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December 2, 2025 • 101 mins

We’re still a bit hungover after our Thanksgiving, but we’re back. Jussie Smollett on Cam Newton’s pod got Rory thinking we’re living in a simulation. Mal thinks Max B should know better than to perform a song he supposedly didn’t want to perform. Rory and Mal debate whether T-Pain had a point about brotherhood in the music industry. Plus, Rory and Mal list their Top 5 Philly rappers, does Rory really think Detroit can hang with NYC, we put each other onto new tv/music, 50 Cent on Good Morning America promoting the new Diddy doc is peak 50, and a voicemail has us taking trips down memory lane with our parents.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
No yet, Welcome to December.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
It is the first first of the month. Yeah, thank
god for snap benefits.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Listen man, Jamar sweet the clock. Welcome, Welcome to December.
I cannot believe it's the last month of twenty twenty five.
Like that whole saying of like when you get older
years go packer and yeah, like I'll be thirty six
next year.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That like kind of fucks me up. Ye Ah, you're scared. Yeah,
why not? What I'm scared? It's the wrong word. But
you're not looking forward to it. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I was fine with thirty five.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You didn't you didn't.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
You didn't do it November dump or say December be
nice to me.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
No, I did not, But I will do New Year
and new me for sure. I'm definitely doing December. Be
kind to me, Like you only knew the twenty twenty
five me. You haven't met the twenty twenty six Yeah
have you? No, But I'm already internalizing what that person
is going to be. Got you new year and new meat.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Come on.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I don't know, Like thirty five was was a lot,
but thirty six, like now I'm on the other side.
Now I'm like leaning into my ladder thirties. That's it's
not a scary thing. I think the point of life
is to age, and I'm happy to age. But I
don't know, man, it's a it's a weird thing getting older. Yeah,

(01:24):
having random bruises? Is that a thing with age? Like?
I have just random bruises now, I'm like, where did
this bruise come from?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Demons in your sleep? You said what maybe did? And
demons in your sleep?

Speaker 4 (01:37):
I just woke up with a random bruise. I'm like,
how the fuck did I get a bruise on my knee?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
You probably bumped your knee around the house and.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Just didn't even realize. Just the thirty five year old adrenaline.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
H he was giving a ghost head one of the others.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
So I don't know, Oh, that's what you think I
was doing just on one.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Right now, I don't. I don't have bruises on my knees.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I never get bruises on First of all, giving head
on one knee is fucking you on one need his.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Favorite one side, Like he was leaning more towards one side.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
That was the angle. He was like getting into it.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
There's a national anthem joke that I'm not gonna make
Oh my god, how is everyone's genocidal holiday?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was great, man, had some time to relax and
did did you did you go out of town?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I stayed here. I stayed in New York, gotch family
in New York. Nice.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, it was cool though, still chill holiday. It's just
we gotta make it a thing. Though, now that we're
getting like you say, thirty six, I'm in my forties,
like we got to be the ones that like host Thanksgiving. Now,
I know, like it's at that point where it's like,
all right, we got it. It's just it's up to us.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
If we don't do it, it's like it's probably not
gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, with a with a Mara I did. I
did two Thanksgivings. We house hopped on thanks like actually
on Thanksgiving, what's my Godfather's into my cousin's.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
House, which was great.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
But then Friday we did my family and Kia's family
where Key and I cooked and like hosted, and.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I was exhausted.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Like now I understand, like we pulled it audible and
had to end up doing that.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I feel you demeres.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, last episode, I was like, yeah, this is the
greatest holiday, no man, outside of the obvious.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I was so tired after cooking all that ship, but
I didn't even want to eat. Is it? What did
you cook? Everything? Really? Literally everything? That was a terrible Thanksgiving?
Did you? Yo? Maybe? What did you cook? I ain't
see it? Ain't. I wasn't on social media. I was
so tired.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
I didn't even I think for you to give us
the only thing I posted. My homegirl posted my plate
and was like, yo, another year in the books, and
I like reposted her plate.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I didn't even get a chance to take any pictures.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I was looking forward to the paprika over the salad and.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I put that on my turkey.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, terrible Thanksgiving for Rory.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
It was a mix of earth and had the little
path in there too, Okay, little pat poots on the turn?

Speaker 5 (04:00):
How did you do your turkey? Because I'm gonna tell
you if it was nasty? And how did you do
your turkey in the oven?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
No ship, there's a start, there's a start, there's a start.
Fifty there's a start. He got there fifty Yeah for
a while, shaking.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Dry as some motherfucker. Ain't it not? Bird? That bird?
Was in the ash you.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
No, I I had the paintbrush with the butter like
I did, but he put a little butter in oil.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, all right, might know what you're doing a little bit.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I'm not saying it was like the greatest Thanksgiving, but
it wasn't bad. How much turkey was left a good
amount that I forgot to bring the soup because I
made the soup yesterday and I wanted to prove to
you guys page I got you on Wednesday, I will
bring the soup.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
In turkey noodle soup. Yeah, apparently that's the thing. He
was in my DMS. No, that's the thing turkey noodle was.
That work had no idea.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I mean, do you guys not like chicken noodle soup.
It's like that but better. It's okay, yeah, well not
a big fan, but sorry.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I found out Fat Joe almost killed my cousin over Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
That was fun.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Okay, Fat Joe almost killed your cousin that you almos
h him?

Speaker 4 (05:01):
So my cousins were leaving the garden after Saint John's
had played. Okay, and you know, Fat Joe was like
the mayor of the garden. He's gonna be no matter
who's playing the Red Storm Necks whatever. Yeah, So I
guess Fat Joe was in a car that you know,
when someone's trying to lay low, like you would expect
Fat Joe because we know Fat Joe.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Has a lot of money. He would be in the
best of cars.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
But some celebrities just like to lay low, and I'm
gonna be in something a little different. I'm gonna say
what the car was. But he pulled up when they
were leaving the garden and my cousin, without hesitation, said
car in the shop.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Joe, Oh, yeah, you should have got it like this,
and then just started laughing.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
But he was like, nah, he thought about it like
he wasn't joking. He was gonna kill my cousin.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
He's probably yeah, yeah, Jill cho he's probably getting a
ride to the car and know how that goes sometimes.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Nah, some people, just celebrities. It wasn't a bad car,
but it was you know, you gotta lay low in
the city. If he pulls up a Phantom and everyone's like, yeah,
what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean New York.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's New York's it's nice cars everywhere. You ain't got
to lay low in New York.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, but I mean it was it was a chill
holiday for the most part.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah. My pops only said like a few inappropriate things.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
All right. O.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Man, he was supposed to go all the way in. Man,
this is the year he got to give it all.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
He got to give it was one that was crazy
that I cannot say this. Come on, no.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Come victim, the malls, come on, no, come on man,
they already canceled juice.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
All right, man, Yeah, but this if this community cancels
us and there's no more money.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh man, we are back spots about boost Mobile, unlimited talk,
text data, and turkey noodle soup.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
You missed our our outing on Thursday. You didn't come
to the show without the Leon Thomas show.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
First of all, he was going home. Did Rory stand
up for me? Now, now's your chance? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:59):
I got tickets and then I kind of talked.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Her into it. He was supposed to be taking me home.
He was driving me home.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
The entire drive to my house from Manhattan to Brooklyn.
He was like, come on, just just come. I was like,
I want to go home, Like I want to go home.
I had ordered food. We went and picked up my food.
I didn't get a chance to eat my ramen.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
So how was it? Leon?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
First of all, don't let her gash you. I dropped
her home. I dropped her home, and then she came
to the show.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
Rory called me three times before I walked in my door, like, yo,
I got the tickets, I got.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Wait, wait, hold of yo. Let her gas. She dropped
you at the crib.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yes, I drove her home because I.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Was three das.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
I told him I would go with him. But by
the time he pulled up to my house and he
had been begging for fucking forty five minutes, I was like, fine,
fuck it will go. Because the person I was in
my house was like, I'm down to go, So I
was like, fuck, it will go. So we went. We
went for like an hour, hour and a half. Listen, man,
you can talk about it.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
I've been a third wheel before, but god damn, I
hate New Love so much.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's just he was bowed up at the Leon Thomas Shall.
Where else would you be bowed up at?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Niggas is fighting at Leon Thomas Shall, Yeah, just getting it,
niggas is.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I'm running into the oppos the R and B. I
was fighting Love the whole time. I was like, get
this beautiful PDA away from me. I hate you got
thort each other's eyes. We were bad like that. Yes,
I'm sorry, you not sorry, So don't even say.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Sorry to talk about how Rory Yo, Rory go on
places with Rory. You never notice certain things until you
have someone with you, because then you're just like more
aware because I'm so used to the way that Rory is.
Like when Rory walks in spaces, like he's just gonna
walk past the bouncer. He walked into the bar. He
walked behind them people fucking bar.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
They said, sir, can you get that was an accident,
by the way, I know, but he was like, I
was that an accident? I thought it was the door
to go to the back, and it was literally the back.
You thought it was like Leo's manager, like, yo, come
side stage. I thought it was side stage. It was
the bar. Oh okay, And then I just kept walking
because like, once you commit and make a mistake, you
just got to live in your truth, like you can't

(08:59):
do the oh yeah, my bad, like you just got
to live there. Going over Henry Hill, Goodfellas, I'm doing
the whole walk.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And pushing on doors. You got to push doors that slocked. No,
I pretend to be a bar back. I was like,
I'm just getting.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Nice because I felt so embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I just had to live in that moment.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I've been seeing some clips from the Leons show online.
He's playing the drums, guitar. It was this niggas all
over the state.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
It was.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
It was incredible. He was extreme.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
He's extremely talented. Extreme if you're not a Leon Thomas fan.
Because the person I was with was not a Leon
Thomas fan. He was like, this is one of the
few concerts that will make me check out. Someone's like,
he's extremely talented. Okay, so shout out to Leon. He
did an amazing job. But it was it was a
cool night. Rory had us taking shots from the bootleggers
that were outside of l I U Brooklyn Paramount.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
What yeah, I mean he was drinking nutcrackers. No, it
wasn't the nutcracker.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
They had shots shots, yes, on the street.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yes, you drink shots on the street from random people.
It was Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh yeah, he's he's going to be We're gonna find
him dead.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
They gave that ship to me. They were like cheers, like, yeah,
I'm not drinking that ship. Who was these people, you know,
Brooklyn Knights, Brooklyn Knights.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
I think they said they were fans of the show though, right,
yeah they were. Okay, well, shout out to you. They
were saying they.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Were selling liquor outside, like nutcrackers and everything, and they
were fans of the show, so they just gave us shots.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh okay, I don't think they were trying to drink.
They weren't trying to kill us.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
They were just not shot. They were actually selling jello shots.
They were selling a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean, selling yellow shots on the street is just crazy.
After tom show.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
That's not right when it's cold out, I agree. So
that's regular summertime ship. Okay, so if you go to
Riverbank Park, there's gonna be nothing but jello shots being
sold on that bridge.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, definitely not drinking that from none of those gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I mean, hell, no, hell, when you used to drink,
you never had a nutcracker uptown of course where it
wasn't sealed.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was sealed. But I have one bad night and
I never drink a nutcrackers. Nut crackers, I'm what was
one bad What was the night? Oh my god? What happened.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
I woke up, I drove home. Don't remember driving home.
I didn't remember parking.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Woke up.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
My young boy in the block called me like twelve times.
He thought I was coming back downstairs. I left the
car running, went upstairs and went to sleep. He had
to park it in a lot. Yeah, it was bad.
It was bad. Ye had never again, never again, I
had to. It was just I had like maybe three nutcrackers.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
It was crazy. Yeah, three nutcrackers.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, three is crazy crazy, I would put But
we was outside from like nine pm to like two
three in the morning.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, so that's easy.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
It's easy to go through three nutcrackers in five hours.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's that's easy.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
And New York probably didn't even feel. Ship took a
sip of the third one and everything at you.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
That was it explain to the non New Yorkers who
listened to us what a nutcracker is.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
So don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Cracker is death juice, not away from it. It's everything
that is in your cabin that is almost running on empty.
And he just poured all in one bottle and add
fruit pumping, and you got it. And you don't want
that Ship may lead that shit alone.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Do not drink that.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
But yeah, the marriage left us halfway through the show.
I went to the after party by myself.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Like you went to the after party, you know, he
was outside.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Not that, not the actual after party that was in
the city. They had an after party in the venue
of Stairs, which was fun and you know, kicked it
with people I knew.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
But what Brooklyn paramunt right, Yeah, how's that? How's that venue?
That's great, It's really really good.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
It actually kind of reminds me like of an downtown
l A type venue in New York.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
So, baby, do you did go to the party? I
mean to the show?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Even I did, but I had to. I had to
get up in the morning to go to Syracuse that morning.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
So then you went home and cooked. No, I went
home and.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Went to sleep. I went directly asleep. I was so
fucking tired. I was tired of the show.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
No.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
No, he was like, we should go home. I'm like,
we should because I'm about to fall asleep.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
In the event that you start dating somebody in the summer,
don't spend Thanksgiving together. I feel like you're kind of
required if you stay together for the next Thanksgiving to
spend together.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's a year has changed meet if you meet Christs
around Christmas and so next year Thanksgiving, y'all.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I mean most a year,
you're not gonna meet the family in the year.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
I think she's required to spend Christmas with Yeah with you,
you mean yours with actually want to? I don't have
anything going on, okay, Like I don't know what you
where you was going with that. I'm not flustered.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
I'm just not talking about it, like I'm not flustered
about a goddamn thing.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
But no, I think I think it's different.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
What I've realized was seeing other people because I have
a single mom, and then seeing other people with single moms.
Shit gets a little bit different because you don't want
to leave, especially men don't want to leave their mothers
on holidays or things like that. That's happened a lot
with people that out dated, Like, so you kind of
have to decide.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Nobody introduced it.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Nobody introduced their significant other to their family quicker than lesbians.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Oh no, for sure. Yeah, yeah, I love you.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I feel like the mother comes on the first date.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, lesbians, lesbian you meet, you meet, you meet her
girlfriend like she just met her three days ago, she's
already at the table.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, they don't give a fuck. Their first date comes
to the.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, lesbians gold they moved quick boy like damn, Like,
oh hey cool.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
I respect it though a lot of the lesbians I
know are in very long term relationships like that. Their
strategy works of all right, I like this first date.
Now we're together for life?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Baby?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
How can we never see studs complain about cramps?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I saw?

Speaker 5 (14:31):
I mean, why you always got questions about studs.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
No, I'm just I'm just asking because you every time
he asked a question, it's profound because I've never heard
a study.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
But I was like, that is like I've never seen
the homie stud like complaining like damn, my stomach curR
and blay it was fum you I got cramps?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Never seen it? Because why would never hear young may
rap about it nothing.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
You're like, we don't see studs like at work, like
oh ship, mama, cramp and like we've just never seen
it in school, never seen it. Like is it like
a thing where they just can that that pain tolerance.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
I'm not no, they don't have higher pain tolerance. But
I'm not a stud, so I don't know. Sometimes you
can put a beanie on it just you know, or fitted.
So it's not the pain tolerance baby d no, all right,
all right, fucking baby.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
So it's just it's the same theory of like I've
never met a hole that was on her period, like
she was always ready?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Is that in the same category.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
That's different though, that's actually that periods. Well, that's because
the majority of them are on some type of period
altering birth control.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, yeah, they put that sponge up yeah, like forty
days fort shit.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I found out about the sponge here, by the way,
I didn't. I knew.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
It took me thirty five years to find out there's
a sponge you could put up there and keep fucking.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
There's also like little rings you can put up there,
the little cup no not, they have the Diva cups,
but you can't really have sex with those. The it's
like a disc, the little flex disc you can put
up there.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
I found out the horn stars on their period. I'm like,
they couldn't just push production a week. We got to
get this out tonight. We got to get this. I
felt so ignorant. I had no idea at all, but
I did see on your your ig story to marriage
that you was out in the Q streets? Oh?

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, you So it's kind of fun. Blackout Wednesdays. Blackout Wednesdays.
It's if you're from a college that actually it's from anywhere,
But if you're from a college town, you know, because
everyone comes home like for Thanksgiving, Like we all when
you live in a small town, everybody goes out and
lives and lives their life right, but.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Back it's such a big occasion.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
You see people you haven't seen in fucking years or
whatever that have returned home for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So yeah, black out Wednesdays. Yeah, so it's like, what
do y'all do? You go out?

Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's the night before Thanksgiving is the biggest party in
night of the year. Okay, I don't think it's a
big thing in New York City, but in every other place.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
There used to be.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, when you're younger, that's definitely a good thing that
we say before Thanksgiving, three nut crackers, them just go crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, we went out.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
My boy, uh, my boy Fats had a party and
he gave me a section and a bottle and me
and al It was just me and my homegirl Alison
shout out to Alison and we went.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
To doctor Alison. Click to G and you click her.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
I G.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Every time you give her a compliment, every time I
post her. It's the same girl, literally the same assist.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's a consistent man, right there. I thought I was
being gallant.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
So me and my two best friends went out and
then we got into an argument out of Popeye.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I thought I was being gallant.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, oh my god, Rory got new teeth and marriage.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know what, how do you feel about it?

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Well, first of all, I love them and shout out
to a Glendale dentistreet shot Glendale Dentistry and Queen's my guy.
There was amazing doctor R, doctor R just R.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, he's that. He's that like just even doctor I
needs two letters. He does. He just needs to shut
the Jesus share, you know, the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, but I was kind of like, so I got
them the Wednesday before I got it on blackout Wednesday
is when I got uh, that wasn't that funny. I
just wanted to smile. He got clearics, listen man early

(18:28):
and a printer. I got them at best Boy. But no,
they came out great and the process was great. But
on Thanksgiving I was kind of tight because you got.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Him before, like the day you're supposed to eat, Like, yeah,
it was fine.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
When I got the attempts with the dentures, that was tough,
Like I could barely eat for like two days. But
these are these are fine. Like after the Novacame ship
wore off, I was good to go. But I went
to my godfather's house. That was the first stop on Thanksgiving.
Sixty five people at his house. My godmother is an
Italian woman from New Jersey that is one of twelve.

(19:11):
So yeah, it's a lot going on there. But I
love it because there's a bunch of kids in Mark
and I have a lot of fun. But the whole
time I'm talking, I'm like, nobody is gonna be like, yo, yo,
your teeth look good. No, no, regular day Lord, my
god sister. The only ones like, yo, you got new teeth?
Talk to sixty five people.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Nobody fucking noticed, nobody cares. Nobody cares. But no, they're good, man.
I'm happy. That's good. They look good.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, yeah, they definitely like look not like I didn't
get the XO.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Super white teeth.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah they look like they they don't look like they
don't look like tollest seats in your mouth. Yell, you
don't have a mouthful. Yeah, you don't have a mouthful
of coffee mugs. It's all good, all right. So I've
been away from social media the whole holiday break, So
y'all got to fill me in what the hell is
going on in the industry? Who hates? Who hates who?
Who's dropping who, who's thisssing who? Let's hear it?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
All right, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
I was. I was off the internet for the most
part of the entire holiday, but I did have to
stop what I was doing on Friday while I was cooking.
I put it AirPod in my ear while I was
making the terrible turkey, mashed potatoes, mac and cheese everything,
because Juicy and Cam Newton did an interview together. Juicy
Smooley Okay, sat down with Cam Newton. If we don't

(20:31):
live in a simulation, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
What the fuck is going I've been trying to tell you.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I don't know if I okay, because I don't. I
don't respect it, I don't appreciate it, I don't admire it.
But I am fascinated by Jesse still doubling down on
this entire thing.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, he's still He's still he has to.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, but like.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
The confidence in which he has in the lie that
we're all crazy, he is, like all right, the way
they studied Aaron Hernandez's brain after he unfortunately killed himself
of the causes of CTE and what that does I
need to know the like the level of narcissism that
has entered Esse's brain in how somebody gets there. He

(21:18):
might be like higher than Trump puting anyone when it
comes to the level of narcissism, Like it is absolutely
fucking insane. I used to laugh at it. Now it's
getting to a point where he may harm somebody.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Do we think that he can even admit that he
was lying at this point? Like do all of these
interviews go away if he says I was lying? Or
do people still want them on their platform because people
are going to click and watch it.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well, he said he said that he he wishes he
made it up so he could do that very thing
and we could all just move on. But you know,
he didn't even though there's like stuff on never mind,
you know, it's the yeah, I don't, I don't know,
don't have to watch any of this. It's two hours.
I've never seen two people, you know, I fuck with
Cam Newton. I think this platform is great. I've never
seen two people talk for two fucking hours and not

(22:03):
say one thing of substance at all.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
They said nothing for two hours at all.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
The only thing Cam was like said that made me
laugh was Leo, I forgot you was the Mighty Ducks.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, for two hours on Mighty Ducks.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Like.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't know if him and Cam are friends. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Of course, I understand that his publicist would want him
to go to the most softball shit, but I don't
think Cam Newton does like complete He's not Charlemagne, but
he's also not the most softball interview ever. This was
like kind of disgusting to watch, Like you didn't even
ask a single question.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Well, I feel like everything's been at Like, what are
the hard hitting questions during I ask?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
You can we ask? Okay, That's what I'm saying, But no,
here's my thing.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
I agree with you if they didn't just put out
that documentary that was produced by Esse.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I believe Netflix the.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Amount of cell phone records that they followed those two guys,
they did a Fox News special, like, yeah, Justse, you
have not answered to anything that was in that dock,
Like there's a thousand questions you could ask.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Now after he did the gaie shit.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Like cool whatever, we could just laugh at it, but
a bunch of stuff came out again, and you're just
not gonna ask him. Yeah, while he's doubling down of
being the victim, even though he says he doesn't want
to be a victim, but he is the victim. And
we all, you know, projected our insecurities on gay men

(23:27):
because of this.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
We didn't look at the facts.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
We just saw him as a gay man and was like, yo,
fuck you.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
No, I think we did look at the facts, and
we knew it was bullshit when that meat.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Ball and we didn't even think about your sexuality.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, we didn't care about the sexuality Jesse. The meatball
sub made it home after you had a noose and
bleach pulled all over you.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
It just didn't make sense to nobody, Like I think
that was it.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
But I mean, you know, if Jesse's still on this
champagne campaign and you know, if people want to sit
down and talk to him, I guess I don't know
what we can get out of it unless he decides
to get to the point where he's like, you know what,
I was lying like all this was.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
His brain should be studied. Will Rory said, he's really
sending music. Is this true?

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Oh well, I was going to get to that. Even
though I think he's probably one of the most narcissistic
human beings that's ever existed on Earth and listening he
made a mistake. He had a drug problem, mental health issues.
I can give some grace there for you setting up
some bullshit like that to take advantage of a very
sensitive time. Even though that's insane, I could still give
you some grace. He was going through some ship, but

(24:26):
to triple down on it in the most arrogant, narcissistic
way ever, I think he should be in jail. But
with that said, his new single Breakout is incredible. Song
is fucking great.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
He got it because you know, just he's talented. Then
to make a man love a man?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Is that how it starts? That's an old song, that's
that's a pre pandemic song.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Is that what he said? He was a gay tupac?
After that? Oh no, that was his iron This was
Empire when he was on Empire that was his. This
was when Alicia Keys was his beard.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Oh man, yeah, I'm not listening to No Jesse records.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
I don't know man break breakout, which which he explained
like the time because I think the album's called breakout
as well with the single. But like he's just trying
to break out of all the barriers and boundaries that
we put him in. Sense he was, you know, jumped
by the two Magga gentlemen in Chicago and zero degree
weather at two of him.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
All was shout out to Cam Newton man for another
amazing that was carrying the nuts and bleach. Yeah, and
the meat ball sub made it home. I got you.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
I didn't see what he tried to say he was
he was copping coke too. He was like, see, I
wouldn't lie about I was. I was getting drugs too,
But why would I lie about that? Then it's like,
you really think we're all stupid?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
He does? I keep saying.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Narciss podcast was just like you really think we're all stupid,
Like you're looking at us like we're dumb.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I can't watch No Esse interview. I'm done. I'm to
move past that.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
They killed me when I said he was lying years ago,
and then it came out that he was lying, and
nobody told me.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Sorry, So fuck y'all. Well sorry, I'm sartistic. Make it
about you. It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I did see the Max b Uh performance Max B
popped out at Stove God show ye in Manhattan, and
I did see all the debacle online about you know,
him doing the record performing the record where he this
is Jim, I was going to call you to go
to that. By the way, I'm so glad you didn't.

(26:39):
You think I would go to a Stove God Max
B show.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
What was the Stove God show? I think he would
go to Stove Got show.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah, he was just not gonna go because Max B
popped out. Yeah, is there smoke with Max Bnah?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I love Max. The's too many niggas in the building.
I don't want to be with us. Too many men
in the building. Well, a Stove God show, there's gonna
be a lot of build Yeah, that's why he should
have had, like if he would have like a female
guest pop out like Stove and Max. I'm cool, I'm
maxed out. Too many gentlemen, too many gentlemen, But I
love both of those guys.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I love Max. I told you that you just prefer
like Stove and Jane. There you go.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know what I'm saying, Give me the stove balls
and then let Jen a kind of heal everybody and
calm everybody.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I would actually love to hear Stove over Jane like
type production. Yeah, yeah, but Stove in Max. But I do.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I mean it made sense because, like we spoke about
a few weeks ago, when we knew Max was coming home,
it was the perfect time because gods like Stove God
being as hot as he is right now, it's a
direct influence of Max being you know, a lot of
Max the melo rap that Max made, you know, popular
with his style. So I think it made sense for

(27:45):
them to be on the same show together. But I
just just just just too much. It's too many gentlemen
right now. It's just everybody gotta just relax. Any more
ladies around. Let the ladies have fun.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Like well, I know women that are Stove God fans,
let's not do that. I know a lot of women
that are Max b fans for sure. But I thought
about going. If I didn't cook all day, I probably
would have went to the show. On Friday. But I
would have went back stage. I hear you that, like
that would have been a little too aggressive.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yah for me. I would have stayed in the balcony
area and just enjoyed the show.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
But I did see Max be addressing the situation because
he performed a record where he throws shots at Jim
and people had something to say about it. It was like, oh,
you know, he's back on that type of time with
that energy, just throwing shots at Jim. And then Max
be addressed saying he didn't know that Flex was going
to play that record, saying that he only he didn't

(28:36):
even really know the lyrics, He don't even remember the lyrics,
just that and the third and I was I was like, Okay,
I can kind of understand what Max is saying.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
He caught off guard.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
He only agreed to do one or two songs, and
then Flex played that record, So I was kind of
understanding what Max was saying, like, Dann, that's on Flex.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
But then I saw the footage.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
And I saw Max two step into the record as
he was performing it, and I'm just like, that doesn't
say you didn't want to perform that.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Record, and the record they're referencing would be touched in
Miami Crew Yes.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Which was a very very very very big Max B
record that does address in a lleged situation with Jim
Jones's wife, And we don't need to get into that,
but I hear you because I saw the apology before
I saw the footage d Yeah, and I was like.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
All right, yeah, you can't two step into the song.
But you're a performer, You're right. But it's also it's
also part of the performance job. Because we've seen guys
perform before and their DJ play a record and they'd
be like, Nah, we're not doing that, yeah, and they
cut it off. We've seen that, yeah, and that plenty
of times with rappers, with singers, they're like, nah, I'm
not doing that tonight, whatever, whatever, going to another record.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I've watched NAS play ether and go love jay Z.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah. I mean you know, I was so mad enough
love jay Z nah man just don't even.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Do don't love performed that record. But what does this
mean for Max in Jim's relationship. We obviously Jim is
very firm on him never fucking with Max again and
him never being cool with Max again.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Do we think that this further ignites him.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Does this you know, listen that I'm not on the
side that everyone has to be Kolbaya. I think people
can dislike each other and just operate and exist in
the same space for sure. Like it's not beef, I
just don't fuck with you. We're not We're not going
to piece it up, but it's not I'm not wasting
my energy and my freedom for this shit. Yeah, I

(30:33):
don't think it's going to go anywhere. I'm glad that
Max did apologize after them, me too, because.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I like the fact that he addressed he apologized and
he said he wasn't on that. But then, like I said,
once you see the footage, it's like it looked like
he was on that.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It looked like you was.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Enjoying your time up there, and it's you know, to
be fair, Max is probably still, you know, just happy
to be home, happy to be back on stage, happy
to have people, you know, Bill, you know, showing him
love and wanting to take pictures with him and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
So he may have been caught up in the moment.
And you know, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Gonna say that he his intent was to disrespect Jim
on stage, that night.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know, things happen.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
But I do think that you know, he Max has
to understand, like, you know, you got to be very
careful because again, you want to come home. You don't
want to, you know, have this negative energy with all
his love that you're receiving. You want to kind of
embrace that love and move with love. But then you know,
moments like this unfortunately happen. And now we're talking about
you know, what does this mean between them? Is it

(31:33):
you know, how does Jim feels he you know, is
he up more upset than he already was? And you
know it's just it just it breeds unnecessary energy, unnecessary bullshit.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
I mean, I don't know if you're Jim, because Jim
is is a great businessman, and I think he understands
too that Max is even if he has disdained formats,
this is also a business opportunity to milk as much
as you can with your you know what home party
For the next month, I'll probably be looking at Flex

(32:04):
crazier than I would be looking at Max.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Max's.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
If if Max is my enemy, he's gonna do whatever
the fuck he's gonna do. I'm not expecting much from
my enemy. As far as grace with anything. I'm not
saying Jim Jones and Flex are best friends, but I'd
be looking at Flex a little crazier than I would
be looking at Max. Like That's where I think Jim's
energy may be because he knows how wild Max is.

(32:30):
No matter even though he's much older and things have changed,
He's still Max b at.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
The end of the day.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I don't think Jimmy expected a Kumbai ya uh released
with all the welcome home shit, but Flex, like.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
That's the record you play.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, we gotta we gotta, we gotta give Flex some
some some some backlash for that because it's like, come on, Fleck,
you know you know what this can ignite?

Speaker 4 (32:51):
You know it?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Cause Flex, we're too old to be playing those games.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Can I throw Flex?

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Can I just throw them a little like a little
bit I was about to do with Like, we don't
know what Max could have told Flex he plays the.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Record that's number one. Did Flex come out in the
dresser yet? No?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Because I feel like if if that was the case,
let's look that. I feel like he Flex would have
came out and been like Yo, First of all, Max
told me to play that recD like I feel like
Flex would do that if he was told to play
that record. I feel like Flex will keep it one
hundred and say, yo, they told me to play that record.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
So I know Flex is a DJ, and I know
that he knows the history behind that this song right,
But even when like she touched it in Miami comes
on for me, I don't immediately register it as a disc.
I register it as one of Max's biggest songs. So
like a song can be a game.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Well, let's called Grand Crew.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Okay, sorry, I always call it, everyone calls it. I'm like,
that's what it would save dot m P four in
my my little iPod touch.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
But I'm sure in Flex's serado would save this that too.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
You know the history, but there's a chance that you
just threw it on because just one of his biggest
songs and you didn't even think, oh fuck, this is enough.
Goes back to the disc and the heat of a moment,
you just throw on the biggest Max.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, if you've been.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Watching Flex for the last thirty years, Flex is very calculated.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Flex is a moment seecret.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
I don't mean that in a bad way as far
as moment seeker, because Flex has incredible moments, and seeking
moments isn't necessarily a bad thing, but we know Flex
Flex is far from them.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Like he knows what he's doing. Flex knew what he
was doing.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Flex knew exactly what he was doing. I don't think
he was just like, oh what about this one? Like
he knew he knew this one.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
He knew what he was doing, He knew the reaction
was gonna get Flex like he knew he But now
I didn't see the full footage of Max on stage,
but he probably was thinking that Max was going to
lean all the way into the record and really full
out perform the record.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
And you know, I'm.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Guessing that's the energy that Flex probably wanted on that
stage for whatever reason. So you know, it's it's a
big moment. You know, hip hop is competitive, is you know,
it's supposed to be that whatever whatever. But with this
situation here's totally different because again, Max is just coming home.
He don't need that type of negative energy you know,

(35:10):
with him, you gotta be you gotta move carefully with
this type of ship because this is a serious situation.
So yeah, I do I do think that, like Rory said,
Flex knows he knows what he was doing. Flex is
not a he's been spending records for a few years
to marriage. He's been doing this, he's been doing this
for a little while. He knows, Yeah, he knows. Flex
knows exactly what he's doing. Yeah, and I just think

(35:32):
that that was just a bad call. I think that
was a bad move. But again, shout out the Max
for addressing it. And I'm trying to clear it up
and and and you know, making sure that people understand
that that wasn't his intent. He's not trying to, you know,
lean into that beef and leaning to that energy like
he's you know, focused on a whole different thing now.
But it's just unfortunate that it happened because now, you know,

(35:53):
that's the only thing everybody's talking about from that now.
I didn't even even hear but how Stove's performance went,
All I'm hearing about is this, Yeah, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
So that's the things that happened.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
When you have these type situations, it takes so much
energy and light away from the rest of the evening.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yeah, And I mean I did see a lot of
Stove talk over the weekend as well, because he had
put out a single on Friday, the day that the
show was. I mean, I guess it was more like
the core stove God fans that didn't like it. But
we've talked about stove God in regards that out of Griselda,

(36:32):
with the talent that he has with the melodic shit,
And I know he's not Griselda per se, but we
said that that area of music, he could be a superstar.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
He's not allowed to grow a sound like it's got.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
It has to he gave for the last three fucking
years on every West Side Gun album, He's given you
the grindiest shit that you could ever want. There's forty
five grimy stove God records. Yeah, he can't have fun
for a fucking second. Well, I think that, you know, right,
And you can't get out of a deal real quick,
you're right, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, he can't try to get

(37:06):
out of his deal.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Too, Yeah, absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, yeah, na get these records to this deal. Yeah,
but I'm with the record. I actually like the record.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
No, I like the record.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
I think that, you know, I think people want to hear,
you know, stove on that boom bap sound forever because
that's what we kind of you know, we come to
love that sound from him. But I mean, he's still
on there. He's still stove on there. The music is
just a little different, but he's still talking. He's still
talking that shit. So it's like, I don't understand what
people are upset about. I thought the record was cool,

(37:36):
you know what I'm saying. As long as he still
is rapping and he's still talking slick, I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I don't care about that.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
I like when, you know, you try different things with
the music, you try to change the sound a little bit.
I guess people are like, you know, kind of like, damn,
he's he trying to go all the way you know, mainstream.
He tried to move his sound all the way mainstream already.
I just think that, you know, he's grown as an artist.
He obviously had a you know, big year with the
clips with that record, and I think that, you know,

(38:04):
he has more eyes and ears on him now, so
he just now he wants to show a little versatility,
and as an artist. I think that well, as consumers,
I think that we should allow artists to do that.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
We have to allow artists to.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Grow and change and try different things. You know, if
we want to listen to the.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Old boom bap.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
We can still go listen to it, but this is
something new and this is what Stove want to do.
But again, as long as he's still rapping at a
certain level, I'm cool.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
His tone is too great, his melodies are too great
to just stay in the same lane forever my BPM. Yeah,
I'm as much as I love that, I don't. I
think he's too talented to stay there. Yeah, Like even
when there's like rappidy rap rappers that I love to death,
some of them, I do want to just stay in
that that lane, like that's where you shine. To me,

(38:51):
Stove is way more special in his versatility, and I
think actually some of that holds him back of the
type of.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Music that we could get.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Like if you give me the fentanyl version of Ato
Weights and Heartbreaks, I would be fine. Like that's how
talented I think Stove is, and how the tone of
his voice is so much different than everyone else. Is
the way he finds pockets and melodies like, yeah, man, Stove,
experiment with everything.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
We know.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
If we get upset, we know you and Alchemist could
do five five record EP on some grimy ship and
we'd be back.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
So go experiment how you feel about a baby. I
haven't heard it yet.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
It wasn't it wasn't a blackout Wednesday, or it wasn't
out during blackout Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I was gonna say that the Q streets, I figured
like they would have been going crazy. Usually, did you
feel a way that he was in New York on
Friday night? Not in Q's. I mean he was working.
You know, we all got to work sometimes, that's the fact. Yeah,
the moment they make it they leave is crazy. The
moment they why.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
So while I'm still looking at your ass, why you
be wanting to leave?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
The close first I made it was New.

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Speaker 4 (42:10):
Well shit, I mean, I guess on the Max b
Flex Jim Jones conversation, I think that kind of ties
into the t pain rant on a club shah.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Let me not call it a rant. I hate that word.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
He was talking about Khaled during his club Sha Sha
shit and saying more or less, I'm paraphrasing. Cally was
my best friend when he needed me for the first
three fucking albums, and then then after that when I got.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
A little colder, I don't hear from cald I.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Okay, you know Teddy bender ass is one of my
favorite of all time.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I'm not here to even defend this.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Some music industry, why would you expect Kalen to be
your friend?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
It's because I'm so jayled at this point, and we've
had a similar conversation for I don't have the expectations
of people anymore.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Will I look at it?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Kind of funny if we were sitting in the studio
for ten years straight and we brothers this and that
and having fun, and then all of a sudden, you
don't call Yeah, I think that's corny and weird.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
So that's what he's like, that's what he's saying. Expect it.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
But that's what he's saying. Though, Like if we did
all of that, we have all of this history together.
We probably had some you know, heart to heart conversations,
spent a lot of time. You know, families probably know
each other to an extent, like and then all of
a sudden, like I can't get a all we did
was whin yeah, I can't get a return phone call.
I can't if I reached out for something, maybe you know,

(43:35):
I wanted you on a record and I couldn't get
that from you. I could understand t paint stance of,
you know, fuck DJ Khaled, But the thing I don't
understand is, and I've said it and people kill me
for saying it, but DJ Khaled is obviously very self serving. Yeah,
and I don't I don't understand how people don't understand
or see that by now, like he's very self serving.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Sure, which is fine, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Why he's been the businessman that he's been in the
music business, right, So I mean, but again T Pain
probably felt like they were a little close or a
little better than that.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
And you know, I mean, it is what it is,
if that's what his stance, If his stance is, he's
not fucking with Caled, and I'm sure he has because
T Pain is not somebody that I can remember ever
having a real issue with anybody other than auto to him.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I don't want to talk about Khaled's character per se,
because I don't really know Khaled as a human being.
But when I was at Deaf Jam, he was an
executive while I was at Deaf Jam. He was an
executive there and an executive at Sony, which was unheard of.
He's also a DJ executive, and DJs are only working

(44:44):
with what's hot at the moment. There's no tie to anything.
Kaled actually doesn't. I don't think gets the credit. He
deserves to be the executive that he is, but he
has the mind of a DJ and executive. He's only
going to fuck with what's hot and pitch it as
if they're brother. You don't think Lee or Cohen's self serving? Yeah,
you don't think Lucian Range is self serving. Yeah, you

(45:04):
don't think Kevin Laves is self not self serving? Like
as humans in their personal lives, like I'm sure with
their families, they're amazing people.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah, but business you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Yeah, you have to be to be successful.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Listen, those coming those companies are net thirty, net sixty ninety,
not just with paying people, but also with the relationship
with that person one hundred three thousand. You're only as
funky as your last cut. I don't owe you shit,
but you can't because you know, because because music, because
music is so emotional, and you're pouring your life into it.
Some some people rightfully so view it as that.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
It's a transaction, which is I don't care. I'm not
one of those people. It's not for some people, it's
not because you have a lot of art. It's not
one of those people.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
And I know that, But I'm just saying, you have
a lot of You have a lot of artists and
a lot of producers that work together that are very close,
that are like family. And I feel like, you know,
maybe Calid, well maybe Tea Pain felt like that was
him in Kalid, Like like we can go back and
look at the history. T Pain was on every big
Kalid record when it was We the Best and all
of that, Like.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
It was it was t Pain everywhere. It was ace
Hood everywhere.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
And now both of these gentlemen have you know, certain
feelings towards DJ Khalet. But I mean it's looking like
they're they're both in the same boat, and they're right
like Khalid used them when they was hot, you know,
it was making a lot of records, making big songs together.
Then once Bieber sent his vocals back, it was like
fuck ace Hood, fuck te Pay. Once you get in

(46:34):
future vocals and Beyonce vocals and Rihanna vocals. It's like,
I don't need T Pain no more. When I got Future,
I don't need you know, ace Hood, when I got
Hove sending you know, versus back, and I got nas
in the studio and I got you know. So I
mean T Pain probably feel like, all right, well I
asked for a record, which is probably what he did,

(46:55):
and Kalien didn't get back to him, didn't respond, and
so now he's like, okay, it's like that.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I well, then this is how I feel.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Fuck you, And T Pain is not wrong for that,
because again, this is the music industry, and we know
it's business. But through business and through you know, spending
so much time working with certain people, you build a relationship,
you build a chemistry, you build a friendship, you build
even family at some pole. We've seen a lot of
people in the industry become family through working with each other,
and you know, sometimes it goes that way. Sometimes it's

(47:24):
you find out this person was just using, and I
think that's what tea pain is at.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Yeah, where do you I mean, where do you fall
on the side of If you're not.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Being used, you're useless.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
I mean, yes, not about pain, but no, no, no,
I get what you're saying, because.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
My problem with this whole thing is Khalid is creative
enough and T Pain is a goat. You could kalent
and T Pain can make a hit record right now.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
But but you know it's I mean, listen, man, I'm
not the biggest cal Like, I don't like many of
the Kalid Projects albums.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I don't go back to a lot of those, the
early ones. I definitely like, well the early one, Yeah,
that's who was on the early ones. I think. So
what's the one with his son on the cover? That
is his son? EPs? I love that one.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Yeah, I don't want to mispronounce his son's name, but yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
That was probably my last favorite galat.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Yeah, but I just don't you know, I get it, man,
And it's a tough pill to swallow when you realize
that people's only using you because you was hot at
the moment.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
But it's a real thing.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
And I mean, I hate to go back to the
first point of executive and DJ like he's a DJ.
Even if you go to flex like, yeah, there's probably
artists that had two great records in ninety eight that
Flex played all the time. Does Flex owe them the
twenty twenty five record they want to put out like
he's a DJ, he just moves on to the next thing.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
But that's completely that's completely different.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
I'm sure, And I hate to just put Flex in this,
even though I'm critical of Flex, I don't want to
put something on his character. I'm sure Flex is called
Mike Geronimo brother before and I love my drop. Like
I'm just using an example of somebody that had a
great record in the nineties. I'm sure Mike has went
to Flex after like I got this other record and
Flex was moving on to DMX at that time, Like, yeah,

(49:17):
I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
I'm just playing show. So you could do that.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Then I could say, do you think that if Pat
poofs Ever went to Rest in Peace case Slave with
a record, Slave wouldn't have played.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
It wouldn't have happened. Fair wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
I'm trying to think like with Clue now, because even Clue,
when I mean Rand is probably one of the best
rappers of twenty twenty five, twenty four, twenty three, But
I'm sure when Rand was trying to find a record, Yeah,
Clue played.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
A lot of Rand on the radio now I think
about it, so.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
We know DJs they he had investment in, and I
don't know Clue In Rand's actual personal relationship. I'm only
outside looking in about the entire thing. Clue had an
invested stock in to eighteen with pitch In Ransom, so
he had a incentive outside of probably loving their music.
He wouldn't sign them if he didn't, but he had
an incentive to do so. I mean, does Kalent have

(50:12):
an incentive outside of ace hood is a different conversation,
But does kald have an incentive outside of what's popular?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
I mean, but when it seems like when it seems
like you know you have new famous friends, and then
you forget about your ol because t Pain is still famous,
and if you forget about this exist, you forget about
your old famous friends.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
That's corny to me. I agree with you. I think
get that porn. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
I'm just viewing it down to what t Payin said.
Brother means nothing to the people in the music industry.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
If your music.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Industry friends that I like, I don't know things in
that way. You can't say that because I don't operate
that way. But I don't expect other people that.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
I know, and I don't either.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
But we can't say brother means nothing to people in
the music industry because to some people in the music industry,
brother does mean something. And I have plenty of examples
of brothers in the music industry for sure. So that's why,
you know, just just say brother don't mean nothing.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
To cal Palestine.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Not its Palestine, like it's okay, just say that, but
don't don't make it, you know, a music industry thing,
because we do know the music industry is very cutthroat
and it's very fucked up. But we also do know
we have a lot of great relationships with great friends
and great family in the music industry as well.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
All Right, if Kali got super cold after the second album,
do you think T Pain would be like, Yo, let's
let's do a record in twenty twenty five. And Pain
never got cold to me, I'm just using an example.
Do we think T Pain would do the same thing?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
No? I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
You think he'd be like, all right, let's Kalid because
we had those first two projects, let's in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I got you.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yeah, we've seen we've seen alliers do it all the time,
autists that had hot record in the nineties, early two thousands,
and then they come back in twenty twenty five and
be like, shit, Nas in Premier about to put out
their first album, but.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
We're not I mean weird.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
No, I'm just saying, but they gave us something in
the nineties and been teasing an album for years, fifteen years,
I want to say, and now it was finally one
of them picked up the challenge. One of them picked
up the phone and was like, Yo, you know what
I'm saying. And Nas could have been like, Yo, Noah, Premium,
you ain't that hot right now. To me, I'm just saying.

(52:30):
I'm just saying he could. I'm just saying he could have.
He could have, especially coming up all the hit boys,
shit getting his first Grammy.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I just don't put caleent in Premiere in the same No,
I'm talking about the relationship.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, I'm talking about people still, you know, holding people
to a certain regard, even no matter if they hot, cold,
whatever it is. If we made good chemistry together, make
good songs, make good music together, I.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Don't care if you're not hot right now.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Like we made we got we made some shit together,
and we probably still got some shit in a hard
drop that we need to go revisit.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
But I mean that speaks to Prem's character too, because
Preem will, I mean that will work with anyone. That's
why I think he's a go outside of all the
amazing shit he did, but his him and Na's relationship
started when Nas was nobody at nineteen and gave him
New York State a month. Pream was already on group
home at Benout like Nas was nobody.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
He was like, ya, I got you.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Pream is just a different type of human being in
that regard. If he fucks with you, doesn't matter how
popular you are, he'll.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Say fuck and say brother means nothing to Calty.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Cream is amazing human beings. So say speak to I
know Pream, Well, say he's an other way. Cal don't
say the people industry. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Do we want to stay just quickly? In music? Not
that I mean this may be more of a Patreon thing.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
I'm just a rap nerd Beans put out his list
to top five Philly rappers excluding himself.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I was actually curious, what your list will be Philly rap?

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Yeah, so this is Being's top five greatest Philly without him,
of course, number one, Black Thought, number two, Young Chris three,
Freeway four, Meek Mill five, Gilly excluding him.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Yeah, I would want to hear where y'all put Beans
on there. I know he excluded him, but y'all.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Beans is number two.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
To me, my list would be Black Thought one, Beans too,
Freeway three, Chris four. Actually I got to stop wing,
but I don't know where to put Eve.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
You Beans is number one. I'm not mad at that
Beans being number one.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Beans is one of my Black Thought is a fucking alien.
He could probably rap better than ninety nine percent of
niggas on planet. I would say one, but I don't
listen to Black Thought as much as I listened to Beans.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Okay, but we're talking about the greatest rap and me
and you have had this discussion too, where just because
you listen to something more doesn't make it greater.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
So greater rappers, I'm still going my five I'm sticking with.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I'm just I feel like Eve deserves to be in
that five, but I have Black Thought, Beans, Freeway is meek,
But I want Eve to be somewhere out there because
she deserves to be there.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
She does, but if it's five, I don't like.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Does Chris rap better than Eve? Of course, but I
still have to put in, like Gilly what Eve has done.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Gilly rap better than Eve. Yes, okay, I'm not familiar
with Gilly's pen.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
No, Gilly is a great rapper. Gilly is a really
really really good rapper. He does just wonder. Yeah, Gilly
rats better than Mek.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Yeah, but I put Meek there just because of what
Meek has accomplished with songs, and but Gilly rap better
than me for sure.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I think Meek would probably say that, no he does,
It's not. I mean, it's not he does Gilly.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Listen, a lot of y'all met Gilly through podcasting, like yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, it was putting
out you know, he was dropping Joyce. He was on
every fucking DVD. Like, Gilly definitely raps better than a
lot of people think. And a lot of people really
don't know Gilly's you know, his his his bars like that,
but trust him.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
But he's definitely one of the illo for Philly.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
And it puts some respect just on Philly periods. I mean,
the way people talk about Hove taking young Christmas Flow.
People will say the same thing about Wayne when everything shifted,
it was a Gilly flow.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
It was definitely I mean Philly he said. Gilly said
you was wearing soft toed rebox when I mentioned so,
y'all wasn't watching Flow.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
It is iconic the way Wayne we talk about being
so influential, Like there's a Gilly Flow. Yeah, Like I'm
not on the side that he your ghost rip everything
for Wayne or I didn't want to get in the
weeds to that. But Philly, between Detroit and Philly, I
think are probably the two best cities of.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Just straight rapping. Like if you.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Just gotta rap, New York's not in there just to rap,
not song he not the most song bars, just bars.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Philly and Detroit. There, Man, that's top two to you.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
You ugging the fuck out man, you think Detroit rap
better than New York?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
You crazy as a motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
All right, Big Pun versus Eminem And you know I'm
not even a big m fan like that?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Why you snatch Big Pun? Because how you were doing
doing New York? How did you get that? Was that
was horrible to do? How was that Big Pun in Eminem?
What kind of matchup is that we're talking about people
that just just rap.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Really, we don't think big Pun rats really really really well, yes,
but I'm saying Pun is not one of the rappers
from New York yet.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
All right, So why you didn't name jay Z, why
you didn't name Nas.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I think Pun and M have a similar flow than
nads in Eminem or Jay in Eminem. I think Pun
and Eminem are closer together as far as how they rap.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
What do you know how Jay started rapping? Yeah, like
the fucking double time pullshit, that's not what M does
dead in the middle of Italy. Like, I can't even
do that ship.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
That's to me, that's one rap, that's one part of
a rat you talked about that wasn't Pun style.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
And throughout his.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Career for sure, But I mean the first album rapping,
rapping like he rapped with black thought.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Actually no, Pun, No, don't, don't get it twisted.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
But matter of fact, it's somebody I thought.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
And the first thing when he even got on Pun's
album was just in Philly. It was like, Yo, that's
the one in New York that just raps better than everybody.
That's why he wanted to get on that ship because
Pun was one of those.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
I'm not saying Pun wasn't, but it's just weird for
you to say Pun versus Eminem, Like who's Hawaiian?

Speaker 2 (58:21):
The first person ever? So he defines jay Z and
how his rap style is.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
No, I'm not saying that, but you might be the
first person to ever say big Pun or Eminem. You
might be the first person to ever say that.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
I'm not doubling down just because I'm fucking hard headed.
I do think that's a very fair comparison if you're
doing Detroit versus New York, of who raps similar, Pun
and m are very close in that.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
All right, I'm taking Pun.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Well, I'm too, but that's I'm talking about. So now
the Golden horson Detroit is out. So now who you got?
I leave New York away from all these. Don't do
the bias.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Nah, you said Detroit and Philly are the best rap cities.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
That's what you said. Yeah, because in Detroit you have
m Royce el.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Zi Yep, legends rap is for real. Shit, I'm just
having a brain fard. It's okay, far Yeah, should I
start naming New York because I can, Like, if you
want to just start naming New York for you.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
I can you know who would you name in New
York taking away song making ability just rap?

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Just because why I'm making that comparison is, yes, of
course New York freestyle like that, but New York was
so focused on making songs from the nineties in two thousands.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
In Philly and Detroit, who's just rapping? No hours on end.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Just Philly is one of my favorite rap cities. You'll
never hear me say anything about the Spitters. I'm talking
about the niggas that really could rap from Philly, Like
it's incredible bars that we can we can quote. But
when you say best rap cities and you go Detroit
and Philly and it's.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Like, what think?

Speaker 4 (59:54):
I think m Royce and ELSI is the craziest three
when it comes to just rap.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Like period, j Nods and Big on show were talking
about about who are you talking about? Nobody raps better
than Jaynas and Big Nobody on.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Planet I'm not going to I know where my bias
stands on everything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
But so what are we talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
We're going to give you on y'all ass fighting for
eminem to be better than all three of them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Y'all do not know better than who j nos are big.
Yeah people, You niggas better go back and listen to
some music. Jay z Nas and Biggie are the best.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
I always take J over M in any category. But
I can totally see why someone be like not M.
If you print out a piece of paper, yes, he's
rapping better than everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Somebody from l A is screaming across the coast right
now by.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
LA rappers respect to all the all the major cities.
You know, we we can name a bunch of cities.
But I'm just saying Rory said.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Even the last ten years and LA has been out
wrapping everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
L has been out rapping and everybody. He's had this conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Easy, but if you're going back to the nine, he's like, yeah,
it's Snoop incredible, of course, but it doesn't add up
to all the rappers that were in New York at
that time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
You told about rapping.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Every time, Yeah, you say Snoop name, I just think
about that Snoop and DMX versus. I hate that versus
so much. I hate that they did that, that match up.
You didn't hate that match up of course, like I
hate it. I really can't believe they did that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Like DMX said, he was molestedy y'all kept dancing, but
to you, he always got to make your with that.
That was my takeaway from that. Yeah, I just hated that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
I never think that Snoop and DMX was supposed to
be in the verses against each other like that was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I didn't like that matchup, but rest.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
To be fair, sorry, who would you have rather matched
him up with? Because what I saw that was I
saw that as more of a celebration in a real
versus because who would you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Put them against? Snoop? Snoop might be easier. Who would
you put dm X against?

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Hmm, I don't know why I would have put x agon.
So I have to think about that. Because we were recording,
I can't really think of it. But I just didn't.
I remember when they announced that. I was just like
Snoop versus DMX. It just that was just it just
never felt if I mean were looking at it, we

(01:02:20):
Snoop dogg and then DMX was the dog man. I
think they tried to lean they went that way with it.
But if you're talking about catalog and and you know,
skill set, and it just it wasn't a good matchup, No.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
For sure, But that's why I said I think some
of I think some of the verses were more celebrations
than that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I mean, that's what it turned out to be, you
know what I'm saying. But I just didn't like I
remember when they announced that, I was kind of like,
I don't really like that, but I was happy that
they gave DMX that platform because a lot of people
needed a history lesson on DMX, So that was dope.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
While we were talking about West Coast rap and then
we can move on to Kim k having autism or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
But wait, what ignore Rory?

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Why is everyone trying to give Game shit? Listen, we
know Game has been proven to tell some tall tales before,
but him saying he tried to sign Kendrick, I don't
think is as crazy as the outrage has been. I
understand that Kendrick's bodyguard, who used to I guess work
with Game as well parton two t's I'm just not
familiar because you know, I'm thirty five from New York.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
But he had said that's bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
He's lying the first time I think I ever heard
Kendrick Lamar was when he was Kadot on a Game mixtape, like,
I don't think it's crazy that Game may have, in
passing said the top you know, can I sign this guy?
Like the outrage for this is because Game has said
way crazier lies.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, okay, so bring me up to speech.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
So Game said that he tried to see the Kendrick
and people are saying the Game is lying.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
He was doing he was doing an interview saying that
he tried to sign Kendrick. He went to Top Dog, like,
you know, because Game in you know five was brought
back to West and Jay Rock was bubbling around six
and seven. So Top has even said before Game him
in Game have a good relationship. He was suggesting that
he kept asking Top Dog if he could sign Kendrick

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because they were just focused on j Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
But he's like, yo, this young guy is hype man.
Can I sign him?

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
And two teas who worked with Game at the time,
but I think they have somewhat of a real relationship now.
Is also Kendrick's bodyguard, and he reactivated his Instagram just
to say, yo, he's he's lying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
He did not try to sign Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
And I'm just more I guess weirded out by like
all the backlash to Game, Like I could totally see
Game who put ka Dot not Kendrick Lamar kay Dot
on a mixtape?

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
What didn't bring that up in passing to top? Like, Yo,
I don't, I don't. I don't think Game was lining up.
That's very easy to see it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
There's a way more egregious lie from Game with Kendrick
when he said that he told Kendrick he.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Has to change his name from Katts Kentrick Lamar. But
he might have been he might not be lying with
that either.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Well, they found an interview with Kendrick explaining when he
changed the name and why he changed it. But who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
That doesn't mean he never Game never told him that.
He's just saying when he changed his name. That don't
mean Game didn't nothing to him about that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Just looking in the last two days at this whole outrage,
I think it's just because anytime you bring up anything
that's to do with Kendrick, Drake whatever, it just becomes
a spectacle.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Now. But I was sitting there like, yeah, that makes
sense to me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
It wasn't to Kendrick Lamar ep because I heard him
on a Game mixtape.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Yo, they really don't fuck with Game because he didn't
show up to that pop out like La has. They
have literally distanced themselves from Game and like a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
But then they say that then he said that he
wasn't invited or something like that. You think Game wasn't
invited to that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Not?

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Well, I mean Game in the before the pop out
and everything, when the Beast started, Game was sitting on
his porch and I respected it. He is a long
relationship with both of them. It was like, I'm not
getting involved with y'all ship more or less. I mean
that's that's the five second version of the twenty minute
long live that he did. Yeah, that's it, which I mean, like, okay,

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to stay out of it. Yeah, if I have wrong,
a great relationship with this person. I've known Kendrick since
he was fucking seventeen, Like I to this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Changed his name, He told him to change.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Yeah, Discovery not doing just happening ding dong ditch his
mother's house. Was like, you're the next one. I'm sure
that's a Game story somewhere. Yeah, understand, remaining neutral, Like
I have a great relationship with Drake this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Is this is the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Yeah, they just given games, They just given game ship.
Now that's all this is because I could definitely see.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
I don't think Game was invited to this pop up.
Well he didn't say that. He just said I'm just
my own, but I could. I'm wrong on the time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
You don't think Game was invited to the No? Why?
I just don't Game.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
I think things got the whole far at that point
that everybody, anybody ever put out a song in California
probably was invited to the prop up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Game is on the Mount Rushmore of California. You think
he Will wasn't invited to the pop out? Nah, he
was invited, I think, And.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
I think he may have said he was. He was
invited in his uh, I think he may have said that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
It was a while ago.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
I can't remember, but I think I remember him saying like,
you know, he just declined or something like that, like
he wasn't gonna go Like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Well, I mean a I would never lie to us.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
The game was not to write ext mall pop a concert,
which I got all the I don't pay attention to that. Well,
I didn't want to get into that bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
I'm super excited that Game and DJ dram A putting
out a project.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
What's the exact day? Can we let that up?

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
The twelfth December twelfth Game, DJ Drama Gangster Guilt Girls.
I can't, sir, I'm getting used to these teeth thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
To Gilly gangs to get who's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
I'm still still have a little bit of a lisp.
I can't wait for this, Like fifteen year old Rory,
this is a dream come true.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Shout out the Game, Shout out to Drama. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
I think I think the game is going You know, Game,
he's gonna have some things to address.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Well he said he said album is coming at the
top of the year, so this is just a mixtape.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I think Game is gonna diss everybody on this.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
I don't think Game is gonna take his opportunity to
do against the grills and not dis literally everybody. Yeah,
I think we may get five hundred bars and running.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
All right, Well, you say everybody who you talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
Everybody who's everybody put a bullet put a name on
that bullet hole to pop out everybody that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
I think he's gonna address everybody that has something to
say about him not being at that show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Yeah, Game's not somebody that's gonna hold back on a dream.
I have an album coming outside. I'm gona dress all
this ship on a mixtape right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Game ain't never duck, no controversy, no smoke. One of
the better battle rappers in hip hop history. Yeah, he going.
I think he's using this gangst the Grills to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Get because you know when whenever guys go through things
like that and then they get quiet and then they
pop out with against the Grills, it's like, all we
know what she was doing like these last ten months,
Like okay, now you got a gangster girls coming. So yeah,
it's safe to say that I think that a lot
of this, a lot of these balls are going to
be addressing certain things that happened in the past year.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Doubt the last Game album, he did an eight minute
Eminem Discs for no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
They weren't on bad terms, they didn't that back and forth.
He just did it just just to light eight.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
Minutes on an album about Eminem. You don't think Game
is about to address everybody on a gangst.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
The Girl's mixting, Oh well, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
I cannot wait for this shit and the silence that
Drama had in our group chat made me feel like
there's some shit on there. It definitely is no, but
like game of course, his game is Drama of course.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
But I think there's some wild shit on there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Nah, I just think it's typical game shit getting some
shit off his chest. Addressing the bullshit, I don't think
it's gonna be nothing that's like too crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Though. We are talking about Jacon Taylor. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
I'm looking forward to it. I mean, anytime Game put
out new music, I like to hear what he's doing.
So shout out the game, Shout out to DJ Drama,
one of my favorite rappers. Can't wait for that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Let's get to way more important news. Kim Kardashian's frontal
lobe has no activity.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
There's nobody there. Low activity, asshole? What does that mean?

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
So in my research, I'm my little Google research, my
little Google research, it says the low brain activity in
the frontal lobe can indicate issues with executive functions like planning, reasoning,
and post control and motivation, and that can lead to
symptoms such as personality changes, difficulty with social judgment, things,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Et cetera.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Also motor functions like slow movement, poor handwriting, and is
associated with conditions such as ADHD depression in front of
lobe disorders.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Oh me and her got the same brain.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Oh well, if it's motor skills, then it's it's Caitlin
Jenner that they need to look into frontal lobe.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Too soon.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Pease, please don't leave leave it, leave that in there.
Kim kind Kim k finds out she has low brain
activity in her frontal lobe, and now the Internet is
saying they think that this is Kim k setting the
screen to kind of endorse getting chips implanted into our brains.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Look how fast we.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Turned Kim Kate Kim K now saying that she is
you know, she has low activity in front of lobe.
Now people are saying, okay, Kim, we know what this is.
You're about to start sponsoring or you're about to be
the face of implant chips.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Kim can't even look.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Kim can't even have a low functioning frontal lobe without
you trying to attach it to her, trying to get
a bag for some fucking science that's coming.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Around the country. Now, a girl from the valley can't
have a low brain.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Like, what the fuck are we talking about? Man like?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
But I mean hopefully you know, do we think that
this has anything to do with her pat not passing
the by?

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
No, because I just explained to y'all literally what low
brain activity in your frontal lobe means, and it had
no things to do with intelligence.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Oh, nothing to do. But look, that's my frontal lobe.
Is not because I didn't even retain.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Yeah, you were too impulsive. That's why just here the
third eye is not. It's a little vazine on the
third eye as.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Something that's hilarious even the street, just seeing somebody just
put this on their forehead.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
They gotta put the vazine right here next time. My bad.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
As someone that is a conspiracy theorist, I don't even
know how y'all even jumped to that, but maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
They're right, because there's been a couple.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Of conspiracies that I've been like, this is bullshit and
ended up being true. This could be the path I'm
As much as I think Kim k is a very
accomplished businesswoman, she doesn't really influenced much in my life.
I wouldn't go get a brain ship and use code
Kim to do, but do we think people would look

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at Kim to then start putting chips in their brain?

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
No, if it was anything beauty related, maybe, but I
don't think people are going to to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Put chips out. Where do they put makeup on their
third eye?

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
That is true, But yeah, I don't Right over here,
I think I can't see it. I get people trying
to attach the Kardashians to all kind of crazy shit.
Y'all like to, you know, put the Kardashians in a
lot of bullshit, But I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
I'm not correlating this.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
I think that you know, she obviously got tested on
the show for a frontal lob okay, find out she
has low brain activity in front of low.

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Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Shout out to Walden University. I mean, this is did
you see the nl Chopper video?

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
I did see it yet, and y'all I've been trying
to show me this video. I saw like ten seconds
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I saw you only need to see one say yeah,
I saw what he was wearing and I just cut
it off. I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
I couldn't get it to but shout out to NLI Chopper.
I just couldn't get into it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
I saw Freddy get Freddy Gibbs posted it, posted this,
That's how I saw it to begin with. Then I
saw the internet killing him. I think the videos fire
and the song is fire. I'm not familiar with the
whole young Boy disc and even the one he did
before when he had the fake young Boy in the video.
I have no idea whether history is nor do I
fucking care. But this video is incredible and the song

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is kind of fire on the low. Like I would
do this TikTok challenge, I just can't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
I don't know enough about nlit Chopper. I don't know
what his what's his thing?

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
What is he like? What is he what does he rapping?

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Is he singing? Is he rap singing? Is it melodic raps?
He's basically Prince all right, I'm not listening to baby.
What is NL Chopper?

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
He's apper, but he has his melodic moments.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
But he is a rapper. Told that a boy star? Nah?
She put the world on.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
I mean, I know he was popular before, but until
Damera says something on Patreon, I don't think he was
gonna go as viral as he was gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I don't care if he's beefing were young boy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Really this is another NBA young boy dis Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
How many are we at now? I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Yeah, I'm just trying to I know, I think this
is two three two.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Okay, but I did try to give him a chance,
and now he's pretty good okay. And I know everyone
joked on this. This song is really not that bad,
so I should check this out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Yeah, I just saw what he was wearing and I
was just like, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
But do you think this is like what the goal
of a music video should be at this point? As
much as I like love and respect artistry and like
art and film and cinema, the point of a music
video is a commercial for your song.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
True, you should be trying to just go viral with
funny shit sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Or just make good music and let that go viral.
And I think it's good, but okay, I mean, like
you seriously like it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
It's not something that I'm I probably won't never listen
to the song again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
But when I watched the music video, I was like,
all right, okay, I kind.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Of don't even understand why people killing it. It's funny,
Like I get why Freddy Gives is probably in his
house on Thanksgiving laughing for twenty minutes straight because it's hilarious.
Because Freddy even said he's like, I don't know why
I'm laughing, and I felt the same way. I don't
know why this is hilarious to me, but it's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
I remember him doing like a weird dance move in
one of the videos, and I was just like, I
don't know what he's It just looked like it was
something that I just felt like I shouldn't subscribe to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
I don't know, but I'll check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Okay, I say he's trying to give us was just
his rendition of thriller Rey, Well, it was just like
Ace vent Or pet Detective.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
And now he eating it's supposed to come out of
a rhinos ass.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Yeah, that's I thought that was next. They couldn't get
the rhino. They couldn't find a trained rhino.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
You think Jim Carrey used the rhino. It wasn't even
real rhino in the movie. Oh man, he looked like
he had having fun, though. Man, fuck it, if nothing else,
have a good time creating art.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
You know, I saw a lot of people on Twitter
saying if this came from another artist, like one that
we revere more. They would think if this is the
most incredible thing ever, And I kind of felt what
they were saying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Yeah, if this was Missy, we would be like, this
is the most incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
It's a good video.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
No, it looks great, like the video shopped very well.
It looks it looks great. I just got to hear
what he's what he's saying, but the video not of
visually it looks Yeah, like I said, I saw the
outfit and I was just like, I don't know what
an elite choppers on right now?

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
What he doing? And I kind of just turned it off.
But this looks good. Is he in a relationship or something?
Isn't it popular because of dating too? I don't know. No,
popular because of dating that's a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
That's a thing, but not that is a very thing
more than being popular for your music. It's a crazy statement.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Being popular for dating is a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
Well, while we're on to put me on segment now,
I'm even nervous because because the Marrit said the standard
so high?

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Do you have something for put me on this week?

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Yeah, it's a new show on Prime. Peacock All her fault,
the coda Fanning is in it. Jay Ellis is in it,
Sarah Snook. It's about a woman goes to pick up
her son who's on a playdate with a boy that
he goes to school with. When she arrives to the house,
the mother doesn't know who the lady is never heard of,
her doesn't know who her child is, never heard of.
The child starts the investigation. Now her and her husband

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are looking for the sun. They start to find out
a bunch of deep, dark family secrets. Like it's one
of those shows that I think everybody like during the
pandemic when we were watching Your Honor, Yeah, and the undoing,
the undoing. Yeah, I feel like this is leaning down
the undoing path, kind of like who done it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
What's going on? Type of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
But a lot of heavy hitters, a lot of heavyweights
is in the show. So all her fault on Peacock
Amazon Prime Video.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
That's funny. I was gonna watch that because I did
hear good things. Yes, you should definitely watch that, baby.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
They'll have edins peacock logging, So I'll tune in tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Yeah, you'll, that's that's your type of you'll, you'll binge it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
To my type of shit.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Yeah, all right, since she went TV show, I'll go
music Hales, who I've talked about for years. I think
she's incredibly, like criminally underrated. Hale's the five EP five records.
It's fourteen minutes. Throw that shit on when you're in
the car. It's absolutely incredible. Like she's one of my
favorite R and B artists by by far five EP

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by Hale's h A. I l e s. We worked
on some music together as well. I hope she gets
the credit that she deserves because she's one of them
in my opinion. Kansas Peach. She lives in New York now,
but yeah, she's from Kansas. She's incredible. I think I
should I even put uh when we were doing twenty

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twenty three R and B lists, I think I put
good Things Take Time by her at like number two
of my favorite albums of that year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
She she's incredible. To check out heels Uh demis.

Speaker 5 (01:22:04):
Mona Leo and this most people know who Mono Leo is.
So this isn't me trying to put y'all on. This
is me trying to put the boys on. Because I
we talk about female rappers a lot, and we tend
to talk about the same ones, but I do want
to let you know that there are others. Mona La
Mona Leo is from Houston. She's really really good. She
has a wide variety of things that she talks about.

(01:22:26):
It's not I wouldn't consider Mono Leo pussy rap, but
Mono Leo is really really good. Ye yes, oh yeah,
I know that is she looks Yeah, mall, you should
check out Sexy Solon but she she sexy who Sexy Solon.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Is a song.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
She has sexy Salon like hair Salon, No Solon, oh Solon?

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Yes, okay, I mean we love Houston women. Yeah. She
she just married Stunner for Vegas. It was a very big,
cute pink That's why I've not seen her face before.
All right, okay, yes, all right, so yeah, so who
are you dating?

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
That's the that's the get off that don Julio and
yes's her, But she has so many other songs, so
she's she's really good. She's going on tour at the
end of this year going into the next year, and
I think that twenty twenty six is going to be
like a.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Huge year for her soon Leo. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
this isn't really putting anyone on. But while we're here
talking about TV shows, we're recording this on December one,
December tewod the Puff Netflix documentary comes out tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
That is EP by fifty. He's been doing press runs
and interviews about it already. He did Good Morning America too,
He did Yeah, Yo fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
With fifty doing Good Morning America. I didn't even know
if it to get up that early.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
He went for this. He didn't go to bed. He
threw a suit. Oh yehuit, Oh yeah, a good suit,
oio fit. I think it's a teal suit. It was
a color I've never even seen.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Fifty end Yo, fIF is fucking crazy, man. What do
we think we'll get out of this?

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
And by the time everyone hears this that the doc
will be out, So again we're speculating. I don't think
we're going to get much out of this, based off
even the trailer and what they talked about with Good
Morning America where they had footage of Puff wanting hand
sanitizer after he dapped a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
I was like, this is what we're doing. You know,
you know I love fifty and revere him all that shit.
He said.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
I think it just speaks to his character. I'm like,
I want hand sanitizer sometimes after I da have somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
I don't know with these documentaries though, because I feel
like we saw so many documentaries before Puff even went
to court.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Yeah, no, the next day. How fast does it take that?
How long? How quick I think do a document This.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Is more of an actual doc the way like some
of those on Hulu and everything that were like literally
the next day are just you know, they're they're getting
five talking heads that work in media and then they're
just piecing together photos and telling the story.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
This, I think is supposed to be a real doc. Okay, well,
we'll have to check it out. I don't know what
we're gonna find out that we don't know already that
we haven't heard. But fifty was on Good Morning America.
I gotta watch, he sold me. No, I'm gonna watch
to watch it. In no way am I a Puff
supporter by it any means. But the gotcha clip that

(01:25:21):
they put on Good Morning America, I was like, all right,
is this necessary?

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
But that's why I want to watch it, because I
just want to see, like this is.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
The gotcha moment? Yeah, hand sanitizer. But again, there could
be crazy shit in there. But if this is what
they're using to sell a documentary, I don't know if
we're gonna get much information.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
It's Netflix, right, Netflix? All right, Well, gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Check it out your fifties. He'd be bored sometimes, all right,
so put me on Walda University. Don't forget we are
checking out Mono Leo. I gotta see what Mona Leo talking. Yes,
out Hal's five ep, Hel's five ep and all her
fault on Peacock Prime Video.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
It's always her fault. It's always her fault. Finally, somebody
said it. I've been waiting for this series.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
We're gonna come, We're gonna we're gonna come back and
talk about it after I watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
But I'm willing to bet it is her fault. It's
the mother's fault. That would make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
I'm willing to bet it's all her fault. And you
know what, I bet she takes no accountability. Yeah, oh no, no, no,
definitely don't know accountability. No, that's not in not taking accountability.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Uh yeah, I can't. I can't wait to watch that
over the week. But let's get to voicemails.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
You got mail sponsored by boost Moe Unlimited thought backs
and Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Says you're from New York. Fans of the show had
a question for Yah. So basically, like somewhat recently, you know,
me and my mom's kind of had like some some
some dope bonding moments or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
And I remember like she was getting into bud.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
When she was older, when I was older, She's always
been older.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
She was like, ya, I want to grow plans. I'm like,
I bet I hit my boy. My boy came through
blustered with some plants. To this day, she grows butt
and whenever she comes to see me, she'll bring me
some button. We smoke together, and I just feel like
that's some real dope shit that like I never thought
as a kid, like, you know, me and my mom
could bond like that, Like smoking in front of my

(01:27:15):
mother was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
So my question to ya is, you know, what's the
what's your.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Favorite bonding moment that you had with like either one
of your parents that y'all remember to this day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
H Favorite bonding A really really good question. It's a
really good question. Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
The earliest bonding moment that I can remember with my
mom was definitely music listening to Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
I always his Off the Wall.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
My mom had a whole bunch of vinyls and I
would always grab the Off the Wall album cover. There
was something about just Michael Jackson in the in the suit,
you know, standing against the brick wall, like something about
that cover.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Always like being drawn to it, and then my mother
playing thriller and things like that, like introduce me. I
remember my mom introducing me to Michael Jackson at a
very young age.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
What about as an adult, like we bonding moments? Can
you remember as an adult.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
We watched a lot of shows together, not like together,
but like we'll follow shows, like we'll put it put
each other on to like shows. I put my mom
on a lot of shows and just talk about shows
and laugh about certain shit that we've seen in the shows.
Like so that's that's been kind of cool, like watching
my mom like watch some of the shows that I like,
and then she'll watch them like I ain't like that shit, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
She'll call me back like I couldn't finish it. I
ain't like that. I was like three episodes in.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
But that's been pretty cool to like watch shows my
mom and kind of follow things and then see the
shit that she'd be watching and I'd be like, yo,
what do you what is this?

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
What am I watching right now?

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
But she always has like a show here and there
that she like it. I'm like, Okay, that was cool.
Succession is a shit, so she'll probably like all her
fault She'll definitely. I think she's watching it now. She's
definitely watching all the Succession she loves. She just loved
the way, uh, everybody was dressed in Succession, Like, oh
my god, they be wearing that ship. I'm like following

(01:29:08):
the story, not really looking at the suits, but I
get it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Yeah, they do have very very great suits on Succession. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
Even what's Shorty's name in Succession? Uh Blanken the daughter
that's bad, no tet the tip of my tongue.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Pause. She has such a cool name name my kid.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
After Oh my god. And I know everyone's screaming at
their fucking ship. Her wardrobe was fired through the whole
thing too, Like she looked good. Yeah, she went crazy,
I would say. With my pops, we drove from Miami

(01:29:53):
to Key West for his little sister's birthday one year.
I'm a have been like twenty three or four. That
was a cool drive because he let me like control
the music and like, I just got to play my
pops a bunch of music I liked and like watch
him like the music that I like more as like

(01:30:16):
it being racket. Yeah that and yeah, it was just
like a cool bonding moment and then driving back. I mean,
I know there's not much detail I can give in
those conversations, but yeah, that was like one of those
like oh my dad is my friend again, like or
we buried a lot of bullshit that we've had, and yeah,
it was probably that Miami to key West, Key West

(01:30:36):
back to Miami. My mom's sort of similar to we
got invited to my cousin that passed husband got remarried
in Hawaii and we went out to the wedding and
we weren't really part of that family.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
So me and my mom just got to kick it
for like three four days and just chill.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
So yeah, I don't have like a really cool story
because it's more personal, but yeah, those moments of just
like chilling with your parents one on one as an
adult exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
He's just laughing at me now, I feel insecure. He's
just so inve but I'm trying to pour my heart out.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Me and my pops stopped at the bars that have
like the tarpin fish that you could feed, like it
was a bonding moment and just thinks that's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
How old do y'all remember the moment that y'all like
started looking at your parents as just like adults and
not your parents.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Really mid twenties, that's like a real thing, you know,
you realize that, But.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
It's also a cool thing because I think it kind
of helps you want to pass. Yeah, it kind of
helps you get past certain shiit resentment that you have
might have towards your parents for whatever happened growing up.
When you realize, like, oh, my parents was just trying
to figure it out. They were they were teenagers, they
was young adults with a kid and just trying to
figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Even finding out a few episodes ago that your dad
was in Vietnam, Like that humanized them for me even more,
based off the stuff that you've told me about your pops,
Like it added contact to some shit, like what that
would be like coming back from Vietnam and the place
that you would be mentally at that point, Like even
that humanized it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Pops more to me. Yeah, when you realize that they're
no smarter than us.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Just trying to figure it out. Man, give your parents
some grades, oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
For sure. As a I'm trying to think. What else?

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Me and my dad Thanksgiving? Ironically we saw the butt
fumble in person, and no, I know, like I'm not joking.
It was a great day because me and my dad
didn't do Thanksgiving. Him and I just went to the
Jets game and like just one on one on a holiday,
skipped all the family shit.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
It was like a nice fucking time in that regard.
That was another cool bonding moment for me and my mom.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
My mom took me to see the Kings of Comedy
Okay at Madison Square Garden. It was just me and
my mom and I had like I was drinking, say,
because they had like waits with like the trays of
champagne walking around the garden and my mom have like
two and let me have one. Like I don't think
I was I wasn't twenty one yet. What year it
was the Kings of Comedy, the original Kings of Comedy

(01:33:07):
Lower show MSG.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
That was definitely the early two thousands, two thousand and five,
maybe okay, So yeah, I was, I was legal. I
was I was overdrink barely legal. It's my favorite keywords.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Two thousand, two thousand and one, two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Two thousand, oh so yeah, I don't right, Yeah, I
was twenty so I mean I was. Yeah, I was
twenty a little something. Yes, I remember that. I remember
like the way this was. Walking around the garden. They
had like champagne on the trays and people could just
you could just take one. And I remember my mom's
NAT's like two. Me and I had some champagnes. Me
and my mom went to see The Kings of Comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
That was dope. That was I remember that night. That
was a dope night.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
I know it's a complete left field ship, but it
reminded me of my mom taking me to the Heartbreaker tour.
I got in the wildest Mariah Carey argument ever last night,
and I think it was I think these people listen
to the show I was at. I was at my
man Denzil's thirty fifth birthday at his crib, and I
felt like I was being yelled at by seven demeritss

(01:34:11):
at one time. Good. I apologize to the Mariah Carey community.
I did not know you guys had the stands that
you you guys have. I almost like left early from
the birthday party because I was just being cursed out
by Mariah fans. I almost FaceTime demeris to be like,
here's your trip. Yeah, I'll add you to Yeah. People
with common sense. I love that they still exist. Yeah,

(01:34:34):
but they also know. They also try to tell me
that Mariah Carey is the better vocalist Beyonce and jaz
Minsullivan and I want to lose my goddamn months.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
We're not going to do that, go to lose my
fucking mind. But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
This is why I don't fucking baby D because Mariah
just put out an album and I ain't hear baby
D play at one time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
You haven't heard me play mad ships that I listened
every time I come in here. You got some just lied,
you're a liar.

Speaker 5 (01:35:00):
This was the last time you heard me play music
in here. The last time you heard me play some
music in here was when Cardi's album dropped.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
That's it. I don't even be playing three weeks ago.
That was not three weeks ago. I was damn there.
That was two months ago. Same shit. No, I don't
play music in here. Who's counting?

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
Do you like it? In Maria?

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
I haven't listen to it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
It's good, but with Mariah it's tough. I go through
the same thing with Janet. It's like, this is a
please stop saying that it's not. I'm sure that there's
some auto tune on her voice, but Ai, I.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Don't be different. I'm not even I'm not even trying
to be funny. I think like they Ai Mariah's voice.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
I know we talked about that, and I don't agree
with you, so we can agree to disagree on that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
But if we find out that it was Ai, you're
gonna say sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Say sorry to you. I would say I was wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
I don't tht the mentality. My feelings are hurt right now?

Speaker 5 (01:35:45):
Oh okay, I don't give a fuck, but I will
tell me and say that I'm wrong, say that I'm wrong,
but sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
I'm sorry that your feelings were hurt. How's that I'm
sorry that you took what I said. I'm sorry. Are
you offended by the things that I said?

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
I tried that one time.

Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
Yeah, but it did put a lot of things in
perspective because I know Ja Cole and Mariah are like
that's the merits is like one and two with everything,
and I understand both their fan bases. They'll try to
make you out to be a hater when you I
love Ja Cole and I love Mariah, but I felt
like I felt like a hater when I was arguing
with the Mariah stands.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Well, so here here, here's what I'll give you.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
Right when you do that argument with Ja Cole, I'll
listen because you're informed on Ja Cole. You're not informed
enough I'm Maria to even be. You don't even know
me two organs. You don't know me me I was
at the emancipation. He don't know, but you don't know
me me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
No, what are her fans called? Mimi's no lambs? You
see what I'm saying. You really not down? Are they Greek?
Hold on? Hold on? They're called what the lambs? Lambs?
The name of Mariah Carris fan base lambs? Why is
it the lambs? Oh god, it was. It used to
be like a term of it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
No, it's like like little lamb is like a term
of endearment, like oh, you know, old people ship like
lamb all just all adult be a lamb like it's
like that, It's like.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
A ran carry.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Fans are called lambs because the term started as a
playful inside joke between her and her friend Trey Lorenz
with his singing ass, where they'd say, be a lamb
to one another. Okay like Carryan was in the term
as a term of endearment for her fans in the
early two thousands, and it's stuck because they embraced it,
leading to the creation of the term lambelly, lambley, lambley,

(01:37:31):
oh like lambley to be a silent lambamily lambley Okay
for her fanbase Okay, that's cool, Okay, I didn't know that.
You definitely told Mariah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
May have the worst name fan baseball time, be a lamb.
You don't like that? No, I think I like the
term be a lamb, but call me a lambley like
that's who lamb.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
I'd rather just be a stand Lambley is the call
Stanley group a group of people from my family.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
I'll get it, babyd Thank you. Mariah was doing anyway.
I love whatich you'll about to go to? What you're
about to go? Do me?

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
I'm going to the Brian Park Water Village. You're gonna
wear the Brian Park water Village in New York over
Brian Park and Winter Village. Yes, that's cute. You're gonna
do ice skating.

Speaker 5 (01:38:12):
No, no, I'm not gonna do ice Skating's kind a
fucking cold. I just want to go get like hot chocolate.
I mean like the the hot chocolate and the hot
apple cider, because you guys know, my man fast, so
I can't eat from six am to six pm.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
And you're about to You about to break fast with
a hot chocolate, not a hot chocolate, the little apple.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
You better get home as soon as you can, as
soon as you can, Lambley, it's gonna be on the lamp.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
It's gonna be lamb shit all over the skyah see,
Lamb ship. You gott to drink that apple side of
vinegar after twelve hour.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Fast vinegars to buy apples the same ship got sugar
in it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Hot apple cider is great, though, you do you like that? Yeah?
Hell ya? I haven't had I had apple?

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Hot apple cided? I had that one time when we
went apple picking.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
I wasn't like middle school, and it tastes like fucking
battery ash and I never tried it again.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
You asked because I was a kid.

Speaker 4 (01:39:09):
So we'll try cold applesider, which I love as well.
But warm applesider is incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
And you could get the kind with the little donut
on top of the apple cider donut. It's gonna be
so good. I'm still excited.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
That's the one. That's a good combo, baby did. That's
some cheese and wine.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
That's some white shit you just you just named baby.
I was not expecting to say a donut on top
of you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
They don't get white than that. I no, no, it's
a white it's y'all ship. That's your culture from the
Caucauses mountains. That's what y'all used to genocide when it
was cold.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Used to drink hot apple cider and with a donut
because it's minus twenty degrees.

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
Yeah, I don't think we was making donuts and the
clogging the mountains. Oh killing all right, well, baby, the
have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
Don't don't hurt yourself because we got to come back
in this week and work some more. Unfortunately, don't break
your leg. Don't go out there on the skate rink
and try to do a triple axle. Don't don't play yourself.
Please don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
I want to try that before I die. A trip back. Yeah,
you're gonna dies take your be fun. That's a great sweater.
By the way, thank you. Rory brought me this sweater.
He wanted everyone to know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
You know, white people can't give you a gift without like, yeah,
fortunate you to say thank you, and then we call
it Indian giving.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Yes, even whiter. Home of the Greatest. Shout out to Tucy.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
Tuosy is stopping his music career and going to Syracuse
to play football because that's his hometown.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
So shout out to Tuocy. Okay, twenty five year old
wrapping the Joor that's his name. I'm fucking his name,
but now Joor Tucy Granger commits to play football at Syracuse.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
All right, Shout out to Tucy. Ain't that at great uniform?
Follow your dreams man, so good. These are great pants.
Can you plug these? I'm serious? Shout out to Vanity.
Shout out to my gods and g West Coast.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
This is vanity, you know, only war shipping people that
are supporting those those are fire they really really like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
Shut out the Vanity man for the pants.

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
Shout out to Audi that gave me this shirt because
my oil change took three hours when it was supposed
to take one.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
They gave you a shirt. Yeah, they clean They checked
the oil with that shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
It was like I sat in the AUDI waiting room
for three hours when it's supposed to be one hour,
and there was like, here's a shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Sorry, oh my god, but I like to cut. It's
a good color, like that color. Yeah. I wasn't even mad,
like I was fuming. As you know. You've seen me
in a line, Yes, how do you think I was
at an AUDI line? I already know it's worse. But
then I was like, oh and it's American apparel. Was like, yoh,
look at the collapseod fit. Good luck.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
I like it all right, Well, baby, do have fun. Rory,
congrats on a new teeth. Eat away, chew chee till
you can no more. And we'll talk to y'all soon.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
We're talking about a Mark Mars first day of three
K in the next episode, by the.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Way, Okay, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed.
I'm that nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
He's just ginger and Rory has a new Hollywood smile.
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