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From Britney Spears naming her ex-bodyguard as her emergency contact during a frightening DUI arrest, to Netflix facing outrage over its explosive Michael Jackson trial documentary, and Gayle King revealing she once begged Oprah Winfrey to deny longtime “secret gay” rumors — Hollywood’s biggest stars are suddenly battling deeply personal controversies in public.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
VI for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's no love Loo, welcome to the noy but nice
sham your house from shooter and it's Thursday, which means
our dear friend Mark Loofer ge angels, hey LEUVI are
you there? Last week we had a little bit of
issues with the sound, so thank you for all your
d ms and your notes. You're never criticizing. I like feedback.

(00:35):
I'm a big boy and I've got tough skin, and
it was really valuable. The sound was a little officer.
Hopefully we're going to figure that out today. Mark's going
to sit a little closer to his microphone. Although I
do like being just a little bit louder than everybody.
I was once in London at this concert. I think
it was a Wicked concert, and the British girl who

(00:55):
was in Wicked is phenomenal. She's no longer in it,
but she was phenomenal. A DNA Menzelle was at the
show too, and a Diana suggested that when she seeks,
that might be a little bit loud.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I don't mind if you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Rather, it's argud no. I used to do that when
I was on the Gossip Table, the Morning show on
VH one. I'd walk in and when they put the
mic on me, I made friends with the sound guy
immediately right after the makeup. That's the most important person
hair and makeup. Then it's the sound people. And I
said to this very cute sound guy, make me a
little louder, but everybody else and he did, Okay, we're

(01:31):
going to try to have an even level of sound today.
What time is it, my friend said, el is tea time?
Really sad. Big story at the top of the show.
So we now know Britney Spears's shocking emergency contact. It
is not a family member, it's not even a lifetime friend.
It's her ex bodyguard. How do we know this? When
she was recently arrested the DUI, who did she call?

(01:52):
Not a family, not a friend, but her ex bodyguard,
Thomas bunder Bumbaree. That's his name, Bumbaree. The Daily have
investigated this and found him. So Brittany quietly called Thomas
from the side of the road while police were questioning her,
and it just reveals how close the two have become.
Despite explosive allegations around him. There's some shadiness here. So

(02:17):
inside his claim that the former bodyguard he's no longer
the bodyguard has really become involved. In fact, he has
become one of Britney Spears's most trusted confidence, even after
accusations that he accessed her private accounts and concerns over
his troubled past. Will Sources say that Britney continues to
spend time with Thomas after the arrest, and the two

(02:40):
even spent time together before she went to rehab. Now
why this is important is that sources around the Britney
friend's family members are really concerned that once again, it's
not the first time, once again she might be placing
her trust in the wrong person. Oh, Britney, she makes
bad descis. I don't know if she's ever going to

(03:02):
change that. But when you make bad decisions and you
let bad people into your life, it's not going to end.
It's not going to be a happy ending. Mark, what
do you think?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Not a happy ending? And yes, it's so many bad
decisions that led up to this point. My question though,
is where are the friends and family Who are these people,
if there are any left that are supposed to be
there for her. Where are the free Brittany people who
are so you know, free her, free her where's that
energy now for we need to figure this out. She's
not well and she cannot be on her own. Clearly

(03:30):
there's something deeply wrong there.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah. Absolutely, we report on Brittany. I call my sources,
and it's getting more and more difficult to do any
reports on Brittany because the people that used to be
at least in her life marginally are not in it.
The friends, the family members, the institution of celebrity, the publicists,
the agents, the managers have all sort of disappeared, and
Britney's life has become very insular. I would imagine from

(03:56):
people I've spoken to, being friends with Britney Spears is
very difficul It's very challenging. If you think about friends
in your own life, sometimes it's difficult. We've all got
that wacky friend, We've all got that needy friend. We've
all got that friend who might even struggle with mental
health issues. Britney certainly does. It's really hard to be
friends with Britney Spears. I know, on the surface, she's

(04:18):
rich and she's famous, and she's Brittany. Like, if you said,
do you want to be friends with Britney Spears? Do
you want to be friends with Madonna? Do you want
to be friends with j Lo? The first answer I
think is going to be yes. As somebody who's met
all three, I could tell you the answer might be no,
because once the celebrity, once the star dust disappears, you're
left with a really difficult person who's a narcissist and

(04:40):
very wealthy and very powerful, and suddenly, I don't know.
I'm always quite suspicious about people who have tons and
tons of celebrity friends, because my experience with celebrities are
they are delicious, they are so much fun to be around,
but they're not necessarily good friends because the only thing,
or the main thing that think about is themselves, and

(05:02):
that's why they are so successful. It's sort of like
a double edged sword. You've got to be a narcissist
to be a successful celebrity. It's got to be about
you all the time. You've gotta want to always put
on a show. That's why you're so entertaining. However, that
does not make for a good partner or a good friend.
You've been around celebrities, Mark, I know your friendships. Your

(05:22):
group is very tight. It's not stars, it's not celebrities.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
No, I mean I do you know celebrities from Afar
and I It's the reason why I don't really stay
friends with people like that is because it is exhausting.
It's always all crazy. Are you're the best? You're really
amazing guy?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I can It's it's soresome.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's funny for a couple of nights out. I used
to be quite close with Sonia Morgan, the Real Housewife
and every Thursday when Brother aired The Real Housewives of
New York, she had only gay men over to her apartment.
Once I took after in Valerie and she literally said,
no girls aloud, that you can't unless that if she leaves,
I leave, And she ended up staying. But she shouldn't
have stayed because Sonya was rude to her the whole night.

(06:03):
But we used to ad a Sonya so and we
used to watch Sonya watch herself on TV, and it
was all about Sonya and every time she said something, oh,
that's an iconic moment on that Sonya, Oh this is
bigger than throwing the leg or you're the star, You're
the new Teresa side And it was just exhausted and
it was funny for maybe a month and then the
second month, I just stopped going because it was exhausting

(06:26):
and be it was a little bit sad, it was
a little bit needy. And so being friends with Britney Spears,
good question mark where are they? But I do understand
why they're not there. It's not easy. It is not easy,
which brings us to our whole question of the day.
Britney Spears's emergency contact is her ex bodyguard? Not family,
not friends, No, an ex bodyguard who might be a

(06:48):
little bit shady. Is this sad? Is it sad? Go
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hear your results. Hey Loopy, what are you working on that?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, so some more tough pop news. Netflix is under
fire now for an explosive Michael Jackson trial dot they're
about to release. So Netflix is basing fierce backlash ahead
of the release of Michael Jackson The Verdict to new
doc revisiting the singer's two thousand and five child molestation trial. Now,
fans are accusing the streamer of exploiting Jackson's legacy nearly

(07:26):
two decades after his death, especially after the massive success
of the recent Michael biopic, and social media has erupted
with outrage, with supporters insisting Jackson was equated on all
accounts and calling a documentary a money grab a roub.
The doc promises to have interviews with jurors, accusers, and
court room insiders, and it's reigniting one of the biggest,

(07:48):
most avisive pop culture scandals of our time.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
What do you think, Yeah, yeah, I mean to say
some money grab is silly, because that's what these companies do.
They're not there to entertain money, all these entertainment companies,
I'm not there to put on a great show. They're
a profit, profit driven. Is this yes? And so if
I was the head of Netflix or any other any
other network, this is a good week to talk about Michael.

(08:12):
If I was at NBC, we'd do a Michael special
this week for two hours on Dateline, Like this is
what they do. The morning shows should cover Michael this week.
Whenever a celebrity is in the news, we piggyback on them.
When a royal gets married, when Harry and Meghan get married,
They're on the cover of every magazine not because those
magazines wanted to bring you the news. No, they wanted
to sell magazines. It is a moneymaking business, so I'm

(08:35):
not at all surprised by this. This movie has made
eight hundred million dollars more than The Devil Wears Prada.
Expect to see a lot of Michael coverage. And this
is what the problem is with celebrity. When you put
yourself in the public eye, when you reach out, they'll
always be a backlash. I remember what. There was a
time when I was working with Jessica Simpson and she
was sick or she said she was sick of being

(08:56):
on the cover of US Weekly, in the magazines every
single week. She loves it, but she claimed that she
didn't like it. And I said, the only way that
they're going to stop putting you on the cover is
when it doesn't sell. But that also means your career
is not where you want it to be. So you
should every week you go on a Wednesday or Friday

(09:16):
to the newsstand and see yourself on the cover, you
should drop to the floor and kiss it and thank
the Lord because it means you're relevant. Now Jessica cannot
be on the cover, so those magazines because she doesn't
sell and I think she misses it. Be careful these
celebrities who are like, oh my goodness, leave me alone. Leave,
I'll leave you alone and see how you feel dead.
History is littered with celebrities who have been asking Bethany Frankle,

(09:41):
leave me alone, leave my daughter alone. It's private. Now
we're ignored. Go And she's like in a bikini on
the beach taking pictures of herself, like she desperately misses
the attention. So the difficult part of this is it's
attention that the estate doesn't want us to talk about it.
And they never mentioned any of this in the movie.
I saw the movie. I loved it. I'm not exactly
sure it's truthful, but I did thoroughly enjoy it. It's

(10:04):
very tricky with Michael because he changed the face of music,
and we love his songs. And if you and me
and we're going out tonight together, if a Michael Jackson
song comes on me and our little feet bit it's
not tappul under the tape. I love it, but I
don't know if I'm allowed to like it anymore. Where
are you on? Jackson?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's complicated, it is I remember my brother getting married
in twenty nineteen ish and Jonathan, we're talking to the
DJ about Michael Jackson and we're like, it was during
that me two time, and are we okay playing Michael Jackson?
We want to, but is that okay? Problem?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Did he play it? In the end?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, said, which was sad. You know, looking back, whatever.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Makes everyone dance, everyone gets on the dance. It's a
very very complicated thing. But you can't blame Netflix here.
This is actually smart programming. We shouldn't be shocked, we
shouldn't be surprised, we should expect it. Okay, moving along,
I love this story. Gail King is a final admitting
that she clashed with Oprah. The biggest fight they ever
had was over the gay rumors. So Gail admits that

(11:06):
she once begged her best friend Oprah to publicly shut
down the rumors that they were secret lovers. But get this,
Oprah refused. So Gail's on her Call Your Daddy podcast,
and she said, at first, the speculation deeply upset her
because get this, it hurt her dating life. She was
looking for a man, and if everybody thought she was gay,
they weren't going to data and sheesus. She said, Oprah,

(11:28):
it's okay for you because She've got Steedman, so you
don't have to worry about this. But me by myself now,
she said her as time when on. As time passed,
she doesn't care about it anymore. She insists, if Oprah
and I were gay, we would tell you. But it
is interesting, isn't it. Oprah refused. She said, no, I'm
ignoring these rumors. There's nothing wrong with being gay. How

(11:51):
do I say I'm not gay without implying I don't
want to be gay? It's very, very difficult. I think
this is just amazing. If I'd been if you had
come to me and said, can we put out rumors
that we're not gay, we're not a couple, I'd say, yes,
we can. But Oprah was like, no, not playing this game.
I sort of Admira, what do you think?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I do? Have a funny story about this. I intended
a Oprah book event a few months ago in New York,
and it was moderated by a gale, of course, And
in the middle of the of the panel, Oprah's phone rings,
and Oprah looks at her phone, and she sounds and
puts it down and Gal.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Goes who does that?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Who called you? She goes stead Bit but like, none
of us believe that Stedman's calling her in the middle
of that panel. It was like a planted thing for
us to think he's still around. But where is Steedman?
He's been missing and the public guy for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Now, Oh, I love it. I did something really naughty
a couple of weeks ago. I was having drinks with
a reporter from Vanity Fair who did that hatchet job
on the may I so, have you read that story
about it? So be bark and they read a picture
of me with the black eye. But I was with
the reporter from Vady Fair. He was into me. I
knew he was coming, and so ten minutes before he arrived,
Nancy Grace called me. I said, Nancy, I can't talk now,

(13:06):
call back in thirty minutes because I can show off
that Nancy Grace is calling me to this reporter. She did,
and I just my phone rang in the middle of
the interview and he was like, do you need to
get that. It's like, no, it's just Nancy. It's Nancy Grace.
And in the end we got it and she was
really funny. Now I think it's I think there's a
lot of show busies. I think there's a lot of
set up here. I think to Gail was a little

(13:27):
bit homophobic about this. She didn't want people to think
she was gay because she didn't think it was a
very flattering thing. And we've evolved now. Being gay's great.
I love it. Mark. When I was a little boy,
I used to dream at night. I used to make
a wish, Please make me straight, Jesus please. I don't
want to be gay. I don't want to be gay.
My arm's bad enough. I've got a broken arm. I
don't want. I don't want more more stuff that makes

(13:48):
me difference. Now, I wouldn't change it for the world.
It has changed my life in all the most wondrous ways.
Where were you on this?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's funny the street men in our lives, the ones
that are our age, They tired and they are beaten down,
and they looked just out of shape and gross on like.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You're the brother. You know.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
We just we looked out Rob, We really did.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
We looked at We looked at Gail. Too bad you
didn't look at But I do enjoy the story. Okay,
moving along, Chelsea Handler has dumped a cowboy boyfriend, Chelsea?
What is That's right?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
She's back in the market. The comedian revealed she has
split from her construction executive Joe Agura, the mystery cowboy
she famously met at Las Vegas black jack table. The
story is so crazy, so Handler called the romance a
really funny adventure, admitting that the pair enjoyed a hot
five to six month wing before finally calling when and

(14:44):
I think you remember they met at a casino when
she borrowed one thousand dollars from him, and then she
invited him on the spontaneous trip to Antartica.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Crazy, he went, We went, first of all, if I've
been a black jack table or you asked for if
I'm anywhere you asked her for that dollars on run,
I'll say, being held up, that I'd be mugged. I
would run for my life. But I want Chelsea to
find happiness. She does make me giggirl. I like how
honest she is about her relationships. She was a lot
younger than her two and she said it was a

(15:14):
really romantic, winking good time they had together. I bet
they did. She's had some wild boyfriends. Fifty cent what
she dated her fifty cent do I love it? I
love it. I can't wait to see who she dates next. Dakay,
we're going to take her quing Rain and we will
re right back. Welcome back to the Naughty b Nice

(15:35):
Shammi hostrom Tutor with aty have been Mark Lupo Holey
p Let's get to the polls. Yesterday we talked about
how prosecutors claimed that Matthew Perry's assistant tried to cover
up tedamine evidence. So after after Matthew died he got
rid allegedly of syringes of information of documentation. Should he

(15:56):
go to jail? Ninety percent said yes, well you will
be relieved he's going to jail. The verdict is Dan,
he is going to jail. Okay, don't forget to vote
on today's Paul. Go to a Twitter page at Naughty
Nice rob at facebook page is naughty Yosip and be
sure to check back Tomorrowter here your results and now

(16:21):
it's time for and nicest of the day.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Wow Wow Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Of course, we love her. We love her.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
She stunned an eight year old fan with the sweet
surprise after her viral TikTok video Taylors have truly made
one little fans dream into reality. After an adorable TikTok
showing an eight year old Madeline tossing a paper airplane
over the fence asking her musician neighbor to play love story,
this went viral and Swift stepped in with a jaw

(16:51):
dropping surprise. He signed guitar and a hell.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Written She's the best.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
She's truly the best, and the superstar told the young
swifteed video brought her a big smile trophy and hers
her to learn guitar herself.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh, it's a great. Four million people have watched that video,
even the neighbor, the musician neighbor, so he never thought
Taylor would respond. It is adorable. Do the right thing,
do the good thing, Taylor Swift, you are an inspiration.
And nice is the day and not is the day.
Lordy naughty noughty. We just hinted that this Matthew Perry's
assistant has been sentenced to jail. His assistant, Kenneth, was

(17:25):
sentenced to forty one months in prison for his role
in the beloved actors Kedermine overdose. This story is so outrageous.
It is alleged that after injecting him, the assistant Kenneth
injected Matthew and he left him to die in a
hot tub. And then it's alleged that he also took
Matthew's car for a spin and then tried to delete evidence.

(17:47):
I think, I think just to see her has been served.
Some people say he should spend even longer in jail,
and not he is the day. Let's end with a
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