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August 11, 2026 20 mins

Brad Pitt is opening up about a major change in his sobriety journey, revealing he has started drinking again after seven years without alcohol. Meanwhile, Jon Hamm is trading Don Draper for diaper duty—the 55-year-old Mad Men star and his wife, Anna Osceola, 38, are expecting their first child, three years after marrying in Big Sur. And Brooke Shields is proving confidence is the best comeback, joining her daughter Grier for a playful TikTok challenge in which the 20-year-old pretended to bully her mom over her gray hair, weight and wrinkles.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Advice Shooters. Now, welcome to the Naughty but Nicia. I'm
your host, Rob Shooter, and it's Tuesday, which means that
dear friend Delamer Dixon joins the same as day.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Are you there, I am here and can I just
get like a little Marvel nerdy for a moment. Yes, okay,
So I'm going to D twenty three. That's the big
Disney event on Friday. Okay, And the word on the
street is they're going to announce the new actress to
play Storm. So if that happens, because you know, they
just announced Black Panther and if you've read the comics,

(00:44):
they are together in some of the comics. So if
they announce it, I'm calling you Rob the minute it happened,
and you gotta let the Naughties next.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
We want to break this Naughties hold on, We're going
to break this on Friday. Okay, let's jump into Today show.
What time is it? My friends? Is tea time assive
story that Brad Pitt is back off the wagon after
seven years of sobriety. Let me point out here he
was not caught in a bar having a drink. He
told this to Esquire Magazine. He's on the cover of

(01:12):
Esquire magazine. It comes out in a few days, and
he said that he was sober for seven years and
then I got back off the wagon, he confessed to
the magazine. The Oscar winner say is that he can
now have a few glasses of wine, but he can't
have a lot. He admits that he has overdone it

(01:33):
on a few occasions. This is big, big news. If
you remember, Brad's sobriety journey really started after that infamous
eraplane incident with Andrew, Lina, Jolee and the kids back
in twenty and sixteen. She made some wild accusations about him.
Ultimately he was cleared of those by the FBI, of

(01:55):
all people, but after that, he knew he had to
get help. So back in two two sixteen he started
to think about it, and then a few years later
he went to AA. He credits Bradley Cooper of all people,
for helping him get through this. He also talked about
it and this is something that I find so interesting.
The older I get, the mornings are so precious to him.

(02:17):
He loves waking up without a hangover. He likes to
wake up and feel fresh and start the day and
have all the dreams of the day ahead of you,
and if you're hungover, if you are drinking the night before,
those mornings are very very different.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
What do you think, mister, Yeah, I mean, I guess
everybody can decide for themselves what they want to do.
But I've spoken to people who have been through AA
and the things that they say is I just don't
know when to stop, and so I can't even start.
And so by saying, oh, I have a few glasses
of wine, I mean a few glasses of wine could

(02:54):
be like, oh, now I can have one shot. Oh
maybe I can have one or two beers. It's like
where is the limit? And I love that. He said
that he loves being clear headed in the morning. Rob,
you and I have gone out, we've had maybe that
one too many cattail, and you wake up the next
morning and you're like, oh did I do this? And
it's so great. The past week I haven't been drinking,

(03:15):
and just to wake up every morning ready to work,
ready to work out, It's such a great feeling. But again,
he is a grown a man, so he has to
make the decision for himself.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
He is he is also too He talked about having
suicidal thoughts. In this story, he said there was a
time when he had family issues. He didn't get into details,
but the weight of life. And this is so important
because somebody like Brad Pitt, at least on the outside,
seems to have it all. He's gorgeous, he's rich, He's

(03:48):
Brad Pitt. Like we make jokes about that, I'm not
Brad Pitt. He is. He is Brad Pitt. When he
looks in the mirror cleaning his teeth every morning, do
you know who's looking at him? Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt
is in his living room, in his bedroom, in his bathroom.
He lives with Brad Pitt. He is Brad Pitt. And
even the biggest stars in the world, even the people

(04:10):
who look like they have it all, have struggles. This
is why I try not to judge people. I try
to give them a little bit of grace. When you
meet somebody, you don't know anything about their life. Maybe
ten percent, maybe twenty if they're a really close friend,
maybe fourty or fifty if they're your best friend. But
there is a lot of stuff, a lot of information,

(04:30):
a lot of feelings that we all carry around every
single day, and we don't share them, and people then
don't know what we are going through. Brad Pitts might
be handsome and rich and famous, but he struggles with
life like you and I and I think as sad
as that is, it's also inspiring. Nobody gets a free

(04:51):
pass in life. I used to think, Gosh, if I
was a little bit more handsome, if I was just
a little bit smarter, my life would be perfect. On
the true it is, it wouldn't. Everybody struggles, so a
really revealing story. If you want to know Angelina Jolie's
reaction to this, I broke the news today just minutes
ago on my sub stag and so Robshuda dot substack

(05:14):
dot com. I hit the phones to see what Angie
thought about this. I spoke to some of her friends.
She's not surprised. She thinks Brad is who he is.
One of her friends said, she tried to warn us
about Brad for a long time, and now he is
drinking again. So I understand why people are very very
nervous about this. I want to find out what Bradley

(05:34):
Cooper thinks, but I also want to find out what
you think, which brings us to my pole question of
the day, Brad Pitt has admitted once again it was
not a reporter. This was not Radar or TMZ or
the Daily Mail. They did not catch him in a
bar drinking. He admitted to Esquire magazine in an interview
that he is drinking again after seven years of being sober.

(05:58):
Is this a good idea or a bad idea? Hey?
Go vote on our Twitter page, at X page, at
naughty nice rob at Facebook page is naughty gossip. I'm
sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. He
miss d let do you work it all?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh? I love this news. So Jon Ham is training
in mad Men's don draper for diaper duty. Now he's
fifty five years old and he and his wife Anna
are expecting their first child. So this comes three years
after they got married in Big Sur, California. So he
has left the door open to fatherhood. In twenty twenty three,

(06:38):
he said that having a family was t b D.
So he and his wife first met when he was
filming Mad Men and back in twenty fifteen, they met
each other. Took five years for them to get together,
but they finally did in twenty twenty. I actually got
to meet them at a party she was very nice, tall,

(06:59):
a sweet lag and now they're under the next chapter
of their life or entering into it with a baby
at fifty five. I mean, he's gonna have to get
in shape because running after a toddler ain't no joke.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's gonna they can get into shape. That that you
sat next to John Hamm at the was it Critics
Choice Award?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah? Yeah, the TV Critics conference many many years ago.
So I'll admit I hadn't watched mad Man. So I
sat down next to John Hamm. I was invited by
our friend who was one of the vps at Stars Publicity,
and I turned to him, saw this very handsome man
and I.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Says, oh, you're on mad Man.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
What part do you play? And he's like he's like, well,
I'm John Hamm. I play the lead. I was like, oh,
good for you. I didn't I knew that it was
an important show, but I didn't realize how big it was.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Season the first season of that show, people were still
discovering it. My best friends is the what's the VP
of publicity over there? And so I was on pretty early,
right towards the beginning. She would have screamers before we
aired on TV. We'd watch it at her house. And
I've met John many, many times through our mutual friend.
He is one handsome man. He's an old school Hollywood

(08:21):
oh and a gentleman.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, old school gentle perfect way.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's old school and he's not afraid.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
To make fun of himself, which is what makes him
so charming.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Johnham, Oh, I'm a little jealous. Okay, moving along before
I get myself into any more trouble. Nibbie leaks he's
back on the Real house Wi've sought her. So the
Real Housewives have returned for the twentieth anniversary of that franchise.
Twenty years it's been at Andy Cohen. No wonder, he's
got a beach as for five million dollars. He has
made money from that show every week for twenty years.

(08:53):
They have a Ultimate Girl's Trip. This is where they
take ladies from different franchises, put them all together, take
them Monday k very funny idea. Well, guess who made
a surprise appearance on the show. Ninni leaks. So she's
not back on the Atlanta Housewives. She had a very
troubled exit. If you remember, she alleged some really awful

(09:13):
things about Brather and Andy Cohen in a lawsuit. She
took them, she took them on. Ultimately this was settled,
It went away, the lawsuit, and now Nini's trying to
build bridges, shall we say? I think making a guest
appearance on this Ultimate Girl's Trip is a good idea.
I'm not sure she's going to be invited back yet
to the Real Housewives of Atlanta. It's tricky with these shows,

(09:37):
isn't it. Mister. You know TV better than any reporter
journalists that I know. I'm a little past the Housewives.
There was a minute when it was just so fabulous.
That's all we talked about. If we bumped into a
housewife at a party, it was so much fun. Now
they're sort of like a dimer dozen. There's so many
of them. There's so many new ones that I don't
really know, and they talk about it like it was

(09:58):
ten years ago. I didn't even watch this Girls Trip?
Did you watch it?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I didn't watch Girls Trip because of course it's all
about Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion right now. So we
just had part one, and as you've said a million times,
this is really when you prove if you deserve your
peach for the upcoming season, so we'll see. I mean,
people think that Duusidora gave good TV. They feel Kay

(10:24):
Michelle did, so if the other girls don't live up
to it, there may be an opportunity for Nini Leeks.
And I think that people have always wanted her back,
even if she comes back in a smaller role like
Cynthia Bailey has in the past year. No real peach,
but you're a friend to the ladies, and as we know,

(10:44):
people still clamor for those original casts. Over at ebony
dot com, we've got the twenty best moments in Real
Housewives history, and a lot of them are from Real
Housewives of Atlanta. Go check it out.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'll check it out.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But I think she's just taking those baby steps because,
as we know, if you want all your other businesses
outside of Real Housewives to work, you need to be
on Real Housewives.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, it's the anchor, isn't it. A lot of people
forget this. They get on TV shows and they think
they're selling all this stuff because people love them. No,
they love the show and if you lose that anchor,
the rest of that business falls apart. So Nini needs
this show back. But god, I admit I think the
show needs Nini. There's not been another Nini, really hasn't. Okay,

(11:30):
moving along, a celebrity is apologizing for praising Perez Hilton.
We've been reporting this on the show throughout the week.
He is still in hospital. An attempted suicide attempt has
now been confirmed by his family. Who am I talking about?
What's going on? Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Well that would you Jared Plecki? Okay, So basically he's
apologized after supporting Perez Hilton, who had a very traumatic
episode on Live Social and he's been hospitalized because of it.
So basically he said, you know, surrounding you with love
and support. But the reason why this received backlash is

(12:12):
because if you think back to the original Perez Hilton,
before he got thin and did all these TV shows,
he was pretty mean to celebrities. He was awful. He
started his site, and he basically not only just mean
to celebrities. What he'd say, he would actually, and we're

(12:33):
going to say allegedly, he would take photos from photo
sites without paying for them and use them to support
his stories, which is just something you don't do these
You know, photographers are working hard. They need to get
paid you have to go through a subscription service, which
is what we do, what we've always done, or get them,

(12:53):
you know, from the different networks or parties that are
giving them to you.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
He was shady. He was shady a marriage. Yeah, so
the mechanics of the business is awful, but it's the
fact that he just said cruel things like we just
a vicious and drawing sexual innuendum on people's faces and
giving them nicknames. I hate nicknames. I hate people that

(13:19):
make up nicknames. It's just so insulting and so demeaning.
That was Perez. He did it mistake.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, so basically Jared, you know, deleted it and said
I do not stand for or support any of the
actions that I just found out that he has committed.
He said he never really went to his site, didn't
really pay attention to Brez Hilton in that way, which
is why you've got to do your homework before you
do on someone. And he just came from a belief

(13:47):
of grace and forgiveness. I think Jared thought, oh, here's
somebody who had a breakdown, let's support him, let's say something.
But again, like I said, as we do as journalists
before we write something, we have to check it.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Check out, check it out, check it out. And I
think both can be true. I think Perez can be
a terrible human being who has said some awful things
about people, and I think you can also feel sorry
for him. That's where I am. I want him to
be waking.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
We did a show with him once, we did, and
he knows a lot of information. He's he can speak
in front of a crowd. He he's smart, but he
was very cruel back in the day and very very cool.
Just changing your appearance does not necessarily make you a
better person.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
So it's a real big debate we're all having. Guy
was on my friend Maureen show yesterday. We were talking
about Perez. I've known him for twenty five years. I
knew him when he was Marrio, before he even became Perez.
It's complicated. You do not want people to suffer, but
you don't want to reward bad behavior. And that's the
dilemma that so many people, journalists, fans, everybody is feeling.

(14:59):
A bad Peres is that he has a dark, dark past,
and to forget that because something awful happened is not
being true. For both can be true. We can wish him. Well,
we can wish him the best. We can show him mystery,
the grace that he never showed anybody else. Okay, we're

(15:22):
going to take a quick break and we will be
right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but nine Shami
hostrom shooting with my dear friend Miss d Hey, let's
get to the polls. I love this story. Martha Stewart
is not backing down after accusing Megan Markle of gossiping
about the king at a dinner party. They were both
at RD Who side do you want? Who do you believe?

(15:43):
Are your team Megan? Are your team Martha? Eighty per
team Martha? This is so gangster here. Even if you
like Megan Markle, you gotta admit Martha Stewart is many things.
She's not a liar, She's not she she's got she's
got no reason to not tell the true. And so
this one began picking fights. Having fights not a great idea,

(16:06):
but having to fight with Martha Stewart is stupid because
as we know, mised it. She said New York Gangster.
She is fantastic, done best, she's the og. Don't best
with Martha Stewart. I don't forget to vote on today's
poul get about x page at Twitter page at naughty
nice warm Facebook pages naughty gossip and be sure to

(16:27):
check back to Marrow to hear your results. And now
it's time for a very silly but lovely nicest of the.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well, our nicest of the day is Brookshields because she's
proving that confidence is the best comeback. So now she
is doing this TikTok challenge with her daughter called the
bully Mom Challenge. Listen, I'm gonna try it with my mom.
It'll last and seconds me saying bully mom, her punching

(16:57):
me in the face. No, so the twenty year old
pretended to be a bully and fired insults at Brookshields.
But here were Brook's answers.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
When she pointed out Brook's gray hairs, bro calmly replied,
it's a sign of maturity. Criticized about her wrinkled she said,
because I'm worried about the world being filled with people
like you. How her funniest response came when her daughter
called her annoying. She said, well, I'm really famous, so
I guess it's worked out okay, And of course she

(17:30):
looks gorgeously quick if we all look like that at
sixty one, we will be very very happy.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I'll take it now. She's our nicest, nicest of the day.
I love sense of hum So there's also a real
lesson in this. When somebody bullishs you, brush it off.
Watch Brook. I know it's not real. I know it's
a bit of a joke. I know this is a gimmick,
but there's actually quite a lot of truth in this.
When somebody comes at you, brush it off, shake it off,

(17:59):
like Brook. And now our naughtyous of the day, naughty, naughty,
naughty Martha Stewart, who I love. I've just complimented that
because I'm naughtyous of the day. Because all I want
Martha to do is talk to give us an update
on Megan Markle. Well, Martha to do that. Instead, she
dyed a hair pink, So Martha off the middle at
the middle of this amazing moment with Meg and Markle.

(18:22):
She's not said a word, but she did, or at
least her hairdresser, Chris Appleton, posted a picture of her
with pink hair, saying, a good thing. You were so shady,
Martha Stewart. You are so brilliant, You are so so inspiring.
This is how you handlett drama. You put yourself a
great wig on, or you put a little bit of
color in your hair. You lack fabulous and you keep

(18:43):
your mouth shut. Martha knows a picture. It's worth a
thousand words. Martha, You're a naughtyous of the day in
the most loving Wai. Let's end with a moment of Rob.
Stop waiting for permission. You do this mystery, so do I.
You don't need everybody to understand you next day. You
don't need their approval or their encouragement, and you certainly

(19:03):
don't need their permission. Sometimes the biggest step forward happens
when you stop explaining yourself and you start trusting yourself instead.
Growth is always going to make people uncomfortable. Your job
is not to make those people comfortable. Your job is
to become the person that you know you are capable

(19:24):
of being. Once again, stop waiting for permission. It's not
going to come grab what you want yourself. The only
person that needs to give you permission is you. Hey,
that is it for today. Thank you so much for
listening to The Naughty but Nice with Rob and Missus
d Show or a production of Elvis Duran and iHeartRadio.

(19:47):
Check out my substack robshooter dot substack dot com, and
my novel It Started with a Whisper, is available right
now on Amazon. If you've not checked it out, please
think about doing so, and remember all too get. And
now let me hear you singing along. If you're going
to be long ting, you gotta because you see loveless

(20:09):
hipp It's not even a nice fit.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
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