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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My brother uninvited our mother from his wedding. Now she's
upset that I went anyway.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I invited your own mom. Yeah, that's brutal.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
What'd she do? Dang? Who the cast? Mom, brother, sister
in law, aunt, uncle, cousin, dad, and me? When between
twenty twenty and twenty twenty two the story where the
beach and the mountains? What a wedding? Why true love?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I love this question mark.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
By the way, this comes from annual Stress five on
the Okay storytime subreddit. So our story goes way back
to before the wedding in twenty twenty two, but after
the engagement of brother and sister in law in twenty twenty.
It starts in twenty twenty one on a week long
vacation to the beach for mom's fiftieth birthday. We were
staying in a very picturesque condo with three separate bedrooms

(00:55):
that had direct beach access, and the unit was absolutely
beautiful with the most amazing views of the patio. On
this vacation were six people Mom, brother, sister in law, aunt, cousin,
and me. We were roomed in pairs brother in law
and sister in law, aunt and cousin, Mom and me.
This vacation had been planned months in advance, and Mom

(01:18):
was so excited. She planned out a week of fun activities,
including a sunset cruise to see dolphins, mini golfing, restaurants
of course, beach time, and more. Sounds like a.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Good time, man, Yeah, especially the dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
It was supposed to be a lovely week that was
unfortunately marred very quickly by a nasty fight. We arrived
late on a Friday and we were scheduled to be
out by the following Friday. Sunday night, after dinner, there
was a massive argument between sister in law and I.
I don't even remember all the details now. It culminated
when she called me a brat and I called her

(01:56):
a bee and we stormed off to our separate rooms.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yikes, not good.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Not good. From here. There are two versions of the
rest of the night. Mom's version, well, I had a
massive panic attack because I'm mentally sick. TM Is that?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Is that? What? I don't know?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, that's a good question. Mom went to the bedroom
where brother and sister in law were. She tried to
talk to them and tell sister in law that she
was being very mean to me. She implored sister in
law to apologize to me, but sister in law was
being stubborn and refused to talk to me. Mom eventually
left the room and came to help me calm down

(02:35):
in our room.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I love the telling of this story.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
It's great. I wish every sword was It's very cinematic. Yeah,
sister in law's version. I can see it like it's
playing that and then it like goes and then we
go back to sister in law's version. Well, I had
a massive panic attack because I'm mentally sick TM who
was saying this. Mom went to the bedroom where brother
and sister in law were. Sister in law says Mom

(03:00):
started screaming at her and brother, calling them all sorts
of nasty names and other terrible things. She even accused
sister in law of being an abusive person. Meanwhile, brother
was having an epileptic seizure on the bed due to
the stress of it all. Sister in law started crying
and having a panic attack of her own as well. Eventually,

(03:21):
Mom left the room and came to help me calm
down in our room.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, let's just slow down, damn.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
So we got two sides of this story.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's a crab show that. Yeah, we have a mom
screaming at sister in law, we have brother literally having
a seizure on the bed. Yeah, and then sister in
law freaking out.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well that's what the sister in law says happened, whereas
we just we have the mother, and the mother's version is, Oh,
she went in there to try and talk to them,
and the sister in law freaked out.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I calmly screamed at her.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I calmly raised my voice very loudly. Well, well, we
don't know. We don't know which story is true. I
believe that the there is some truth in both. I
think mom thinks she was talking nicely and that sister
in law was being a hard butt, but she was
coming across a lot louder and meaner than she thought.
I also think that sister in law was being a

(04:13):
little stubborn, but for a good reason. If she had
come out to talk to me, I think the fight
would have escalated further and the place would have burst
into a ball of flames. Regardless, sister in law and
brother stayed in their room for the next day and
a half. They only came out for food and water
and didn't speak to anyone else. Aunt and cousin tried
to stay out of it, but we're very much in

(04:33):
the middle, and it put a bad strain on their vacation.
Things cooled off by Wednesday, Mom's birthday, and we all
got along mostly for the rest of the week. I
apologize to sister in law and she apologized to me,
and we've been good since then.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wow, right, Okay, all it needed was that someone to screamed.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, I guess so. I guess it was just a
little chat. Sadly, the same is not true for sister
in law, brother and mom. Throughout the following months, things
continue to deteriorate between brothers, sister in law, and Mom.
I don't know all of the details of what contributed
to the downfall of the relationship. I do know that
my mom continued to make wild accusations at them and

(05:13):
then backtrack and try to apologize. This cycle continued up
until the wedding. There was one big accusation that Mom
made during this time that was the nail in the
coffin for her.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
What do you think it was? Do you have to guess,
like a big one?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Maybe I got There's like three that I can think
of a cheating, baby, trapping, or gold digger. Wow, those
are my three.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
You read a lot of stories.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I read a lot of stories, just throwing out there.
What do you think it is?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know more than me, I guess.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
So let's see. See she accused brother of marrying sister
in law only because she was pregnant. What's absolutely crazy
about this is that brother proposed a year and a
half before the wedding. They also had their location and
date reserved over a year before the wedding as well,
so this wasn't even close to being a possibility. But

(06:06):
it really set off brother and sister in law.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, incredibly rude. Yeah, like totally
gelant legitimize someone's relationship. Yeah, to just dismiss it.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
While Mom initially got to save the date for the wedding,
she did not receive a wedding invitation when they sent
out the actual invitations. She was crushed by this news
that everyone else in the family got an invitation and she,
the mother of the groom, did not. Mom eventually started
to tell those in the family who were going, primarily Aunt, uncle,
Dad and I, that we shouldn't be going. In solidarity

(06:39):
with her. What she said that we were choosing sides
and against her because we still planned ongoing. This is
really ridiculous because this mom has kind of dug her
own grave. It's clear that the sister in law and
brother can be you know, reasoned with based off of
Ope's interactions. Like they had a pretty big fight, yeah,
and then they apologized, But the mother just keeps like

(07:03):
digging and digging and digging.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
And then to say that, to say that you dismiss
the whole relationship, yeah, Like.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
And then be shocked that you're not going to come
to the wedding.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, but like also as a mom, to not be
invited to your own son's wedding so awful. Yeah, However
to just expect that the rest of the family isn't
going to show up.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, it's not allowed to go either because of your behavior.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
And like as a mother, Like I think part of
being a mom is selfless yeses, and to want your
own son even if you don't have a healthy relationship
right now and you're not going to go, you'ren't invited,
which sucks, But at the same time, you don't want
your own son to not have any family at their
wedding and if that is the case, if that's what
you expect, well, no, she.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Needs to figure out because just her whole attitude towards
the wedding and towards her son is just really messed up,
and she doesn't seem to realize that her behavior is
what's causing all this. Here's the thing was officiating the
wedding and uncle was a groomsman. Also, Aunt and uncle
were supplying their homemade wine for the wedding. This left
Aunt and I in a tricky spot where we want

(08:10):
to support Mom while she was going through a rough time,
but didn't want to skip the wedding. After all, why
should we forfeit our spots when Mom kept doing things
to dig herself a hole? Are you ready for the
cherry on top of this putrid mess of a wedding cake?
A sister in law and brother did end up inviting
Mom to the wedding and sent an invitation, but they

(08:32):
did so two weeks before the wedding with some stipulations.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Okay, wait, so was the mom at that point had
just like I never got an invite, she never got
an invited or she dig an invite, but she got to.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Save the date, and then she didn't get an invite Okay,
And so now they're saying that two weeks before the
wedding they sent the invite. Yeah, she had to sit
in the back during the ceremony, she wasn't allowed to
go to the reception, and her twenty eight year old boyfriend, Okay,
was not allowed to come. Talk about an age cat man.

(09:05):
I think there were other things as well, but those
are the main ones.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's kind of funny that they made a stipulation. Yeah,
you can't after your relationship. You can't bring your partners.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's like you're only with him because he's young. This
sent Mom into a frenzy where she continued to make
more accusations at brother and sister in law for having
the restrictions and not trusting her to behave. She also
continued to accuse aunt and I for taking sides after
their disgusting behavior. I tried to talk brother and sister

(09:35):
in law into inviting her and at least allowing her
to come to the reception. I promised I wouldn't allow
anything to happen, and if something did, I would take
Mom out. All this to no avail. Mom decided not
to go to the wedding. Her reason she already out
of their plans that she didn't want to cancel. She
reserved a cabin in the woods for some me time

(09:59):
with their boyfriend and our half sister. Yeah, not sure
how that's me time, But that ain't my business. I
suppose insert kermit drinking tea.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's your son's wedding is petty.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
She doesn't actually care about this cabin more than her son.
She just feels like she's been slighted, and so she's like, well,
I'm gonna put it to you, I'm not going to
come to the wedding. I understood that she wanted to
go to the cabin she had already paid for a
week and away. I understand that this whole incident was
traumatizing for her as well, since she was being excluded

(10:34):
from her only son's wedding. She still made the decision
to not go, though, even with the conditions to her invitation.
And there are no conditions for you guys to join
us live every WEEKDA at three PMPSD on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Just tap her profile, no conditions, no stipulations, and.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
There is a little bit left. But any final thoughts
that you have.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Those are my thoughts.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, the thing is that at the end of the day,
like it it is a big deal to like not invite.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
A parent, but as a parent, that would be so hurtful.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, but like her behavior consistently was just really disrespectful
and rude, and then.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
She was insulting.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, was invited, it was invited, decided not to come,
decided her pride was which I think is kind of
the theme throughout the story of just her pride getting
the way constantly and she's just not able to apologize
and own up for her actions.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, and I could. I could totally understand being like
upset that you're invited but you're not allowed to come
to a reception you can't bring your own partner. Yeah,
but at that point you kind of have to, you know,
have some self awareness and understand why, Yeah, and understand
that your behavior kind of led to that and put
them in a situation where they don't want you close.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Exactly, Like if you want, you could have that relationship
with them, Like, the only thing preventing it is you.
At the end of the day, though it was a
beautiful wedding, everything went smoothly, and though Aunt and I
missed her quite a bit. We were able to have
a wonderful time despite her absence or because of it. Yeah, honestly,
I feel like maybe because she was gone. I still

(12:05):
stand by my choice to go to the wedding because
it's not like me not going would stop the whole wedding.
Nothing would have changed other than I would have missed
out on a fun party and one of the most
important events of my brother's life. However, I want to
know what you guys think. Should I have gone? Should
I have done something more to try to support my mom?
And that is the end of that story. I think

(12:27):
you absolutely should have gone because this is your brother,
This is an important relationship in your life.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Apparently I ruined my brother's wedding. So I told them off,
tell them, don't let them talk you. My brother, thirty
eight year old male we call him Jack, has been
dating this entitled woman, thirty eight female Mary, who comes
from a well off family. I was a decade younger

(12:55):
at the time. I had been diagnosed with mental health
issues and had recently started medication. By the way, this
comes from you responsible Tip seven to eighty four on
the Roka Storytime subreddit. So Mary wanted to go shopping
for bride'smaids dresses as my body shape was a good
idea of how dresses would look because they have the
same bodies.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Shop Okay, I was like, what does that mean? Yeah,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
So I was on the short side, but I have curves.
The other bridesmaids were less curvy. Marie picks up her
friend and her and her friends made of honor. So
the four of us goes shopping six stores in so
many dresses. Marie finds a dress she likes and has
me try it on. Why can't she try it on?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay? So I believe Marie is the bride and Marie
is trying to find bridesmaid's dresses, and so uh op
is one of the bride'smaids. It's helping her by trying
them on. I think that's where we're at.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Okay. I'm in a size small. It was snug, but
I was trying not to add drama my brother Jack
would have to deal with. I was willing to suck
it up and wear the dress. I was pure pressured
by Marie and her friends. I try on an extra small.
It was uncomfortable, but Jack hopefully it would only get
married once, so I wanted to not make a big deal,
so I let her order an extra small for me.

(14:05):
Why can you not get your own Each person not
get their own size? Is that not? No?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I don't know why you wouldn't be able to I mean,
like to pick the dresses and stuff, but the size
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah. Flash forward eight months and the girls were getting
ready together. I had multiple shape wear to hold me
in since my medication caused me to gain sixty pounds?
Is this after the fact, because then.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
That would be even that dress would not fit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I managed to get the dress on, but it took
five girls. Poor op it is ZiT me in.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
This is crazy. It's an extra small and you're sixty pound,
Like there's a sixty pounds different.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Why can't Why aren't you allowed to have your the
right dress size?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I don't know if the sixty pound is after the fact.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
So it's like they got the dress and then gained
sixty pounds. Yeah, I don't how would you even fit
in that?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
That just doesn't make sense. Like this is like just
why do they hate you? Why?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I managed to get the dress, but it took five
girls to zip me in. I could barely breathe. The
dresses were just above the knee on purpose, but with
my shape and weight gain, the dress barely covered my backside,
so she got some curves hanging out.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Throughout the ceremony, the bride's made behind me, trying to
help keep pulling down the dress so it didn't expose her.
But at the reception, I went out front with Jack's
friends from Elementary to then their wives and I sat
out front with a couple bottles of tequila. We had
a great time sitting around drinking together. I needed to
use the bathroom and I was nervous. I started stumbling

(15:35):
towards the bathroom and my brother's friends wives, who I
know don't know, decided to come with me. I managed
to use a single stall bathroom and go pee. I
got the shape were on, but I could not get
the zipper up, so I asked the girls to help
me zip the dress. The struggle began, and the next
thing I knew, the bathroom was filled up with the
girls and now their husbands are in the bathroom trying
to help get the dress zipped. It's not even this

(15:57):
is crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Why would their husbands have to come in.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, they're like, okay, we need like we need defenses.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yes, husband's coming really ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, if the husbands are coming in, that's how you
know how.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Bad it is. I okay, I truly don't understand. I
think that if I I mean, like, obviously I haven't
been in this situation, but if you're at like if
you're you're trying on addresses and it doesn't fit, you'd
be like, hey, this doesn't fit me.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, and there was something Yeah, if we actually want
to like look at that, yeah, there was that literally
doesn't fit. She said, Oh, I didn't want to cause
any trouble.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, it's like, that's not trouble.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Curious why just being like this dress doesn't fit, this
is not my size, it's causing trouble.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah. Kimberly Fan says she was trying to pressure up
into losing weight before the wedding, which is totally possible.
But I'm like, I'm just wondering why OP wasn't like
this is not my size. This is horrible.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It took twenty minutes of struggling to get me into
the dress. Again. I was super embarrassed, but well, I
was hanging out front, away from the majority of wedding guests.
Marie commented a few times passive aggressive later a family
and friend that I'm the mentally unstable younger sister of
the groom and I'm in my partying stage in life.
I wasn't what it's so awful. What is this that's

(17:12):
so awful?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh my god, this bride Marie sounds like a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah. And also to just say like it's one thing
to just like so really say someone's unstable, it's another
thing to be like they're party, they're pretty Like I'm not.
I was dealing with a newly diagnosed mental issue from
the start of the situation I was trying to get
a hold of and I was very self conscious through
the wedding because of my massive weight gain. But I
did my best to ignore the salute comments during the

(17:37):
wedding and fell out of place and unwelcomed. It's been
over a decade now and Marie manages to find something
to passive aggressively comment on any time she is around.
She thinks I can never hear or never told later
these comments.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
No, she knows you can hear. She's doing it on purpose.
The fact that she's still doing this ten years later
is crazy. Like the thing is that this isn't your
and I know there's more to this story. This isn't
your fault. However, I do think that you need to,
like hopefully you are in therapy. You need to stand

(18:12):
up for yourself because this behavior is just like a
me and girl who sees that you don't you're not
going to say anything against her, and she's going to
keep doing that until you say, hey, shut up.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, this behavior again not your fault. Yeah, this behavior
will continue. Yes, if there is not much hard no
of like, this is not okay, this.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Has been going on for ten years, be quiet.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Marie still makes comments on how sluty I looked. It
felt more like she needed someone to belittle through the ceremony,
but is still continuing to complain about it. A decade later.
I've gotten a grasp on my mental health somewhat. I'm
still working on the physical side effects. Marie is still
making comments for kids, three boys under ten years old.

(18:55):
They have noticed and asked me to tell them what
a sloop was.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Ah, She's like said, she's saying it loud enough that
all these like ten year olds were like, Hey, we've
heard that you're a slute. What is this flute? Can
we be smooth?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm jumping boys. Hello.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I had no idea what to tell them, because the
entire family treats me like a psychotic time bomb. This
is just so awful.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Because he's probably still like probably is dealing with like
some sort of like you know, mental health and stuff.
But I think this might from at least from her perspective.
It sounds like maybe her they're treating her like she
is delicate or like breakable because of her mental health,
and then allows her to allows them to walk all over.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, if they're treating her like she's breakable, they probably shouldn't,
like find every opportunity, yeah, insul her.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well, I think that sometimes when people see vulnerable people,
they take advantage of it, and it seems like that's
the case.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
So I have the dress still and just seeing it
upsets me. So this past summer I gave it to
a friend's five year old to use. The play dress
up a five or five year old can fit into
your I thought she was gonna be like, so I
burnt the dress, Yeah, burn it. I don't have moonlights.
I don't have any pictures of the wedding because it
just hits hard. I am the crazy salute to the family. No,

(20:11):
you're not, you're not, You're wonderful, Opie and treated like crap.
I have barely minimal contact with Jack or Marie. I
do healthy living with my parents another thing Marie has
problems with. In the last five years, I've been requested
to stay in my room more and more. What is
healthy living with your parents?

Speaker 1 (20:31):
It doesn't sound like it's healthy living.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Nothing in this sounds healthy.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
This sucks so bad. But like, don't stop. Yeah, like
say no, leave.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
And I understand with mental health issues, it's it's so
hard for anyone. It's hard to stand up for ourselves.
Usually people have not been taught to stand up for ourselves,
and to put a known down is really hard for anyone.
And she starts struggling with mental health and she's on
new medication.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
And everyone in her life seems to be just piling
on here.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah. So I hope that you can find the strength
to stand out for yourself. At the same time, like
you fully understand why it's hard. Yeah, So recently knowing
I've been going through new issues with my hair, and
she knows I love long hair, but it just won't
get long, so I often wear extensions to feel better
with it. Marie told me she liked my hair better
without extensions. It was a punch in the gut and

(21:21):
I lost it. She broke the camel's back. I went off, Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Oh be finally, Okay, let's see what she said.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I went off on how she coerced me into an
extra small dress from the start, and it has been
slute shaming me for the last decade. I cussed her
out for doing my best while dealing with my own issues.
It's been a decade. What reason in the world makes
it okay to make the family, especially my nephews, see
me as a rebelling at the wedding, trying to sabotage

(21:53):
her by wearing a dress too small? Marie, playing victim,
I said some very mean things, to which I was
berated by my parents and have been all alienated from
the entire family.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I can't imagine that you said anything that wasn't untrue.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I'm happy you stood up for yourself, but at the
same time, holding in a whole decade of what you
should said. It's gonna explode. Yeah, and it's not going
to be a pretty scene. No, And people are going
to be mad.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, and just know that, you know, none of them
seem to be on your side anyway, so they would
have been mad regardless of how you stood up for yourself.
I think.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
But I think also, and that's just an important lesson,
Like when we hold in, are standing up for ourselves
what needs to be said, what is not being said
but needs to be said. When we hold it in,
when it eventually comes out, it's not going to be pretty.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I just gave this advice to someone of like, I
was like, you don't hold in your resentment because, like
resentment grows, resentment is a exponentially building thing. And if
you don't tell people that you're annoyed with them, or
if they've done something that pisses you off, then you're
just gonna it's just gonna be worse.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, it's not helping them, it's actually hurting both people,
and the relationship so alienated from the entire family. Since
I went off on her, I've been requested to stay
out of sight when Marie. When Jack and Marie are here, what.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Are you, Harry Potter? Stay in your room making, no noise, don't.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Exist, no wizardry in there. Oh my goodness, I live
in this house and I can't even get food from
the kitchen of the ar here. How old is Hoppee.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, it's been ten years and it seems like they're
probably in their mid twenties.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
It's Brittany beach as the family did nothing over ten
years of this bullying and harassment. Very true, Jeeves, am
I the a hole for not only still feeling salty
and semi traumatized over the wedding issue still, as well
as other comments throughout the year, and we have contexts?
Should we just go into it?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yes, give us context.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I've never been able to hold a full time job.
In two thousand and nine, I was told because of
my issues, I would not be able to physically, psychologically,
or emotionally be able to handle the job. My parents
constantly refer to me not being a functioning adult, and
not adult, not an adult in the family, but a child.
It's so belittling, so belittling. My parents threaten to drop

(24:16):
me off on skid row whenever they are frustrated or
just feel belittling me. Something I've become used to. I
feel this hurts because.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It seems like I'm like, I want to pee, to
just leave, But it seems like there's some financialeah, like
financially she can't.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well financially and mental because she's not able to pull
the job because of these you know, mental and emotional issues.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
So it just sucks that she's like trapped with her
family that treat her like crap. I am unfortunate enough
to not have anywhere to go. I hate this story.
This makes me sad, but lucky enough to live in
my parents toxic house despite too toxicity. To their credit,
they do pay for my medication forty pills a day.

(25:03):
That is a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
That is a lot of pills.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
That adds context. Yeah, like there's significant things going on.
The dresses were ordered in bulk at once in some
dress shop in Chinatown, so there was no way to
get a size change. Okay, that that explains it something.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
However, the worst part of it she had the dresses
sent to her and I had no way to see
it until the day of So I was very stressed,
trying to starve myself to try and lose weight any
possible and if you don't want to starve yourself, just
join us live on YouTube every weekday at three pm PST.
Just tap our profile.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Tap it.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
There's another relevant update. But let's discuss the situations with
the wedding. Yeah, in some sense, it is kind of
irrelevant because I think it's just like the cherry on top, Like, I.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Think it's just one moment in this lifetime that.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Is showing this super awful relationship that OPI has with
her whole family exactly, and how off she's treated and
that there's just no.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Escape, literally cannot leave this.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
And so the wedding was just like, oh, like, there's
no like, this is what it is. We come to it.
At this point, it's been ten years of being treated
like this and I can no longer be treated like
this anymore. Yeah, but there's nowhere to run, and so
the explosion that was inevitably going to happen happened.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, which really sucks.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Since the wedding, sister in law was diagnosed with cancer
in twenty sixteen. From that point on, my sister in
law and brother both can do no wrong. Okay, So
this is just she was already diagnosed with cancer and
so like it's another reason that there is a super
defendant of her her even after leaving the house, my

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parents discuss how sad it is, but it's not a
situation I'm loud to speak about. I medically stuck from
my issues that make each other worse and the repetitive
emotional trauma. I've been the therapy where my doctor flout
said I have a diagnosed issue based on my relationship
between my parents, and that she's also a physiological behavioral therapist.

(27:07):
We got there and very familiar with my issues, but
constantly gives me unsolicited, unnecessary advice. So the therapist is giving
I guess so unsolicited advice, I think so. For a
familiar example, if I broke my legs, she would tell
me I should not walk on it. My family enables
bad behavior, and every family member other than me, when
it comes to me, I'm a burden. When family calls

(27:28):
asking how I'm doing, my parents don't hand me on
the phone to speak for myself. They say I'm fine,
with which any family visit, they immediately see I'm not fine,
but they feel it's not their place to step in
and help me. Okay, that was the end of the context.
Man man oh Man Ricky.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, it's like, how do you get out of a
situation that you depend on for yourself at well?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Slily toves Ope, get a new therapist, get on disability,
get medicaid, get out to assisted living. Yeah that's possible.
That would be great. Like, yeah, get away from family.
It's only going to increase whatever issues you're dealing with,
it's just going to add on more ongoing trauma to it.

(28:12):
So if it's possible to get.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Out of there, or maybe like even talk, I don't know,
like if it's at all possibly the fact that your
parents are paying for your pills. Maybe it's saying like, hey,
is there any way that we could work out something
where I live not here? Yeah. I don't know if
they would do that because they suck, But if they
don't want to see you, maybe maybe we can sucks

(28:36):
really really bad situation situation.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Someone says, I'm just more confused how how some can
live like this. The human spirit is insanely adaptable, but
there are limits.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
My in law's trying to steal my wedding spotlight, so
I'm filing a restraining order. Don't let anyone steal your
time to shine.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Get that two hundred yard stick keep them away.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Hey everyone, Hello, it's a little long, so I apologize
in advance. So let me start by saying that this
happened last December, but the dust has just recently settled,
which is why I'm writing it now. So my wedding,
apart from everything that I'm about to tell you, was
a magical day. I got to marry the person that
I love, surrounded by my friends and family in a

(29:25):
beautiful wedding that my partner and I designed. By the way,
this comes from Eastern Reporter eighty five seventy three on
the OK storytime Separate it So truly, if it hadn't
been my big day, I might have found it funny,
but instead it was like living through a reality show
gone wrong. Let me start off by giving some context
contacts in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Next in the beginning, thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
My partner's parents never really had a wedding of their own.
They got married in a courthouse. There's nothing wrong with that, though,
because they were pregnant and had to rush things. They
didn't I really have money to spend on an event,
so they decided to keep it simple and they would
do something big later to renew their vowels or something else,
but they kept popping out children eight to be exact,

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that they never got the chance. Whenever they tell their
wedding story, they always say that they remember it fondly
and that it was one of the best days of
their life, so no one knew or even suspected what
they would do. I've never had the best relationship with
my mother in law or my father in law. They
have that weird relationship with their children where they're just

(30:34):
a little too close and it gets weird. Sometimes they
think that no one is good enough for any of them.
When speaking about each child's respective partners, they always throw
around phrases like if I was dating you, I wouldn't
be so weird.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
If I was dating you, I wouldn't be No, I
wouldn't I wouldn't be doing.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oh like I was, like that was danning you, I
won't be.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Alone?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Or why can't you date someone more like me?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Why you woman like your mother? I'm only a woman
you need.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Which kind of freaks the partner and I out, but
we look past it. When my partner proposed to me,
it was one of the best days of my life.
He did it on one of our favorite mountain spots
with our dogs, and I cried. He hadn't told anyone
except my mom and my best friend that he was proposing.
He told his mother at Friday dinner, and she was fuming.

(31:31):
She didn't even try to hide it. I can understand
being upset because he didn't tell her, but she went
on about how she believed that she deserved to be
there as much as I did, and that she wanted
to get proposed to as well.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
The mom hope, he's mom.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
She's like, why didn't you propose to me? I'm his mother?
The mom when asked, she said that I should be
the one proposed to her, to ask her if she
would be my mother in law. No, that's weird. Told
her that it was a little silly and just store
and she just stormed out of the room. We never

(32:07):
really spoke of the incident again. A few months later,
when we had set a date for our wedding in December,
every time we would hang out with the in laws,
they started making comments about what they would have done
if they had gotten the chance to design a wedding.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Thinks think like a tropical.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Paradise theme, getting married on a sunny beach serving pinicoladas, etc.
My partner and I have nothing against beaches, but we
prefer the cold, so we just smiled and nodded our
heads when they made the suggestions. We took it as
innocent comments by two retired people who had nothing else
to do but look at wedding shows on TV. It

(32:46):
wasn't until I had to go wedding dress shopping that
the issues started. Oh no, I made the mistake of
inviting my mother in law and sister in law to
my dress appointment, thinking that it would be a nice
way to bond. But no, that would have been too easy.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I feel like crab always goes down all.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
At the wedding dress because people it's an emotion. It's
like heighten emotions because it's already for me, at least,
going clothes shopping is already a heightened emotional state. It
stresses me out. I hate shopping for clothes, and so
I think when you couple that with kind of for
most people, the most important clothing item of your life,

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it's pretty stress, pretty stressing. We get there and it
all goes smoothly. I'm trying on a few dresses that
I really like. When all of a sudden, I hear
little giggles that I recognize coming from the other side
of the store. Shut up. I ask my friend if
she could go check what was going on, and she
found both of them hiding the dresses that I had

(33:50):
already tried on and really liked. What I'm gonna hide
my fist in your face. Nice, not actually going, but metaphorically,
I'm pretty upset in a weird storage room that I
don't even know how they got access to, and replacing
them with brightly colored dresses that were more for a

(34:11):
prom than a wedding.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
How do you even think you're gonna get away with
it if you're like prom oh?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
He's like, where's the dresses I found? And they're like,
you mean this pink one?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh? Got you? And You're like, I didn't really think
much of it. When they said that what they were
doing was for my own good, because it would be
embarrassing if I showed up in a white floor length
dressed to my wedding on the beach, I corrected them
and said it wasn't on a beach and that I
like the other ones. They rolled their eyes and walked away.

(34:44):
My partner also took them to the cake appointment, and
he told me that they were insisting on getting a
pineapple filled cake with Hawaiian flowers on it. He also
said no and moved on, why are they obsessed with
the beach? Do they just need a beach day? Well,
you guys can go to the beach.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
It because they never got their wedding.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, and they're insisting on having a beach wedding with
their little pina coladas.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't want pineapple my wedding cake.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Freak on my wedding cake.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Put it on your pizza.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, I actually do like pineapple and pizza.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Stud Chill, you're gonna say that online.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
There were so many of these incidents throughout the span
of three months that I don't know how we didn't
see it. Cut to the wedding and everything is just perfect.
I don't believe you wop. And we didn't, in fact
get married on the beach. We got married in a
snowy field, a little impractical, and my dress got wet,

(35:40):
but I had the best time. As everyone is arriving
for the ceremony, I'm getting ready with my partner in
a little room when my maid of honor bursts through
the door and shows us her phone. She was on
FaceTime with another bridesmaid outside so that we could see
what was going on.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Oh no, oh no no.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
In the middle of a crowd of people wearing neutral
and cold colors, I see this figure dressed in knee
length Hawaiian dress. It was bright red and did not
fit in at all, and she was also wearing a sunhat,
and of course my father in law was wearing something
to match her. I'm gonna be honest, I feel like
they're hurting themselves more because they're just gonna be a cold.

(36:25):
They're just gonna be cold. It's like, Okay, you guys
are wearing that, I guess.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
And it's just embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
It's just embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Are you what are you trying to get out of this?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
So truly, it's like, Okay, I guess you're in a
Hawaiian dress.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, you showed me, I guess. Oh no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
I tried to go out and confront her, but I
was made to sit back on the phone and watch
as my bridesmaids did it for me. They asked her
what she was doing, and she said that she was
told it was a tropical wedding so it wasn't her fault,
but that this wedding also needed color because I did
it wrong. Kept asking her if she could change, and
she kept saying no. So I just told them to

(37:04):
leave it alone and that it was fine. That is
the lamest excuse I've ever heard. What do you mean?
You were told it was a tropical wedding by herself.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
She was like, I'm saying this is a tropical wedding.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
No, but it's like it's like getting an invitation for
a wedding that's happening in like I don't know, New
York in January, and you're like, oh, it's a tropical wedding.
You know I wanted to it's like actively snowing. You're like,
it's a tropical wedding.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Tropical? What do you mean? Why you ask me why
I'm in this?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
The ceremony went by easily, and it was literally the
happiest I've been, But obviously it didn't go without incident.
Of course, I go out later that before I walked out,
my mother in law trying to walk out.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Before me by herself with a bouquet.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
She got out of who knows where because she wanted
to make sure that the walk was perfect for the bride.
What she like, wait, wait, wait, I need to test it.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
You try this to make sure there's not poison in it,
but I walk out.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
She's like, I need to make sure it's not booby trapped.
She even asked the organist to play the wedding march
for her. Of course she refused and she had to
sit down.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
The same thing happened with my father in law. He
kept trying to stand next to my partner at the altar,
so close that he kept pushing him over as if
to move. His best man had to physically pull him
to his seat. Why are these people?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I'm sorry you're marring into this.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
During the walk down the aisle, they both kept talking
loudly and voicing their disapproval on my dress, make up,
hair decorations, et cetera. Man they were also told several
times to quiet down, which only pissed them off more.
They also audibly gasped when we skipped the part where
someone objects to the marriage.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
They're like, wack.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
If anyone does not, they just move past them.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
They're like, where what about the objection part?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
That's the most important part.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
What does someone need to object, but someone someone else,
anyone needs.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I might not object to this wedding, but I sure
as heck object to this theme.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I object to the lack of pineapples.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
They also loudly asked in the middle of the ceremony
if I was really that insecure that I had to
cut out that part, oh my God, to which my
partner answered that it was his idea and that they
should shut up, which they promptly did. This is so funny.
So the priest is like or whatever, you know. The
officiant is like, do you take this woman to be

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your and the parents are like, this is so is secure.
She had to cut off the objection part. Someone objects.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
To be your lawfully wedded, And then the groom is like, yeah,
I did it.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Shut up. He's like, okay, wild I would love to
go to this wedding like step brothers. I would love
to go to this. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I kind of want to go to a crab shoot wedding.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I want to go. I've only went to good weddings.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, good weddings going on. You guys are not doing
it like the toxic weddings. Yeah, not schill.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
After that, it was relatively easy. We got married and
walked out on our way to the venue. They insisted
we give them our car, which had just married, on
the back, because we owed them. At this point, my
partner just kept getting angrier and slammed the door in
their face, leaving them to take another car. Once there,
we thought that would be the end. It was not.

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We sat down at our table and they were the
first ones that walked towards us, once again asking if
they could sit there instead of us, because it was
only fair that we had our ceremony, so they had
to get the reception. I might you can't have everything.
You're so selfish. I'm whoa, it's so crazy people. They

(40:55):
literally said, don't worry, we'll still take it, even though
you screwed up the dropical with it, like you might
have a winter wedding, but it'll do with a big
smile on their faces. And my jaw dropped and my
husband started to raise his voice when one of his
brothers came over and took them away. They tried to

(41:17):
come over during the meal, but were blocked by bridesmaids,
so they had to wait until our first dance. We
started dancing, and it was lovely when all of a sudden,
out of the corner of my eye, I see two
figures swaying. I look over and see them bumping into
people trying to get into the literal spotlight my partner

(41:38):
and I were dancing in. Once again, they had to
be held back.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
This continued and they looked ridiculous each time. They constantly
tried to lure the photographers away to take their wedding
pictures and got mad when even they told them they
weren't getting married. And another fun thing, they got caught
by some weight staff trying to switch our cake with
the pineapple cake. Shut up, Where did where were they
storing it?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
They snuck in the pineapple cake.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
This is freaking contraman pineapple gate.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I got a baggie of pineapple.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Pineapple like that they wanted in the beginning, we were told,
And before I could say something, my husband literally pushed
them out of the venue into a taxi that was
parked in the entrance.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I would lose my shit.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I would go crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
My parents were doing this at my wedding.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I'd be like, oh my god, take your cake and go.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
They police take them out.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah. He says that they kept arguing and saying that
I had ruined their special days.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Their special day, he.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Paid them no mine and went back after sending them.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Away, I feel like like if they're doing this behavior
so unapologetically, yeah, like OPI's husband has got to yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
You guys graduation and they were like no wait wait.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
This is a graduation.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, I you ob checked.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I can't imagine how that he's that shocked.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
No, I know, I'm like, these parents are clearly crazy wild.
After that, everything went by smoothly until it was time
for the bouquet toss own.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
No, so I feel like this behavior would not it
would never make sense. But the only way I could
logically understand is like they're hammered, like they've got or
like on a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
They brought peniu clatas as.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Well, like sober people don't do this?

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Can it be?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
As I turned around to throw it, I feel my
veil being ripped out of my hair. No, I turn
around and see my mother in law with my veil
in her hand, waving it around, yelling in happiness, saying
that she won. Weren't they sent away? We need we
need some security.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah. Security.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
One of my partner's friends had to hold him back
because he was about to lunge at his mother. She
kept saying that it was an old tradition that whoever
got the bride's veil gets the honeymoon. What she's like,
it's an odd tradition. If I steal your veil, you
owe me. You owe me your honeymoon, and also I
get to get married. Call the officiant back.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
By traditional lie, you owe me a honeymoon.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
I don't make the rules. I don't, I just enforced them.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
But bring the priest.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
The cops were called and took both of them away,
my mother in law for the veil thing and my
father in law for driving under the influence. Okay, someone's
under the influence. Yeah, because while the taxi took them home,
they drove back right because the taxi drove them away,
and then they drove back to the wedding to steal
the veil. Nothing happened after that. We had a great

(44:42):
time with my veil on my head well, and then
my partner and I left. He was very mad and
actually convinced me to press charges and file a restraining
order about two months later because they kept showing up
at her house throwing wedding gigs at her house. How
much money were they wasted to cake your house? This

(45:03):
is wild and that's it. That's my wedding drama. Also,
most of their family have cut ties with them. That
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
This is like you need mental support, truly, something.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Is something is wrong mentally house Truly. Princess says it's
a German tradition, but it's supposed to be during the
first dance, and she's like, I'm German now I have
I'm one percent German, I have point point five percent German.
I just showed the post to my husband and he
mentioned a few things I missed.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It is more, as you can probably guess, they got
really crop.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
We didn't have a set limit for guests on how
much they could drink, as we know everyone as a
preference and we respect that, but we did tell bartenders
to judge whether someone should still be drinking, and they
judged poorly. These people, my in laws, were told that
they couldn't drink anymore up to five times, after which
they got into the bartender's van in which they brought everything.

(46:01):
No one realized until after the event when looking at
the security footage. The bartender said it was fine, but
we pay them a little more for the inconvenience.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
But you know what, it's never an an inconvenience, never
joining us live every weekday three PMPSD on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Just tap our profile and there is a little bit
left to this story. But cut these people off, cut
them off.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Wild.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
These are crazy people. Wild, These are crazy people who
are caking your house.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
They're caking your house.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I hope it's good cake.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
But by German tradition, you do owe her the.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Honey You are the honeymoon, right, I don't make it.
But cut them off, but you all.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
The she got the veil, Okay, yeah, come on, she
got the veil German tradition.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
They also behaved so childishly during the meal. They were
throwing their food at other guests, so this is common.
They commonly throw food at people, which was actually really embarrassing.
They kept saying it was because my mother in law
could have cooked better, or she would have chosen something different.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
She's like, this chicken is not again, I got a
cook The chicken is so well, it doesn't have freaking
pieapples on it.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I wanted piapple on a chicken.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Ah give me a veil, and finally they both got
into a fight with my mother. I don't know how
I forgot that. Apparently my mother in law came up
to my mother to discuss the ceremony and started saying
how I looked puffy and it just didn't fit me. Well,
I was three months pregnant and we hadn't told anyone
except my mother and some of my partner's siblings, and

(47:31):
I didn't think I was showing, and my mom didn't
say anything until she started saying how I was in
this marriage for convenience and just overall crappy things. My
mother told me she almost slapped her, but chose to
throw a drink on her, and they didn't speak again.
If my partner or myself remember anything, will update please do? Man?

(47:51):
Oh man, what a what a wild ride?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
A wild ride.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I'm really glad that we read that. Honestly, me too.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
It was entertaining that was that was doesn't seem like reality.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
It doesn't. I'm shocked that these people exist quite frankly.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
But please make a documentary.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Please, a wedding footage.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Show with them being starred.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I really want you to have wedding footage of this.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
You could just sell the wedding footage, yeah, to the studio.
You don't even need to edit it.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
You don't just leave it. It's kind of like a mockumentary. Yah,
but it's real. I would love that.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Now. The bar is like so low on weddings.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I'm like, yeah, I'm like wow. If I'm not anything's
better than that.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
If people aren't drawing up sneak pineapple in the cakey
like cake my house and steal my honeymoon, it's a
pretty good wedding, great wedding.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
My maid of honor ruined my wedding and my marriage,
but she got what she deserved in the end, a
taste of revenge medicine. This is a long post, but
please bear with me. Back in the dark ages of
twenty seventeen, I got married to my now ex husband.
The morning was awful. My parents couldn't be there as

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they were hosting guests at their house, so they sent
a family friend to help me get food. By the way,
this comes from zero zero, three, one four five on
the Okay storytime Separate it. So I really needed my
mom there. But such as life, my best friend made
of honor one equals made of Honor one came by
earlier to keep me company. I had tried calling around
as I left my something blue at home, but no

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one answered, and by the time they did, it was
too late, So I'm stressed and nervous. My other best friend,
Made of Honor two, still hadn't arrived and also wasn't
answering her phone. After my parents arrived, I started getting ready.
My hair and makeup were both perfect. My dress felt
too tight, but I was paranoid it would fall, given
that it was a corset dress. Everyone left my room

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as the ceremony was about to start, when in came
my maid of Honor two. Her hair was a mess,
which ordinarily I wouldn't have cared about, but she could
have at least brushed it. Her dress also looks like
she screwed it up in a heap in her closet.
Did she do something that'll freaky in her dress? Who
freaky dress? The first thing she did was to call
me a bridezilla as a joke, apparently because I was

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pacing due to nerves and a little tearful because I'd
felt my morning had been very stressful. All I said
was I needed my something blue. She didn't even seem
to want to be there. After the ceremony, which went fine,
we went outside and started taking photos. In the group photos,
she was the only one who couldn't be bothered to
look at the camera, and she barely smiled in any
photo she was in. It's fine, she's a mom. Maybe

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she's tired. I let it go. The second the photos
were over, she and her partner left. They made sure
to say by first, I was very annoyed because I
had spent extra on her food as she required a
special diet. But she explained that their baby had a
sleep schedule. I'm sorry. If your baby is gonna be
an issue at a wedding, then for babysitter, Yeah, if

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you baby, said he.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
If you know your baby sleep schedule and you know
that this wedding is gonna like yeah, get in the
way of that, then like tell them ahead of time,
tell them ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Don't make them get special food for you when you
know you're not even gonna eat it.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
No, There were so many options here. One shouldn't have
accepted your maid of honor position two babysitter.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Three telehim in advance. I have a feeling she's lying.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
She later claimed that she didn't do her hair or
sort her dress because she had a five month old baby.
I believed her, even though a two month old baby
was in attendance and her mom looked amazing. It's relevant,
I promise. On her wedding day twenty nineteen, she.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Was acting stressed. Oh how the turntables.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Being the petty cow I can sometimes be, I called
her a bridezilla. I emphasized that I was only choking.
She had asked me to walk her down the aisle
as she didn't have a dad to do it, and
we saw each other as sisters. Then twenty twenty hit.
I got a desperate call in February. She was pleading
to come stay with us as her husband had been
abusing her and claiming she was cheating on him.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
She was a mom.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
What time could she possibly have? Oh how dumb I was.
So I helped her move all her things from two
hours away. I settled her in my spare bedroom, and
over the next few days started helping her find schools,
a home, get special food. I even baby sat her
two year old while she went out to buy food

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with my ex husband. I don't think they were buying food.
They would we know where this is going. I think
perhaps her husband and her friend were not buying food,
and I think.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Maybe we know why her dress and her hair. So
I ignored all the red flags. She told me one
day that she couldn't go without intimacy for a week.
Then the next day she claimed she and her partner
hadn't been intimate since she had gotten pregnant. It didn't
add up, and while I had my doubts, I believed her.

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I once walked in on them kissing, though they separated
fast and said that they were talking about my up
and coming birthday presents. I just knew she'd never hurt
me like that. She was like a sister to me,
So I foolishly believe them.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Girl. You pause, you saw.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Them kissing, all them kissing. I'm sorry, girl.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
They're like they're like making out. You walk in and
then they're like, no, we would just whispering about your
presence really closely. Yeah, exactly, we just had to. We
had to sync up about your presence. And then you're like, oh,
that bittracks.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah. It took three days for my ex to tell
me he was dating her. My heart was ripped out. Oh,
I'm sorry. You weren't dating her. You were. No, you
don't get to say, oh.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
I'm dating her, Yeah, you were cheating with her. Like no,
you can't even try to make it seem like it
was respect. No.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Even if it was kids, it wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, this is ridiculous. I argued with her again, telling
her that I'd done so much for her, and here
she was stabbing me in the back and leaving me
completely homeless. She claimed that I was never there for
her when we were teens me eighteen or sixteen. She
had moved to live on her own and I visited
from time to time. I needed clothes from home, so

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rather than bring me clean clothes, she she grabbed a
bunch from my laundry amper and brought that to me.
She hugged me when I saw her, and she even
tried to comfort me. It took three days for my
ex to tell me he was dating her. My heart
was ripped out. I argued with her again, telling her
that I'd done so much for her, and here she
was stabbing me in the back and leaving me completely homeless.

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She claimed she had fallen in with a bad crowd
and was taking illegal substances. She basically said that she
slept with my ex as revenge, you suck, as revenge
for not visiting you at eighteen.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Yeah, come like she moved down at sixteen.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
That's crazy. Yeah, like, I'm too clear.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
It's a lot going on. Yeah, it's not a peace fault. Yeah, exactly.
Like and then, so you're just gonna sleep with her husband? Yeah,
we're not gonna talk it out. Knew she'd never hurt
me like that. She was like a sister to me,
so I foolishly believe them. Then my ex husband suddenly
broke up with me and kicked me out of the
home I was paying for, as he didn't have anywhere
else to go. I begged Maid of Honor too to

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let me live with her in her new house. She
told me that she already promised him the spare room.
I pleaded with her, pointing out that I'm her best friend,
I needed her more than him, But it was no good.
She never told me what she was dealing with, so
I never had a chance to be there when she
supposedly needed me. Two maybe three weeks passed by, and
he called, pleading for another chance, only to keep seeing

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her behind my back for a further week. It was
then he told me, in an effort to get me
to break up with him, that he and her had
started their affair A couple of days after she moved in. Well,
I slept in bed, they were banging on my sofa downstairs.
I honestly believe that after everything, Oh, he told her
that now this is where it ties in with my

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wedding day maid of honor two husband started messaging me.
It was then I found out the entire truth. They
were late to my wedding day because she was in
love with my ex husband and she didn't want to
see him marry me. She intentionally came in a mess
because she wanted to look awful. She'd also tried to
ruin my wedding photos on purpose and left early because
she couldn't bear to see him happy with me. It

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got worse. It turned out that she had been abusing
her husband and her stepson. I had seen things that
at the time I thought we're down to her being
a stressed to mum, But after he told me.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
That it all made sense. While with me, she had
also been casually bad mouthing her steps on. I just
didn't put the pieces together until her husband mentioned it.
When her house was ready, they moved into it, and
I moved back home. I started rebuilding my life. I
lost the weight i'd put on. I went from UK
size twenty to size fourteen, and I got fitter and healthier.
And you guys can get healthier with us by joining

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us live every weekday at three PMPSD on YouTube just
uper brobil And there is a little bit left to
the story. But man, oh man, your friends sucks yeah,
quote unquote friend and your husband sucks everyone sex here? Wow?

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Is everyone? Like that's kind of silly to me what
the friend was trying to do, Like, oh, I just
like meant to come in all look at all messy,
to just like ruin your day.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Your day, no one cares about you. Mall cares about
that you're ready to look massy. That just means that
you look bad.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Yeah, And then like I'm gonna not smile in the
pictures to like try to make your photos look It's like, girl,
the only one that looks bad in the photos is you.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
It's like I would say, come up with a better
way to like get revenge. But she did sleep with
the husband, so that kind of alas that kind of
got her revenge. Yeah, that is saying it. You finally
got a good way to like actually hurt her stupidest
reason to the Yeah, I feel like she didn't actually
care about the six you know thing that happened, which
was sixteen. I think I just wanted like an excuse

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to make herself look a little bit better. I totally agree.
I think she just liked the husband and just yeah,
it was like.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Wanting to sleep with him. However, karma comes for those
who wait. In twenty twenty two, she kicked my ex out.
They were a toxic couple. He had made unreasonable demands,
and he had put hidden cameras around her home so
he could make sure she wasn't cheating on him while
he was out. I believe he had even taken her
phone at some point. He had also started keeping watch

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of all her accounts social media, Amazon, bank, et cetera.
I know because his mother told me in details I
won't disclose here and now made of honor. Two won't
let him back home to see his son, the one
they had conceived in my house. At the end of
the day, she did me a favor. I'm now in
a healthy relationship with a wonderful man who makes me
feel like a princess and treats me like a queen.

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Here's to my second marriage being the best all. Sometimes
you just gotta dude, take two you. I want to
throw up you, sister.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Oh, I know the friend, whoever that was.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Whoever is this?

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah, I just want to throw up on that because
of them, and then on them, just to just to
get that, really seal the deal, get my own revenge
on them.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
They deserve it. They suck. Yeah, Like, not only did she,
like the maid of honor, abandon her kid, was horrible
to her husband, Yes, but then Op's husband was, you know,
abandoned his kid, right, and now they have another kid
that they're don't seem to be looking after.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Then yeah, it's like they have their kid, but now
they're not even like together. So it's just like a
whole mess whole.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Messy, messy, messy situation.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Mess So glad that she doesn't have to deal with
them anymore.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
You don't have to deal with it. You're treated like
a princess.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah, folks, will Chris, Yes, I need to do.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
So you need to, but that is the end of
that story, so we'll see you next time.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
My fiance ran off with the guy she cheated on
me with.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Now she's broke.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Ooh karma, ooh hello everyone writing this sun Mobile, Please
forgive formating errors.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
We forgive you what people I won't.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Sophia doesn't forget, don't forgive you. I was in a
decade long relationship with the person mentioned in the title
We have a child together who's in the first grade.
Recently I discovered she was siphoning from our daughter's money
I would put away every month like school fees and savings,
as well as using her salary to fund expensive hotel
and guesthouse stays with one of her employees, under the

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guise of what By the way, this comes from throwaway
underscore repeater on our slash Okay storytime Subbreddit. I called
her out on this as soon as I found out,
and her new guy's reaction was to send people to
my house because she gave him the address I would
later find out.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
To so clean up everybody living in it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
For lack of better terms, I wouldn't include this if
not a necessary part of the story. Please forgive it
if it treads any lines with the sub rules. Her
reaction to that I antagonized him by confronting her, So
no foul. In her book, I am blowing it out
of proportion despite multiple voice notes and text messages. I
picked her out of the house due to obvious danger

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in this and her new guy cannot help her with
a place to stay without giving too much away. She
earns less than half of what I do and he
earns a quarter of what she does, so they can't
support each other. Not in her work, not at all.
She's currently CouchSurfing around her friends and relatives places, while
he allegedly lives with his mother in a studio apartment. Recently,

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she has contacted me to ask me to co sign
on a lease with her, as she doesn't have any
other options. And while I want to help her because
I care about her, I also feel she has made
her own bed and should lay in it alone or
with that guy. The consequence of all this up and
down is that legally he's not allowed anywhere near our
daughter anymore, so the two of them moving in together

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would likely mean she cannot see our daughter anywhere. She
knows this, and this is partially why she asks for
my help, as if the other guy signs with her,
he will want to move in with her. Should I
feel bad and help her out? Should I tell her
this is her doing and leave her to her own devices?

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Terribly conflicted? What do I do? Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
And there is an update? But what do we think
so far?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Huh? This is a little tricky because like, obviously she's
at fault for these things here, and you don't owe
her anything, Yeah, but it's also kind of figuring out
how to co parent and how to you know, like
have your daughter's mother be in her life. Yeah, Like again,
like you don't owe her anything. Maybe angel move would

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be to help her out a little bit. Thank you
for your advice everyone. There are simply too many comments
to respond to them all. I have a small update
to share with you. I'll make a full blow post
probably a week or so from now, depending on how
things go mine now. Ex has voluntarily checked into a
shelter slash home for women whose lives have come off
the rails tonight, and after speaking with them, they've assured

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me that she is indeed there tonight and that they
test for drugs as a part of the administration process
and as part of the ongoing board and lodging requirements.
It warms my heart somewhat that she understands that she
needs help. This covers the roof over her head temporarily
and makes sure she is on the straight and narrow
for the next while. I think it may be too

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late to salvage our relationship and trust, but I wish
her the best in recovery. That's a very mature way
to look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
And I'm glad that she's getting some help to you too,
and that it's not necessary that he's the one that
helps her.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
No, you can find help other places exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Lastly, someone here has reached out to me who knows
me in real life, as the story is a big
deal in my local community. WHOA, that's crazy. They've pointed
out that the ap junkie whatever is indeed among the
comments here, and I hope he too, is learning from
the responses of others about being a decent human being.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
WHOA, he's here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
He's here, He is in the rooms, in the room
with us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
We summoned him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Update number two today was a frustrating one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
It was the restraining order hearing and he ap didn't
turn up to court.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Boo, yikes, yikes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
It's important to note that while I have an interim
order against him, we have to complete this stage of
the process to get a five year ten year permanent
order and stated as the interim expires at the end
of February. Judge insists that there is not enough in
a dozen voice notes for call recordings and seven pages
of pretty explicit text threats to deliver a verdict in

(01:03:50):
absentia and set another date for April so he can
be allowed to test his side of the story, basically
saying that there isn't enough information to charge him without
him being because he's not there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
He didn't show me. I see, I see. So it's
probably enough to charge him, but he's got me there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
For those of you who have asked about calling the
cops or going the legal route, this is why I
have zero faith in my local justice system.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Personal note to you, home wrecker.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
I know you are here reading this and posting snide
comments my ex your new puppet, has told me as much,
and looking at them, it's obvious to me you were
a bigger man when you made direct, repeated threats of
what you wanted to do to a little girl, which
I won't go into the content of here, but we
both know you meant more than the cleanup act you promised.
If you are not man enough to sort this out

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as men supposedly do, at least have the kahones to
explain yourself to myself and the court, tell everyone here
and see what these folks make of it for some
free peer review opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Before we see the judge.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Thank you again everyone except you AP see you in court.
Update number three, Hello everyone. I know I promised and
date sooner, but there were many more twists in the
tail after the last post. I love to hear it,
and I've been busy trying to keep mine in my
daughter's heads above water. So some old stuff AP thirty one.

(01:05:12):
Mail No showed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Once again on the court date, and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
They furnished me with a cop out order. So basically,
if he approaches me or turns about my house, et cetera,
I can have him arrested, no actual punishment handed out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
And this was a month ago.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
X convinced a friend this will be important later to
co sign a lease with her a few miles away
from my residence, and she and the AP moved in
together two weeks ago, so she like tricked that. Basically
all right and now for the new wish stuff. AP
was thrown out and nearly arrested after lashing out at

(01:05:49):
her violently believing me to be trying to woo her
back via text. AP has told a mutual friend between
us that I was texting his new girlfriend slash my
ex all manner of flirty and provocative things.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I knew nothing about this, and this was a week ago.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
I find out that she had my name saved as
a smokescreen on her phone. The friend she co signed
with was the person she was really exchanging inappropriate text with.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
He was framed.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
He was framed, so there were texts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Oh, but it wasn't to the actual open she's double cheating. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
When AP looked through her phone and found my name
sending nudes et cetera in her messages, he flipped out
and confronted me over the phone. Thank the Lord for
WhatsApp screenchair. I quickly showed him that I had nothing
to do with any of that. The friend she co
signed with proposed marriage. She accepted, which she insists is

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we just met each other at the right time, which
she wants me to believe was a week after breaking
up with AP. Unfortunately for her, it is non difficult
nor illegal for me to find out who is on
whatever property's paperwork. I suppose in essence, she was seeing
someone behind my back for at least two years and
use this other junkie as something to get caught out

(01:07:11):
on deliberately while waiting for myself and that junkie AP
to potentially seriously maime or worse each other while she
eloped into the sunset with this other bloke and our daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
I don't know what to make of any of this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I thought I was recovering really well until I got
wind of this, and now the levels of deceit are
hurting me something awful. All the nights of eating canned
beans and bread, sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Not eating at all so our daughter.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Could eat decently every night when we supposedly didn't have money.
My ex was never hungry, which I found out was
because she was eating full meals at swanky restaurants before
coming home from late shifts. All of it was because
she was spending money in our joint accounts on two
different dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Oh my god. She was also spending their money. Yes,
so not only I was thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
She was like, you don't get these fair partners to
pay for her food, but she's using their money while
they're starving over here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
That is too streke.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
That is insane when you have a young daughter too.
I cared about her at all. Yeah, oh wow. I
don't know, guys, I might be back with another update.
I might not, but thank you all for your advice, criticism,
and opinions. I've left out some context on the money trouble.
Our ex had signed our daughter up for some of
the best extra mural activities with my blessing, with some

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of the most reputable places in the country karate, ballet,
et cetera, which is expensive. She paid none of those bills,
barring the initial month's payments from a joint account using
my money. She didn't contribute a total of ten percent
to the fund, and she drew cash which she said
was to pay for those The owners of those schools

(01:08:49):
are now after me for the money, which is in
the dozens of thousands. Oh oh my goodness. I have
instigated legal action, but until that happens, I'm on the
hook for the entire balance.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Hope this explains it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
So We have edit number two more context around the
DM comments about but she's right, it was your choice
to do all that for I don't have any family
in a twenty hour drive radius anymore. Her family just
owned her and threw her out years ago. To start with,
we had some real hard times not long after our
daughter was born, because of an economic crunch in my country,

(01:09:24):
with no rising wages to combat that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
I know it was my choice.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
To help build the two of us up, but when
I didn't have gas, train or bus money, I was
walking to and from work to feed someone who stayed
home and looked after our baby, something I still see
as a fair half of the bark. Okay, I can
see that, you know, taking care of the baby. That's
a lot of work too. Yeah, absolutely, that said, thirteen
miles there, thirteen miles back in rain, snow, sun, whatever,

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no matter how sick, I got seven days a week
because I needed the extra shifts. I didn't eat well
for those horrible seven months. Times were that bad. I
did it to say, but I did this for you.
It was always we earned this for ourselves. For her
to do this to me and our kid at this point,
knowing what the heck I'd put myself through to get
us here, getting her the cushy job she has today.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
It grates me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Sorry for the rant, but that it was your choice too.
She also used those words. Argument tells me how dead
in the water we might be as a global society.
Wows just taken down is a whole viewpoint on humanity.
Guys like, so freaking sucks man. Yeah, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
You're saving You're doing as much work as possible, yes,
to look after your wife and kids, or your partner
and kid, and she's just taking that money.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
This is a two parter forgive the second update post,
but there's a new question at the end. These two
things tie into each other, so rather one post for
everything right, there is this here and an ama that
will be posted on Twitch this Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Details follow at the end of the post. Well, good
plug dude.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
My apologies that this is a lot less exciting than
the previous parts, but I've seen enough questions the DM
to make me post this. So my current situation, X
and I are on speaking terms when it pertains to
our little one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
That's fair, that's nice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
While it has not been much, she has contributed somewhat
to her tuition and school costs over the last two months.
For reference, the current split on the essential cost is
approximately eighty five percent for me and the remaining fifteen
percent from her. She and the original ap co signed
on a lease about ten minutes drive from my house,
and just about a month later they broke up. She

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was almost immediately engaged to someone else. He seems to
be nice, to be fair, and the original ap was
out of the picture. These people all work for the
same company, and it seems that she's the manager. I
know this for a fact, with the original ap not
certain whether the new guy reports to her as well.
Working my day job fifty to sixty hours a week
and doing a whole lot of side jobs to make

(01:11:52):
ends meet and full time parenting while she's living her
life on the other Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
She's not helping at all. And every time, I mean, like,
you wouldn't even want her to be around your because
she would just pay your kid's life in danger.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
And she's only contributing fifteen percent of the finances while
he's putting in so much work to make that eighty
five percent. Admittedly struggling, but a lot less stress than
I have. We're getting back on our feet, slowly but surely.
But this is so crushing to say the least. I've
basically lost all the money I'd earned in the past
sixteen years through all of this, and her constant response,

(01:12:23):
and her constant response is but it was your choice
to support me. That is so messed up, so messed up,
so messed up. Like the new question is I've found
someone else that's so nice.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Okay, all right, okay, alright. Look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
We were an item from twenty ten to twenty fourteen,
and we're just in two very different phases of life
at the time. And now we're back together, and she's
been wonderful helping support where she can mentally, emotionally, and
even financially on occasion. Of course, I pay that back
as soon as I can each month, and she doesn't
want to hear no when I ask her not to
pay certain things or go above and beyond for myself

(01:13:04):
and my child and making our lives easier, even though
she has her own kids. She's literally been paying off
some of the bills behind my back. And it's so sweet.
It scares me because I don't know affection like this
is it PTSD.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
I'm going through.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
By the way, something is so sweet that you could
do is join us live every weekday at three pm
on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Just top our.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Profiles, tapping that's great. We had to go through all
of that mess to get here. The ex does not
want my new person meeting our kid, but wants her
new fiance to be involved.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
What do I do with this?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
I suppose what I really want advice on is while
I am infinitely grateful for her as a person keeping
my mind straight in her assistance with everything else, she
says it's just money and that she doesn't care about it.
She just wants me back at my best to focus
on us. But I feel somewhat uncomfortable with it, as
I don't like feeling as though I owe someone. How

(01:13:57):
do I lay down some boundaries with my new person
doing such wonderful things for me? Would that spoil things
between us?

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
I think that you can just say, like, hey, I
really appreciate everything that you do. I just never wanted
to feel like I'm mooching off you or anything. Right, Yeah,
but that is the end of that story.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
That is that was a lot a lot of story, a.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Lot of story. But we'll see you next time. My
husband cheated on me with our best friend.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
They don't know that I know either gonna find out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
I was about to get messy my twenty seven female
soon to be ex husband twenty seven male cheated on
me with our best friend, twenty seven female. I want
to tell him that I know, but I don't know
what to do. Hi'all. I'm sorry that this is long,
and I'm sorry if it's confusing. By the way, this
comes from alas it's cast on the Okay Storytime Separate It.

(01:14:46):
So back in November of twenty twenty three, am I
soon to be ex Jay sat me down and told
me that he wasn't in love with me anymore. While
our best friend and roommate Marie was away on work trip.
I begged him to try and work it out and
go to couple's therapy, and at first he agreed. Quickly
after he asked me for space, and I went and
stayed at my sister's house out of state for the

(01:15:06):
entire month of December twenty twenty three while he and
Marie stayed at the house. Getting a little suspicious about
this Marie character. Something's fishy. Marie didn't reach out to
me once, and she was supposed to be my best friend.
New Year's weekend, Jay asked me if he could have
even more space and asked that we don't talk for
the weekend so that he can think about our relationship.

(01:15:27):
I obliged, hoping he would want to stay, but in
my heart I knew it was over. On Monday, New
Year's Day, I called him midday because I was under
the impression that I could since the weekend was over.
He didn't know, but he accidentally picked up my call
and I heard him yelling about how I was annoying
to him, and he was doing exactly what he said
by not answering my calls, so I hung up the phone. Eventually,

(01:15:50):
he called me back and I asked him why he
was yelling. He told me someone cut him off while
he was driving to Walmart. He told me he couldn't
talk as he was doing something for work. I got
panicky about the lack of communication with our marriage on
the line and called Marie. She never picked up the
phone and eventually texted that she was driving back from
a rave she went to that weekend and couldn't talk,

(01:16:11):
or maybe you were driving back from an affair. Later
on that day, I told Jay that I could feel
that something was off, and he called me and told
me that he wanted a divorce. I flew back home
in January, thinking we could live in separate rooms and
fix up the house to sell. It's in both of
our names. Maybe a week or two into that, he
told me he couldn't live with me anymore. Due to

(01:16:33):
my pay and how we split up our pets. It
made the most sense for me to move out and
for him and Marie to stay. Hindsight is twenty twenty.
How is op not realizing, like Marie's literally living with
her husband.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Yeah, Like, there's just so many of their stories that
don't make sense separately. But then when he put them together.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Put those little snap let those snaps is fire. Yeah.
After I moved out, I went over to the house
almost weekly to do my laundry, and I attempted to
be friends with him. The next ten months, I was
devastated trying to figure out why Marie was pulling away
from me and barely giving me the time of day.
Jay was telling me one thing and talking to me
like he cared that I was struggling with his cited

(01:17:13):
reasons for the divorce. He called me manipulative, but said
he knew it was malicious, but it was all talk.
I know that being friends right after a separation isn't smart,
but they were my only support system as I live
halfway across the country from any friends or family. The
whole time, I thought something was going on between Jay
and Marie, but they both said no, and I felt

(01:17:34):
guilty for thinking that. Low of my best friends loel.
I was tearing myself apart. I was in therapy weekly
and questioning every single thought I had, wondering if I
was being manipulative. I wanted to die, moving back a
little bit so he can move forward. Jay had quit
his job back in February when I moved out, and
finally found one that was going to hire him in

(01:17:54):
September on the East Coast. We decided that we would
sell the house in September. When I went over to
do laundry with my clothes already in the washing machine,
Jay and Marie told me that Marie was going with him.
They told me again that nothing was going on between them.
After they sat and stared at me for twenty minutes
while they tried to form a coherent response. While having
a panic attack and having them tell me that they

(01:18:16):
need to be selfish and think about themselves. I think
that's the only thing they've been thinking about.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're lacking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
That at all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
This is actually so the audacity that these two people
have to literally be living together and then be moving
away together and still tell ope nothing's going on, Like, no,
we we're just friends. We're just friends, You're just best
the activity.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
We never like cheated with you or on you at all, Like, no.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
We're just we're just doing this too. It's for better
our mental health. Yeah, that's it. That's it, Eliot. I
escaped to the laundry rooms, sat down on the floor
and sobbed. Eventually, Marie came in and found me and
held me while I was sobbing. She looked me in
the eyes and told me that she would never do
something like that to me. It seems like you're doing

(01:19:04):
it right now. Oh, Jay looked me in the eyes
and promised me that nothing was going on. After that moment,
I told Marie that her choice was made at the
expense of our friendship. She told me she was sorry
things turned out this way and that she hoped I'd
find happiness. I haven't spoken to her since she blocked
me on some social media's and I finished the job
and blocked her on the ones she missed. Jay and

(01:19:26):
I barely speak since he left. He didn't even wish
me a happy birthday. Two days ago, a mutual friend
heard my side of the story and they informed me
that the New Year's Eve weekend, Jay was actually also
at that rave where he shared a hotel room with
Marie and told our mutual friend that he was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
About her, very very very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Very so interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
You freaking liars, And she's still like looking at her
while she's crying. Yeah, and it's like I would never
do that too. Oh, absolutely not. How how can you
with yourself? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
I feel like I might actually explode from anger. They
spent almost an entire year lying to my face and
making me feel like I was crazy. By the way,
if you're crazy about us, you can join us live
every WEEKDA at three PMPSD on YouTube. Just tap her profile.
And there is a little bit left to this story.
But do you have anything, anything at all left to
say about these horrible people? I just horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
It just that just sucks. It just sucks because she's
moved across the country. Yeah, this is her like only
sports system. Yeah, pretty much her friend and her husband,
and they're being a little bit too supportive of each other.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Yes, and they're having this affair for over a year.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Now and gas lighting the heck got her gas lighting
so hard, like, oh my goodness, Like, that's just so
hard to have your trust like played back by both
you know, your husband and your best friend. Yeah, she
was like sobbing on the floor about this. Suff and
then the best friend is like, kid, or.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Do that goold?

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Yes? She would, of course, Like you're doing it actively,
You're doing do it. That's just that blows my viy ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
I want to tell him that I know, and I
want to tell him how disgusting he is. But her
house is still on the market and he's waiting to
file for divorce until it's sold. What should I do?
I don't know if burning the bridge would affect how
this process will go, if we'll make it more difficult.
I really don't know what to do. I typed out
a long message to send him, and all my friends
want me to, but I'm scared it will make the

(01:21:31):
process difficult. I feel like I'm being eaten alive out
of anger and discuss. Though I'm sorry this is long,
there's just so much that looking back on was a
clear sign things I didn't even include, and I wanted
to believe them so badly I let it destroy me.
What would you guys do? And that is the end
of that story. I think it really about, like, if
you have a lawyer, it might help that you know

(01:21:54):
that there's been infidelity and you have proof of it,
or hopefully you have proof of it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
They're waiting to get a divorce because he's gonna move out.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Is that right? I think so in the same house. Yeah, exactly,
that makes sense. So they're trying to sell this house
and they're like, She's like, I don't know if the
divorce proceedings will be made harder if I, like, you know,
bring this up. I don't want to antagonize him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Oh that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Find your other friends, move across the country to be
with them. He's this horrible man. He doesn't deserve anything. Yeah,
but that's the end of the episode. So if you
love us, make sure to subscribe.

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