Episode 352 | Red Flags - New Rory & MAL

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Happy, top of the week, top of the top, another week,
another pod, you, sir, Happy, Women's Month.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Is Women's month, Women's Day. It was Women's Day? Right,
was it Women's Month?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I was looking at the marriage.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I mean, I'm heterosexual. Socialis Women's month.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
We'll get to that. Calm down.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, I'm just saying every day every month is Women's month.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, happy, but lated International Women's Day to me?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Of course, that's what it is, International Women's Day.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
But isn't March Women's Month as well? So there's Women's
Day in women's.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
MOUs Women's month because Valentine's Day.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Obviously, no women's Women's History months the March International women Day. Yes,
Women's History Month is March like Black History Month. But
Women's History Month is March. International Women's Day was the
other day when y'all didn't wish it to.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Me, we weren't with you. We're supposed to like call
you and.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Text you, y'all text everything else in the group chat.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I've never texted Happy International Women's Day in a group
chat in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know, next year could be I've never mayby solo
text you.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I've never No, I've never texted anyone happy International Women's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well I don't see it on Google calendar here, so
you should blame them.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, and then it was Daylight Saving so it was
kind of like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
It was all out of whack at one hour.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Threw everything off. Everything is completely out of control.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
And they got rid of the d I shit, So
you know, yeah, is it even a day?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I don't know. I don't know what day it is.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I can hear you humming over.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Somebody told me the new year starts in March. I'm
totally confused. Just everything I was told as.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
A kid, spring starts, that's spring, and airy season is
technically the beginning of the year.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well I've seen those YouTube conspiracy rabbit holes of like
when the calendar year really starts. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I don't know what's going on anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
To simulation, I know, the first is every month.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
This is what I do know.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I mean, I know in this neighborhood they celebrated New
Year's Eve at different time. So it's really confused.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, I don't know what's going on anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, we're here.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
But whatever you believe in, you know, congrats, yeah, and
good luck.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Congrats congrats on International.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Women congrats on you know, International Women's Day, Women's History Month.
Celebrate that, celebrate women in their history.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
We appreciate all that women have done for us, including birth.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Us, and continue to do this for us. Thank you,
this Earth.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You guys are awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I think the great James Brown said it's a man's world,
but it would be nothing without a woman.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
He said a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, he said a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
You want to continue on with more things, but he
said yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
He said a lot and did a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Anyways, how was your weekend?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Weekend was good man?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Where you got crazy in the streets. That's what I
was told. I got crazy. Yeah, I love a little
text message that you was outside.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh yeah, I was outside. That was definitely Oh I
just made that up. Look at I caught him. No,
I was outside, but I wasn't like outside. Well, it
was a little bit outside. I went to the I
went to the Catholic High School Championship game at Fordham University.
Oh fire, it was at Sunday. It was. It was
against Saint Rais and Stepping Act.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Okay, not much has changed. Getting raised is still sat race?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Well? No, this is the Samet race. First time in
the championship about probably thirteen years. Really yeah, so it
was like their first time in the championship about thirteen years.
Stepping Act has been dominating. They this is their third
straight Catholic high school championship. It was a really good game.
Saint race had it. Man, it was up six with
like a minute ten seconds left in the fourth quarter.
Gave up a three and they came back down and

(03:47):
got an a one on the layup tied. The game
went into overtime and they Stepping Act was able to
win it overtime. But shout out to Saint Ray's shout
out to my to my guy beach Stares, his son,
Brandon stores juniors now the all time I'm leading scorer
at Saint Raymonds. So you know, it was good. I
was hoping they wanted, you know. And he ended his
high school career with a championship, but they lost by two.

(04:10):
But he still had a great high school career. He's
on the Georgia tech Man, so good luck to him.
Shout out to shout out to my family, beat stars
in his entire family.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Did you see any It's gonna sound crazy, any young
men you wanted to invest in you know, like all
the drug dealers find the basketball player, guide them so
they can eventually extort them. Did you say, did you
say any potential talent out there? Oh, it was a
lot of talent, man, There was a lot of good kids.
Theo Ratliff's sons they played for Stepping Act. They're probably
about seven feet already. Oh my god, I'm getting there.

(04:37):
I think the Ratlef's son is in high school.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, they're both like seven feet tall. Of course I
think they're junior. So that whole Stepping Act team I
think is coming back again there. I don't think they
had any seniors. I think they made maybe maybe one sediear.
But yeah, they've been dominating. They've been dominating the Catholic
High School League. It's usually Stepping At and Christ the
King in the championship, but this year Saint Ray was
able to make it. But they just felt a little short,

(05:00):
but it was. It was a good game. And then
we went out. I went uptown. They had me doing
things I really don't do no more.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I went to all I went to like two spots
I haven't been to in probably seven years. It was Hookah.
It was TVs with the games on. It was bottles
of champagne coming. I was like, I have not been
outside in New York City like that in a long time.
But it was cool to catch up with some of
my homies that I haven't seen in a while.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Oh, I mean, we gotta I gotta hit loy On
and see see what's up with the bill? How many
sparkles you had cent your way?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, I was literally the first spot we went to.
We was in there for no. I was in there
for like ten minutes and then a fight broke out
and everybody tried running out the front and I looked
at my man. I was like, I'm hot, let I
don't even do that as soon as I'm in the
spot and it starts getting shaken and I'm only there
for ten minutes. And my thing is it was probably
four point thirty.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
In the morning.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, it's like like five o'clock in the evening. Yeah. Yeah,
but I'm just like, who was fighting at five o'clock
inside of a lamp? I was like, who's doing that?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean, Daylight Savings hadn't happened yet, so it's getting
a little dark. It was on Sunday. Yeah, I got statued. Yeah,
it's kind of whild.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's five o'clock sunshine, a nice day out, and you
who's fighting at five o'clock.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Some of those hookah spots, especially like the hole in
the wall ones, it can't get darkened there even during
the day.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
So this wasn't a hole in the war. This is
like a known spot.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Uptown when when fights break out in those spots and
I'm more in the back, I think it's safer to
just duck under it table like a pussy and let everyone.
Oh no, I trying to get out that. Oh no,
I'm just gonna go down.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah. Me and my boy was in the back, and
as soon as it calmed down.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
In the front trampled and then shot.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
No, we left. We had it. As soon as it
calmed down, everything cool outside, we out of here, and
we left and went and got some meat, and I
was home by eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, it was my dad's birthday on Saturday. H He
drove up in the camper, saw the camper for the
first time.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, that's possible. So now I got to ask dad.
I got to ask how's dad and the camper?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yes, I mean that's all he talked about the entire time.
But yeah, it's great. I mean, I see why he
got it. He's on his way now, he's doing the
whole East coast. Then I think he's gonna bust a
right at New Orleans and go all the way west
and up and back. So he's just gonna do like
a square.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
He gonna do like a loopy loop. Yeah, okay, so
I'm going up all the way up to Seattle Portland area.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Maybe, Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure he'll do that. I'm
connecting with LEXI.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is he document things? Is he like recording? It? Is?
He just like everything here? He's still one of those everything.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Here's even know how to open its fun. He should
have a flip phone, really he should. He has like
the iPhone C from like twenty fourteen. Yeah, and I
don't think he knows how to take a single photo.
But it was fun to see him hang out with Lamara.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's so dope, man. It's just like living a camper
and just you know, travel to us Man's that's a
real American dream right there.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Some of some of the leftover weed I had at
the spot that you put me onto. Yeah, had had
some forum and yeah, watched him get a little too high. Yeah,
that stuff is a little.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean he needs it, man, he's gonna be on
the road, you know, I mean he needs the clips.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Headed No, no, it needs to pay attention to the
fucking This is him and Bob Dylan on the road.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
But you know, went back to the indoor playground, through
around some kids, trying to mess with Themrow. I hate
the weekends. The big kids are there. Yeah, but the
big kids I feel comfortable, like, you know, he can
just just push them, he can. The little ones are
top heavy. It feels like it's unfair.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Not big kids though, Noah, Yeah, fucking ten year olds
from Jersey City are like eighteen year old men. Yeah,
get out of here. You get a little rough with
a ten year old. It's okay, Jamrish was in these streets.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Nope. Home. I on't leave my house on weekends. I'll
know that.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
You said Friday, you're gonna stop at my crib? Never
did what time did you get home Friday? Because you
didn't tell me when you got home. You were here
recording MKIB with our money.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I got home. That was early though, Yeah, it was
out of was out of here boy, like three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, and then I picked up and why I went
right to Jersey. You just gonna understand you.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
But you never You never told me when you were like, yeah, IMNA,
let you know when I get home from the office.
You never know when you got home from the office.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
This feels like gaslighting you.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
When you eventually, when you originally asked me, you said
you were he was like, yeah, when I get home
from the office, like, I'll just come through. I'll let
you know when I get home. You never did, so
I'm like, oh, maybe you didn't want to be bothered.
You had recorded that entire week. You got filmed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
I just figured you want to be left alone.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Almost I wanted to helped so you could watch Mars
so I could sleep.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
That's what I almost woke up and came here on Saturday,
just like Muscle Memories. You know, you've like been someway
all week. I'll be like, oh shit, and I don't
have to go in today, like I'm good like people
that have regular job. Yeah, exactly, this is a regular job.
I don't know if you know that.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Listen, last week was exhausted, but I'm not gonna sit
here and say it was some crazy thing like demas
giving us credit. You guys, Monday through Friday you worked.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, But what I'm saying is you talk for a
living story. You talked one day through Friday to go
and talk again, like that's a lot of fucking talking.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh my gosh. No, yeah, I be all talked out,
like I don't have much conversation for like family and
friends anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh That's why I felt bad when HARMANI came in
here because I didn't seen him in a while. We're
friends or whatever. I just was not a talking moot.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, just shut up, perform and get out.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
But as the day went, you know, and we kicked
it afterwards. Yeah, that morning, no, I didn't want to
talk to anybody.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, yoh, what's.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Up man, I haven't seen it?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, everything's just the mic is right here.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
We're ready for you. We're ready for you. Do you
do your a little rappy rap thing that you do
shout out to all mini white though.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I'm excited to put that one out. We have
on my car's beautiful. We have they coming this week,
which was a really cool conversation and today, Yeah, I'm
excited for that one. Yeah, we got a lot, a
lot of cool. My Karma's beautiful already in the tuck recorded.
But other than that, it was a very very light weekend.
I mean, I looked at the timeline and saw Lebron

(10:25):
going fucking crazy and had a full blown debate with
my dad about the entire thing. And I'm coming in
here upset with myself of how I'm on the fence
with the entire thing.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
All right, So Lebron James obviously confronted stephen A Smith
at the Lakers game last week about some comments that
steven A has been making, you know, throughout I guess
the last few months since Bronnie James has entered the NBA.
It is obviously steven A's job to, you know, talk
about sports and analyze the game and analyze athletes things

(10:58):
like that. So Lebron, the Lakers were playing I want
to say, who is Lakers? I forgot who they were
playing that night, but it was at just at the
Crypto Arena, And after that time out, Lebron had left
the bench and stephen They was sitting close to the
Lakers bench. So Lebron saw stephen A courtside and decided

(11:18):
to approach him and what Stephen they calls a confrontation,
He didn't call it a conversation, called it a confrontation.
You could tell by the.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Body language in the video that it was a confrontation.
When you're six, I'm confronting you about some shit.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
When you're six eight two eighty, it's usually a confrontation
when you step to another man.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, but I mean, Lebron, we've definitely seen approach people,
but you can tell it's not in a crazy way.
This one felt like all energy above the shoulders, I'm
looking down over you purposely type of time.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah. Now when I saw this, I thought that maybe
I missed something that Steven they may have said about BRONI.
But then Stephen A addressed everything on you know, first take,
and then he went on his his podcast as well
and went more into depth about the situation and what
had happened, and basically, you know Lebron, He said, Lebron,

(12:10):
that wasn't an athlete. That was a father that approached me.
That was somebody, you know, talking as a parent and
you know, kind of defending their child. Now, you know,
this situation is very unique because Lebron is Lebron James
and obviously Broni being his son, is under the same
you know, incredible microscope and you know scrutiny that Lebron

(12:30):
James is under. And people have been vocal about their
feelings about, you know, Bronni being drafted and you know,
obviously the nepotism that people have spoken to, which we
support and we applaud.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
But it's not just stephen A.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Everyone everybody has chimed in on this. Everybody has had
something to say. I think that Lebron just got to
a point where he's kind of tired of stephen A
making it a talking point, Like Okay, obviously you said
what you said, but it's like you may continue, you
continue to bring up Bronnie and continue to have this conversation.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Well he's on TV all day, Yeah he has to.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
But you know, I think Lebron felt like, yo, like
talk about something else, like we get it, Like Bronnie
is drafted obviously because of me, He's not playing that well.
He should be in the G League now. While I
do understand Lebron being a dad and kind of like
holding his son down, you know, on the opposite side,
I understand what Steven is saying, and Steven is basically saying, like,

(13:26):
you know, Lebron, you put a lot on your son's
shoulders by comments that you made saying that, you know, Bronnie,
can you know, play over some guys that are in
the NBA right now. He's a comments that Lebron made
before Bronnie entered the league. Yeah, so he kind of
like put a lot on it. He put a lot
a lot of pressure, as if there wasn't already a
lot of pressure on Bronnie just being who he is.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Which we discussed even before the draft, when Bronny was
going in to answer for the draft, we said, did
Lebron as a father put way too much pressure going
into this situation the way he supported his son, Which
who's gonna be mad at that? Right, But with the
tweets and everything, it started to be like, all right,
he is put setting his son up to have a

(14:09):
bullseye on his head with everything that they've been talking
the same way we talked about how the Ball family
is so incredible and you know their dad put a
fucking target on Lonzo's head before he even got to
the Lakers, like everyone's gunning for him based off his
dad talking all that shit. So I think Bron has

(14:29):
to take some accountability in this entire thing.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I think, And that's what Stephen they kind of spoke to.
I think he was saying, you know, because he has said,
you know, Lebron, stopped this, not stop meaning have your
son just out of the league and you know, like
you know, stop putting more pressure on the situation. Stop
saying making these comments that you know he belongs here,
Let him develop, Send him to the G League where, yes,

(14:55):
there's gonna be cameras on him, and it's gonna be
analysts at the game watching Bronni. Again, he can't get
away from that spotlight because of his last name, well
his name, so he you know, Stephen they was saying,
let him go to the G League where he's been
playing well, where he's been, you know, he's been, he's been,
you know, playing well, developing his game. And then maybe
one day because Stephen, Ay, from what I've seen again,

(15:15):
maybe there's something that Lebron heard that you know, we don't.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Know about the group chat that we weren't pretty too.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Or just something that Steven. They may have said that Steven,
they can't even remember what he said, you know what
I mean, But from what I see, well, yeah, but
from what I can see, Stephen, they seems to have
always supported Lebron and you know, his family and everything
that you know, he does. I just think that it
got to a point where Bron was like, Yo, you're
making it a point every week to talk about Brownie

(15:42):
and talk about him not playing well and him not
you know, highlighting his numbers and him you know, not
really living up to the pressure and the height that
comes with his name. So you know, Lebron saw him
and was like, yo, listen, keep my son, you know,
stop talking about him.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Let him just be keep my son's name, not your
motherfucking out.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
But it's not But here's why it's not fair because
at the end of the day, Steven A is an analyst.
He's on you know, First Take, He's on a bunch
of shows on ESPN talking about athletes and sports every day,
and obviously your son is now in the NBA, so
he has to take what comes with that like every
other player has to take it.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's and we're speculating what was said in that conversation
despite deliberator shit, But I'm with you Lebron is actually
proving stephen A's point and everyone else's point with some
of the nepotism and some of the exceptions that Bronni
gets because of his dad. Now, I understand fully Bron's
father energy in that regard. Fuck this whole NBA shits

(16:38):
my son. You're not gonna play his name. But as
a father, you also have to accept now that your
son is a man and you wanted him to be
in a position where he will be critiqued no matter what.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Because here's the thing, and.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You need to teach him off someone that has been
critiqued since he was in fucking I don't know what
middle school. Lebron has been in the public eye, has
probably dealt with more scrutiny than most athletes in history.
You got to show your son how to deal with
that type of stuff. Yeah, because in this regard, now
you're asking to move the goalpost. Now we can't talk
about him.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
But here's why I really don't like it, because if
Bronny was playing well and putting up incredible numbers and
Steve when they was talking about him every day, bron
wouldn't approach him, and like, YO, keep my son's name
out your fucking mouth.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
So, now that your son is not playing well, he's
you know, he's not even he's his We're not gonna
talk about the numbers. It's that doesn't matter. He's just
not playing well. Your son belongs. Let him develop in
the G League. Keep him there, because if you allow
him to travel with the team and all of these
things and this, that and the third, you know, it's like, Okay,
we know the nepotism is real, we get that, but

(17:40):
now it's like we're adding on to that, and it's
and then he's not playing well on top of that,
whenever he does get an opportunity to play, he's not
playing well. Versus let him stay in the g L
where he's been playing well, putting up really good numbers
in the G League. Let him stay down there and
develop his game, and then when the time comes, let
him come back up to the to the to the
to the league and did show us what he's been

(18:01):
working on.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I mean, my original point is a little bit meaner,
but I think fairer, if that's even a word. I
forgot what episode it was when I was asking you,
why do people keep talking about this kid. I understand
his last name. I get this story, but what he
barely gets any playing times before he went down to Gliue,
Like he scored one basket and it was a headline.
They talked about it for three hours the morning it happened. Yeah,

(18:22):
this is a non story. Yeah, stop talking about him.
He doesn't deserve to be talked about. Yeah, that's really
where I think these analysts should be taking it. Why
do you guys can see you talk about somebody that
has not proven a fucking thing. When he starts balling,
which we are confident he will get better, and developed
talk about him, then, I mean, I think about somebody
that doesn't travel with the team.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
And that's what that's what Lebron was saying, Like, you know,
like a game, we know he's not playing well. You
don't have to keep saying it every day. But then again,
it's a professional athlete, right, But that's what I'm saying.
It's not fair because if he was playing great and
they would talking abou Hi every day, Lebron would he
would welcome that with open arms. So I get it.
You know, on one side of your dad and you
want to protect your son but your son is a
grown man now, he's in, you know, in the National

(19:01):
Basketball Association, So he has to take what comes with that.
With every other athlete has to take if they're not
playing well, people are gonna say that, They're gonna tweet
about it, they're gonna post about it, the analysts are
gonna talk about it. And again, his last name, the
name on the back of his jersey, only magnifies the
situation because he comes from basketball royals.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
If stephen A was some about's personal life or some shit,
then I could just fully understand. But no, it's basketball.
I hate that we always have to compare Lebron in Jordan.
But I've never seen Jordan confront Shade Room.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I'm sure he's the I'm sure somebody has reached out v.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
On behalf of the Jordan family.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Absolutely take all this shit. Jordan can't wait to see
Justin Leboyd wait to catch He can't wait to catch
Justin's sideline. He gonna run down Justin. Has nothing to
do with Shave Room. He's still gonna run down on him.
Keep my son's name about, your fucking mouth man.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Perez Hilton being his stephen A is fucking.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, man, it's is gonna be interested now to see
stephen A like, Hi, the game the other night, Lebron's
name came up and he was like, listen, let's talk
about Jason Tatum.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Does he have kids?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah? Yeah, Steven Ay took that shit off Lebron. Really,
he don't even want to talk about Lebron could go
out there and have a better game than yokicch had
the other night, and stephen A is not gonna.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Talk about Skip over that talking boy.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Let's talk about Jason Tatum and what the Celtics are doing.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I could have been trolled that I strolled past it.
Forgive me. I should have done more research. Did I
see that steven A and Skip were doing an episode
together or is that like a fake the back?

Speaker 1 (20:31):
The band is back.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I think it was just an episode on steven Show
or Skip show.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'm not completely Oh man, you don't want him steven
A and Skip talking about that Lebron shit. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
And I mean, listen, don't don't quote me because Roy
Maul don't know ball. But I did see somewhat if
a flyer after this whole thing, and I wasn't sure
if they were just joking because obviously Skip hates Lebron
and like, now this is what brings them back together
after all those years.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I can't wait to see stephen A on Club Shasha. Now.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well, yeah, they have an episode that came out two
hours ago, so yesterday for people that are just nowt here.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I'm gonna have to watch that when we're done here.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, the return of two goats.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's kind of crazy to see though.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
The Skip Bayley Show with Steven A. Smith.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
This is a huge moment though. Yeah, like pretty much
the history of of what sports broadcasting is now is
based on how these two shifted everything.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. I mean, it's just funny because if stephen A,
you know, if you know his he probably worked harder
than anybody on the sports analyst side of the game.
So when this situation happened, I was like, damn, he
gonna have to do everybody show now because they all
want to talk about, Yo, what happened with Braun? What
happened with Braun? I think stephen A handled it as

(21:41):
well as he could.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Good blessing with the timing, with his new deal and everything.
Now the press run we really have something to talk about.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Listen. It helps man, I know, I know, you know
people saying, oh, Stephen A, you know, Lebron ran down
on you. And but I said, what is Steven A't
supposed to do? Fight Lebron?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I just think this is beautiful karma, even based off
some of the comments here. Never disrespect the boy. Now
it's twenty v one against Braun. Now you know what
the energy like. Now everyone teaming up. I mean, but nobody,
you deserve it all. Yeah, but nobody disrespected Braun. Of course.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
That's see, that's the thing. And that was the thing
about the whole the whole thing. I was like, but
I don't again, unless Lebron heard something that Stephen, they
said that. We don't know about that. He took a
little personal Stephen. They has always seemed to be fair
when it comes to Lebron, fair when it well most people, honestly,
Stephen ay conn of except the Kyrie thing. I still
don't like what he did with Kyrie during the pandemic.

(22:34):
But other than that, Stephen they always seems to be fair.
He seems to be when you're doing well and you're
playing great, he supports you when you're struggling. Obviously, he
has to talk about it and and and you know,
cover it as well. And I think that's the case here.
I think that it was a little extra because it
is Bronni. But again it's Bronni, so people are going
to talk about him, and you know, lebron just was like, nah, man,

(22:57):
we're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Do you think that? Do you think that takes are
more are found to be more disrespectful when they're entertaining
because a bunch of people couldn't talk about the same thing.
But if you make a niggas laugh at me, it
tends to sting. That's a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Usually what it is, like, No, there's a non story
shit that ends up going viral because whoever said it
delivered it so well and now you're the butt of
the joke when it's not even really a big deal. Yeah,
that makes it worse.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, but people gotta stop because again, if he was
playing well and steven A was talking about it every
morning on first take, it wouldn't have been no step
to me on the sideline and it wouldn't have been
none of that. So you gotta take it when you're
not playing well. That goes for any athlete, like when
you're not playing well, you gotta take what comes to that.
People gonna start cracking jokes because y'all on the twelve
game loser streak and you struggling, and y'all to butter

(23:46):
the jokes. Now, you gotta take that. If y'all on
a twelve game win streak and the hottest team in
the league and they're talking about that, y'all gonna love
that as well. So you can't. You can't. You gotta
take what comes with it. It's part of the game,
it's part of the territory. But I think overall, if
we look at steven A, he's always seemed to be
a fair guy. He's always seemed to be fairs. I
don't think stephen is ever meant to be malicious and disrespectful.

(24:08):
I don't get that energy.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's a skip thing.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, I don't get that malicious, you know, disrespectful energy. Again,
aside from the Kyrie taking the vaccine thing, I thought
that Stephen A was completely out of line.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
With Kyrie about that. He was on a different side.
How do you, guys martial wors.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Handle people criticizing your family or you're super super close friends, Like,
what do you take? What do you think is the
difference between criticizing and disrespect.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Criticizing is as long as you're speaking to the actual
what's what's actually happening. I think disrespect is when you
start to gossip and start to throw things in the
mix that are not true and just trying to push
a false narrative. I think that's when it becomes disrespect.
But I think if you're speaking to the facts and
what's actually happening. When you if you feel disrespected as

(24:55):
somebody speaking the facts, it's usually because.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You feel bad about the facts, feel bad about the fact.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's like damn like. But I don't think that if
it's you know, if it's facts, it's facts, like it
is what it is. Because now if Bronney go out
there and it has twenty five tomorrow, you know what
I'm saying that Stephen, they covers it, it's what all
it's forgiven at the point, you know what I'm saying.
So it's it's it's a it's just a weird situation.
But again I understand Lebron. Want you know, in that moment,

(25:20):
like Stephen, they said that was a father, That wasn't
Lebron James the athlete that wasn't Lebron James. You know
the basketball legend, that was Lebron James, the father protecting
his family, protecting his son. Because obviously Broni is probably
affected by He's never had well, he's had a spotlight
his entire life. But now that he's on this stage,
you know, he's every morning it's on the biggest you know,

(25:42):
sports outlets. People are talking about him. So Lebron, you know,
Bronni might be in the house and he Lebron might
see that it's really affecting him. It's affecting his son,
it's affecting his mental health. He's probably you know, out
there noticing that. You know, Broni is struggling because it's
so much on every time he's on the floor, so
many eyes on him. Why to know what he's going
to do. But again, you know, this is part of

(26:03):
what comes with that territory of being a James junior.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Rory, what about you the difference between criticizing your family
and disrespecting your family.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I mean, I think family personally is off limits and everything.
Brownie is an exceptionaire because he's a professional athlete, so
that kind of takes him out of that Sarah. So,
I'm kind of on the side of family period. But
that I mean, especially in the media genre now has
that rule has been been gone for a long time.

(26:31):
I'm not naive, but I still feel that way.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Like I wouy, I don't.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I try my absolute best. Sometimes I will slip up,
but you know, not backtrack, but try to fix it.
If I feel like, oh I brought up someone's family,
I shouldn't have done that. I still try to live
by that rule because I personally believe families win. Like
that shit is off limits.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
It's off limits.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
This isn't a url battle or rap battle. Like I
get that that's part of that game. I guess it's
part of this game now, but that doesn't mean I
have to participate in it. I mean, if you go
at my family, yes there's going to be something that
will happen, but it's not going to be a back
and forth of the family off well to me, I
don't know. Does that not make y'all feel like your

(27:15):
stomach hurt a little bit when you to talk about
someone's family, Like, you know, people have nothing to do
with what the fuck is going on around I'm not.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
With that at all. That's why I was going to
try to make it more more realistic for real life.
Let's say no, in real.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Life, this whole genre disrespects everyone's family. But I'm not,
which to me is insane. I'm not talking to kids
every idea. I'm not talking about media. I'm talking about
normal people.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
If someone in your life has a critique, Let's say
your girlfriend has a critique for your mother or a
critique for about Maul, where you draw the line between
criticizing or you know what I'm saying or saying how
they could be better, complaining to you how they could
be better, and disrespecting.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Like if my family starts talking about Rory.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah or either, or when my mom called Maul gay,
I did tell her to stop. That's not true, Okay,
don't I said, don't say that, mom.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
See no doubt you said, don't say that, mom. Or mom,
that's not true both. Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
See that's see, that's what I'm saying. See that's like sweet,
that's disrespect like to call me gays.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
But she didn't mean it.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
She meant that she thought I was gay.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah, that was wrong. She was just like, you know,
nothing wrong.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
With being gay, but you know. I just I was
disrespected by that, That's all it was.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
It was more so her reasoning that made me laugh,
Like where I kind of stopped defending. It was like,
this is just funny. She was like, I've never had
a girlfriend. I was like, well, that doesn't mean no,
that just means that just means you pump. That's you pump.
You did pump that you pumped that narrative. We know
about one Italian girlfriend from the nineteen.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Seventy six I got, I got, I got, I got
a bunch of girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
And to me, my response to my mom in that regards, no,
that doesn't make him gay. Just see slanging these toes
like there you go, just different one every night, like
hope me that with the fib. Hold me down with
your mom and tell tell her I get pussy, Tell.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
You I get pushy? Man? What's up?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Man?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Holpe me down in the living room.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I'm trying to think there's been instances of which I
told you about before with I wouldn't say a mutual
friend of ours, but somebody we both know front of
the show. She she's called in before, has DMed me
things and I'd be like, yo, don't talk about mal
my DM, like I will block you in this situation.

(29:28):
You're not going to talk about mal in front of me.
I'll tell you. It'll make total sense the moment I
tell you. But yeah, in instances that I'm not trying
to be super confrontational, if somebody says something discreptful about
my family that isn't like super egregious, I'll say, hey,
don't talk about them in front of me, like I'm
just not. You can't do that with me. It won't

(29:51):
be even if it's a valid critique. No, if it's
a valid critique, we can have a conversation about it.
I'm talking about disrespect. I don't think a valid critique
is just I think it disrespect is when you start
talking about people's personal shit, their appearance, lies about them
like that type of stuff to me is disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
But if somebody as is not disrespectful, though I can't.
If it's the facts, the facts can't be deemed as disrespect.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
And even let's not even say facts, let's just say
their opinion, like say, if somebody came up to you
like yoah, I think Rory is a bad podcaster, which
obviously we all know impossible one of the goats. But
I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect you to be like, yo,
chill fuck you. Like if somebody said it to you
and you talk to them, I wouldn't really care because
that's not disrespectful. That's just their opinion. They don't think

(30:37):
I'm a good podcast and they ran into someone on
the podcast and said, y'all, I don't really think he's
a good podcaster. Okay, cool.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
It also depends on how you delivered that information because
my reaction to that information. Let's say, if my sister
called me and say, yoh, I'm listening to the podcast
Rory sucks, like I would listen to her critique, right,
But if a stranger on the street walks by one
walking away and be like, yo, let a pop of
Rory's trash. I'm trying to I'm saying my deck like
it's going to be complet It depends on how you
say things and who's saying it and where you're saying it.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I'm just I don't know. Again, I'm on the opposite
side of all of that shit. I don't if somebody
says something disrespectful, like disrespectful is like again, making it
an attack on personal shit, like I don't like Rory's face,
like you should like darken the light on his face
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
But that's that's a valid critique.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
But again, but again coming from somebody else with you man,
like you know what I'm saying, chill out. But I wouldn't.
I don't know. I'm just not I don't think that
it would be a confrontation, though I would. I would
look at them, and most times I just look at
people like they're crazy anyway, and just stare at them.
I give them that blank stare like I didn't ask
you for that. But anyway, like all right, cool. So
I don't really you know what I'm saying. I don't

(31:46):
get into that, but I do understand how people, you know,
can cross the line of critique and disrespect. It's a
fine line, especially if you don't know what you're talking about,
and you know, if you're if you're speaking to the facts,
which what people should always do anyway is kind of
lean more towards facts instead of gossip. Then I think,
you know, everybody should be able to, you know, listen

(32:07):
and take things into account, like okay, maybe I could.
I was wrong. I could see why you say that.
But if it's just gossip and lies and you know,
bullshit that people are speaking to, that's when disrespect comes
in and it's just like that conversation is going to
go left.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Nothing is more awkward like the scenario that Damaris brought up,
Like if you're passing a listener and they'll say something,
have you ever been in like a TSA line or
something that's not moving?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Oh, you can't.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
And you're right like next to the person, and they'll
be like, yo, yo, what's up with moll In uh,
Drake Man deal, Kendrick this and that, And you're like, haha, cool,
And then you just have to You now have to
sit there in silence, knowing this person is just staring
at you wanting to talk about a show.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's the worst fucking thing in the world. The airport
is always the worst place to see like listeners or fans.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
And it's not even like I would be upset I
would talk to them. That shit just gives me wild anxiety.
Now that I'm just sitting in this TSA line and
there's someone next to me that just talks about the
show and wants to continue talking, and I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
But you can't say that because if somebody in the
TSA long talk to you about anything, you're gonna be
awkward about it.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, oh for sure, you don't talk to for sure.
But now, like the show is like an uh not
a closed conversation, Like we could keep talking about the show,
but I'm clearly showing I don't want to. It's not
like a hey, can you pass a bin situation? It's
it's like, you really want to talk to me about
how Kendrick B. Drake and I just don't care. Yeah,
like at all.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I understand that.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I mean, I appreciate when people show support, but nah,
not what we're getting into criticizing and topics like let's
let's just get through pre check the fastest we can.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I'm glad you reminded me that mom said that about me.
Next time I see, I'm gonna hell her. Keep my name,
maha mouth. I'm pressing them all. Let's it. I pressed
the Chicago wech other in elevator. I didn't even know
she was dead, Hotel. I should have pressed her right there, like, yo,
keep my name matter of fact. Now get on the
next elevator. You can't you say that, But what happens
if she stalled off on you like Solange? I ain't
gonna lie one of my mom's elevator against I'm respecting that.

(34:03):
I'm respecting like you're roy. Your mom just popped on me.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Now what if my mom played corners and you were
the fifth person your.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Mom, your mom playing corners growing up? I can definitely
see her getting down in the elevator punching the girl
in the face. Absolutely, I can see that. Shout out
to mom's moms, I'm not gay, love you, wow.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But I mean to close this. In my younger years,
which I mean Peage can attest to as well, I
didn't take criticism of my friends very well, and I
tended to always be the person that would go out
on a limb and be the one to confront everything,
which then ended up like making me the asshole at
the end of the day. And then then you see
friends get back cool with somebody union of the issue with.

(34:43):
But you're always the person that has to go confront everything,
and yeah, it's exhausting and.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Your personal life, how do you how do you tell
one of your close friends that they shouldn't be friends
with somebody like that, but like, you can't but you
can't say it like that because they don't. They're not
recepted to that. They kind of like they just hear you,
but it just they paying no mine, Like, how do
you do that? How do you have like sit your
friend out by yo? Why do you? Why are you

(35:09):
cool with this person?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Maybe it's a mid thirties thing. At this point, they're
an adult, Like I can express how I feel about
the situation and why I don't think that person is
a good friend to you. But that's your choice. Man,
that's you're an adult. I'm not gonna sit here and
harp or continue this conversation. I said what I said
because I care about you. If you don't listen, I

(35:31):
don't take it as disrespect, but I'm just not gonna
sit around all day and tell you how this person
is bad you. You are a grown human being that
can make decisions on your own. I said my piece,
and whatever happens, I'll still be here as your friend.
I may give you a little I told you soone
in my breath, but well I love that. Oh No,
that's first of all. You may give a little I
told you so. That's your fate. If I had a
fucking penny for how many I told you so, maybe

(35:53):
you should listen to me more.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
We wouldn't need this fucking deal like everything something like
I'm that issue here. I told you so, I told
you that wasn't your friend. I told you I was
in your friend every five seconds.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I mean, it's helpful to have somebody from the outside
looking in third party viewing of friendship because I've had
friendships I thought were real ended up not being real
multiple times. I've been a bad judge of character multiple
multiple times. Sometimes you need that friend that's not in
that situation to just look at the facts of what's
going on and go, no, this is not a good

(36:23):
situation for you.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
How many stories are are you the villain in?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Probably a lot? Yeah, yeah, not like I don't think
anything like egregious, but yeah, probably Do you care to
like clear it up or you just let it be
again mid thirty stuff. I do care less about clearing
things up, like at all. I'm only asking you kind
of not at all, to be quite honest.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
No, I'm only asking you because I've been through like
that that phase already that you're now in.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
It's just like, try it's relieving, like of not even caring.
I went it went through a very very weird phase.
Started the way most people are pretty mu everyone in
the beginning of trying to clear up everything, and reputation
means the most, like this is it. That's really your stock,
is what your reputation and what people think of you.
Then I got to the point of not caring to

(37:12):
clear it up, but it still bothered me. So I
was carrying the weight and the anxiety of it, but
I was still like, no, I'm not taking the energy
to go clear it up. Now I'm at the phase
that I do not care. You can think whatever the
fuck you I'm not even going to clear it up.
Matter of fact, keep telling the story.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Man, I'm gonna hear how way it goes, Let me
how good, let me how creative you are.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Like And what's funny is sometimes when you don't clear
shit up and they continue with the narrative, everyone starts
to see how the narrative changed the story they had
originally keeps having different factors.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Now me and you've been through that, and that was
at the time. I'm like, dog, but I don't care,
and you used to like no, but we have to.
We have to address things because narratives get created.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
And I swear that was a general statement, by the
way that there's been multiple times that this happened to me,
even absolutely, but yes, you are definitely have said that
and can say I told you so.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Oh yeah to me, my god, with plenty of times.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Just let that stop. Trying to fix you can't just
let things be, man, Just let things be.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
But hopefully lebron James, Man, listen, man, you know, hopefully
BRONI plays well again. I think that he's he should
be in the league because he's been playing really well
in not the D League, G League, He's been playing
really well in the G League, and I think that's
great for me. He needs to be in game situations,
you know, getting getting some real bump underneath his you know,

(38:30):
his belt, and just you know, developing the skills. Man,
there's nothing wrong with developing. I think that. You know,
obviously we got the moment that we probably would never
see again with NBA son and dad on the court together,
you know. But now it's time for Bronni to really
develop and hone his skills and become a solid NBA player,
which I think he has the talent to do that.
He just needs to they got developed.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Luca was a missing piece. Brinni will be back on
the regular team. He just needed someone on the wing.
And Bronni is an all star, he just needed Luca.
That's all.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
You need a little more than that, just just a
little more. Luca is a great piece for the team.
But Ronnie himself as the player I think that he had.
You know, he will have time to develop and get better,
and I think that he will be a solid NBA player.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Before we get to this DOCI topic, I will quickly ask,
is steven A and Skip the best sports duo in
media history?

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Uh, it's first Take, the best sports show debate show.
I guess if you will?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I mean we have to give respects around the horn.
Pardon the interruption. Is one of my favorite sports shows
every but I just don't know if there was ever
a better time than stephen A Smith and Skip.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
That was like the goal.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
It replaced Sports Center. Yeah, like Sports Center came on
at ten, Yeah, when it used to come on at
fucking six.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
You know what with stephen A and and Skip were
able to do with first Take? You know, they brought
in culture to sports, and they just magnified, you know,
the debate level. And I think they kind of birthed
a lot of debate platforms because of what they were
able to do. But yeah, they were special that what
they were able to do, and Bill was you know,

(40:15):
I don't think we'll ever see something like that on
a major network again. Like they were legendary with what
they did.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Speaking of duos, I want Miss Milan shouts to Miss
Milan front of the show and DOCI to have their
own show together because I love watching the timeline go
to fucking shambles over absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
So I saw that. I saw that DOCI made a
comment was that hot ones.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, there's different forms of hot ones. It's not always
shown in a guest like they'll they'll play games and shit.
I saw everyone saying, they're like, oh, she couldn't even
get the real ones, Like now they've done this before. Yeah,
obviously Miss Milan is her DJ and they're really really
close friends. So she did it with her and they
were asking each other questions and Miss Milan asked or whatever.
The topic was the biggest red flag in dating, and

(41:08):
DOCI had put straight straight men as her biggest red flag.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Okay, and that threw that threw socials up in shambles. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
The amount of think pieces from men that have never
thought made me laugh all fucking day. The think pieces
were absolutely fucking insane.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Why do people care so much about a joke? And
I told him, Marius, I was gonna come in here,
and I'm I'm already prepared to be the pick me
here even though I truly believe this and don't see
the big fucking deal. She made a fucking joke. Yeah,
straight men, ha. She's also queer, right, yes, so yeah,
that would be a red flag in dating. I'll tell
you this. A gay man would be a red flag

(41:51):
for me, not because he's a gay man, but in dating.
I don't date gay men, so that would be a
red flag for me. Wait, doci's gay, she's queer, so
she what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Dates?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Probably everyone, and she dates anything. If I'm not mistaken,
that's her sexuality. I'll have to double check on that.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
But she is.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Why are you looking at me like that? Queer is
that's not a new thing. That's not one of these
new adjectives that we added yesterday. Queer has been around
quite some time, that's the Q and lbgt Q.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yes, so it says that she's openly bisexual, which would
mean that you're a queer or you're a queer.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Okay, so she's about sexual Yes, she dates men and women. Yes,
but it's just the way Demarus framed. But she says
she dates anything. I just didn't know what that meant.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Well, isn't there actually a sexuality that dates like they
would date this table if they uh dead ass or
something like whatever. The opposite of a sexual the people
that don't have sex at all, there is somebody that
would like, they'll date whatever they're feeling that day. It
may be a girl, it may be a side table,
maybe a couch, but like that's their that's their person

(42:59):
for the day. A dog.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Mm I don't. I don't pay bull shit like that.
I don't pay attention to.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
But to me, that is some type of version of
statutory right.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I'm just trying to understand because said the dog wanted
to be dated. Like, I'm just trying to understand. It's okay,
So Doci is queer, she's by sex, and that dog
is underage. Right, So yes, I saw this. I saw
when you know, DOCI said what she said, and you know,
I laughed at it. I didn't take much into it,
but I did see people posting and saying like, oh,

(43:32):
you know, she's pushing the agenda. You know she's you
know Grammy Winner. Now, Now, this is what they have
her doing. They programmed her to push it. I think people,
I think everybody's just bored. I think people are bored
and people are looking. Everybody has victim mentality. Everybody wants
to be a victim. Everybody feels like they're a victim.

(43:54):
I just think everybody needs to relax, enjoy life, live
your life, mind your business, have your fun, and do
the things that you like to do. I just don't
think that it's that series of doc he says straight
men are a red flag when dat yeah, I would
laugh at that as well. It's not.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
And then all of a sudden, this brings in the
group I hate the most, the preference police.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
If she would have said if a guy got up
there and said that a red flag for him is
Latino women, he would be canceled. I'm like, I don't
understand how you can tie those two things together at all.
And like they thought they was like really landing points
of like why men are under attack because a man
couldn't make this joke or he would be canceled. Okay,
even if I agree with you, So I believe in

(44:43):
double standing. This world is full of double stands.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Plenty of them. But plenty of men have come and
said that bisexual women are red flags to them, plenty
of That's a regular thing, they say that all the time.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Mau has had some skeptical shit of dating bisexual women,
and we've had that conversation. If I walked in on
my girl fucking another girl, I'd be fine with it,
And he was like, no, that's not cool. So yeah,
that's a normal thing for someone to think.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, and again, I also think that she was joking,
and even if she wasn't, Even if she wasn't joking
as a bisexual woman, a lot of bisexual women prefer
to date bisexual men because they understand a little bit better.
So I don't blame her.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
They're acting like she was across from Gail Kings with
her friends on a show that is about jokes and
hot wings like Sean Evans asked Great Questions, one of
the best platforms ever salute to him, but are we
going to act like that show is not also about
laughing at someone eating hot wings while they're trying to

(45:42):
give an answer. It's a it's a comedy based show.
Even though Sean asked real questions, right, they lead to humors.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
It's a lot of human that. But back to what
we didn't asked.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Call about Palestine. He gave him a hot wing and
he started crying, and then we started crying.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
So he said, now you know how Palestinians were. See,
I'm a bad I'm sorry I went too far. Sorry, sorry,
But back to what Damara said, bisexual women prefer.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
No, I didn't say by all bisexual women. Some bisexual
women might prefer bisexual men because they understand the queer
experience a little bit more. And also, if I am
around a lot of queer people, whether it's for work,
which I'm sure she is, whether it's for work, whether
it's for that's the community that I have. Straight men
may not be as comfortable in those same communities as

(46:31):
somebody who is also on the LGBTQ spectrum.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
And also at fair point, but I think it's hilarious
that we're trying to give a serious breakdown of a
fucking joke.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, well that's like the world, the world forced us
to do that. Everybody was upset, everybody was raging. I
saw some protesters. I was like, oh, okay, Well.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
They said heterophobia is a real thing. People are afraid
of straight people. I'm afraid of some straight people, yeah,
but not if they're straight. No, not because I'm generally
afraid of people.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, I just don't like. I just don't like some people.
Like it is what it is. Yeah, I don't know, man, listen, man.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
They were using that as an excuse. It's like the
tie ins of like why she's pushing that agenda and
she's also a plant, Like all of this just ties in.
Like it's like Doci is not a plant. Dochi has
been putting out bangers for a while that people weren't like,
really paying attention to, like, and she has talent. She's
not a fucking plant, no.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Fucking with her. Since twenty nineteen, I've watched this whole
entire thing, and she was very pro queer in twenty
nineteen as well. Isn't a new thing because she ate
a hot wing yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Or because she want to grant me like that's just
who she's.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Been and listen to her music of who and when
she's dated. It's been all over the place like this
isn't a weird thing at all. Well then say after
all of that, like you know what straight men aren't
for me?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Well, we was talking. We had a conversation last week
about the industry and when they push a button okay,
and when they you know, they put the Oh no.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I'm here to be objective just because I was a
pick me on the DOCI conversation, don't this is gonna
be you know, I support that that young lady. I
think she's incredibly talented. We support Doci over here. Sure
you can continue.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
So it was some things, some things hit the time
out over the weekend that I was just you know,
putting on Rory's radar. I saw some things. I saw
some things and I was like, you know, sending it
to Rory, I said.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
You hubered me to own the raidar.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I had to ooh. I was like, yo, this is
the button that I'm telling you about. When you see Doci,
you know now taking pictures with Pharrell, it's like, okay,
they're in the same rooms now, they're you know, Obviously
the you know fashion we get that Doci just walked
with uh what was the line she just walked walked
for uh D squared? I believe, yes she did that,

(48:48):
looked great, looking credible. Obviously, we know Pharrell's the creative
director at Louis, So now her and Pharrella are in
the same space. They're in the same room, take a
picture together. They know what the talk is obviously. Or
are we getting some music together? Dochie's a Grammy winning artist,
now Farrell's a Grammy winning producer and artists as well.
Are we gonna collab or are we gonna work together?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Okay, first of all, I want I don't think that's
pushing the button whatsoever, because again we've watched Dochi for
five years put in her work. Finally she's starting to
reap the benefits of that. TD is doing what they're
supposed to do as far as making sure this girl
is in front of us at all times post Grammy,

(49:30):
I think being in that fashion line makes sense. And
let's also not pretend like Fharell has not worked with
up and coming acts his entire career. Farrell has never
been one of those producers that's like it's I only
fuck with hove. Farrell will work with somebody we've never
heard of, and not even if they're signed to him,
like Farrell is one of those producers. To see him

(49:53):
with a new chick that could actually wrap that is
a breadth of fresh air based off a lot of
stuff that we've heard. I don't think that's that's the
industry pushing the button. I think that's Pharrell being Pharrell
and Dochi being doci.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
And also, did we see them together in a studio
or were they together impair us that fashion week?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
No Ma was saying, you know, that question came up
when they when they posted that photo. It wasn't for
the fashion shit. They knew all those comments would be music.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
This music sure. So now my thing with the whole
button thing was and I'm a you know, I don't
particularly care about numbers. I don't know what sells what.
But obviously that's a talking point here. So Dochi wins
best rap album? When Dochi's album came out, she only
she did what eleven thousand first week?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Here's here's where I won't give you push back on
the button thing. I think you can make a huge
case to question what the Grammys do to decide. I
know they have the committee everyone, So I'm going back.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
This is why I'm going back to the Grammy. You
do eleven thousand your first week again, I don't care
about numbers. I thought the album was you know, was good.
She had some good, good joints on there. Before. We
support her. But now you go, you win the Grammy.
We all we all know once you are a you
don't even have to win a Grammy. Once you're a
Grammy nominated artist, different things start to open up.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
It's right in the bio.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
But when they get this right, but when they give
you the Grammy, you have to understand that there are
other things. It's not just the Grammy. A whole other
lane in the world is now available to you, opens
up to you and to me, that is what I
call the button. Now eleven thousand not the greatest numbers,

(51:36):
but who cares when the product is dope?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I mean's post now she's smoking well because they got
her in front of some of the eyes again, so that.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Now the numbers are gonna go where they're gonna go
because I have a Grammar Grammy winning artist.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Well, okay, so let's let's not just paint that because
even before yes the Grammys.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Aren't win a Grammy, everything goes up, Yes, but the.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Numbers were going up already before the great Because now
first week numbers don't really matter. It matters that the
big artists are arguing about it and the fan base
are arguing about it. But we've had this conversation where
first week number doesn't matter. What are we doing on
the back end? What are we doing that next week
and that next week after that after this music video
comes out, or I do this late night performance, And.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Again, I don't really care about numbers for you all
the time. I don't know what albums that I like,
so I don't know what they saw.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
And even even with the industry and TDE and Universal
doing what they're supposed to do as far as getting
their artists in front of people, let's also not act
like all of twenty twenty four DOCI with every performance
every festival put together one of the best shows. Not
only that, did every late night shit? Did like seven

(52:44):
Denial is a River videos? Did one with Lisa, did
a real one? Did every live performance out of the
like she went and got herself in front of so
many people, and it resonated, So that's where the post
numbers are coming from. Of course the Grammy helps from there,
but let's not act like we didn't watch her on
video put in all this work. Anytime she got an

(53:04):
opportunity she over delivered. Tyler wanted her on. The album
was one of the best albums of last year, most anticipated.
Smoked her verse went out of control, and the industry's
not pushing the button for Tyler to go, Well, if
you guys want it, I'll put her on my album.
Then Nah Tyler thought she was dope and she smoked him.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
On that verte And that's why I came to cause
I know what you were lean were about to lean
into with Lauren Hill.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Oh, I'm gonna get to that.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
This is not a button push. Laurence Hill doesn't do shit,
she doesn't want it. Laurence Hill doesn't show up to
her own shows.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
I agree with you, and I wasn't gonna say the
industry pushed this button. Oh okay, I was going to say,
is it deserving? What do you mean is it does
her being on stage with Laurence Hill. The only person
that could decide whether she deserves that or not is
Lauren Hill of course, and I love that Laurence Hill
loves Doci. I think it was an incredible look. I
could never imagine if Lauren Hill wanted me to go
pick up her laundry, I would go do it. I'm

(53:57):
not here to shit on doche in that regard. I
think that's great. But back to the legends thing. When
we talked about superstars, mega stars, I'm talking about just
straight legends, I feel like maybe you need to put
in a little bit more work as far as proof
to stand next to certain people.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah, but nah, but don't do that. I feel like,
don't do that because when it happened for Carti, everybody
was happy. What what happened for Carti? Everybody was happy
praising all this ship.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Lauren bro Cardio, what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
She might she may have.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I don't know what legend has Carti Everson. I can
understand if you say that with Beyonce and Megan, but
what what Cardi? What legend has Cardi? Evers the next
to on stage with that like kind of like gave
her like that stamp.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Oh, I mean, it's been so many years since Cardi
has been lit. I'm pretty sure one of these legends
have had her on stage at some point, had her
at their concert like somebody.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
But this was a moment and I understand also the connection.
It's just Carti, Lauren, and Dolci that have rap album
in the year female. So yeah, I see that connection there,
and I see what dot she represents, even as the
image that's out there connections with Lauren.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
I'm just saying from a music standpoint, allegaty mixstape is fire.
I just don't know if that solidifies you to stand
on stage with somebody that doesn't do shit and has
that type of status, Like of course Lauren gets to
decide that book.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Come on, Yeah, but when you're all in the same
you know, it's only like you said, Cardi, Lauren and
Doci to have that best rap album as a Grammy M.
I mean, it's a you know, it's a it's a
small club.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
And I know I sound like I'm Hayden. I liked
the moment. I loved her doing the second verse, but
just the hip hop nerd in me, which is sometimes
a bad thing, is looking at that, like all right, man, Like,
do you know what Nicki Minaj had to do to
get on that song with Beyonce, Right, I didn't know
what that but solidified, Like but we've talked even with that,

(55:57):
conversations with Jaye and behind closed doors, certain people and
other legends don't look at it disrespectfully, like I know
what I put in to get to this point. Not
anyone can just stand next to me like, right, this
is solidified for a different type of person, I mean
and grat if they're signing to you, then you get
a look. But yeah, that's a button. Yeah, but just anybody, Nah,

(56:18):
that's that's a different type of thing. And I'm not
mad at the button being pushed, of course, not because
I don't want that to I don't think that's a
button pushed. I think Lauren know.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
That it's cool to recognize husband when the button was pushed.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
But we haven't acknowledged when a button was pushed for
Like we were talking around this, but when has a
button been pushed for DOCI? When did the industry push
a button on DOCI?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I think it was pushed Grammy Knight.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Pushing a button would would initiate or signify that she
didn't deserve her Grammy, do you not think that she not?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I'm not see and I think that's the con that's
kind of like the negative tone that comes with the
button being pushed is that you say, oh, somebody doesn't
deserve it. I'm not That's when I'm saying the button
was pushed. It's not because an artist doesn't deserve it.
When I say this, meaning like they recognized that, Okay,
we like this this artist. We think that this artist

(57:09):
has a good thing here, good talent. Let's magnify this,
let's amplify this, Let's let's make sure we get this
out to as much people that may not know about
this artist as possible, because we think that this is dope.
That's what I mean. Why when I say the button
was pushed, meaning like now everything is get ready to
go up, like okay, cool, we like her, boom send
up or boom, we like him send them up like that,

(57:31):
to me is what the button is. But not saying
the artist doesn't deserve it and it's not talented. I
don't want that to be the tone that I'm I'm pushing.
I'm just saying that we know when an artist is
like okay, we see them at sobs, we see them
at these smaller venues and then it's like something happens
to where it's now like, yo, they just sold out

(57:52):
fucking you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Like, but it goes back to our original Grammy host
Grammy episode when we were like, we don't really understand
if it's numbers what it is, but if they're gonna
go this route, at least they did get it right,
Like yeah, if there was some type of shit behind
the scenes where TDE did pay or whatever, the fuck,
all right, they got it right though, Like it wasn't
like there was a bullshit album that sold eleven thousand

(58:16):
copies and one right there is still matching with talent
level and music here. So at that point I kind
of stopped caring. It's more so like the Lauren stuff
with my nerdy brain that I'm like, Okay, that's a
that's a look, look like look a Grammy. Lauren Hill
brought you ONTs to how many people on earth.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Can say yeah, but why are you so surprised by that?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Can't even say that?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
But why why are you so surprised by that? When
she's in a very small club with Lauren Hill. Now
it's only Lauren and Carti that have best rap albums
as female as female rappers.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
And on top of that, the type of female rap
that though she does is like the type of shit
that Lauren Hill would out. Granted, though she does, people
will get it misconstrued. Does she does rap about a
bunch of did you shit? But she does it in
a way where you don't hear pussy, pussy, pussy, pussy
pussy every five seconds, which I'm sure Lauren as an
m siege has been waiting. Has Lauren has been waiting

(59:14):
to hear somebody like that? Like acknowledging Nikki, you don't
have a choice but to acknowledge Nikki because Nikki put
the work in over time and showed her her versatility.
Nicki has a lot of pussy rap all pussy rap, No,
but she has she has a lot of pick And
also Nicki was very sexualized throughout her career. That's not
something that hit. Nikki was the one that made the
big fake but a thing, so she has she was

(59:37):
very sexualized in her career.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
But well, there's videos of Lauren and Nikki Yah together
backstage when she was bowing down, which I YEA get it.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
What I was saying is it took Nikki a long
time to get to that spot. When we're talking about
why she might have gotten there faster, I think Lauren
Hill might identify with a little bit more. I don't
think it's just because of VI Grammy. I think it's
I think Lauren really likes her and likes her music.
I think that that's what it is. So when it
comes to that, when it comes to a Colt sign,
no matter how legendary the person is, you can't you

(01:00:09):
can't really take that away or say they're not deserving
that because I, no matter who I am, I'm a
legend whatever I say that I like this artist and
I want more people to listen to this artist. That's
what a co sign is. That's like somebody if somebody
would have said that Sierra didn't deserve her Genet co
sign at the time, like it, or Megan didn't deserve
her Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Colt, No, No, I get it. I did see a
lot of people saying it was similar to when Game
Snoop and I forgot what other West Coast artists where
there gave Kendrick passed to torch to him like in
la that whole and everyone's like, oh, he only had
section eighty out at that time. While I agree, I

(01:00:47):
don't think they're comparable Section eighty and no respect to alligators,
I think I had a number one of my favorite
rap album last year. Section eighty is Security NUM's Fred
of You. Section eighty is Section eighty. Like that was
a moment in there, as if we knew solidified at
that point, Kendrick Lamar was different and this guy wasn't
going anywhere. I'm not saying no, she's gonna go anywhere.

(01:01:09):
I hope she stays. I can't wait to see her growth,
But that to me was way different. And even then
I was like, damn, that was quick snoop and game
co signing off your first your first tape, Yeah, I
mean technically the one that broke.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I thought that was even a little crazy. So I
was pulled up this nod shit because this is kind
of what I was talking about. This was on hip
Hop is Dead. Eight years in the game. I'm sorry
on your four years in the game. We can have
a conversation eight years in the game. I invite you
on vacation ten years in the game, after I enjoyed
my fame. Only then I'll even let you pick my
brain right, Like you you have to be four albums

(01:01:46):
in to even talk to me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah, I understand, I but I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
And again this is totally but this is the type
of music and point of view that I grew up
on as far as how rappers did their co signing
or like even being a like, yeah he nice, but
he can't be next to me. Yeah, he has to
prove a lot more to even get in this rund.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
But we spoke about that like it's it's a real
thing when it's like yo, like you got to prove
that you're gonna be here while like we talked about
the average lifespan of a rapper being what a year?
Two years?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
So like you think somebody like Nads is gonna open
up his his bandwidth and his fucking you know ip
to somebody that's only gonna be around for like eighteen
months and give them like it's like, no, you got
to prove that one you respect this culture. One you're
gonna add to it, enhance it and help grow it
and push it forward, and then you can sit down
and kick it and be like yo, like so nah's

(01:02:39):
like when you did, it's like that's a rite of
passage to people that care about this culture that you know,
they know that they have to protect it and they
have to you know, leave it in better hands than
they they found it. So it's a lot of these rappers. Yeah,
you don't get to sit down and kick it and
talk to certain people unless you prove that, Yo, I'm
in this for the right reasons. I'm in here to

(01:03:01):
enhance this, I'm in here to grow this. I'm in
here to push this. And I'm dope and I'm talented,
and you know, I'm not just some person that just
caught a record and went viral and now I think
that I'm you know, it's like, no, that don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Go like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I hear that. And if we were talking about, like
you said with nas, that makes sense. We can't really
have that conversation in regards to Laurence Hill because everything
that you just described, Why do I have to prove
that I'm gonna be here for a while when you
ain't proved that you won't be here for a while.
You had one classic album, we got up out of here.
And that's not me disrespecting Laura Hill, but Lauryn Hill
had once that's well known. She had one solo album,

(01:03:34):
amazing album, legendary album, and it dipped. So why would
I have to prove to you that I'm gonna be
here for ten years when you didn't do that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Okay, and it's hypothetical. Laura Hill is still Lauren Hill,
and even though she hasn't put out music, she's still
Lauren Hill. And if she wanted to actually go and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
That when album is better than people's entire catalogs.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
For sure, No, for sure, I agree with you, but
I'm just like you longevity and so does does quality matter?

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Does long jevity? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
But both?

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Let's let's also like not pretend like there's not a
Fuji's catalog for sure, Like I understand Blood Off Reality
is probably not everyone's go to, but let's not act
like the score doesn't exist. And who carried that motherfucking
album right into miseducation? And I know you guys cloud
me for this. I think her unplugged performance of completely
original music is a classic fucking album.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I think it's amazing, So yeah, I get the critique,
but let's that's Lauren Hill. If she wanted to go
and fucking sell with Barclays tomorrow, she's doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Now we're saying all this, who really earned the spot
and who Lauren Hill should have brought out? Bad Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Let me tell you something that would never happen. Bad
Baby will never touch the stage with Lauren Hill. Would
never happen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Alaband would have some problems.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Foggy Row too. Foggy Row popped out on that show
with Lauren as well. There another artist that I I
really I fuck with. Shout out to them and Laura
Hill for bringing them out and sharing the stage with
some some up and coming and pretty dope talent.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
So you don't think bad Baby was snubbed at the
Lauren Hill performance.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
No she she She's not snubbed her new disad, No
she will. She will never ever touch the stage with
the likes of a Lauren Hill. Love, love the Love
the diss record, love what she's doing in that world. Though.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Listen for those that that don't know, that aren't on Patreon.
Our episode that came out yesterday, we played and got
Mare up to speed on the Bad Baby Alabama. What's
her last name? Bar She put Barker there, Okay, I
wasn't sure she had a different name. She didn't want
to be an Nepple baby, Alabama Barker beef and over
the weekend after Maul heard all of those flames, all

(01:05:45):
of that gas, that kerosene, that ether ship that makes
you burn, You fucking can't even speak ninety three. Let
she got that ninety three form makes your soul burn?

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Slow?

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yeah, bad baby said, Oh, you're taking way too much time,
and teased a twenty second snippet of her This would
be the fourth this at this point, third, this would
be the third. You know, I love I love the Barkers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Crashed.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
I'm playing one A shot you the crime, baby, you
call it a by.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
The lastest that I dropped running back to your daddy,
I don't know when I last seen my pop.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
I just killed you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Wait wait wait, you said you keep running back to
your daddy. I don't know when the last time I
seen my pops. She's talking now, she's she don't tapped
into a whole different type of You know what I'm
saying with that talk, You're going to a whole different
fan meet the Barkers. Yeah, she going to that's coming,
she going ship And she got the Alabama Barker looking
like in the video that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
One's still hot bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
What you've seen in my last video, you posting up
big Mama like she with you, bitch? You weird.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
This could used to be fat for the Ozimpics.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
You was a bot bop Ye, you was a bop
bop bop Yo. This is yo. Why, this is why
I don't fuck with y'all because now y'all got me
invested in this type of bullshit. Now y'all got me
looking for the for the Bad Baby Alabama barka like
y'all got me about to jump into that part of
the social world.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
You didn't see that the group chat yesterday. Me and
Marison Pach have our notifications on, like we're waiting for this.
This snippet was too crazy. I need to know. The
moment this shit drops, I'll go, you know, and they
do the countdown for premieres. I'll be in her super
chat donating.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I don't know if Bad Baby is writing this, but
she's delivering the hell out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Of this like she she sounds why you will question
her pen I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Mean, she sounds very comfortable. I have to believe that
she's writing it because she sounds very comfortable rapping and
like really delivering these bars like she's talking spicy on
this ship.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
You keep running back to you, daddy, don't know when
I last seen my pops. It's crazy as fuck when
I heard that ship my bit says.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
She said, she's saying it like it's a bad thing
to see your pops, like you keep running back. I
don't know when the last time I seen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
That's not a I was sitting next to my dad
when I listen to this, that's not like a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Good like a bad baby. We shouldn't be like saying
that like it's a bad thing that somebody sees their dad,
like she said.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
I blink and then one eighty two shots.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Travis might Travis a different type of drum now, Travis.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Might be on the clock now, different type of drum.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Yoda, that was her, that was her crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
That's how just I don't even catch it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Travis might be on the clock now. He might have
to get in this. He might have to get in
there now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
He can't lebron a situation.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
He talking with it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
We're gonna do a drum solo about her.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
She told my blink one eighty two.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Okay, see now, because we talked about this on Patrio
Metro got in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
It made a beat. He said, I can't rap, but yeah,
he made a beat. Travis might have to get you
know me, like he gonna have to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
And we did talk on Patreon. Subscribe now because.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Alabama getting washted right now, let's just keep it a beat.
Alabama was getting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Travisy start acting like Lebron and fucking confront some of the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Keep my daughter's name otter, fuck your mouth. He got
to run down on bad baby like, yo, keep my
daughter's name out your fucking mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
That baby being stephen A and the same like real
talk man. But Jamaric says, make a good point because
we were saying, yeah, Travis's gonna stay out of this,
like that's his daughter's business whatever. I mean, they they
said your name, yeah, what's the lead singer in the
bass player? You guys on the clock too, blink one?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Yeah? You know they all got to get back in
because she didn't what's my age again?

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
She just said, I blink and it's one eighty two
shots Like that's not that's not a diss, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
A just yeah, but don't put me in your Ontoendrews though.
That's why I'm mad a if I'm Travis Balker, don't
even make me a party. I'm not playing this game
with y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
No, because I got the drum.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
The kit is right here in the garage, like, don't
play with me. I was going past the kit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
It's a different type of kit. But now you have
to stay consistent because after the like that verse when
Kendrick didn't say anyone's name, he just said it's big
me and then did the K nine for all the
dog shit you said, he they got a reply. So yes,
Bad Baby did high level elite rapping on Sondras, but
it did say blankewn Eddie too in that bar. Just

(01:10:06):
because it was some shit that was, you know, like
cannabis level, doesn't mean that she didn't say anyone's name.
She said Blakeney too. It's on the clock, all three
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I mean, I'm just thank y'all for you know, making
me away of this situation. But I hate that. I'm
like really looking forward to like these rhymes and these
late songs now, like I'm really waiting to hear with
Bad Like I'm mad she's just teasing us with this
little twenty clips that she just gave us Noah, drop
the record. I wanted to hear what you say because
if that's the ball, well, I don't know when the
last time I seen my pops. All right, man, all

(01:10:38):
right man, she we now we dealing with somebody that
don't care what they like. I'm let y'all know everything
she cares. Yeah, she don't care about shit.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
If you want to know what we're talking about, if
you're completely lost right now, please sign up for the
Supervisor level of Patreon, where we break the beef down.
We do lyrical breakdowns like everything we really get into it.
Somebody popped over this like it's real.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Gradyst Beef of all time doing a lyrical breakdown on
Bad Baby and Alabama.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Barker is so fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Look what y'all got me here doing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
And we've been wrong a lot with these brad battles.
We even said with the Draken Kennick, sy oh, it's'd
be cool to just stay on wax and that went
off the rails. Kanye already cleared a sample for Bad Baby.
I think Travis is now going to get involved because
just Code of the Streets said your name, you gotta
get you have to be there wait till Kanye West
show up in her video. Wait till we get a
Bad Baby Kanye WESTDP.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Now, Kanye already came out and put out his statement.
Kanye said, I don't know. I just cleared the record.
I do not have a verse. That is false because
it was rumors going on that Kanye had a verse
on Bad Baby song, and he was like, I do
not have a verse. I just got off the phone
with Travis Barker and I have nothing to do with this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
I can think of one. I can think of one
person on earth that has a Kanye West sample. I
think it's j Cole on workout. Yeah, also saying by
something who has a Kanye West sample? So many fucking samples.
He knew exactly what the fucking fact. Yeah, the fact
that he cleared that is crazy. He just thought it
was a song. No, you didn't, you know, you knew
what tom it was.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
I can't believe Kanye cleared that sample.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Kanye, because Kanye heard that ship and was he doesn't
clear samples.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I'm saying this is this is deeper than rap.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
No, I understand what you're saying now, but that's why
I'm just like, just just that alone, is like Kanye
really cleared a sample for this. Yeah, yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
There's children involved. Yeah, this is deeper than rap.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Yeah, I get it. I'll get it now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
But yeah, y'all can check that out and check that
out on Patreon. Unfortunately, bad Baby get.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
His kids back. Then with when bad Baby get his
kids Kanyan.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Kanye's kids shut up stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I mean, he put it on us and we didn't
do it. So I feel like she owes him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Bad Baby's house was targeted by gunman after we're not
keeping it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Wrap no more.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Now we're gonna move it to something else. Yeah, just
that fast. The house has been targeted by gunman, Like
all right, man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
The three gunmen attempted to into her home in Los
Angeles just minutes after her baby father got to the house.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Okay, I known nothing about her baby father. Also, one
of my favorite parts of Patreon was breaking down that legend.
But you have to subscribe to hear that. That's the
motherfucking goes their baby father. Yeah, I mean his name
Lamar Lavon Levon. So now they after he obviously he is.
He's into some ship that we know nothing. That's I
don't think this has anything to do. We joked about

(01:13:28):
the rap battle being involved with the shooting. But I
think her baby father is he's in over his head
on something currently and they are not happy about it. Yeah,
so I don't think you don't think Bamo was sent
of the goons.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
No, I think that bad Baby should stay away from
whoever his dud is because he obviously got some shit
going on that is now coming to her home.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
So yeah, we don't want to child is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Yeah, we don't want to see. We don't want to
see any of that ship. So please, man, I just
let's have jokes, let's have fun, listen to some raps,
break down some bars. Last, but we don't want to
open our phones to see that something happened to anybody,
especially not Bad Baby like this is. That would just
be absolutely fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Of course, not other new music came out before we
move into our next topic. We had predictions about the
Jello and Glow really stop looking at me, and last,
what the fuck it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Y'all'm laughing at myself.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
We had predictions about the Jello.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
I still didn't hear this record, so y'all take it away.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Have you have you heard Tweaker.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Yes it okay, No, I won't even say that because
I like Tweaker. Y'all know I've been a big tweaker.
I like to tweaker was good. This is not good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
It's a diet tweaker.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Oh, not saying y'all not jacketing. Because when we heard
this was coming out, y'all was like, oh, this is
gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
That's why I said on it, this is gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
And now that shit fell flat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Oh I was completely wrong. Yeah, that's why I was laughing.
I came in here on birthday. It's on record. I said,
this is a certified hit. There's no way Glowilla got
on this yellow ship if it wasn't something that was
pro pech.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
This is shit. I don't like about them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Oh, apologizing accounability, not that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Thank you for the apology, not that, not that, because
one hand, how one hand can he say, oh, you
didn't hear you heard tweaker?

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
So basically it's the same record. How is this trash?

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
But in Tweaking it's a shittier version of Tweaker that
we didn't need.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Man, both of them records is fucking terrible. I didn't
even hit his record, and I know it's trash.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Yes, it was a it was a waste of a
good glow reverse. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Yeah, the taker of everybody that somewhere, every always trying
to chase a viral moment. You went viral with the
tweaking ship. But me as a music head, a music fan,
I'm listening to it, I'm like, oh, this is Chad GBT,
cash money, hot boys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
This is I mean, that's what they did again. This
one just had a way shittier clip.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Then when I seen them at All Star Weekend we
seen him perform, It's like, fam, just go sit now.
You're still trying to chase this viral moment. We get it.
The Jello, the Ball Brothers, NBA All Star week and
they're trying to tie al that in. I get it.
But I'm a music fan, bro, this is your disrespecting
the ecosystem of hip hop. It is bullshit. Go sit down.
You went viral, salute, work on your game, try to

(01:16:10):
get back in the G League or something.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
This rap shit stop, Bro, it's not It's very seldom
that ballplayers are great rappers. Shout out to Dame Dollar,
shout out the Shaq even cob Ai, those guys. You
know who's the guy that the kid, the Christian rapper
in the NBA. What's his name? He went to Duke
tall Kid? I forgot his name.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Disciple, Jeff Disciple, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Call back to Patrearch callback Sorry, Marvin Bagley?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Is it Badley?

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I think he I think he's Christian rap. You know,
he tries to do his thing, you know what I mean.
But it's like, just sit down, man, Jello, sit down.
I know they're trying to recoup that deal, y'all say anything.
I didn't even I wouldn't even press play on this record.
I wouldn't even press play.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I don't really see. I think Twiggers are going to
continue to play for a few more fur months. I
don't know if this song is going to make any mix.
I don't think we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
So you don't see Jello being on stage with nas
at Radio City in front of them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
For I mean, I think it's deserving. Yeah, I mean
I would help it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
You think he made his bones already.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Unfortunately, January's past, so we couldn't award him Album of
the Year with that one. But I think even if
he doesn't have a rap album for next year's cycle,
I think we should still give.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
It to Okay, yeah, I mean well, I mean no surprise, dah.
I know that it would be trash because the first
one is trash as far as I'm concerned. But y'all
seem to like it and had y'all little moment with
it and made tiktoks and all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
This other shit. Okay, yeah, we was tweaking.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
It wasn't no tiktoks. It's not no tiktoks. There's not
no tiktoks to this one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
I'm sure. I'm sure def Jam is going to put
a dance together and pay influences on TikTok to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Okay, but that's what everyone does that all right, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Would y'all watch I know y'all don't want to see Jello.
Would y'all want to watch Antonio Brown perform?

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Put that shit on?

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
That record? To me is better than tweaking. Antonio Brown
record is better than tweaking. I don't give fuck with
y'all talk.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Okay, which version?

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Wait? Version?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Let me let me let me see, like how deep
a music head you are with AB. The live version
with the DJ doing the ad libs in the back
is the one that was hard. That's like, if you're
a real music head, that's the version you listen to,
Like day twenty six, I want You for Real ballad,
like the ballad live performance, that's the one we listened to.

(01:18:24):
You don't listen to the album version. So if you're
a real a B fan and you really into the
CT shit and let me die by it, you only
listen to the live DJ version.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
And you got to have a concussion. You say you
had to have had a concussion at some point your life, you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Know, talk about like certain Pink Floyd songs or even
certain like Beatles songs, Grateful Dead, led Zeppelin, that you
had to be on acid or be on a subst
stuff like it's good as it is, but wait until
you take this substance, run your head into a fucking wall,
and go listen to AB. You'll see the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Whole different experience, a whole different abyes, the same conversation,
same conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Dark side of your brain, right, I get it. I'm
I was gonna want to go to Firefest anyways.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
You've been saying that We've been saying that for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Me and Justice are are very very serious about going
with the like just as as as patrons, like just
ticket paying people. We didn't even try to like reach out.
We just want to go.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Well, it's supposed to be in Mexico. But the director
of tourism for Islamuher said that they have no knowledge
of this event or contract only person.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
They don't genius.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
This this the rollout. They don't have no knowledge of
fake story. They let y'all know that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
How don't come to Mexico mad when you niggas get
blogy and cheese sandwiches. Again, that ain't got nothing to
do with Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
He said. He continues to suggest that there are red
flags all over the place, including the coordinates of the
festival location on his website, which just lead to the
ocean between Cancun and Isla.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Mohair is all right, I'm gonna put it this way
for a yacht party, no disrespect to the locals of
the Bahamas. I know they get it shaken as well.
It's not just a vacation resort. Get shaken in the Yeah,
that's one thing. If Billy starts fucking with the carts out.
That's gonna be a different documentary. You could play a

(01:20:08):
little bit and get out of the Bahamas quickly. It's
closer to Florida. Yeah, dog, they are going to put
Billy's head on a fucking stick in the middle of town.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Yeah, don't hey Billy to check this out.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
We liked the hustle, We respect it. I respect hustle. Man.
Do not go to Mexico with this ship playing games.
If you're gonna do this festival, do the festival. Because
I like Rory, I would I ain't go lie if
it looks like it's really gonna happen, I would want
to go just to see. Hell how y'all put it together?
Because I do think that. You know, he had intentions
on getting the first one. They just got out of hand,

(01:20:41):
became a bigger, you know, load than he thought.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Pause.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Now you know what to expect. You should have everything
in order to make this thing a real event. Don't
go to Mexico playing with these people and have them
have all these tourists come there and then it ain't
no event and it's boloney sandwiches in styrofoam plates. Don't
do that. He was Tom an.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Do you follow Billy on Instagram?

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
No, Rory, I do not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
I don't, but he still makes my algorithms, like when
he does videos about Firefest too. He his parole board
is gonna have to have a conversation with him. He's
learned nothing, he was not rehabilitated whatsoever. He's sitting there
like all the vip Combata packs are done now, all
sold out in one hundred, one hundred of them in
five minutes. Like, oh, you learn nothing and you don't

(01:21:25):
even have a location.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
He's doing all that In the directive, Tourism is saying
he has no knowledge of this. The coordinates are in
the middle of.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
The ocean, and Billy just walking around the West village gloating.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Yeah, Billy, Billy, Billy boy, Billy boy, you on your
waits jail a kind you on your way direct the
tourism don't even know what's happened. Is he even allowed
to go out of the country. He's got to still be.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
On Parole's a federal crime. Yeah, you can't leave the
fucking country.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
How long? How long was that? Though he might be
he might be good now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
He got out posts COVID though he was in during COVID.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
They're like two years he's been.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Yeah, so he probably good. He probably not on restriction
no more. He probably not the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Only I feel like the only setback with those like
white collar crimes where they go to a resort. I
feel like you're just on probation forever because you don't
really get any years.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
But then also like it's technically if it's for work,
is it does?

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Like you think Jordan Belford is still not on You
think he can still trade?

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
No, no, no, no, no no, let me tell you what.
Jordan Belfer can't do it. He can never trade a
stock again in his life. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Yeah. I don't know if Billy can just run out
there without some parole officer saying it's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Well, let's plan a trip to Mexico. Whether it happens
or whether it's.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Not, we cover it. What is that May thirtieth they said.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
They see from May thirtieth to June something.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
If I'm not mistaken, this sounds bad. Don't feel like
nothing is happening. Yeah, we ain't seen a picture a flyer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Y'all know how close May thirtieth is. Yeah, that's what
you don't have a location. I think this is a
rollout honestly for what though? What is he rolling out
Firefest too? I think planting these stories of their going
through the same thing or whatever, knowing they have something
legitimately booked and done that they're going to announce in

(01:23:13):
a week could be a strategy. No, because this is
jowing more attention like that the way we're talking about,
like damn Billy, he ain't learned fun And then you
see us certified it's sponsored by Verizon, like all this
shit where it's like this is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Legit May thirtieth through June second, May thirty through June second,
and Directive Tourism has no idea what is going on?
We have no knowledge of this. This ain't happening, man.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
We're gonna bring John Rule with us too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Job play games if you want another time you got
you got out of the first one, the second one on.
They might tell you to go in that same cell
with Billy board Ya. Y'all gonna be sellies now for sure.
Either way. I hope it does go down though, because
I think the idea of this this festival was dope.
It was, it was amazing, but they need to make
it happen just the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Right Waystically, it's a fucking night.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Of course the idea is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
But throwing a festival in another country is just.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
And like on an island, people camping. It's yeah, it's
not like Coachella where there's a real infrastructure. They didn't
have fucking plumbing, let alone food, So imagine drinking the
moment you land. They sent them all to that bar
because they still weren't set up. You watch people pouring
tequila down, they fucking throw and have no room. Then

(01:24:28):
then you get there and it's a tent and an
air mattress that's soaking wet, wake up with your hangover
and there's no water.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
That's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
That's I cannot believe that the fact that that really
happened to people.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
People that have nobody, nobody that went there. Have they
ever been on a podcast and talked about it that
they experienced.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
There was the one guy, there was one Ginger guy
that was in the dock, the one on Netflix that
talked he was just someone that bought a ticket about
the experience. But podcast wise, I'm sure there has been that.
I just haven't seen. You haven't seen anybody do a
round table and just go find them. No, I'm just
a lot people are embarrassed. They didn't want to say
they was there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Yeah, but I think that but everybody having a you know,
a studio and pot and podcast now, I think that
we would see more people saying, like, yo, that ship
was absolutely Aside from the documentary, I've never seen anybody
on social media talking about the experience. At the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Well, I feel like those people are probably embarrassed because
that's probably stuper as fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Yeah, but at that point you laugh at yourself like, yo,
they got me, Like, I've just never seen anybody talking
about this shit. But whatever, Hopefully the second one is
actually happens, and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
It's conspiracy and we should look into that. Maybe it
never happened, Maybe it's all just a everything is in
a conspiracy. Or I'll tell you what's not a conspiracy whatsoever?
Billy trying to put a B on the island. What
happens when you put a D on the island?

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Again?

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
That was a great segue.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Fuck y'allag Have y'all spoken to Clay lately?

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Nah spoken to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
On DM probably like a month ago.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
So a D from love is blind I forgot which
season that was, but obviously a D and Clay were
to breakout and start a couple of that show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Yes, and we had Clay on our podcast and had
an incredible conversation, one of accountability, one of laughs, one
of redemption. I feel like a real learning experience. And
I was not aware that his former fiance went on
another show. Is this the same show? I know, Nicholas,
she is running a racket? Is blind?

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Love Island? Is this love? Fiance is from Love is
Blind UK? His name is Ali, And I'm not sure
if this was on A Lover's Blind show or not,
but they talked about it on the reunion yea, and
they showed it and so congrats to a D. She
is now engaged love That to Ali from Love is

(01:26:51):
Blind UK. Now, while we are happy for a D,
she's been down this road before. She's been engaged.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
She's been down that aisle, if you will, she's been.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Down that aisle. She's been engaged, you know, she's she's
been happy, you know. So you know, because we we
love a D and we support her, Hopefully this is
going to go all the way through and she'll actually
be married and be happy and you know, have a
beautiful family. Because she seems to be a deserving and
deserving woman. So congrats to a d getting engaged.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
I think it's real because everybody is like crying, and
they don't do that often. So I feel like it's
like she finally love.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
They cry in the pods when they haven't even seen
the person.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
You know, I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about
the other peoples are kind of like, I'm so happy
for her, like she got her true love. So I
think it might be real.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
I hope so. I hope so because Ad she seems
like a sweet, sweet woman.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
So how you think Clay Handling?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I do want to say, our brother, our brother in Christ, Clay,
we loved blindness. Clay, I'm on your side, he said,
he loves Ad. I'm on your side. Bro. You know
you know I give it up. I think now finally,
after this happened, Clay is ready to make an honest
woman out of her. Of course I think now he's like, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Probably right now. I don't do that, man, Clay, Clay, he.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Wouldn't have been ready if they didn't get engaged. But
since they got engaged, I think Clay is ready. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Now you gotta wait until they get married and she
gets pregnant. Then he could like that. I was supposed
to be my baby.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Nahe Clay is not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
He's not that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
This is what Clay ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Man, after they post like the wedding video, I could
see Clay going in the d MS saying something cryptis like,
but does he make you laugh?

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Man, why are you paying Clay to beat this douchebag
like that? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Nicholas paid him to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
I think Clay is. I think he's happy for I
think he's spoken.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
I'm sure he's happy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
He's spoken about being the woman. And you know, he
just wasn't you know? He wasn't ready? He was I
think Clay was. We don't give Clay well, I did,
but we don't as a whole, don't give Clay enough
respect or you know, praise for being honest with his
true feelings. Like y'all, I just wasn't you know? I
was really I wasn't gonna I respect.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Him and worse if he went through it again.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
It's crazy that he left her at the altar. I'm like, damn, bro,
you could have did that the day before, the night before.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
But then we wouldn't be talking about him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
But then we wouldn't be talking.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
It is what it is, and that's not shame to Clay.
Me and Claire are friends, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
We are friends now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
I know he was happy when he saw Dant for
her happiness for Clay's misery.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
Clay is not gonna be miserable. Clay is currently in
some pussy right now. He hasn't even woken up instantly
the news yet, Like what are we? Why are we
act like we don't know who we talk about?

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Clay Clay, he's happy, He's I'm sure he's happy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
For he says he loves her. And when you love somebody,
really love them, love, especially when you love them enough
not to be with them, you are happy when they
find happiness. They're probably a little.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Bite but great the Great May said, I want to
see you happy, girl, even if it's not with me.
What I'm saying, yeah, you wasn't you wasn't come. You
still eat spaghetti sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
When they said that, and then and then fifty remixed
the song and said, I don't want you happy if
you're not with me, I identified way more of a
fifty on. Oh man, that's so that's a bullet wound, bitch.
I ain't yea a.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Never ya ain't never like had to watch somebody you
love be happy with somebody else. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
I think that's a saying to be happy for them.
I was happy for them, Okay, like genuinely happy. I'm
in the crib nobody around you're still happy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Yeah, I'm genuinely happy for any girl I've ever dated
that it's happy now, Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
I've seen people that have done me wrong be miserable,
and I can't lie that I didn't sit alone in
my house with a smile. Oh but the opposite of
if I cared for someone in love, Yeah, of course
I want to see them happy. There's one them fucking
miserable because we're not together.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Like I dated women that after we've dated and you know,
broke up or whatever, they start dating dudes that I
know any ship, And I'm just like, but wait a minute,
how you how you was having all of this with
me and was? But now you sit here front like
you happy with this?

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Cut it off?

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Lot better you learn how to dress it up, dress
it up and make it real for me?

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Is dirty back okay? Is internal dirty mac?

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
What do you mean is I felt the same feelings
Malls had, but I didn't express them because that would
be dirty macking. But I didn't feel them.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
No, So then that that's just feelings. You're free to
feel whatever emotion.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
I expressed it to the woman like, No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Internal mutual friends.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Was getting that off, right?

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
No, I never said it to like a mutual friend.
I'm just I just like, look at the related I'm
just like, I know he ain't shit, Like I know
you're not happy because he do shit and he got
shipped with him that I never had in our relationship.
So how to like what?

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
She went up to Tomkins to see the dudes to
trust just.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Like baby mama, drama shit like that, Like he's probably alcoholic,
you know, coming home, we probably done smacked you a
couple of times, like oh my Jesus Christ, yeah, that
type of shit. It's like you still like you ain't happy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
There are women not me, but there are women who
would prefer domestic violence.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Over There are women that there's a term of that
of whatever Stockholm syndrome or whatever the fuck it is
with victims start feeling okay with their abuser. That doesn't
mean it's good. No, they're not happy. They think that okay,
but they're not. No.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Some women, again, just to clean it up a little bit,
some women do prefer toxic environment, toxic energy. They're used
to it. That's what they used to when they have
a healthy When they have a healthy environment, they don't
know how to accept it and be like, Yo, there's
nothing wrong. Everything is fine in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
This scenario, you were the healthy environment.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Well in comparison to Homie. Absolutely, Now I got my
ship with me. Everybody got this shit?

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
What do you think your shit is? Let's dive deep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
Yeah, we talk about mind every episode.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Probably lack of communication, like when it comes to certain
things that I'm just like when in a relationship that
I just wouldn't address maybe like things like that. I
know how that could be like strenuous on a relationship
not addressing certain things and not talking about certain things yet,
but I also do make it a comfortable space to

(01:32:57):
talk about it. I may not initiate the conversation, and
there's certain things I mean I want to talk about like,
I'm not going to keep trying to prove my you know,
loyalty and honesty to a woman, Like if you don't
trust me, let's just not deal with each other. That's
my result. Okay, you don't trust me, cool, we can
go goss every ways. I'm not gonna sit there and
keep being on probation, Like, yo, home by eight thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
If you communicated, you could be trusted.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Yeah, I'm not. No, but I but I do. But
I'm not going to communicate my every move. I'm not hood.
I'm a grown man. I'm not gonna be like yo,
stopping here, Hey, stopping here, shared my location, going here.
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Well, maybe she just wanted you to communicate at the
times you weren't just trying to be instead of a like, yeah,
what you're doing tonight, It's like yo, yo, you're still.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Out question mark at the times I wasn't trying to
beat yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Like that was the time you would communicate best is
when you were trying to fuck or have her coming through.
Lady of the night.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Okay, no, Rory, lady trying to paint me. You pain
me as gay, and then now you paint me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
As a guy to this, my mother did that. I mean,
I know I'm affiliated, yeah, but you're with her.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
But you set the screen though she shot the shot,
but you set the screen for Mom to get.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
That, because I guarantee you ain't getting angry like mom,
fuck out of here, like MAM's not gay, Like you
don't even say no shit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
You need to that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
That would probably make me even more gay. Like if
he defended me to his mother like that, like talk
like that, my mom would look at me like your
old fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
I about to say, somebody up be like yo, wait,
that was a little too too aggressive, like you I
y'all good over there at the studio, like what y'all
be doing?

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
My mom's when those older school Irish women that just
puts gay on everyone, like that's I like it grew
up in the church.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Yeah I'm familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
She you know, well, give him to college, but they
do freshman orientation in the summer before and like your
parents can be I guess there for like the beginning
part of it. And I was hanging with someone that
was gonna be on the track team as well, who
I didn't think was gay. But my mom, as she
was leaving and I was saying goodbye, said, oh, I'm
so proud of you. It's like, for what, hanging out
with somebody gay? Like that's cool that you don't care.

(01:35:02):
I'm like, I don't think he You spent like thirty
minutes with him. He was just at our orientation.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
Moms. I respect mam. She know her gay dolls up?

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Okay, in her defense, he was gay. He is now
a flight attendant.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Oh yeah, if you're a flight attended, you're definitely Flame
from soul play. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
What's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
The fact that you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Remember his name is crazy. I didn't even know that
that was his name, and soul plain.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Flame was the name of that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
It wasn't aware that character even with.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Like afought that was just the gay flight attendant. I
know his name Flame?

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Did you just grind at me a little?

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
That's a class.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
He was hilarious, man, That ship was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Right, Are you automatically gay? If you're like a male
flight attendant.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
Trying to get us out of here, trying to get
us out.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
To be honest, that's a cool gig. Like, I don't
think it's I didn't don't. I don't think straight man.
See this is what he does.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
No, no, no, that's cool, gig. I never said it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
I'm saying I think straight men should pursue that more
like that's a really good gig. But I think everyone
has in their mind that that is more of a
woman in gay men job. But there's a lot of
straight men that do that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
And yo, this is what he does. Man. He tried
to leave me on the island by myself the whole time.
He got a commander here too, Nigga, you got a
command it right next to my Yes, you feel like
male flight attendants are gay.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
I've definitely seen a straight male flight attendant more than once.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
I mean, if you could count them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
That means he counted yeah, straight male flight.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Statistically, yes, women, then gay men. I'm sure if we
looked up those stats of who works as flight attendant
would be women, then gay men, and then straight men.
But there is straight men.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
Yeah, there's definitely straight menn. Yeah, because I've flirted with
a flight attend.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
We have to bring actually, let's bring back d uh
more straight men need to get those jobs. I think
I think we are being oppressed. I think dot she
oppressed us yesterday. I think the flight attended schools are
oppressing us d I is important for straight white men
to get that job. Well, maybe you want to we
want to be sky waitresses.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Maybe y'all don't apply because y'all think it's a gay job.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
You how much pussy you could crush?

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
I wouldn't say a heterosexual man, he don't want to
be cracking open ginger rails on a flight. You want
to fly that motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
That's I don't think that's the only thing that should
be cut out of this.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
What why should that be cut out?

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
There's nothing wrong we're cracking open ginger rails.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Yes, nothing wrong with that at all. And there's plenty
of straight men that do that already at as bartenders.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
Except they don't get to fly for free.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Yeah, yeah, the flight You know, remember the Christen in
the video when they were the only two straight guys
at uh the all girls school?

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
You would those numbers you crushing pussy. I'll open a
ginger rel for that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
I just think that statistics would show that there's a
very low number of heterosexual male flight attendants. Yeah, I agree, Okay,
that's all the numbers on.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
That's all you were saying, number that's the only thing
that you I'm concluding. I'm just saying the numbers are
on my side. The conversation is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
I think that the numbers support what I'm saying, is
all I'm trying to say here, that's it, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
I also don't think there's a high number of gay
men on oil rigs in the North Sea. I hear you. Yeah,
there's just you're playing the stackers. That's all exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
That's all I'm doing. Your numbers got the marriage hip bartender.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
So there is around seventy nine percent female flight attendants
and twenty one percent male flight attendants.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
That's what they don't higher number one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
I thought, Yeah, they don't say how many of them
are straight.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
But that would be a great, like retirement job. I
would do that, just get to travel every where.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Why not become a pilot because that's a lot. Why not,
because that's like if I say I want to go
because history, and you're like, yeah, I want to go
into dentistry or I want to be a dental assistant,
You're like, hey, why not aim for the sky and
go be a Cardiac's fucking surgeon. No, like I don't
want to add an additional five years of school.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Yeah, really, I would love to do hard transplants. I
just don't think I'm the one that should be doing
think I think.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
I think in order to get your pilot license, you
probably need just as much flight I as logged in
as a as a flight attendant.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
No, And it's also way more schooling and way more pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
It's way more pressure to flat this thing than the
crack open a ginger raid the marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Don't do that because I know a lot of flight attendants,
and that school is about safety. They're not teaching you
how to fucking give peanuts. They're part of the flight crew. No.
Of course, we know being a pilot is tougher than
being flight attendant. A podcast or anything along those lines. Yeah,
but let's not act like they're not safety experts of

(01:39:59):
the plane. That's really why they're there. Just when there's
not an emergency, which thank god they don't happen that often,
they give us strikes. Yeah, but their role is really
to be the flight crew to help in an emergency.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
And there's been a lot of emergencies lately. So let's
not act like they're not earning their keys. Yeah, they're
on the front lines right now.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
I mean it's not been a lot if we think
about how many flights take off and land every but
you never know. Yeah, no, listen, I'm prayers to anybody
that we've lost. We've seen a lot of tragedy this
year with flights.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
So yes, in shout out to all of our flight
attendant listeners, I am not disrespecting your job at all.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
I'm not respecting your job or I'm just sending the
numbers lean towards was it twenty mail, Yes, and.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
I think we should bump those numbers up. I believe
in equality, gender quality. I think that should be something
we should look into.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Before we go any further. I want to send the
rest in peace of Dwayne Wiggins, one of the founding
members of the legendary Tony Tony Tony lost him over
the weekend. He lost his battle with cancer. So we
want to send a prayer to the entire family. You know,
you talk about just legendary bands and music and groups,

(01:41:06):
Tony Tony Tony is right there at the top of
a lot of those lists. So preis condolences to Dwayne
Wiggins and his entire family. And we also forgot last
week to send a prayers and condolences to the family
of the legendary Roy Airs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
I mean, I can't count how many times his music
has been sampled some you know, most legendary music that
we've had and continue to listen to and continue to
sample and continue to hear over and over. So prais
condolences to the family of the legendary musician mister roy Airs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Yeah, for sure. And I felt terrible that we forgot
about that. Yeah, I mean we said it on Patreon
right after, but still you need to say it on
the regular episode as well. I guess before we get
to possible voicemails, do we want to discuss this juicy
thing or just wait to see if more comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
It's not much.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
I mean I don't personally from what I've seen that
it feels a little off. But I mean Odell and
Drewski came out right away and was like, oh, this
is stupid, this is not real.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Yeah, I know it's not to me. You know, a
lot of that stuff we're gonna hear about that case
and around it is not even talking about. It's a
lot of bullshit. I mean, and some of it is true,
but I think this situation is just something that you know,
it's just somebody threw these guys, these individuals names out there,
and because it is a court case and it's it
is documented that you know, their names came out. But

(01:42:35):
I don't think that there's much much validity to any
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
How was how is a lawyer still like allowed to
practice after that? Because Drewski made a very logical point
in regards to everything. I was not even famous at this,
I was broke in my mom's script. How on earth
could I be at Ditty's house doing this? Yeah, I
did not know Diddy? This is insane. How how does
that even get into it? But that was how does
that one go? Hey, this there's no fun way they

(01:43:00):
should even be printed.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
But this is going back to the Jay Z situation
and the lawyer Tony Buzby. This is what Jay was saying, like,
there should be some penalty for lawyers that just, yeah,
do things like this and put people's names out there
without if.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
You want to risk it, yeah, you have to have
some risk.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
You have to you have to stand behind the risk
of just throwing my name into into some bullshit. So
I think this is one of those another one of
those situations, and I don't think there's much to it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
Yeah, do we have voicemails.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
We have one, our first one in a while. It's
a really simple voicemail. If you guys want to listen
to it, just a guy asking for advice.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
Okay, okay, yeah, got mail.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
Hey, what's up, pod family. It's Malcolm from South Africa.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
Again shout out to the podcast as always still listening,
still supporting. Uh So I come to that not to
discuss politics and economics like in the loss of voicemail license.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
I don't know if you remember that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
I come today because I need some advice on a woman.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
So I'm in the Miami area and there's a girl
I started speaking to. And when I say this is
generational talent, I mean this is Steph Curry fused with
Lebron James. She is absolutely breathtaking. And we've been speaking
for the past, you know, a few months, not exclusively,
and I prefer that we're still doing you know.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
We're still speaking to other people, doing our own things,
but we go on dates and the sorts. Now, I'm
a gift giver That's one of my love languages.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Like I love giving people Like if I see meet
a woman and I see a genuine future, I love
like gifts that make her life easier, like a spa
da go to your nails.

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
Sheres uber eats money, here's groceries, that type thing.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
But obviously I'm in the Miami area and she has
attracted like a lot of athletes, the interest of a
lot of athletes, a lot of celebrities, et cetera, et cetera.
So the question I have to you is how do
I ensure that the sentiment behind the gifts that I
give doesn't get lost on her, like that she doesn't
just view this as another nigga that's love dumping or
just wasting splurgeing cash on her. Everyone's perspective would be appreciated.

(01:45:00):
Baby D as the the the the spokesperson of a woman.
I'd love to hear your point of view. As always
loved the podcast New Oian.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
More Fever Shut Up. I heard they do a lot
of love dumping in Dubai.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
That's what that's where it originated.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
First, we're going to get into that too, because I
saw an article on that. But let's answer this gentleman.
I'm sorry, I was laughing when he said the N word.
Peage looked at me like Peach didn't believe he should
be saying that. But it sounds like he's African. I
like he's South African.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
So maybe definitely, I.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Mean, you can be a white South African. But I
don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
All right, before we get to the question, his name
is Malcolm mac Miller's name was Malcolm?

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Is that mac Mill's real name? No, it is, yes, Malcolm. Yes,
that's fucking Hillo.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
There's white malcolms. There's not a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
Yeah, but Malcolm in the middle was white, wasn't he?

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Wasn't he his crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
What did you think he was?

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
Yeah made Yeah, not many white man, But there's a
couple out there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
When you've ran into a woman that is gorgeous and
you're trying to find a way to describe her beauty.
All your friends.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
Always compare these sports. Always she's Kobe and Shaq And.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Then could you imagine Iverson's handle with Tim Duncan's height.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Yeah, that's usually the ability with Jok's passing ability.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
I don't think he was describing her looks just who
she was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
She's the goat, she's the greatest.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
He said, generational talent. I'm sure he was referring to
something else.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
What do you think, I mean, it probably was some
of that in there too, But he says she's absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
But to me, that's even nastier if what Demaris is
insinuating here is that also described based off two crown
men in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
Generational talent.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
Yeah, she said, well listen, I've met some generational talent
in my life, saying I can understand what this gentleman
is saying. So his question was, how does his his
gifts his you know, I guess love language. How does
it not get lost upon I guess what other guys
are trying to do for her trying to Yeah, he.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Wants he wants to know what type of gifts to
give so that his gifts stick out and it's not
something she's just like another one. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Well, I mean we can't we can't really answer that.
The only answer would be to pay attention to details
and specific things. Yeah, what type of more things that
she would like and appreciate. I mean there's plenty of women.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
Well, we just did an episode two weeks ago where
a woman didn't appreciate the small gesture of what was it?
How much money did that gentleman? Thirty dollars? Yeah, so
it's not the small she got a teach her a
line out of it. Yeah, but you gotta, you gotta,
you gotta just know your woman, know who you're dealing with,
know what she likes, know the type of woman she is.
I can't, we can't really speak to it because we
don't know this woman. And you're saying that she's getting

(01:47:45):
the eyes and attention from you know, athletes and you know,
rich rich men.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
So I think it's actually an interesting question because there
are we've all dealt with that situations with women that
deal with men that have money far greater lengths in them,
generational wealth, if you will, based off those contracts. The
way to stand out is really your personality and the
smaller things that you do. This whole generation is completely

(01:48:13):
fucked because every girl's been to Tao, no matter who
the fuck they are. Every girl's been flown to Turks
on a girl's trip. But like that shit is so
regular now that the things that would stand out, those
huge gestures most regular women have had before based off Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
It's okay, let's easy's not say that. Please.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
First, well, I don't think there's anything wrong with.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
That at all. No, let's but let's not say that
because our regular listeners who listen to this podcast look
at y'all like y'all are fucking insane when y'all say
that most regular women have.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
I know so many regular women with followers at one
thousand at most that have been flown out by very
rich men just because they're pretty. Chose guys that scour
the internet.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
But that's not the base. Those women are also extraordinarily beautiful,
that's not the those are not regular.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
All right, let the flight attend land his fucking point.
He's dealing with those type of women clearly because they're
interacting with famous people and athletes that have that's for resources.
All those women have probably been flown out. All those
big things that you think would be the greatest shit
to do for women is regular to them.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
So the very small gestures that I think used to
get clowns are the stuff that stands out m hm.
So I would just focus on that instead of trying
to compete with somebody that has one hundred million dollar
contract and could take her to fucking fashion Week tomorrow.
She feels like it, Yeah, go make her laugh and
pay attention to what she actually likes in real life.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Yeah, I think that's that's the key. You gotta. You
gotta tap into something outside of just you know, love
bombing as he said, gifts and things like that. Like
she has to like your personality obviously she does just
somebody that you're dealing with, so she likes something about you,
I think. Just yeah, continue to be yourself, man. You
can't worry about all that other shit and kind of

(01:50:00):
factor that into how you move in your relationship with her,
Like you know, it is what it is like. Either
she's gonna be with you and you know, you have
her undivided attention and y'all are gonna enjoy each other.
Or she's gonna get bored with you and you know,
maybe her likes and her needs you know, turn into
something else and you can't really provide that for her anymore,
and she's gonna end up, you know, somewhere else. But

(01:50:20):
that happens even if she isn't catching the odds and
attention of you know, rich guys, Like if you're a woman,
isn't that type of woman? And she's bored with you
and you're not, you know, like feeding her wanting needs
the way she wants to, She's gonna find somebody else
to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
So and I mean, for example too, outside of like gifts,
even though I know that's his love language, if she's
used to like fancy restaurants or whatever, and you know,
a really cool local spot that has way better food
and it's more low key, like nice little food truck, like,
if she doesn't appreciate that type of stuff, then maybe
she's not the one for you. And I don't think
there's anything wrong with women that just want five star
Michelin shit like that's fine, not knocking you, but that

(01:51:00):
it's not a girl that i'd probably want to hang
out with. We could do that sometimes, but if we're
not going to a concert of a half unknown artist
with only two hundre people in the crowd and then
getting a taco truck, I know, and you can't have
fun in that, then you not really for me. But
that can make you stand out because you're not doing
the typical South Beach restaurant like you're showing her your
world and once you're into that stands out the cool shit.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
Yeah, not just things that are cool on social media,
like the real cool shit. If you know, you know this,
this place is known for this specific thing. Like you
like pizza, I know, crazy pizza spot, best pizza in
the city. You know you like pasta, you like you know,
little things like that. Just feed her intellect, feed her,
you know, teach us some new things, show us some

(01:51:44):
different things that she may not know about. I think
that's how you kind of tap into a woman and
kind of stand out amongst you know, the other guys
that may be trying to pull at her attention.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
When it comes to gifts. Since when it comes to
gifts and women, if you're going to regular since you
said gift giving is your love language, we love a
gift giver, make sure that you can maintain whatever level
of gifts you are doing. So if you can afford,
if you regularly want to give gifts, because that's how
you show love the most, make sure you can maintain

(01:52:17):
the level of gifts you're buying. So if you can't
maintain turks trips once every three four months, then don't
even set that standard, because then that's what she's that's
going to become what she's come to expect and what
she's gonna attach to you. And then once you can't
do it anymore, it looks like you were fronting and
that's more unattractive than anything. So make sure you can
maintain whatever energy you start with, and most importantly what.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
You just said, Because what if he can't afford to
go to Turks, what if he can afford to go
to Disney World.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
No, but that's what DeMars said.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
I'm maybe you can finally afford that Turk trip. That
can't be something that's just in your wheelhouse at all times,
like the gifts you give. That's not fair to say
I can aford it right now. Welcome to being a
man like yo.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
Like Yo, we never care. I could book a nice
we can go to the Kymaniles, we can go to Turks,
we get, But right now in my life, y'all, I can't,
Like we can't. We can spend a nice little week
and show aw it though just because I introduce it
to you doesn't mean that I have to sustain it.
It's like, Yo, Well then I could afford it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
I can't if you can't do it, because I'm just talking.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
But that don't mean he should never do it because
he can't sustain it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
I'm saying a consistent thing. If throughout the year he's
like Yo, takes her to Turks like three times in
a row, she's gonna expect that as this relationship continues.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Who the fuck is going to Turks through Tom?

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
I don't know who would have the time to do that,
But I understand the hypothetical of what it is. So
is did I get it corrected?

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:53:42):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
My point is not never that you shouldn't do anything
for her that you can only do once. That's not
what I'm saying. What I'm saying is when because he
said his love language is gift giving, That's the only
reason why when it comes to gifts, whether it's diamonds,
whether it's a fucking bag of double stuff, oreoles. Make
sure you can maintain that gift giving throughout relationship and
that you're not love bombing me with gifts and then

(01:54:03):
just to get my attention and to try to separate yourself,
and then you can't continue that energy because that's now
what I've attached to you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Let's let's even make it less of a money thing
and more of an attention pattern thing. If you give
if you send roses to her job every Thursday with
a card of saying thinking about you, and then you
have to continue to do that, Like six months in,
you can't stop the roses on Thursday. You started this pattern.
This is what's expecting. And when you stop doing that,
she's gonna question if you even like her.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
And on top of that, most importantly, like I was saying,
most importantly, if that girl likes you, it don't matter
who else is buying anything else for her. Granted, she's
gonna have a bunch of standards that these are standards
that she wants met, and those are different for every girl, right,
Like those are all different for every girl. But if
she likes you, you don't worry about standing out. Continue

(01:54:54):
to be you and you will stand out. And if
you don't, then you were not the person for her.
And another thing on top of that, your love language
doesn't matter when it comes to trying to win somebody over.
Your love language does not matter. Her love language matters.
So how you show love. And we've had this conversation before.

(01:55:16):
If you're a gift giver, and gifts don't mean shit
to her, then your love language means nothing to her
because she's not feeling loved because that's not how she
received love. If she's a words of affirmation person and
you need to tell her you love her, but you're
not doing that, you're just buying her a bunch of gifts,
she won't feel loved because that's not what she recognizes
as love. So that's something that you need to have
as a conversation with her to make sure that her

(01:55:38):
love language is receiving gifts. Just because she's a bad
bitch and there's a bunch of people buying things for
her doesn't mean that that's her love language. That just
might be what she's used to. You need to get
to know her and get to know her love language.
But apparently y'all y'all have time for that because you
said that neither one of y'all are exclusively dating each
other right now anyway, So y'all are still.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
He got hosts. Yeah, he'd give everyone a gift. He
dumping on everyone, And if it doesn't work out, just
always remember still be though.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
No, just remember that it wasn't meant to be and
that's your person that's coming for you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
It's not the same thing and still be there. Yeah,
I think that's the same, that's the exactly exact same. Yeah,
that's saying the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Yeah, it's still hit like it's another one coming. It
was another chick coming ten minutes. Don't worry about it, nah,
I guess for her. Yeah, all right, Well this has
been another cool episode. It's a good seeing y'all after
a weekend away from y'all. We saw each other every
day last week, Rory. Yeah, it was good not to
see your face a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Yeah, and tomorrow we won't see each other.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
I can't wait. I feel like I'm just so many
activities I can do when I don't see your face.
Facts get so much done, Rory.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
I'm the one stopping it in your face.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Face is something with It's here. Let's go to hooka spots, Marow.
I don't want to see you. I don't want to
see you, don't want to talk to you. Leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
I get so mad, don't want to scale with me anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
No, Rory, you don't understand. When I'm home and I
see your name pop up my phone, I get so frustrate.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
What does he want? Laugh?

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
And you call me like, yeah, so did you see
this tweet? No, man, leave me the fuck alone. I
don't want to see no tweets. I'm not gonna leave
me alone with your got into some fucking activities. Man,
I was I multitask, okay, yeah, just stop hitting my
phone on off this I man DN D wow.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Put that shit right on D and D. Nobody could
get through.

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
Oh BABYD while we're here. I do want apologize last
week because you were upset at me because I laughed
at a post, and I didn't want you to think
that I was laughing at you. I was laughing at
the post because we had just laughed about the post.
So it's I don't want you to think that it's
not love is always loved for me to you, I
love you and I support you. I just thought that

(01:57:47):
the post was funny because we said that it was
gonna end up being a post. Rory said it was
gonna end up being a post. So I don't want
to apologize publicly.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
Do you feel like you did something wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
No, I didn't feel like I told him.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
Then why are you apologizing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Because you felt like I did something wrong. I told
you that, well, your energy felt your energy spoke to me.
I mean, my energy spoke to.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
You language I read nythy well, I read energy.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
So you know, they brought it to my attention. Me
and Rory spoke about it, and I was like, but
I didn't do anything wrong, like I have that thing
in me, I know when I'm doing so I think
any healthy mental person knows when they're doing something wrong.
At no point did I think what I did was wrong.
So when me and Rory spoke about it, I was like, yo,
but what did I laughed? I got laughed at. Nobody

(01:58:33):
got laughed at in twenty twenty four more than me, nobody.
I was laughed at more than anybody on the planet Earth.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
Last.

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
I ain't laugh at you what I laughed. Hold on, wait,
I laughed at you to your face. I laughed at
you to your face.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
I laugh at you to your face because we weren't
together when that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
But you had already laughed pool. You had already laughed
at me to my face about it. We already had
that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
And then when it made a post, when they post
was made, which Rory said it probably was gonna end
up being a post. I was laughing at that, like,
so it was just all I thought, we were all
laughing together.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
I have a question, Okay, if when niggas was saying
disrespectful shit about you and making fun of you on
the internet, if I laughed, if I had hashtag dj had,
if I had retweeted that and laughed, would I have
a job?

Speaker 1 (01:59:16):
Yeah? Okay, this has been another a laugh at you
on the internet before.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
No, I have not not when it comes to not
when it came to all that ship people calling you
a dick rider and all that ship, but nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
But that's where I think we was. We was on
a different page because I didn't think that that post
was disrespectful. Nobody said nothing disrespectful about you. It was
just kind of like laughing at the you know, the
wish wash. She switched side and it was like that energy.
But it wasn't like, Oh, this fucking girl's a fucking
get her out of here, she's a fucking clip rider.

Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
Even after the second post, you still didn't feel that way.
What was the second post I got posted again? Did
you another Yes? I did another out of context clip
Oh yeah, I laughed at that. But I didn't laugh
on the post because that wasn't that. It was like, oh,
it's another post, but that the first post I laughed
at because we had just spoke about that being a post.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
But it wasn't like I wasn't laughing at you. I
was laughing at the post. You get what I'm saying.
So that's why I didn't feel like I didn't the wrong.
But because you felt like I did something wrong, I
have to apologize and let you know that it wasn't
a personal laughing at Demaris thing. It was just laughing
at that becoming a post. That's all that was got it?

Speaker 3 (02:00:25):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Do you accept my apology?

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (02:00:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
No, no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
We ain't doing sure, we ain't doing Sure? Do you Demarus?
She gave you an answer, except like I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:00:39):
I don't, I don't. I don't know what you I
don't know what you want for me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
I'm asking you, do you accept my apology?

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
I don't know why you're I don't, I don't know.
We have been in this office how many times since
that happened, and how many hours? Know how many hours.
That was only one time that we were off camera
that you could have did this apology. That's number one.
Number two, you're not sorry. You're not You're not sorry
because you don't think.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
That you say I apologize, it's a difference. I'm never saying.

Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
So then what's the definition of I apologize? What are
you apologetic for?

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
I'm apologizing if you took what I did as something
that was like, you know, laughing at you, now that
it was weird, Like laughing isn't weird. Just laughed at
a post like that's not I laugh at everything, laughing
shit about me like a laugh. But it wasn't. But
because you took it personally and you took it like
I was laughing at you, I have to clear it
up and let you know, like, no, that's and I

(02:01:33):
wasn't laughing at you. I was laughing at that actually
becoming a post after we spoke about it becoming a post.
That's all it was. And we only saw each other
once after that happened.

Speaker 3 (02:01:44):
You saw I saw you Wednesday, and I saw you Thursday,
and today is Monday, so I saw you twice. This
is the third time. You also, I have my phone number.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
Yeah, but I gotta apologize publicly.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
I can't, you know, so then apologies not for me,
It's no, it's for you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
But I'm apologizing because it was something that was public.
It was a public post that you felt the way about,
so I have to apologize publicly to you. You see
what I'm saying. I could have called you behind the scenes,
like yo, my bad, but that don't really It's like, no, nigga,
You're still laughing on the post though, So I could
have done that, but then I would have had to
public apologize publicly as well. So I'm just apologizing publicly

(02:02:22):
because I don't want you to feel like I was
laughing at you. I'm never laughing at you, And if
it was something disrespecting you, I would have never laughed
at it. But I didn't think that that was disrespecting me.
I thought it was just a funny post, so I laughed. Okay,
I love. This has been another beautiful episode. Why are
you looking like that, looking like a nigga in HR
that's trying to sit there and watch two nothing's on

(02:02:44):
your all day on your laptop. Close your laptop.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
You didn't pull up shit, close that fucking laptop.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
Said another beautiful empisode. We'll talk to you in a
couple of days. Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga.
He's just ginger and I just laught.

Speaker 3 (02:03:05):
No Willian now

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