August 12, 2026 • 20 mins
Sarah Ferguson is in Portugal meeting her newest granddaughter while Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor appears to be left behind. Meanwhile, Brad Pitt had reportedly already returned to drinking when he attended Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s wedding, weeks before revealing he was no longer sober. And Bruce Willis missed his daughter’s wedding as his family continues to rally around him and protect his privacy during his health battle.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Advice, sugar Spice. It's one.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to the Naughty but Nice. I'm your host, Rob Shooter,
and it's Wednesday, which means I do a friend Donnie
meet him? Is with us? Hey, Donnie, how are you
hellower level?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And I've been out a couple of weeks, y'all, and
we had missed doing the show. A lot had happened.
I had, I've moved apartments, and if anybody knows that
moving is a very stressful thing to do, I also.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's easier of the two making.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ear bit by a stray dog. You did breaking up
my friends, like attacked my friends. So it nearly severed
the top half of my ear And that's no exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It was.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It has been a grueling, gruppealing process.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We've been thinking about you. I didn't reveal any into detail,
so yeah, I can keep it secret. Noughts. I thought
it was Darney's story to tell. I'm glad that you've
told it. We don't keep secrets from one another on
the show. I think that's why, friend, part of the
reason the show it's successful, as we really let each other,
all of us into each other's lives. And so thank
you for sharing can you hear out of your right ear?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I can hear myself talk.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But what else would you want to hear?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I mean, your voices?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How dare you? Oh, well, I'm going to find that
dog and pay him twenty of your skits to get
your other ear. No, I'm glad you're doing better, my friend,
you think Meanwhile, the new apartment looks fancy.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh it's honey, it's you know. You don't realize this.
This is like, this is a real moment between people.
Is where you live can really affect your absolutely happiness
and your feeling. And I didn't realize it until even
I think even Rob can tell that there's light in
this part.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The difference is done. It's for me. It's not about
having a big apartment or an expensive apartment. It's not that.
For me. I just need the light. When I wake
up in the morning and I walk into my living room,
I'm looking of My living room's on the corner, so
I have windows that look uptown and across the river,
and the light comes flooding in and it actually changes
(02:13):
the way I feel. It really is important. We spend
a lot of time at home because we work at home.
You and me are. We don't have an office. It's
our office, is our is our home. So I'm so
happy that you're happy, my friend, and welcome back. And
if you can't hear me, raise a hand and I
shall repeat my question for you. What time is it,
(02:36):
my friends? It is tea time. Ignore it. At the
top of the show, Fergie, the Duchess of York, Sarah
Ferguson gets to see her granddaughter for the very first
time in Portugal, so she's finally met her newest grandchild
after Princess Eugenie. Welcome to her third child. This is
a third child, but Andrew Mantbatton Windsor. I always going
(02:58):
to say Prince Andrew. That's not his name anymore. He
appears to be sitting this family reunion out now. This
is a big story on many levels. After he was arrested,
Sarah Ferguson pretty much fled the country. She has not
been back in the UK since the arrest. Source has
telled me exclusively she's frightened that she'll be arrested and
(03:19):
so she's not stepping foot in Britain. It does feel
sad and tragic and also disgusting. But now in order
to see her grandkids. They've got to go to Portugal.
We should point out that Eugenie has had a home
in Portugal for a long time. Sarah's been really shady.
She's not telling anyone where she lives. There's been reports
that she's in the Swiss Alps. There's some reports she
(03:39):
was in France. She's relying on the kindness of strangers.
She's not exactly sleeping on a spare couch. If you
were nice enough, kind enough, silly enough to put her up,
I hope you've got a staff. She's very demanding. But
now we know she's off to Portugal to meet Eugenie
and really meet her granddaughter for the very first time.
(04:00):
What a pickle, What a mess. When you've got to
start shipping granny around Europe to meet to meet the kids,
you know you're in big trouble. What do you think.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, here's the thing. It's gotta be really it's embarrassing
for her. And I think that that is the problem
here is like everybody can say, oh, she just she
left Andrew high and dry. She left him when she
needed He's been accused of some really awful rings. Yeah,
and she was married to me. The kids together, yes,
(04:35):
and it's it's it was something that will regardless of it,
didn't mean to it. She's she is almost in Some
people sayes guilty by association because she was there during
the time. She was not saying there during the physical time,
but around everybody wonders how much did she actually know? Right,
(04:57):
And so for her, I think it's easy to escape.
You need to just go away.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Easiest, Yes, But I don't think it's the solution here.
My argument would be, if you're innocent, go and answer
the questions. If you were guilty by association, go and
answer the questions. We've all had a shady person in
our life, hopefully not as shady as Andrew Manbatten, but
we have had. You know, you could be guilty by
association and not guilty at all. So, Sarah, if for
(05:23):
some miracle that you have just in the wrong place
at the wrong time, if that really is the truth,
I doubt that. We've seen a lot of evidence. We've
seen a lot of emails. We know how close Sarah
was to Jeffrey Epstein. This wasn't a friend of her husband's,
her ex husband. This was someone she called her brother.
(05:44):
We've seen the emails So if you're innocent, you fly
back to Britain, you walk into the police station and
you answer the questions. This is making you look so guilty.
I feel for you, Junior. Here, what does she do?
Her mother? It's her mom. She loves her mom. She
wants her mom to meet her granddaughter. But yeah, her
(06:06):
mom is really on some very very very slippery, shady
ground here, and it's not going to change unless Sarah
starts answering the questions. Now, maybe she doesn't want to
answer the questions because she knows the answers. We don't
know the answer. She does, she knows the answers. So
(06:26):
I think maybe the reason she won't return to Britain
is that she's guilty. You don't want to accuse somebody,
to convict somebody without a fair trial, without the evidence.
But this behavior, it is so sketchy, it is so dodgy,
it is so unroyal. It is an embarrassment to this family.
They will never ever ever welcome Sarah Ferguson back into
(06:50):
this family, which brings us to our pole question of
the day. Fergie had to get a Portugal to meet
her granddaughter for the first time. Do you think she
should return to the UK and face the music. Should
she return if she can get on a plane and
get a Portugal? Europe's very small, Donnie. It's very easy
(07:10):
to fly from country to country. It takes what six
seven hours to get from la to New York. You
can get from London to Paris in forty five minutes
an hour. You can get to Portugal to London and
less than tomorrows. She couldn't do it if she wanted
to do it. Why is she gonna do it? Our
question of the day is should she yes or no?
Go vote on our Twitter page, X page any nice
(07:33):
rob a Facebook page Naughty Gossip and be sure to
check back tomorrow to hear your results. Donnie Love, what
are you working on apart from yourself? What are you
working on professionally? For the ship? You've had a lot
of work.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
There's a lot more shells involved with that punt coming in.
But this is an interesting topic when it comes to
drinking in alcohol, because we make jokes all the time
about go to beatinos, and because the problem is is
and I hate it sound like it makes you sound
almost like an alcoholic, but it's like I enjoy sitting
(08:12):
down and having a Vauxa soda.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
With the fright do that. That doesn't make you sound
like an alcoholic.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, but that's where thing because Brad Pitt has come
out and he has very open with Esquire and so
he went sober after his divorce from Angelina to Joe Lee.
He was sober for roughly seven years. What then he
admitted that he had been drinking again, been really trying
to do it in moderation. And now people are saying
(08:37):
that he was actually drinking at Taylor Swift's wedding. And
that's where people were like, because he hadn't talked about it,
that's right. So when you don't talk about it, seems like, oh,
is there something going on there? Has he fallen off
the wagon? Which is like the term, But people had
noticed just kind of drinking without any explanation. So that's
(08:58):
the problem is when you're so open about your sobriety,
how open you have to be about I yes, drinking
in moderation.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's all right. I take your example about going to botinos.
The difference is we have never been sober and we're
not alcoholics. We enjoy a glass of wine, we enjoy
a vod Ca soda. If you tell the world that
you have a drinking problem, which brad did, if you
tell the world that you're in AA, if you tell
the world that Bradley Cooper is helping you, then if
somebody spots you having a drink, they're going to talk
(09:27):
about it. And on top of that, you're one of
the most famous people in the world. Nobody's reporting you
and me drinking vodka sodas to the Daily Mail. I
don't think maybe with my new fan success with my book,
or maybe with your dog story, maybe that could get
you on the cover of the post, but that we're
probably not going to end up there now. I read
(09:49):
a story yesterday about Angelina's reaction that got picked up
everywhere the Daily Mail radar and I got a call,
a very sharp call from a friend of Brat's, and
I said, what is going gone here? Because nobody caught
Brad He wasn't caught by radar, a TMZ or the
Daily Mail. He volunteered this information to esquire why did
he do that? I said, is something coming out? Is
(10:11):
a bombshell about to drop? And that's normally when a
celebrity runs to a favorite class list And they said no,
But what is happening is Brad is enjoying a glass
of wine when he goes out with friends, when he
goes out with his girlfriends, when he goes to a wedding,
He's enjoying a glass of wine. And he knows this
story will break and if he doesn't break it, if
(10:32):
we break it, it will be awful. And there's some
truth to that. Having Angelina Joli's reaction, he's not good
news for Brad Pitt, But having me break the news
that he's drinking again, then he's fell off the back wagon.
That's awful. So that's what they've got ahead of now.
They knew this story would be big, they knew it
would get reactions it has, But I still think it's
(10:52):
been managed very very well. If Brad's going to go
to Bottino's, to a restaurant and have a glass of wine,
someone's going to someone's gonna notice you at a wedding
and we're all gonna gossip about it. If you and
I Donnie were out and we saw Brad having a drink,
would be like, oh, but now he's told us he
is drinking. Now we can't see him drop down drunk.
(11:15):
But if you see him have one glass. He's already
spoken about it, so that's why he is telling this story. Okay,
moving a long. Oprah Winfrey, Oh, this is big nurse.
She's been spotted with Steedman. Oh. I was worried about Steedman.
We've not seen them together for a really long time. Effect.
I think the last time they were together was twenty nineteen.
(11:36):
I asked my photo department to look through old photographs
and find the last picture of Oprah and Stedman. The
last picture they could find, it's seven years ago, don
it that's a long time. So Oprah was having a
fortieth anniversary celebration of the Oprah Winfrey Show forty years ago.
Can you imagine, huge, huge hits. So they did it
(11:57):
in Chicago. It was at the Navy Peace They invited
all the old staff back. I have some friends who
worked on that show. They no longer live in Chicago,
but they flew in for this party and they're standing
alongside the Queen. Was not only Yale, but with Steadman.
They have a very interesting relationship. They've been together since
the eighties, since nineteen eighty six. They were gonna get married.
(12:20):
Remember they were engaged in nineteen ninety two, and then
they called off the wedding, saying they didn't actually want
to get married. They want to be together, but they
don't need that formal bond. There's been a lot of
rumors about these two. Are they a couple? Aren't they
a couple? They're together. Whatever they have works for them,
don't they. And I think as people who have had
(12:42):
our relationships judged our entire lives as gay men, we
know what it's like to have people pass judgment about
who we date. So I try to give Oprah a
little bit of grace. Here. Where are you on this? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, well, Stedman, he was almost like Mitch McConnell. Well,
you didn't really know if he was. Is he sweety?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Does he?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Is he still around? Is he still happening? Is he
breathing air?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Is he locked in monacito? Is he you know where
he is he? But here's the thing. Stedman, though, has
somehow managed to play this perfectly because he is not
just Oprah's man, and so he's just because we don't
see him, so he's just you kind of forget about them,
which I think is what he wants.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's such a telling wonderful example in celebrity couples that
you can have your own life. He's a very successful businessman.
He has a different life professionally from if I was
dating at Win, I would be her manager, I'd be
her agent. I would make sure that I was on
(13:51):
the gravy train. A lot of them do, don't they
They always get married or they always become their manager. Oh,
they're the worst managers. If you've got your spouse as
your manage those are the ones that drive me nuts
because they're not really managers, they're spouses. And my question
is if that wasn't your husband, would he be your manager, Oprah?
And the answer is no. She shouldn't hire a segment,
but it's her husband, so I sort of respect them here.
(14:13):
So Yes, although they get a lot of grief, a
lot of speculation, a lot of rumors, don't believe it,
they are together. Okay, before we get a break, stuck
her to chat in remember her Rizzo in Greece. She's
doing a really rare interview and I can't get enough
of it. What does she have to say? Darnie, where's
(14:34):
the thing?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
She's stuck her turning? She's risk she could do whatever
she wants. You want anything she wants. She's I still
find her to be one of the most beautiful, striking
women on the planet. She's just something about her. Well,
she's living in London, honey, she's over there with your family,
just living the dream. She's just having fun. But she's
(14:55):
saying she's living. She's a recluse and she's never been happier.
I love her. Oh that's all I want to be
when I get older. I just want to just leave
me alone. Just you could let me live my day,
let me do, let me drink some wine.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Do you have a bit of a recluse in you?
I want to be there.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
She's happy being there, and I love.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Eighty two years old, loving her life, doing whatever she wants.
She said her days are beautiful. She journals in bed,
she feeds her dog, she reads, just polades. She potters about.
That's a very British term, potter apad. I can spend
all day pottering abat. We love it, we love it,
we love it. Okay, we're going to take a quick
break and we will be right back. Welcome back to
(15:35):
the naughty but nice of how you're holding up, Donnie,
Can you hear me.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Myself, beauty every word I'm saying coming out.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
If I need to learn a little sign language, do
let me know. I'll learn how to say shut up
and sign shut up. And I think that's what it
is close about. Just shut up, No, sweetie, I'll learn.
I love you. Okay, let's get to the pole. Last show,
he took about Brad Pitt admitting his drinking again. This
(16:03):
is a good idea, a bad idea. Brad. He's saying
it's fine. He has a couple of drinks. He knows
now he's limits, he knows he can drink too much.
He's fine, good ninety. It's a bad idea. You know,
once you admit you have a problem, you really do
have a problem. Because admitted it is a really big thing.
Many people have problems for a very long time before
they admit it. So seven years ago he knew he
(16:25):
was in serious trouble. He got sober. Now he's having
a drink again. Oh, Brad, bad idea. Hey, don't forget
to vote on today's Paul got x page at Twitter
page had naughty nice rum. Facebook page is not a
gossip and be sure to check back. Tom Rauta here
your results. And now this is so touching, so emotional,
(16:47):
so real, so raw. It is our nicest of the day.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The nice day is Kaya Gerber. She's opening up about
her brother, Presley's you know, he's struggle with a didiction
for a long time. And you know, she's kind of
cause that's a lot of people don't understand is yes,
the individual person is dealing with it, but everyone around
them also has to deal with it in some way
or the other. And Kaya is coming out saying, look,
(17:14):
something like that happens at a family, It really kind
of levels everyone. It really just puts everybody on the
same playing field of okay, now what do we do?
And you know, she said that she's proud of her
brother for confronting his struggles, especially being that it's in
the public eye. Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, hey,
(17:35):
yes I have a problem with the addiction. But yes, you
are going to see this and you are going to
now I have to relive it over and over and
everyone's judgment and she goes trying to put a lid
on something just makes the person feel like you're ashamed
of them. So for her, she's coming out she saying, look,
we're talking about it because we're proud of him for
(17:55):
dealing with it. We're not ashamed that he was an addict.
We're not ashamed that he was dealing with there. We're
actually proud that he had, you know, the gomption to
come out and talk about it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Right, She's right, you'd be proud when you're ashamed of somebody,
It doesn't make a problem go away. When you're ashamed
of yourself, that problem doesn't go away.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You got themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, you got to talk about it. And nicest of
the day. And now I noticed the day naughty, naughty.
This ugly disease that Bruce Willis has is just robbing
him of so much, including his daughter's wedding. So let
me be clear here, Bruce is not the naughtiest. It's
his health battle. So Bruce missed his daughter's wedding. He
wasn't able to attend the wedding. Heartbreaking. I'm told he's
(18:41):
now in a place where he often does not remember
people in his life. I can't imagine your big day
wanting your mom and your dad, your family around you,
maybe your dad to walk you down the aisle, and
it's just not possible. The nice thing is I'm told
everybody understands why Bruce could be there. There was no drama,
(19:01):
no falling out, just the family making the best decision
for him. It was best for him. Oh, and augh
to your stuff the day. Let's end with a moment
of rob you gotta rob, you, gonna ub you, gonna
ub you. You know what, Donnie, ten years from now,
you won't remember ninety nine percent of the truck stuff
that is troubling you right now. So ten years from now,
(19:21):
most of the things that are keeping you awake at
night right now won't matter. The doubts and the fears,
the questions, all that stuff that's rattling around your head.
I promise you, ten years from now, you will barely
remember it. What you will remember is if you were
too afraid to take a risk, if you were too
afraid to open the door, if you were too afraid
(19:42):
to give yourself permission to go for your goals. Don't
let your fear that you have right now stop you
from doing stuff that's going to change your life in
the future. Ten years from now, all these fears will
not matter. Hey, that is it for today. Thank you
so much for listening to the naughty, but Nice with
(20:04):
Rob and Donnie Show. Seriously, Donnie, thank you for being back.
We love you, were sending you all our best wishes
and thank you for having a great sense of humor
about it too. This is serious and I think with
a bit of a giggle, with a bit of a laugh,
it's easier to get through life. We love you. Hey,
We're a production of Elvis Durant and iHeartRadio. Don't forget
(20:26):
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you're going to be naughty, you've got to be Let
me hear you, Donnie. Can I hear you? Nice?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Nice Bra
Advice, sugar Spice. It's one.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to the Naughty but Nice. I'm your host, Rob Shooter,
and it's Wednesday, which means I do a friend Donnie
meet him? Is with us? Hey, Donnie, how are you
hellower level?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And I've been out a couple of weeks, y'all, and
we had missed doing the show. A lot had happened.
I had, I've moved apartments, and if anybody knows that
moving is a very stressful thing to do, I also.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's easier of the two making.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ear bit by a stray dog. You did breaking up
my friends, like attacked my friends. So it nearly severed
the top half of my ear And that's no exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It was.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It has been a grueling, gruppealing process.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We've been thinking about you. I didn't reveal any into detail,
so yeah, I can keep it secret. Noughts. I thought
it was Darney's story to tell. I'm glad that you've
told it. We don't keep secrets from one another on
the show. I think that's why, friend, part of the
reason the show it's successful, as we really let each other,
all of us into each other's lives. And so thank
you for sharing can you hear out of your right ear?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I can hear myself talk.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
But what else would you want to hear?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I mean, your voices?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How dare you? Oh, well, I'm going to find that
dog and pay him twenty of your skits to get
your other ear. No, I'm glad you're doing better, my friend,
you think Meanwhile, the new apartment looks fancy.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh it's honey, it's you know. You don't realize this.
This is like, this is a real moment between people.
Is where you live can really affect your absolutely happiness
and your feeling. And I didn't realize it until even
I think even Rob can tell that there's light in
this part.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The difference is done. It's for me. It's not about
having a big apartment or an expensive apartment. It's not that.
For me. I just need the light. When I wake
up in the morning and I walk into my living room,
I'm looking of My living room's on the corner, so
I have windows that look uptown and across the river,
and the light comes flooding in and it actually changes
(02:13):
the way I feel. It really is important. We spend
a lot of time at home because we work at home.
You and me are. We don't have an office. It's
our office, is our is our home. So I'm so
happy that you're happy, my friend, and welcome back. And
if you can't hear me, raise a hand and I
shall repeat my question for you. What time is it,
(02:36):
my friends? It is tea time. Ignore it. At the
top of the show, Fergie, the Duchess of York, Sarah
Ferguson gets to see her granddaughter for the very first
time in Portugal, so she's finally met her newest grandchild
after Princess Eugenie. Welcome to her third child. This is
a third child, but Andrew Mantbatton Windsor. I always going
(02:58):
to say Prince Andrew. That's not his name anymore. He
appears to be sitting this family reunion out now. This
is a big story on many levels. After he was arrested,
Sarah Ferguson pretty much fled the country. She has not
been back in the UK since the arrest. Source has
telled me exclusively she's frightened that she'll be arrested and
(03:19):
so she's not stepping foot in Britain. It does feel
sad and tragic and also disgusting. But now in order
to see her grandkids. They've got to go to Portugal.
We should point out that Eugenie has had a home
in Portugal for a long time. Sarah's been really shady.
She's not telling anyone where she lives. There's been reports
that she's in the Swiss Alps. There's some reports she
(03:39):
was in France. She's relying on the kindness of strangers.
She's not exactly sleeping on a spare couch. If you
were nice enough, kind enough, silly enough to put her up,
I hope you've got a staff. She's very demanding. But
now we know she's off to Portugal to meet Eugenie
and really meet her granddaughter for the very first time.
(04:00):
What a pickle, What a mess. When you've got to
start shipping granny around Europe to meet to meet the kids,
you know you're in big trouble. What do you think.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, here's the thing. It's gotta be really it's embarrassing
for her. And I think that that is the problem
here is like everybody can say, oh, she just she
left Andrew high and dry. She left him when she
needed He's been accused of some really awful rings. Yeah,
and she was married to me. The kids together, yes,
(04:35):
and it's it's it was something that will regardless of it,
didn't mean to it. She's she is almost in Some
people sayes guilty by association because she was there during
the time. She was not saying there during the physical time,
but around everybody wonders how much did she actually know? Right,
(04:57):
And so for her, I think it's easy to escape.
You need to just go away.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Easiest, Yes, But I don't think it's the solution here.
My argument would be, if you're innocent, go and answer
the questions. If you were guilty by association, go and
answer the questions. We've all had a shady person in
our life, hopefully not as shady as Andrew Manbatten, but
we have had. You know, you could be guilty by
association and not guilty at all. So, Sarah, if for
(05:23):
some miracle that you have just in the wrong place
at the wrong time, if that really is the truth,
I doubt that. We've seen a lot of evidence. We've
seen a lot of emails. We know how close Sarah
was to Jeffrey Epstein. This wasn't a friend of her husband's,
her ex husband. This was someone she called her brother.
(05:44):
We've seen the emails So if you're innocent, you fly
back to Britain, you walk into the police station and
you answer the questions. This is making you look so guilty.
I feel for you, Junior. Here, what does she do?
Her mother? It's her mom. She loves her mom. She
wants her mom to meet her granddaughter. But yeah, her
(06:06):
mom is really on some very very very slippery, shady
ground here, and it's not going to change unless Sarah
starts answering the questions. Now, maybe she doesn't want to
answer the questions because she knows the answers. We don't
know the answer. She does, she knows the answers. So
(06:26):
I think maybe the reason she won't return to Britain
is that she's guilty. You don't want to accuse somebody,
to convict somebody without a fair trial, without the evidence.
But this behavior, it is so sketchy, it is so dodgy,
it is so unroyal. It is an embarrassment to this family.
They will never ever ever welcome Sarah Ferguson back into
(06:50):
this family, which brings us to our pole question of
the day. Fergie had to get a Portugal to meet
her granddaughter for the first time. Do you think she
should return to the UK and face the music. Should
she return if she can get on a plane and
get a Portugal? Europe's very small, Donnie. It's very easy
(07:10):
to fly from country to country. It takes what six
seven hours to get from la to New York. You
can get from London to Paris in forty five minutes
an hour. You can get to Portugal to London and
less than tomorrows. She couldn't do it if she wanted
to do it. Why is she gonna do it? Our
question of the day is should she yes or no?
Go vote on our Twitter page, X page any nice
(07:33):
rob a Facebook page Naughty Gossip and be sure to
check back tomorrow to hear your results. Donnie Love, what
are you working on apart from yourself? What are you
working on professionally? For the ship? You've had a lot
of work.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
There's a lot more shells involved with that punt coming in.
But this is an interesting topic when it comes to
drinking in alcohol, because we make jokes all the time
about go to beatinos, and because the problem is is
and I hate it sound like it makes you sound
almost like an alcoholic, but it's like I enjoy sitting
(08:12):
down and having a Vauxa soda.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
With the fright do that. That doesn't make you sound
like an alcoholic.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, but that's where thing because Brad Pitt has come
out and he has very open with Esquire and so
he went sober after his divorce from Angelina to Joe Lee.
He was sober for roughly seven years. What then he
admitted that he had been drinking again, been really trying
to do it in moderation. And now people are saying
(08:37):
that he was actually drinking at Taylor Swift's wedding. And
that's where people were like, because he hadn't talked about it,
that's right. So when you don't talk about it, seems like, oh,
is there something going on there? Has he fallen off
the wagon? Which is like the term, But people had
noticed just kind of drinking without any explanation. So that's
(08:58):
the problem is when you're so open about your sobriety,
how open you have to be about I yes, drinking
in moderation.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's all right. I take your example about going to botinos.
The difference is we have never been sober and we're
not alcoholics. We enjoy a glass of wine, we enjoy
a vod Ca soda. If you tell the world that
you have a drinking problem, which brad did, if you
tell the world that you're in AA, if you tell
the world that Bradley Cooper is helping you, then if
somebody spots you having a drink, they're going to talk
(09:27):
about it. And on top of that, you're one of
the most famous people in the world. Nobody's reporting you
and me drinking vodka sodas to the Daily Mail. I
don't think maybe with my new fan success with my book,
or maybe with your dog story, maybe that could get
you on the cover of the post, but that we're
probably not going to end up there now. I read
(09:49):
a story yesterday about Angelina's reaction that got picked up
everywhere the Daily Mail radar and I got a call,
a very sharp call from a friend of Brat's, and
I said, what is going gone here? Because nobody caught
Brad He wasn't caught by radar, a TMZ or the
Daily Mail. He volunteered this information to esquire why did
he do that? I said, is something coming out? Is
(10:11):
a bombshell about to drop? And that's normally when a
celebrity runs to a favorite class list And they said no,
But what is happening is Brad is enjoying a glass
of wine when he goes out with friends, when he
goes out with his girlfriends, when he goes to a wedding,
He's enjoying a glass of wine. And he knows this
story will break and if he doesn't break it, if
(10:32):
we break it, it will be awful. And there's some
truth to that. Having Angelina Joli's reaction, he's not good
news for Brad Pitt, But having me break the news
that he's drinking again, then he's fell off the back wagon.
That's awful. So that's what they've got ahead of now.
They knew this story would be big, they knew it
would get reactions it has, But I still think it's
(10:52):
been managed very very well. If Brad's going to go
to Bottino's, to a restaurant and have a glass of wine,
someone's going to someone's gonna notice you at a wedding
and we're all gonna gossip about it. If you and
I Donnie were out and we saw Brad having a drink,
would be like, oh, but now he's told us he
is drinking. Now we can't see him drop down drunk.
(11:15):
But if you see him have one glass. He's already
spoken about it, so that's why he is telling this story. Okay,
moving a long. Oprah Winfrey, Oh, this is big nurse.
She's been spotted with Steedman. Oh. I was worried about Steedman.
We've not seen them together for a really long time. Effect.
I think the last time they were together was twenty nineteen.
(11:36):
I asked my photo department to look through old photographs
and find the last picture of Oprah and Stedman. The
last picture they could find, it's seven years ago, don
it that's a long time. So Oprah was having a
fortieth anniversary celebration of the Oprah Winfrey Show forty years ago.
Can you imagine, huge, huge hits. So they did it
(11:57):
in Chicago. It was at the Navy Peace They invited
all the old staff back. I have some friends who
worked on that show. They no longer live in Chicago,
but they flew in for this party and they're standing
alongside the Queen. Was not only Yale, but with Steadman.
They have a very interesting relationship. They've been together since
the eighties, since nineteen eighty six. They were gonna get married.
(12:20):
Remember they were engaged in nineteen ninety two, and then
they called off the wedding, saying they didn't actually want
to get married. They want to be together, but they
don't need that formal bond. There's been a lot of
rumors about these two. Are they a couple? Aren't they
a couple? They're together. Whatever they have works for them,
don't they. And I think as people who have had
(12:42):
our relationships judged our entire lives as gay men, we
know what it's like to have people pass judgment about
who we date. So I try to give Oprah a
little bit of grace. Here. Where are you on this? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, well, Stedman, he was almost like Mitch McConnell. Well,
you didn't really know if he was. Is he sweety?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Does he?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Is he still around? Is he still happening? Is he
breathing air?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Is he locked in monacito? Is he you know where
he is he? But here's the thing. Stedman, though, has
somehow managed to play this perfectly because he is not
just Oprah's man, and so he's just because we don't
see him, so he's just you kind of forget about them,
which I think is what he wants.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's such a telling wonderful example in celebrity couples that
you can have your own life. He's a very successful businessman.
He has a different life professionally from if I was
dating at Win, I would be her manager, I'd be
her agent. I would make sure that I was on
(13:51):
the gravy train. A lot of them do, don't they
They always get married or they always become their manager. Oh,
they're the worst managers. If you've got your spouse as
your manage those are the ones that drive me nuts
because they're not really managers, they're spouses. And my question
is if that wasn't your husband, would he be your manager, Oprah?
And the answer is no. She shouldn't hire a segment,
but it's her husband, so I sort of respect them here.
(14:13):
So Yes, although they get a lot of grief, a
lot of speculation, a lot of rumors, don't believe it,
they are together. Okay, before we get a break, stuck
her to chat in remember her Rizzo in Greece. She's
doing a really rare interview and I can't get enough
of it. What does she have to say? Darnie, where's
(14:34):
the thing?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
She's stuck her turning? She's risk she could do whatever
she wants. You want anything she wants. She's I still
find her to be one of the most beautiful, striking
women on the planet. She's just something about her. Well,
she's living in London, honey, she's over there with your family,
just living the dream. She's just having fun. But she's
(14:55):
saying she's living. She's a recluse and she's never been happier.
I love her. Oh that's all I want to be
when I get older. I just want to just leave
me alone. Just you could let me live my day,
let me do, let me drink some wine.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Do you have a bit of a recluse in you?
I want to be there.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
She's happy being there, and I love.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Eighty two years old, loving her life, doing whatever she wants.
She said her days are beautiful. She journals in bed,
she feeds her dog, she reads, just polades. She potters about.
That's a very British term, potter apad. I can spend
all day pottering abat. We love it, we love it,
we love it. Okay, we're going to take a quick
break and we will be right back. Welcome back to
(15:35):
the naughty but nice of how you're holding up, Donnie,
Can you hear me.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Myself, beauty every word I'm saying coming out.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
If I need to learn a little sign language, do
let me know. I'll learn how to say shut up
and sign shut up. And I think that's what it
is close about. Just shut up, No, sweetie, I'll learn.
I love you. Okay, let's get to the pole. Last show,
he took about Brad Pitt admitting his drinking again. This
(16:03):
is a good idea, a bad idea. Brad. He's saying
it's fine. He has a couple of drinks. He knows
now he's limits, he knows he can drink too much.
He's fine, good ninety. It's a bad idea. You know,
once you admit you have a problem, you really do
have a problem. Because admitted it is a really big thing.
Many people have problems for a very long time before
they admit it. So seven years ago he knew he
(16:25):
was in serious trouble. He got sober. Now he's having
a drink again. Oh, Brad, bad idea. Hey, don't forget
to vote on today's Paul got x page at Twitter
page had naughty nice rum. Facebook page is not a
gossip and be sure to check back. Tom Rauta here
your results. And now this is so touching, so emotional,
(16:47):
so real, so raw. It is our nicest of the day.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The nice day is Kaya Gerber. She's opening up about
her brother, Presley's you know, he's struggle with a didiction
for a long time. And you know, she's kind of
cause that's a lot of people don't understand is yes,
the individual person is dealing with it, but everyone around
them also has to deal with it in some way
or the other. And Kaya is coming out saying, look,
(17:14):
something like that happens at a family, It really kind
of levels everyone. It really just puts everybody on the
same playing field of okay, now what do we do?
And you know, she said that she's proud of her
brother for confronting his struggles, especially being that it's in
the public eye. Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, hey,
(17:35):
yes I have a problem with the addiction. But yes, you
are going to see this and you are going to
now I have to relive it over and over and
everyone's judgment and she goes trying to put a lid
on something just makes the person feel like you're ashamed
of them. So for her, she's coming out she saying, look,
we're talking about it because we're proud of him for
(17:55):
dealing with it. We're not ashamed that he was an addict.
We're not ashamed that he was dealing with there. We're
actually proud that he had, you know, the gomption to
come out and talk about it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Right, She's right, you'd be proud when you're ashamed of somebody,
It doesn't make a problem go away. When you're ashamed
of yourself, that problem doesn't go away.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You got themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, you got to talk about it. And nicest of
the day. And now I noticed the day naughty, naughty.
This ugly disease that Bruce Willis has is just robbing
him of so much, including his daughter's wedding. So let
me be clear here, Bruce is not the naughtiest. It's
his health battle. So Bruce missed his daughter's wedding. He
wasn't able to attend the wedding. Heartbreaking. I'm told he's
(18:41):
now in a place where he often does not remember
people in his life. I can't imagine your big day
wanting your mom and your dad, your family around you,
maybe your dad to walk you down the aisle, and
it's just not possible. The nice thing is I'm told
everybody understands why Bruce could be there. There was no drama,
(19:01):
no falling out, just the family making the best decision
for him. It was best for him. Oh, and augh
to your stuff the day. Let's end with a moment
of rob you gotta rob, you, gonna ub you, gonna
ub you. You know what, Donnie, ten years from now,
you won't remember ninety nine percent of the truck stuff
that is troubling you right now. So ten years from now,
(19:21):
most of the things that are keeping you awake at
night right now won't matter. The doubts and the fears,
the questions, all that stuff that's rattling around your head.
I promise you, ten years from now, you will barely
remember it. What you will remember is if you were
too afraid to take a risk, if you were too
afraid to open the door, if you were too afraid
(19:42):
to give yourself permission to go for your goals. Don't
let your fear that you have right now stop you
from doing stuff that's going to change your life in
the future. Ten years from now, all these fears will
not matter. Hey, that is it for today. Thank you
so much for listening to the naughty, but Nice with
(20:04):
Rob and Donnie Show. Seriously, Donnie, thank you for being back.
We love you, were sending you all our best wishes
and thank you for having a great sense of humor
about it too. This is serious and I think with
a bit of a giggle, with a bit of a laugh,
it's easier to get through life. We love you. Hey,
We're a production of Elvis Durant and iHeartRadio. Don't forget
(20:26):
to subscribe on our Hurt Radio Apple podcast wherever you listen,
leave us a review, and remember all together Now, if
you're going to be naughty, you've got to be Let
me hear you, Donnie. Can I hear you? Nice?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
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