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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sure, it's time nice and low and low and low.
Welcome to the naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host,
Rob Shooter. Misty is off to day, but don't worry.
We've got a ton of gossip news celebrity dish to
get till. Let's jump right in, my friends, What time
is it it is? Let me hear you singing along?
(00:30):
It is tea time, he sund marvelous. Okay, big story.
At the top of the show, Sir Travis Kelcey is
struggling with Taylor Swift's security world. It really is a
world around so while they are preparing to get married,
they're gonna get married in just a few weeks. Insideer say,
part of the superstars lifestyle that still overwhelms him, something
(00:53):
he's still getting used to. I don't know if he
ever will is the non stop security operation surrounding every move.
Sources say that Taylor's daily life functions like quote a
military operation, complete with armored SUVs, armed guards, advanced teams,
private entrances, and constant surveillance. She's the biggest star in
(01:17):
the world. The security around her is almost presidential. While
Travis understands why these extremes measures this extreme protection is necessary.
He gets it. Friends say, the environment still feels very
unnatural to him. It also, let me remind you, Travis,
if you're listening allallallo, it feels unnatural to Taylor. Sources say, quote,
(01:43):
he wants to be the one protecting her. Ah, that
is so sweet, that is so beautiful. You want to
protect your partner. You want to be the person who's
providing the protection. They go on to add quote, but
it's strange when security teams are ten steps ahead so
as they plan their wedding. So they do. They're planning
(02:05):
the wedding right now. Travis has become even more protective
about Taylor than he ever has been before. But he
also knows that he is not a professional bodyguard. He's
a big, burly, strapping guy. He knows how to look
after himself. However, in this world, in the world of
Taylor Swift, in the world of celebrity that she really
(02:27):
really does own at the moment, it's hard to think
of a celebrity as big as her that isn't a
head of state, that isn't a prime minister or a
president or a royal. Taylor Swift has security now, she
does a really good job, and I've seen this firsthand.
She does a really good job of keeping her security
low key. However, if you saw her recently at the
(02:48):
Knicks games at Madison Square Garden, if you look behind her,
if you see the photographs of her sitting on the
front roun, behind her, our security people to her left
and right, our security. If she goes to the theater,
she doesn't just buy two seats, she buys four, five
seats around her, behind her, in front of her, to
the left, to the right. There is literally a bubble
(03:10):
around Taylor Swift. And that is because of her level
of fame and power and what a what an incredible
target she is. It's horrible to say it, but you
have to be really, really careful. I've worked with celebrities.
I've been around Jennifer Lopez, John bon Jovi, Alicia Keys,
Jessica Simpson at the peak of her success, and we
(03:31):
even Paris Hilton, and there was security around, but not
the level that Taylor Swift has. Their celebrity is big,
it is not Taylor Swift level. There is stuff that
is going on there that we do not know, we
won't discuss on the show, but private stuff around Taylor.
That just makes you wonder what sort of world we
live in. It's not a very very nice thought to
(03:53):
have that she needs this much protection, but she does.
And terrible things happened to very, very famous people, and
so this is a constant in her life. It's a
fact of her life. It's something that Travis is struggling with,
but something that he knows is real and something that
he is trying to make peace with. I'm not sure
(04:18):
he ever will. Jenna Bush once told me that she
had secret service as the daughter of a former former president,
but it's just too much. She had to turn her
garage into a literal room with monitors and TV for
the secret Service. And it was her children who asked her, Mommy,
who are all those strange men in suits and some
(04:39):
glasses that keep following us around? And so that's what
made her change her thoughts or the way she approached security.
It is such a complicated issue that thankfully most of
us do not have to worry about. Taylor. Does We
talk all the time about the cost of fame, don't we?
I wouldn't want it. I saw the Michael movie just
(04:59):
a few nights go. I love the movie, but the
amount of security around him and the life that he led.
It makes you wonder do you want that? I know
I don't. I love going out with my friends. I
love being spur in the moment. I love getting a
text twenty minutes later, I'm in a tax So he's
shoot in downtown to go and meet a pal for drinks.
Taylor's life is more complicated than that, and they say
(05:21):
that's where there's a little bit of tension. Travi's is
wildly in the moment. He likes spur of the moment.
He likes to wake up with no plans for the
day and suddenly do something fun. And Taylor likes that too. However,
she can't always do it. Her security team need to
(05:43):
know in advance. If ever, you've watched a movie about
the president, you know that they can't just get up
and go for a drive. Secret Service won't allow it. Now,
Taylor does not have secret Service. She has her own
security team, but she does listen to them. That's what
you have. Then, if you're gonna pay all that money,
if you're going to hire an expert and not listen
to them, why have them? There are certain realities ugly
(06:05):
dark realities with being as famous as Taylor Swift. And
she's made peace with it, or she's at least learned
to live with her. A family have too. It's not
just her, it's her family that are involved in this.
But now she's brought in a guy, now, someone that
she's going to marry. They are going to be a
mister and missus. They are going to be a married
(06:27):
couple in a few weeks. And Travis is a guy's guy.
He likes to be in charge. She's an alpha male.
He's a big, burly guy. He wants to protect his
wife to be and she will be very very soon. However,
he can't. He can't do it by himself. It's too
big a job. They need professionals and that is something
(06:49):
that he is struggling with, which brings us to our
whole question of the day. Travis is still struggling with
Taylor Swift's massive security detail. Does he does he just
need to get over it? What do you think is
a easy as that when people take you just to
get over it, It's really hard to do that. What
(07:10):
do you think here though, that there's no other choice?
He does not want her vulnerable. Let me be really
clear here. Nobody around Travis is telling me, nobody is
suggesting that he wants to get rid of her security
non He's just trying to figure out how he fits
into that picture. He wants to protect her, he wants
to be the traditional man in the relationship, and that
(07:32):
is not possible when you're dating, when you're about to
marry somebody like Taylor Swift. Hey, go vote on our
Twitter page. It's interesting today, isn't it. It's a really
interesting question, something that we don't think about. Thankfully. Once again,
very few of us, very very few of us, even popstars,
have that type of fame that Taylor Swift have, So
it's almost unimaginable, isn't it. I feel really secure walking
(07:53):
around New York. I really do. I feel totally safe.
But I'm not a celebrity. I'm certainly not Taylor Swift.
Hey go vote on at Twitter page and naughty nice
rab her Facebook page is naught a yossip and sure
to check back to Amrota here your results. I came
moving along. Even Mendus, who was very private, is keeping
it real with a little relatable travel moment. So Eva
(08:15):
had fans smiling after she shared a candid travel video
that accidentally revealed a little bit of a fashion mishap.
I think we could say, first of all, I'm so
surprised she's posting these videos. She's so private. But she
did explain that while she travels. When she travels, she
has multiple bags. Now, followers noticed what appeared to be
(08:36):
a bra, a bra carefully wrapped around one of the
handles of her purse, and instead of criticism, this sparked
a really playful conversation about what do you travel with?
My sisters tell me it is very, very common that
if they travel, they might have a spare bra with them.
Some people have a spare pair of underpants underware in
(08:59):
their Why do you travel with? I always have my inhaler.
I have asthma, so I always have my inhaler. I
always have my phone, I always have my wallet. I
don't really care. Oh, I get dry lips all the time,
so I'd love a chapstick. I do love a chapsick.
What do you travel with? I love this. I love
that it just popped up. It just goes to show you,
(09:19):
doesn't it. When you post the video. If you actually
look closely at the video, it tells you so much.
I in the mornings. Now I do tiktoks throughout the day.
It's really helped me sell my book and really attract
a new audience for the show. It's helped the show
to keep growing. I didn't believe it at first. My
publisher told me going on Good Morning America and the
Today Show, it's all very nice, but it doesn't sell
(09:41):
books like social media. I thought, nonsense. He was right.
I've sold more books on this podcast. I'm doing other
people's podcasts and YouTube shows than I have doing traditional media.
Just a few weeks ago, Vanity Fair did that very
controversial profile on me where they give me a black eye.
Did you see that picture? It's out rageous. In the
(10:04):
photograph it looks like I have a black eye. The
story's not so nice either. However, it's validly fair. It's
one of the biggest magazines in the world. I thought
i'd sell a few thousand books. It didn't translate into sales.
TikTok podcasting, doing substack that's how you sell your books,
and that's how you sell your stuff, And so I
(10:25):
think it's so interesting now if you look closely at
people's videos, they do tell you stuff I'm getting so
many dms when I don't brush my hair, or yesterday
I was wearing a shirt. I think I had a
little bit of chicken salad on. So embarrassing, isn't it.
But I think the more real you are are on
those videos, the more people talk about them and like them.
Even Mendus, I like you. Okay, I did mention it
(10:47):
a moment ago. But let's get into this. The Michael
Jackson bio pic is now gonna be soon the biggest
bio pic of all time. So it's hit nearly eight
hundred million. The biggest by a pick is Bohemian Rhapsody,
The Queen the Freddie Mercury Story that's about nine hundred million,
so it's about hundred million away. That's a lot of money. However,
(11:10):
this movie has not yet been released in Japan, and
Japan is a massive market for Michael Jackson, so it's
not going anywhere around the world. And we had to
add a few more markets, including Japan, a huge market,
and so this could go on to make that one
hundred million pretty fast. I'm told the movie is terrific.
If it isn't exactly true, al it doesn't lie. It
(11:33):
just eracist stuff. It feels to me as if it's
a dating profile, where all you put on is the
positive stuff, don't you If you're going to go on
a dating profile or a CV, if you're writing your
resume for a new job, you just put on all
the great stuff. And there's so many career highlights in
Michael's life that's enough to sustain a movie for two hours.
But there's also a lot of complicated stuff. They just
(11:54):
don't touch it. They get a little close to plastic surgery.
Is that actually going there? I'm a little bit close
to his affection to children, But they tread very carefully
on that for all the obvious reasons. And so I
loved it, but it was fantasy. I'm aware of how
complicated he is. I didn't have those complicated feelings when
(12:17):
I sat there. Then I sat there and I loved
the music. I love the costumes, I love the dancing,
I love the showbiz of it. The personal story that's difficult,
And I was thinking afterwards, can you separate art from
the person? Can you really appreciate someone's work if you
know they're a terrible person. The old me used to
(12:38):
be pretty good at doing that at separating get Barbara
Streisand is a very difficult person, but she's got a
voice of an angel. Maybe there's popstars out there who
you don't agree with politically, maybe that has turned you off.
Can you separate it? Or is it one package? Now?
If you're a housewife, if you're a reality star, there's
(12:59):
nothing to say the work is used. If you don't
like the person, you're not gonna like the work. Because
the Kardashians, what do they do? They're famous for being famous.
If you don't like him, if you don't like the Kardashians,
you can't say you like her work because they are
the same thing. Somebody like Michael Jackson can put out
great records and be a terrible person. Both can be true.
I wonder what you think? Can you separate? Let me know? Okay,
(13:23):
this story is caused such a controversy, so I really
want to get into it. Meghan Markle is quote using
carrying the Kids to sell a jam. That's the headline
you're going to see. So what's going on here is
Meghan is once again she's blurring the lines between royal
life and promoting her brand. This time it's with jam.
So in a new promotional clip for her lifestyle company
(13:43):
as Ever. Meghan, there's a weird name, isn't it as Ever?
It sort of sounds dismissive. It's like, Oh, I'm going
to be brilliant and you're like, yeah, whatever. It feels
like that, doesn't it like whatever? But it's called as Ever.
So Meghan openly references her family's loves for her product,
mark the first time she has personally used the husband, Harry,
and the children as part of a branded marketing push. Now,
(14:06):
in the past, we've seen glimpses of her family online
and often when she's selling stuff. This is the first
time she's actually directly linked her Royal family image to
commercial sales. What she says is Harry's favorite jam is
the raspberry, I like the apricot, Lily likes this. I
think here that this is where she's going to go.
(14:27):
She wants this company to be a success. She wants
to talk about her family. People do this in a
world today when we have presidents selling bibles or phones,
those lines have been blurred A long time ago. The
Royal family, William and Caid their children often pop upon
(14:47):
their social media. The difference is they're not selling us
a product, although you could argue they're selling us the
Royal family. That's the product that they're selling. And so
what do you think about this? I know on my
Ta tuk, on my social media, I know that people
want an insight into me and what I think. But
I also plug my books. I do use it. It
(15:08):
feels to me as if the outraged at Megan. I
do get it. I do get what people are really angry,
but it seems larger than the reality. Saying your husband
loves your strawberry jam shouldn't be that controversial. So I
think something else is going on here. What do you think? Okay,
we're going to take a quick break and we will
be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice
(15:34):
on your House run true to Hey, let's get to
the polls. I love. There's nothing that we cannot discuss
on this show. Even if we disagree with each other,
we can have a wonderful discussion. I'm so grateful for that. Okay,
last poell, we talked about Travis and Taylor turning Madison
Square Garden into their personal date playground. They were so adorable.
(15:54):
There was a young kid there, a young boy who
really was excited about seeing Travis. I don't think he
knew who Taylor was. He's a foot a fan and
Travis didn't see him. Taylor did and she pointed him
out and they did take herselfie. It was a lovely
moment orchestrated put together by Taylor Swift like she was
a publicist. It's just beautiful that questions though, who would
you be more excited to see Taylor or Travis? Eighty
(16:15):
percent of Taylor. We are the nice show. I'm with you.
I didn't even know who he was until now. I
think I like him, but until he dated Taylor. We
love celebrities. Here were not a sports show. Hey, go
vote on today's Paul. Go to our Twitter page had
Nady nice rab Our facebook page is Naughdi Gossip and
(16:36):
be sure to check out mar Bra Water. Here your
results and now now it's time for our nicest of
the day. All my nicest of the day Kendall Jenna
and Jacob ed lore D. I think I'm pronouncing that right.
He's so handsome and she's so gorgeous. So the two
were spotted looking cozy during a romantic dinner dinner date
(16:56):
in Montecito, California. So they're back from Hawaii. They are
now carrying on their relationship. They were very affectionate. Oh,
people say they were so cute together. Witnesses claim that
Kendall wrapped her arm around Jacob and even played with
his hair as the two of them had dinner late
into the night with friends. Now they're romance was really
(17:17):
a little bit suggested by Kylie Jenna, her sister. The
two of them have flirted, they liked each other, but
Kendall wasn't going to go there, and Kyla said, do it,
do it, go and find some happiness. I like these
two as a couple. They are the real deal and
it doesn't hurt that they're both gor just gorgeous. Gorgeous.
Now I naughty is the day? Naughty, naughty, naughty. This
is shocking. The former Prince Andrew's crude pickup lines have
(17:41):
been exposed. So the former Royal Andrew Man Batton Windsor
is now facing fresh humiliation after shocking Aggllegations about his
behavior towards women have resurfaced. My friend who's the royal
author Andrew Lowney. He has a new paperback version out
of his York book and in the paperback version, and
he's expanded it. He's added to the reporting, and he's
(18:02):
added some very vulgar pickup lines that Andrew used to use.
One of them was saying to ladies, quote, how does
it feel having the royal? You know what? Rubbing against
your thigh? An extraordinary sense of entitlement? Just gross? Ugh.
(18:24):
These Andrew's stories creep me out. And what is the day?
Let's end with a moment of rub. You get a rub,
you get a rob, you get a rob. Peace doesn't
happen by accident. It doesn't. The most peaceful people I
know didn't become that way by luck. They made peace
a priority every single day. They decided that peace was
(18:45):
going to be the number one thing a priority every
single day. They learned to walk away from drama, to
protect their energy, to stop giving their time to things
that drained them. Peace comes from small choices. Getting enough
red that's an easy choice. Saying no without guilt that's
more difficult. But you can do it. Forgiving people who
(19:07):
will never apologize, I can do that. I can move
on and creating space to breathe. That's so important. Find
your happy space, find out space a peaceful life does
not mean a perfect life. Let's be clear. It means
you no longer allow chaos to control your mind. The
people who seem calm and grounded work really hard for
(19:28):
that feeling, and once they found peace, everything changes. Find
peace and watch everything change. Make it a priority. Hey,
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(20:32):
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Sure, it's time nice and low and low and low.
Welcome to the naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host,
Rob Shooter. Misty is off to day, but don't worry.
We've got a ton of gossip news celebrity dish to
get till. Let's jump right in, my friends, What time
is it it is? Let me hear you singing along?
(00:30):
It is tea time, he sund marvelous. Okay, big story.
At the top of the show, Sir Travis Kelcey is
struggling with Taylor Swift's security world. It really is a
world around so while they are preparing to get married,
they're gonna get married in just a few weeks. Insideer say,
part of the superstars lifestyle that still overwhelms him, something
(00:53):
he's still getting used to. I don't know if he
ever will is the non stop security operation surrounding every move.
Sources say that Taylor's daily life functions like quote a
military operation, complete with armored SUVs, armed guards, advanced teams,
private entrances, and constant surveillance. She's the biggest star in
(01:17):
the world. The security around her is almost presidential. While
Travis understands why these extremes measures this extreme protection is necessary.
He gets it. Friends say, the environment still feels very
unnatural to him. It also, let me remind you, Travis,
if you're listening allallallo, it feels unnatural to Taylor. Sources say, quote,
(01:43):
he wants to be the one protecting her. Ah, that
is so sweet, that is so beautiful. You want to
protect your partner. You want to be the person who's
providing the protection. They go on to add quote, but
it's strange when security teams are ten steps ahead so
as they plan their wedding. So they do. They're planning
(02:05):
the wedding right now. Travis has become even more protective
about Taylor than he ever has been before. But he
also knows that he is not a professional bodyguard. He's
a big, burly, strapping guy. He knows how to look
after himself. However, in this world, in the world of
Taylor Swift, in the world of celebrity that she really
(02:27):
really does own at the moment, it's hard to think
of a celebrity as big as her that isn't a
head of state, that isn't a prime minister or a
president or a royal. Taylor Swift has security now, she
does a really good job, and I've seen this firsthand.
She does a really good job of keeping her security
low key. However, if you saw her recently at the
(02:48):
Knicks games at Madison Square Garden, if you look behind her,
if you see the photographs of her sitting on the
front roun, behind her, our security people to her left
and right, our security. If she goes to the theater,
she doesn't just buy two seats, she buys four, five
seats around her, behind her, in front of her, to
the left, to the right. There is literally a bubble
(03:10):
around Taylor Swift. And that is because of her level
of fame and power and what a what an incredible
target she is. It's horrible to say it, but you
have to be really, really careful. I've worked with celebrities.
I've been around Jennifer Lopez, John bon Jovi, Alicia Keys,
Jessica Simpson at the peak of her success, and we
(03:31):
even Paris Hilton, and there was security around, but not
the level that Taylor Swift has. Their celebrity is big,
it is not Taylor Swift level. There is stuff that
is going on there that we do not know, we
won't discuss on the show, but private stuff around Taylor.
That just makes you wonder what sort of world we
live in. It's not a very very nice thought to
(03:53):
have that she needs this much protection, but she does.
And terrible things happened to very, very famous people, and
so this is a constant in her life. It's a
fact of her life. It's something that Travis is struggling with,
but something that he knows is real and something that
he is trying to make peace with. I'm not sure
(04:18):
he ever will. Jenna Bush once told me that she
had secret service as the daughter of a former former president,
but it's just too much. She had to turn her
garage into a literal room with monitors and TV for
the secret Service. And it was her children who asked her, Mommy,
who are all those strange men in suits and some
(04:39):
glasses that keep following us around? And so that's what
made her change her thoughts or the way she approached security.
It is such a complicated issue that thankfully most of
us do not have to worry about. Taylor. Does We
talk all the time about the cost of fame, don't we?
I wouldn't want it. I saw the Michael movie just
(04:59):
a few nights go. I love the movie, but the
amount of security around him and the life that he led.
It makes you wonder do you want that? I know
I don't. I love going out with my friends. I
love being spur in the moment. I love getting a
text twenty minutes later, I'm in a tax So he's
shoot in downtown to go and meet a pal for drinks.
Taylor's life is more complicated than that, and they say
(05:21):
that's where there's a little bit of tension. Travi's is
wildly in the moment. He likes spur of the moment.
He likes to wake up with no plans for the
day and suddenly do something fun. And Taylor likes that too. However,
she can't always do it. Her security team need to
(05:43):
know in advance. If ever, you've watched a movie about
the president, you know that they can't just get up
and go for a drive. Secret Service won't allow it. Now,
Taylor does not have secret Service. She has her own
security team, but she does listen to them. That's what
you have. Then, if you're gonna pay all that money,
if you're going to hire an expert and not listen
to them, why have them? There are certain realities ugly
(06:05):
dark realities with being as famous as Taylor Swift. And
she's made peace with it, or she's at least learned
to live with her. A family have too. It's not
just her, it's her family that are involved in this.
But now she's brought in a guy, now, someone that
she's going to marry. They are going to be a
mister and missus. They are going to be a married
(06:27):
couple in a few weeks. And Travis is a guy's guy.
He likes to be in charge. She's an alpha male.
He's a big, burly guy. He wants to protect his
wife to be and she will be very very soon. However,
he can't. He can't do it by himself. It's too
big a job. They need professionals and that is something
(06:49):
that he is struggling with, which brings us to our
whole question of the day. Travis is still struggling with
Taylor Swift's massive security detail. Does he does he just
need to get over it? What do you think is
a easy as that when people take you just to
get over it, It's really hard to do that. What
(07:10):
do you think here though, that there's no other choice?
He does not want her vulnerable. Let me be really
clear here. Nobody around Travis is telling me, nobody is
suggesting that he wants to get rid of her security
non He's just trying to figure out how he fits
into that picture. He wants to protect her, he wants
to be the traditional man in the relationship, and that
(07:32):
is not possible when you're dating, when you're about to
marry somebody like Taylor Swift. Hey, go vote on our
Twitter page. It's interesting today, isn't it. It's a really
interesting question, something that we don't think about. Thankfully. Once again,
very few of us, very very few of us, even popstars,
have that type of fame that Taylor Swift have, So
it's almost unimaginable, isn't it. I feel really secure walking
(07:53):
around New York. I really do. I feel totally safe.
But I'm not a celebrity. I'm certainly not Taylor Swift.
Hey go vote on at Twitter page and naughty nice
rab her Facebook page is naught a yossip and sure
to check back to Amrota here your results. I came
moving along. Even Mendus, who was very private, is keeping
it real with a little relatable travel moment. So Eva
(08:15):
had fans smiling after she shared a candid travel video
that accidentally revealed a little bit of a fashion mishap.
I think we could say, first of all, I'm so
surprised she's posting these videos. She's so private. But she
did explain that while she travels. When she travels, she
has multiple bags. Now, followers noticed what appeared to be
(08:36):
a bra, a bra carefully wrapped around one of the
handles of her purse, and instead of criticism, this sparked
a really playful conversation about what do you travel with?
My sisters tell me it is very, very common that
if they travel, they might have a spare bra with them.
Some people have a spare pair of underpants underware in
(08:59):
their Why do you travel with? I always have my inhaler.
I have asthma, so I always have my inhaler. I
always have my phone, I always have my wallet. I
don't really care. Oh, I get dry lips all the time,
so I'd love a chapstick. I do love a chapsick.
What do you travel with? I love this. I love
that it just popped up. It just goes to show you,
(09:19):
doesn't it. When you post the video. If you actually
look closely at the video, it tells you so much.
I in the mornings. Now I do tiktoks throughout the day.
It's really helped me sell my book and really attract
a new audience for the show. It's helped the show
to keep growing. I didn't believe it at first. My
publisher told me going on Good Morning America and the
Today Show, it's all very nice, but it doesn't sell
(09:41):
books like social media. I thought, nonsense. He was right.
I've sold more books on this podcast. I'm doing other
people's podcasts and YouTube shows than I have doing traditional media.
Just a few weeks ago, Vanity Fair did that very
controversial profile on me where they give me a black eye.
Did you see that picture? It's out rageous. In the
(10:04):
photograph it looks like I have a black eye. The
story's not so nice either. However, it's validly fair. It's
one of the biggest magazines in the world. I thought
i'd sell a few thousand books. It didn't translate into sales.
TikTok podcasting, doing substack that's how you sell your books,
and that's how you sell your stuff, And so I
(10:25):
think it's so interesting now if you look closely at
people's videos, they do tell you stuff I'm getting so
many dms when I don't brush my hair, or yesterday
I was wearing a shirt. I think I had a
little bit of chicken salad on. So embarrassing, isn't it.
But I think the more real you are are on
those videos, the more people talk about them and like them.
Even Mendus, I like you. Okay, I did mention it
(10:47):
a moment ago. But let's get into this. The Michael
Jackson bio pic is now gonna be soon the biggest
bio pic of all time. So it's hit nearly eight
hundred million. The biggest by a pick is Bohemian Rhapsody,
The Queen the Freddie Mercury Story that's about nine hundred million,
so it's about hundred million away. That's a lot of money. However,
(11:10):
this movie has not yet been released in Japan, and
Japan is a massive market for Michael Jackson, so it's
not going anywhere around the world. And we had to
add a few more markets, including Japan, a huge market,
and so this could go on to make that one
hundred million pretty fast. I'm told the movie is terrific.
If it isn't exactly true, al it doesn't lie. It
(11:33):
just eracist stuff. It feels to me as if it's
a dating profile, where all you put on is the
positive stuff, don't you If you're going to go on
a dating profile or a CV, if you're writing your
resume for a new job, you just put on all
the great stuff. And there's so many career highlights in
Michael's life that's enough to sustain a movie for two hours.
But there's also a lot of complicated stuff. They just
(11:54):
don't touch it. They get a little close to plastic surgery.
Is that actually going there? I'm a little bit close
to his affection to children, But they tread very carefully
on that for all the obvious reasons. And so I
loved it, but it was fantasy. I'm aware of how
complicated he is. I didn't have those complicated feelings when
(12:17):
I sat there. Then I sat there and I loved
the music. I love the costumes, I love the dancing,
I love the showbiz of it. The personal story that's difficult,
And I was thinking afterwards, can you separate art from
the person? Can you really appreciate someone's work if you
know they're a terrible person. The old me used to
(12:38):
be pretty good at doing that at separating get Barbara
Streisand is a very difficult person, but she's got a
voice of an angel. Maybe there's popstars out there who
you don't agree with politically, maybe that has turned you off.
Can you separate it? Or is it one package? Now?
If you're a housewife, if you're a reality star, there's
(12:59):
nothing to say the work is used. If you don't
like the person, you're not gonna like the work. Because
the Kardashians, what do they do? They're famous for being famous.
If you don't like him, if you don't like the Kardashians,
you can't say you like her work because they are
the same thing. Somebody like Michael Jackson can put out
great records and be a terrible person. Both can be true.
I wonder what you think? Can you separate? Let me know? Okay,
(13:23):
this story is caused such a controversy, so I really
want to get into it. Meghan Markle is quote using
carrying the Kids to sell a jam. That's the headline
you're going to see. So what's going on here is
Meghan is once again she's blurring the lines between royal
life and promoting her brand. This time it's with jam.
So in a new promotional clip for her lifestyle company
(13:43):
as Ever. Meghan, there's a weird name, isn't it as Ever?
It sort of sounds dismissive. It's like, Oh, I'm going
to be brilliant and you're like, yeah, whatever. It feels
like that, doesn't it like whatever? But it's called as Ever.
So Meghan openly references her family's loves for her product,
mark the first time she has personally used the husband, Harry,
and the children as part of a branded marketing push. Now,
(14:06):
in the past, we've seen glimpses of her family online
and often when she's selling stuff. This is the first
time she's actually directly linked her Royal family image to
commercial sales. What she says is Harry's favorite jam is
the raspberry, I like the apricot, Lily likes this. I
think here that this is where she's going to go.
(14:27):
She wants this company to be a success. She wants
to talk about her family. People do this in a
world today when we have presidents selling bibles or phones,
those lines have been blurred A long time ago. The
Royal family, William and Caid their children often pop upon
(14:47):
their social media. The difference is they're not selling us
a product, although you could argue they're selling us the
Royal family. That's the product that they're selling. And so
what do you think about this? I know on my
Ta tuk, on my social media, I know that people
want an insight into me and what I think. But
I also plug my books. I do use it. It
(15:08):
feels to me as if the outraged at Megan. I
do get it. I do get what people are really angry,
but it seems larger than the reality. Saying your husband
loves your strawberry jam shouldn't be that controversial. So I
think something else is going on here. What do you think? Okay,
we're going to take a quick break and we will
be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice
(15:34):
on your House run true to Hey, let's get to
the polls. I love. There's nothing that we cannot discuss
on this show. Even if we disagree with each other,
we can have a wonderful discussion. I'm so grateful for that. Okay,
last poell, we talked about Travis and Taylor turning Madison
Square Garden into their personal date playground. They were so adorable.
(15:54):
There was a young kid there, a young boy who
really was excited about seeing Travis. I don't think he
knew who Taylor was. He's a foot a fan and
Travis didn't see him. Taylor did and she pointed him
out and they did take herselfie. It was a lovely
moment orchestrated put together by Taylor Swift like she was
a publicist. It's just beautiful that questions though, who would
you be more excited to see Taylor or Travis? Eighty
(16:15):
percent of Taylor. We are the nice show. I'm with you.
I didn't even know who he was until now. I
think I like him, but until he dated Taylor. We
love celebrities. Here were not a sports show. Hey, go
vote on today's Paul. Go to our Twitter page had
Nady nice rab Our facebook page is Naughdi Gossip and
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be sure to check out mar Bra Water. Here your
results and now now it's time for our nicest of
the day. All my nicest of the day Kendall Jenna
and Jacob ed lore D. I think I'm pronouncing that right.
He's so handsome and she's so gorgeous. So the two
were spotted looking cozy during a romantic dinner dinner date
(16:56):
in Montecito, California. So they're back from Hawaii. They are
now carrying on their relationship. They were very affectionate. Oh,
people say they were so cute together. Witnesses claim that
Kendall wrapped her arm around Jacob and even played with
his hair as the two of them had dinner late
into the night with friends. Now they're romance was really
(17:17):
a little bit suggested by Kylie Jenna, her sister. The
two of them have flirted, they liked each other, but
Kendall wasn't going to go there, and Kyla said, do it,
do it, go and find some happiness. I like these
two as a couple. They are the real deal and
it doesn't hurt that they're both gor just gorgeous. Gorgeous.
Now I naughty is the day? Naughty, naughty, naughty. This
is shocking. The former Prince Andrew's crude pickup lines have
(17:41):
been exposed. So the former Royal Andrew Man Batton Windsor
is now facing fresh humiliation after shocking Aggllegations about his
behavior towards women have resurfaced. My friend who's the royal
author Andrew Lowney. He has a new paperback version out
of his York book and in the paperback version, and
he's expanded it. He's added to the reporting, and he's
(18:02):
added some very vulgar pickup lines that Andrew used to use.
One of them was saying to ladies, quote, how does
it feel having the royal? You know what? Rubbing against
your thigh? An extraordinary sense of entitlement? Just gross? Ugh.
(18:24):
These Andrew's stories creep me out. And what is the day?
Let's end with a moment of rub. You get a rub,
you get a rob, you get a rob. Peace doesn't
happen by accident. It doesn't. The most peaceful people I
know didn't become that way by luck. They made peace
a priority every single day. They decided that peace was
(18:45):
going to be the number one thing a priority every
single day. They learned to walk away from drama, to
protect their energy, to stop giving their time to things
that drained them. Peace comes from small choices. Getting enough
red that's an easy choice. Saying no without guilt that's
more difficult. But you can do it. Forgiving people who
(19:07):
will never apologize, I can do that. I can move
on and creating space to breathe. That's so important. Find
your happy space, find out space a peaceful life does
not mean a perfect life. Let's be clear. It means
you no longer allow chaos to control your mind. The
people who seem calm and grounded work really hard for
(19:28):
that feeling, and once they found peace, everything changes. Find
peace and watch everything change. Make it a priority. Hey,
that is it for today. You're my priority noughties. Thank
you so much for listening to There Not Even Nice
with Rob and nort show. You're the co host the day.
(19:48):
We're a production. Allow us to ran an iHeartRadio. Don't
forget to follow me on substack robshooter dot substack dot com.
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very very email. It's not a long rambling one, just
short little pieces of gossip. It's almost like a piece
of candy. So throughout the day, in the morning around
one o'clock and then in the evening about six or seven,
(20:10):
I just fire off just the delicious little piece of
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And remember my novel is out now. It's started with
a whisper. Thank you to everybody who has purchased it,
thank you, thank you, thank you. If you haven't, please
think about doing so. I think it's a great summer read.
I think you'll really really enjoy it. And remember altogether now,
(20:32):
if you're going to be naughty, you've got to be
let me who you nice, sir? You'se a marbulous. I
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