February 18, 2026 • 17 mins
On this episode of Now You Know, Knowa sits down with 49th Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris.
They talk misinformation in the digital age, her new book 107 Days, Black History Month in today’s political climate, Trump’s racist rhetoric toward President Obama, celebrity influence, and what the future holds for her and the next generation of voters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now you know.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
No de Barrosso is a production of iHeartMedia in partnership
with Recent Choice Media. Y'all, today we have a very
special episode. Today we have none other than my aunts you,
the twenty twenty four Democratic nominee for President of the
United States, the forty ninth Vice President, Kamala Harris. In
(00:23):
this conversation, we talk about misinformation, her new book one
hundred and seven Days, Nicki Minaj's recent right wing alignment,
Trump's racist depiction of former President Barack Obama, Black History Month,
what the future looks like for her, and so much more. Now, look,
let's start from here. Twenty twenty four was wild, I mean,
traveling across the country, creating content and debating skeptics, all
(00:45):
in effort to combat misinformation and encourage voter participation among
young people. And during this conversation, you're gonna hear us
talk about misinformation, and you'll even hear my very special
guest reflects on the role I played to combat misinformation
at the time time. I also have to thank Auntie
for her time in the strong talk she gave me
after this interview, which you will not be hearing. Come on, now,
(01:08):
that's between me and Auntie, make sure you listen to
the full episode so you don't miss a thing.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Auntie, how are you? I am very well, know how
are you? I'm doing good? Well, I have our first question.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, it is about our tour, Yes, and everything relating
to you. I'm going to say our okay because Auntie, right, yes,
there you go. And what have you been up to
since our hard fought election?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I went back home to California and I spent time
literally and figuratively unpacking.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And then I wrote a book.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And so since the publication of the book, I've been
on a book tour, traveling around our beautiful country talking
with folks, and it's been really wonderful. And so that
brings me to see you again here and make In Georgia.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh yeah, I've never been to make In.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Have you ever been to Making It? I have been
to make It. It's wonderful it is.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah. You've been to small businesses here?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah? Yeah, it really is. Lots of thriving.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Small businesses and community and people who grew up in
the community know the community.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, we both don't know the community. So we're gonna
get another give you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, So you made some I love one hundred and
seven Days. I've read it multiple times. Oh, my copy
is signed when my name on it. Yes, and you
made some call outs. One hundred and seven Days. Wish
one was some of the scariest to write about.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, you know, the most difficult chapter to write was
one around election night.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Because of just what it involved.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And how it felt and what it meant for the
not only the country, but the world. So that was
probably the most difficult writing about that.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, I understand, And I had a question. So I
have all of your you know, your old campaign merch.
I love to I love to keep that around around
my room. I have to ask what was different from
running in twenty twenty than twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh, you know, I think well, obviously, for me, I
was the top of the ticket in twenty four and
so I was able to then articulate my visions for
the country, including for example, what I intended to do,
whether it be to get Medicare to cover cost of
(03:26):
home health care, whether it was what we would do
to really focus on young people and invest in future generations,
and so a.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Lot of the policy issues were very different.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And then of course the stakes are always high in
a presidential election. But you know, as we have seen
in the course of the last now over a year,
I felt a great sense of urgency to communicate as
often and with as many people as possible.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
About the stakes. And you had the most tige breaking
votes as vice president.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Nobody played Welliancy, that's exactly right, right, And to misinformation,
A role I played in the twenty twenty four election
was combating misinformation. Now, yes, ma'am, and I have to
ask you, from your time in criminal justice to just
a bunch of lives, right, what is one piece of
misinformation about you that you want to combat on the
on the show?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, I think that there is a real opportunity for people,
for us to remind people that there is a lot
of misinformation that moves quickly and if we don't, if
we don't take a minute to actually do our research,
then we are going to be influenced by things that
aren't actually facts. And you know, whether it's I don't know,
(04:46):
there are all kinds of misinformation that flows around.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You know, most she's incompetent.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well in your qualified.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You quite qualified?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, So you know it's the range, is there the biggest,
the largest, It always there you go.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So I love I love talking about misinformation. I can
talk about misinformation all day. But who do you think
is the responsible for the widespread misinformation?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I think there are many people who are doing it intentionally,
and I think there are others who are doing it unintentionally.
One of the dangers of miss and disinformation, and in
particular disinformation, is that it is intended to strike fear
(05:30):
in the receiver of that information in a way that
it almost blinds when you're feeling afraid. It almost blinds
your ability to then be open to what else might
be happening.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Right, And that's something that we should we should stop
and think about it.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
If it's making us feel something in a particular fear,
we might want to pause for a minute and look
into it and the facts to make sure that we're
well aware of exactly what's going on and are we
being manipulated, because our first reaction will be right out
of fear. Yeah, and this is out of contemplation and
(06:10):
reflection and thought.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And you just launched Headquarters, yes, which is your social
media platform. Do you hope to combat misinformation during the
twenty twenty six mid term.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yes, absolutely, And I'm glad Noah that you raised the
twenty six mid terms because you know, a lot of people,
as I've been traveling this last year, are asking what
can they do. And one of the things that people
can do is make sure everyone you know is registered
to vote, and let's organize around these elections because part
of the pain the country is experiencing is because we
(06:42):
have a president and his administration who.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Are who are subverting the rule of law, who are.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Engaged in, frankly, the most callous kind of approach to humanity,
and there are no checks and balances. Why are the
twenty twenty six election is important because if we take
back Congress, the House of Representatives, the Senate, then there
will be checks and balances on the president's power, which
(07:11):
right now there are none, and we're seeing a complete
abuse of power.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, and now you know, we know de Brasso, We'll
be right back. This is Black History Month. Yes, and
I don't know if you remember, but I first met
you during your Black History mother, Yes, and.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Set the LFE out, do you remember, Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And it was self.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And how do you think this White House is treating
black America.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Uh you know, look real talk, Noah, when we just
saw most recently, the President of the United States used
his social media to disparage and demeans in such a
disgusting buile away the former President.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Of the United States and First Lady of the United States.
I think that.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We know that we we have a president who does
not understand the importance of black history, and the importance
is celebrating black history and the importance of teaching black history.
And frankly, you know, I had talked about this all
the time in the campaign.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He has a.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
History of being hostile to these issues and is.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Quite unapologetic.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
In his approach and attitude and even the use of
his language and words.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And it's a shame, yeah, but that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Mean you know, this is where sadly, this is part
of where we are right now, where we can't actually
ask the children to take their cues around how one
should think and talk about their fellow human based on
how the President of the United States acts, because that
would be a very bad example.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So we have to look to each other, and.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
On the subject then of black history, we have to
look to each other and to those who will teach
and remind us of America's history through black history. Yeah,
and I'm sitting with blackest, Yes, you are, and I
am sitting with our future. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And to current events. We love current events. Yeah, I
have to ask, and you've always been a CARDI person. Yes,
So how do you feel about Nicki Minaj's falling victim
of misinformation?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You know, I think that.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Again, one of the things about mis and disinformation is
we have to when we disagree with someone, take that
into account in understanding that we may just not be
working with the same information. And so let's do what
we can to make sure that we are sharing accurate
(10:09):
information with as many people as possible, to do what
we can to make sure that we are challenging people
about what they think the facts are and making sure
we're on the same page about the fact that two
plus two will always equal for And.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think that's how we need to handle a lot sens.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well, what is your A lot of young people saw
that and we're influenced by it. What's your message to
young people in this moment?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I would say to young people that you have so
much power and this is your country. You're going to
have to live in this country and therefore decide what
kind of country you want to live in, and then
help form it into being the kind of country that
(11:05):
you want to live in.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And I ask our young.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
People to do that with the spirit of loving our country,
because our ideals are noble, but we have a lot
of work to do to actually live up to those ideals,
and we each have power to participate in forming our
(11:31):
country into being what.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We want it to be.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, a political victim I just realized to misinformation was
Tim Walls. How did you feel about that whole situation.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, I mean, I write about it in my book.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
There was incredible amount of disinformation about him, and he
has been I mean even most recently with the killings
in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And what Tim Walls has done to stand up.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
With the appropriate sense of righteousness about standing for humanity,
standing against abuse of power. I thought, he's I think
he's been doing an extraordinary job, as is his way.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And the first time I met him, I said, treat
my aunty well because I know her better than you do.
And honestly, I've been going to California a lot, and
I love California. Oh what part of California, like the
Los Angeles at Orange County at your house.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Of course you can't. Okay, we'll forget that out.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But what made you not want to run for governor
of that great state?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I just I it's not my calling. But it is
a great state. And there is a lot at stake. Yeah,
California with you know, forty million people, and and so
when I was a United States Senator representing California, I
was representing one in eight Americans. So it has a
(12:53):
great deal of influence and potential influence on the way
the country goes.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, and you're going to vote in that election that
I know you are. Of course, I am, absolutely. And
what is my auntie going to do in the future?
Are we going to run for president twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Oh well, I haven't decided, but I am focused on
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yes, midterms.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yes, I think we have to focus on the thing
that's right in front of us. Yeah, because this well
this election is going to have everything to do with
the environment we'll be in twenty twenty eight, and hopefully
in twenty twenty six we will get to write the
ship a bit around, putting in place some checks and
balances on the abuse of power by this president.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's been such a pleasure. I'm so happy and I
cann't thank you enough.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Thank you, my dear, I'm glad to be with you.
Thank you, Frank you, fag you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Wow, y'all, that was something like I was saying twenty
twenty four was crazy. But one thing I really hope
the Democratic candidate in twenty twenty eight does better is
don't be sheltered. Let me explain. In this episode, me
and the Vice president had such a fulfilling conversation, but
I can't say we would have been able to do
something like this during the election. Let me tell you,
(14:00):
Kamala Harris is one of, if not the best Democratic candidate,
the best the party has ever nominated, and if the
party would just let her be herself all the way,
unapologetically fully, the impact will be unreal. But back to
the episode, it was amazing. We went deep. We talked
about misinformation, politics, the culture, Black History Month. We went there.
(14:22):
Now there's one part I want to revisit. When I
asked her who was responsible for widespread misinformation? And then
we talked about misinformation going into the twenty twenty six midterms,
what she sees happening, and what she hopes to do
during the midterms. Y'all, misinformation hurt Kamala Harris in twenty
twenty four, and if we're not serious about combating it,
(14:44):
it can and will harm us in twenty twenty six. Now,
the reason I wanted to get into misinformation so badly
today was because my guest today, Kamala Harris, was the
main victim in American history to misinformation. I mean, just
lies on her record and her time as district attorney
were so harmful during the election. For example, the lie
(15:04):
that she locked up black men for marijuana convictions simply false.
In fact, her policy, the back on Track program in California,
was a recipe for criminal justice reform across the country
and so many lawmakers across the nation and the Back
on Track program inspired their criminal justice reform. And lies
(15:25):
just on her time in office that she did nothing
as vice president when she had the most tie breaking
votes and actually accomplished the most out of any vice
president in American history, that was harmful during the election.
And like I said, if we're not serious about combating misinformation,
it will harm us in twenty twenty six. Misinformation doesn't
just harm some candidates, it harms all candidates across the country.
(15:48):
And if we're not serious about it, bad things can happen.
I'm also glad I got to ask her why she
didn't run for governor of California, because I feel like
that's something that a lot of people are scared to ask.
But quite frankly, she said it up front. She said
running for governor of California was simply not her calling.
And I think the media right into that decision a lot.
(16:09):
But just like Joe Biden doesn't want to run for
governor of Delaware, I mean, it's not our calling. Just
like George Bush doesn't want to be Senator of Texas.
I mean, the media has spread into that decision so much.
It was actually it was actually baffling. It was actually
kind of shocking. But anyway, I'm really glad I got
to ask that, and I almost forgot to add that
(16:30):
you can buy one hundred and seven Days out now
at any bookstore and online. You can also attend a
one hundred and seven Days book tour stop near you.
Now the topic of black history when I brought it up,
she brought up the racist video posted by Donald Trump
on President Obama. I did not expect her to get
(16:51):
into that today, but we had such a great discussion
there were we really we really got into everything, and
I'm really thankful for the Vice president and i am
also thankful for you all for listening. Please follow me
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I'd really really appreciate it. I also appreciate if you
(17:12):
could download this episode and show support and follow the podcast.
I would really appreciate it. Thank you all for joining
me today. This was a very special and a really
great episode, and I'm sure you agree. Thank you
Now you know.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
No de Barrosso is a production of iHeartMedia in partnership
with Recent Choice Media. Y'all, today we have a very
special episode. Today we have none other than my aunts you,
the twenty twenty four Democratic nominee for President of the
United States, the forty ninth Vice President, Kamala Harris. In
(00:23):
this conversation, we talk about misinformation, her new book one
hundred and seven Days, Nicki Minaj's recent right wing alignment,
Trump's racist depiction of former President Barack Obama, Black History Month,
what the future looks like for her, and so much more. Now, look,
let's start from here. Twenty twenty four was wild, I mean,
traveling across the country, creating content and debating skeptics, all
(00:45):
in effort to combat misinformation and encourage voter participation among
young people. And during this conversation, you're gonna hear us
talk about misinformation, and you'll even hear my very special
guest reflects on the role I played to combat misinformation
at the time time. I also have to thank Auntie
for her time in the strong talk she gave me
after this interview, which you will not be hearing. Come on, now,
(01:08):
that's between me and Auntie, make sure you listen to
the full episode so you don't miss a thing.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Auntie, how are you? I am very well, know how
are you? I'm doing good? Well, I have our first question.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, it is about our tour, Yes, and everything relating
to you. I'm going to say our okay because Auntie, right, yes,
there you go. And what have you been up to
since our hard fought election?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I went back home to California and I spent time
literally and figuratively unpacking.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And then I wrote a book.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And so since the publication of the book, I've been
on a book tour, traveling around our beautiful country talking
with folks, and it's been really wonderful. And so that
brings me to see you again here and make In Georgia.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh yeah, I've never been to make In.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Have you ever been to Making It? I have been
to make It. It's wonderful it is.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah. You've been to small businesses here?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah? Yeah, it really is. Lots of thriving.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Small businesses and community and people who grew up in
the community know the community.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, we both don't know the community. So we're gonna
get another give you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, So you made some I love one hundred and
seven Days. I've read it multiple times. Oh, my copy
is signed when my name on it. Yes, and you
made some call outs. One hundred and seven Days. Wish
one was some of the scariest to write about.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, you know, the most difficult chapter to write was
one around election night.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Because of just what it involved.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And how it felt and what it meant for the
not only the country, but the world. So that was
probably the most difficult writing about that.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, I understand, And I had a question. So I
have all of your you know, your old campaign merch.
I love to I love to keep that around around
my room. I have to ask what was different from
running in twenty twenty than twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh, you know, I think well, obviously, for me, I
was the top of the ticket in twenty four and
so I was able to then articulate my visions for
the country, including for example, what I intended to do,
whether it be to get Medicare to cover cost of
(03:26):
home health care, whether it was what we would do
to really focus on young people and invest in future generations,
and so a.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Lot of the policy issues were very different.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And then of course the stakes are always high in
a presidential election. But you know, as we have seen
in the course of the last now over a year,
I felt a great sense of urgency to communicate as
often and with as many people as possible.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
About the stakes. And you had the most tige breaking
votes as vice president.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Nobody played Welliancy, that's exactly right, right, And to misinformation,
A role I played in the twenty twenty four election
was combating misinformation. Now, yes, ma'am, and I have to
ask you, from your time in criminal justice to just
a bunch of lives, right, what is one piece of
misinformation about you that you want to combat on the
on the show?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, I think that there is a real opportunity for people,
for us to remind people that there is a lot
of misinformation that moves quickly and if we don't, if
we don't take a minute to actually do our research,
then we are going to be influenced by things that
aren't actually facts. And you know, whether it's I don't know,
(04:46):
there are all kinds of misinformation that flows around.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You know, most she's incompetent.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well in your qualified.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You quite qualified?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, So you know it's the range, is there the biggest,
the largest, It always there you go.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So I love I love talking about misinformation. I can
talk about misinformation all day. But who do you think
is the responsible for the widespread misinformation?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I think there are many people who are doing it intentionally,
and I think there are others who are doing it unintentionally.
One of the dangers of miss and disinformation, and in
particular disinformation, is that it is intended to strike fear
(05:30):
in the receiver of that information in a way that
it almost blinds when you're feeling afraid. It almost blinds
your ability to then be open to what else might
be happening.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Right, And that's something that we should we should stop
and think about it.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
If it's making us feel something in a particular fear,
we might want to pause for a minute and look
into it and the facts to make sure that we're
well aware of exactly what's going on and are we
being manipulated, because our first reaction will be right out
of fear. Yeah, and this is out of contemplation and
(06:10):
reflection and thought.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And you just launched Headquarters, yes, which is your social
media platform. Do you hope to combat misinformation during the
twenty twenty six mid term.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yes, absolutely, And I'm glad Noah that you raised the
twenty six mid terms because you know, a lot of people,
as I've been traveling this last year, are asking what
can they do. And one of the things that people
can do is make sure everyone you know is registered
to vote, and let's organize around these elections because part
of the pain the country is experiencing is because we
(06:42):
have a president and his administration who.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Are who are subverting the rule of law, who are.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Engaged in, frankly, the most callous kind of approach to humanity,
and there are no checks and balances. Why are the
twenty twenty six election is important because if we take
back Congress, the House of Representatives, the Senate, then there
will be checks and balances on the president's power, which
(07:11):
right now there are none, and we're seeing a complete
abuse of power.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, and now you know, we know de Brasso, We'll
be right back. This is Black History Month. Yes, and
I don't know if you remember, but I first met
you during your Black History mother, Yes, and.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Set the LFE out, do you remember, Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And it was self.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And how do you think this White House is treating
black America.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Uh you know, look real talk, Noah, when we just
saw most recently, the President of the United States used
his social media to disparage and demeans in such a
disgusting buile away the former President.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Of the United States and First Lady of the United States.
I think that.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
We know that we we have a president who does
not understand the importance of black history, and the importance
is celebrating black history and the importance of teaching black history.
And frankly, you know, I had talked about this all
the time in the campaign.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He has a.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
History of being hostile to these issues and is.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Quite unapologetic.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
In his approach and attitude and even the use of
his language and words.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And it's a shame, yeah, but that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Mean you know, this is where sadly, this is part
of where we are right now, where we can't actually
ask the children to take their cues around how one
should think and talk about their fellow human based on
how the President of the United States acts, because that
would be a very bad example.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So we have to look to each other, and.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
On the subject then of black history, we have to
look to each other and to those who will teach
and remind us of America's history through black history. Yeah,
and I'm sitting with blackest, Yes, you are, and I
am sitting with our future. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And to current events. We love current events. Yeah, I
have to ask, and you've always been a CARDI person. Yes,
So how do you feel about Nicki Minaj's falling victim
of misinformation?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You know, I think that.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Again, one of the things about mis and disinformation is
we have to when we disagree with someone, take that
into account in understanding that we may just not be
working with the same information. And so let's do what
we can to make sure that we are sharing accurate
(10:09):
information with as many people as possible, to do what
we can to make sure that we are challenging people
about what they think the facts are and making sure
we're on the same page about the fact that two
plus two will always equal for And.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I think that's how we need to handle a lot sens.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well, what is your A lot of young people saw
that and we're influenced by it. What's your message to
young people in this moment?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I would say to young people that you have so
much power and this is your country. You're going to
have to live in this country and therefore decide what
kind of country you want to live in, and then
help form it into being the kind of country that
(11:05):
you want to live in.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And I ask our young.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
People to do that with the spirit of loving our country,
because our ideals are noble, but we have a lot
of work to do to actually live up to those ideals,
and we each have power to participate in forming our
(11:31):
country into being what.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We want it to be.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, a political victim I just realized to misinformation was
Tim Walls. How did you feel about that whole situation.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, I mean, I write about it in my book.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
There was incredible amount of disinformation about him, and he
has been I mean even most recently with the killings
in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And what Tim Walls has done to stand up.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
With the appropriate sense of righteousness about standing for humanity,
standing against abuse of power. I thought, he's I think
he's been doing an extraordinary job, as is his way.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And the first time I met him, I said, treat
my aunty well because I know her better than you do.
And honestly, I've been going to California a lot, and
I love California. Oh what part of California, like the
Los Angeles at Orange County at your house.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Of course you can't. Okay, we'll forget that out.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But what made you not want to run for governor
of that great state?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I just I it's not my calling. But it is
a great state. And there is a lot at stake. Yeah,
California with you know, forty million people, and and so
when I was a United States Senator representing California, I
was representing one in eight Americans. So it has a
(12:53):
great deal of influence and potential influence on the way
the country goes.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, and you're going to vote in that election that
I know you are. Of course, I am, absolutely. And
what is my auntie going to do in the future?
Are we going to run for president twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Oh well, I haven't decided, but I am focused on
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yes, midterms.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yes, I think we have to focus on the thing
that's right in front of us. Yeah, because this well
this election is going to have everything to do with
the environment we'll be in twenty twenty eight, and hopefully
in twenty twenty six we will get to write the
ship a bit around, putting in place some checks and
balances on the abuse of power by this president.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's been such a pleasure. I'm so happy and I
cann't thank you enough.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Thank you, my dear, I'm glad to be with you.
Thank you, Frank you, fag you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Wow, y'all, that was something like I was saying twenty
twenty four was crazy. But one thing I really hope
the Democratic candidate in twenty twenty eight does better is
don't be sheltered. Let me explain. In this episode, me
and the Vice president had such a fulfilling conversation, but
I can't say we would have been able to do
something like this during the election. Let me tell you,
(14:00):
Kamala Harris is one of, if not the best Democratic candidate,
the best the party has ever nominated, and if the
party would just let her be herself all the way,
unapologetically fully, the impact will be unreal. But back to
the episode, it was amazing. We went deep. We talked
about misinformation, politics, the culture, Black History Month. We went there.
(14:22):
Now there's one part I want to revisit. When I
asked her who was responsible for widespread misinformation? And then
we talked about misinformation going into the twenty twenty six midterms,
what she sees happening, and what she hopes to do
during the midterms. Y'all, misinformation hurt Kamala Harris in twenty
twenty four, and if we're not serious about combating it,
(14:44):
it can and will harm us in twenty twenty six. Now,
the reason I wanted to get into misinformation so badly
today was because my guest today, Kamala Harris, was the
main victim in American history to misinformation. I mean, just
lies on her record and her time as district attorney
were so harmful during the election. For example, the lie
(15:04):
that she locked up black men for marijuana convictions simply false.
In fact, her policy, the back on Track program in California,
was a recipe for criminal justice reform across the country
and so many lawmakers across the nation and the Back
on Track program inspired their criminal justice reform. And lies
(15:25):
just on her time in office that she did nothing
as vice president when she had the most tie breaking
votes and actually accomplished the most out of any vice
president in American history, that was harmful during the election.
And like I said, if we're not serious about combating misinformation,
it will harm us in twenty twenty six. Misinformation doesn't
just harm some candidates, it harms all candidates across the country.
(15:48):
And if we're not serious about it, bad things can happen.
I'm also glad I got to ask her why she
didn't run for governor of California, because I feel like
that's something that a lot of people are scared to ask.
But quite frankly, she said it up front. She said
running for governor of California was simply not her calling.
And I think the media right into that decision a lot.
(16:09):
But just like Joe Biden doesn't want to run for
governor of Delaware, I mean, it's not our calling. Just
like George Bush doesn't want to be Senator of Texas.
I mean, the media has spread into that decision so much.
It was actually it was actually baffling. It was actually
kind of shocking. But anyway, I'm really glad I got
to ask that, and I almost forgot to add that
(16:30):
you can buy one hundred and seven Days out now
at any bookstore and online. You can also attend a
one hundred and seven Days book tour stop near you.
Now the topic of black history when I brought it up,
she brought up the racist video posted by Donald Trump
on President Obama. I did not expect her to get
(16:51):
into that today, but we had such a great discussion
there were we really we really got into everything, and
I'm really thankful for the Vice president and i am
also thankful for you all for listening. Please follow me
on the socials at Noah de brosso k N O
w A d E b A r A s O.
I'd really really appreciate it. I also appreciate if you
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could download this episode and show support and follow the podcast.
I would really appreciate it. Thank you all for joining
me today. This was a very special and a really
great episode, and I'm sure you agree. Thank you
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