Episode 429 | DebateCast Greatest Peaks - New Rory & MAL

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yo, Josh, can you do me a favorite? Can you
look up? Because somebody DM ME was like they thought
I was lying about my Serena Williams story at All
Star weekend? Oh when you got to share the same birthday? Yeah?
So can you do my favorite jobs? Can you look
up when first look up when the All Star Game
was two thousand and one? Exact date?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
That'd be such a strange lies.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, now look up when did the Williams Sister Simpson episode?
There smoke that bot in your d MS. People are
so still like, how who would make that up? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, first of all, let let's let's fact check.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Look up Mall's celebrity birthday and then Serena Williams celebrity birthday.
We never fact checked that.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, let's start. We never looked at that. Want, Yeah,
fact check Serena Williams birth. Yeah. How come Candice Owns
hasn't done a deep dive into this one?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah? Yeah, when was Serena Williams born? What's her birthday? Mallgate? Okay, oh,
you guys have the exact same birth like the year too.
That's what I said this exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I thought it was just the September twenty sixth, the
exact same birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, and very similar, you know, paths, childhoods.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
That was very I was my last you was serving
the Yeah, I was serving the different type of boy.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Eight bye.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. My
last day play. She was on the clay court. You
know how that shit go. She dominated the clay Oh
my god, all this mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's like a quadruplon on me.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
And Serena Williams are more like than we are different though,
like when you think about it, like we really think
about it, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm really thinking about it now, and I don't think out.
You know, I never thought about it before, but now
they think about it. I don't think you guys have
anything in common, oh man, except for being at the
All Star Game at the same.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Time, yes, and being born at the same day on
the same Do we know the times? No, that's scary.
I don't even want to do that. I wouldn't even
I wouldn't even attempt to find out, you know, the
time you were born? Should I ask my mom, like
every year she tells me to stop girl that girl alone.
I asked my mom every year, what time.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Was I born six fourteen am? For me six fourteen am? Yeah,
my sister.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Knows eleven fifty seven at night, he's.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Born eleven fifty seven at night. He was almost born.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
The next day, I was, I have Diana Ross's birthday,
I almost have Mario Carrie's.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
So it's like you the bridge between Diana and Mariah.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
We didn't even know. We didn't even know who was
sitting in here. Arena Dana, Yeah, Klay Aiken Claig. Oh no, sorry,
Lance Bass, I was confusing my gay singers Lance Bass
from the back of birthday. Yeah, no, Lance is older
than you. No, not the same year, but like May fourth. Yeah, okay, right,
and then I think it's like Chris Brown and Dame
Dash or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I was born at nine forty three am, according to
my sister. So is she older or you older? She's older.
She was born in non Fo. Yeah, I can tell.
You can tell she gives she gives a big sister.
You can tell she was born in Yeah, I could tell.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I could tell she gives forty like.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I can tell. This's crazy. How can you tell that
she has like a nurturing big sister energy?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Okay, yeah, that's and you have like young dumb younger
brother brothers.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, I got it for sure. That's what's up.
That's what I could tell.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Did she ever pull the big sister card on you
all the time all the time?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
What do you guys get going to?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm sorry, y'all, gotta put me somewhere else. Why would
pease look up who has his birthday? And it's Colonel
Sanders or Colonel Colonel Cardinals. Colonel Colonel has Peach's birthday?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
That makes sense, though, I know, but I got to
give you.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
It makes sense. Let me see you actually the same
day as me, like in year and everything. Does anyone
know who? Why are n lingo?

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Is?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Who's that young rich Nigga? I would assume is the
y irm.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Like all the acronyms. I can't. Was that a rapper? Oh? No?
He was born in ninety seven, So there's really nobody
that's nineteen ninety Maybe you're only nobody was the only
person born that day? Literally just me, it was it.
You were the only person born.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
That guy had the day off. We don't know how
you made it here.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Imagine being the only person born on a day the
year one thousand and eight, Henry, King of the Franks
was born in France.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Hey, yo, the King of King. I'm on this data.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
You could have kept that to yourself though. You could
have just read that and like skimmed over.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
King of the Franks is crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
King of the Franks is wild. So today I'm wearing
if anybody cares, I'm wearing a feny underwear, how is it?
And I'm trying to like figure out if I like
skims of fenty more.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, yeah, so I gotta I gotta do somensem some.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Sprints after we leave his trying like figure out which
britten skims. It's funny to me just in general. No,
but I mean, defency is not bad. It's not bad.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Now you gotta get like, you know, when you get
out of the shower, body still a little wet, you
gotta see which one is easier to pull on. Don't
you hate pulling on your draws when they like fighting
to get you?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Wait? Hold on, hold, I mean I dry off. Usually,
baby d want me to be kind of like gloss m. Yeah, yeah,
you want to be a morning dude. Put on my
underwearl you know, when you.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Rushing like and you like, damn, I'm still kind of
but you gotta put it on and they hard to
pull up.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It would definitely be the skims will be easier for sure. Really, Yeah,
the material is different on the skims than it is
on the fency. But we don't give women enough credit
for thongs. What do you mean that that's.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Like an everyday type of underwear for something like I
could never imagine just walking around all day with a weggie,
Like I'm this isn't my appreciation. Look at you guys
like heroes for that.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, because when my when one of my my box
of brief legs start the rising, it's the most uncomfortable
thing in the world. Like, yeah, it's like wait, women
actually like in between the.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Cheeks rise up rise where like it starts rolling up
like you got a ball hanging out.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Wait, no, no, no baby, it's not that hot.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
What time in my life?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, the the underwear I had was a little old
and started to get some wear and tear.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
But now now I have draws that will hold you.
Gotta get replaced them, you know, I got the loan
box laid down the here and some like literally till
I hear not all the way up here, baby did
that's not we never we never.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I don't know how low your balls?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Hang, I was just wondering how low, how low your balls?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's crazy, okay, real question between skims and fency.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
What's more of a ball? Support? That's just as important
as sprinting or getting out of the shower wet and
putting on clothes. Skims, I think, man, skims. I have
not done the fency, but Skims, I will say, is
very supportive. It's great underwear. Yes, they are in any situation.
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(06:52):
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also born on my birthday? Who dick Dale?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's a pretty gay birthday, Lance Bas King Franks Dickendale.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Lance Bass is not gay? Why are you putting that
on his jacket? That?

Speaker 6 (07:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
He's like an icon for the gay community, is he? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Lance Bash is GA And the liberal chimes in and says, no.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Lance is super gay. Hey, Lance basses gay was like
mediocre ga. Yes, Lance Ba I was what's the other
guy's name?

Speaker 2 (07:23):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, no, the other guys in peace there Aaron Carter, Nick
Carter Car No.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, what's the other what's the other guy's name? And
uh uh and in sync Joey. I learned so much
about Josh the fact.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
That he named off government name and he might have
did it in alphabetical order like this, which is nasty.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
He knew. I think it's Joey Joey Fatone's one.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
No, Joey Fatone is uh, greasy Italian from Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's what I'm saying. That he's not gay.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm sure he has some views about gays that say
public that's why the group broke. You know, he's a
true like benson Hurst Italian.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's what I thought it was. But Lance, you know, yes,
Lance's Lance's Uh, he's gay.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
He did open a frank stand.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Wasn't Joey Fatone doing the did he did he compete
in the Nathan's hot Dog contest? One?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
You well, he owns a hot dog cheam, so I
think maybe he was sponsoring. Well, no, because it was
he did it.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I feel like I feel like Joey did the Nathan's.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
A lot of guys look like Joey Platone on the
Nathan's where you were confused us. It's like one Asian
guy and then a bunch of Joey fon Okay, got it?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
That one's yes.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh, that's like really like clever without being.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
We're out here his last name, which Josh spelt out
for us, Joey. We say ja.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
All right, Josh ranked them. Now give us your top five. Yeah,
he said lands on base.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
So you don't hear him so much.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
He talks of the comedies on base.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
He's kind in the backgrounds. You don't really have him
that much. But that is funny though, because Josh is right,
j C is probably the best vocalist. Oh sure, But
I think that was always comp like yeah, common, I
always thought like and just had a star. I always
thought like j C was gonna be the biggest start though,
And when they all went solo, because j C had
that one record, what was that one? That one record
he had, It was a slower one. It was kind

(09:30):
of like a ballot. I think it was kind of
a slower one. I felt like that was gonna really
take j C to the to the next level. I
checked out after Dirty Pop. That was it. That was
it for me.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Once they had chains on. You didn't seek wasn't they
didn't announced it was going on tour?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
What?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Wasn't that like a holeing out justin timow or something?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Why wouldn't Justin Timblate do the intur he'd rather go
to Hawaii?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Like?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Wow, what do you know how much money they was
standing in?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Make on it?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I didn't sink tour like this in twenty six I
would pay for that ticket. I would definitely doub we
know you package. They would hold Josh, They would hold
jocks like this.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
They hold Josh like a thirty year sub yo. That
is crazy though, as a man, how do you lay
across and sink hands and just let them let them
hold you like this? Hey, extra fifteen hundred for that one?
Oh my good? If they're going to a Josh, I

(10:32):
will pay for your meat and greet ticket. That's fucked
up that Justin tim Blake doesn't want to tour with
in sync though?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Is that confirmal? I don't want to just push it on,
just like on his jacket.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, a computer right in front of you, baby? Do
want you right now?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Sweetheart?

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I mean I don't know, like, is everyone in shape
like I've seen Joey Fittone on in Practical Jokers. I
don't know if he's like in dancing shape, Like, I
don't know if the strings can hold him up.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Oh, they won't go on to it because their plans
wire put on hold and definitely due to Justin tim
Blake's oh recent diagnosis with lime disease and his ongoing
solo tour commitments. So it's not because he one that
gave that I was in Tall Grass Exkins. Yeah, Justin
Timblay has lime disease and he doesn't want to you know,
he doesn't want to do.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
But he can't play with the Lime though.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
No, but but he was canceling his own tour dates
like not before he so he was scheduled to go
on tour with them, but he was on his own
tour and he had to cancel dates because of a
lime disease and.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
He got too much going.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
On on in Long Island. He's like, I gotta make
my show officer. I mean, let me not joke though,
because like we saw with Childish Gambino and like a
lot of these artists aren't lying, they do have health complications. Yeah,
so I don't want to well get well sooner, justin
Tim Blake and hopefully we do get that tour.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
He probably got long disease at that DUI stop in
Long Island, in that tall graph.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Probably, I think you get long disease in the Hampton's.
I think for sure's the that's what you that's where
you get long disease in the Hamptons. But I do
want to new additions going on tour, new addition of InSync,
better tour. Come on, Bobby, if listen, I'm on right now.
If Bobby dedicate four months to just getting just working out,

(12:10):
just getting right, that that tour is gonna be insane.
I'd rather kind of see fat Bobby do the same choreography. Nah,
you got Bobby gotta be breath some type of shape
to get his soul when it's time to do all
of the solo records. But that and that New Audition
tour is gonna be crazy because they're going on with
boys to Men. I forgot who else was on that tour.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I gotta go for boys and man, you know, huh.
I gotta go for.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Boys to men, not new addition. I funck with New Audition.
But I just I told you I prefer But boys
to men more. I'm more of a ballet girl.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
But what month is it in New York. It's coming
up with Valentized God, oh god, no, we're not outside.
No oh, so the March fourteenth one makes sense, but
I know already have Valentine's. It's gonna be so fun
at Prudential. Credential is always a better show. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(13:09):
I mean that's too local, but.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's the better for the better crowd.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
The New Jersey The Prudential Center for people who aren't
from New Jersey, New York is in Newark, New Jersey,
which is one hell of a neighborhood and very very
festive neighbor Yeah, and the crowd is different. Like you
go to a show at the Barclays, Yeah, it's in Brooklyn.
I know what you guys hear about Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
It feels like Manhattan.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's a bunch of fucking teenage kids, right the Barclays.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Or you go to show all game in Barclays, it
feels like man Yeah, there's not much of a difference
to me. Like, you know, when they first announced that
they was building that arena, everybody was kind of mad and.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Because the gentrification. Yeah, yeah, you mean you mean the
locals that have lived there for years. I'm sure they
were upset that they were being moved out of there.
They got to go back, go back a few blocks,
just go down, go down in Atlanta, Go down Atlanta
left and just Dane Browns.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
We have some walk up to them. It's available for
all the don't worry about this. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
In Sync or Backstreet Boys.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
We did this before in Sync.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
In sanc I don't think nobody would pick bass.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, I'm going to say Backstree Boys might have sold
more records, though I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Let's see, but me personally, just taste my personal taste. Yeah,
they got it right within sync. I feel they worked
the kinks out of what Backstory Boys. Yeah, because even
like I don't even know that the leading guy, I
can see his face and Backstery Boys, but even their
leading guy wasn't even a household name. It was just
the Battery Boys.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah. The Backstree Boys had a more successful career overall
due to being the best selling boy band of all time,
but they and Sinc had a huge peak.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
They just the man. Backsty Boys sold one hundred and
thirty million records.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
It checks out hard copies. They printed that much.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Plastic and SINC sold over seventy Damn they sold they
did twice and then some fat pedophile got all the money.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Damn the battery boys did get off the line and
my sexual and then all his homeboys backed them up
and said, yeah, like the second well, that's one of
the sickest like moments in shoe.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
His crew is like, what, how y'all know how y'all
know that man? How you came to that supportive friends though, yeah,
you're right, ye, instead of the friends that you know
try to ship on you when you were around women.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
His crew is just agreeing with everything. You gotta hold
your man down with the lot. I don't worry about it.
Backshe boys will be two k any uh bok baby,
do you definitely have b two K posters?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I did actually had him hanging from the ceiling.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Look not like your fresh him and my dad had
did some himself, some type of jig where like he
had hooks in my ceiling and he punched holes in
the posters, the big word up magazine posters. He punched
holes at the top and then looped the string so
the poster like I had a bow a poster beat
in MOLTI pull of the B two K guys and

(16:01):
they were like hanging down so it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Was like.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
From the rafters almost bedroom.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yep. But maybe that's why because when we moved, you
didn't tell Bow while you had him hanging from your sel.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I would never do that.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Why because why why would I do that? I'm sure
he assumed that he would be right to assume that.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I would have had a poster in my room. It
came I'm glad you didn't tell him that. Baby. They
could have told Bow that she had him. It wasn't
just that.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
It wasn't just shad in a in a white wall
like I mean, there was a bunch of posters he
was just because you know, they came with the CD.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I would tell Britney Spears that I had him in
my locker.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well that's okay for actually, don't do that, why.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Britney Spears, I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
How would it come up in conversation.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I would just tell Britney Spears that I had a
post her my locker when I was in high school.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Kind of like when you told what you told Serena,
Like I just feel like they don't need to know that.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
You don't know Serena appreciated it. It was just bad timing. Uh,
because she was on the Simpsons. It's like life like
that's that's like being cemented in history on the show. Okay,
what other posters did you have on your wall? I
just had Jordan. I never did too many, like rap
posters Hallie. No, I didn't have Halle Berry on my wall.

(17:17):
I had I had a magazine, uh that I think
she was on the cover of, and that was like
just always like on my dresser, like I would just
look at that that magazine.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Next to it, next to the Losha I mean, come
on now, is not gonna believe this.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
But I had Mariah Carey on my wall when she
had the Jeene shorts on and she like cut the
top of them. I think it came with the Heartbreaker CD.
But I have Mariah on my wall for a long time.
I had a lot of the Slam magazine posters. I
had a fold out jay z rebox poster that said
I got my MBA from Marcie Projects.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Was that when you put the dot.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I also had a game remember the Hurricane Sneaker. Yes,
I had a game promotional Hurricane poster on my wall.
At one point I had a lot of nasty posters
of it.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
People. Do people still put posters on their wall kids?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
They be having grass walls now with Neon, Yeah, I
don't know. Like my son not hanging Kay Sanat on
his wall. We ain't doing that.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
What God should sell posters?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Kay should definitely sell posters.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
No, they don't have they have the big head, like
the big wall head. Fathead. Yeah, like those are crazy.
I wish I had that growing up, Like having a
life size Jordan on my wall growing up would have
been crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I think was it East what magazine used to sell?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
They weren't the fat as, but it was like the
cutout things when I was a kid of sports player,
like real size, like you could get uh Dante Culpepper
at like the same height that you could like.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Stick on your wall. That's not that wasn't a fat head.
I don't think they were called that yet.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Fat heads are like really big heads falls like fad
of its own.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
No, it's like it's like a cutout of your head.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
But it's bigger than your actual head. Like it's like really, Yeah,
these were just like real cutouts of athletes. I think
at the time, I can't remember, but yeah, I definitely.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Are we reminiscent. We hate being adults.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
No, it's just interesting to see how like kids in
high school, like how they kind of like show their fandom.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Now well, I mean to the point, like everything their
version of prom isn't like ours, and their rooms are
not like ours.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
They have like up to date tech shit, like real neons.
Even though I did have a light up green clock
that I won at the Jersey Shore that was neon
that I would only turn on for special occasions because
I didn't know neon things.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Could last that long that you thought the neon was
gonna wrong.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, I was like, I can't get this replaced. So
you know you had a va, I had a lot.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I was just you took out my mouth.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I want to win so badly. But my mom equated
that with being a pothead. I wasn't even smoking weed
at that time. Musta being gay, because that's what I
would if my son had a lava lamp. How is
lava lamp and gay?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
No lava lamps weren't gay back man? That was I
thought that was it was a pothead thing.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Well, I'm not surprised she thought that lot of lamps
were No, they were like cool, they weren't gay.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I had a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Your brother had a lava lamp and he was gay.
Here's an honest man, right there. I knew.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh, we're not suggesting that gay people didn't have lava laughs.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
No, it's gay to have a saying gay people don't
have lobby. I'm saying it's gay to have a lava lamp,
that's all.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
But what if you're like a hippie like hippies, Like
if that's what I think of I think of hippies
when I think of.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Hippies, are like they have fluid, They don't give a
fuck who they have sex with. They all I love him,
love Listen, man, you needed to eat a jerk. You
off the night. Come on, man, come on over round.
I didn't see that in the Woodstock. Doct know that's.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
The one they never show you. Then, they will never
show you that one. They've never showed you the gay
sex they had at Woodstock ninety eight degrees or Aaron Carter,
that's kind of tough.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's very tough.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Out of my wheelhouse, I can so Aaron.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Carter had some joints. Remember when he beats you one
on one. That was a true story. That video is
a doc.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I don't know. I might go ninety eight degrees. Nikolas
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this question of greatest peak of all time. We was
in the studio talking about artists and comparent careers and
would you rather have longevity or have like a peak
and kind of like you know, just fade out after
your peak. So some interesting names up here, very successful artists,
very successful careers, but we're talking about the greatest peak peak. Yes,

(23:53):
and let's look up the definition of peak.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Please look up the definition of peak, Rory and also
where before we start is a peak is that like
a year what do we call it can be a.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Couple of years. It could be two or three years
your peak. He could be like two or three, Like.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Two years, I feel like like two years. I feel
like once you hit three, that's kind of like three
as a rap career, three years a legend. Now, yeah,
like put you in the rock and roll Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
If you have three great years like in a row,
like what like you submitted somewhere in history like he
was incredible, he or she was incredible.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
All right, So dictionary dot com doesn't have a timeframe,
but reach your highest point, either as a value or
a specific time. Yeah, so all right we can speculate
with the years. But what we wrote down off Mike,
just off the top of our heads, Nelly, fifty, Eminem, Drake,
and Wayne as far as who had the bigger peak,

(24:48):
Nellie went diamond with physical copies. Yes, Now, did fifty,
m Drake and Wayne have longer runs than Nelly?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yes? Sure, Well fifty and Nelly were close our music runs.
But I'm kind of I'm with Nelly, fifty and Eminem
as my debate in my head out the gate of
greatest peak.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yes, because I think Em from Marshall Mathers eminem Show
eight Mile Time. I think EM was at the hot Like,
why you don't got Jay on this list? What would
you even consider Jay's peak? Because I hate that conversation
when people say Jay was never the number one rapper
of any year and I'm like, Okay, so he's had

(25:31):
a dominant twenty years.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
What did it mean by that when he was number
never the number one?

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Like I guess never on my album sales? Probably stats,
I don't know, but I've seen that argument and I
get it. Yeah, there's years where but no matter what,
if you're number two for twenty years, like, it's a
pretty good fucking career. Great career, Nelly, though I don't know.
It kind of goes back and forth between fifty and

(26:00):
dominating the world at that time. Could you escape g
unit from two thousand and four to two thousand and seven?
You had Kanye in there, you had Million there, you
had m Yet like there was a lot of shit
going on, But could you escape anything Junior? Like anything
fifty did in those years went platinum?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Like I love Yo, but if you put Yao on
another system, I don't know if he's immediately going gold
first week, right, you put out give Richard I try
and then beg for Mercy right after in the same year,
then wait and give Game seven hits, then put out
Buck that goes platinum. Banks goes platinum, YAlO goes gold.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I don't really like.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
I still equate that to fifty cent in some degree,
But then you can also give m that credit because
M I feel like, was at his peak and then
gave us fifty cent.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, so I mean Jay said only dudes moving units
in pimp Juice in US. So I don't know, man, y'all,
y'all gotta go back and look at the numbers that
Jay was doing first week back then, man, where they
he was doing a million?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Is there is there a better.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Back to back country grammar to Nellyville versus get Rich
to Massacre?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
That would I think that would define it? In my opinion?
Who sold more there?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Do you guys want to hear what Chad Gpt said?
Are we wait? Are we adding j Z into this?
Are we just doing I don't think.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I also, like not even really want to add Drake
into this, because yes, Drake has had a peak per se,
but he's kind of just been dominating for fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, I don't know if they're peak, per Se.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I wouldn't even be able to point out Drake's peak.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I don't really peak. You have to fall off to
have a peak, exactly. Yeah, you could also, because that's
that's very Yeah, that's where I can't really put like
Drake and Jay in this people.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, you have to have a fall off to have
a peak, people could say, or people would say it's
been said before about as far as like the quality.
They can say that Drake has reached a peak quality wise, right, sure,
but that's.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Will to say that.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
The people say that about plenty of artists, right, So
they've said that that his best album was years years
before whatever. But numbers wise, no, because I think he
continues to sell more and more.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
So like even what I think is his best music
sold less than what I think is his worst music. Yeah,
So that's where I don't know. I kind of want
to leave Drake out of this conversation per se, because
it's tough Jay as well. But then also in the
same point, like either way there is a peak for
Drake and Hoe, we would just have to find it.

(28:40):
Based off album sales, I guess, but neither of them
have had a like fall off the way brother, We've
kind of like which is fucked up to say, because
I think Nelly, fifty and M.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
And Wayne are all legends in their own right. But
you can clearly see a fall off.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
But now we're moving the goalpost because Eminem still out
sells everybody every time he comes out, even if we
don't like the albums.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Has em ever fallen off Eminem?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yes, yes, we talk musically subjective, that's subjectively. We already
know how I even feel about that. But what did
what did Kamakazi sell? And fucking probably when Diamond? Every
time em goes and releases a project, it's yeah, if
if selling four and fifty k is in one week

(29:26):
is falling off, I don't know what the fuck falling
off is now fifty I don't think he fell off.
He just chose to go different directions with his career
and didn't focus on music.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
But there was clearly a musical fall off.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
When you get to the animal ambition or what before
I self destruct years Curtis, I think was the beginning
of not a fall but his focus of music sat
Nelly after he did it was a sweet and salty,
sweet suit.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
What's his DOUBLET suit? Sweatsuit?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Sweet and great.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I remember the name of the jell I could see
the album cover.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Sweetened. So if I was, it's my choice. Yes, that's
a fact. It is a fact. So yeah, there was
a fall off there.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So that's where I'm more focused on Nelly and fifty cent,
and I think fifty just because he dominated everything else,
had the highest peak that I've seen in rap.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Wayne did musically.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I mean, you couldn't escape Wayne from shit oh seven
to twenty eleven? Could you? Could you escape Wayne? But
again that was that was four years and that was
of dominance. Though fifteen years ago that's dominant. But what
the year, It doesn't matter what you mean. If you

(30:49):
say it was fifteen years ago, that doesn't like, it
doesn't matter, No, No, that's still that was. If we're
saying just peak, then yeah, that was that was his peak.
But when you think about it, it's like, damn, that
was fifteen years ago that we're talking about this peak
that arguably one of the greatest rappers had, Like just
think about that fifteen years ago, that one of the
greatest rappers had their peak. You know how many like

(31:12):
new kids are walking around. That was like four five
when Wayne had his peak, Like.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I'm probably undertood probably oh five to twenty eleven, twenty twelve,
Wayne dominated oh seven. I think we'll probably his biggest
year when he did all those features and a million.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Well, so then let's talk about that's a peak. So Chad,
you bet the same. Wayne's peak is two thousand and
seven and two thousand and nine.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Okay, I'll go with that, because, off the top of
my head of seven, if I remember correctly, was like
the biggest Wayne year.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
So we'll go Wayne oh seven.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Oh seven, seven oh nine, fifty three to five. Okay,
eminem two thousand, two thousand and four, Okay, Drake twenty
fifteen and present.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Wait and then saying president is crazy also twenty fifteen.
Now they gotta go. They got yeah he was, Drake
was fucking shit up in twenty eleven, two thousand.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well, no, it's not about him fucking shit up. We're
talking about him being as high as he is now
in continuing that, so.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Reaching his height, Yeah, reaching out tay Drake out of
this man twenty fifteen a present like I'm not yet.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
We can't anyone.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
And Nelly was two thousand to two thousand and three
as well well, two thousand to two thousand and three.
So what Chad GBT says because I asked him up,
you got to ask them a whole bunch of.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Chat GBT from, like what city is he from? Because Israel?
What was he listening to?

Speaker 4 (32:32):
They said, The greatest peak, if you just want to do,
greatest peak of career wise is fifty cent. He wins
because give Richard I try and sold eight hundred and
seventy two k first week and went nine times platinum,
one of the biggest debuts ever. He had a number
one album man number one single simultaneously for weeks, and
he also dominated fashion, mixtapes, radio, street.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Culture, fashion listen.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I'm not saying that everyone wanted to dress like fifty
the way they maybe wanted to dress like Kanye, but
the way he dominated with Reebok and Juni clothing, Let's
not act like that was not something that should be
on the statue.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
And everybody and they show even when he did his
little comeback show in New York, niggas was showing up
dressed like fifty back in the days.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
But that was niggas that just came home. So you
can't be mad at them.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
You don't think the Juni wife beater is an iconic
piece of fashion that should be put in.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
The iconic for the wrong reasons though, because you can
be iconic for the wrong reasons, but you still iconic.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
What oh for sure?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
But sure, but he liked them thin the thin strap
of tank tops you liked. I didn't. I didn't have
the body for it. You know, he man saying he
adin't have the body. I definitely had the Junet rebox.
I had a bunch of Junate like T shirts. I
had a Junie button up, but I never had that life.
It was an interesting time because you did that because

(33:50):
you're from Queens.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
But there was other niggas uptown.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
It was not We was not wearing Jeunet uptown. Okay here,
you're probably right. Was not niggas was wearing RockA ware,
so were we. Niggas was wearing and you know, uh
uh yeah when they got really colored, some of the
Sean Sean John even South Pole.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
I mean, you never let me get that some people
was wearing south for I was we wasn't wearing South Poles,
but he was wearing what was the other coaches though
North faces.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah. Still maybe maybe a first down. Maybe maybe some
dudes went first down. I never was really jacking the
first down all r. Yeah, Uptown probably dresses better, but
you guys are wearing the Elmo shirt with the Elmo
hat and the Cookie Monster shirt and the Cookie Moster hat.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
So sometimes I don't want to hear from Uptown. You
guys have had some hats Queen Nobody that was that
was the Bronx and the northern part of Harlem.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yo. But don't do that because queens y'all was wearing them.
I'm not saying. I'm not saying letters on it like
that's not the Yankees fan. I don't know what that is. Like, y'all,
y'all love you pull it up.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Queen's County is the most diverse county in the United States.
We're a melting pot and with representation were of every culture,
we're inclusive.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, but I mean those those those hats with the
Chinese letters were so nasty, those fitteds. I thought they
were those. I never did those, but this was coming
off when people were getting Chinese tattoos. Didn't even know
what they meant. Yeah, that was crazy. That was a
weird time that the city was in. I don't know
what was going on.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
All I know.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
And the third half in the Bronx, everybody had an
Elmo shirt with an Almo fitted.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's why I never understood the whole Asian hate thing.
We love Asians in New York. Look at the hats
we was wearing. That one time we hated agents since
when that was never a thing racist? Have a black
best friend on many Yeah, I voted for a.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I want to get back to the well.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
He was debating who dressed better between Queens and Uptown.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
That was part of the debate.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
But yeah, so back of the Uptown takes that kick.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
But I am a huge advocate of defending the Borough
of Queens now because everyone got.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Back with the leather do rag though, but he brought
it back. He set y'all back. Nas fly NOx can dress.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
He's one of the better dressed, for sure, But when
Nas put that leather dew rag on, y'all was down thirty.
I'm not gonna lie the leather.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
But the Bronx brought the leather fitteds like that was
y'all terrible. Brooklyn tried to like adopt it, but that
was definitely in Bronx thing. I don't know over the years, Nah.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Don't do that, don't do that. They'll put that, they'll
do that. It wasn't doing that.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
But look what Queens has done now with Amy Kiff,
Like all the dope ship now comes from Queens' designers.
So yeah, we had we had a rough time, but
I still think that should be on fifty stat sheet
because no.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Clothes around the world.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
People in the Bronx were probably not jacking the Juni
and shiit, but everyone else in the rest.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Of the fifty wasn't mad when he saw them numbers
in the Midwest come out like Middle America. Yeah, that's
all they was wearing.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, all they was said.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Fifties peak is widely considered the most powerful and short
term dominant in rap, not the longest, but the highest spike.
Eminem would be considered the biggest global impact peak. Like
if you talk about global he's number He's easily number one,
widest reaching. They said fifties was more intense, but EM's
was more massive and broad.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, if we're going off what our definition of peak
is I do think fifty in the scope of everything,
had the highest peak in tip hop. Well, I mean
that's that's his artists, so it makes sense the numbers
check out.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
You know what the biggest peak Paul Rosenberg, Jimmy Ivan
that's had the biggest peak, and Doctor Drift there's another name.
Listen Nelly music wise, though, I mean, I don't know
if you could really fuck with the country grammar.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's in nelly Ville days.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yeah, they're saying, but I'm looking at the numbers. Eminem
in fifty smoke when it comes to peak, they smoke.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Now Nelly, when Nelly? When that? When that down down baby?

Speaker 3 (37:49):
When that video hit, I knew that was a hit
because I couldn't like when not For the first day
I saw that video, I remember looking at them, I
was like, who is this?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Like, who is this? He's not from New York, He's
not for LA because at that he's not from Atlanta.
So at that time, and that's where all the best,
you know, rappers were from, it was like this guy
from Saint Louis. Ask his tattoos.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
This is what they this is how they dressed in
Saint Louis, is how they talk. This is how that
was our introduction to essentially the streets of Saint Louis.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Like okay, it was, it was Nelly like okay. And
then when the album came out and you got into
some of the album cuts and you started hearing the
shit that Nelly was rapping about Nellie's Nelly's career that
old two thousand and two thousand and three, Nelly was
a pop star. Like with out of Doubt, like I'm
talking about trl MTV VMA's any award show, Nelly was

(38:38):
dead whether he was presenting, performing, or accepting an award
like Nellie's. That three years of two thousand and two
thousand and three, With out of Doubt, Nelly had one
of the greatest rap peaks of all time.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, vocal or g unit, bro. I never saw a
nigga wear in vocal.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
I don't even know what vocal is.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
You know, remember vocal? Remember you remember uh it? Never
remember apple bottoms?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yes, so vocal was the male line to the Apple bottoms.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Ah who was in charge of apple bottoms again? T Pain, Yes, no,
shut up?

Speaker 2 (39:14):
In charge of Apple bottom is crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
That's why I would listening to him. Who who created.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
It was I was young.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
You gotta understand. I was like fucking seven when all
this ship was happening, So I don't remember that.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Apple Bottoms was Nellie's clothing.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Long, I will say though, coming off to Mull's point
of country Grammar being what it was, the follow up
having Hot in Here, Pimp Juice, air Force Ones, Dilemma,
Work It Rocked, the remix and number one is an
insane follow up to the country Grammar album like.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
That could be debated against Massacre. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Like every song in this fucking these are the singles
in order, Hot in Here, Dilemma, air Force Ones, Work At,
Pimp Juice FI singles.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Damn, that's fucking crazy. I wan didn't Nelly get any
like check from Nike or for the Air Force. Yeah,
but he had a shoe he had he had he
had a Barkley. Okay, hell up the picture of the
Nelly Barkley's how did you you guys feel? Uptown? For
Nelly kind of being the face of uptowns that was

(40:23):
always weird for Nelly came out and he was one
hundred uptowns deep already like in the closet. Remember when
they were like sixty seventy bucks, Max Charles Barkley Nelly.
Those was crazy. I remember that was hard when those drop. Yeah,
Nelly fucked the city up with those. Fuck the city.
He fucked the city up with those.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
The city was one way.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
The next day Nelly fucked the city up with those
for sure. Uh the air dirties.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
All right?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
So, I mean this is your favorite rapper, like Murphy
Lee or some ship you.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
At top of his Spotify Nelly, Nelly go my home,
Nellie's your home because he represented the middle of America.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Right there you go.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
But I mean around our age, Nelly was like that guy.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
No, listen, bro Nelly.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Nelly's run incredible because my friend Brian really used to
wear a band aid on his face when we were twelve.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
That was gay. Now, there was a video of gen
zers being asked if they knew who this person was
or somebody was holding a picture of Nelly and nobody.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I don't know, Ellie Choppy last time, Nellie, what this is?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
This is insane. These are college students, right, I'm assuming and.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
In the c liberty.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I can't. I don't know who that is and name
the celebrity you want them to do?

Speaker 6 (41:40):
He's with a backward jeans. I don't know who that is.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
And name the celebrity's bread he's probably not affiliated.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
It's not bow Wow even though it looks like him.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
And celebrity looks like whoever it is? And name of
celeberty almost looks like no, that's not fifty And in
the celebrity Tupac, what name the celebrity I've never seen
that first?

Speaker 1 (42:02):
And in the.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Celebrity fifth fifty cent and name the celebrity.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I'm a swifty and a K pop if it's not
Sabrina Olivia Taylor, little pub I don't know.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
And name of celebrity that's a big dog celebrity.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I don't even want to try.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
And in the celebrity, I've seen him before? What's his
famous song?

Speaker 2 (42:15):
No, listen to the name.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
Not the girl but the guy?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Who is that guy? Jay Z? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Bro the celebrity I don't know.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
And in the celebrity, that's Keith slip all right?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Reason what is great? Way older than that old? So
why do you know Keith sweat?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
But not no doubt, no crazy and.

Speaker 6 (42:40):
Celebrity isn't it right?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
But is this one of those things where it's like
the fake content. No, no, this is real.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I think it's real. But this is why those kids
are probably like eighteen nineteen.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
That's why I'd be so bad at this like on
the street content, because if somebody came with the idea,
let's show people Nelly, I'd be like, why are we
wasting our time?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Everyone's going to guess that that is crazy that people
can see a picture of Nelly like young kids eighteen,
let's say, seventeen, nineteen, twenty years old and don't know
who he is.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Like, dude, I'm trying to like, but see again the
biggest artist for three years when they were like two
years old.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Like yeah, but you can't say that, baby, because I
knew if you showed me a picture of Marvin Gay
when I was nineteen, I would know.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Marvin Gay is one of the biggest artists of all time.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Nellie is one of the biggest rappers of all time.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
In top What what do you mean if you're doing
biggest rappers of all time in top.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
What I mean? Definitely from his time in two thousand
and three.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
That's from his time. Are you saying Marvin Gay is
one of the biggest artists of all time.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
We all Showlly Nelly. So he has a diamond rap album, yes,
physical copies, yes, Okay, one of the biggest rap artists
of all time.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
I understand that if you go by numbers, Fetti Wop
would be one of the biggest rap artists of all
And there speaks and there's one of the people. There's
people who would not recognize him because the longevity was
not there when it came to the career long but
Nelli is more important when you want the kids to
know who you is.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
But Nelly is still currently like active, He's still like
on social media, he's still like on shows. He's still
he didn't just have a peeking and disappeared forever.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
And don't he disappeared for a long time.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Along say Nelly is back now and back doing shit,
and we're seeing him because he got a shot. He
started dating a shanty that became a thing. As shanty
got pregnant, you got a show. Nelly disappeared for years
on years on years where nobody was talking about him.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
As much as I want to defend the youth that's
still like, I feel like artists that are thirty years
prior to my existence, I would know who the fuck
they are.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
There were also less artists back then.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
These kids are exposed to so much more music than
we ever were, so much more music.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
And on top of that, is it easier for this
arab because in the two thousands, there wasn't thousands of
artists where there is now.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
The big artists, the ones who we knew about we
either learned through our parents or because they were on
all types of commercials and this and that, and the
albums were hanging up in the target windows and we
were going and physically shopping. The celebrity was so much
more different. Now there's hundreds fucking of them. And if
you go into your phone, if somebody's not in your algorithm,

(45:16):
which we say all the time, if this ain't in
my algorithm, I didn't even know they dropped something. I
didn't even know that happened because it's not in your algorithm.
Are you seeing what I'm saying? These kids have been
growing up in the digital age, being accustomed to digital
fucking artists like Nelly. That was just I can understand
why somebody wouldn't know who Nelly was. I your parents
thing like maybe it starts in the home. You're right,

(45:41):
it starts in the home. Rory, You're absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
This is why, this is why the Democrats are ruining
the nuclear family. So knowing didn't identifying Nelly the parents, No,
But that really why I know a lot of the
artists before my time is because my parents listen to
them like I wouldn't if I didn't grow up in
the household I grew up. I don't know if i'd
be able spot Phil Collins out the gate. Yeah, but
I can because he was in my house.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
And let's end.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
So now they're like eighteen nineteen, right, which means that
their parents are probably between your age and your age.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
How often do y'all.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Play Nelly every night before I go to bed?

Speaker 4 (46:19):
See what I'm saying, So like, let's and given Nelly
all his all his ship, but let's be fucking for real.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
How often are y'all?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I got amara sports set that came with the basketball hoop,
the soccer thing and a baseball bat, and I played
Nelly batter up when she picked up the ball, okay,
and that was I was like good a week ago.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
That's so it's a good fall.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
But that's not something that you're playing back to back
to back to back. That's not what you're not.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I'm not in the crib just banging Nelly's hits back
to back to back, like I'm fuck with Nelly. But
if you came to my crib and you heard Nelly begging,
you'd be like, yo, you're going you all right? What
you what you're doing?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Because it's my head.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
You better relax over that's my ship, Like, you better relax,
that's my That's something I actually would play.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
But that's that's not something that you're gonna go to
to put your kids onto.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I'm playing Dilemma for Amara when she's like of age.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
But when I'm talking about what you listen to regularly,
it's not about playing something for Omar.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
It's about what you.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Play regularly in your crib. Lamar are gonna sing the
fuck out of emotional fucking Oranges. She gonna know all
that ship, but she's not gonna know no fucking Nelly
until you put her on physically, Go and put her
on to Nelly.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
You're gonna have to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Sometimes you gotta let the kids do their own digging
and find the greats. They have to find the legends themselves. Kids, anymore. Yeah,
like I had to. I dug through the crates and
saw that Off the Wall album and just was like,
who is this? Yeah? You had to? Yeah I discovered
Michael on my own. Yeah I didn't.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
My mom wasn't just playing the Michael You was a
kid like you discovered the Jumunji game. Yeah, fur the
c did you have to find.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
All time at his peak?

Speaker 2 (47:59):
When you were like it was the second album, it
was the second album to create, I was like, y'all
want to hear his play this one? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Now that that didn't surprise me at all. It made
me feel old as fuck, but it didn't surprise me
at all.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I guess. I mean, do you think they'd be able
to recognize fifty?

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Yes, but that is because of who fifty is today.
Are you see what I'm saying? Fifty just stopped being
fifty and just disappear and caught some cases. What a
way it'd be different? But fifty is still trolling niggas
on the Shade Room to this day.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
They think he's the IG influencer.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, exactly, gros shit, I mean, m just.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Because he's white and they probably know him. I mean,
all the rappers look like Wayne. Now, so that could
be that could really like cross their wires.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
They know Lil Wayne, But.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
That's my thing. Wayne came out before Nelly. How do
you know Lil Wayne and not Nelly?

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Because Wayne, well, Wayne's Wayne had a longer run than Nelly,
a longer run. He has more kids, He has the
famous baby mamas he had.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Wayne had a lot that would keep.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Him from He has a famous fiance. He just got her,
had her for years, broke up and.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Got back okay, broke up and got back together.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
You didn't grow up knowing that that was Laura London's
baby father, that that was Nivia's baby.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
You didn't grow up knowing those things.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
That his daughter, Lil Wayne's daughter became so culturally relevant
with the fucking kids. I guarantee all them kids know
her because she used to go viral all the time.
So then you have that his baby mother is on
a fucking on a TV show, a couple of reality
TV shows that they grew up watching, Like it's There's
multiple things that go into that. Also, just the longer career,
more kids, more culturally relevant.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
He's on here.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
They said that Wayne Chagibt said Wayne had the biggest
cultural peak, like he ran the culture. He had the
biggest peak when it came culturally. Not numbers, but culturally,
And that makes sense. Not mad at that, y'all, y'all.
I love y'all sticking up Finelli, though I fucked with
Nellie and y'all should stick up with him.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
But I've stick up for him. But I'm not surprised
them kids don't know him.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I'm very surprised just knowing a picture of Nelly and
you don't know who that is. That's that I thought
it was fake. But you can see in that reaction
they genuinely did not know who they were looking at.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
But you know what, I wouldn't be surprised if they
know a song or know the name, but not recognize
the face.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
He was singing along, And then that may yeah it
was not knowing a song.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Yeah, knowing the song and knowing the artist, Like if
they say Nelly, oh, I know Nelly, they know who
he is, but to recognize his face, especially when he
was so much younger, I can understand why they thought
he was bow Wow.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
They don't fucking know.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Thinking Nelly is bow Wow. Yeah, you know Chris Cross,
but not Nelly when somebody Keith Sweat, Keith Sweat, but.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
They obviously don't know Keith Sweat because they could they
thought Nelly was him, So they don't know Keith Sweat.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
They know the name.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
But if you know the name and then you think
that he looks like Keith Sweat, like you think you're
looking at which means in your mind you kind of
have an idea of what Keith Sweat looks like like.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
To even say, Keith nothing like Nelly.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
We know that. So that's my thing. It's like, how
can you in your mind these young kids even say
Keith Sweat, who was a star in the eighties and
early nineties when they weren't even born. You go to
Keith Sweat and you're looking at Nelly. So my mom
listened to I think I remember that guy. That's like
insane that that but just but just think about that

(51:14):
that they would look at Nelly.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
And say, Grandmama was probably listening to Keith Sweat.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
That's yeah, yeah, because they know they're age twenty three.
But I was listening to Keith Sweat. He wasn't listening
to Keys. I mean not when like at his peak,
but like we listened to Keith Sweat in high school
for sure. Oh yeah, because it's timeless music.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
But it's not like the timeless music didn't stop at
my generation. I feel like we were the last generation
to listen to the timeless music before our time. I
don't think these kids listened to the timeless music from
my era. What would you consay we listened to all
the timeless music from Mall's era?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
What do you think? What would you consider timeless music
from your era?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I mean, we just went through the two thousands Rolling
Stone lists, which I think that that top ten was
pretty spot on. In all ten of those albums are
time just so we begin to revisit that. Of course,
there's an exception to the rule. There are kids that
still absolutely love music. I'm speaking in general, like the
masses of kids. I just don't think, because I think

(52:17):
we we all retain music the same way, whether it
was from tapes to CDs. This era, they don't even
know what that's like, so I don't think they even
have to go research. I think they just listen to
whatever is put in their algorithm.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Out the gate.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
You can go to number one, Josh, you to show
us ninety nine I'm sorry not Rolling Stone. It was
complex to put out the top whatever albums of the
twenty first century.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
My Beautiful Darks was a fantasy.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Get Richard, I Try and Blueprint, Anti Marshall Mathers, LP,
Damn Take Care, Blonde, Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
House of Balloons. Those are ten timeless albums that.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I don't know if these kids are listening the way
I went back to Mal's era and Maul went back
to his older brother's era, Like, I just don't think
kids do that.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I think my generation was the last generation to do
that as a whole.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
What makes those albums timeless? Because it hasn't even been
enough time to say that those albums are timeless, which.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
The ones he just named. Blonde Blonde is a timeless album.
It's one of the greatest written albums. You can play
that any year. It's not gonna sound dated. The concept,
the lyrics are not going.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
To I'm not arguing about Blonde. I'm not gonna name
twenty five years old.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna name which ones I'm
referring to on an album I mean on that list,
because I'm not fighting on a fucking stand basis. But
some of those albums are not timeless. They may feel
timeless to us, in my opinion, they may feel timeless
to us because of how much we love them, because
they're mean. They're all amazing fucking album We.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Just spoke about that. I told you, I don't think
my Beautiful Dog Twitch the Fantasy is better than Graduation.
To me, I don't think it's a better album. I
don't think it's more Thomass than Graduation at all. I
don't it's a great album, but me personally, I go
to graduation way before. How many years do you need
for it to be timeless?

Speaker 4 (54:13):
I would go, I think twenty five is good. I
think twenty is twenty. I think twenty is good.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah, albums thimselves good. Twenty five is the latest Thomas.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Then get Richard.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
I try and was three, Blueprint was two thousand and one.
Marshll moders up he was two thousand. Like, I think
it's safe to say that those are timeless albums for sure.
Like even when I started listening to Illmatic Thomless album,
it probably wasn't that old, Like I don't know, twelve thirteen,

(54:45):
I probably like really got into Elmatic that came out
in ninety four, I think everyone was pretty okay with
saying Elmatic was timeless at that time.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I'm sure so.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
And because hip hop is the youngest genre, I think
we have a different scale of timeless as far as
albums go.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Like now, if you think they showed those kids a
picture of Frank Ocean, they would know who he was,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I don't think so, that's crazy. But even Frank like
he never really showed his face. They're not even on
his faces, are barely on his album covers.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Like he's That's okay. So to my point, Nelly being
who he is face being as recognized as it is
with Sultan and not to them. But in the picture
they showed was the iconic band they like, that was
a thing. He inspired a whole look. So for them
not to know Frank Ocean, who is relevant? It was
it was closer to their age than Nelly is. And

(55:38):
they don't know who Nelly is? What the fuck do
these kids know?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
They know what's going on right now?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Do you think they know Usher?

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (55:46):
But that's because of what Usher is doing now? Was
that because of the now before the Super Bowls? The cherries,
all of that I'm dead.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
I'm not laughing laughing at the fact that that's that's true. Yeah,
being like, oh, that's cher Man's cherry Man. Cherry Man
Freddy is his name. He'd be on skates and shit, right, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3 (57:13):
I mean we were talking about the the Nelly Country grammar,
Nellyville back to back albums. Who do you think has
the best three album run of all time? Two is
too easy? And by three album I mean first album
to third album. Can't cherry pick.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
He's talking about rappers only.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
We can start a rapp but we can we could
move on.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
I mean if we go outside of rap, then we're
looking at Michael Jackson, Off the Wall, Bad Thriller, And
then I think the conversations over ushould got something to
say to my way Confessions eighty seven oh one, to
who the best three consecutive album run? Who he got
something to say to to the conversation of best three

(57:53):
album runs? It went my Way eighty seven oh one Confessions? Right, Yeah,
I love Usher.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
That's a crazy run.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
That's a he ain't the three that that he just
named from that Michael that Jackson Listen.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
No, I was like, okay, if we maybe let me
let me explain something to you. First of all, with Michael,
I discovered Michael Jackson, right, I don't take you who
are you talking to I'm just saying three album runs.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Nelly is in the conversation. I mean, not Nelly. Usher's
in the conversation.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
They're saying best three album Run by the Numbers, Eminem.
I'm not Jackie ma Rshall Mathers e P l P,
The Eminem Show and Encore by the Numbers.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
That is incredible, though, But if we're something his first
album was Slim Shady OLP even Slim Shady Op Marshall
Mathers LP. Oh you said from the first album to
the third year was my way Usher's first album?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
That I mean that I remember, unless it was Baby D.
I don't know first album.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
What you're saying.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
I don't know if I was only comparing him to
Michael Jackson, because I'm never paring nobody, Okay, So that's
what I'm saying, Like you saying, I don't know. I
agree with you on that if it's against anybody else.
But I thought we were talking about you.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
See how crazy this is because I remember being in
La right and going to get breakfast and going into
this restaurant and Usher was in there eating breakfast too,
and nobody knew who he was.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
What year was this? Was this the year you discovered Michael?

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Two years ago he had his Vegas residency and I'm.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Sitting there Usher was sitting by himself eating pancakes and
nobody noticed.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yes, I'm sure people noticed, left him alone.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
No I'm no, no they did not.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Was this at Malibu's Soho House or something like.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
He would be recognized there, but no, but people leave
him alone there like they did not. I'm talking about
people walking in, sat down, nobody I didn't even look
at him, And I'm like, yo, Usher is sitting right
there eating breakfast by hisself and people are just walking in,
sitting down and nobody's even looking at like, nobody even
like gave him the salute, like I said, with something
because he left through the back. I was sitting by

(59:50):
in the back and he walked past me and I
just gave him like a salute, like I didn't know
say much to him, but like the fact that Usher
is who he is and he was sitting in a
fucking restaurant in California, in LA having breakfast and nobody
in the restaurant even like looked at him and acknowledged him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Was insane to me. This is two years ago I'm
talking about. He was had his Vegas residency already, So
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
And it wasn't young kids in the restaurant. It was
you know, people my age, maybe a little younger.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Like what color were there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
It was Asians, white, black, like, it was all type
of people in there. Nobody even I and I purposely
looked at that to see if anybody was gonna fan
out and be like, because you would have a right
to fan out if you want into a restaurant. Usher
sitting there myself eating he like, what the fuck Like,
It's one of the greatest r and b artists of
all time. Nobody even looked at him.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
If I see Usher in the restaurant, I'm gonna pretend
Usher right there too. Bob always felt like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
That way you had bowl hanging from your ceiling and
shot an episode with him and said nothing to him.
You may have said hello and that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
I don't I want them to feel I can only
imagine how hard it is to live your life being
a f famous. I don't want to be another stressor
add on to what live your fucking life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I'm not going to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I'm not saying nobody should have ran up to him
and asks for pictures while he was eating pancakes. No,
but nobody even said hello.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
I mean, I don't we joke about me and my fandom,
But like in real life, off the mic, I would
leave Usher alone. Of course I'd be like, oh shit,
that's Usher, but I would never say, yeah, I didn't
bother him. I said no, no, no, peace to him
when he was leaving. I think I think most people
ironically are like that, at least in major cities.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Like you saying nobody recognized him, I'm sure that somebody
recognized him. I think people just left him alone, which
is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Like in New York, that's pretty common. Like Chris walks
down Bleaker Street, Nobody's gonna bother him except for us
when we're shooting a promo. Yeah, but at least we
had a purpose. We were working, but we looked nuts
doing it. Even people were looking at us like why
are you filming them?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Like, leave them alone? It's Chris, leave them alone. He's here,
every day, walks every day.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Well, going back to the biggest three album run by
the numbers, so they said Eminem has the first one.
They said the runner up would be Drake with care.
Nothing was the same in views. As far as sales, say,
he has huge streaming numbers, but nowhere near M's physical
sales still the most dominant. Yeah, streaming era three album run.
I don't really care about the sales, but I mean
but that sales do matter, especially if you're talking about

(01:02:14):
back then if I add Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
To this list, if it's not, if you don't have
to go with the first three, if you do nothing,
it was the same take care to if you're.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
There was the views, it was take care. Nothing was
the same to views.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
That's that's one of the most insane three album runs
in history. But let's stick with the one to three.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
I think Kanye college dropout, late registration yep here graduation
is absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Not for nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I think Wayne Carter one through three is crazy. I
know Carter one isn't like revered the way a lot
of people's shit is, but I put that there for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
So according to hip Hop, he said Jay's peak, well,
he acts like one year peak. He said ninety eight
to O three in the garden as the single moment,
the fade to black. Okay, when he passed the city
over to you and bleak.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Look who he passes. Happy birthday home by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Oh no, it's nine birthdays tomorrow. Oh yeah, it comes
out tomorrow. You're right. I'm just gonna lie too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
How old is day today?

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Sixty fifty six?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
I am sixty nine, seventy sixty nine, I think sixty nine.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Pause, he will be fifty six tomorrow today? Well today, yes, sorry,
fifty six today.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
So we don't leave our Southern listeners out. T I
Trap Music, Urban Legend, and King is a Crazy three.
That is a crazy three for sure. You could argued
those are three classic albums, especially if you're from Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
NAS.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
I like I Am, but I'm biased there, but I
think illmatic. It was written I Am is a crazy three. Well,
it was written in illmatic. I liked I Am, but
I see what I Am was a good album, but
it's it wasn't that those two Kendrick good Kid, Pimp
a Butterfly, Damn. I mean that's that's that's that's they

(01:04:13):
did sell section eighty Like, that's always been a weird debate.
Is Good Kid, Mad City his first album or not?

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Because it's his first album.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
I think it is as well, but I've seen people
argue it very well, like do it was sold on
iTunes for nine ninety nine? That's not a mixtape? What
especially during that era? But even section eighty, Good Kid,
Mad City, Pip Butterflies, Crazy three?

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
What about Pluto Honest and Dirty Spry Too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, it's nuts. I'm not mad at that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Drake's first three Pluto Honest, Dirty Sprite Too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Yeah, what you said, first three? I like to thank
me later, but it's pretty low on my Drake desography.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Higher mind than people would think.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
So I've really I really like thank me later, but
I don't know if it's in a conversation. That's why
I was saying when you were texting, hop if it
went nothing was the same?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Take care to views like, that's the craziest three album
ship to me, Outcast, Southern Playlistic, Cadillac, Funky Music, eight,
Aliens of Quemini, Shod Damn. Yeah, I don't know that
that might take it for me. Do artists even put
out three consecutive like great albums anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
They barely put out albums.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
They barely put out three, right, they barely put out
three albums. Able to get three albums out? I didn't
even think about this, Mary, what's the four on one?
My life? Share my world? Let me tell you something
that's a crazy three? Someone? What's the four one one? Draw?
That was two? Y'all don't even know how Mary fucked
the city up? Mary fucked the city up? But what's

(01:05:54):
the four one one?

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Would you say it was comparable to how Nelly fucked
the city up with the Barkleys?

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Nah? Well Mary did? It was a little different, Mary,
j Bliger, Lawrence Hill, what's the four on one or
the Miseducation? They're not really comparing, can't. They're like different,
They're completely different album different sounds, different energy, different everything.
Two totally different artists. But when what's the four on one? Drop? Man?

(01:06:22):
Jesus Christ? Like, you couldn't go, You couldn't You couldn't
stand outside for ten minutes and not hear called rod
By and playing Mary. I'm talking about guys like everybody
was playing that shit in they cars like Mary. And again,
I'm speaking strictly off of growing up in New York.
I don't know what Mary was doing on the West
Coast or the Midwest, but in New York City, when

(01:06:43):
what's the fall on one drop? That's all you heard
because the sound it was R and B, but it
was the music was hip hop. Yeah, you know what
I mean. So it was it was easy to play it.
You know, guys didn't feel too like sexied out, you know,
driving down in the Honda court, had your back bumping
that ship like because it had it had beat to it.

(01:07:03):
It had you know, the music was was hip hop.
But what Mary did over those beats was yeah, she
she she she had New York turned upside down.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
So I did R and B by numbers just so
we always acknowledge numbers. US sure is number one with
My Way eighty seven oh one in Confessions.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
What do you know what a coinky didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Number two would be Beyonce with Dangerously in Love Me
Day and I Am Sah Mary, And then number three
would be Whitney with her debut Whitney and then I'm
Your Baby Tonight d I'm Your Baby. Mariah's four and
Mary is five.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
If you're not starting at the first album Beyonce four
to Beyonce the Lemonade.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I think cliped Give gives hang it Up flatt kind
of the craziest three flat period. I mean, I know
it's because his birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
I like Volume one, reasonable doubts to Volume one to
Volume two is still a crazy three to me for people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
People would take Volume one as like the me later
of that one. They don't for some reason. They didn't
like Volume one, not though Volume one was great. I
still listen to Volume one, yeah, but I mean it
probably doesn't compete with Blueprint to Black Album, well not
Blueprint three. Yeah, Jay has a weird desography in that order.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
I don't know. I'm leaning on the rap side.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
It's probably Kanye for me personally, I would say personally
college dropout, late registration, graduation to me is probably for.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Me college drop out, late registration and graduation. Yeah, Kendrick
would be close there as well. That that Kanye three
is crazy. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I think anytime I try to have rap debates, I
go back to like reality, not even like what I'm
thinking in my brain, and it usually lands on Kanye West.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
That Kanye three is crazy, Like you know the music
that's one of those three albums.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Maybe it's maybe it's because I'm a little bit younger
than you. I don't know how you're and I don't
want to say you're downplaying thank Me Later.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
But I just remember when thank Me Later came.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I love Thank Me Later. I just think like Drake ascended.
Going from thank Me Later then going to nothing was
the same. I'm sorry, take Care then to nothing was
the same, was like, yes, he.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
To take Care It's insane. And then it don't even
sound like the same It almost don't even sound like
the same artists. When you listen to thank Me Later
and listen to take Care.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
It's actually similar to Kanye where you sound like it
doesn't even sound like the same voice. Yeah, college dropout
to graduation doesn't even sound like the same person.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
So I hear you, but I'm sorry, I'm rolling. I'm
rolling with with Drake's first three over Kanye's first three.
But that could just that could just be a all right,
do you prefer college dropout or thankulator thank me Later?

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Okay, thank me Later is in my top four, so
late registration versus take Care, take Care?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
No matter that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Then graduation versus nothing was the same like, no matter, listen,
I'm not even here of like, really you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I think the only one I would give you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Push back on is stake me later college dropout, because
to me, that's an easy college dropout. But the up
two and three I don't up for debate, and I
wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Mad at anyone in that regard.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Yeah, but yeah, those would be I guess the the
best three if you're doing two, get Rich, Massacred, Nelly, Nellyville,
Illmatic it was written.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
College dropout, Late registration probably takes the two category for
me as far as that goes, But then I guess it.
Slimshady LP and Marshall Mathers LP are both fucking incredible.
I just think m sucks Now. I didn't think he
sucked the No. Four M albums.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
You think Running It makes timeless music? Not? Given my
opinion on this. Do you think eminem makes timeless music?

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
No, and not by my definition. That's only because of
the content in which I heard it. I was ten
years old listening to Marshamathers LP, and the thought of
how dangerous it was that I was ten and hiding
it from my mom added to the factor of the
entire thing. It was like shock Jock Howard Stern type
of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
You had to hide that album.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
I had to hide a Country Grammar And then then
my mom found it and broken in half because the
intro is you can find me and say all this
I'm got to others going down down. Intro is others
just smoking fuck old Day, that's the intro. And my
mom was like, no, got you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
So it's funny that that's his album that his his
mom would like Grammar and Mons was Doggie style Snoop.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Drastically my mother would have had, you know, the content,
the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
It was a Snoop with Jack Off out country Grandma,
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Yeah, Country Grammar wasn't even crazy Country.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Grandma was like Miss Rachel compared to with Snooper saying
her doggy style. You know what Snooper saying, Nor doggie style.
It ain't no fun if the homieskin have My mother's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Like turn that it's a sessional song about gang rape.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
And now my mom knows, she probably knows what Snoop
is doing right now, Like that's how much my mom
loves Snoop now, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
I was never banned from listening to music and when
I look back, I should have like I should not
have been listening to the deep Jenna Jackson cut to
eight years old, like that probably shaped the way that
I am today. But it was always movies. They never
banned me from music because.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
My father life looked like you was in the house
dancing slow. So that's the way love goes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
There's so many worse songs.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Yeah, there's made you look at that song from the
certain you wouldn't think it would be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
It was bad.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
She had ship that to this day is like like
when my dad was talking about WAP. I'm like, you
had me listening to Janet very young. It's way worse,
way worse.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
She got songs that's like go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Deep, would go deeper. It feels so good. I'm about
to cry, but you know what time. Yeah, but baby
was like ten screaming that ship. She was internalizing for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
She didn't didn't know at the time, but it was
like two years old singing that boy go deeper, baby
d But you I would have beat. My daughter asked
if I came in, and she was saying, singing that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
My dad never cared.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Like I remember, I left my CD booklet on the
bus when I went to go see him, and it
was one of the most distraught days of my entire life.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
You want to go see who my dad. I left
my CD like on the bus. Oh my god, And
thank god I let that was like losing your phone.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
I would throw my phone against a brick wall right
now if I could go back to that day to
get on my CD. But thank god, I let all
my friends burn on my CDs so I had copies
to do that. But my dad saw how destrayed I was,
and he took me the CD store and he let
me buy Mob deep Murder music that was a makeup for.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
It, and then let me put it in his jeep.
Left that made up for your entire collection, Like let
me get this new this new Mob. No, he saw
how this struct like shout out to my posts.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
He saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I was like, No, that was that was losing your
CD collection, lost my life. Yeah, that's that was losing
everything you lost that. It was like what do you
do now? What do I listen to CDs? I still
have mine that all the burnt ones. I think my
mom may have all my CDs. I still have my all.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Bigger my mother threw away that whole crooked ass bookshow.
If y'all made fun of in that video, she threw
away all my ship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
No, that's no. Listen, when you used to go away
for the summer, that was your mom's, your parents' time
to like renovate and do the whole. Yo. I'm win
a way. Once time I came back, moms did the
room over. Yo. I didn't even recognize my room. I
was like, who's supposed to sleep here? All of this
ship is new? Like, where's all my ship at for?
For Patreon or something? I have to look at my storage.

(01:14:53):
I have my CD book. I have all my posters
still too.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
I'll bring them in for like a Patreon episode that
we could just go through my my CD case and
and all the posters that I have in trash bags
that like rolled up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I think there's a Belly poster in there, like the
movie Belly. That's crazy. I had a lot of posters.
The posters was the thing though. I remember seeing posters
in the subway.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Like damn, find who you were. My dad used to
steal your identity, my Harry Potter one and my Janna Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Yea, he had to raise the blade and just cut
it off.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
He stole them and he bought it home from the
subway to Syracuse, like he bought it home.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
We have some of my posters here that the Ellmatic
ship that's been in the background, the Miseducation, those are
all like I didn't buy those as an adult from
my child. The James Brown one my dad ripped off
the wall at BB King's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
You know sometimes you got posters. I need that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
That just made me really like reminisce you know, my
fucking childhood. I hate being an adult.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Yeah, no, it sucks. You're trying to be an adult.
When you was a child the ship you was singing
listening to you couldn't wait to be an adult.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Huh, I wait to be to know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
As a kid, I couldn't win. I thought I was
so I graduated early. I was like, I don't want to.
I hate high school. I hated high school since the
moment I got in. I wanted to be grown so
bad I want.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
To And now look at you, you want to go back.
It's just the bills. You just hate paying hate that's all.
That's all adults hat. We just hate paying for ship.
That's it. But you don't mind being an adult.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
The drinking is smoking and fucking. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
I mean, that's pretty it's pretty cool. But as a teenager, well,
I mean I wasn't as responsible, but everybody wasn't as
privileged as you were. To drink. Smoking fighters really easy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
I know, we have a lot of teenage listeners, so
I don't want to steer them off, but it's really
easy to go out there to find something to smoke,
drink and fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Oh man, So you know, do what feels right, kids.
All right, Well this was fun, yeah, fun, fun trip
down memory lane talking about music.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Well, there was one more question you guys had on here, okay,
which is what would you rather be Fetti Wopper or
Freddy Gibbs?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
All right, do you have to have contra to be
Freddie Gibbs?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Freddie wap is serving federal time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
There was con to first of all, at the context,
because I wasn't there for the context. No, it was
about we were having the peak conversation. Would you rather
have a longer, slower burn of a career or a
crazy high peak like Fetti owned whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Summer twenty fourteen. That was Freddy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Freddy probably didn't get us just doing until ten years
into his career. I'd go with outside of the federal
things Feeddie's going to do. I would go with Freddy
just because I think you have a longer career that way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
I Fay could Probably when he gets out, I'm sure
we'll get booked for a bunch of shit.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
And how smart am I with my money? Because I'd
rather make the money fast, invest it and never have
to be a celebrity man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Vanilla Ice had that song and now it's like one
of the the biggest real estate people in California.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
You know what I'm saying. That's what I like. Let
me get the money in now without all this hard work.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Well, I won't say that Fetti didn't work hard because
we don't know how long he was grinding behind the scenes. Yeah,
either way, he has them hit songs that fucking amazing
run well, baby mother as will.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Chopped down a lot of that bread. I just want
to start there twelve nine look it up, chat GBT,
how many baby mother's face fact.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
That we're burning like oil in the middle of the
country for chat GBT to tell us how many baby
mothers that he has.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Six baby mamas, and like the fact that they said
baby mamas. That's what chat GBT says. Six baby mother
his children he doesn't have. Ye has six baby mamas.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Six kids with five women. Okay, it's not bad, it's
not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
That's not bad, it's crazy. It's the rookie number.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Rookie numbers and me a young boy, pull up, pull up,
a real champion. Yeah, y'all never heard of motherfucking what's Mariah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
A baby father named Nick Cannon.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
We never talked about Nick Cannon, Like what is he
going through?

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
What's up with Nick?

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
When we rely we never really sat and really like
dove into what Nick It's a bird feeder that got
knocked over?

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
How many? How many baby mothers is Nick can have? Ten?
If I'm not mistaken, he could definitely field oh sick
around ten kids? He has six baby mothers, ten kids. Yeah,
twelve kids, six women.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
God damn the rise in the group chats fuck no No,
Elon Must has fourteen kids with four women.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Not outrage, bro, hear me out. I like being black.
I like it a lot. One mind being one of
Elon must kids. I'm just saying, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Your name would be controlled all delete or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
The fun Like he names his kids like that's fine.
I mean one of his kids show ass.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
One of his kids is transit. He took it, he
took He took that kid off the wheel. I don't
know if I wanted, if I wanted to be opposite
sex so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
But if you're gonna have fourteen kids, you're like just
going off the mask. One of them may end up
being dripped.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Is that the numbers one and fortune. I don't think
so less than one percent. I look at Josh has
those numbers right here, but fetti, you gotta check DBT
how many baby mothers?

Speaker 6 (01:20:18):
Shit?

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
But knowing that the change is one percent of the population,
less than one percent of the population.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
But that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Like if I was mc hammer with a good accountant,
I don't know, that may be better than grinding out
for twenty five years, getting a core fan base and
hitting the road.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Yeah, honestly, like mc.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Hammer movie a series would be crazy. We need a
mc hammer series of movies because you need because y'all
in the navy one being a crazy I don't know,
y'all don't know exactly how big of a star.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
MC hammer was. I know y'all know because y'all was
too young, if y'all were even born yet. I think
we have an understanding because he's just part of pop culture.
Only few people just become fan like mc hammer. Hammer
dances like McDonald's to me like it's it's just that.
So no, we don't know, but we have an understanding
mc hammer was.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
But so y'all are going to be pissed at me right.
I would be one of them kids because I know
who m C m r Is. I know how to
do the mc emmer dance if you show me a
picture of mc hammer would not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
If I put a lineup on the TV right now,
have hammer pants on? Huh? Does he have hammer pants on?

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Okay, well that's different, you know, but if you just
see if I just see his face, but nelly A
have air Force ones on his pictures, you can see
his air Force ones.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
You ain't nobody had the band aid. You know that
I have no idea what m C looks like? Would
you know what Johnny Gil looks like? That's the point
is really no no clue.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
That's the point of sisters, no clue, ideal for one
y'all don't know what the point of sisters. That's speccoli
from Ah, No, that's Fast Times originally.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
High that's what's my guy's name? Uh, damn, I don't
know who that is?

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
But is that like the Nellie? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
This is okay? What's is? I apologize to the kids
because I don't know. This is Rod Stewart.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Oh, I mean I know what Rod Stewart is obviously, Yeah, Rod,
he was in June and uh every Halloween costume ever.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
I know who she is, but I don't know the name.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Plays the guitar. Love is a Battlefield? What's her name?
Pat Benatar? Oh that's my.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
That's Rory Page and Benner. After spending a lot of
time in Brooklyn, ZZ talk, he's a joshto He was
throwing me off with zz top.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Josh don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
I listened to all of that, man. I was in
all of them creates. Man. I was digging through all
of that, man.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
But it has a lot to do with with also
with parentage, because like I wouldn't recognize a lot of
members of New Edition because my parents were older, So
my dad only listened to rap and like Michael Franks
and shit like that, and my mother listened. My mother
was older, so she listened to like seventies like sixties music,
So nineties R and B.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
I suck at nineties R and B knowledge.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
I'm terrible at it as far as like pointing out
the artists being able to like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
She know that because my little sister went back and
read like went and listened to all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I didn't. I stayed listening to sixties, seventies and then
current I did not. I like nineties R and B.
But I'm not as you listened to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Music from the sixties. Who's your favorite artist from the sixties?

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
Oh God, Blue Magic Commodorees like old like old shit,
like old.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
No, I would say sixties. I was say seventies, not
sixties seventies.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
So she was going to the like old town like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
That's twenty plenty of music from the sixties that I
listened to. Oldtown, Yes, Sliding Family Stones, I like the Beatles,
rolling Stones. I'll give the Beach Boys a spin.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
I give the Beach Boys a spin. I don't consider
Marvin I mean, I guess Marvion Gay's sixties to James Brown,
Jimmy Hendricks. Yeah, you mean the legends. Yeah, no, I
don't know like the underground garage bands of I have

(01:24:25):
no idea, not dope. I don't know who the immortal
technique of the sixties is. But like, yeah, my mom
played Janis Joplin when I was Danni's got some burning
Sure you know that Van Morrison. A lot of people
are they don't know about Van. You know, they don't
know what he was doing. Man, yeah, you know it's hilarious.

(01:24:46):
Ray Charles never got his just due. Oh man, this
was fun. It's a good music podcast. Yeah. Man, I'm
going and listen to some some old sixties music now
because of y'all. Let the Sixties burning night a. I
will would talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed.
I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Happy birthday, ho Willian

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