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July 1, 2022 45 min

Rachel DeLoache Williams was a small town girl, living her dream in New York City as a photo editor at Vanity Fair, when she became the target for notorious con-artist Anna Delvey. Rachel’s empathy was weaponized by the fake German heiress, who betrayed her friendship and left her with a $62,000 credit card debt after a vacation to Morocco. We'll hear how Anna used classic narcissistic tactics to get close to Rachel, and how a friendship can mask the “red flags” we’re used to seeing in a romantic relationship. 

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Guest Information: 

Instagram: Rachel’s IG - @rdwilliams 

Twitter: Rachel’s TW - @rachel_deloache

Book: My Friend Anna: The True Story of a Fake Heiress

Guest Bio: 

Born and raised in Knoxville, TN, Rachel moved to New York City in 2010, after graduating from Kenyon College in Gambier, OH, and landed her dream job in the photo department at Vanity Fair, where she worked for nearly a decade. Her first book, My Friend Anna: the True Story of a Fake Heiress, published by Gallery Books in July 2019, went on to become a New York Times bestseller, and was selected by TIME Magazine as one of the “100 Must-Read Books of the Year.” Today, Rachel continues to write. She also works as a freelance photographer, producer, and creative consultant. 


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Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff. 

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