown up
drunk kid party.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, but fun so, I mean just kind of legendary
but also I think I should do the thing of
the old people going early who cares about this topic
for real?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
But I also go early. I'll go early with you.
Let's early.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And then also because the parking is so crazy in
that neighborhood. Look how old we are, I mean, and
these kids are so loud and they take marijuana.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
They're so loud, they take marijuana.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Take marijuana right next to you. How could you even
see what anyone's dressed as it's due dark and your
vision's gone because you're high on marijuana.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Okay, we're back, Karen.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
How many blouses now that you're a full time podcaster
with sponsorship deals left and right, and how many blouses
do you?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I don't want to fuel the haters, but I think
I have upwards of six blouses at this point. So yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Jewel tones too. What if you told Karen twenty seventeen,
Karen that she would be wearing jewel tones on the regular.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
She'd spit in your eye.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
And that she and Mimi would take their prozac and
fucking leave prozac share.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I love the announcement of that, where it's like, so
you know, do you feel like now ten years later?
As Mimi's mental health journey improved since those days.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
No, we've just gotten comfortable with her anger, you know,
like I realized it's not it's not about what's around
her or what's it's just her.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
She's fucking mad.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
And now she's old and mad and have to live
with a fucking dog and little cat who's like she's
just not fond of. So I think that Mimi's biggest problem,
and Prozac isn't going to take care of this, is
that she's supposed to be an only cat.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
So and she's the opposite. It's just like and I
guarantee that will never happen to you.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
But she's going on strong. I'm twenty seventeen. It is
a long time ago, and Mimi's fucking still kicking it.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
So I think we know a lot of people who
are great examples of how bitterness and spite actually are
great engines and really move you along, really nicely.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Fuels the fire of life.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Okay, So this is an episode where we just read
Halloween Hometowns, which I love for us, Like, right, what
a great way to fucking not have to do our
homework for an episode.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Themed it out this is back when I had two jobs.
So we're just like, how about we have other people.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Do the work for us, right, and Steven's mustache figure
it all out for us. That's right, all right, let's
get into some spooky hometown.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
We asked you guys to send us in scary stories,
and you guys interpreted that how you will. Stevens Lying
Mustache of justice, Yeah, sorted those out and here they are.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, go Karen, Okay, I'm gonna read this one first.
The subject line is I'm glad she didn't look us
in the eye.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Hi, hey, all sociopath.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
My story is from a couple years ago. My niece,
two years old at the time, was standing on top
of my desk, pulling books out from the attached bookshelf
one by one. I stood behind her, ensuring she didn't
fall to her death should she trip on a Nancy
drew and stumble. I spent so much of my life
standing behind Nora, letting her do what she wanted and
just being there, and then it just it's such a

(12:52):
weird feeling of like, oh, I wonder how many people
did this for me when I thought I was out
by myself, like doing stuff and there's just an adult
there waiting to catch.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
You or not, or that she should have been there
yeah and wasn't.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, okay, I have so many options everything.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
So I stood behind her said that to our left
is bedroom door, which goes into a hallway that leads
to the kitchen to the right and the garage to
the left, kind of like a three way intersection. Uh.
We were in there for a little while, her pulling books,
me estimating how long it would tape to clean up.
When it happened. From my peripheral vision, I saw my

(13:29):
great aunt slowly start to pass by the doorframe. I
could see the red robe she wore all the time,
her short, curly dark hair, and her ever present bright
red tailor swift lipstick. Oh my god, my great aunt
died four years before that day. When she vanished from
the doorframe, I scooped up my niece, who had stared

(13:50):
unblinkingly at her the whole time. So the baby saw too,
Oh my god, and followed. But when I turned into
the hallway, nothing was there. She was one hundred percent real.
We both saw her so fun. But no matter how
many times I've told this story, absolutely no and believes me.
I'm into weird stuff. I believe the luck miss monster

(14:11):
is real me too, girl. No, yes, yes, because because
first of all, okay, don't make me get mad at you,
Georgia Aliens are ready go.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
No, I don't like this.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think the luck Steven, are you with me on this?
I'm totally you, guys, because listen, and this might be
your theory too. We don't know what's in the ocean
at all.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's not the ocean. It's a lake.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
But lakes are connected to the ocean in subterranean, underground tunnels,
and they could be living down in caves and places
that we have we don't know are down there because
no one's ever fucking explored ninety nine percent of the ocean.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I agree with all of the all of that.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
The ocean is fucking amazing, and monsters are among them.
Lockness Monster specifically was made.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Up by a dude.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
You. But that's a thing that's not true. It's not
punk rock. Has nothing to do with the dead Kennedys.
Right now, you're trying to be punk rock about the
Lockess Monster, and I resent.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Why is my musical taste being brought into this argument?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Because you're just you have to believe.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
It is the best idea. That's that's something that's a
holdover from fifty million years ago. Is like, oh, but
I was hiding around the corner. Nobody killed me off
that when that when that meteor hit, I was just chilling.
Oh and I saved all this algae.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I just want to believe in it.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Really insane.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Well, they found a supposedly extinct selacanth fish like that
had been dead for millions of years, and they found
it like twenty years ago, and it's just been hiding
out under Madagascar for millions.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I believe in cedar carfish or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
The Luckiness monster specifically, I believe in dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Listen, I don't think he wears that little Tama shanter. Okay,
so that I agree with you is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
No, he doesn't have it. He doesn't wear a kilt.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, that would be crazy. He's a fish, he can't
wear a skirt.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Okay. Let's let's put a pin in this I have
and say you're wrong, and come back to it when
that Luckness monster corpse washes up.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Finally, I will one.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Hundred percent I'll go on recording. Oh, I'll tell you
you're wrong. I will not admit that I ever said
any of this, one hundred per Karen, we.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Are the recording.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, never, that never happened.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
How do you believe the recording.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I've double recorded this, sucking aliens.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm taking a picture of this recording. Okay, we've totally
lost our place.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
So I got the aunt. Oh my god, that's right.
I was scared.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I forgot Guys, we're super scared. Remember the old lady
with a lipstick that passed.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
We believe her.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
A baby saw it.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Baby, a baby watching a ghost is the scare that
you're seeing too. That's your proof. It's down and down.
It's like humans have all these things that are like
getting the way of them able to see these spiritual things,
and baby is just like what a ghost? So okay, whatever?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Why would that baby look away from the greatest game
in the world pull books.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Off her shelf?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
It wouldn't you still play that game? I love it.
I love it, and we're gonna get through one story.
I love these ones. Just it's all digressions.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
She says it was the most surreal thing that's ever
happened to me, and I remember the moment clearer than
anything else I've ever experienced. Looking back on it, though,
I remember she walked with her head down, staring at
the floor ahead of her, and never turned to make
eye contact with either of us, almost like she didn't
see us. At the time, this confused me, but now

(17:48):
that I've had time to think about it, she looked miserable,
and I'm really grateful she didn't make eye contact with me.
I have no reason to think this, but it can't
be a good omen to make eye contact.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
With a dead book. So yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's good logic.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I don't want to ever make a contact with a person.
I'm just say that on this podcast. Yeah, it's in
controversial stance yep again punk rock, punk rock again, well
ravy kind of. It's all my bad musical tastes getting thrown.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
You're in your big pants. Yeah, have you ever posted
that picture of you with those big pants on the
choker on which one? It's the one that looks like
it's the cameras on the ground, like it's almost all pants.
You look like a pants model, you know that one?
I think, so you have to post it that you're
so like nineteen ninety four, you know, I know, well,

(18:41):
I'm still not done with this email.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Go on, uh pants model, pants model.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I don't know what it was or what it meant,
but I hope she found peace, even if she hasn't,
if she hasn't already anyway, that's my ghost story. Love
you guys, even Stephen. F oh, even Stephen. I thought
they were saying it, like the saying like even now
we're even ste even Stephen, that's a given. I always

(19:10):
loves Stephen. Yeah, that was genuinely and legit creepy.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I love the idea of like seeing us being walked by.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
It's not like I saw this thing out of the
corner in my eir, like I would come into the
kitchen and all the drawers were open, because that's the
fucking scariest thing in the world, right, Like nothing is
scarier than all the whatever it's being open, yes, or
like all the things taken out of this thing and
placed on top of this thing.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
In those like conjuring movies when they do that, when
it's like someone steps out of the kitchen when they
go back, all the chairs are in a pile.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Sixth sense in that scene.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yes, when the mom comes back into the kitchen and
everything's just piled up. Yep, murder of us, run running goodbye.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
You wish you could run, but you have to stay all.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Right, Let's chew the big hairy man. Okay, I love those.
This is a love story, not a ghost about how
I love Harryman, hm, Hi.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Karen, Georgia, Stephen and all our favorite furree babies. I
finally decided to write to you after senior request for
scary spooky stories. Till this day of my mother still
thinks I'm crazy. When I was around the age of five,
I had a bunk bed. I'm a side sleeper, and
if I laid on my right side, I could see
my doorway.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Being five, I had the worst being five. The worst
thing in the.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
World would be sleeping in a room with a closed door.
I had to have my door open.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Ditto.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, for about six months. Often I would wake up
in the middle of the night. I'm not sure what time,
but all the lights would be out and everyone would
be sleeping in my doorway. I would see a figure.
It was large enough to fill the entire space. You
could see the outline of what I.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Would describe as hair and red eyes. There would be
heavy rhythmic breathing.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
What I would sometimes wonder if was the sound of
my father sleeping across the hall. When I would think
about this later in life, I would be terrified. I
didn't want him to know I was awake, so I'd
pretend to be sleeping and casually roll over. Well, little
me thought it was casual. I would eventually fall asleep.
I would tell my mother about him, and she would
dismiss him as a figment of my imagination. Finally, after

(21:10):
one night, I said to myself, when he comes back,
I'm going to jump off the bed, kick him between
the legs, and run across the hall to my parents' room.
He never came back. Years later, in grade nine, It's
Up Canada, I was at a sleeper.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
With some friends of mine.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
We were all telling stories and I began to talk
about the big hairy man. One of the girls finished
describing him.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I was floored. She told me to speak to our
friend Blake. I saw him in the hall at school.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Then following Monday, all I said to him was big
hairy man with glowing red eyes. His eyes started to
tear up. How do you know that he said, Oh,
I said, I saw him too. He proceeded to tell
me the the big hairy man would sit at the
end of his bed watching him. He says they spoke,
but he doesn't remember what they said. Two years later,

(21:55):
summer school, I'm talking to this chick. He would stand
at the end of her bed and watch her. About
a year after that, at a party at my friend's
house where I was crashing for the night, I was
sharing a bed with my friend Peter, laying in the dark,
I was telling him the story. He said, if you
could see me right now, I have tears in my eyes.
He used to stand outside my window at night. Finally,

(22:16):
about five years ago, talking to a girl I worked with,
he would stand at the end of her bed too.
None of us have any childhood connections. None of us
went to the same elementary school and only met in
high school or after.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
None of us could find a connection.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now and my husband goes away for the weekend with
the kids, all doors are fucking closed, including.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Closets, just in case. After telling my mother all the sightings,
the woman still thinks I'm crazy. Stay sexy and close
your bedroom door before you sleep tonight, Kelly.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Now that's super creepy.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Do I ever tell you my story about seeing something weird? No,
When I was a kid, like five, five years old,
and I was sleeping in a bunk bed at night
and we had it like you could. At the end
of the bunk bed was a mirrored closet like the
moving door is kind yep. And I was laying there
late at night, everyone was sleeping, and I saw the

(23:07):
closet door open on its own, like a foot just
like pushed open.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
On its own. And I freaked the fuck out and
run in my parents' room. And that's it.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
And you don't know what, Oh, I swear I remember
it happening, Like, I don't think that was a figment
of my imagination because it.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Actually fucking opened, yes, and you were awake. I was
awake and it opened.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
That's super creepy.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
And I had to like get all of my fucking
courage to run back because I had run past the
closet door.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I mean that those moments of like when you are
really young, you running, uh, kelly right, kelly, turning over,
turning your back to like basically a monster in the doorway,
Like even those moments of like being brave as little
kid are so huge.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, your adrenaline's just pomping.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's so I mean, that's so scary.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Okay, we are back.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Revisiting our most legendary disagreement about the Locknest Monster.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
How do you feel about it today? In today's money?
What's your opinion?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
In today's money? I think I'm three times more passionate.
I've invested, I've doubled down. I've tripled down to the
Locknest Monster. I believe now more than ever.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Even the guy saying I faked the Locknest Monster photo
Karen cannot. She thinks that the Lockness Monster threatened his
life and said, if you don't fucking the tell roof.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
The proofs that man was clearly in distress, and clearly
he would have never said those words had there not
been a real Locknest Monster at his neck.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Lockneest Monster is like snitches, get stitches, bro.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And there's your proof. I rest my case, your honor. Well,
how do you feel about the Locknest Monster these days?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I was against it, then not against it. I'm okay
with him being real if he is real, But I
don't I can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I was accusing you of being laissez faire about the
lockedness monsters.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I know I still am, but I get off to
the idea I love anger or nothing or nothing at all.
I do believe there's probably some crazy ass creatures out
there we don't know about.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
So why can't one of them be in the mess?
In the lock ness? Right?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Why can't they be underwater?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, hairyman or giant men? What's better for me? Giant giant?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Although I'm not against Harry in the least.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, it's like the hairy part is really it's what's
It's like, what is the word?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's really primal. It's really sexy and smutty and musty until.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
It tips over this like invisible line of too much.
And it's a fine line too much and in too
many places.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I wonder, now that we're on the topic, if there's
such thing as caveman smut, because you know, we know
there's hockey smut now, and we know they're like cowboys,
gay cowboys smut? Whatever is there? Do you think anyone's
ever written an erotic book about Well, there's clan a
cave bear.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
How many times have we talked about planting the cave bear?
This podcast like literally at least five.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I just seated my own conversation and brought myself back around.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I was waiting for you to stop so I could
yell plant of the cave bear at you.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
So sorry.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Oh, if anyone doesn't know what that is, it's.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
What all of our moms read in the fucking seventies
and eighties, and then we didn't realize it was basically
fifty shades of gray but in a cave with cave.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah. A lot of loincloth action.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, a lot of thrusting, like a lot of loud,
hairy thrusting. I remember stealing it, being like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yes, I used to love stealing my mom's books and
pretending I was reading like Judy Bloom or something.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I know my mom took away The Outsiders from my
brother when we were little, which made me want to
read it, and we went through her closet and found
it and read.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, and you love it. Yeah. Okay, let's get back
into more spooky listener stories. Okay, let's see. Sorry, I
fucked up these pages. Wedding dress ghosts, Hi, Karen Georgia,
Stephen Elvis, Mimi. I grew up in an old coal

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house off the railroad in old Minneapolis. Perfect start. I
was in a Rundown area of the city. It was
in a Rundown area of the city, as though as
though a designer had just said rust was their vision. Anyway,
the house was haunted. The trouble began when my parents
bought the house before I was born. My mother found

(27:38):
a wedding dress in the attic, originally belonging to the
old woman who died in the house. Apparently her husband
had left her years before, and she died alone. Oh no,
and then I just start crying.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
And that's it.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
And then yeah, isn't that the scariest idea in the world?
Dying alone? Happy Halloween. Mom liked the dress, and since
she was going to get married, she decided to use
this dress to save money. Lady, lady, you don't like it,
the dead lady's attic dress.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, she didn't want someone else to use it.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
She should have burned it in the backyard like a
normal person. You know, oh, you know, you do right
after you get married.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
This dress is actually when she goes to put it on,
it's just all made of moths, interconnected moths touching each
time they go.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Fly away the moment it's on, man, she disappears too
into moths.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yes, but then they're in a moth, a moth pot
up in the city. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
And the daughter comes in Mom, and she goes money me.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
From far away in a fan. Okay. To say my parents'
marriage was rough would be an understated it's because of
the dress. They fought a lot. But the energy of
the house was a darker variety. When I was young,
I would hear someone calling my name. When I'd investigate
no one had called for me. I'd see slithering shadows

(29:02):
out of the corner of my eyes. I get that
all the time. I always might be having a seizure. Honey,
I checked, I have floaters. There's all kinds of real
Get your eyes checked, everybody. But when I turned to look,
the shadows were gone. My mom noticed this, and she
was disturbed, but my dad dismissed it as nothing Allah
the shining, which is spelled the shinning. Even my dog

(29:26):
would not go upstairs at night, cowering whenever anyone tried
to bring him near the room and preferring to stay outside.
The ciest part to me, that's so not dog. No, Yeah,
dogs are like, I'm good out here.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna cut shiver in the yard where you
should have burned that fucking wedding dress. Brow, I'm gonna
go shiver what should have been the wedding dress pit.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, it's way safer out in the burning area. Things
came to a head when I was taking a bath. No, oh,
you mean the skeleton hand that came up through the bubble. No, no,
no way, let me I'll read this is what it
actually says. I was alone in the bathroom and I
felt someone touch my back. No no, I was too
scared to turn around.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And soon my mother came in and I rushed.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
To her, crying.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
My parents' marriage fell apart, and eventually they divorced and
sold the place. Since then, they've become best friends.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I never felt that dark presence again. And though I've
waned in my belief in the supernatural, I still get
chills as an adult when thinking back. The dress was
lost in a move. Oh god, it's in a box
and someone else's fucking attic. Now this is part two.
It's the scariest goodwill in town. The dress was awt

(30:39):
in a move, but seeing so many B movies in
my life. I'm sure it'll come around sooner or later.
I swear I didn't read that. Ahead, stay sexy, don't
get murdered, gratefully and sincerely, Alan. Oh my god, that's awesome, scary.
I mean you he had me at a wedding dress
in the attic.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh my god, totally, that's terrifying. Okay, this that the other,
this one we did. Okay, you're ready for ghost uncle
gets his way?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Uh oh, all right.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
My great uncle Jack died when I was really young.
He was always really kind, but also deediously sarcastic kind
of guy. He's diagnosed with lung cancer and lived for
several years with it thanks to chemo. As he grew
older and weaker, my great aunt Roxanne had a stand
up shower installed in their bathroom so he wouldn't have
to step over the tub with the traditional bath. He
hated that shower. He was in complete denial about being weak,

(31:35):
and he thought the glass sea through door was ugly
and tacky.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Hey fucking men.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
He constantly asked her if they could go back to
the traditional bath. On the day of his funeral, Roxanne
was in the bathroom at the sink, taking a breather
from the reception, and out of the corner of her
eye she saw a figure moving towards the shower. Just
in time, she turned to look at the shower and
the glass door breaking exploded, the glass out of nowhere shattered. Yes,

(32:02):
needless to say, she went back to a normal tub
after that, that sarcastic, hilarious dude got his way from
beyond the grave SSDGM Patrick. Oh my gosh, I love
physical things happen. Yes, that's yes, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Oh Patrick, that reminds that.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Just makes me think. After my mom died, I think
I told you the story. But our good friend Ellen
Ellen Slater, her father was sick and this was say,
like a couple months after my mom died, and she
went to she uh, like he had been sick for
a while or whatever. She went to bed one night
and she dreamed that my mom came to her and

(32:45):
was like, you need to get your shit together. You
need to get ready because your dad's going to die.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
And she woke up the next.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Day and he had died.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh my, the same night.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, I get yeah, what the fuck? I totally believe
in that.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I do too.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I mean, how the night my mom's dad died. So
my mom like a couple of years four I was born.
His name is George. It's fine Georgia. She was in
New York visiting her sister and they were all out
my family's from LA and out of the window, like
third story window.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
My mom hears her dad yell her name, Janet. She
rushes to the window, opens it up. Nobody's out there
that night, at that moment he died. Oh in that
it's asleep at home in La.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I totally believe in those. Yeah, those two those are real.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Like she the way she tells it to me, you know,
I one hundred percent believe her. I love it.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Well, yeah, I mean that's it was a real experience.
And also I think like when you're on this planet
and you have connections with people and you're and you leave,
like there's whatever it is, a burst of in or
whatever it is, there's some you know, electric there's like electricity.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
In the air.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's like radio waves, but ghosts waves, but ghost waves.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
It's people people, radio people, radio plus AM.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
On that AM frequency coming at you.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Ready for a Victorian ghost woman always Hey, they're Karen
Georgia Stephen and Katz. My mom and I moved into
a new apartment that was built in the late eighteen hundreds,
so it is a lot lots of history to it. Well,
after long days of moving, my mom fell asleep on
the chase. Oh well, well these blue bloods emails from
blue Bloods, this shaise loud. She woke up to fingernails

(34:34):
scratching on the arm of the chair. She woke up
and saw a woman in white looking at her. The
woman then slowly walked down the hallway and disappear. For
as long as we live there, I felt strange about
that house, as if somebody was always watching. The lady
never bothered us or was seen again. However, the people
who lived there after us have told stories that there

(34:57):
was a ghost that would not leave them alone. I
found out this story years later, and that creepy feeling
now makes sense. Thanks for the awesome podcast, Stay Sexy,
Don't Get Murdered, Brittany.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
What have momar to move into a place and just
be like you can I yell at your neighbors for
having fucking, you know, whatever TV show they're watching on
too loud?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
The Americans like, can you please turn that lower? Please,
or like fucking' what is it? Lord of the what's
the one?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, the Lord of the ring? Yeah yeah, turn that lower.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
But it's like, stop haunting me. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I know. In all those like ghost haunting stories that
I love that are on TV, it's the people move
into a house that they just like spent all their money, right,
and then they're stuck in the haunt this house where
crazy shit's happening. But they're all like, no, we have
to be in denial because we don't have the money
to leave.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
A couple of years ago, there was that story about
a family who moved into some house. It might have
been upstate, New York or something. I don't fucking know
the details, and they started receiving letters from someone threatening them,
writtening their children by name and saying specifically things about
their children and their family that they did like their routine.
They knew everything about them, and they were sending them

(36:08):
these threatening letters like move the fuck hour, I will
kill you all, And they moved the fuck out. They
didn't find out who was No, I mean, maybe they
have at this point, someone let us know, but like, oh.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
My god, it was I was just like I'd rather
a ghost. Yes, it was just some creepyzoid who like
probably grew up there or whatever, lived in the walls,
or just some fucking neighbor who was like god, they
listened to the Americans so loud.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, exactly. That's that weird thing of like, is some
crazy person that lives near you and there's the slightest
you know, they're like, we brought you a pie and
you're like, I'm sorry, I don't eat pie, and then
the letter writing campaign starts.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Luckily, the murderina who lives two doors down is really
fucking cool and she has the cutest dog I've ever
seen in my life. Oh good, thank you, Yeah, thank god.
That's very lucky because if she had just been cool,
had been fine. But one thing that the dog is cute,
So that's cool. Ready for a sappy ghost story, Karen, Yes,
because this is called hey, y'all, how about a sappy
ghost story. I was born into a family of funeral

(37:05):
directors who operates three funeral homes in rural Tennessee. Fuck yes,
so death has always been part of my life. We
had at least three Christmases and my eighth birthday party
at the funeral home because they were too busy to leave.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
My dad and brother have talked about times.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
They fell to spirit with them or was in the
funeral home, but I never experienced it myself until two
thousand and seven. In early two thousand and seven, my
grandpa and my yorkey dog passed away.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
That August.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I moved to Knoxville for college and was having a
rough time emotionally losing my grandpa and dog, moving away,
starting college clusterfuck of emotions. My then boyfriend, let's call
him Jack, lived in an off campus apartment and his
sister lived nearby with her little dog, Peyton. One day,
I was napping in Jack's room while he was in
the shower. I was so tired and in that half
sleep half awake state. I was laying on my left

(37:55):
side with my back to the door, and I felt
a little dog jump on the bed. I figured his
sister had stopped by with Peyton. The dog walked around
on the bed, put its paws on my right side
just for a.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Bit, then laid down at the foot of the bed.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Seconds later, I felt someone sit down on the other
side of the bed, figuring it was Jack.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Out of a shower. I didn't even bother opening my
eyes or rolling over. He patted my.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Right shoulder twice, just gave it just a slight squeeze,
and then the weight of him and the dog on
the bed was gone. A few minutes later, Jack came
in and woke me up. I asked him why his
sister had left Peyton here, and he said no one
had been the apartment and the dog wasn't there. I
didn't believe him, so I got up and went to
the living room. No dog and the inside dead bolt
chain lock was still locked. Uh, so no one had

(38:40):
been in the apartment. Walking back to the bedroom, I
smelled juicy fruit gum. Jack didn't shoot that gum, and
neither did I, but my grandpa had. He had kept
an open pack and his overall, so you always smelled
it when he was around. After realizing this, I immediately
started sobbing. I knew it had to have been my
grandpa with my dog letting me know they were okay,

(39:01):
and I would be too. Thanks so much for this
amazing podcast, and I can't wait to see all on Nashville.
SSDGM Megan, Oh my god, I.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
We're also fragile.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Do you ever get when we're away in hotels and
stuff and you're like falling asleep at night, do you
feel your dog jump on the bed.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I feel like cats jump on the bed all the
fuck do you That's hilarious. It's just like the phantom
phantom buzz and you're.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Like phone ring, Yeah, yeah, I don't get that, but
I miss it because Frank, my dog Frank. The second
I get home and like lay down to watch hev
or like whatever, he comes up and either slides all
the way up and lays in front of me or
goes into the bend of my legs and lays there.

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He's like has to be directly pressed up against me. Baby,
it's the cutest. And George goes into a little weird
circle like far away, and then goes and she's all mad.
She's mad that I left, She's mad I came back.
She's just always mad at me. Okay, she's glad that

(40:10):
you you're here. So this is from a Reddit thread.
I found out about this because a Reddit thread got
posted on Twitter, and so a bunch of murdering knows
let us know that this person was writing in and
they were trying to get heard. But of course, our
Gmail is chalk full, and no one had read this email.

(40:34):
So we got the heads up and we went in
and found it. And actually I began to email with
this person and had a good conversation with them, and
so they sent this email. And before I get started,
I just want to give a trigger warning. This is
a very intense letter, so people, if you're sensitive to

(40:55):
sexual assault stories, you're not going to want to listen
to this. A few months ago, a coworker turned me
towards the MFM podcast because a story was told about me.
Spoiler alert, I wasn't murdered. For reference, it was episode
ninety two in October of twenty seventeen. I actually wrote
to you once before and indicated that I didn't want
anything more published, that I just wanted to set the

(41:16):
record straight. But I've had a few months to sit
on this and some time to bounce it off my therapist,
and I've decided that I do want to tell my story.
It was so crazy to hear my worst nightmare told
on a podcast. It felt like a violation. So much
of this has felt like something that happened to me,
and I want to control this part of the narrative.
I want my real story told by me with my consent.

(41:39):
On January eighth, twenty seventeen, I was working as a
medical legal death investigator and forensic autopsy tech. I was
working as swingshift alone. The building we were in at
the time was old and decrepit. The building was not
connected to any hospital, though it did house the County Morgue.
The episode's part of the building was primarily off and

(42:00):
the basement was the autopsy suite and body cooler. That night,
the region was experiencing widespread flooding due to rain melting
the snowpack. Law enforcement resources were stretched thin, and the
old building was leaking and threatening to flood. The county
had made press releases that county facilities would be closed
the next day. In addition to scene investigations, part of

(42:22):
my duties were to process cases for autopsy the next morning. Traditionally,
I would do all of my writing and follow up
from my cubicle upstairs and save the hands on processing
until the very end of my shift. I would rather
process three bodies in a row all at once, versus
go downstairs three times during my shift. Even after years

(42:42):
of working with the deceased the downstairs creeped me out.
While I was upstairs writing a report, my computer keyboard malfunctioned.
I spent some time fiddling with it, but ultimately decided
to go downstairs to an abandoned office turned storage room
to get a replacement. Normally I wouldn't have gone downstairs
for another forty five minutes or so, but I couldn't
finish my report without a keyboard. I was in the

(43:04):
office door droom with my back to the door. When
I turned around, there was a man leaning on the doorframe.
He was wearing a scary clown mask. He was calm
and cocky, and he told me you're early. He knew
my routine. I was kind of frozen for a second.
He rushed toward me, and I swung the keyboard at
him like a baseball bat. To this day, I can

(43:25):
see some of the keys flying off in slow motion.
He pushed me against a bookcase hard. My vision went white.
I think my bell got rung pretty good, because there's
a couple seconds I can't account for. He had my
right hand pinned up near my head. He grabbed up
my skirt and ripped it. I thought he was trying
to pull off my lanyard that had a key card

(43:46):
and physical keys to the building. I tried to hit him,
but I couldn't get any leverage. He was so close
to me. Nothing I did got any response until I
tried to pull the mask off. That's when he pulled
the knife. He rubbed the knife over my face. He
cut my cheek and showed me my blood on the blade.
He called me a whore. He told me to undress,

(44:06):
and when I refused, he put the knife under my collarbone,
right at the subclavian artery and told me he would
paint the walls red. He raped me. When I yelled
and begged him to stop, he laughed and asked who
was supposed to hear me scream. He stopped and told
me to get on my knees. For the first time,
he didn't have the knife to my chest or throat.

(44:27):
I didn't think about it. I grabbed the knife by
the blade and ran running up the stairs. I kept
feeling something weird on the handrail. It turns out it
wasn't the handrail that was weird, it was my hand
I started to run outside, but realized I didn't know
where he was. Our old building was like a maze.
I started to go to my desk, but stopped and

(44:48):
hid under another investigator's desk. I couldn't find my cell phone,
and I called nine to one one from the desk phone.
It took a couple of tries, having to remember to
dial nine to nine before dialing out. I vividly remember
hiding under the desk, trying to whisper to the dispatcher,
and watching the blood run down my fingers and pool
on the ground. Our building was supposed to be secure,

(45:10):
and the responding police officers had no way to gain entry.
I had to leave the desk and walk through two
doors and a hallway to let them in. The whole
time I was expecting him to pop out, but he didn't.
It took law enforcement a while to clear the building.
They didn't have keys, were unfamiliar with the maze like layout,
and had to search every body bag. The man in

(45:31):
the clown mask wasn't found. I was released from the
er several hours later. My supervisor drove me home, but
we first had to go back to the building to
collect my wallet and keys. It was dream like seeing
the red and blue lights illuminate the area. Officers and
deputies patrolling in pairs in the pouring rain reminded me
of a scene from a movie. After the scene was processed,

(45:53):
my coworkers cleaned my blood from the office stairs, desk doors,
and wall. An email went out to the majority of
the staff telling them not to report until eight hundred hours.
One my coworkers, who are also my partners and best friends,
went downstairs to prepare everything for autopsy. They found evidence
that he had been waiting for me in the autopsy suite.

(46:15):
Arranged on the back of an evidence cart next to
an exam table were long strips of red duct tape,
two long pieces, two shorter pieces. The red duct tape
was dog eared, which is never done with evidence. As
it was described to me, they were ready for someone
at the floor level to be able to easily grab
ready to go. If I had been going down to

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process bodies in my usual routine, I would walk backwards,
pulling ajourney to that exact spot. No arrest has ever
been made. The only DNA that was recovered from my
clothing wound up belonging to my infant son, from where
I had held him before going to work. The investigation
of my case was transferred from one jurisdiction to another.

(46:57):
As the attack happened in a county building, resulted in
twice as many law enforcement officers being involved in various ways.
The detectives investigating my case forgot to flag it as confidential,
resulting in an unknown number of deputies reading details of
my case. One deputy shared details of my case on
a hook up app, one high ranking officer. One high

(47:20):
ranking officer shared the details with their family. And that
is how it came to you in the first place.
That night turned my world upside down. I moved changed cars,
my kids changed schools, and I ultimately resigned. The new
facility that we moved into a month later is state
of the art, with cameras, alarms, and ballistics glass. But
I was never again comfortable being alone in the Morgan night.

(47:43):
I will always have to live with the knowledge that
someone very smart, collected, and comfortable in a morgue is
still out there. We know that he had been in
the building at least twice before, and likely once after.
I don't know what exactly he had planned, but I'm
thankful for a random faulty key board space bar. I'm okay.
It took a while of not being okay to be

(48:05):
where I am now. I wanted to write to you
because I think sometimes the person part of your stories
gets overlooked. I found and reached out to the person
who initially shared my story, but I think I freaked
them out. Perhaps they were concerned that I was the perpetrator.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Oops.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
If you have any questions about details or you need clarification,
I'm happy to unscramble this. Thank you for your time. Wow,
So we told a story that was third hand and
not the person's story to tell. I don't think that
the person who wrote in had malicious intent, but I

(48:46):
think this is a very good lesson for all of
us when we think about what we're doing and how
we're talking and who we're talking about. So our apologies
to you who had to hear her story on a podcast.
That's the last thing that we want to happen. And
that's you know, that's just that's not what we're trying

(49:07):
to do, and it's not what it's about. And we
should have thought it through. And we're going to try
our best to keep aware of this and to keep
you in mind so that we avoid mistakes like this
in the future. And so George and I have decided
that we're going to donate ten thousand dollars to the

(49:29):
Rape Abuse and Incest National networked RAIN. And we thank
you for your understanding and for writing in and communicating
with me and letting us retell your story the way
you wanted it told.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Okay, we are back in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah. That that. The whole experience with the woman hearing
her own story on our podcast, with someone else telling it,
sending it and telling it incorrectly was really one of, like,
I don't know, one of the most of course humbling,
but also like really self assessing moments on this podcast

(50:14):
for me, because it was like, we're just reading stuff
and trying to get like quote unquote trying to get
our work done, and this as a possibility, of course,
never would have entered my mind.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And now, I mean, it felt so awful and I
think that it didn't enter our mind, and then it
did and it hasn't left. You know, like when we
tour and go to the cities, we do stories based
in whatever city we're in or state we're in, and
you're always like, when it's a recent case, you're always like,
what if that person's best friend or cousin or something

(50:46):
is in the audience. You know, how would I want
them to react to this because you can't help it,
but you want to make sure you're doing it in
a way that doesn't feel gross.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, and it was really I remember emailing with this
person and they were incredibly fair and incredibly just straightforward
about like not really being sure how they feel, not
liking it, like, and I basically said, we can do
any version of what you would like to do. We
can take the entire thing down, we can take you know,

(51:18):
blah blah blah whatever. And so what it ended up
being and what you hear in this episode is what
they asked to do, which is essentially it replaced the
incorrect one with the correct one, which is their own story.
And I think that was incredibly generous of them to
allow us to do that and allow us to make
that change on the show.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I felt very, very lucky that that's what their decision
was and that they shared that story with us.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Okay, now we're going to go back and finish up
this last batch of Haunted Hometowns.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
This is called Stabbed by a Ghost by Lacey, whoa
dear Karen George Stephen and respective pets. I'm a long
time listener, first time call, as all of my hometown
murders have been covered by you already. But I saw Steven.
She probably if somewhere fucked up. But I saw Steven
was looking for some spooky, uky kooky, oh honey experiences

(52:12):
for a minisovna to throw.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
My hat in the ring. Oh, I'm sweetie.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I was taking a siddy coke when she spends spooky,
uky kooky. That almost came out my nose.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I saw, oh, But then she goes on to say,
and it makes better. This summer, I was stabbed by
a fucking ghost. Why how ridiculous that sounds, but hear
me out. I worked for my family's bed and Breakfast
this summer. My family had been divided on whether the
house is haunted or not, and until I started working there,
I was firmly in the not haunted camp. I had
stayed there as a guest from time to time, but
I had never spent more than a few days in

(52:43):
the house. Once I started working there, I experienced little
things that I would chalk up to natural phenomena, like
my bedroom door swinging open or shut all or all
the window blinds flying up midpiss.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
That's terrifying.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Can you imagine here's it's.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
And you have to finish pin.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's horrible. That's a funny ghost though.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, that's kind of good.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Something something medpays. Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Being a skeptic, I totally wrote all of this off
until I was the only one on duty one night,
which you can't write it off because they're going to
be like, oh, yeah, well, let me really show you.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I was working on preparing some banana bread and a
savory bread pudding for the next morning's breakfast.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I placed the bread in the oven, assembled the pudding
to soak over night, and had thoroughly cleaned the kitchen.
I went to the back launder room to work on
turning a few loads of laundry while the bread baked
in the oven. About thirty minutes into baking, I went
to the kitchen to check on the bread. I went
to slip my hands into the oven mit and was
promptly greeted by a fucking paring knife, stabbing me in
between my ring finger and middle finger.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
WHOA.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I removed the knife and found the first aid kit
I went to go curse out my mother for leaving
a knife in the oven mit when my blood ran
cold and I remembered that I was the only one
in the house.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
A skeptic I used to be.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I tried to find rational explanation for why a pairing
knife would be blade up inside an oven mint, and
then it says, hint, there's no rational explanation. It was
not a knife I had used in the breakfast prep there,
and it was usually kept in a drawer along with
the other pairing knives. I racked my brain for hours,
trying to wonder if I had truly put the knife

(54:21):
in the mint in some sort of oh, remember.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Why this is here later scenario. But then I finally
came to the conclusion that the ghost was real and
probably Madame were for me for taking for talking shit
about him all summer. I apologized out loud to the
ghost and went to the doctor once someone else came home.
Now I've just got a fun little scar to remind
me of why ghosts are reel and you shouldn't call
them imaginary sobs lots of love, Lacey mean, And then

(54:46):
she said I.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Withheld the name of the BnB because I didn't want
you to say it on air, but if you're curious,
I will write back. Would love to have you guys
come visit. It's got lots of ghost and antique furniture.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Oh wow, we're there. That's everything I need. Yeah, because
I was thinking, I was thinking, oh, well, if you
keep obviously, if you keep your oven mit in the
same drawer as those knives. Right, but yeah, she wouldn't
be scared if that were the truth, be like she
would have already checked.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
And also you would feel it, right, Yeah, she just
used the oven mish they were out. It sounds like, man,
I'm when a fucking ghost cuts you move please.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
It's so crazy when ghosts can move.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Shit around, which is why I don't think it's real.
I mean, look, listen, do you think okay, go ahead? Well,
like I think ghosts don't haunt me because I'm like,
oh cool, I'd be like, great, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah, I wonder. I wonder if it is locational, situational,
or like about the people.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
I just don't think it's what we think it is
enough that any of that would be true or matter.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yeah, Like, I just don't think it's like old a
person who's dead, being like, m I'm gonna make this girl.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Freak out when she's ping, you know what I mean,
I'm gonna stab her in between her fingers, right, Okay?
But then I think that's also having been a person
who has a ghost story, the frustration where you're like, well,
I this is the thing that happened. Maybe in and
of itself, it isn't insane or like you can't explain it,
but that's not the explanation. And I'm telling you because

(56:22):
I was there.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
And it doesn't make you feel any better you experiencing
that thing.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, someone being like yeah, well that didn't happen. You know,
like people anytime I tell my ghost they're like, you
had sleep paralysis. It's like, no, because I've had sleep paralysis,
and I know the difference. I know without feeling.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Why do they need to do that? Oh I guess
I do that too.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
They want to solve it.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah, it's like if they want other experiences I've actually had,
I've been like, well I had an active imagination or
whatever the fuck were.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yeah, I just feel like that was fun.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Right, or just it's uncomfortable just to leave it with
anythings possible in this weird world. Yeah, is there a
man in the crawl space or is it just a ghost? Hi, Georgia, Karen, Stephen, Elvis,
Me and Me, Dottie, Franken, George. I will be at
your Fort Lauderdale show on the fifth, November fifth. I
cannot wait to see you, guys. So my ghost story

(57:12):
haunting comes from my hometown of Hamilton, New Jersey. Yes,
that's the same place of the Megan Conker murder. A
side note, I hope Cronow's her last name. Right side note,
I went to the same elementary schools her a few
years after this happened, So Sam. The elementary school was
very big on stranger danger lessons that they tore that

(57:33):
assholes to house down and made it into a park
called Megan's Place so the family didn't have to keep
being reminded with that house. And our school used to
take is there once a year to remind us of
the true dangers of going with people we don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
And that's the Megan's Law murder where Meghan's Law came
into play.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Yeah started anyway.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yeah, anyway. I was about ten years old when my
dad finally moved is out of an apartment and into
a house. The family that lived there before us was
an older couple who built the house. When the wife
died of old age parentheses. Might I add she died
in the house. Oh good, he decided it was time
to sell the house and go into a home. I
remember the first time I walked into this house and

(58:14):
the weird feeling I got. I chalked it up to
all the old people's furniture being in the house and
the wife's sewing room being untouched since she had died.
Her sewing room became my bedroom once we moved in.
No weird things started happening as soon as we moved,
such as things being misplaced that no one could remember moving,
weird noises that my dad would explain by saying, the

(58:35):
house is settling and you're just freaking yourself out.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
The house is just screaming, and you're just freaking out.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Why don't you like screaming? You're a child.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
The house is screaming in pain. It's perfectly normal, and
you wouldn't know. We've always lived in apartments. That's right.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
You don't understand that houses have feelings like people and
skin hold me pain, but sell a feeling, okay, So
fast forward a year later, my first night all alone
in the house.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I was using the computer in my dad's room, chatting
with friends on aim Oh yay, when I heard footsteps
walk by the doorway right under the staircase. I ignored
it as I thought it was the quote house settling
and kept chatting away. Shortly after the first pair of footsteps,
I heard multiple pairs of footsteps running, paired with giggling,

(59:20):
now giggling, please home alone giggling. Being the idiot child
I was, I decided it was okay for me to
go investigate. As soon as my feet hit the floor,
all sounds stopped. Oh that's cream. I figured it was
my imagination and went back upstairs to carry the on,
iming my friends. Once I got upstairs, the footsteps and

(59:42):
the giggling started again.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
This time I figured it was my dad playing a
prank on me, since he did this often. I ran
back downstairs, yelling, this isn't funny. I looked out the
window and when I saw his truck wasn't there. That's
when I really started to panic.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
I grabbed the landline and ran into my bedroom and
lock the door. That's when I heard heavy footsteps banging
up the basement steps and the sound of someone banging
on the basement door. No, my dad kept it locked
since he was convinced someone was going to break in
through the basement.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I climbed under my bed and started calling my sisters
for them to come get me. As soon as there
was a break in the banging, I bolted out of
my house and down the street. About five minutes later,
my sister's boyfriend picked me up and he had me
wait in the cars. He checked the house to make
sure no one was in there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
No one was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
He decided to take me home with him until my
dad was able to come and get me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I don't like that either.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Since that day, my dad made a joke about having
a man living in the crawl space in his room. Anything.
Anytime anything weird happens, the man in the crawl space
is at fault for it, like when my dad eats
all the ice cream sandwiches and doesn't remember doing it.
Thank you for reading my haunting slash ghost story. Allison.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Oh that was that's so so scary. Giggling, Yeah, nobody
wants giggling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
You don't like you don't think about it until like
being by yourself and hearing giggling. Did I tell you
that time that I was by myself in my house.
This was before I got George, so I didn't have dogs,
and I was sitting there trying to I was trying
to finish some writing and so it was dead silent
in the house and had been for like an hour's
step and I heard directly next to my ear a

(01:01:22):
zipper zipped up. What And I fucking oh no, sorry,
I had gotten George because I grabbed her leash and
was like, come with me, and we just walked out
the door. I went to the dog park and then
I called my friend Rob because I was just like,
this is You're the only person I can tell this.
You It sounds so weird, but I just zipper heard something.

(01:01:44):
It was just it wasn't in the distance. It was
like someone zipped their coat next to me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
That's so creepy, And.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
It was very clear. It wasn't like, oh, this sounded
like a zipper. It was a zipper zipping like one
of the plastic zippers on a seventies ski jacket.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Really, you know, like how serial killers wear like ed Kemper.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
You know, fucking Ted Bundy has some sweet ass fucking
the seventies jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
He probably on his seventies ski jacket, left the ski
lift tag.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
That was what to do because you're like, yeah, I
went skiing over the winter break.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yeah, I was up at Snowbird.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
How much money would one of those tags it says
Ted Bundy's name on it go for?

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Oh, I would say in the five hundred thousand dollars
in this day and age, these people who love serial killers, weirdos.
Oh my god, these people who love what kind of monsters? Okay,
let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Okay, Yeah, there's something about being hume alone and I
don't know how you do it, Like I don't like
having a house where there's multiple rooms, Like I have
to turn all the lights on when I'm alone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Yeah, I swear the dogs solve everything because I hear everything.
George hears everything. Yeah, she knows. She knows when people
are walking up, like up the street from half a
block away and starts barking. So that's like if anything
is just.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Like a nice warning call fucking safe, any zipper people
come in, George is gone. Yeah, going to regulate She
didn't on that one though. She was all, what I'm
supposed to be scared of this? You do this all
the time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Okay, Okay, here we go. Grandpa's haunting me and that's okay. Hi, Karen, Georgia, Stephen,
Kats and Dogs. I've been listening to MFM for a
while now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
It's brought a change to my life I could have
never expected.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Thanks for helping my socially awkward self make new friends
and gain some confidence in myself.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yay, that's what we're talking about, Brittany.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Hell yeah, okay, all right. When I was three years old,
my grandpa died.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
He'd been in an accident at work and lived in
a vegetative state for quite some time when I was born.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
That's where he was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Oh God, that family, that's tough. It was an incredibly
tough time for my family, but most of us made
it out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
A couple of years later, I was at my grandma's house,
a split level with the wreck room downstairs and the
kitchen right above it. While my grandma was in the kitchen,
she could hear me carrying on a conversation through the events.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
I love this, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
When I came up for a snack. She asked me
what I was doing down there talking to the man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
I replied, my grandma asked me to describe what you
look like, but may have regretted that decision as I
described my deceased grandfather to a tea.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I of course thought nothing of it and went about
my child business with your child briefcase, Yes, I am
no memory of this, but I also don't have memories
from before first grade. Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
A few things happened as I was growing up, but
nothing too notable. A couple of things moved or fell,
but it wasn't anything I was afraid of. Fast forward
to having my first living boyfriend. He would wake up
with scratches every now and then and made me nervous.
I remember my aunt having a picture of her and
her prom date on her dresser, and his face was
scratched out on the glass and on the picture.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Whoa, it was weird. One morning, I I remember waking
up to just one of my hanging plants swaying, but
not the other.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Oh I hate that. That's the worst. Oh, don't worry
about it. That's just a wind in here. Oh shit,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
There was an air circulation there as the window was
closed and the heater was off, so it didn't make
any sense. So I decided to try to make some contact.
I grabbed a voice recorder and started asking questions. Okay, wait,
here we go though these Though these questions. I. Through
these questions, I learned it was my grandpa and he
didn't like my boyfriend. He was right, we aren't together anymore,
and that was it. Those were the only two questions

(01:05:36):
that were answered.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Holy shit. I felt less scared.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Afterwards, and I didn't have anything of note, and I
didn't have anything of note to happen after that. I
do remember the night I went into labor with my child.
I felt an overwhelming sense of love and protection. I
hadn't even gone into labor, but I felt like he
was there and he knew. A couple of small things
have happened since then, but they're not as exciting. But

(01:06:01):
that's my ghost story, and I'm happy I was able
to share with everyone. Thank you for all you do,
and you don't have to fuck politeness if the ghost
is your grandpa who really just wants to love SSDG.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I'm brittany.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yes, I love how he like physically scratched up her
boyfriend and the ants photo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
It's almost like I can't really tell you anything. I can't.
If I tell you I don't like your boyfriend, You're
just gonna love him more, because that's how it always works, right.
But instead, I'm going to like horror movie creep you
out about your boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I'm gonna make the boyfriend break up with you, yes,
by scaring the ever loving shit out of him. It's
so good, great, Okay, give me a sign, grandpa, and
just scratches up the face of It's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Just like crazy white eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Yeah, child, He's like, I don't like your dog. Just
scratches up your grandpa. You don't get to chase my life, Grandpa.
You have all that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
You're so finicky Okay, ghost, unscary human in Silver Lake
Cafe Theater, your team hard kill and precious sweet kind
gentle Steven. Is that why this is ridiculous? Stephen? I
want to first let Karen know that I am from
Sacramento and I love every time she shits on Sacramento

(01:07:14):
because it truly is the armpit of California, and Bakersfield
is the butthole. Come on, everybody, there was someone that
just wrote on Twitter. They wrote something like, why won't
you come to Sacramento. It's like I have explicitly stated
how I feel about what's going.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
To Orange County, and despite me having fucking panic attacks,
there was an act of God.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yeah, and then and then having that amazing show.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
The best show Anaheim show was incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Oh it's so fun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Okay anyhow, yes, so we're not going to Sacramento anyways.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Anyway, but see absolutely shit, I know we should play
the fair grounds, dude, like the state their Yeah, or
we could do a live show in the how about
Arden Shopping Center and just like clear some park cars.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I want to do with Stay of Hair.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
I want to I want to be between the pie
eating contest and my favorite murder live and then like
the pig eating content.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
No, I don't know, is there a there's definitely a
pig eating contest. It's like, if you can eat a
live pig, you've been a ribbon, right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Yeah, you're a waiting pig. When you're waiting pig, if
you can eat your waiting pig, and then it's like,
well I don't really want that anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Oh wait, this is my favorite thing. Georgia texted me
at like four in the morning. You up because you
texted me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
I woke up at four, of course, and I looked
at my phone and you just texted the coffee was
a mistake, yes, at like midnight.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
And then I was like, you know, last time I
told you I was up all night. You were like,
text me, I'm up. Yes, I text you at four?

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Yeah, am.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I think I woke up like a half an hour later,
and it was so exciting because I just am, there's
You're never lonelier than when you're up in the middle
night by yourself. My god, and it was like I
had a message waiting where you're like, hey, you up,
what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
But the Pig thing, I said, I'm just laying here
listening to the Pig people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yes book, which everyone needs to fucking download immediately because
I fall asleep to it at night, even though.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
It's like the best book ever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
What's the title.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
It's called No Stone Unturned. It's about necro Search.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
I think I talked about it way in the beginning
of the podcast, but it's necro Search. Who is that
really awesome organization that finds clandestine graves there's all these
different kinds of people in it who are sciencey and otherwise,
and they're called the experts, and they're called the pig
people because they started burying pigs to see how decomposition

(01:09:40):
worked and how it made graves look, and how you
could see how long a body was buried based on
the foliage and based on the bugs and decomposition.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
So I listened to that to fall asleep, and I'm like,
why isn't this working. It's so crazy, so relaxing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I'm dreaming of pigs. No Stone on drug listened to it. Okay, sorry, no, no, no, okay,
So it's Sacramento, Sacramento. Plenty of shitting on Sacramento. Then. Anyways,
this is my ghost story. The day after I graduated
from college, I moved from northern California straight to Los Angeles.
Scary enough in and of itself. My boyfriend and I

(01:10:19):
literally walked the graduation stage and a few hours later
jumped into our view haul truck for the six hour drive.
I love that, I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
I did that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
It took about a couple of days after I graduated,
and my mom and I were like, goodbye Orange County.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Yeah, forever There's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Nothing I love more than if something ended. You just
fucked car and go there's no reason, no hang out
and like visit and it's just kind of like and
on to the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Yeah, life's short, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I was starry eyed as I exited on Vine Street
and thought how amazing the city looked it does. From
that weird little hill, I found a job quickly as
a barista in a small theater cap in hipster Silver Lake.
I thought it was a very cool gig. The customers
were semi famous comedians and people I recognized on TV.
I mean, there's nothing better. The cafe also hosted fun,

(01:11:11):
improv and comedy shows in their small black box theater.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
The lyric it's the lyric.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Oh okay, I'm like hell.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Bent on guessing what place this is. Yes, it's the
lyric Kurt brown Aller, our friend used to go in
there all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
The lyric Hyperion. Yes, yes, it's okay, sorry, okay, perfect,
we figured it out. Uh. The afternoons and night shows
were fun and lively. However, I felt a sense of
dread as all the customers and audience members left one
by one, and an aura of evil lurked in the
cafe at night.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
That place is fucking absolutely haunted. Really, I know it.
I've been in there. I've been in the thought in
the back room. It's terrifying. Well, she's gonna Why do
I even talking during this? I don't know. I know
You're fine, Addie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Weird shit, No, you're fine, Okay, Naively, I accepted to
close the cafe by myself every night, naively, And that's
one word for it. That meant a five foot ninety
pound female with severe anxiety had to close the cafe
eleven hare. Oh honey, don't do it like I need

(01:12:14):
this job, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
She said yes too, because then she's like, I don't
have to talk to anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yes, Well, I close, I'll just sweep.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
It'll be neating alone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Well. I was responsible for cleaning and locking up the
cafe and theater, which would take about forty five minutes.
The cafe was extremely quiet as I mopped the floors,
and suddenly I heard a roar of happy cheers, whistles,
and laughter that lasted approximately three seconds coming from the
audience at the theater room. Huh. I dropped them mop

(01:12:42):
and peeked into the control room upstairs to see if
there was still a show going on. I looked out
of the window from the booth and saw a dim
red light emitting from the back from the small black
box theater and a lone chair in the middle of
the stage. No. I felt like a sinister being was
watching up at me wait from down on the stage,

(01:13:03):
and I quickly locked up without cleaning the rest of
the cafe. A few days later, my coworker who had
the morning shift, texted me and confronted me that I
should put the pepper shakers away properly, that I and
I shouldn't put them on the floor again. Then he
sent me a picture of the three pepper shakers lined
up neatly on the floor in the middle of the cafe.

(01:13:24):
That was impossible since I would never have moved those
items on the floor, which is weird. I thought he
was pranking me. One time, I had to cover the
same coworkers morning shift, even though I was scheduled to
close that previous night. As I was closing for the night,
I made sure the salt and pepper shakers were in
the same exact spot on the kitchen table. The next day,

(01:13:45):
I opened the cafe at six am and the pepper
shakers were moved neatly aligned on the floor again in
the front of the cafe, even though I had made
sure to place them properly that night before. It freaked
me out so much that I just sat on the
outside patio waiting for the waiting for the morning rush
customers come in. Last and scariest event that led me

(01:14:08):
to quitting the job happened when I was closing the
cafe again. I had taken the trash out by using
the back entrance, but had not locked up the locked
up the door since it was one of the last
things to do when closing. I continued to clean and
count the till when I looked up and saw a
skinny and tall, homeless man press his face into the

(01:14:30):
glass of the entrance door. His eyes were round and dark,
and his squished face on the glass had this obtuse
and evil smile. He then darted away. As I remembered
I didn't lock the back door. I quickly rushed to
close the back gate and saw a tall, dark figure
rushing towards me through the gate screen. I then slammed

(01:14:51):
the door and locked it. Because of the front of
the cafe had these huge glass panes as walls. I
turned off all the lights in the cafe so that
he could not see and quickly hit in the corner
of the store. This was already scary enough, as I
knew ghosts were probably haunting the theater too. No, I
called my boyfriend to come pick me up a thirty
minute drive. Oh and I quit the job. Holy shit, Louck.

(01:15:15):
It's been three years since I moved and I have
a better job. I now have a higher standards when
finding jobs in Los Angeles. One make sure it has
a parking lot, and to have coworkers close with you.
Oh my god, you're tiny, Murderino, Tracy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Oh my god, I am going into lyric Hyperian tomorrow
and asking for ghost stories.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Yees immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Oh my god, that's so scary.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
It's so scary. And that idea that you have to
race the guy to the back door is fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Remember when you were twenty and you thought you were
fucking invincible and like you could close late at night
alone and leave the door open and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Would be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Well, you're just kind of like, uh, this is fine,
living my life. Yeah, Oh my god, Tracy, that was
a really good story.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
That was great I think maybe we should end on
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Yeah, Stephen, these were awesome jobs, Steven, those were really fun.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Yeah, they were so fun to read. Oh my god,
I love getting scared. I mean I have like a
like a side podcast of this. We could just keep
doing our hometowns. Is this for a little while?

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I know? Well yeah, yeah, yes, yes, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
I love that. Listen, here's what we're gonna say. Send
in your hometowns. Look and listen sending your hometowns. If
you have spooky scary stuff like that, we want to
hear it. Okay, I feel like not even just spooky scary, but.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Like thrilling, weird shit. Yes, you know what I mean,
Like racing a guy to the door is great, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I mean near missus come on great.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
And also the thing of like and then after that
she knew, like yeah you have to You can't just
let somebody schedule you because they're cheap at the place
and they only want to pay one person. Yeah, like
no dude, it's two people. Or like I can't close
at night.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
The SALTMN pepper shaker thing is this scariest thing to me.
That's nuts because like if he hadn't send anything to
her about it. She wouldn't have known what was going on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
That's so scary.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
It SIT's like in a weird position and moved and
like not supposed to be where it is, and it's
just like inconspicuously placed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
That's fucking terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
It's so scary.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
And we're back.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
So this episode was originally titled The Halloween Special, But if.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
We were naming it today based on the episode, maybe
we would call it My Two Blouses.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Oh, that would be a perfect one. Or cat on Prozac,
which would you be tip of the hat to old Mimi.
Or we'll name it podcast when Georgia talked about us
coming together and having this baby that we need podcast,
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
All right, well thanks for listening, guys, We appreciate it,
and let's go back to twenty seventeen to say goodbye.
Well that was thrilling and scary and excited.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah, Happy Halloween, everybody safe, insane.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Tina, Vince and I are going to be Simon and Garth.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Uncle, Well you told me that, but then I thought
you had a different one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
No, we're going to be Simon and Garth.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
I love that from that seventies one it's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Yeah, thanks for thanks guys. You guys are the best.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
You guys. Yes, so fun. And thank you for everybody
who sent those scary stories in. And I mean there's
a lot of writing taking place, you guys, really you
laid it all out for us. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Thank you, and stay sexy, don't get murdered.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Bye the Cookie Elvis, Elvis Daddy,
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