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r/AITAH - BFFs Turn Roommates Now a Big Regret (Long Read..Sorry)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is John, this is Sam, your og Okay Storytime
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
My best friend moved in with me but turned out
to be the worst roommate.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Out out, You're cast out, You're cast out.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Recently, my fiance twenty nine male and I twenty eight female,
have been living with our roommates Nicki twenty nine female
and her husband Josh, twenty eight male, since August of
this year. I have known Nicki since middle school and
Josh since high school back in mine and fiance's hometown,
Hell's Pit Stop HP. I feel like we were fooled
(00:41):
into the situation that we put too much trust in
towards Nicki and Josh. By the way, this comes from
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subparate it. So for brief context, my fiance again twenty
nine male, and I twenty eight female, moved away from
our share hometown of HP in twenty eight eighteen, and
(01:03):
since then that town has been declining steadily. My fiance
and I have accomplished so much, are finally done with
college academics, have finally gotten into full time careers, and
are ready to tie the knot and begin a family
here in our current city and my birthplace Pine. As
ready as we are, we have been diligently planning our
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finances and budget to make the next chapter come to fruition.
I work a full time job that utilizes my veterinary
medical knowledge, and I run a side business that I
network with my closest Pine friends. Been managing it since
May twenty twenty three. My fiance works with law enforcement
full time with his newly started side gig as a
delivery driver. We have very recently started to take in
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more overtime and side business reservations due to our recent
and ongoing roommate drama. Nicki and Josh were my closest
friends growing up in HP. Nicki and I have known
each other since middle school and Josh since senior year
in high school. Nicky and I share similar backgrounds of
family dynamics, and Josh came from a very toxic household
bathers a thug mother, dealt with substance abuse, and is
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now deceased three years ago. They met and started dating
around the same time. My fiance and I started dating
in twenty seventeen, married in twenty twenty one, and since
not left HP until this year in August. I got
engaged to my fiance in twenty twenty two, and we
were hoping to be married by next November now that
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we're done with school and have careers lined up. However,
that may not happen due to current circumstances that will
require us to allocate our finances differently.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Uh oh, that's stuver good.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Just start. Nicky and Josh were experiencing a horrible landlord,
had terrible roommates, We're having low job prospects and growth,
and were overall not very happy with quality of living
in HP for a good while before summer started. After
they visited for my graduation this past May, Nicki and
Josh were really impressed by Pine. Nicki and I were
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in touch more often, and she would say she wished
she could be there or able to leave her hometown
to start anew and give her and Josh a fresh start.
Within June, we were all passing back and forth the
idea of helping Nicki and Josh join us in Pine
and we would be in a win win situation as
roommates that could help both parties launch forward with the
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respective goals in the next year or so. We were
all so invested in the idea that my fiance and
I made sure they simply understood that they are one
going to have to adjust to different seasonal climates and
we would help teach them.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Two average California. Why isn't cold and wet on the ground?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
He know?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Doo gold Number two, be on top of handling their
two small dogs, including household behaviors and socialization with our cat.
To please not adopt any more pets. They have geriatric.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Rats, geriatric rats really old rats.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We have a geriatric host that do that, right, I
mean technically yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
If you're making a joke, you did nail it. Good job.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And we cannot add more due to the cost of
pet rent or risk of being fined. I don't know
what number I'm on. Five, help maintain a clean home
so as to avoid injury or illness for ourselves and
our pets. And six simply be very open with communications
with us about anything. As my fiance and I do
work a lot and want to make sure we all
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get along or if home problems arise. When I tell
you we accomplished a ton and a short amount of time,
I mean it. My fiance and I made arrangements to
transfer our lease at our complex. I help Nikkey by
paying for one of the dogs, but the best temperamentt
to be an ESA animal, partially to avoid having it
rehome due to the complexes limit. And I notified our
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local Pine friends for jobs for job leads to help
Nicky and Josh to start applying asap. Nicky and Josh
were to focus on ending their lease, job situations, and
other tasks in HP. This was all done in June
to July.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
That's what is this too much?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We're getting a lot of.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Details, A lot of information, Yeah, a lot of information.
It seems like what's just to condense it. It seems
like Ope and their partner have these two friends who
they grew up within their hometown, and their hometown kind
of sucks and so Op and partner no HP HP.
Op and her partner moved to Pine, which is a
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lot better. And we're talking to their friends, Nicky and
I believe Josh. Yes, Nicky and Josh and Nicky and
Josh were like, wow, Pine sounds great, and they talk
a lot about it, and eventually they decide Nicky and
Josh are going to move in. But they're like, hey,
there are some ground rolls. Just gotta be really careful
about the weather. There's gonna be some stuff that you're
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not used to, wets you have they have, Josh and Nicki,
and so there's just a bunch of pet stuff that
has to be figured out.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
It's a lot of stuff, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Rules and things that need to be figured out before
Nicki and Josh can move in. And that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Got an ICU. Also, if there's anything that's like not pertinent,
we have a lot of words in this story, a
lot of words. Would you do best, guest?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And fast forward August, we transferred our lease from a
studio to a one year lease in a two bed,
two bath apartment with the complex we've been living in
for the past three years, best place to be quiet
and most affordable in a university town. Nicky and Josh
had to be convinced that this was a big money
saver two K plus savings compared to getting a whole
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new lease at a new place with high accompanying deposits
and fees. Josh really griped about it, as he wanted
a more upscale luxury apartment which was at a higher
cost less space and charge rent fees for pets and parking. Yeah,
the rats, but also I don't know if Josh can
really be saying I want a better place. Like the
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whole point of them moving in with Op and her
partners that they can't afford it. It's like, why are
you trying to get a more expensive.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I have no money, but I want to live in luxury.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
With It took some encouragement and reminders that luxury is
not a need, but it could be achieved later if
that's what they want. It seems like Op and her
partner are like life coaches for Nicky and Josh like this.
We would help them learn how to budget and adjust
living styles the best we can. That rewards back generously.
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NICKI was all on board with whatever it took and
was very much looking forward to it. But it should
have been a warning sign with Josh in how reluctant
with almost everything we had to do.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
He was.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
At the beginning of August, Nicky came up with the
dogs and Secret Rats first.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Another secret rats rat That's that's here some sgr.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, So Nicky came up with the rats, the Secret
Rats and the dogs first first. After resigning from her
part time job in HPOS, Josh was to follow in
September once he was able to exit his full time
job with a big payout. Both worked in the same business.
I cannot begin to express how enjoyable, peaceful, and fun
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it was to have only Nicki that whole month. She
was a team player. She and I would cook with
and for each other nearly every evening. We love to
cook and try new foods. Nicky was more inspired and
driven to do and try anything in her job search.
She was even considering returning to healthcare services or seek
a new path in it foreclosure due to pass traumatic
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experiences from HP. She joined us in a few local
event outings, got to meet again with one of my
closest Pine friends, and was really branching out and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Networking doing great.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Nicki's killing it with those rats. Nicki, in simplest of
ways of saying it, was hopeful, happy and striving to
really make the most of this new start. She was
learning to be comfortable with her own company and would
talk with Josh at the end of every day as
it was their first time ever having to be apart
longer than a day.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Quick sidebar, but this is like probably the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Why yah, secret, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's fire. Yeah, that's fire.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
This reminds me of the Great Mouse detective.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So I'm talking about Oh you are hmm, No, I'm
thinking of the Orange Stillson. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah. I also was thinking about that for a moment.
But yeah, but there also is the Great Mouse.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Dude, this is a movie. I don't know about a man,
but we should make a movie yet.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Nicky was tapping into her arts and crabs. I encouraged
her to have fun with and see potentially as her
own side gig with Etsy and local craft market slash Faares.
I was so happy to see her making healthier choices
for herself in making changes to her lifestyle. She had
a serious health scare before coming up to join us
that leaves me still worried for her about having a
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potential stroke, thrombosis, ambolism, and more at such a young age.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh no, then, like.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Most things that almost seem too good to be true.
Josh arrives a week later into September, and things immediately
take a downward spiral.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
In all my years of having known my two friends,
I feel like I am now living with a version
of Nikki I cannot fully trust, and a total agg
hohole of shadow version of Josh who Nicki is now
completely opposite of how she was in August, reverting back
to old habits and being completely submissive to Josh, with
no backbone to stand up for herself her needs and
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what is principally right and wrong of Josh's actions and
behavior here. As for Josh, I know he still mourns
in his own way the tragic loss of his mom.
I deeply believe he needs to see a therapist to
deal with his childhood, his grief, his current family dynamic dynamics,
and seek help for his harsh negative adjustment in personality
to these I get that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But why have a therapist when you have Jerry Atric rats?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Also, you should either have us in your life or
secret Jerryatric Yeah, forgot the secret part. Sansy arrived at Pine,
he's been behaving as if he didn't want to join
us in Nicky, been ignoring us when we greet him,
or barely acknowledging us when Nicky is present, and definitely
lazy and incompetent to the simple aforementioned agreements. We made
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dirty dishes and cookwear after using the kitchen, leaving food
stuff out, not keeping up with their dogs or disciplining
them when they act up or make a mess. Except
for our bedroom area. Their dogs have peede almost everywhere else,
Oh my god, that would piss me off. And on
carpet to where it is stained, for not being promptly
or properly cleaned, pooping on the floor and couch, being
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highly reactive to anything outside, et cetera, and being problematic
when invited to social gatherings. We started to keep to
our room shortly after Josh's behavior when attending a social outing.
In celebration of her not dying from a near fatal
heart complication, my friend Bailey hosted a death ofversary dinner
at her home in September. She extended the invitation to
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Nikki and Josh for them to join and see everyone again.
That's an interesting party. Wait deathniversary that she didn't pass away?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
This friend Bailey.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Front of Bailey. Okay, well huh uh sure I thought
that that might be an alve aversary or something. Hey,
you know, just sday it takes. I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
My cat's name is Karen says, why take these people
on like this? Opie never should have sabotaged her life? Yeah,
really quickly pausing. It does seem like like Opie's kind
of shot talked by all of this. But we already
kind of knew that they were, you know, not doing
necessarily that great, didn't have a lot of life skills,
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because it seemed like opean her partner were teaching them
a lot. Yeah, so it's like we already knew they
were pretty behind and pretty like needy. So I feel
like some of this stuff should have been a little
bit expected.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Why, Like I think there's you know, it's great to
be able to help help friends with different things and
if someone's like, oh, hey, like you've got it all together,
like show me a ways whatever, great, beautiful, get some coffee.
Do they have to live with you and you be
there like free like life coach. Yeah, don't need that,
you don't need to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, they can still want to move to Pine without
having to live with you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Thing go.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Bailey further mentioned me how her husband, who started his
own business, would be interested in getting to know Josh
better and potentially hire him as an apprentice.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh oh, no, there we go. I don't know if
I like that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Nicki and Josh accepted the invitation to join us. I
wish they hadn't and save Bailey the hassle that was
about to follow. We arrived at the party, giving notice
to Bailey we'd be an hour late due to work
the fours. The four of us walked in to see
folks enjoying a meal, conversations, games, and Bailey's kids up
to Shenanigans. Greeted with the group, Hello and grab some
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food while it's hot, and we came in and made
ourselves comfortable. Nicki and Josh immediately secluded themselves to a
corner on the sofa, Josh on his phone and Nicki
crocheng her hobby. Neither would speak to anyone who came
to join them on the couch trying to make conversation,
nor did they try Bailey in her husband's food or chili, cornbread,
mac and cheese and.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Chips with dip.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There's a feast over there, and they're not even in
get in on it. They're not ean. I had to
prompt Nikki to try a bowl of food and join
us at the table for some conversation. Josh refused to
try any saying he doesn't like what they made and
was fine on the couch. This did add insult to
injury with Bailey and her family. Bailey's husband is a
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good cook, and since her close encounter, Bailey has been
supported by us and her family in trying healthier foods
with her and for her heart. We've all tried recipes
with her at get togethers, and they've all been delicious
so far that you wouldn't tell if it was vegan
slash vegetarian. Nice Nikki joined everyone briefly with food and
then quickly retreated back to where Josh was still not
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moved or indifferent from his closed off posture with his phone.
Bailey tried to offer to get something for Josh when
going out to pick up some dessert in town. He
barely acknowledged her and didn't answer, why is he being such.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
An a hole? E?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
He's like, hey, yeah, no, I'll be him.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You be okay? Oh, I know you bem, I'll be.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Okaya, Hey, I know you didn't eat earlier, Josh, So
I just wanted a head at the store. Do you
want to do? You want me to grab anything? No
trouble at all. I just you know, okay, I was
thinking maybe I could grab you know, a little sandwich.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Ah okay ah and see and see it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
There he goes, he's kind of giving like Frankenstein. Yeah,
well Frankstein's.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Monster true important distinction.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He barely acknowledged her and didn't answer. So I went
up to Josh and asked what it would be that
he would like to have with us, since he didn't
want to eat or drink anything and does not partake
in drinking booze. When he was even being quiet to me,
Nicki quickly said for him, so did our Coca Cola
with suffice. I related that to Bailey, who quickly got
it with dessert for everyone. Josh refused to even have
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any of that. Bailey was offended and quietly gave up
trying to host them. This is so rude, so wack,
so whack. It feels a bit like Nicki is kind
of I mean, Pete kind of said it before, but
she's trying to you, you know, appease whatever Josh wants.
And it's a bit like silenced and subdued, especially especially
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because we know how she was acting before Josh got there. Yes,
so it does feel like not a healthy relationship.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Feels like it very unhealthy. Dare I say, more unhealthy
than a a just like skindded bone shivering, jeriatric secret,
secret rat secret. Dare I say I think you should?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Dare I think you should?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Dare unhealthy?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
The evening continued on for two hours, and not once
did either Nikki or Josh make a peep or attempt
to join the rest of the party. Why are they
even there? What are they getting in pine that is
better than HP? I guess kind of like free life coaches,
but they're not even taking their advice?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Also true.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Nikki only came up to me once to ask if
I could unlock the car for Josh to grab his
game boy slash ps from her bag. What in the
iPad kid is going on here?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
M talk about it?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Nothing was in her bag, so I used this as
a way to ask her quietly if she would like
me to take her and Josh home, as I could
tell they didn't want to be there so astute opie. Yeah,
Nicki insisted we all stay, that she was having a
good time and that Josh was fine slash having a
good time. We stayed, but soon left after being there
for an additional thirty minutes. It was the most silent
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and awkward drive home ever. My fiance and I tried
to make small talk and engage them about the party,
explaining Bailey's deathversary story to them. Yeah, also kind of
like a meaningful party that they're just dunking on.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You're so right, You're yeah right.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Nicki was the only one interested and genuinely curious. Josh
only sighed with exaggerated boredom the whole time. He sounds
like a little like teenager. He sounds like a moody
teen He's playing his video games and he's like, I
don't want anything.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It doesn't taste good, such like like eight year old energy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Just since then, my fiance and I began to keep
to ourselves. We began to take on a lot of
work in our careers and made long reservations for clients
to care for their homes and pets. We have a
return home and spend time with our cat, Gremlin my
nickname for her to avoid being insulted by Josh with
his jokes. These jokes at first started off as friendly
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roast of us finally being home, but then they quickly
started to be rude as they insulted how long we
had to work or be away, insinuate that we neglect
our cat, make horrendous jokes that we were racially or
bigoted too much and too often, and like to pick
on my fiance's computer setup. We don't have much as
we hope to save household things for our planned home
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owning goals.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Why are they Josh sucks.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Josh freaking sucks.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Take them out, Oh, Peter.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Fiance tried, like did so much to help Josh and
Nicky and are receiving just just vitriol, just terrible, terrible behavior.
My fiance was the first to have enough of it
and would retreat to our room and avoid Josh after
working a long day with difficult people. I started to
do the same, especially when returning from an overnight gig
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that kept me away for days or weeks. Our room
became our safe haven. I began to cook less food
as Josh wouldn't eat it, and nick fell and NICKI
fell back into habits of them eating out nearly every
day for every meal. I stopped altogether come November.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Why are you making meals for him? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
What do you mean this isn't your child. I mean
he is a child of a man, but it is
not like four child.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
It seems like, oh, he's like, oh, I you know,
I stopped cooking altogether. But it's like, no, you can
keep cooking for yourself. Just say, I'm not cooking for you.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Guys, this is your house. You invited them in, Sophia.
Would you would you ever let a Josh stop you
from cooking of whatch you love? Now that's a no.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Also, if you wanted to make some money, be like, hey,
if you guys want me to cook for you, it's
gonna cost X more months, so you have to pay
X and rent in order to get the service.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Exactly. We would try to greet Nicki and and or
Josh with little response. The times we would be in
the living room to hang out would be brief or
to enjoy our cat and their dogs playing together. How
quickly even that pastime fell into eternal sleep, alongside with
how our cat nearly fell into a turtle sleep from
Nicki and Josh's negligence. Oh no, our little Gremlin, as
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she is so nicknamed for being a sassy tortoiseshell that
loves to play pranks and play NonStop, got along so
well with Nicki and Josh's dogs, as they would play
and chase each other, hang out in the living room
when my fiance and I were home, and that Gremlin
would enjoy lounging around with them. We asked Nicki and
Josh to supervise play between our pets when we were
not home when away at work, not to let Gremlin
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thinks she can be on the kitchen counters or dining
table as she does know better, and to make sure
she and the dogs don't get into anything that'll hurt them.
Simple rules, you would think, so simple rules hold them.
We gave permission for them to let Gremlin out of
our room to be with them and the dogs in
the rest of the apartment. I guess that was simply
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too much to ask and expect of them.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
In October and shortly before Halloween, Nikki and Josh returned
from a road trip. Josh was recovering from an altitude
and do sinus congestion slash head cold and brought back
liquid cold medicine in a ziplock bag for three days.
Josh had left that bag out on the kitchen bar top.
I failed to see this due to me and my
fiance having to work our side gigs that kept us
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away overnight for a few days and we never went
into the kitchen in avoidance of Josh. I meal prep
every week and we keep meals in our workplace fridges
and at my overnight gigs, hence no need for us
to enter the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Ooh, does Josh like take like food? Why did they
do that?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think maybe to avoid him?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, I think they just literally don't want to see
Josh nicky.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like it almost sounded like I stopped cooking because it's
like if almost fears that there's this expectation if op
he's cooking in the kitchen, then he's gonna want to
get some food or something, which she feels compelled.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Which is weird though, because it seems like Josh isn't
even eating it. Like Opie said, he's not even eating
the food.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So dude, what's going on going on?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Unbeknownst to my fiance and I until the morning of
the fourth day, our cat came into contact with the
cold medicine while unsupervised during play with the dogs, But
the kitty doesn't have a cold, which it goes against
like three of the rules they had, one not supervising
the dog and the cat, two letting the cat onto
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the counters, and three letting the cat get into things
that it's not supposed to. That night before, Nikki messaged
me to tell me Gremlin was acting grumpy, slushberry upset,
and I'd given her a hard warning Nip to leave
her alone, and not knowing and thinking Gremlin was being
off due to hairballs of her winter coke growing in,
I said for Nicki and Josh to leave her alone
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and put her back in our room. That following morning,
my fiance went to change clothes for work and found
Gremlin surrounded by vomit, acting needy and vocalizing and lying down.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh not good.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
He called me while I was at work in a panic,
sending me a video of how she was behaving. On
his way out, my fiancee told me he had bumped
into Nikki and explained the situation to her, but she
was more concerned about one of her dogs. Having a
reverse sneeze.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What does it even mean? It's so dogs will do
this thing. It's like it's like it's a reverse Kniez.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Basically, Then about why our cat was so sickly that
he went into work as he couldn't call out. But
my work let me leave early so that I could
promptly get her in to see the vet as soon
as I could. Knowing this was urgent. Gremlin was stable
enough for me to come home and pick her up.
I found her in our room with more vomited bile,
signs that she had not eaten from her auto feeder
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in the last twelve to eighteen hours, and her lying
lif nateral and vocalizing to me her discomfort. Gums were
pale and tacky, her heart beating so fast from stress. Oh,
she wouldn't even accept her favorite snack for me to
gauge her interest in food. Once at the vet, we
went back and forth over what it could be, pancreatitis, colitis, gastritis, constipation,
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or even unknown undiagnosed IBD.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Or rental disease. Don't like.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah those all sound terrible. Yeah. Once Gremlin could be
sedated for her fear, aggression and pain, I ordered baseline
bloodwork and X rays to be done. While we waited,
her VET and I further discussed what she may have
gotten into. I admitted to the vet that Kremlin is curious,
loves to explore and check out things by touch, taste,
and scent, so she could have gotten into something left
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out or within her reach, not within our bedroom. Upon
the vet's recommendation, searched the apartment for what could be
the likely cause. With the baseline established, it was seen
that Gremlin had an abnormally enlarged spleen, a drop potassium
level shot to hell, a peculiar fusion around her heart,
and was very dehydrated.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wow, a lot going on with this cat, so many details.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We have geriatric rats and a very sickly cat. Very
sickly cat who kimberly finds his dark gums lack of oxygen.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, the gums tell all.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I didn't know that. As her symptoms were so on
set under twenty four hours, it was unsure what to
do and what to risk. I had the option of
keeping her hospitalized there, but she wouldn't have a tech
with her and the money for it was not worth it.
One point five K plus per twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yep, over fifteen yep. Dang, that's about right.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Because of that, or transferring her to another vet clinic
that offers staffed overnight hospice three K plus a day.
Oh my god, it was all becoming costs. I knew
we couldn't afford on top of our additional debt. After
weighing the facts known, then with my cat's results, what
I knew and what could be done and the risk,
I got my cat stabilized with supportive care and took
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her back home. I had my fiance take over my
gigs for me so that I could be with her
overnight and monitor. Once home, I got her comfortable in
her bed and put cat TV on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's nice, Oh that's cute.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That same afternoon, I searched the apartment high and low
for what she could have gone into. I had found
at first chlorox wipes and a disinfectant spray left on
the ground by the dog's crate situated by the front door. Well,
that's not a good sign.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Mmm, I don't like the sound of that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's a bad sign. When looking around higher up, I
found the zip lock bag on the counter, and boy
did I see the glaring true problem of why my
cat was being so sickly inside that bag was leaking
cold medicine. Bad bade bye bye bye bad. That same
bag I found to have evidence of my cat having
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bit the edges out of curiosity. Wouldn't have just put
away your medicine.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
We just close a bag and place said bag you know,
you know what, don't even close it, just just place it.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Out of reach, place it anywhere else. That's just crazy.
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Bro's about to run up ten thousand plus dollars with
medical bills. Yeah for this cat.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Ooh yeah, I saw red and felt so much rage
having found this out, feeling sick that this was within
a reach. I had no idea if Nicky and Josh
were home. It is difficult nowadays to tell, as they
always leave their dogs out unsupervised and their door shut.
Went away from work or home, which probably is not
great because these uh dogs are pea and everywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
True, they're like pee everywhere else except for our room.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, They're like, we close our door and then we
opened your door and let them pee there. I angry
cried on the kitchen floor for a good while before
I could text my fiance what I found. It took
every ounce of rationality and self control to not break
down their bedroom door and charge in screaming. But I
knew they wouldn't or take accountability if I did a
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rup like that on them. I knew how Nicki would react,
and how John would and how Josh would shut it down.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, hey, well don't pen this on me, John shutting
it down. I'm in a sent and have no geriatric.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Rats, not a single geriatric rat, not a single one insight.
I collected myself, calm down and set a message to
Nicki and Josh in our roommate chat that I needed
to talk to them about my cat and what was
going on. Put your foot down, Ope, put it down,
Put it down. Twenty minutes later, Josh returns home from
his work, ignoring and avoiding eye contact with me while
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I stand in the kitchen watching him walking straight to
their bedroom and shutting the door. Then they both emerge,
awkward and quiet. It reminded me of how my siblings
were nervous before scolding from our parents. I explained everything
to Nicky and Josh of what Kremlin was going through
and what I had just deduced it to what I
hope to be a very mild toxicity poisoning of a
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set of a meano fin a seed of metaphone, a
ceeda metaphin.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
What we're doing aceta menaphon, a seed of medaphone.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's a fun word that you came into contact with
by biting the ziploc bag they slash Josh had left
out containing leaked cold medicine that bursted from altitude change.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Also Kimberly found. Okay, maybe this isn't accurate, but Kimberly
find said, who the f keeps liquid cold medicine in
a bag?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
But it was well, first it seems like it had broken.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, right, and he maybe had the plastic bag around
it in case it did. Yeah, Okay, that's yeah, more understandable.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But it seems like we have just every one of
the rules that Op had set forth for Nicky and
Josh just completely ignored.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Because you know what, maybe uh, you know, we've all
been there unpacking. You leave things out maybe if you
get to put in the way. But have they been observant?
Had they just watched the cats?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, that's the thing. They left the cat they like,
Op said, Oh, you can either leave it in my room,
or let the cat out if.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You're you know, observing mentioned it. Yeah, just just completely
come on.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
The entire time I was speaking to them, only Nicki
maintained eye contact and concerned interest, while Josh stayed just
out of my line of sight towards their bedroom. He
sounds like a child. So so Nicky is here and
she's like, yeah, no, of course, I'm so sorry. And
then Josh is like in the background, he's like, yah, whatever,
I'm sure. He's like holding a geriatric round. He's like,
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my rats would never drink cold medicine.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Me and Gerald the secret geriatric rat are freaking over this.
Or Geronimo Geronimo Stilton.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Only when I showed Nicki the bag did she turn
to him and tell him to take his things and
put it away. After a brief snort to show he
didn't like that, Josh grabbed the bag and immediately started
inspecting it. This whole interaction in summary when as follows Jay,
she must have bitten the bottleneck and lid removes the
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two bottles to it. Mores closely me. Her mouth isn't
that big. She didn't chew on the bottle, and that's
not her habit with anything in a plastic bag with
cardboard boxes and bags. She nibbles on the edges to
enjoy how it crunches or feels, even rubbing her face
on them to scent mark. Jay, I doubt it, h Nikki, Honey,
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the bottle isn't chewed on. There's literally stuff all over
them from one leaking. There's liquid in.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
The bag, Dude. A cat opening a medicine bottle is
absolutely ludicrous.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
It's childlocked. I can hardly open a medicine bottle. Yes,
it's really difficult, dude. H Jay shrugs his shoulders and
puts the bottles in the sink, taking the one leaking open,
which hisses from air pressure. Me hear that that is
air pressure releasing. It has been slowly pushing the medicine
out since you guys came back a few days ago.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Jay.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Mmm, yeah, I guess, puts bottle back into the sink
and raises the zip lock bag up to the light.
What olds me point along the bag's edge to obvious
holes in the plastic holes. Jay then takes the ziploc
bag to fill in the kitchen sink with water.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Bag immediately fills and leaks from various holes around the edge. NICKI,
Oh crap, Jay.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well there's holes holes.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
There's holes in your brain, dude, so there's holes in
your brain. This is ridiculous. Why are they still living
with you? Why are they still here? I'm pissed off,
right me?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I told you.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Gremlin came onto the counter I'm supervised at some point
yesterday and bit the bag. She got some residue in
her mouth, and now she's sick. This conversation quickly ended
with him not saying anything or even an apology. He
went into the room and shut the door while Nicki
and I made sure nothing else was within reach for
the dogs to get into. That first night, I stayed
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up with Gremlin to make sure you pulled through. My
timetabled exactly when to medicate her. I had to take
her to another event with Eercare the second day after
her first visit, where she was further diagnosed with the
stressed induced UTI and put on more medication for two weeks.
She recovered slowly, and my fiance and I stayed secluded
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in our room when we could be home and shifts
to be with her. Our cat was on a soft
food diet for a month as she had a sophagitis
from the bile eroding and irritating the muscular layers of
her throat. Man, oh man, that cat has a lot
going on with it.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
This has got a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Just a psa about you know, not letting your cats
have access to coal medicine.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know, I've seen a lot of medical information about cats,
but this is I'm not a loss here, Yeah, not
gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, there's a lot of medical stuff going on with
this cat. You could fill your own Reddit post with
stuff true. Since the incident, Josh has avoided us and
ignored us as usual. Conversations with NICKI were strained. Even
at a sit down talk two weeks after the incident
to discuss what transpired and to confront the massive elephant
in the room. Josh put on a show and still
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did not apologize or show real repentance.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Dude to the streets, let.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Like kick him out, kick him out please.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
The rats are yeah the street keep.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, keep the secret geriatric rats, because I feel like
they'll bring you secrets or something. They'll fulfill their.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Duty exactly, their geriastric wisdom.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
In a more private conversation with Nikki, since she was
the only one I could be honest with and who
my fiance felt would be open to it. We asked
that she talked to Josh about reimbursing us for half
or all of the three K spent on Gremlin, which
I think is like, pretty fair because they are the
reason why the cat is so sickly.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, and they don't even care, don't care. It's so
avoidable all that.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Dude, if you really wouldn't get back at them cats
and rats, not.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
The geriatric rats. But they're a secret that the cats
wouldn't know. They can't possibly know about these geriatric rats.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
What if one of them is like, like the cat
is Tom and then it's Jerry the geriatric rat.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Whoa this is like when they're really old exactly. Nikki
agreed wholeheartedly that it was only right that they did,
but she would need to talk to Josh about it
first and let us know asap. Josh is gonna be like,
we don't know the money, this is ridiculous. Since then,
a whole month has passed with more occurrences. In the interim,
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Nikki has not given us any updates nor spoken to us.
She and Josh continue to leave a mess in the kitchen.
They are dogs, unsupervised and loose in the apartment, and
have made little effort to work with us. In between
maintaining the apartment. Between shifts collecting ot and working our gigs,
my fiance and I clean the apartment at night in
the late how hours early morning. We were paranoid our
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cat would relapse or have delayed health problems, but she
thankfully hasn't. That's good, thank God. How much did she
have of that cold medicine?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I mean, yeah, how much does it take to make
a cake get sick?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well, she was lapping at not much. I'm guessing like
a lot of the bottle spill to where it was
like pooling right on the bag. So if she kind
of just like got all that out, then she's done.
That's it. Like maybe like like half of like a
serving of those cups or something. Yeah, yeah, something like
that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Gremlin has since been kept within our room basically her
room now with everything she needs and when are both
of us being home with her every night? Nikki and
Josh no longer have permission to enter our room or
interact with her. Gremlin has not left our side and
avoids Josh when he happens to be out at the
same time as us. Gremlin only ever leaves our room
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when we are home to watch her. With my feelings
of betrayed trust and disgust and my fiance's anger towards Josh,
we have agreed to do whatever it takes to afford
our first home by next summer. With our jobs and
side businesses. You know, He's like, we need to get
out of here.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
M h wait they need to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
H well, so basically I think they went on They
went in on the like the cost of this place
that they're living at, yeah, with Josh and Nicki, and
so now they're like, okay, yeah, we can't live with
them anymore, so let's.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Get our place.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Let's use that to save up to freaking get our
own place and say see you later. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Man, If Nicky and Josh do not repay us, we
are considering telling them taking them to a small claims court.
We made plans to potentially forego a wedding with family
and friends and a lope. Yeah, I mean like you're
about to spend some money and also you spend three K.
So if you don't get that three k back, you
better go out fighting.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Come on. That's all I gotta say, come on.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
As much as it was becoming a fun plan b
to that milestone due to family drama, it now has
a solemn tone of its reality, adding on to her
anticipation and joy and soon becoming a husband and wife.
That's I mean, that's great, but it sucks that you
know your your joy is being somewhat damp dampened.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh one hundred. Also, not to add more details to
this story, but Prince ex did make a good comment.
A twenty five pound baby can only have five millileters.
That's like nothing. That's like just covering the bottom of
the plastic cups. So if a cat had that much
or dare I say more like two or three times
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that I'm out.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Not good, not good. I will be happy to marry
either way. But we wish this wasn't driven under these
collected circumstances. To add to my disgust and mistrusted, I
grieve for a friendship being lost with Nikki and what
no longer exists with Josh in any capacity. Our range
for Nikki and I to have a girl's night out
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before Christmas, something I know is much needed but necessary. Also, Riley,
what I need is a cup of water?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Please? The queen requires what thought is dying? How much
for a store? We got what?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
We're over halfway through?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Wow? We gotta.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah maybe seventy?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Nice? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
What are Let's take a pause because I read a
lot you d waiting for an update that never came.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's just a.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
You know what we do?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Gone? So my thoughts are that, yeah, they basically they
do need to get out as soon as possible. Yeah,
they should basically press charge, like I think they'll kind
of need to honestly, like, might as well just get
ahead of it at this point, because.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Well they've been so awful this whole time.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, and it's like you're not seeing the friendship. And
if you don't do that, then they can waffle around
and you know, kick the cane down there, or at
least Josh can. Maybe she goes like along with it too.
But I think you basically be like, yo, give us money,
will file the claim and then honestly potentially even see
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if you can get him kicked out sooner.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I yeah, I would see, because like maybe there's something
with the lease that or you can break the lease
or get them to get out something. But I think
maybe the issue is that they can't afford the lease
all by themselves, so because that's why they want to
move into a like kind of a less expensive place.
What did you get?
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Hey, where's that from?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It looks it looks good? All about a Unicorse says
these people are the worst. Teach them a lesson, and
someone the characters that I am I can't read it
says they don't deserve to be pet parents if they're
disregarding Op's situation exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Oh heck no, exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
My cat's name is. Karen says they're going to have
to legally a victim, which will take months. So it
might like by the time that they go through that
whole process, which I'm assuming it would be expensive, the
least will probably be up. Anyway, Do we go for more? More?
Speaker 1 (42:22):
What like?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
We'll just eating and up? Which just round up to
ten grand.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Let's just do a sweet five k I don't even
know if they have two freaking pennies to rub together.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, I doubt I doubt they do. It doesn't seem
like they're really works so much.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Here we go here we go three k but Josh
has to volunteer at pet shelters making them happy.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, you have to do community service yep, because you
almost aren'nlived or cat I like that, and also teaches
them how to take care of pets, which he clearly
doesn't know how to do. But there's more to this story.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
You got this, do what you do best. Really let
go in.
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Speaker 2 (43:05):
We need to know what is going on. And if
Nicky was ever able to talk to Josh, I feel
like she will defend Josh regardless, which is disheartening to
think about. Yet it seems like she's pretty, you know,
subdued around Josh. I don't know what else to say.
I just had to vent it here. I understand I
may be the a hole and some Reddit subs, but
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I have read and witnessed enough animal negligence cases of
ignorant animal caretakers, borders, and pet sitters who are held
accountable very similar to the same cases in which I
know Nicki and Josh would be held at fault as
they had our cat under their care and supervision with
our permission, when we were away at work. If this
were one of their dogs that had occurred to under
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our watch, Josh and Nicky would have been equally as
upset and distraught and rightfully wanting reimbursement and penance or
heaven forbid. If this was a child of ours under
the watch, this would be a horror, and I'm sure
I would be in jail. I'm a mix of emotions
typing this late at night while sick in bed with
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a cold, beside my fiance who is asleep for a
couple hours before he starts deliveries.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
We are so.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Overwhelmed and overworked and overstressed, having been working NonStop since October.
I just hope we find our starter home soon to
begin our new chapter, and for our little gremlin so
that she can run around and look outside windows whenever
she'd like without us having to worry if someone left
out potentially harmful things that shouldn't be left out. If
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you read this far, I appreciate your patience in doing so.
You're so welcome. I don't know what else to say
or how to explain everything wrong with the setup. I
am open to answering questions and hopefully giving any update
to those that are interested. Whooee, well there's an update.
But I have never read anything that long that wasn't
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like multiple updates. That was one post?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Where was this post?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
How did they get it through? Let this person write
this long booty post is right out?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Is this as bad as a bicycle guy? No?
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I think it was relevant information. It was just a lot.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
It was kind of bad, but no one's as bad
as one's as bad as that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, it was just like I feel like I was
talking to a doctor or maybe a vat. Yeah, you know,
they were like, this is what's going wrong with your cat?
But first to understand what's going wrong with your cat,
we must talk about where this all started, Josh and Nicky.
But there is an update. I think you just need to, like,
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sue Josh and Nicky.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Sue them, dude, you know how awkwuld be to sue them?
And they also live with you?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I wonder if that's so true.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Carpool to the courthouse real quick?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Can you? I mean like I don't see why not,
but can you sue someone that you're actively living with?
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Absolutely? Yeah, it is for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, is there any sort of conflict of I guess
maybe that's.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
For I'm in court with Christian right now. Well, yeah,
how's that going?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I need to give my lawyer figured out. I was
going to represent myself because you know, I'm a pretty
good lawyer. Uh, chatchbt and me I can figure out anything, anything, dude.
But uh, I stole an egg without its permission, and uh,
we're figuring that out.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
WHOA, Yeah, there's no eggs anywhere.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
No eggs, and he had so many. I was like,
can I have one? And then I took it and
didn't have his permission and he found out found out.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
But there is an update. Get into it if you've
read my first post. That's the first long post that
is an understatement bff's turn Roommates now a big regrets
on the situation regarding my growing disaster of roommates drama.
This is my first update so far for it. Right
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before Smiths and the Holidays, Nikki twenty eight female and
I twenty eight female finally had a much needed girls
only one on one time to talk and catch up.
I gave up trying to ease a conversation with her
at home when Josh would make it difficult for her
to be open with me whenever he was present. I
took initiative and I messaged her to set up a
time and place to talk that worked with our schedules.
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We got together, excited for a Friday night girls dinner.
Once together, we addressed so much and openly talked about
the apartment dynamics and tension. It was such a great
four and a half hour long hangout. Wow, goodness, gracious,
not really chatted.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I could do four and a half hours with some people.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
I mean most of my friends hang out for like
four and a half hours. Do what There's tons of things.
What do you mean? How long do you hang out
with your friends?
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Like? An hour? No? Forty three minutes? Yeah, and no longer?
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Oh long, no shorter? That's all I get.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, how long does it take to consume three steaks consecutively?
That is the time.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
That is the only time I get to hang out
with my friends.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I'm spending. I'm like, I'm spending like half.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
A day with my friends. What is that in steak time?
Please measure the grilling part or just the eating part.
It's like six steaks from season to digestion.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Are they frozen before him.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
No, no, that's important. They're already thought.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
It was such a great four and a half hour
long hangout that it really showed how much I missed
being able to talk with Nikki like this since Josh
arrived in September. It was also a sad reminder of
how big of a problem it is with them and
why it shouldn't be this difficult to talk with someone
I was once so very open with.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I think we're gonna get a lot more about Josh Henerson,
That's what I'm saying. I'm like, what's the tea on him?
Speaker 2 (48:51):
It seems like he's a little bit I mean more
than a little bit, but like abused with Nikki really yeah,
like the fact that she doesn't feel open, you know,
to talk to Opie. It seems like she's always trying
to kind of cover for Josh's behavior and she's like, oh,
it's okay, like just get him this, and she's always
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you know, you know, like doing whatever Josh needs.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Am at a minimum emotionally.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yes, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't have any
proof of like anything physical, but like emotionally it seems
I aired my worries and grievances to NICKI regarding how
difficult this it has been trying to get to know
this new version of Josh, who I now consider a
complete stranger with understandable problems to a point, and is
now not a person I see as a friend. At
this time, I shared honest opinions and thoughts with her
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when she asked, and her vice versa with me. No
feelings were hurt, and obvious relief that we could be
open with each other was very evident. It was so
great to hear Nicki acknowledge that there are many things
wrong she needs to address, and there are things that
Josh needs help with. NICKI one hundred percent agreed Josh
needs therapy and really needs to work on himself, as
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she herself is feeling drained being the only person he
talks to about anything and everything. Nicky knows that she
cannot fully help without bias with him. She openly said
how tired she is of being the middleman when problems
arise for them. Yeah, she's having to do everything for Josh.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Okay, I know we're about to go, but like, how
how many months of therapy can Josh go to before
we break up with them?
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Well, it depends on how effective therapy is.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Forty consecutive state consumptions of therapy.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, just just forever.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Like if he's going for three months and we're seeing
like improvement, is that good? Or like if he's going
for three months and it's still the same person.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
I think, yeah, you absolutely break up with him. M Yeah,
because like if he's not even changing, Come on, Then
we got to the serious topic. I really wanted an
update and reason for are you both able to help
reimburse us for some or all of our cats Kremlin
emergency build? If so, what works for you? And why
(51:03):
haven't you given us an update? And if not why?
Nicki explained to me that she had talked to Josh
a few days after our big sit down altogether back
in November. She brought up to him what my fiance
twenty nine mail and I asked. According to her, Josh
initially said, no, she's not our cat and not our problem,
but you caused the problem. Never forget the secret geriatriccrats.
(51:28):
Those are his problem.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
After persuading him to understand more of why it was
principally right to help pay us back some or all
of it, Nicki reminded Josh how it was their fault
our cat gremlin got into the cold medicine that they
had left out for days while under their supervision and care.
Only then did Josh finally agree that they would pay
us back once they referring mostly to NICKI than about them.
(51:54):
Both have better jobs to make those payments.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
I don't I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Don't like that.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
There's literally no guarant you might be stuck in your
freaking douchy job for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
And I got no, no, no, you gotta keep giving
me money. And you're also freaking living with us, and
like we're giving you all of this help and stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, us some money. But what I do?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
What like, Okay, I understand you can't you make payments?
Just a little financial audit. Yeah, what are we paying where? Oh,
we's cancel that and pay that to me. Just something
like fifty bucks something, Just a little.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Bit, you know how we cut costs?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Get rid of the rats oo.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Or yeah. I was gonna say get rid of Josh,
but that wouldn't help.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
It probably would help sell the rats Josh the geriatric
secret rat market, and Josh too, because he's basically a
secret geriatric rat himself.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
You know how much those secret geriatric rats would go, dude,
with some good marketing behind it. Shoot million, Yeah, we've
already got We already have a cover for them.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
We really do.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Nikkish, she heard me she would be more than willing
to start paying us back in monthly payments starting next
month of the new year. I accepted her offer, wanting
to do this, saying we would be fine with two
hundred and fifty dollars per month for four months for
the partial reimbursement, which is what my fiance and I
were fine with, or have payments for the entirety done
in six months of four hundred dollars per month. Nikki
(53:22):
adamantly said she wants to pay for the whole thing,
which is again about three K. Well, it's been a
week into January of twenty twenty five and she is
not communicated with me about her payment, nor tried sending
one alongside their dues for rent. In fact, she asked
for an extension on their half for rent and utilities. Yeah,
(53:43):
now they can't even pay rents.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
That sounds about mother frickin'.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Righte saying she needs to wait until Josh is paid
for them to be able to make payment. Neither I
or my fiance can understand where their money is going
that they cannot even do a base rent of their
half of one k flat. But I digress lye Between
September and now, too much has happened with very little
effort for them to fix it with us or make amends.
(54:08):
Too many small instances of microaggressions and purposeful incompetence, mainly
from Josh the NICKI has been making this living situation
nearly impossible to finish our lease with them, just like
say no, you can't have an extension, like you have
to pay it or you have to leave. Just put
your foot down, man, and.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
You probably find better roommates. Oh a victim, you get
better roommates.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Absolutely. With being nearly two point five to three k
down and behind schedule of our plans and saving up
for our first home or wedding because they got our
cat nearly fatally ill, I am researching small claims to
see if it was even worth pursuing. Most of our
local Pine friends agree that we should not let this
go lightly and attempt small claims. Some of our family
(54:55):
members are saying we shouldn't keep pursuing as Josh and
NICKI will still more than likely not pay, and that
this has already broken our trust and my friendship with them. Yeah,
to which I agree. My friendship with Nikki is fractured
and keeps being so, and any chance of her new
friendship with Josh is non existent. Now if we still
(55:15):
somehow are able to reach our goal to have a
down payment towards our first home ready with pre qualifications
and loan needs met, I am heavily considering going no
contact with Josh and low contact with Niki. I don't
even want them to know where we may potentially live.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
What I thought, Wait, sorry, hide it hide, don't do
not tell them where you live, don't do it.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
Facts.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
I think it's just saying like, whenever we are able
to move out and just not going to talk to
these people.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
I ever again got it, But they are already doing
that kind of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Well, I mean they stop to talk to them because
they live with them.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
But sorry, Also, would be really hard to hide your
address from them, because what do you have mail? Where
you're going to tell them?
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Afford it to eat the mail?
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, with A being a strong but happily accepted option
A celebration later with family and close friends is being
thought of two. But I will not extend that invitation
of celebration to Nikki and Josh. I feel like they
had a window of opportunity to really make amends with
us about this and work through this, and they did
not take it, nor do so seriously. They literally have
(56:21):
taken advantage of our friendship and have ruined a lot
of opportunities for themselves coming here to join us in Pine.
My fiance and I are still working ot on our
side job slash gigs in our downtime from our full
time jobs. I work one hundred hours a week twenty
hours of otee at my job, then an additional twenty
to forty hours with my side business.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
What like there are one hundred and sixty four hours
in a week.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Right, yeah, that is like, oh, you are a barely
sleeping right now? How are you?
Speaker 3 (56:54):
How are you traveling?
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Maybe she's counting? That is she maybe counting the time
when she like cat sits and like probably no idea,
I don't know, dang girl.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
My fiance works his forty to forty five hours a
week with this side business as an additional twenty to
forty five hours. Yeah, that's a little bit, I mean,
still crazy, but yours is insane.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
Let's look that does big.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Feeling stressed is an understatement right now, as not only
do we need to stay on top of what happens
at work and our own payments and dues, but we
are practically the maids or apartment cleaning fairies, as my
fiance likes to half heartedly joke of a shared space,
trying to keep this place livable and hygienically safe for
all of us to be there. We both don't feel
(57:38):
like going back home after working all day or night.
We don't like leaving our cat shut in our room
all the time even if we are home, and we
have really given up on making efforts to befriend or
be cordial to Josh. When nothing is reciprocated with this update,
I constantly wonder, am I the A whole? Would I
(57:58):
be the A hole? What else can I do? I
hope to have a more positive update slash post later,
maybe in the next couple of weeks or months, even
if no one has been reading my situation. I feel
some stress relief being able to share what's happening to us.
So thank you to those that have read this and
there is another update. Uh, hold on, it seems like
(58:24):
it so it seems like, OHP and her partner have
found a new place nice and they're slowly gathering their
things to move out. Uh, and they're trying to figure
out what they should do in terms of like should
they break the lease, should they wait until the lease ends? Naturally,
I think Ope wants to kind of do the like
(58:46):
pay pay the bet bell themselves and take them to
small claims court. It seems oh wow, yeah, fact, yeah,
And that's kind of it.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Just tying above on it like a whole. Does she
make the right.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Moves only for making us read this long story a
whole for making us read it.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Not an a hole in other aspects?
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah, No, I would say, not an a hole for
like anything that you're going about in terms of trying
to break the least or trying to get them out
or making them pay for the cat. But I would
say just in the future, when you have friends who
are clearly not really don't have their life sorted out,
maybe don't live.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
With them sometimes whenever, like we made this whole situation
in the house workout, I'm kind of baffled that it
worked out so well, so well, because we read stories
like this of people getting together and it's just horrible. Yeah,
and I'm like, we're working, living and partying together, and
it just seems like.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
One of my best friends.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
I'm glad I'm one of your best friends.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
And we just still and we live together and we
work together.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
Yeah, Sophia is definitely my best go to girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Right here, like like kind of like an added thing there.
I'm just saying, well, like honestly, just say I'm one
of your best friends.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Top three heck, yeah, I'm not gonna order them, but yeah,
top three, well, now we'll top five for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
There's so many construct we got.
Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
We got two of my best in the room.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Top three.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah, I don't even take to top five.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I'm blessed to be here with. I'm just glad it
worked out coming to California. Yeah. Oh anyways, but still,
this is crazy that they just became nightmares.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah sucks.
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Three nightmares. I'd say, like, just don't do it. There's slots, yeah, anything,
they're just.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Like, yeah, they just sit there and they're like they're teenagers.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Teenage that's the word, that's the word.
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within the Archives. Time for okop ree Lash. My husband
has been getting happy ending my massages for years. I
was gonna leave him. But here's the thing. The happy
ending massages are just like fairy tales, right, you know,
(01:01:07):
you you go down on the yellow brick road and
magic happens at the end of the rainbow. That's every
single happy ending. The magic is the yellow brick road
turned into the white brick road. Wow, that is beautiful, Sam, Oh,
guess what the secret ingredient is?
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Same?
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
All right, let's find out today. I found out that
my thirty two female husband thirty three male has been
getting happy ending massages for the last several years. He said,
it's only happened a couple of times. But nonetheless, it's happened.
It's it's only been a couple of times. Sam, Hey, ba,
it's like you're overreacting. You know, five or six times
(01:01:42):
a year you gave.
Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Me a happy ending massage, I wouldn't need to go elsewhere.
Or maybe if you got some happy ending massages, yeah,
free for all. There we go, We're all about it.
They can do couples, and they said they can do
a couples happy ending massages.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Hey has two hands, That's what I'm saying, an actual DJ.
I have had my suspicions for years, but I never
brought it up as I was not able to confirm
them years years.
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Could you imagine how many massages are you getting? I
mean just like five massages a year for like five years.
That's twenty five massages. I mean there's a lot of chances. Well,
I guess that when you say like that, it doesn't
seem like that much honestly.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Really, but that's like twenty five Imagine cheating twenty five
times in a five year relationship like that's easy. Those
a rookie number. Sam's love life just always getting blasted
on this podcast. I am very loyal, He's very very
all jokes. This is all jokes. Today I checked his
location to see if he was on his way home
(01:02:49):
from work, and I noticed that he was that a
massage parlor.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
So I thing it's like massage parlors is given to
happy endings every which way.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
You know. It's really a good question because like how
do they not get caught more? I guess I could
just get it under the radar.
Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
There's actually a massage parlor called Happy Ending Massage, like
right around the corner from my apartment.
Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Can I see your loyalty card? That's what I meant
by loyalty, by the way, exactly loyalty. I would never
go to another one, go to another Such a good
guy Andrew Tape. Now, I just called him to say
hey and check in. He told me that he's still
at work and will see me soon. Excuse me, No,
(01:03:33):
that's see me more like se men. Bro, Come on,
oh that's a whole different happy ending. That's happy tins.
I replied, really, and he said no, I met a
massage parlor getting a shoulder massage.
Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Bro. I think all like, like in this relationship, if
she's been that like suspicious for like years, they should
have had a conversation where it was just like, hey,
if you you you're banned from all the side.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Or at least like is this going on like years?
Like not knowing that would torture me, my god. So
I called him out on his light and I hung
up on him. Bam boom. Fast forward to him coming
home quickly to talk about this. I told him I've
had a suspicion for him quickly. But I told him
I've had a suspicion for years, but I could never
(01:04:28):
prove it after a few good points. What good points? Wait?
Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
No, he had points apparently like like in terms of oh,
it wasn't bab like, I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
I I a few good points. I guess, a few
rationalizations or maybe that's what he calls his boners during
his happy ending. I had a few good points in
that last sees he's he's racking up his loyalty rewards.
After all this, he sat me down and admitted he
has done this a handful of times, a headful, and
(01:05:03):
that's being generous. Buddy. In what world are you a handful? Seriously,
I think you're you're an arm load, my guy, as
much as an arms I'm saying you're a pinky load world.
I was saying, the amount of happy endings he's gotten.
I was saying in the the of the girth, the
(01:05:24):
girth of his weien you know, is a pink not
a handful, It's a pinky pinky, pinky ful thumbleful, a
thimble thimbleful. So I dropped the bomb on him and
told him I want to separate. Yep, good for you, queen. Yes,
you know, it only took you five only five years,
only a few years. I said this because I've caught
him in a few different cheating scenarios over our relationship. Girls,
(01:05:49):
you deserve better mess seriously, like varying from some flirty
text slash messages over social media, a physical encounter, and
a failed meetup. My god, Jean is either the worst
cheater ever or is putting up numbers, because it's like,
(01:06:09):
if those are the times that she's found out that
yeah below of cheating. Yeah, the cheating iceberg. Actually that's
a really good thing. Ladies and fellas, if you are
catching your partner cheating or of suspicious activity, just know
just the tip, just what's about the surface. There's a
(01:06:31):
lot below. Now. He has worked through these issues in
counseling over the last several years and has been in
a good place lately, So lying to me really caught
me off guard today.
Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
How has he been in a good place. Man, still
getting these massages. How many massages does one man need?
Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
You know, like you can only be so loose in limber, Yeah, yeah,
become putty.
Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
At some point it's gonna become a blog to his bones,
just dissolving, like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Imagine that one scene from Harry Potter where he's like
and then the bone. Now, he's been to a therapist
in the past who's told him he has an addiction
to doing it. Yeah, he does, yeah, but then there
was another therapist who said that he didn't and he
didn't have to worry. Okay, just keep going on doing
(01:07:25):
this the happiness, a little massage here, and he didn't
hurt anyone. He told me today that he needs help
because he feels ashamed of doing these things. But it
feels like he doesn't know what else to do because
it's an escape for him. I feel real bad for
this guy. This man deserves the most sympathy points. Oh
(01:07:45):
my god, any man, I know truly, like I mean Sam,
he would not be able to escape without this, He
would be trapped. What else would he do?
Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
You know, I have a sadd ending he would he
would he would build trains, he would have a hobby.
Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Disgusting, How could one ever imagine?
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
All right, here a question, question, question, Yes, would you
rather your partner have one like passionate love, affair full
like right full, terrible at where you can imagine, where
you can imagine? Or twenty five happy ending massages?
Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Oh my god, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have
to go with the one time because like the twenty
five is saying like something's wrong, like like if you
get I guess one is like out of your system
maybe and you're good, but like I don't know, twenty
five that's that's insane.
Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Okay, So I actually would go with the twenty five
really just because I feel like it's less emotionally evolved.
It's like remember, you know how like the nineteen fifties,
like the you would have these husbands or like my
wife is hysterical, right that, Like the doctor would be like,
all right, we have a secure for this, and it'll
literally just get a vibrator and like jerk women off
until the orgasm and they wouldn't be hysterical.
Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
And thought they just gave him tranquilizers.
Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
That too, but they also, like the doctor, like women
would go in for their like monthly checkup, which is
just like their monthly orgasm. And basically the doctors would
give them happy endings. They would be like like less hysterical.
Oh what, yeah, that's crazy the thing that happened all
the time.
Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
I would I would rather that kind of occurs that
it's just like a medical procedure, right right, Wow, damn.
Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
I never knew that maybe maybe that could we could
create a subscription of the modern day. You know what
I mean, happy endings doctor Yeah, doctor happy, and your
wife is having trouble, get it off, just call up
seven doctor happy, call doctor happy, not us. Those are
new names. Doctor Happy is the name of our subscription
(01:09:55):
service that we're going to be launching. And it's a
billion dollar business. I mean that Lookey would a billion
dollars to say. We got a lot of satisfied customers.
Whether we stay together or not, I am concerned. I
will still support him in any way I can to
help him, especially because we have children together. Oh yeah, bro,
(01:10:16):
we are going to support in any way by any
means necessary.
Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Okay, I think like, if you really want to support
him by any means necessary, open up your own massage
parlor and start cranking out those massages.
Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Boom, got those happy endings. Let's let's turn these lemons
into business lemonade, you know, and then he can get
a bunch of different clients, make a billion dollars, a
bunch of husbands in a family. It's gonna be beautiful.
I don't think he's a bad guy at heart. He
just has issues, very very uh open, very empathetic.
Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Yeah, maybe he is to have an open marriage. Maybe
that's that's maybe maybe, but like only open too happy endings.
Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Yes, there we go. Yeah. What I'm wondering is has
anybody dealt with this? And is there any and is
there any good first steps in helping with a situation
like this. We've done counseling, both individually and together, but
I feel like he needs a retreat or meetings or
a support system or something. How can I support him
through this?
Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Getting happy ending massages in a relationship is not necessarily bad.
If that is something that you have talked about, yeah,
if you want to, Yeah, yeah, what is bad here
is the lack of trust and the fact that he's
been lying for five years to your face and.
Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Doing having multiple other affairs. Ands.
Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
But like again, it's not like it's not the act
of like, yeah, like having somebody else, they're both down
for it. It's the it's the lying. And so I
feel like like like he should have been showing a
pattern of behater for like five years of like him
just not being the most truthful person, yeah, and not changing.
Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
But they have kids together. Yeah, but I mean, you
know it sucks. But like, at the end of the day,
I don't think I think you're putting this bearing this
weight on your shoulders, and I do not think you
have to bear all of that weight. I would still
get him help and support because he is the father
of your children. You want there to be a good
relationship there. But I think, like I would figure out,
(01:12:17):
like how can you be removed in a way where
it's like you have to worry about this less long term,
you know what I mean, find and find someone who
doesn't do this to you, Like I think that this
you don't deserve this. I'm also I'm wondering, like do
are they having sex?
Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
That's a good question because it's like is there enough
intimacy in the related marriage? Yeah, because I like, all right,
let's say you are saying like, oh, I want to
stay together with this guy, which I advise, but like
maybe the thing that like you have to take a
hard look at is Okay, if I do want to
stay in this, what does my intimacy look like? And
(01:12:55):
maybe how can how can we come to a place
where can be intimate together. Uh So he's not as
inclined to cheat, but like that feels like it's like
that feels like it's putting blame on her. Yeah, it's
like i'd work on her. Yeah, it's just like I
mean I think, like, really, she's like this guy is bad,
(01:13:16):
you know, like I don't know if it's it's worth
saving save.
Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Yeah. Usually we kind of just like, oh we'll give
a high level whatever, but this one, I'm like, bro,
leave his ass, Like, yeah, this is not this is
ultimately not your problem to bear. Help him where you can, Yeah,
get him into find like a support group or something.
Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
And then that's and then that's that he's in it
and he's doing and you want you want him to
be a good father still.
Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
To the children.
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Yeah, so but that doesn't this shouldn't come at her
expense ultimately.
Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
So, but I do understand, like when you have kids
complicate thing.
Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
But but at the end of the day, like Sam
just said, happy endings and marriages is okay? Yeah, frame editors,
frame a picture of Sam with that quote. And you
know what also is okay? Oh my god, what Sam
r slash?
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My best friend moved in with me but turned out
to be the worst roommate.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Out out, You're cast out, You're cast out.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Recently, my fiance twenty nine male and I twenty eight female,
have been living with our roommates Nicki twenty nine female
and her husband Josh, twenty eight male, since August of
this year. I have known Nicki since middle school and
Josh since high school back in mine and fiance's hometown,
Hell's Pit Stop HP. I feel like we were fooled
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into the situation that we put too much trust in
towards Nicki and Josh. By the way, this comes from
Topaz Scorpio ninety six, and if you want to spent
your own stories, just go to our slash Okay Storytime
subparate it. So for brief context, my fiance again twenty
nine male, and I twenty eight female, moved away from
our share hometown of HP in twenty eight eighteen, and
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since then that town has been declining steadily. My fiance
and I have accomplished so much, are finally done with
college academics, have finally gotten into full time careers, and
are ready to tie the knot and begin a family
here in our current city and my birthplace Pine. As
ready as we are, we have been diligently planning our
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finances and budget to make the next chapter come to fruition.
I work a full time job that utilizes my veterinary
medical knowledge, and I run a side business that I
network with my closest Pine friends. Been managing it since
May twenty twenty three. My fiance works with law enforcement
full time with his newly started side gig as a
delivery driver. We have very recently started to take in
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more overtime and side business reservations due to our recent
and ongoing roommate drama. Nicki and Josh were my closest
friends growing up in HP. Nicki and I have known
each other since middle school and Josh since senior year
in high school. Nicky and I share similar backgrounds of
family dynamics, and Josh came from a very toxic household
bathers a thug mother, dealt with substance abuse, and is
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now deceased three years ago. They met and started dating
around the same time. My fiance and I started dating
in twenty seventeen, married in twenty twenty one, and since
not left HP until this year in August. I got
engaged to my fiance in twenty twenty two, and we
were hoping to be married by next November now that
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we're done with school and have careers lined up. However,
that may not happen due to current circumstances that will
require us to allocate our finances differently.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Uh oh, that's stuver good.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Just start. Nicky and Josh were experiencing a horrible landlord,
had terrible roommates, We're having low job prospects and growth,
and were overall not very happy with quality of living
in HP for a good while before summer started. After
they visited for my graduation this past May, Nicki and
Josh were really impressed by Pine. Nicki and I were
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in touch more often, and she would say she wished
she could be there or able to leave her hometown
to start anew and give her and Josh a fresh start.
Within June, we were all passing back and forth the
idea of helping Nicki and Josh join us in Pine
and we would be in a win win situation as
roommates that could help both parties launch forward with the
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respective goals in the next year or so. We were
all so invested in the idea that my fiance and
I made sure they simply understood that they are one
going to have to adjust to different seasonal climates and
we would help teach them.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Two average California. Why isn't cold and wet on the ground?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
He know?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Doo gold Number two, be on top of handling their
two small dogs, including household behaviors and socialization with our cat.
To please not adopt any more pets. They have geriatric.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Rats, geriatric rats really old rats.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We have a geriatric host that do that, right, I
mean technically yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
If you're making a joke, you did nail it. Good job.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And we cannot add more due to the cost of
pet rent or risk of being fined. I don't know
what number I'm on. Five, help maintain a clean home
so as to avoid injury or illness for ourselves and
our pets. And six simply be very open with communications
with us about anything. As my fiance and I do
work a lot and want to make sure we all
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get along or if home problems arise. When I tell
you we accomplished a ton and a short amount of time,
I mean it. My fiance and I made arrangements to
transfer our lease at our complex. I help Nikkey by
paying for one of the dogs, but the best temperamentt
to be an ESA animal, partially to avoid having it
rehome due to the complexes limit. And I notified our
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local Pine friends for jobs for job leads to help
Nicky and Josh to start applying asap. Nicky and Josh
were to focus on ending their lease, job situations, and
other tasks in HP. This was all done in June
to July.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
That's what is this too much?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We're getting a lot of.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Details, A lot of information, Yeah, a lot of information.
It seems like what's just to condense it. It seems
like Ope and their partner have these two friends who
they grew up within their hometown, and their hometown kind
of sucks and so Op and partner no HP HP.
Op and her partner moved to Pine, which is a
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lot better. And we're talking to their friends, Nicky and
I believe Josh. Yes, Nicky and Josh and Nicky and
Josh were like, wow, Pine sounds great, and they talk
a lot about it, and eventually they decide Nicky and
Josh are going to move in. But they're like, hey,
there are some ground rolls. Just gotta be really careful
about the weather. There's gonna be some stuff that you're
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not used to, wets you have they have, Josh and Nicki,
and so there's just a bunch of pet stuff that
has to be figured out.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
It's a lot of stuff, a lot of.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Rules and things that need to be figured out before
Nicki and Josh can move in. And that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Got an ICU. Also, if there's anything that's like not pertinent,
we have a lot of words in this story, a
lot of words. Would you do best, guest?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And fast forward August, we transferred our lease from a
studio to a one year lease in a two bed,
two bath apartment with the complex we've been living in
for the past three years, best place to be quiet
and most affordable in a university town. Nicky and Josh
had to be convinced that this was a big money
saver two K plus savings compared to getting a whole
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new lease at a new place with high accompanying deposits
and fees. Josh really griped about it, as he wanted
a more upscale luxury apartment which was at a higher
cost less space and charge rent fees for pets and parking. Yeah,
the rats, but also I don't know if Josh can
really be saying I want a better place. Like the
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whole point of them moving in with Op and her
partners that they can't afford it. It's like, why are
you trying to get a more expensive.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I have no money, but I want to live in luxury.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
With It took some encouragement and reminders that luxury is
not a need, but it could be achieved later if
that's what they want. It seems like Op and her
partner are like life coaches for Nicky and Josh like this.
We would help them learn how to budget and adjust
living styles the best we can. That rewards back generously.
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NICKI was all on board with whatever it took and
was very much looking forward to it. But it should
have been a warning sign with Josh in how reluctant
with almost everything we had to do.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
He was.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
At the beginning of August, Nicky came up with the
dogs and Secret Rats first.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Another secret rats rat That's that's here some sgr.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, So Nicky came up with the rats, the Secret
Rats and the dogs first first. After resigning from her
part time job in HPOS, Josh was to follow in
September once he was able to exit his full time
job with a big payout. Both worked in the same business.
I cannot begin to express how enjoyable, peaceful, and fun
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it was to have only Nicki that whole month. She
was a team player. She and I would cook with
and for each other nearly every evening. We love to
cook and try new foods. Nicky was more inspired and
driven to do and try anything in her job search.
She was even considering returning to healthcare services or seek
a new path in it foreclosure due to pass traumatic
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experiences from HP. She joined us in a few local
event outings, got to meet again with one of my
closest Pine friends, and was really branching out and.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Networking doing great.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Nicki's killing it with those rats. Nicki, in simplest of
ways of saying it, was hopeful, happy and striving to
really make the most of this new start. She was
learning to be comfortable with her own company and would
talk with Josh at the end of every day as
it was their first time ever having to be apart
longer than a day.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Quick sidebar, but this is like probably the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Why yah, secret, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's fire. Yeah, that's fire.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
This reminds me of the Great Mouse detective.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So I'm talking about Oh you are hmm, No, I'm
thinking of the Orange Stillson. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah. I also was thinking about that for a moment.
But yeah, but there also is the Great Mouse.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Dude, this is a movie. I don't know about a man,
but we should make a movie yet.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Nicky was tapping into her arts and crabs. I encouraged
her to have fun with and see potentially as her
own side gig with Etsy and local craft market slash Faares.
I was so happy to see her making healthier choices
for herself in making changes to her lifestyle. She had
a serious health scare before coming up to join us
that leaves me still worried for her about having a
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potential stroke, thrombosis, ambolism, and more at such a young age.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh no, then, like.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Most things that almost seem too good to be true.
Josh arrives a week later into September, and things immediately
take a downward spiral.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
In all my years of having known my two friends,
I feel like I am now living with a version
of Nikki I cannot fully trust, and a total agg
hohole of shadow version of Josh who Nicki is now
completely opposite of how she was in August, reverting back
to old habits and being completely submissive to Josh, with
no backbone to stand up for herself her needs and
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what is principally right and wrong of Josh's actions and
behavior here. As for Josh, I know he still mourns
in his own way the tragic loss of his mom.
I deeply believe he needs to see a therapist to
deal with his childhood, his grief, his current family dynamic dynamics,
and seek help for his harsh negative adjustment in personality
to these I get that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But why have a therapist when you have Jerry Atric rats?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Also, you should either have us in your life or
secret Jerryatric Yeah, forgot the secret part. Sansy arrived at Pine,
he's been behaving as if he didn't want to join
us in Nicky, been ignoring us when we greet him,
or barely acknowledging us when Nicky is present, and definitely
lazy and incompetent to the simple aforementioned agreements. We made
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dirty dishes and cookwear after using the kitchen, leaving food
stuff out, not keeping up with their dogs or disciplining
them when they act up or make a mess. Except
for our bedroom area. Their dogs have peede almost everywhere else,
Oh my god, that would piss me off. And on
carpet to where it is stained, for not being promptly
or properly cleaned, pooping on the floor and couch, being
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highly reactive to anything outside, et cetera, and being problematic
when invited to social gatherings. We started to keep to
our room shortly after Josh's behavior when attending a social outing.
In celebration of her not dying from a near fatal
heart complication, my friend Bailey hosted a death ofversary dinner
at her home in September. She extended the invitation to
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Nikki and Josh for them to join and see everyone again.
That's an interesting party. Wait deathniversary that she didn't pass away?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
This friend Bailey.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Front of Bailey. Okay, well huh uh sure I thought
that that might be an alve aversary or something. Hey,
you know, just sday it takes. I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
My cat's name is Karen says, why take these people
on like this? Opie never should have sabotaged her life? Yeah,
really quickly pausing. It does seem like like Opie's kind
of shot talked by all of this. But we already
kind of knew that they were, you know, not doing
necessarily that great, didn't have a lot of life skills,
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because it seemed like opean her partner were teaching them
a lot. Yeah, so it's like we already knew they
were pretty behind and pretty like needy. So I feel
like some of this stuff should have been a little
bit expected.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Why, Like I think there's you know, it's great to
be able to help help friends with different things and
if someone's like, oh, hey, like you've got it all together,
like show me a ways whatever, great, beautiful, get some coffee.
Do they have to live with you and you be
there like free like life coach. Yeah, don't need that,
you don't need to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, they can still want to move to Pine without
having to live with you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Thing go.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Bailey further mentioned me how her husband, who started his
own business, would be interested in getting to know Josh
better and potentially hire him as an apprentice.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh oh, no, there we go. I don't know if
I like that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Nicki and Josh accepted the invitation to join us. I
wish they hadn't and save Bailey the hassle that was
about to follow. We arrived at the party, giving notice
to Bailey we'd be an hour late due to work
the fours. The four of us walked in to see
folks enjoying a meal, conversations, games, and Bailey's kids up
to Shenanigans. Greeted with the group, Hello and grab some
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food while it's hot, and we came in and made
ourselves comfortable. Nicki and Josh immediately secluded themselves to a
corner on the sofa, Josh on his phone and Nicki
crocheng her hobby. Neither would speak to anyone who came
to join them on the couch trying to make conversation,
nor did they try Bailey in her husband's food or chili, cornbread,
mac and cheese and.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Chips with dip.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There's a feast over there, and they're not even in
get in on it. They're not ean. I had to
prompt Nikki to try a bowl of food and join
us at the table for some conversation. Josh refused to
try any saying he doesn't like what they made and
was fine on the couch. This did add insult to
injury with Bailey and her family. Bailey's husband is a
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good cook, and since her close encounter, Bailey has been
supported by us and her family in trying healthier foods
with her and for her heart. We've all tried recipes
with her at get togethers, and they've all been delicious
so far that you wouldn't tell if it was vegan
slash vegetarian. Nice Nikki joined everyone briefly with food and
then quickly retreated back to where Josh was still not
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moved or indifferent from his closed off posture with his phone.
Bailey tried to offer to get something for Josh when
going out to pick up some dessert in town. He
barely acknowledged her and didn't answer, why is he being such.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
An a hole? E?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
He's like, hey, yeah, no, I'll be him.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
You be okay? Oh, I know you bem, I'll be.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Okaya, Hey, I know you didn't eat earlier, Josh, So
I just wanted a head at the store. Do you
want to do? You want me to grab anything? No
trouble at all. I just you know, okay, I was
thinking maybe I could grab you know, a little sandwich.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Ah okay ah and see and see it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
There he goes, he's kind of giving like Frankenstein. Yeah,
well Frankstein's.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Monster true important distinction.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He barely acknowledged her and didn't answer. So I went
up to Josh and asked what it would be that
he would like to have with us, since he didn't
want to eat or drink anything and does not partake
in drinking booze. When he was even being quiet to me,
Nicki quickly said for him, so did our Coca Cola
with suffice. I related that to Bailey, who quickly got
it with dessert for everyone. Josh refused to even have
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any of that. Bailey was offended and quietly gave up
trying to host them. This is so rude, so wack,
so whack. It feels a bit like Nicki is kind
of I mean, Pete kind of said it before, but
she's trying to you, you know, appease whatever Josh wants.
And it's a bit like silenced and subdued, especially especially
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because we know how she was acting before Josh got there. Yes,
so it does feel like not a healthy relationship.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Feels like it very unhealthy. Dare I say, more unhealthy
than a a just like skindded bone shivering, jeriatric secret,
secret rat secret. Dare I say I think you should?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Dare I think you should?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Dare unhealthy?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
The evening continued on for two hours, and not once
did either Nikki or Josh make a peep or attempt
to join the rest of the party. Why are they
even there? What are they getting in pine that is
better than HP? I guess kind of like free life coaches,
but they're not even taking their advice?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Also true.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Nikki only came up to me once to ask if
I could unlock the car for Josh to grab his
game boy slash ps from her bag. What in the
iPad kid is going on here?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
M talk about it?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Nothing was in her bag, so I used this as
a way to ask her quietly if she would like
me to take her and Josh home, as I could
tell they didn't want to be there so astute opie. Yeah,
Nicki insisted we all stay, that she was having a
good time and that Josh was fine slash having a
good time. We stayed, but soon left after being there
for an additional thirty minutes. It was the most silent
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and awkward drive home ever. My fiance and I tried
to make small talk and engage them about the party,
explaining Bailey's deathversary story to them. Yeah, also kind of
like a meaningful party that they're just dunking on.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You're so right, You're yeah right.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Nicki was the only one interested and genuinely curious. Josh
only sighed with exaggerated boredom the whole time. He sounds
like a little like teenager. He sounds like a moody
teen He's playing his video games and he's like, I
don't want anything.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It doesn't taste good, such like like eight year old energy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Just since then, my fiance and I began to keep
to ourselves. We began to take on a lot of
work in our careers and made long reservations for clients
to care for their homes and pets. We have a
return home and spend time with our cat, Gremlin my
nickname for her to avoid being insulted by Josh with
his jokes. These jokes at first started off as friendly
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roast of us finally being home, but then they quickly
started to be rude as they insulted how long we
had to work or be away, insinuate that we neglect
our cat, make horrendous jokes that we were racially or
bigoted too much and too often, and like to pick
on my fiance's computer setup. We don't have much as
we hope to save household things for our planned home
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owning goals.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Why are they Josh sucks.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Josh freaking sucks.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Take them out, Oh, Peter.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Fiance tried, like did so much to help Josh and
Nicky and are receiving just just vitriol, just terrible, terrible behavior.
My fiance was the first to have enough of it
and would retreat to our room and avoid Josh after
working a long day with difficult people. I started to
do the same, especially when returning from an overnight gig
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that kept me away for days or weeks. Our room
became our safe haven. I began to cook less food
as Josh wouldn't eat it, and nick fell and NICKI
fell back into habits of them eating out nearly every
day for every meal. I stopped altogether come November.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Why are you making meals for him? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
What do you mean this isn't your child. I mean
he is a child of a man, but it is
not like four child.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
It seems like, oh, he's like, oh, I you know,
I stopped cooking altogether. But it's like, no, you can
keep cooking for yourself. Just say, I'm not cooking for you.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Guys, this is your house. You invited them in, Sophia.
Would you would you ever let a Josh stop you
from cooking of whatch you love? Now that's a no.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Also, if you wanted to make some money, be like, hey,
if you guys want me to cook for you, it's
gonna cost X more months, so you have to pay
X and rent in order to get the service.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Exactly. We would try to greet Nicki and and or
Josh with little response. The times we would be in
the living room to hang out would be brief or
to enjoy our cat and their dogs playing together. How
quickly even that pastime fell into eternal sleep, alongside with
how our cat nearly fell into a turtle sleep from
Nicki and Josh's negligence. Oh no, our little Gremlin, as
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she is so nicknamed for being a sassy tortoiseshell that
loves to play pranks and play NonStop, got along so
well with Nicki and Josh's dogs, as they would play
and chase each other, hang out in the living room
when my fiance and I were home, and that Gremlin
would enjoy lounging around with them. We asked Nicki and
Josh to supervise play between our pets when we were
not home when away at work, not to let Gremlin
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thinks she can be on the kitchen counters or dining
table as she does know better, and to make sure
she and the dogs don't get into anything that'll hurt them.
Simple rules, you would think, so simple rules hold them.
We gave permission for them to let Gremlin out of
our room to be with them and the dogs in
the rest of the apartment. I guess that was simply
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too much to ask and expect of them.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
In October and shortly before Halloween, Nikki and Josh returned
from a road trip. Josh was recovering from an altitude
and do sinus congestion slash head cold and brought back
liquid cold medicine in a ziplock bag for three days.
Josh had left that bag out on the kitchen bar top.
I failed to see this due to me and my
fiance having to work our side gigs that kept us
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away overnight for a few days and we never went
into the kitchen in avoidance of Josh. I meal prep
every week and we keep meals in our workplace fridges
and at my overnight gigs, hence no need for us
to enter the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Ooh, does Josh like take like food? Why did they
do that?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think maybe to avoid him?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, I think they just literally don't want to see
Josh nicky.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Like it almost sounded like I stopped cooking because it's
like if almost fears that there's this expectation if op
he's cooking in the kitchen, then he's gonna want to
get some food or something, which she feels compelled.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Which is weird though, because it seems like Josh isn't
even eating it. Like Opie said, he's not even eating
the food.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So dude, what's going on going on?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Unbeknownst to my fiance and I until the morning of
the fourth day, our cat came into contact with the
cold medicine while unsupervised during play with the dogs, But
the kitty doesn't have a cold, which it goes against
like three of the rules they had, one not supervising
the dog and the cat, two letting the cat onto
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the counters, and three letting the cat get into things
that it's not supposed to. That night before, Nikki messaged
me to tell me Gremlin was acting grumpy, slushberry upset,
and I'd given her a hard warning Nip to leave
her alone, and not knowing and thinking Gremlin was being
off due to hairballs of her winter coke growing in,
I said for Nicki and Josh to leave her alone
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and put her back in our room. That following morning,
my fiance went to change clothes for work and found
Gremlin surrounded by vomit, acting needy and vocalizing and lying down.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh not good.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
He called me while I was at work in a panic,
sending me a video of how she was behaving. On
his way out, my fiancee told me he had bumped
into Nikki and explained the situation to her, but she
was more concerned about one of her dogs. Having a
reverse sneeze.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What does it even mean? It's so dogs will do
this thing. It's like it's like it's a reverse Kniez.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Basically, Then about why our cat was so sickly that
he went into work as he couldn't call out. But
my work let me leave early so that I could
promptly get her in to see the vet as soon
as I could. Knowing this was urgent. Gremlin was stable
enough for me to come home and pick her up.
I found her in our room with more vomited bile,
signs that she had not eaten from her auto feeder
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in the last twelve to eighteen hours, and her lying
lif nateral and vocalizing to me her discomfort. Gums were
pale and tacky, her heart beating so fast from stress. Oh,
she wouldn't even accept her favorite snack for me to
gauge her interest in food. Once at the vet, we
went back and forth over what it could be, pancreatitis, colitis, gastritis, constipation,
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or even unknown undiagnosed IBD.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Or rental disease. Don't like.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah those all sound terrible. Yeah. Once Gremlin could be
sedated for her fear, aggression and pain, I ordered baseline
bloodwork and X rays to be done. While we waited,
her VET and I further discussed what she may have
gotten into. I admitted to the vet that Kremlin is curious,
loves to explore and check out things by touch, taste,
and scent, so she could have gotten into something left
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out or within her reach, not within our bedroom. Upon
the vet's recommendation, searched the apartment for what could be
the likely cause. With the baseline established, it was seen
that Gremlin had an abnormally enlarged spleen, a drop potassium
level shot to hell, a peculiar fusion around her heart,
and was very dehydrated.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wow, a lot going on with this cat, so many details.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We have geriatric rats and a very sickly cat. Very
sickly cat who kimberly finds his dark gums lack of oxygen.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, the gums tell all.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I didn't know that. As her symptoms were so on
set under twenty four hours, it was unsure what to
do and what to risk. I had the option of
keeping her hospitalized there, but she wouldn't have a tech
with her and the money for it was not worth it.
One point five K plus per twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yep, over fifteen yep. Dang, that's about right.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Because of that, or transferring her to another vet clinic
that offers staffed overnight hospice three K plus a day.
Oh my god, it was all becoming costs. I knew
we couldn't afford on top of our additional debt. After
weighing the facts known, then with my cat's results, what
I knew and what could be done and the risk,
I got my cat stabilized with supportive care and took
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her back home. I had my fiance take over my
gigs for me so that I could be with her
overnight and monitor. Once home, I got her comfortable in
her bed and put cat TV on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's nice, Oh that's cute.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That same afternoon, I searched the apartment high and low
for what she could have gone into. I had found
at first chlorox wipes and a disinfectant spray left on
the ground by the dog's crate situated by the front door. Well,
that's not a good sign.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Mmm, I don't like the sound of that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's a bad sign. When looking around higher up, I
found the zip lock bag on the counter, and boy
did I see the glaring true problem of why my
cat was being so sickly inside that bag was leaking
cold medicine. Bad bade bye bye bye bad. That same
bag I found to have evidence of my cat having
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bit the edges out of curiosity. Wouldn't have just put
away your medicine.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
We just close a bag and place said bag you know,
you know what, don't even close it, just just place it.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Out of reach, place it anywhere else. That's just crazy.
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Bro's about to run up ten thousand plus dollars with
medical bills. Yeah for this cat.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Ooh yeah, I saw red and felt so much rage
having found this out, feeling sick that this was within
a reach. I had no idea if Nicky and Josh
were home. It is difficult nowadays to tell, as they
always leave their dogs out unsupervised and their door shut.
Went away from work or home, which probably is not
great because these uh dogs are pea and everywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
True, they're like pee everywhere else except for our room.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, They're like, we close our door and then we
opened your door and let them pee there. I angry
cried on the kitchen floor for a good while before
I could text my fiance what I found. It took
every ounce of rationality and self control to not break
down their bedroom door and charge in screaming. But I
knew they wouldn't or take accountability if I did a
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rup like that on them. I knew how Nicki would react,
and how John would and how Josh would shut it down.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, hey, well don't pen this on me, John shutting
it down. I'm in a sent and have no geriatric.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Rats, not a single geriatric rat, not a single one insight.
I collected myself, calm down and set a message to
Nicki and Josh in our roommate chat that I needed
to talk to them about my cat and what was
going on. Put your foot down, Ope, put it down,
Put it down. Twenty minutes later, Josh returns home from
his work, ignoring and avoiding eye contact with me while
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I stand in the kitchen watching him walking straight to
their bedroom and shutting the door. Then they both emerge,
awkward and quiet. It reminded me of how my siblings
were nervous before scolding from our parents. I explained everything
to Nicky and Josh of what Kremlin was going through
and what I had just deduced it to what I
hope to be a very mild toxicity poisoning of a
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set of a meano fin a seed of metaphone, a
ceeda metaphin.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
What we're doing aceta menaphon, a seed of medaphone.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's a fun word that you came into contact with
by biting the ziploc bag they slash Josh had left
out containing leaked cold medicine that bursted from altitude change.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Also Kimberly found. Okay, maybe this isn't accurate, but Kimberly
find said, who the f keeps liquid cold medicine in
a bag?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
But it was well, first it seems like it had broken.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, right, and he maybe had the plastic bag around
it in case it did. Yeah, Okay, that's yeah, more understandable.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But it seems like we have just every one of
the rules that Op had set forth for Nicky and
Josh just completely ignored.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Because you know what, maybe uh, you know, we've all
been there unpacking. You leave things out maybe if you
get to put in the way. But have they been observant?
Had they just watched the cats?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, that's the thing. They left the cat they like,
Op said, Oh, you can either leave it in my room,
or let the cat out if.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You're you know, observing mentioned it. Yeah, just just completely
come on.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
The entire time I was speaking to them, only Nicki
maintained eye contact and concerned interest, while Josh stayed just
out of my line of sight towards their bedroom. He
sounds like a child. So so Nicky is here and
she's like, yeah, no, of course, I'm so sorry. And
then Josh is like in the background, he's like, yah, whatever,
I'm sure. He's like holding a geriatric round. He's like,
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my rats would never drink cold medicine.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Me and Gerald the secret geriatric rat are freaking over this.
Or Geronimo Geronimo Stilton.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Only when I showed Nicki the bag did she turn
to him and tell him to take his things and
put it away. After a brief snort to show he
didn't like that, Josh grabbed the bag and immediately started
inspecting it. This whole interaction in summary when as follows Jay,
she must have bitten the bottleneck and lid removes the
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two bottles to it. Mores closely me. Her mouth isn't
that big. She didn't chew on the bottle, and that's
not her habit with anything in a plastic bag with
cardboard boxes and bags. She nibbles on the edges to
enjoy how it crunches or feels, even rubbing her face
on them to scent mark. Jay, I doubt it, h Nikki, Honey,
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the bottle isn't chewed on. There's literally stuff all over
them from one leaking. There's liquid in.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
The bag, Dude. A cat opening a medicine bottle is
absolutely ludicrous.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
It's childlocked. I can hardly open a medicine bottle. Yes,
it's really difficult, dude. H Jay shrugs his shoulders and
puts the bottles in the sink, taking the one leaking open,
which hisses from air pressure. Me hear that that is
air pressure releasing. It has been slowly pushing the medicine
out since you guys came back a few days ago.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Jay.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Mmm, yeah, I guess, puts bottle back into the sink
and raises the zip lock bag up to the light.
What olds me point along the bag's edge to obvious
holes in the plastic holes. Jay then takes the ziploc
bag to fill in the kitchen sink with water.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Bag immediately fills and leaks from various holes around the edge. NICKI,
Oh crap, Jay.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well there's holes holes.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
There's holes in your brain, dude, so there's holes in
your brain. This is ridiculous. Why are they still living
with you? Why are they still here? I'm pissed off,
right me?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I told you.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Gremlin came onto the counter I'm supervised at some point
yesterday and bit the bag. She got some residue in
her mouth, and now she's sick. This conversation quickly ended
with him not saying anything or even an apology. He
went into the room and shut the door while Nicki
and I made sure nothing else was within reach for
the dogs to get into. That first night, I stayed
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up with Gremlin to make sure you pulled through. My
timetabled exactly when to medicate her. I had to take
her to another event with Eercare the second day after
her first visit, where she was further diagnosed with the
stressed induced UTI and put on more medication for two weeks.
She recovered slowly, and my fiance and I stayed secluded
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in our room when we could be home and shifts
to be with her. Our cat was on a soft
food diet for a month as she had a sophagitis
from the bile eroding and irritating the muscular layers of
her throat. Man, oh man, that cat has a lot
going on with it.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
This has got a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Just a psa about you know, not letting your cats
have access to coal medicine.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know, I've seen a lot of medical information about cats,
but this is I'm not a loss here, Yeah, not
gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, there's a lot of medical stuff going on with
this cat. You could fill your own Reddit post with
stuff true. Since the incident, Josh has avoided us and
ignored us as usual. Conversations with NICKI were strained. Even
at a sit down talk two weeks after the incident
to discuss what transpired and to confront the massive elephant
in the room. Josh put on a show and still
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did not apologize or show real repentance.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Dude to the streets, let.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Like kick him out, kick him out please.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
The rats are yeah the street keep.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, keep the secret geriatric rats, because I feel like
they'll bring you secrets or something. They'll fulfill their.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Duty exactly, their geriastric wisdom.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
In a more private conversation with Nikki, since she was
the only one I could be honest with and who
my fiance felt would be open to it. We asked
that she talked to Josh about reimbursing us for half
or all of the three K spent on Gremlin, which
I think is like, pretty fair because they are the
reason why the cat is so sickly.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, and they don't even care, don't care. It's so
avoidable all that.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Dude, if you really wouldn't get back at them cats
and rats, not.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
The geriatric rats. But they're a secret that the cats
wouldn't know. They can't possibly know about these geriatric rats.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
What if one of them is like, like the cat
is Tom and then it's Jerry the geriatric rat.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Whoa this is like when they're really old exactly. Nikki
agreed wholeheartedly that it was only right that they did,
but she would need to talk to Josh about it
first and let us know asap. Josh is gonna be like,
we don't know the money, this is ridiculous. Since then,
a whole month has passed with more occurrences. In the interim,
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Nikki has not given us any updates nor spoken to us.
She and Josh continue to leave a mess in the kitchen.
They are dogs, unsupervised and loose in the apartment, and
have made little effort to work with us. In between
maintaining the apartment. Between shifts collecting ot and working our gigs,
my fiance and I clean the apartment at night in
the late how hours early morning. We were paranoid our
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cat would relapse or have delayed health problems, but she
thankfully hasn't. That's good, thank God. How much did she
have of that cold medicine?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I mean, yeah, how much does it take to make
a cake get sick?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well, she was lapping at not much. I'm guessing like
a lot of the bottle spill to where it was
like pooling right on the bag. So if she kind
of just like got all that out, then she's done.
That's it. Like maybe like like half of like a
serving of those cups or something. Yeah, yeah, something like
that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Gremlin has since been kept within our room basically her
room now with everything she needs and when are both
of us being home with her every night? Nikki and
Josh no longer have permission to enter our room or
interact with her. Gremlin has not left our side and
avoids Josh when he happens to be out at the
same time as us. Gremlin only ever leaves our room
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when we are home to watch her. With my feelings
of betrayed trust and disgust and my fiance's anger towards Josh,
we have agreed to do whatever it takes to afford
our first home by next summer. With our jobs and
side businesses. You know, He's like, we need to get
out of here.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
M h wait they need to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
H well, so basically I think they went on They
went in on the like the cost of this place
that they're living at, yeah, with Josh and Nicki, and
so now they're like, okay, yeah, we can't live with
them anymore, so let's.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Get our place.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Let's use that to save up to freaking get our
own place and say see you later. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Man, If Nicky and Josh do not repay us, we
are considering telling them taking them to a small claims court.
We made plans to potentially forego a wedding with family
and friends and a lope. Yeah, I mean like you're
about to spend some money and also you spend three K.
So if you don't get that three k back, you
better go out fighting.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Come on. That's all I gotta say, come on.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
As much as it was becoming a fun plan b
to that milestone due to family drama, it now has
a solemn tone of its reality, adding on to her
anticipation and joy and soon becoming a husband and wife.
That's I mean, that's great, but it sucks that you
know your your joy is being somewhat damp dampened.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh one hundred. Also, not to add more details to
this story, but Prince ex did make a good comment.
A twenty five pound baby can only have five millileters.
That's like nothing. That's like just covering the bottom of
the plastic cups. So if a cat had that much
or dare I say more like two or three times
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that I'm out.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Not good, not good. I will be happy to marry
either way. But we wish this wasn't driven under these
collected circumstances. To add to my disgust and mistrusted, I
grieve for a friendship being lost with Nikki and what
no longer exists with Josh in any capacity. Our range
for Nikki and I to have a girl's night out
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before Christmas, something I know is much needed but necessary. Also, Riley,
what I need is a cup of water?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Please? The queen requires what thought is dying? How much
for a store? We got what?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
We're over halfway through?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Wow? We gotta.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah maybe seventy?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Nice? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
What are Let's take a pause because I read a
lot you d waiting for an update that never came.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's just a.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
You know what we do?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Gone? So my thoughts are that, yeah, they basically they
do need to get out as soon as possible. Yeah,
they should basically press charge, like I think they'll kind
of need to honestly, like, might as well just get
ahead of it at this point, because.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Well they've been so awful this whole time.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, and it's like you're not seeing the friendship. And
if you don't do that, then they can waffle around
and you know, kick the cane down there, or at
least Josh can. Maybe she goes like along with it too.
But I think you basically be like, yo, give us money,
will file the claim and then honestly potentially even see
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if you can get him kicked out sooner.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
I yeah, I would see, because like maybe there's something
with the lease that or you can break the lease
or get them to get out something. But I think
maybe the issue is that they can't afford the lease
all by themselves, so because that's why they want to
move into a like kind of a less expensive place.
What did you get?
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Hey, where's that from?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It looks it looks good? All about a Unicorse says
these people are the worst. Teach them a lesson, and
someone the characters that I am I can't read it
says they don't deserve to be pet parents if they're
disregarding Op's situation exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Oh heck no, exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
My cat's name is. Karen says they're going to have
to legally a victim, which will take months. So it
might like by the time that they go through that
whole process, which I'm assuming it would be expensive, the
least will probably be up. Anyway, Do we go for more? More?
Speaker 1 (42:22):
What like?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
We'll just eating and up? Which just round up to
ten grand.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Let's just do a sweet five k I don't even
know if they have two freaking pennies to rub together.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, I doubt I doubt they do. It doesn't seem
like they're really works so much.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Here we go here we go three k but Josh
has to volunteer at pet shelters making them happy.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, you have to do community service yep, because you
almost aren'nlived or cat I like that, and also teaches
them how to take care of pets, which he clearly
doesn't know how to do. But there's more to this story.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
You got this, do what you do best. Really let
go in.
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Speaker 2 (43:05):
We need to know what is going on. And if
Nicky was ever able to talk to Josh, I feel
like she will defend Josh regardless, which is disheartening to
think about. Yet it seems like she's pretty, you know,
subdued around Josh. I don't know what else to say.
I just had to vent it here. I understand I
may be the a hole and some Reddit subs, but
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I have read and witnessed enough animal negligence cases of
ignorant animal caretakers, borders, and pet sitters who are held
accountable very similar to the same cases in which I
know Nicki and Josh would be held at fault as
they had our cat under their care and supervision with
our permission, when we were away at work. If this
were one of their dogs that had occurred to under
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our watch, Josh and Nicky would have been equally as
upset and distraught and rightfully wanting reimbursement and penance or
heaven forbid. If this was a child of ours under
the watch, this would be a horror, and I'm sure
I would be in jail. I'm a mix of emotions
typing this late at night while sick in bed with
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a cold, beside my fiance who is asleep for a
couple hours before he starts deliveries.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
We are so.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Overwhelmed and overworked and overstressed, having been working NonStop since October.
I just hope we find our starter home soon to
begin our new chapter, and for our little gremlin so
that she can run around and look outside windows whenever
she'd like without us having to worry if someone left
out potentially harmful things that shouldn't be left out. If
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you read this far, I appreciate your patience in doing so.
You're so welcome. I don't know what else to say
or how to explain everything wrong with the setup. I
am open to answering questions and hopefully giving any update
to those that are interested. Whooee, well there's an update.
But I have never read anything that long that wasn't
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like multiple updates. That was one post?
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Where was this post?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
How did they get it through? Let this person write
this long booty post is right out?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Is this as bad as a bicycle guy? No?
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I think it was relevant information. It was just a lot.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
It was kind of bad, but no one's as bad
as one's as bad as that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, it was just like I feel like I was
talking to a doctor or maybe a vat. Yeah, you know,
they were like, this is what's going wrong with your cat?
But first to understand what's going wrong with your cat,
we must talk about where this all started, Josh and Nicky.
But there is an update. I think you just need to, like,
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sue Josh and Nicky.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Sue them, dude, you know how awkwuld be to sue them?
And they also live with you?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I wonder if that's so true.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Carpool to the courthouse real quick?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Can you? I mean like I don't see why not,
but can you sue someone that you're actively living with?
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Absolutely? Yeah, it is for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, is there any sort of conflict of I guess
maybe that's.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
For I'm in court with Christian right now. Well, yeah,
how's that going?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I need to give my lawyer figured out. I was
going to represent myself because you know, I'm a pretty
good lawyer. Uh, chatchbt and me I can figure out anything, anything, dude.
But uh, I stole an egg without its permission, and uh,
we're figuring that out.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
WHOA, Yeah, there's no eggs anywhere.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
No eggs, and he had so many. I was like,
can I have one? And then I took it and
didn't have his permission and he found out found out.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
But there is an update. Get into it if you've
read my first post. That's the first long post that
is an understatement bff's turn Roommates now a big regrets
on the situation regarding my growing disaster of roommates drama.
This is my first update so far for it. Right
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before Smiths and the Holidays, Nikki twenty eight female and
I twenty eight female finally had a much needed girls
only one on one time to talk and catch up.
I gave up trying to ease a conversation with her
at home when Josh would make it difficult for her
to be open with me whenever he was present. I
took initiative and I messaged her to set up a
time and place to talk that worked with our schedules.
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We got together, excited for a Friday night girls dinner.
Once together, we addressed so much and openly talked about
the apartment dynamics and tension. It was such a great
four and a half hour long hangout. Wow, goodness, gracious,
not really chatted.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I could do four and a half hours with some people.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
I mean most of my friends hang out for like
four and a half hours. Do what There's tons of things.
What do you mean? How long do you hang out
with your friends?
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Like? An hour? No? Forty three minutes? Yeah, and no longer?
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Oh long, no shorter? That's all I get.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, how long does it take to consume three steaks consecutively?
That is the time.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
That is the only time I get to hang out
with my friends.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I'm spending. I'm like, I'm spending like half.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
A day with my friends. What is that in steak time?
Please measure the grilling part or just the eating part.
It's like six steaks from season to digestion.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Are they frozen before him.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
No, no, that's important. They're already thought.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
It was such a great four and a half hour
long hangout that it really showed how much I missed
being able to talk with Nikki like this since Josh
arrived in September. It was also a sad reminder of
how big of a problem it is with them and
why it shouldn't be this difficult to talk with someone
I was once so very open with.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I think we're gonna get a lot more about Josh Henerson,
That's what I'm saying. I'm like, what's the tea on him?
Speaker 2 (48:51):
It seems like he's a little bit I mean more
than a little bit, but like abused with Nikki really yeah,
like the fact that she doesn't feel open, you know,
to talk to Opie. It seems like she's always trying
to kind of cover for Josh's behavior and she's like, oh,
it's okay, like just get him this, and she's always
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you know, you know, like doing whatever Josh needs.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Am at a minimum emotionally.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yes, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't have any
proof of like anything physical, but like emotionally it seems
I aired my worries and grievances to NICKI regarding how
difficult this it has been trying to get to know
this new version of Josh, who I now consider a
complete stranger with understandable problems to a point, and is
now not a person I see as a friend. At
this time, I shared honest opinions and thoughts with her
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when she asked, and her vice versa with me. No
feelings were hurt, and obvious relief that we could be
open with each other was very evident. It was so
great to hear Nicki acknowledge that there are many things
wrong she needs to address, and there are things that
Josh needs help with. NICKI one hundred percent agreed Josh
needs therapy and really needs to work on himself, as
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she herself is feeling drained being the only person he
talks to about anything and everything. Nicky knows that she
cannot fully help without bias with him. She openly said
how tired she is of being the middleman when problems
arise for them. Yeah, she's having to do everything for Josh.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Okay, I know we're about to go, but like, how
how many months of therapy can Josh go to before
we break up with them?
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Well, it depends on how effective therapy is.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Forty consecutive state consumptions of therapy.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, just just forever.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Like if he's going for three months and we're seeing
like improvement, is that good? Or like if he's going
for three months and it's still the same person.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
I think, yeah, you absolutely break up with him. M Yeah,
because like if he's not even changing, Come on, Then
we got to the serious topic. I really wanted an
update and reason for are you both able to help
reimburse us for some or all of our cats Kremlin
emergency build? If so, what works for you? And why
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haven't you given us an update? And if not why?
Nicki explained to me that she had talked to Josh
a few days after our big sit down altogether back
in November. She brought up to him what my fiance
twenty nine mail and I asked. According to her, Josh
initially said, no, she's not our cat and not our problem,
but you caused the problem. Never forget the secret geriatriccrats.
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Those are his problem.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
After persuading him to understand more of why it was
principally right to help pay us back some or all
of it, Nicki reminded Josh how it was their fault
our cat gremlin got into the cold medicine that they
had left out for days while under their supervision and care.
Only then did Josh finally agree that they would pay
us back once they referring mostly to NICKI than about them.
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Both have better jobs to make those payments.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
I don't I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Don't like that.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
There's literally no guarant you might be stuck in your
freaking douchy job for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
And I got no, no, no, you gotta keep giving
me money. And you're also freaking living with us, and
like we're giving you all of this help and stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, us some money. But what I do?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
What like, Okay, I understand you can't you make payments?
Just a little financial audit. Yeah, what are we paying where? Oh,
we's cancel that and pay that to me. Just something
like fifty bucks something, Just a little.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Bit, you know how we cut costs?
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Get rid of the rats oo.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Or yeah. I was gonna say get rid of Josh,
but that wouldn't help.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
It probably would help sell the rats Josh the geriatric
secret rat market, and Josh too, because he's basically a
secret geriatric rat himself.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
You know how much those secret geriatric rats would go, dude,
with some good marketing behind it. Shoot million, Yeah, we've
already got We already have a cover for them.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
We really do.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Nikkish, she heard me she would be more than willing
to start paying us back in monthly payments starting next
month of the new year. I accepted her offer, wanting
to do this, saying we would be fine with two
hundred and fifty dollars per month for four months for
the partial reimbursement, which is what my fiance and I
were fine with, or have payments for the entirety done
in six months of four hundred dollars per month. Nikki
(53:22):
adamantly said she wants to pay for the whole thing,
which is again about three K. Well, it's been a
week into January of twenty twenty five and she is
not communicated with me about her payment, nor tried sending
one alongside their dues for rent. In fact, she asked
for an extension on their half for rent and utilities. Yeah,
(53:43):
now they can't even pay rents.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
That sounds about mother frickin'.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Righte saying she needs to wait until Josh is paid
for them to be able to make payment. Neither I
or my fiance can understand where their money is going
that they cannot even do a base rent of their
half of one k flat. But I digress lye Between
September and now, too much has happened with very little
effort for them to fix it with us or make amends.
(54:08):
Too many small instances of microaggressions and purposeful incompetence, mainly
from Josh the NICKI has been making this living situation
nearly impossible to finish our lease with them, just like
say no, you can't have an extension, like you have
to pay it or you have to leave. Just put
your foot down, man, and.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
You probably find better roommates. Oh a victim, you get
better roommates.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Absolutely. With being nearly two point five to three k
down and behind schedule of our plans and saving up
for our first home or wedding because they got our
cat nearly fatally ill, I am researching small claims to
see if it was even worth pursuing. Most of our
local Pine friends agree that we should not let this
go lightly and attempt small claims. Some of our family
(54:55):
members are saying we shouldn't keep pursuing as Josh and
NICKI will still more than likely not pay, and that
this has already broken our trust and my friendship with them. Yeah,
to which I agree. My friendship with Nikki is fractured
and keeps being so, and any chance of her new
friendship with Josh is non existent. Now if we still
(55:15):
somehow are able to reach our goal to have a
down payment towards our first home ready with pre qualifications
and loan needs met, I am heavily considering going no
contact with Josh and low contact with Niki. I don't
even want them to know where we may potentially live.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
What I thought, Wait, sorry, hide it hide, don't do
not tell them where you live, don't do it.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
Facts.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
I think it's just saying like, whenever we are able
to move out and just not going to talk to
these people.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
I ever again got it, But they are already doing
that kind of Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Well, I mean they stop to talk to them because
they live with them.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
But sorry, Also, would be really hard to hide your
address from them, because what do you have mail? Where
you're going to tell them?
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Afford it to eat the mail?
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, with A being a strong but happily accepted option
A celebration later with family and close friends is being
thought of two. But I will not extend that invitation
of celebration to Nikki and Josh. I feel like they
had a window of opportunity to really make amends with
us about this and work through this, and they did
not take it, nor do so seriously. They literally have
(56:21):
taken advantage of our friendship and have ruined a lot
of opportunities for themselves coming here to join us in Pine.
My fiance and I are still working ot on our
side job slash gigs in our downtime from our full
time jobs. I work one hundred hours a week twenty
hours of otee at my job, then an additional twenty
to forty hours with my side business.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
What like there are one hundred and sixty four hours
in a week.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Right, yeah, that is like, oh, you are a barely
sleeping right now? How are you?
Speaker 3 (56:54):
How are you traveling?
Speaker 1 (56:55):
Maybe she's counting? That is she maybe counting the time
when she like cat sits and like probably no idea,
I don't know, dang girl.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
My fiance works his forty to forty five hours a
week with this side business as an additional twenty to
forty five hours. Yeah, that's a little bit, I mean,
still crazy, but yours is insane.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
Let's look that does big.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Feeling stressed is an understatement right now, as not only
do we need to stay on top of what happens
at work and our own payments and dues, but we
are practically the maids or apartment cleaning fairies, as my
fiance likes to half heartedly joke of a shared space,
trying to keep this place livable and hygienically safe for
all of us to be there. We both don't feel
(57:38):
like going back home after working all day or night.
We don't like leaving our cat shut in our room
all the time even if we are home, and we
have really given up on making efforts to befriend or
be cordial to Josh. When nothing is reciprocated with this update,
I constantly wonder, am I the A whole? Would I
(57:58):
be the A hole? What else can I do? I
hope to have a more positive update slash post later,
maybe in the next couple of weeks or months, even
if no one has been reading my situation. I feel
some stress relief being able to share what's happening to us.
So thank you to those that have read this and
there is another update. Uh, hold on, it seems like
(58:24):
it so it seems like, OHP and her partner have
found a new place nice and they're slowly gathering their
things to move out. Uh, and they're trying to figure
out what they should do in terms of like should
they break the lease, should they wait until the lease ends? Naturally,
I think Ope wants to kind of do the like
(58:46):
pay pay the bet bell themselves and take them to
small claims court. It seems oh wow, yeah, fact, yeah,
And that's kind of it.
Speaker 1 (58:59):
Just tying above on it like a whole. Does she
make the right.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Moves only for making us read this long story a
whole for making us read it.
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Not an a hole in other aspects?
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah, No, I would say, not an a hole for
like anything that you're going about in terms of trying
to break the least or trying to get them out
or making them pay for the cat. But I would
say just in the future, when you have friends who
are clearly not really don't have their life sorted out,
maybe don't live.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
With them sometimes whenever, like we made this whole situation
in the house workout, I'm kind of baffled that it
worked out so well, so well, because we read stories
like this of people getting together and it's just horrible. Yeah,
and I'm like, we're working, living and partying together, and
it just seems like.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
One of my best friends.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
I'm glad I'm one of your best friends.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
And we just still and we live together and we
work together.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
Yeah, Sophia is definitely my best go to girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Right here, like like kind of like an added thing there.
I'm just saying, well, like honestly, just say I'm one
of your best friends.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Top three heck, yeah, I'm not gonna order them, but yeah,
top three, well, now we'll top five for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
There's so many construct we got.
Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
We got two of my best in the room.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Top three.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah, I don't even take to top five.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I'm blessed to be here with. I'm just glad it
worked out coming to California. Yeah. Oh anyways, but still,
this is crazy that they just became nightmares.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah sucks.
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Three nightmares. I'd say, like, just don't do it. There's slots, yeah, anything,
they're just.
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Like, yeah, they just sit there and they're like they're teenagers.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Teenage that's the word, that's the word.
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Hey's Johnny og host Here. We're gonna get back to
the stories, but it's a quick three minute break of
ass when we're sponsors. This is an episode from Deep
within the Archives. Time for okop ree Lash. My husband
has been getting happy ending my massages for years. I
was gonna leave him. But here's the thing. The happy
ending massages are just like fairy tales, right, you know,
(01:01:07):
you you go down on the yellow brick road and
magic happens at the end of the rainbow. That's every
single happy ending. The magic is the yellow brick road
turned into the white brick road. Wow, that is beautiful, Sam, Oh,
guess what the secret ingredient is?
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Same?
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
All right, let's find out today. I found out that
my thirty two female husband thirty three male has been
getting happy ending massages for the last several years. He said,
it's only happened a couple of times. But nonetheless, it's happened.
It's it's only been a couple of times. Sam, Hey, ba,
it's like you're overreacting. You know, five or six times
(01:01:42):
a year you gave.
Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Me a happy ending massage, I wouldn't need to go elsewhere.
Or maybe if you got some happy ending massages, yeah,
free for all. There we go, We're all about it.
They can do couples, and they said they can do
a couples happy ending massages.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Hey has two hands, That's what I'm saying, an actual DJ.
I have had my suspicions for years, but I never
brought it up as I was not able to confirm
them years years.
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Could you imagine how many massages are you getting? I
mean just like five massages a year for like five years.
That's twenty five massages. I mean there's a lot of chances. Well,
I guess that when you say like that, it doesn't
seem like that much honestly.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Really, but that's like twenty five Imagine cheating twenty five
times in a five year relationship like that's easy. Those
a rookie number. Sam's love life just always getting blasted
on this podcast. I am very loyal, He's very very
all jokes. This is all jokes. Today I checked his
location to see if he was on his way home
(01:02:49):
from work, and I noticed that he was that a
massage parlor.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
So I thing it's like massage parlors is given to
happy endings every which way.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
You know. It's really a good question because like how
do they not get caught more? I guess I could
just get it under the radar.
Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
There's actually a massage parlor called Happy Ending Massage, like
right around the corner from my apartment.
Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Can I see your loyalty card? That's what I meant
by loyalty, by the way, exactly loyalty. I would never
go to another one, go to another Such a good
guy Andrew Tape. Now, I just called him to say
hey and check in. He told me that he's still
at work and will see me soon. Excuse me, No,
(01:03:33):
that's see me more like se men. Bro, Come on,
oh that's a whole different happy ending. That's happy tins.
I replied, really, and he said no, I met a
massage parlor getting a shoulder massage.
Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Bro. I think all like, like in this relationship, if
she's been that like suspicious for like years, they should
have had a conversation where it was just like, hey,
if you you you're banned from all the side.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Or at least like is this going on like years?
Like not knowing that would torture me, my god. So
I called him out on his light and I hung
up on him. Bam boom. Fast forward to him coming
home quickly to talk about this. I told him I've
had a suspicion for him quickly. But I told him
I've had a suspicion for years, but I could never
(01:04:28):
prove it after a few good points. What good points? Wait?
Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
No, he had points apparently like like in terms of oh,
it wasn't bab like, I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
I I a few good points. I guess, a few
rationalizations or maybe that's what he calls his boners during
his happy ending. I had a few good points in
that last sees he's he's racking up his loyalty rewards.
After all this, he sat me down and admitted he
has done this a handful of times, a headful, and
(01:05:03):
that's being generous. Buddy. In what world are you a handful? Seriously,
I think you're you're an arm load, my guy, as
much as an arms I'm saying you're a pinky load world.
I was saying, the amount of happy endings he's gotten.
I was saying in the the of the girth, the
(01:05:24):
girth of his weien you know, is a pink not
a handful, It's a pinky pinky, pinky ful thumbleful, a
thimble thimbleful. So I dropped the bomb on him and
told him I want to separate. Yep, good for you, queen. Yes,
you know, it only took you five only five years,
only a few years. I said this because I've caught
him in a few different cheating scenarios over our relationship. Girls,
(01:05:49):
you deserve better mess seriously, like varying from some flirty
text slash messages over social media, a physical encounter, and
a failed meetup. My god, Jean is either the worst
cheater ever or is putting up numbers, because it's like,
(01:06:09):
if those are the times that she's found out that
yeah below of cheating. Yeah, the cheating iceberg. Actually that's
a really good thing. Ladies and fellas, if you are
catching your partner cheating or of suspicious activity, just know
just the tip, just what's about the surface. There's a
(01:06:31):
lot below. Now. He has worked through these issues in
counseling over the last several years and has been in
a good place lately, So lying to me really caught
me off guard today.
Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
How has he been in a good place. Man, still
getting these massages. How many massages does one man need?
Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
You know, like you can only be so loose in limber, Yeah, yeah,
become putty.
Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
At some point it's gonna become a blog to his bones,
just dissolving, like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Imagine that one scene from Harry Potter where he's like
and then the bone. Now, he's been to a therapist
in the past who's told him he has an addiction
to doing it. Yeah, he does, yeah, but then there
was another therapist who said that he didn't and he
didn't have to worry. Okay, just keep going on doing
(01:07:25):
this the happiness, a little massage here, and he didn't
hurt anyone. He told me today that he needs help
because he feels ashamed of doing these things. But it
feels like he doesn't know what else to do because
it's an escape for him. I feel real bad for
this guy. This man deserves the most sympathy points. Oh
(01:07:45):
my god, any man, I know truly, like I mean Sam,
he would not be able to escape without this, He
would be trapped. What else would he do?
Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
You know, I have a sadd ending he would he
would he would build trains, he would have a hobby.
Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Disgusting, How could one ever imagine?
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
All right, here a question, question, question, Yes, would you
rather your partner have one like passionate love, affair full
like right full, terrible at where you can imagine, where
you can imagine? Or twenty five happy ending massages?
Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Oh my god, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have
to go with the one time because like the twenty
five is saying like something's wrong, like like if you
get I guess one is like out of your system
maybe and you're good, but like I don't know, twenty
five that's that's insane.
Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Okay, So I actually would go with the twenty five
really just because I feel like it's less emotionally evolved.
It's like remember, you know how like the nineteen fifties,
like the you would have these husbands or like my
wife is hysterical, right that, Like the doctor would be like,
all right, we have a secure for this, and it'll
literally just get a vibrator and like jerk women off
until the orgasm and they wouldn't be hysterical.
Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
And thought they just gave him tranquilizers.
Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
That too, but they also, like the doctor, like women
would go in for their like monthly checkup, which is
just like their monthly orgasm. And basically the doctors would
give them happy endings. They would be like like less hysterical.
Oh what, yeah, that's crazy the thing that happened all
the time.
Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
I would I would rather that kind of occurs that
it's just like a medical procedure, right right, Wow, damn.
Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
I never knew that maybe maybe that could we could
create a subscription of the modern day. You know what
I mean, happy endings doctor Yeah, doctor happy, and your
wife is having trouble, get it off, just call up
seven doctor happy, call doctor happy, not us. Those are
new names. Doctor Happy is the name of our subscription
(01:09:55):
service that we're going to be launching. And it's a
billion dollar business. I mean that Lookey would a billion
dollars to say. We got a lot of satisfied customers.
Whether we stay together or not, I am concerned. I
will still support him in any way I can to
help him, especially because we have children together. Oh yeah, bro,
(01:10:16):
we are going to support in any way by any
means necessary.
Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Okay, I think like, if you really want to support
him by any means necessary, open up your own massage
parlor and start cranking out those massages.
Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Boom, got those happy endings. Let's let's turn these lemons
into business lemonade, you know, and then he can get
a bunch of different clients, make a billion dollars, a
bunch of husbands in a family. It's gonna be beautiful.
I don't think he's a bad guy at heart. He
just has issues, very very uh open, very empathetic.
Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Yeah, maybe he is to have an open marriage. Maybe
that's that's maybe maybe, but like only open too happy endings.
Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Yes, there we go. Yeah. What I'm wondering is has
anybody dealt with this? And is there any and is
there any good first steps in helping with a situation
like this. We've done counseling, both individually and together, but
I feel like he needs a retreat or meetings or
a support system or something. How can I support him
through this?
Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Getting happy ending massages in a relationship is not necessarily bad.
If that is something that you have talked about, yeah,
if you want to, Yeah, yeah, what is bad here
is the lack of trust and the fact that he's
been lying for five years to your face and.
Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Doing having multiple other affairs. Ands.
Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
But like again, it's not like it's not the act
of like, yeah, like having somebody else, they're both down
for it. It's the it's the lying. And so I
feel like like like he should have been showing a
pattern of behater for like five years of like him
just not being the most truthful person, yeah, and not changing.
Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
But they have kids together. Yeah, but I mean, you
know it sucks. But like, at the end of the day,
I don't think I think you're putting this bearing this
weight on your shoulders, and I do not think you
have to bear all of that weight. I would still
get him help and support because he is the father
of your children. You want there to be a good
relationship there. But I think, like I would figure out,
(01:12:17):
like how can you be removed in a way where
it's like you have to worry about this less long term,
you know what I mean, find and find someone who
doesn't do this to you, Like I think that this
you don't deserve this. I'm also I'm wondering, like do
are they having sex?
Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
That's a good question because it's like is there enough
intimacy in the related marriage? Yeah, because I like, all right,
let's say you are saying like, oh, I want to
stay together with this guy, which I advise, but like
maybe the thing that like you have to take a
hard look at is Okay, if I do want to
stay in this, what does my intimacy look like? And
(01:12:55):
maybe how can how can we come to a place
where can be intimate together. Uh So he's not as
inclined to cheat, but like that feels like it's like
that feels like it's putting blame on her. Yeah, it's
like i'd work on her. Yeah, it's just like I
mean I think, like, really, she's like this guy is bad,
(01:13:16):
you know, like I don't know if it's it's worth
saving save.
Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Yeah. Usually we kind of just like, oh we'll give
a high level whatever, but this one, I'm like, bro,
leave his ass, Like, yeah, this is not this is
ultimately not your problem to bear. Help him where you can, Yeah,
get him into find like a support group or something.
Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
And then that's and then that's that he's in it
and he's doing and you want you want him to
be a good father still.
Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
To the children.
Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Yeah, so but that doesn't this shouldn't come at her
expense ultimately.
Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
So, but I do understand, like when you have kids
complicate thing.
Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
But but at the end of the day, like Sam
just said, happy endings and marriages is okay? Yeah, frame editors,
frame a picture of Sam with that quote. And you
know what also is okay? Oh my god, what Sam
r slash?
Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
Okay, hope you show on Bred if you want to
submit a story to us and have us read it
and give us, you know, give you our sage wisdom,
we will and and can do that.
Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Shower us with your stories, Shower us with your semen
and your pee, give us a golden shower.
Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Do you want to do please? Guys, I saw Babylon,
you know Babylon. No saw Babylon. It's like with like Margot, Robbie, Tobe,
Acquire Brad Pitt. I thought it was okay. Some people
hated it. But the opening scene, like or one of
the opening scenes is this like super obese dude getting
pete on at a Hollywood party and he's.
Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Like, little Biggie likes it. Little Piggie likes it. Now,
that's that's cinema. We want to do that to us,
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