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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The reason I bring up sleep is because I think
it's the one habit that incredibly impacts every other habit.
When you get a good night's sleep, you're less likely
to eat foods that are bad for you, You're more likely
to have the energy to work out. You're going to
feel more motivated and focused at work. It's the domino effect.
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And what I've learned about sleep is that a lot
of us are not trying to build up our sleep
like we build up other parts of our life.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's a new year, and this year, instead of creating
exhausted lists to build a new you, what if you
made one small change with big impact. In this special
My Legacy episode, host Martin Luther King the Third, Andrea Waters, King,
Mark Kilberger, and Craig Kilberger dive into some of the
best small but powerful habits that create big results. You'll
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hear from Jashetti and Roddy Devlukia on how resetting your
taste buds can transform your health. Yabbi Bernstein on what
manifesting really looks like, spelling K Brown on shifting your
mindset to transform any challenge and kicking things off. Dave
Asprey drops three three or low cost life hacks for
more energy and better sleep.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It was a lot of skepticism when biohacking came as
an idea.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, I can ask what gave you the drive to
push through that skepticism to bring it to mainstream.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Well, I was pretty sick when I was young. I
had Asperger syndrome. It's a form of autism, a lot
of weird behavioral issues, fat at arthritis since I was fourteen.
And when I reversed all that with what was now biohacking,
my goal was I want five people to read my blog,
and if they don't go through the hell I went through,
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I have done my active service. I thought about making
it a nonprofit. I didn't collect a list, I didn't
do anything. I made a quarter million a year. I
had stock options at a publicly traded computer security company
cause I'm a computer hacker. I was a pretty good
one back then. So it was that I don't want
people to go through it. I went through, and then
after I recovered, like, I'm not going to stop, and
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I was you can make your brain work better than
you ever imagined, and you can reverse your age, and
you can I'm six percent body fat and I was
really obese with a forty six inch waist, and I
feel so good, and when my brain works, I'm nice
to other people. And you give me MSG and the
wrong foods and I feel like I'm doing exercise with
my middle finger muscles, like I'm a jerk, right, So
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being HYPOGLIBITCHI was a problem for me.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
So I just want to.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Teach people, and I write all my stuff. If I
was nineteen or twenty and I just would have known this,
it would have saved me a million dollars to recover,
and the other million and a half was for longevity.
I'm happy with that, But the suffering, all the times
I was just a jerk to people, it was not
because I was a bad person. It was because my
hardware wasn't working right.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
One of the things, though, that I often think about,
is that there is a certain privilege if you will
to longevity or health. What advice would you give a
single parent with four children that she wants to be
as healthy as she can be and she wants her
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children healthy. But we all know it's much more expensive
to eat at I'm not going to say the name
of places you know, versus getting a value mil at XPlay.
So what are things that she can incorporate for the
health of herself and her children.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The good news is that the most powerful bioacs are free.
In biohacking the definition and I thought really hard about this.
It's the art and science of changing the environment around
you and inside you so you have control. So first,
what are the goals if you're a mom with four kids?
I have two kids, and I know the goals always.
I just want to have enough energy, right, and I
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got to make sure I put food on the table
and all these things. So you look at it from
that lens, and whether you gain your loose ten pounds
probably isn't your biggest goal. Of course, we all want
to lose the weight, but that's not most important. It's like,
can I show up right now the way my family
needs me? So what are the affordable or free things?
One of them is sunlight. Go outside without glasses on
for twenty minutes in the morning and it actually charges
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your mitochondria and it sets you up to get better
sleep at night. Number two, turn off the lights at night,
get some dimmer switches, so sunlight in the morning and
darkness in the evening, and eating dinner a little bit earlier,
even if it's not the best dinner. And then you
look at, Okay, what are the food choices I can
make for the same amount of money that are better choices.
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And as an example, if you learn how to cook,
it doesn't have to be fancy French cooking. White rice
is really cheap and it's better for you than French fries.
Butter is not more expensive than many other foods on
a per calorie basis. It's cheaper than vegetables. So now
you're getting good fats instead of some canola oil. So
you didn't spend any more money, but you're more nourished.
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And your kids are not having these blood sugar swings
that makes them into little monsters, right, And they say,
how do I get more protein? And I used to
say eggs, but man, they've gone expensive lately. And if
you go to a place like a Costco where you
get a big old hunk of meat, it still can
be two dollars a pound, and you say, but that's
a lot of work to cook it. It's not boil
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some water, throw the rice in there, chop up the meat,
throw the meat in there, and add some spices. It's
called soup and it's highly nutritious, and you can do
that for less than you'll spend at Mickeydeas. I did
not have the privilege of health as a kid. I
was antibiotics every month for fifteen years. I was pretty sick.
And so when I regain my health, this is powerful
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and the whole idea of biomicking. We change our environments
so we become healthier. It's not about going out and
spending a bunch of money. It's about just no one
give us the manual for the body, and if you
just know what to do, you can have leverage. And
one thing I've done a couple of shows on this,
so I've mentioned on shows that just it just makes
me angry. So vitamin D is a longevity some one.
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It's five dollars a month. It's a very very cheap drug.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
They're very critical, particularly for black children. Well there you go,
they're more deficient traditionally, not.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Just for black children, for black parents. Yeah, these good
parents they take third kids to the hospital because they're crying,
and then the hospital says, well there's five broken bones,
which of you beat the child? And then because this
our child, we love our child, we didn't beat them,
and they say, well, you're gonna We're gonna take the
child to CPS unless one of you confesses. So then
the guys confess and they go to jail. And doctor
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Kennell from the Vitamin D Research Institute has testified dozens
of times to help get black men out of jail
for a nutrient deficiency that has nothing to do with abuse.
And the more we're indoors, the less sunshine we get.
I have very pale skin. I don't get enough sunshine.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
If my skin was.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Darker, I would need it, even a bigger does, right,
So teaching that this very cheap supplement makes for better brains,
less risk of diabetes, cancer, all the bad stuff, and
that the darker your skin and the more north you live,
and the more you endoors, the more you need. This
is cheaper than one meal at McDonald's. And just the
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knowledge is so critical? Is it just tell me what
to do with very little money or no money to
get results?
Speaker 6 (07:25):
You should have DMK to go the correct You should.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Have d have to have vitamin K because vitamin K
stops the tissues from getting all crusty.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
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Speaker 6 (07:46):
Now back to my legacy, Deby.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
When I think of your extraordinary work and especially in
teaching and coaching individuals how to manifest? Can you help
our listeners? I think when we hear the power of manifesting,
people are both inspired and also there's often a lot
of misunderstanding. Can you can you teach us the masterclass?
(08:12):
How do we do it? And what are some of
those misunderstandings that you can help clear up for us?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Well, I think that manifesting is very much in the
zeitgeist right now, and it's it's it's it's quite trendy
to sort of manifest. But but this this idea that
that this is this trend or this thing that we do,
is very off base because we manifesting is natural. We
manifest who we are, We manifest what we believe. The
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the ability that we all have, the innate ability that
we all have to to have far more magnitude and
impact than we even contemplate, and we can even contemplate
is is extraordinary. And I would I would I would
use I would use Martin Luther King Jr. As the
greatest example of manifestation in full form, where there's a
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movement happening within and a transformation happening within, and then
in the expression of that transformation, a movement outside begins
to cultivate. And so what is the manifestation of a movement.
It's an energetic frequency that ignites more energy. And so
those of us who you know, sort of think that
this is something that we have to like practice or
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tap into, it's quite wrong. It's actually releasing all the
blocks and the barriers to the presence of that magnitude
that is within all of us. So our work here partuogari,
those of us who are in this kind of dialogue
and those of us who are in the service oriented mission.
Anyone listening to this podcast right now raised their hand
in this lifetime and said, I'm showing up. I'm going
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to serve in some capacity. Those of us who are
in this conversation have a very big responsibility to elevate
our thoughts, our beliefs in our frequency, because that is
how we manifest, not just what we want and not
just some job or some relationship, but that's how we
manifest change, That's how we manifest change. Those of us,
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particularly those of us who have the privilege of living
in a Western culture and the privilege of being able
to have the Internet and have a podcast, and have
dinner at the table, and go to your kid's school
and pick them up. These are privileges. Those of us
who are living with these privileges at this time have
a major responsibility to use to release all the blocks
to the presence of that power inside, and to use
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it for good and to not use it as a
magic trick to go track that ferrari or that boyfriend
or whatever. All the nice things that we attract into
our life are always a reflection of the vibrational frequency
that we are. But the most important use of that
frequency is to be in the service of good.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And so.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
The secret to manifesting is to be in the energy
of joy. And in that elevated energy of joy, we
are guided. We're intuitively shown where to go, what to do,
how to show up, and we are directed. And so
the and the ease with which we make these decisions,
and the ease with I'm sure you guys have seen this,
with your with your nonprofit, that that invisible door is
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open for you, right, that that Oh wow, that thing
just happened. It feels effortless at times. Oh my god,
how did this movement created here? Where did this this
new service oriented thing happen? Why? Because you're in the
frequency of service, love and joy, period. So the work
of manifesting is just to do whatever it takes to
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get closer to that consciousness. And I remember, you know,
years ago I sat with Stepak and I said, you know,
I'm doing this spiritual practice, and I'm doing this spiritual practice,
and you know, where do I go? And he looked
at me, he goes, do whatever it takes get consciousness.
Just do whatever it takes to get closer to consciousness.
And and that's it, and and that and that is
that is the secret. So so you know, for the
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sake of like, you know, this new generation of spiritual
people that want to, you know, follow these manifesting trends. Great,
it's a trend. If that was what gets them in
the door and helps them start changing and healing, wonderful.
But most importantly true manifesting is being in your highest
frequency so that you can enjoy your life, be at
the highest elevated state, and then therefore show up and
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help others wake up at the same time period and
so OK.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
So the question then is how do we do that?
Because in order to do whatever it takes to be
closer to consciousness, as you eloquently said, we also need
to be at peace. You inspire millions of people to
live their best lives, but also to find and bring peace,
especially peace to inner chaos. Give me one or two
tips of how do you best do that?
Speaker 7 (12:37):
First and foremost is to notice that I'm not in peace.
We can't heal what we will not see. So to
look at your life and to have those moments like
I had on October second in two thousand and five,
where we look at our life and we say is
this it? It's got to be better than this. And
to be able to witness in those moments and say
I need help, I need a miracle. Choose to see
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this differently. That is a turning point, those moments of recognition,
I do not want this opens the door to something
new that's imperative. Uh and and and and then being
in a daily humble surrender to a inner wisdom or
a higher power of your own understanding, to humbly surrender
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daily and say show me what you got, show me
where to go, show me what to do. Because even
if even if that doesn't resonate with you, even if
you don't have a higher power of your own understanding,
you can ask your inner guidance system, your inner wisdom,
your higher self to tune in and ask what would
you have me do today? What miracles would you have
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me perform today? Because the inquiry that the knowing what
we don't want to know that we want something new,
is imperative. But the inquiry that's that, that gentle inquiry
daily of you know, what would you have me do?
Actually is a sending a signal to the universe. It's
opening up an invisible door for you to open up
your conscious awareness to maybe press play on a podcast
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like this, or to maybe watch that video of Tara
teaching you how to tune in softly, or to maybe
see that book that falls off the shelf and actually
read that book. So it's that subtle prayer daily of
what would you have me do that opens up your
consciousness to receive that good, orderly direction that God to
guide you towards the next right action. And then we
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have to take the lots of little right actions towards
that bigger healing. It's small right actions. It's not rip
off the band aid tomorrow. It's lots of little right actions.
And so if you stay in that humility of what
would you have me do, those little right actions are presented.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
To you, then you have to show up for.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Them when you are searching, when you are struggling, when
you are experiencing difficulty. What is one teaching of REVS
that you find is an island of strength for you.
Speaker 9 (15:02):
There's a lot. There's a few things that he says
that always sort of reverberate in my consciousness. I think
first and foremost that there is a divine conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
For my success.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
Right that, regardless of what you know external circumstances may
look like like we live in a friendly universe and
God is already said you want like that faith of
a mustard seed is saying that, like, I see within
you who you are already supposed to be, who you
are already made to be. And you may be in
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the process, you don't know where you are in that
process of becoming the fullest version of yourself.
Speaker 10 (15:42):
But God only relates to you as the fullest version
of yourself, right as a.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Complete whole manifestation, a divine you know, unique emanation of love,
beauty and divine intelligence and pupil There's so many words
that just sort of like these are all the reals
work just come like don't be quick to offense Like
that's another one that hits me up everyone to like
where I felt like, oh, should I be offended? And
I was like, no, you know what, you don't have
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to be offended, like there is I'm jumping around. Let
me go back to the Devince.
Speaker 10 (16:13):
That was good though, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I have to have you come preaching a god. You
can do it.
Speaker 10 (16:19):
You can do a testimony that conspiracy. Like right now,
I just I have a partial rupture of my achilles
tendon and I'm laid up so to speak, for a
moment and in a period of forced rest. But there's
also like in everything given thanks rejoicing always, there is
gratitude in this opportunity, and I get a chance to
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ask myself, what God would you have in store for
me right now? What's next? I can't wait to see
what's about to come my way. Right So, instead of
focusing on the things that would make me feel down
or sad or what have you and believing it goes
like this to a certain extent. But through that reminding, right,
I get a chance to sort of like move up
a little.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Bit and not go down out, so to speak. That
was a long leader to answer, and I gave you
more than than one. But that divine conspiracy from our
success is something that always come.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
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Speaker 3 (17:27):
Now back to my legacy, Jay.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
What would you say, because Roddy has obviously inspired so
many people with her books and her you know, cooking
and health, what would be one habit that she inspired?
One bad? If you would say habit that she inspired you.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
To change, Oh yeah, it would definitely be my sugar
into And I think this is a really important one
for everyone because I think people just don't understand the
dangers of sugar and how much of it we're consuming,
and especially in America, where I feel like so much
of our food is just naturally filled with it, and
how much of our diets have become infiltrated with packaged
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foods most of the things we're eating and not natural
whole foods. And so I would say my diet as
a whole has been completely reorganized and reshifted through radhi
End And it's actually a it's a reinvent it's a
redefining of taste buds. Like it's not even like now,
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it's not like, oh my gosh, I'm craving this and
I can't have it. It's almost like recognizing that our
taste buds are so badly programmed because of what we've
been conditioned to eat for so long, and so we
think we need it more than we do. So I
think I definitely still have a sweet tooth and I
love a chocolate Freights cake if I can get with it.
But definitely made me much healthier my diet, And yeah,
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that would easily be the biggest one. That would easily
be the biggest.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
One if someone wanted to change their overall wellness and energy,
what one or two things could they do?
Speaker 11 (19:04):
Honestly, I'd say, in this day and age, one of
the biggest things to change is I always think of
the eighty twenty rule, but in this case, I mean,
like eighty percent of the food not coming from a
packet and twenty percent of the food coming from a packet,
Like if you can make sure that the balance is
that way, because for a lot of people the balance
is actually the other way. It's eighty percent coming from
a packet and twenty percent coming from whole foods, and
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so I think that is causing a lot of the
rise and a lot of health issues. So that's one,
and I think the second thing would be, I've noticed
that the fall in the amount of people that want
to cook at home, and most of us are eating
foods from restaurants or takeaways, and actually we don't know
the oils that people are using, we don't know the ingredients.
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We are really unaware of the consciousness that people are
cooking it with. And so the second part to that
would be try and cook more meals at home, like
connect to your food, understand what's going into it, like
read the labels, start to educate yourself. You know, I
think we've put so much of our health into other
people's hands, and I think that it's really difficult nowadays
because there is way too much information online. Everybody's telling
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you you should or shouldn't eat this. But in our Veda,
I just learned how important it is to start to
listen to your body. Most of us are so disconnected
to our body that we don't even notice when we're
having digestive issues. We don't realize that when I'm eating this,
it's actually causing joint pain. When I'm eating this, it's
making me feel lethargic and not energized. Like the bottom
line is anything that we eat or drink, it should
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be creating vitality, energy, and likeness in the body, Like
you should feel like you can still get up and
do things as soon as you're eating foods and it's
making you lethargic, it's making you feel heavy, and it's
draining energy from you. That's a sign and the food
that you're eating may just not be right for you.
And so the third part of that would be education.
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Don't leave it to other people to tell you what
you should be doing for your body. Start to learn.
And the best way of doing that to start off
with is start listening when I'm eating this, How am
I feeling when I'm eating How is my digestion, How
is my mind? Am I feeling? Focused and clear or
am I feeling foggy? You know, there are such simple
questions we can ask ourselves to really start to tune
into the ins and outs of what we're eating and
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how it's affecting us. So I would say less packaged foods,
cooking more meals at home, and educating yourself, because your
health is in your hands. It shouldn't be in someone
else's hands.
Speaker 12 (21:31):
Jay, Over the years, you've interviewed some of the most
remarkable people in the world and gained their insight and
wisdom on issues about happiness and living a fulfilled life.
I like to ask you if there's one or two
things from one of your guests or multiple guests that
have really impacted your thinking in those areas.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
When I think about my guests, I definitely think about
a lot of the incredible experts we've had on sleep.
And the reason I bring up sleep is because I
think it's the one habit that incredibly impacts every other habit.
When you get a good night's sleep, you're less likely
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to eat foods that are bad for you, You're more
likely to have the energy to work out, You're going
to feel more motivated and focused at work, it's the
domino effect. And what I've learned about sleep is that
a lot of us are not trying to build up
our sleep like we build up other parts of our life.
We want to gain mastery at our careers, we want
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to get good at our relationships, but so much of
that is based on the quality of our sleep. If
you have slept well, you're less irritable, you're less agitated,
You're less likely to get angry or frustrated when something
doesn't go your way because you have that foundational calm.
And so for me, the things I've learned about sleep,
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the first is set a bedtime routine. Try and sleep
at the same time every single day, again at least
five days a week. Second is, try and sleep in
what's known as cave like darkness. A lot of us
today have flashing lights from TVs, from remote controls, from
our phones, whatever it may be. Try and sleep in
cave like darkness as best as you can. Try and
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sleep in a temperature that's sixty three to sixty eight
sixty nine fahrenheit. That's the recommended temperature, slightly cooler. We
actually sleep better when it's a little bit cooler than
what we think and the last one is have a
bedtime routine. You know, eat a few hours before you
get into before you're going to go to bed, stop
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looking at phone an hour before bed. Really create that
energy to be able to switch off. And so sleep
has been something I've focused on with a lot of
my amazing guests and the fulfillment and sleep can give
so much fulfillment and peace in life. I think it
would change so much in one day.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
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some of the best moments from twenty twenty five to
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