September 18, 2025 • 34 mins
Hey ya'll! Here's another classic mini episode for you this week. Langston and David answer a listener's email about white people not being able to follow directions. Also, we have some thoughts on Eminem.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Motherfucking mini episode, mini episode, motherfucking mini ever, so.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Doodoo Brown Do Do Brown. Greetings to little mamas and
gentiles alike. There it is, There it is. Ladies and gentlemen,
Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of
black conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Theories and we finally worked to prove the theories that
you motherfuckers have at home. It's a motherfucking mini.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh yeah, I like that. I like go there.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That was okay just living at that church.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Like kind of nasty church.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, nasty church. And if they would have offered that
to me, I'm might have stayed a little more religious
for longer.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know, I think the thing is it is it's
all nasty church. It's just coded language. You didn't know.
You didn't know because people have sex at church.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
They do. They do have sex in church. They talk
about sex a fair amount of church. They're desperate for
you to find a person to have sex with permanently.
There there is a nasty quality about church that that
sort of goes unrecognized.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I've always wished that I could tap into it too.
You have, you know, like you ever been in a
social situation where you're like, damn, I didn't even know
all these people were fucking. That's how it feels like
a church.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I have a homie who revealed to me he's a
he's a very cool person who be having like cool
last events and ship right. And he revealed to me that, uh,
that him and his lady be fucking like incorporating others
in the fucking and ship. And I was like, oh,
that that makes a lot more sense, because sometimes I
(01:58):
find myself feeling like a loser, because like, all the
friends that I can call are like other dweves and
men my age and shit, and now you know what
I mean. It's like game night isn't sexy anymore. It's
just like people I care about, and it's not. I think,
in my mind it could have been. It could have
been like a horny experience where I get to invite
(02:20):
I get to invite the most beautiful women I know
and we all play scrabble together and it's it's wet
and and the words are erotic and ship, you know
what I mean, Like it could have been a sexy time.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I don't know what you mean. I know what you mean.
In that this is the most this is the most
lengthton fantasy I've ever heard. You invite a bunch of
I assume dimes over that is, wait, scrabble, let's make
that game long. I scored a triple word.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oops, did not get a little you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Hey, we all got our things, We all got things.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Come on, man, we all have our fantasies, and that
wouldn't I think My point is to say you realize
how many people are sort of like living in an
erotic version of a life that you are not necessarily accessing.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It's like it sucks to because you're like, damn, how
did I Like you ever been to a comedy festival
and you're like, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
What, Oh, y'all all just fucked each other?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah okay, even I thought we were.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, I just thought we were coworkers.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah. I was singing flow right at karaoke. I didn't
know people were sending vibes like yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But then you leave the festival and you're like, thank
god I didn't do that. Oh my god, for real,
would have a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It would have been the worst stick that could have happened.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And now I gotta like help you when you come
to the city and figure out like places you can
go up.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
No, god, oh god, we gotta pretend like we actually
know each other.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I'm good. I don't want that nightmare. Let's just
let's just stay uh stay comrades and this ship.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, but if you don't, if you don't do comedy,
you can come over scrabble.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Anytime somebody play scrabble with my boy, I gotta I
just want to see it happen.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I got the good one too, that song. I got
the one it's like on the Lazy Susan Oh, because
I love scrabble. I'm a big Oh you can spend
your ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's it's funny that you
brought it up and I proceeded to chastise you.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I was gonna say, you really shamed me, hal as
if you weren't sitting there with the ultron of scrabbles.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, I think you know what hurts about it. It's
like sometimes people come over and I try to get scrabbled,
not even sexyes, just like I just try to get
scrabble going, and I've been shot down a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's the I would say of the board games it
is the hardest game to start, you know what I mean,
Like in a group to be like, y'all, we should
play scrabble. Everybody's immediate instinct is fuck, no, I don't
want to play scrabble, But they're wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, it's the best game if you just let it,
let it happen.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Man, I'm glad that we've bonded on this because, yeah,
I brought it up, like, oh, so you guys want
to and everybody people laughing at me like I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, it's like I feel low.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, you came to my house, don't.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
They'll make you feel real low, like you just like
you just shit yourself. And it's like, I, guys, I didn't.
I didn't do anything wrong here.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
No, I wanted us to have a fun time. Excuse me,
excuse me. I'm sorry. It's a football game, not over.
Are we not just sitting around talking about bullshit? Anyways?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Scrabble is a tough one to get started. Monopoly is
a tough one to get started, and it's the best fun.
It's such a fun fucking game if you just let
it be.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's so long, though, it is the only thing. Also,
how black is the monopoly that you play.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
We we in college and stated sort of like a
separate set of rules that I think advanced the monopoly
into a blacker space. So like, for example, the person
who and this is probably problematic at this point, but
I don't know, Nigga, we had fun, but the person
(06:38):
who was losing had to wear a quote unquote bum hat,
which meant that you had to you had to like
put your hat on but tilted as far to the
side as possible so that it was hanging off. And
anytime you like spoke out of turn or we're doing
something wrong, somebody richer could smack you in the face.
(07:01):
And whoever had the most money could put on stunnish
shades at the time. So you had to keep an
active account of like your money and your earning because
you had to change outfits that at various points and
you could get smacked in the face.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Man, that is great. It's like it's like you were
in a different world.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, now we are having a good time, man.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That yeah, that sounds that's a good way to do it,
because you gotta like, yeah, you gotta you gotta flex.
That's one of the best parts about my Monopoly, Yeah,
and stealing sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
My boy, he was like a I go to church
every week ass nigga in college previous to college. But
I think part of it, you know, that culture carries through.
So he wasn't going every week, but he sort of
like still kept all of his church clothes and like
things that sort of like identified with this part of
his former life. That said, he had like these big
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ass suit jackets in the house, so we would sometimes
put those on along with the stunnish shades when you
were winning, so you look like a cool Rick Ross
type business man.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You know what I mean. Yeah, that's a good time.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah we're having a blast.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You're glowing just at the memories.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And and nobody will let me do it anymore. And
that's the tragedy.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I'd say, Yeah, that's too bad your wife, and your
wife doesn't ever, I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You can't play two It's like that's surprisal too. You
don't want to play two person Monopoly. And we do
sometimes have friends over who come for like game nights
and ship but there we play different sort of like
games and it would be hard to sort of I
think introduce Monopoly given the more complex games were.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Already like power Grid or like sellers of and we
play settlers sometimes we play.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Honestly, the game we play the most is this game
called Villainous, which, uh, which it's gonna sound bad when
I tell you, I bet it is. You're gonna you're
gonna judge me hard for it. But I really love
Villainous And if there are any little mamas out there
that also love villains, yeah, give it a shout out.
But it's based on the villains of Disney characters. No,
(09:07):
and you you it's pretty complex it because it is
because you have to Each person has their own individual
board and like their own individual like objective to like
winning the game, and so you have to not only
be like working on your own ship, but you also
have to be tracking what someone else is doing to
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make sure that they're not about to win the game
and take everything from you.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Someone, get this jigaboo away from it. No, it sounds
very interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You clearly don't respect Villainous, and that's okay. Uh, that's
why we only play it with two pretty specific dudes.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Listen, man, I'm just I'm as far as board games,
I'm off I like the classics.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, we have game Night at the house where we
invite like all the homies and it's like a big
fun playing you know, it's we're playing fucking taboo and
like ooo is my ship? Yeah, we play the ones
that everybody is like okay with you saying out loud,
and then there's like two dudes that we call and
be like young things ting Pa villain.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
You got like the game night reserve, Like.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, yeah, trying to spend three hours pretending to be Jafar.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Oh man, that is beautiful though. I'm gonna check it out.
But I don't think that anybody that I have to
my house is they're not even going for scrabble. Like
I said, it's a whole issue.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, if you if you can't get them to play
a game they already understand, then uh, they're gonna have
a real tough time with this game that requires a
fair amount of like explanation and reading before you can
even like start the motherfucker, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It feels like you would be open to like a
Dungeons and Dragons type of situation.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't play over there and.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh that's your life.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Here's where I draw the line. Here's where I draw
the line, I don't want to do improv with the
fucking like you know what I mean, Like, I don't
want to pretend to be in this world where I
gotta like zip zap zop next or a motherfucker. If
the game allows me to be an elf with however
(11:33):
many hit points and I just get to move around
a board or like be active strategizing, I'm down. Yeah,
I'll fuck around with any game. But if I got
to sit there and go, oh lord, how will we
overcome the Great Dragon of Thurston word, It's like, no,
I'll nope. I pushed me down. Give me a swirly
(11:55):
because now I've embarrassed myself in front of my family.
I don't like this.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I'm looking at villainous Olivia dropped it in the chat.
It does look very complicated.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It is very complicated.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, it's like there's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Hell, there's a lot going on with it.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Oh no, in these pieces, who do you like to
be like Captain Hook?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
No, Captain Hook's not that fun. Who do I like we? Okay,
I'm this is gonna get pretty embarrassing too. I have
literally every expansion pack of the game, Like, there is
not a character that they've released that I do not
own in my home. And even worse, the dudes that
(12:41):
we play with they have the Marvel version of these games,
and they have expansion packs of their Marvel one and
so I got them all. Baby, I'm a real ash.
Catch them over here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh man, this is like, this is like a true hobby.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I wouldn't call it a hobby. I would say it's
just with some cool friends.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You said you bought all the expansion packs. That's that's
a hobby.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Look, you'll find this. You'll find this someday that that
keeping a marriage alive is a complicated game, and maybe
a game more complicated than Villainous itself, you know, And
and sometimes you just have to invest hard and things
that are going to keep you uh distracted for hours
(13:32):
at a time.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I feel like this could have creeped its way into
your life with or without marriage though.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Okay, uh, I don't really have a rebuttal for that.
I think I was just trying to escape goat a
little bit of of the problem, and you called my
bluff and touchet bitch. I don't know what do you
want from me?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
We can get to the email. We don't even have
to do all this. This is all you gave this
all on your own accord. We don't know you.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You really forced this out of me, and I'm I'm
pretty embarrassed. And I think we're like fifteen minutes into
this episode without having even addressed the single conspiracy. So
maybe let's just move on.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Okay, I just you know what, I was really embarrassed
about the ghost story last episode. So I'm glad that
we went tit for Tack. I got my look back.
All right, we got this email from you. Say what
(14:43):
did you say?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
His name clay his first name, no, Clayvon.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, that is no question on what kind of person this.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Is, Clayvin, you black motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If there is a Clavon who's white, he is poor or.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Like Dutch, come on, man, take them clogs off and
talk to us regularly.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, all right, this is from Clavon. We appreciate you.
Clavon greeting likes it says greeting, not greetings. But that's fun.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's okay. Clavin got a lot going on. Let Clavan
do his thing.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Our emails do tend to have crazy intros in general, right.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Mm hmmm, I'd say so.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The Kings, dude, Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
The Little Mama's talk to us pretty crazy. I think
part of it is that that we we're not kind
to them, and so they they retaliate, and then we
get sensitive about about how we go How dare you
speak to us this way? And I don't know that
we deserve much better with the way that we talk
to them.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, honestly, and it's a dynamic I'm willing to keep up,
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I wouldn't sacrifice it even Yeah, I really like you,
all right, greeting Langston's and Langston and David.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I bring to you a conspiracy theory today, inspired by
Beyonce's Renaissance World Tour, specifically the Mute Challenge. During her
performance of Energy, she sings look around everybody on mute
and pauses with her music and asks for the stadium
to stay silent for five seconds. To win the challenge,
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you must be quietest in the stadium in those five seconds.
Some people are saying the reason that some cities, specifically
predominantly white cities, fail the challenge, is that white people
are not used to following directions. Wow, yeah, he says,
me personally, I don't subscribe to this as it implies
black people are naturally more subservient. At the end of
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the day, it's a trend, and some people are not
chronically online compared to others. Would love to hear both
of your thoughts on this, love the podcast and the
new set. Kind regards Clavon.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
H, Well, you introduce some pretty complicated interpretations inside of
this thing. He is both acknowledging the possibility that white
people are incapable of following directions, which obviously is interesting
that piqued my interest certainly, But then the the flip
(17:19):
of that being that if black people are too good
at following directions, we are sort of like regressing back
to our slavish nature or some shit, And that's also complicated.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
So damn yeah, I want to tread lightly.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Okay, take your time, counselor you're not.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
There's no clot I mean there is running I see it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, these episodes are many, not forever.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So I think that a lot of times maybe white
folks aren't super like present, They're not like in the
moment as much. So that leads to maybe them not
even like they're just like we have to be. They
don't even realize that the five second challenge is like
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upon them, you know what I mean. It's like with
the dancing thing, where it's like they're just moving around.
They can't even because they're not paying attention to commit
to the structure of rhythm.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yet it's more about the joy and the energy of
the experience and less about any of the sort of
like technical rules inside of the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Right, that's why they're not good at rap.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, let me ask you this while I'm gonna make
a slight step to the tangent, if you will. Are
you one of those people that is like Eminem is bad?
Are you eminem is bad guy?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
By the way you phrase it, I feel like you're
an eminem is good guy. First of all, I think,
I think.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'll let you answer and then I'll tell you what
I think.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So this is funny. This just came up with somebody
else yesterday. This is so weird. I think the technical
skill of wrapping like rhyming words, I think he is good,
and like in double and triplicate or whatever else, I
think the content is not great. Hm hm.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And you you feel that way from beginning to end
of his career, I think so.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, I mean I think that. Like when I was twelve,
it was shocking that fat lady tried to swallow his
leg hoole like a fucking egg roll right right shocking.
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It was like, wa, I can't believe he's saying this stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh this guy's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, but as an adult, I don't find myself ever
going back to it. I really don't find myself being
like bars Like, it's so funny. This conversation came up
and we were talking about oh was it me and you?
So I was talking with somebody about that Renegade song
oh where everybody's like and even Niles was like, Eminem
(20:26):
murdered you on your ole.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He ajz his own shit.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
But when you go back and listen to it, did
he or did he just say some shit that sounds salacious?
Like did he just say take a bath with the
Catholics and Holy why? And everybody was like whoa he
was talking about Mormons and Catholics. This must be crazy.
And then Jay literally said on that song, do you
listen to music or do you just skim through it?
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And it's like, yeah, I think if you just skimmed
through it, you listen to that verse and you're like,
oh my god, Eminem's crazy. But if you listen for
Barns Jay, I think.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So, Okay, here's what I'll say. I don't fully disagree
with some of what you're saying. That I do think
that Eminem, certainly at his silliest shit, was just a
dude saying like it was imagination weirdo stuff more than
it was like anything that I'd be like bars or
wanting to revisit, Like you know, you go back and
(21:22):
listen to any of like that slim shady shit and
it's just like, all right, man, yeah, you're just you're
being wacky, yeah, more than you are like saying anything
of substance fun songs, really fun songs, but not necessarily
ones that I'm like eager to like go re experience.
I'm happy when they come back on because I go, oh, nostalgia,
thank you whatever, But I'm not like desperate to go
(21:46):
re download the albums so that I can hear them again.
That said, I do think that there is a there's
a little bit of an icky thing that happens with
new generation where they decide that like everything of old
is is whacker than the thing that came that is
currently here and I don't like that, where like it
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became like sort of like a generational agreement of everybody
being like, Eminem sucks and it's like, guys, he may
not be the god of hip hop that like he
was presented as when he was presented. And obviously there's
a weird racial complication happening inside of this that a
dude who's, to your point, not even the best rapper
(22:33):
is still the greatest selling rapper of up to a
point before Drake comes along. Whatever the fuck, and Drake
probably makes it complicated too. That said, he was good
at rap. He was fucking good at it and made
some really good songs and we all liked it to
my top three Yeah the way I am still whoa,
(22:56):
I love.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That emo bitch.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
No.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I remember thinking that song was like I remember sitting
it like on the football bus.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, I remember sitting in the back of my dad's
Honda Civic wearing a disc. Man, You're like this fucking
guy gets sick.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, look it out the window. Do you want some
Burger Kid?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah? I fucking loved that song.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I love stand Stand was he and that was innovative?
As fuck as like, uh, you know what I mean,
like speaking through this character and ship and then him
being himself in the song and it was all fucking
he did some cool ship.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Man, he said a lot of ship. He said a
lot of ship that I thought was crazy and still
think it's crazy at the time. Was that song he
said where he said I want the president dead, fucking
I said, presidents, I remember that. Shit scared, That's what
I'm saying, man.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And I think because we have like this generation of
like now edged lords and sort of like people who
can push buttons in a more specific way to the
way we live now, it's not shocking to be like
killed the president anymore. But in nineteen ninety eight, really
I was gripping my seat, like this is insane.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That's true. I think there's something to be said for
like pushing boundaries. Also, the like spot the position of
provocateur was not one that a lot of people courted
like it is now.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
No, because that makes it because I've always kind of
I always kind of find povoca tours boring, but like
I think that's because coming up that we've seen them
like increase triple, you know what I mean, there's so
many now, so it's like it's like cause it's like
I do think it's boring to be an edgeword.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think it's boring to just be like, here's the edge,
I have no rhyme or reason. I'll just step past it.
I don't think that's what.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I don't think either.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Weirdo bad Self, because you know he was a bad kid.
He was a bad bad kid.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, he was a dude on drugs from a trailer park,
truly saying some shit that he was like, Yo, this
is interesting to me. This is this is who the
fuck I am to some extent, and do I I
one hundred percent agree with you. Part of my issue
with Edge Lord is it's a person who is fascinated
(25:30):
with pushing the realm of comfort for everybody around them.
I think that motherfucker was just talking.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, I think Eminem was just talking. I think most provocateurs,
I think it's very it's formu Lake, it's a formula.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I think they're they're fascinating to your point, maybe
they're more fascinated with the reaction than they are with
the actual like pushing of boundaries, And in that way,
it's just like Okay, well I've already covered the word cunt,
so now how and I pushed that into something that's
gonna make you more uncomfortable or further unsettled in all
(26:07):
of this shit.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I mean all that being said, Man, I'm really
not going back and listening to Eminem like that.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, ignore am I let me.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I know, Eminem acolyte.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I'm not trying to get motherfuckers go back and listen
that nigga was spitting. That's not the vibes over here.
But I am saying it's corny to me that a
bunch of people are pretending like Eminem just couldn't wrap
it all.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, he can rap, for sure, and he cand freestyle it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Nobody can anymore, you know, nobody even tries a freestyle.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah. So it's like, yeah, he had the you know,
you know he was uh. I think, yeah, you put
his jersey in the rafters, put.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
His jersey in the rafters and then put a couple
of asterisks on it because he made little dicky and
fucking you know.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Did he make a little Dickie? I feel like I.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Think he made him in concept right like he.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I don't think so, because like I don't think. So Okay,
now we're just this is just what we're talking about
it this point.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, I guess, so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I don't think Little Dicky's in the same vein as
Eminem at all. I think that Little Dicky, I don't know.
I don't feel like he was ever immersed in the culture,
nor do I feel like I get the feeling that
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he has a huge amount of respect for the culture,
and that I imagine him being a post Malone type
where if he could, he would step away and do
something else immediately. But that's but that's not how Eminem is.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
No, I don't think Eminem has any interest in stepping
away from hip hop culture. But I also think that
I would argue that it's again a generational thing, right,
that like hip hop has become pop culture in a
way that it was not when Eminem first started. He
was sort of, in some ways one of the liaisons
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to making it the biggest form of music, and so
in that way, there was nothing to step away from
it from, which is why he spent so much of
his career shitting on Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera and
en Sync and all these other guys. Because the equivalent,
the white equivalent to him was literally the most offensive
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thing that could exist in hip hop.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Alternatively, a little Dicky can step away and still quote
unquote identify with popular music and popular culture, and so
he doesn't feel any obligation to learn about black people
in a genuine way or feel connected to the roots
of hip hop because it's like, Nah, this is just
pop music, bro, I mean pop.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I feel like you just learned how to rap. Yeah, exactly,
you know what I mean? And that's wat. I think
it's pretty whack. But I just don't know that it's
you know what I mean. I don't know that the
solution is rooted in being like, oh, he doesn't give
a fucking this.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Dude did as much as it is. Like now he
figured out where his bag lives and that's that.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And honestly, to all you guys listening, that's all we're
trying to do. Wait till we figure out how to
make a million dollars off of this. I'm selling the
fuck out.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I'm not saying loyal to none of y'all.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Come on, who are you? I don't know nobody. I
have a plane.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Now we make a million dollars. Joe Rogan's coming on immediately.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'm like, nah, this dude got some good ideas.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, this smart guy, and he loves black people.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
That's why he was saying that word so much.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Well, like, did I think we've done it?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I don't know. We didn't even address our boy Claven
in the slightest, let's tidbit of Clayvon. I think to
the question, and I'm struggling to even remember what the
question was at this point. White people follows, I do think,
and maybe this we can wrap this all into the
eminem of it all, right, Yes, I think there's a
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way that this little dicky and eminem and all of
this can be folded into it. I do think that
white people have had the benefit of living completely independent
of laws and rules and all kinds of things that
is hard to untie from their own self identity. Right that, like,
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literally this country was built by a bunch of dudes
agreeing not to follow directions, and so it is not
possible for them not They refer to these motherfuckers as
their forefathers and wrote a constitution based off of their
line of thinking, and so it's hard for them to
not see themselves as people sort of championing that at
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all times, whereas black people, I think, unfortunately, have been
forced into a life where we are at least constantly
aware of the rules that we are choosing to break
when we're breaking them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, I think that. I like that. Actually I had
no notes.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Hell, yeah, that said. Do I think white people are
capable of following the rules? I do. I think that's
why they're so vocal frankly when rules are being broken
or laws are not being held up to the way
that they expect. But I don't think that they always
respect the rules that are being instituted by people who
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they consider to be less than and sometimes even Beyonce
can be less than two white people.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, that's reasonable. I like that. Yeah, And you know,
eminem sucks. No, that was very grown up. That was
very all, very good.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, So, Clayvine, I hope that that answers your question.
If there are white people yelling at the Renaissance tour,
just know that it is uh, it's it's inside them
and and I don't know that they're incapable, but they
certainly have a real hard time untying that from who they.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Are, yeah, did you you went? Didn't you?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I did? I was, yeah, it was great. I didn't.
I'll be honest, for the uh everybody on the moment,
I didn't say shit.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I didn't say shit.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But also I also didn't I didn't realize it was
happening till I was like halfway in it. Then I
was like, oh, okay, cool. I'm glad I wouldn't singing
along because I would have just kept on singing.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I get it. It's overwhelming at a concert. There's
a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
There's a lot going on. I was, you know, I
wasn't paying attention, and then everybody was on mute and
I was like cool, cool me.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Too, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You want to tell the people where they can find
you and what cool shit you have going on?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
A cool guy Jokes eighty seven on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
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Speaker 1 (34:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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gentiles alike. There it is, There it is. Ladies and gentlemen,
Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of
black conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Theories and we finally worked to prove the theories that
you motherfuckers have at home. It's a motherfucking mini.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh yeah, I like that. I like go there.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That was okay just living at that church.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Like kind of nasty church.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, nasty church. And if they would have offered that
to me, I'm might have stayed a little more religious
for longer.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know, I think the thing is it is it's
all nasty church. It's just coded language. You didn't know.
You didn't know because people have sex at church.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
They do. They do have sex in church. They talk
about sex a fair amount of church. They're desperate for
you to find a person to have sex with permanently.
There there is a nasty quality about church that that
sort of goes unrecognized.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I've always wished that I could tap into it too.
You have, you know, like you ever been in a
social situation where you're like, damn, I didn't even know
all these people were fucking. That's how it feels like
a church.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I have a homie who revealed to me he's a
he's a very cool person who be having like cool
last events and ship right. And he revealed to me that, uh,
that him and his lady be fucking like incorporating others
in the fucking and ship. And I was like, oh,
that that makes a lot more sense, because sometimes I
(01:58):
find myself feeling like a loser, because like, all the
friends that I can call are like other dweves and
men my age and shit, and now you know what
I mean. It's like game night isn't sexy anymore. It's
just like people I care about, and it's not. I think,
in my mind it could have been. It could have
been like a horny experience where I get to invite
(02:20):
I get to invite the most beautiful women I know
and we all play scrabble together and it's it's wet
and and the words are erotic and ship, you know
what I mean, Like it could have been a sexy time.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I don't know what you mean. I know what you mean.
In that this is the most this is the most
lengthton fantasy I've ever heard. You invite a bunch of
I assume dimes over that is, wait, scrabble, let's make
that game long. I scored a triple word.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oops, did not get a little you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Hey, we all got our things, We all got things.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Come on, man, we all have our fantasies, and that
wouldn't I think My point is to say you realize
how many people are sort of like living in an
erotic version of a life that you are not necessarily accessing.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It's like it sucks to because you're like, damn, how
did I Like you ever been to a comedy festival
and you're like, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
What, Oh, y'all all just fucked each other?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah okay, even I thought we were.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, I just thought we were coworkers.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah. I was singing flow right at karaoke. I didn't
know people were sending vibes like yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But then you leave the festival and you're like, thank
god I didn't do that. Oh my god, for real,
would have a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It would have been the worst stick that could have happened.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And now I gotta like help you when you come
to the city and figure out like places you can
go up.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
No, god, oh god, we gotta pretend like we actually
know each other.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I'm good. I don't want that nightmare. Let's just
let's just stay uh stay comrades and this ship.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, but if you don't, if you don't do comedy,
you can come over scrabble.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Anytime somebody play scrabble with my boy, I gotta I
just want to see it happen.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I got the good one too, that song. I got
the one it's like on the Lazy Susan Oh, because
I love scrabble. I'm a big Oh you can spend
your ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's it's funny that you
brought it up and I proceeded to chastise you.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I was gonna say, you really shamed me, hal as
if you weren't sitting there with the ultron of scrabbles.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, I think you know what hurts about it. It's
like sometimes people come over and I try to get scrabbled,
not even sexyes, just like I just try to get
scrabble going, and I've been shot down a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's the I would say of the board games it
is the hardest game to start, you know what I mean,
Like in a group to be like, y'all, we should
play scrabble. Everybody's immediate instinct is fuck, no, I don't
want to play scrabble, But they're wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, it's the best game if you just let it,
let it happen.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Man, I'm glad that we've bonded on this because, yeah,
I brought it up, like, oh, so you guys want
to and everybody people laughing at me like I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, it's like I feel low.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, you came to my house, don't.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
They'll make you feel real low, like you just like
you just shit yourself. And it's like, I, guys, I didn't.
I didn't do anything wrong here.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
No, I wanted us to have a fun time. Excuse me,
excuse me. I'm sorry. It's a football game, not over.
Are we not just sitting around talking about bullshit? Anyways?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Scrabble is a tough one to get started. Monopoly is
a tough one to get started, and it's the best fun.
It's such a fun fucking game if you just let
it be.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's so long, though, it is the only thing. Also,
how black is the monopoly that you play.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
We we in college and stated sort of like a
separate set of rules that I think advanced the monopoly
into a blacker space. So like, for example, the person
who and this is probably problematic at this point, but
I don't know, Nigga, we had fun, but the person
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who was losing had to wear a quote unquote bum hat,
which meant that you had to you had to like
put your hat on but tilted as far to the
side as possible so that it was hanging off. And
anytime you like spoke out of turn or we're doing
something wrong, somebody richer could smack you in the face.
(07:01):
And whoever had the most money could put on stunnish
shades at the time. So you had to keep an
active account of like your money and your earning because
you had to change outfits that at various points and
you could get smacked in the face.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Man, that is great. It's like it's like you were
in a different world.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, now we are having a good time, man.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That yeah, that sounds that's a good way to do it,
because you gotta like, yeah, you gotta you gotta flex.
That's one of the best parts about my Monopoly, Yeah,
and stealing sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
My boy, he was like a I go to church
every week ass nigga in college previous to college. But
I think part of it, you know, that culture carries through.
So he wasn't going every week, but he sort of
like still kept all of his church clothes and like
things that sort of like identified with this part of
his former life. That said, he had like these big
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ass suit jackets in the house, so we would sometimes
put those on along with the stunnish shades when you
were winning, so you look like a cool Rick Ross
type business man.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You know what I mean. Yeah, that's a good time.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah we're having a blast.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You're glowing just at the memories.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And and nobody will let me do it anymore. And
that's the tragedy.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I'd say, Yeah, that's too bad your wife, and your
wife doesn't ever, I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You can't play two It's like that's surprisal too. You
don't want to play two person Monopoly. And we do
sometimes have friends over who come for like game nights
and ship but there we play different sort of like
games and it would be hard to sort of I
think introduce Monopoly given the more complex games were.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Already like power Grid or like sellers of and we
play settlers sometimes we play.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Honestly, the game we play the most is this game
called Villainous, which, uh, which it's gonna sound bad when
I tell you, I bet it is. You're gonna you're
gonna judge me hard for it. But I really love
Villainous And if there are any little mamas out there
that also love villains, yeah, give it a shout out.
But it's based on the villains of Disney characters. No,
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and you you it's pretty complex it because it is
because you have to Each person has their own individual
board and like their own individual like objective to like
winning the game, and so you have to not only
be like working on your own ship, but you also
have to be tracking what someone else is doing to
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make sure that they're not about to win the game
and take everything from you.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Someone, get this jigaboo away from it. No, it sounds
very interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You clearly don't respect Villainous, and that's okay. Uh, that's
why we only play it with two pretty specific dudes.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Listen, man, I'm just I'm as far as board games,
I'm off I like the classics.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, we have game Night at the house where we
invite like all the homies and it's like a big
fun playing you know, it's we're playing fucking taboo and
like ooo is my ship? Yeah, we play the ones
that everybody is like okay with you saying out loud,
and then there's like two dudes that we call and
be like young things ting Pa villain.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
You got like the game night reserve, Like.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, yeah, trying to spend three hours pretending to be Jafar.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Oh man, that is beautiful though. I'm gonna check it out.
But I don't think that anybody that I have to
my house is they're not even going for scrabble. Like
I said, it's a whole issue.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, if you if you can't get them to play
a game they already understand, then uh, they're gonna have
a real tough time with this game that requires a
fair amount of like explanation and reading before you can
even like start the motherfucker, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It feels like you would be open to like a
Dungeons and Dragons type of situation.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't play over there and.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh that's your life.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Here's where I draw the line. Here's where I draw
the line, I don't want to do improv with the
fucking like you know what I mean, Like, I don't
want to pretend to be in this world where I
gotta like zip zap zop next or a motherfucker. If
the game allows me to be an elf with however
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many hit points and I just get to move around
a board or like be active strategizing, I'm down. Yeah,
I'll fuck around with any game. But if I got
to sit there and go, oh lord, how will we
overcome the Great Dragon of Thurston word, It's like, no,
I'll nope. I pushed me down. Give me a swirly
(11:55):
because now I've embarrassed myself in front of my family.
I don't like this.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I'm looking at villainous Olivia dropped it in the chat.
It does look very complicated.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It is very complicated.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, it's like there's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Hell, there's a lot going on with it.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Oh no, in these pieces, who do you like to
be like Captain Hook?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
No, Captain Hook's not that fun. Who do I like we? Okay,
I'm this is gonna get pretty embarrassing too. I have
literally every expansion pack of the game, Like, there is
not a character that they've released that I do not
own in my home. And even worse, the dudes that
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we play with they have the Marvel version of these games,
and they have expansion packs of their Marvel one and
so I got them all. Baby, I'm a real ash.
Catch them over here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh man, this is like, this is like a true hobby.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I wouldn't call it a hobby. I would say it's
just with some cool friends.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
You said you bought all the expansion packs. That's that's
a hobby.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Look, you'll find this. You'll find this someday that that
keeping a marriage alive is a complicated game, and maybe
a game more complicated than Villainous itself, you know, And
and sometimes you just have to invest hard and things
that are going to keep you uh distracted for hours
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at a time.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I feel like this could have creeped its way into
your life with or without marriage though.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Okay, uh, I don't really have a rebuttal for that.
I think I was just trying to escape goat a
little bit of of the problem, and you called my
bluff and touchet bitch. I don't know what do you
want from me?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
We can get to the email. We don't even have
to do all this. This is all you gave this
all on your own accord. We don't know you.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You really forced this out of me, and I'm I'm
pretty embarrassed. And I think we're like fifteen minutes into
this episode without having even addressed the single conspiracy. So
maybe let's just move on.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Okay, I just you know what, I was really embarrassed
about the ghost story last episode. So I'm glad that
we went tit for Tack. I got my look back.
All right, we got this email from you. Say what
(14:43):
did you say?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
His name clay his first name, no, Clayvon.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, that is no question on what kind of person this.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Is, Clayvin, you black motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If there is a Clavon who's white, he is poor or.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Like Dutch, come on, man, take them clogs off and
talk to us regularly.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, all right, this is from Clavon. We appreciate you.
Clavon greeting likes it says greeting, not greetings. But that's fun.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's okay. Clavin got a lot going on. Let Clavan
do his thing.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Our emails do tend to have crazy intros in general, right.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Mm hmmm, I'd say so.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The Kings, dude, Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
The Little Mama's talk to us pretty crazy. I think
part of it is that that we we're not kind
to them, and so they they retaliate, and then we
get sensitive about about how we go How dare you
speak to us this way? And I don't know that
we deserve much better with the way that we talk
to them.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, honestly, and it's a dynamic I'm willing to keep up,
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I wouldn't sacrifice it even Yeah, I really like you,
all right, greeting Langston's and Langston and David.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I bring to you a conspiracy theory today, inspired by
Beyonce's Renaissance World Tour, specifically the Mute Challenge. During her
performance of Energy, she sings look around everybody on mute
and pauses with her music and asks for the stadium
to stay silent for five seconds. To win the challenge,
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you must be quietest in the stadium in those five seconds.
Some people are saying the reason that some cities, specifically
predominantly white cities, fail the challenge, is that white people
are not used to following directions. Wow, yeah, he says,
me personally, I don't subscribe to this as it implies
black people are naturally more subservient. At the end of
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the day, it's a trend, and some people are not
chronically online compared to others. Would love to hear both
of your thoughts on this, love the podcast and the
new set. Kind regards Clavon.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
H, Well, you introduce some pretty complicated interpretations inside of
this thing. He is both acknowledging the possibility that white
people are incapable of following directions, which obviously is interesting
that piqued my interest certainly, But then the the flip
(17:19):
of that being that if black people are too good
at following directions, we are sort of like regressing back
to our slavish nature or some shit, And that's also complicated.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
So damn yeah, I want to tread lightly.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Okay, take your time, counselor you're not.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
There's no clot I mean there is running I see it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, these episodes are many, not forever.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So I think that a lot of times maybe white
folks aren't super like present, They're not like in the
moment as much. So that leads to maybe them not
even like they're just like we have to be. They
don't even realize that the five second challenge is like
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upon them, you know what I mean. It's like with
the dancing thing, where it's like they're just moving around.
They can't even because they're not paying attention to commit
to the structure of rhythm.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yet it's more about the joy and the energy of
the experience and less about any of the sort of
like technical rules inside of the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Right, that's why they're not good at rap.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, let me ask you this while I'm gonna make
a slight step to the tangent, if you will. Are
you one of those people that is like Eminem is bad?
Are you eminem is bad guy?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
By the way you phrase it, I feel like you're
an eminem is good guy. First of all, I think,
I think.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'll let you answer and then I'll tell you what
I think.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So this is funny. This just came up with somebody
else yesterday. This is so weird. I think the technical
skill of wrapping like rhyming words, I think he is good,
and like in double and triplicate or whatever else, I
think the content is not great. Hm hm.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And you you feel that way from beginning to end
of his career, I think so.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, I mean I think that. Like when I was twelve,
it was shocking that fat lady tried to swallow his
leg hoole like a fucking egg roll right right shocking.
(19:58):
It was like, wa, I can't believe he's saying this stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Oh this guy's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, but as an adult, I don't find myself ever
going back to it. I really don't find myself being
like bars Like, it's so funny. This conversation came up
and we were talking about oh was it me and you?
So I was talking with somebody about that Renegade song
oh where everybody's like and even Niles was like, Eminem
(20:26):
murdered you on your ole.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He ajz his own shit.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
But when you go back and listen to it, did
he or did he just say some shit that sounds salacious?
Like did he just say take a bath with the
Catholics and Holy why? And everybody was like whoa he
was talking about Mormons and Catholics. This must be crazy.
And then Jay literally said on that song, do you
listen to music or do you just skim through it?
(20:50):
And it's like, yeah, I think if you just skimmed
through it, you listen to that verse and you're like,
oh my god, Eminem's crazy. But if you listen for
Barns Jay, I think.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So, Okay, here's what I'll say. I don't fully disagree
with some of what you're saying. That I do think
that Eminem, certainly at his silliest shit, was just a
dude saying like it was imagination weirdo stuff more than
it was like anything that I'd be like bars or
wanting to revisit, Like you know, you go back and
(21:22):
listen to any of like that slim shady shit and
it's just like, all right, man, yeah, you're just you're
being wacky, yeah, more than you are like saying anything
of substance fun songs, really fun songs, but not necessarily
ones that I'm like eager to like go re experience.
I'm happy when they come back on because I go, oh, nostalgia,
thank you whatever, But I'm not like desperate to go
(21:46):
re download the albums so that I can hear them again.
That said, I do think that there is a there's
a little bit of an icky thing that happens with
new generation where they decide that like everything of old
is is whacker than the thing that came that is
currently here and I don't like that, where like it
(22:10):
became like sort of like a generational agreement of everybody
being like, Eminem sucks and it's like, guys, he may
not be the god of hip hop that like he
was presented as when he was presented. And obviously there's
a weird racial complication happening inside of this that a
dude who's, to your point, not even the best rapper
(22:33):
is still the greatest selling rapper of up to a
point before Drake comes along. Whatever the fuck, and Drake
probably makes it complicated too. That said, he was good
at rap. He was fucking good at it and made
some really good songs and we all liked it to
my top three Yeah the way I am still whoa,
(22:56):
I love.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That emo bitch.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
No.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I remember thinking that song was like I remember sitting
it like on the football bus.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, I remember sitting in the back of my dad's
Honda Civic wearing a disc. Man, You're like this fucking
guy gets sick.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, look it out the window. Do you want some
Burger Kid?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah? I fucking loved that song.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I love stand Stand was he and that was innovative?
As fuck as like, uh, you know what I mean,
like speaking through this character and ship and then him
being himself in the song and it was all fucking
he did some cool ship.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Man, he said a lot of ship. He said a
lot of ship that I thought was crazy and still
think it's crazy at the time. Was that song he
said where he said I want the president dead, fucking
I said, presidents, I remember that. Shit scared, That's what
I'm saying, man.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And I think because we have like this generation of
like now edged lords and sort of like people who
can push buttons in a more specific way to the
way we live now, it's not shocking to be like
killed the president anymore. But in nineteen ninety eight, really
I was gripping my seat, like this is insane.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That's true. I think there's something to be said for
like pushing boundaries. Also, the like spot the position of
provocateur was not one that a lot of people courted
like it is now.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
No, because that makes it because I've always kind of
I always kind of find povoca tours boring, but like
I think that's because coming up that we've seen them
like increase triple, you know what I mean, there's so
many now, so it's like it's like cause it's like
I do think it's boring to be an edgeword.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think it's boring to just be like, here's the edge,
I have no rhyme or reason. I'll just step past it.
I don't think that's what.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I don't think either.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Weirdo bad Self, because you know he was a bad kid.
He was a bad bad kid.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, he was a dude on drugs from a trailer park,
truly saying some shit that he was like, Yo, this
is interesting to me. This is this is who the
fuck I am to some extent, and do I I
one hundred percent agree with you. Part of my issue
with Edge Lord is it's a person who is fascinated
(25:30):
with pushing the realm of comfort for everybody around them.
I think that motherfucker was just talking.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, I think Eminem was just talking. I think most provocateurs,
I think it's very it's formu Lake, it's a formula.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I think they're they're fascinating to your point, maybe
they're more fascinated with the reaction than they are with
the actual like pushing of boundaries, And in that way,
it's just like Okay, well I've already covered the word cunt,
so now how and I pushed that into something that's
gonna make you more uncomfortable or further unsettled in all
(26:07):
of this shit.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, I mean all that being said, Man, I'm really
not going back and listening to Eminem like that.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, ignore am I let me.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I know, Eminem acolyte.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I'm not trying to get motherfuckers go back and listen
that nigga was spitting. That's not the vibes over here.
But I am saying it's corny to me that a
bunch of people are pretending like Eminem just couldn't wrap
it all.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, he can rap, for sure, and he cand freestyle it.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Nobody can anymore, you know, nobody even tries a freestyle.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah. So it's like, yeah, he had the you know,
you know he was uh. I think, yeah, you put
his jersey in the rafters, put.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
His jersey in the rafters and then put a couple
of asterisks on it because he made little dicky and
fucking you know.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Did he make a little Dickie? I feel like I.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Think he made him in concept right like he.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I don't think so, because like I don't think. So Okay,
now we're just this is just what we're talking about
it this point.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, I guess, so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I don't think Little Dicky's in the same vein as
Eminem at all. I think that Little Dicky, I don't know.
I don't feel like he was ever immersed in the culture,
nor do I feel like I get the feeling that
(27:25):
he has a huge amount of respect for the culture,
and that I imagine him being a post Malone type
where if he could, he would step away and do
something else immediately. But that's but that's not how Eminem is.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
No, I don't think Eminem has any interest in stepping
away from hip hop culture. But I also think that
I would argue that it's again a generational thing, right,
that like hip hop has become pop culture in a
way that it was not when Eminem first started. He
was sort of, in some ways one of the liaisons
(27:59):
to making it the biggest form of music, and so
in that way, there was nothing to step away from
it from, which is why he spent so much of
his career shitting on Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera and
en Sync and all these other guys. Because the equivalent,
the white equivalent to him was literally the most offensive
(28:20):
thing that could exist in hip hop.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Alternatively, a little Dicky can step away and still quote
unquote identify with popular music and popular culture, and so
he doesn't feel any obligation to learn about black people
in a genuine way or feel connected to the roots
of hip hop because it's like, Nah, this is just
pop music, bro, I mean pop.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
I feel like you just learned how to rap. Yeah, exactly,
you know what I mean? And that's wat. I think
it's pretty whack. But I just don't know that it's
you know what I mean. I don't know that the
solution is rooted in being like, oh, he doesn't give
a fucking this.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Dude did as much as it is. Like now he
figured out where his bag lives and that's that.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And honestly, to all you guys listening, that's all we're
trying to do. Wait till we figure out how to
make a million dollars off of this. I'm selling the
fuck out.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I'm not saying loyal to none of y'all.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Come on, who are you? I don't know nobody. I
have a plane.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Now we make a million dollars. Joe Rogan's coming on immediately.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'm like, nah, this dude got some good ideas.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, this smart guy, and he loves black people.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
That's why he was saying that word so much.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Well, like, did I think we've done it?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I don't know. We didn't even address our boy Claven
in the slightest, let's tidbit of Clayvon. I think to
the question, and I'm struggling to even remember what the
question was at this point. White people follows, I do think,
and maybe this we can wrap this all into the
eminem of it all, right, Yes, I think there's a
(30:17):
way that this little dicky and eminem and all of
this can be folded into it. I do think that
white people have had the benefit of living completely independent
of laws and rules and all kinds of things that
is hard to untie from their own self identity. Right that, like,
(30:39):
literally this country was built by a bunch of dudes
agreeing not to follow directions, and so it is not
possible for them not They refer to these motherfuckers as
their forefathers and wrote a constitution based off of their
line of thinking, and so it's hard for them to
not see themselves as people sort of championing that at
(31:04):
all times, whereas black people, I think, unfortunately, have been
forced into a life where we are at least constantly
aware of the rules that we are choosing to break
when we're breaking them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, I think that. I like that. Actually I had
no notes.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Hell, yeah, that said. Do I think white people are
capable of following the rules? I do. I think that's
why they're so vocal frankly when rules are being broken
or laws are not being held up to the way
that they expect. But I don't think that they always
respect the rules that are being instituted by people who
(31:45):
they consider to be less than and sometimes even Beyonce
can be less than two white people.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, that's reasonable. I like that. Yeah, And you know,
eminem sucks. No, that was very grown up. That was
very all, very good.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, So, Clayvine, I hope that that answers your question.
If there are white people yelling at the Renaissance tour,
just know that it is uh, it's it's inside them
and and I don't know that they're incapable, but they
certainly have a real hard time untying that from who they.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Are, yeah, did you you went? Didn't you?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I did? I was, yeah, it was great. I didn't.
I'll be honest, for the uh everybody on the moment,
I didn't say shit.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I didn't say shit.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But also I also didn't I didn't realize it was
happening till I was like halfway in it. Then I
was like, oh, okay, cool. I'm glad I wouldn't singing
along because I would have just kept on singing.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I get it. It's overwhelming at a concert. There's
a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
There's a lot going on. I was, you know, I
wasn't paying attention, and then everybody was on mute and
I was like cool, cool me.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Too, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
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you and what cool shit you have going on?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
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