My mother-in-law BRIBED me… to leave her son alone! -r/entitledparents | Reddit Stories | EP2343 - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
My mother in law bribed me to leave her son alone.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
But did she bribe you with?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
My boyfriend male thirty six and I female thirty four,
have been together a little over a year. His parents
hate me over a gift. I gave a jokey gift
in a basket of other gifts to mother in law,
not legally, but it's easier to call her that.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
On Mother's Day. Oo.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
She and father in law have been just awful, but
the siblings in significant others have had my back as
well as my boyfriend. By the way, this comes from
easier think she's my throwaway and if you want to
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Speaker 1 (00:56):
I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, I'm Riley, and we.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Try to give our best advice, but we haven't experienced
every situation we read about.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
We're not perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
If you would do things differently, comment what you would
do So last night I stepped out to tend my
garden and had to get some stuff out of my car.
There was a letter on my car op We are
deeply sorry if we offended you. Please understand that we
as parents love our children and you have now taken
all of them from us.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
This smear campaign is going overboard. Please do not be cruel.
And also a check for fifteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
What just happened in the story what.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
I showed this to my boyfriend and he took pictures
and sent it in the sibling group chat. This morning
was a blizzard of calls and texts. My boyfriend got
text from his mom and he asked the obvious WTF.
She said she figured that was a peace offering, as
she knew I grew up poor.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Oh oh, so that was done with bad intentions.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
The rest of the talk went something like this. My
boyfriend told his mom that she had gone too far.
He said he was sorry, but this was over the line,
and told her that we were no contact now and
that she was not to contact us, not to come
onto our property, and not to come near us.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
He told her to just stop.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
His mother replied that she only wanted to protect him,
but if he wanted to be stubborn, then so be it.
She told him he could keep me if that was
what he wanted, but warned him not to lose them.
She reminded him that they were his parents and that
they loved him, and that while I could leave him
at any time, parents never abandoned their children.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
They just pay other people to abandon them.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
The cerently you just threatened him that he would lose you.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yeah, no, they're not. They're not making sense at all.
This is all over a gift in a basket.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
We don't even know what it was, and from this
like probably.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
A cheap gift, like a cheap silly like.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Ha ha ha, a silly he ha hahuh gift a
little te So. My boyfriend told her that if she
truly loved him, she would have accepted the person he loves.
He said he knew very well she didn't like me,
because she had made that very clear. She answered by
saying I was no good, but admitted it wasn't her choice.

(03:24):
She told me he had to make his own mistakes.
She sent a wall of text why I am not
good for him? The very apparent reasons of me being
queer and not religious. Were there, but here are my
favorite other ones. I am thinn, so clearly I must
be on substances my garden, and clearly I am growing substances.

(03:45):
I am of a particular race, and in certain parts
of town, that race sells substances. Our children will be
sick because I will do substances while pregnant. Oh and
I like anime, which means I'm immature. There were more,
but it's just bizarre effing heck advice. It doesn't seem
very bizarre. It feels like they think that you are

(04:08):
on substances, are slang in and sm smoking the Devil's
let us.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
That's crazy, every single reason besides anime.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
About substances, and that's just the ones that they wrote down.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yeah, I'm sure there was more about subs.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, we have an update, but like we already know
what I would do. I'm taking that.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm taking the fifteen K.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I'm going no contact.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
I take the fifteen K, and I go, uh, let
me know, when you wake up out of your stupor
and you come to your senses and realize the way
you talked about my partner, it's unacceptable.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
I am probably questionably not taking the money, but definitely not.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Talking to them atter like principle or like fear that
they'll retaliate.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
More so, like even though they were like terrible to me,
I wouldn't like, I just wouldn't want their money. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, it's my money. Once it's mine, say it used
to be your money.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
The way that it came from. And potential retaliation, not
that I think that they could retaliate against that. It
would just be like another stress and another headache that
I'd just be like, oh my god, I don't want
to I if my partner wanted to cash it, sure, yeah,
he can take me on a vacation with it, but
nothing that I'm personally not putting it in my bank.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
He can put it in his bank. Well, he can't
put it in his bank. It's got your name on it.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Maybe it has both their names on it. You don't know,
breakup money, yeah, okay, yeah, I don't know. I don't
know that I could put it in my account.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Update, So for those who followed my previous post, there's more.
It is now September, and for a while things had
actually calmed down I was relaxing, and we as a
family minus Ben's parents, still got together and stayed in touch.
After everyone, all the siblings plus their spouses collectively bowed

(06:04):
out of mother in law's birthday in August, my boyfriend
Ben Mail thirty six, blocked her number for the day
because of the onslaught of woe is Me messages and voicemails.
I wasn't involved, and frankly, it seemed to overwhelm him. Then,
not long after, father in law reached out on his
own and offered a real apology to me directly. He
said he missed his kids, especially Ben, and didn't try

(06:27):
to excuse mother in law's behavior anymore. I respected that.
He seemed very sad and sincere, and he's been slowly
getting back into the family. He's mostly quiet, but verbally
kind and thoughtful. He didn't tell mother in law about
any of this, which becomes relevant.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Once mother in law realized father in law was seeing
everyone behind her back, she paned. She sent me an
Instagram DM. Yes really, and that alone was shocking because
this woman barely knows how to work her iPhone, let
alone Instagram. The message was long, but not an apology
more of an I'm sorry you feel that way, dressed
in guilt sprinkles and vague sadness. I wasn't going to respond,

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but she begged Ben and eventually asked to meet in
person to offer a real apology.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, if you can't write one, how am I gonna
think you can say one?

Speaker 5 (07:19):
I feel like she's just using the like I want
to do it face to face kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, like, I'm not buying it.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
So last Friday we met with her, and I'm going
to be real with y'all. She cried, not big sobs,
but quiet tears. She was clearly trying to hold back.
She apologized for her attitude in words and said she
didn't want to be estranged from the family anymore. Honestly,
I felt like a bully, which is crazy because she

(07:48):
believes you just calls you poor. Yeah she's doing She's
perfectly manipulating you right now. She seemed so small and broken,
and I thought, what if she really is trying? So
I checked in with the sibling group chat and asked
what they thought. Every single one of them said the
same thing. If I'm okay with it, she can be
invited to the Labor Day barbecue we were hosting in

(08:10):
our place, so.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I invited her.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, I know, I don't need to be told how
much of a moron I am. The barbecue went fine,
everyone got along, Mother in law stayed polite. Nothing dramatic happened,
and honestly, it was a good time. The whole family
was back together, and despite it being a little awkward,
everyone was sweet to one another. I loved it, and

(08:34):
Ben was cautiously happy. But this morning, the day after,
I got a text from Ben as I was about
to start cleaning up. I had taken paid time off
today to recover from hosting, he said, Mother in law
texted him saying she couldn't find her loops. You know
those noise canceling earplugs. They're pretty pricey. She didn't accuse

(08:54):
me outright, but said something like, I don't want to
assume anything.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
But I'm just confused.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
I know mine were pink, and I saw pink ones
out in the open yesterday. Oh my god, I'm hoping
they just got misplaced and OPI didn't want to replace
hers with mine.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Wow, you didn't last very long, mother in law.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Mm mmmm.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Then she added that she was willing to buy me
replacements of my own if I returned hers. Now here
is the cherry on top. Ben bought her a pink
pear and me a purple pear. Earlier this year, he
remembered her saying she didn't like loud spaces, and I
get over stimulated easily at work and went out. We

(09:37):
had separate colors. I didn't even wear mine yesterday, as
I mentioned to everyone that I couldn't find where in
the house I had misplaced mine. I later found mine
in my jacket pockets. I immediately started cleaning and checking,
and lo and behold, her loops were in their original
case on the bathroom ottoman, right next to the sink

(09:58):
where she'd left her She left them full stop.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah, I could have guessed that one.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
But now I'm pissed. I feel bad that I am,
but I am. I'm not sad. I'm just pissed, not
because she misplaced something, but because she implied I may
have taken them in my own house. After I welcomed
her back. Yeah yeah, Ben texted her and let her
know we found them. He didn't engage beyond that, and

(10:27):
she didn't respond. No apologies, no oops, just silence. Now
I feel gross. I let her back in, I hosted,
and I forgave, and the first thing she does is
try to quietly stir doubt about me again. Get the
f out of here, dude. Ben is working and running errands,
and I'm glad of that because I need the space

(10:49):
to burn through my anger and focus on cleaning and housework.
But this is so frustrating. And there's a second update.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh god, she's terrible.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
She's the worst. I'm like, yeah, you gave her the
chance after her sad little apology, and she ruined it.
The very first time she was back in your house.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
The very first opportunity she has. Yes, she did it, Yep,
she did.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
She tried to say that you stole something. She planted
her own headphones in your bathroom to be like, oh
my god, she stole them.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's just crazy to be like, if she gives me
back mine, I'll buy her a new pair because she's
so poor.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Just buy yourself that same thing. Uh yeah, mm hmmm
mmmmm mmmm mmm. Update number two.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
So Ben came home last night and I took the
liberty of cooking dinner, which was funny because he had
takeout from my favorite place.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
We both looked at each other like uh oh, we
knew it was serious.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
We sat down and started in on both meals buffet
style and started talking. Thankfully, we were both on the
same page. It broke his heart, but he just can't
give her and he also doesn't trust her, and I
felt the same. We cried because Ben had been on
the fence about a new job opportunity. It's not in
the bag, but he didn't know whether to throw his
hat into the ring. It won't take us too far,

(12:12):
but far enough, and he hesitated to be that far
from his aging parents. We would move together and possibly
look at getting engaged in the next year or so.
We want a long engagement, so that would be perfect
if he got the higher paying job, and we could
really start saving for the wedding and honeymoon. On that note,
I looked at him and point blank asked, so she

(12:34):
would end up being invited? He paused, but then suggested
a small dinner with family. If she's reformed by then,
we're talking a year at least into the future, maybe
she could go to that, but she would have to
prove to me she can be trusted enough to go
to the wedding. She is his mother, and he hates
to hurt her, but he knows it would hurt me

(12:54):
more to have her duplicity ruin our wedding, So it
is what it is. He's not taking any of it
life lately, but he's determined, and I believe him. He's
also angry and hurt due to her behavior. As for
the here and now, her things will be mailed with
a letter we both wrote together. The letter outlines all
her behavior and that Ben and I are a team

(13:15):
and operate as such. It explains that she is responsible
for her actions and what they cause, and this time
it caused such distrust and harm that she is back
in time out. She is to be no contact with
me entirely, and extremely low contact with Ben. He won't

(13:36):
respond to her directly, only via text, and only as necessary.
Health and life updates go through his brother, who volunteered,
who will share with everyone else emergency is notwithstanding. She
is not to contact us at all. Ben will not
be reaching out or updating her. She is to refer
inquiries to the brother, who will only share what we

(13:57):
explicitly say he can. He is not even to so
much as refer to me at all. She's entirely blocked anyway.
She's not to show up at my door or work
or anything like that. If we are to cross paths
in public, we will be polite but will not engage,
and she is expected to do the same. Ben loves
her and is saddened by her behavior and confused as

(14:20):
to why, but he no longer wishes to give her
any additional chances beyond honoring our wishes. We typed and
printed the letter and will email it as well tomorrow,
just for the sake of a paper trail. The siblings
and significant others are all in agreement of similar, if
not identical standards, not just because of me, but because

(14:42):
the more it's discussed, the more everyone is realizing. She
is actually baited and just was extremely subtle about it
until I came along. Everyone is disgusted, except for the brother,
who will remain in contact, but he has the medical
training and info to help the parents and thus is
the contact person. He's okay with the arrangement and in
fact volunteered. Mother in law is ill but not terminal

(15:05):
or anything of that nature, and father in law helps
her manage, but.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
He's older, so they relied on the kids.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Now they just have limited availability with the one son
father in law, so far as in the clear. He
didn't know about mother in law accusing me until Ben asked,
and father in law apologized a lot and even extended
the apology to me. In a text chat with me
and Ben both in it, he explained that he truly
hoped she got forgetful, but the accusation was over the line.

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He even asked if she had everything when they left,
and she said she did. She had her wallet and
house keys, so he thought he misremembered and that was
all she had brought to my place.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I think this was the right call. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
I feel like everything that you guys talked about you
sounded on the same page, and he was down. Moving
away would be like a cool start. I feel like
the whole wedding thing if if she can prove that
she's cooler in the future, somehow you still put like
the coolest of his siblings on like mother in law

(16:06):
duty and the second that she does like anything like
I'm not even I don't even know that she gets.
Oh she gets a pre wedding warning like you do
one thing, you're out.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah, I mean maybe even put father in law on
there because he seems like maybe father in.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Law thinking father in law. I think father in law
for sure, but I think there should still be a
sibling that's willing to enforce. Yeah. I don't know if
father in law is going to her out if that
means that he has to leave with her, true, if
it means he might be able to stay.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, And it's like, who knows.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
There's time for her to make amends and change and
apologize and make progress, but seems.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Like a stubborn goat.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
So disgusting.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
I am tired and back to work today. Ben left
the box for his mom in an overnight delivery yesterday.
I feel awful, but thankful he and the majority of
the family are on my side. Ben's aunt has been
pestering him to show respect and properly love his mother,
as has her husband and some cousins, but so far

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he hasn't cared and they only contact him.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's it. I guess.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
I think the saga is otherwise over unless she burns
my house down or something crazy, and I think she
is simply too lazy for that level of insanity. Hopefully
Ben gets the job, but if not, I'm still applying elsewhere.
As well for higher pay, and we've agreed we will
move based on pay.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
And that is the end of that story.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
My sister in law demanded her children be at my wedding,
but I don't want them there.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Get those kids out of my sight. I.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Thirty two female, and my future husband, thirty four male,
are getting married in four months. My sister in law,
Amy has twin girls that will be twelve months old
and a six year old son. So a year old
and the six year old son. Yeah, by the way,
this comes from Everlasting Sunshine. And if you want us
to make your own stories, go to the r slash

(18:07):
Okay storytime subreddit.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I'm Carly, I'm Dakota, I'm keon Oh, and we'll try
to give our best advice.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
But we haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves, so
if you have, let us know your take in the comments.
And Opie says, prior to the twins being born, I
had a conversation with Amy where she said to me
she was looking forward to knowing at the twelve month
mark there would be a child free evening where she

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could let loose and she didn't want her kids there.
I said that we would love to have our six
year old as the flower boy, and we agreed that
he would be part of the ceremony and then be
driven the short distance home to join his sisters with
a babysitter during the reception. Fast forward to now, Amy
is shopping for dresses for the twins for the wedding day.

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I was confused to hear about it and asked why
Amy seems to have forgotten our conversation and wants her
twins at the wedding. I've been gentle, but I have
said that it was only the six year old that
was planned to be there, and I wasn't too keen
on the younger kids being there. Mother in law and
sister in law are upset with my future husband and

(19:20):
I about this decision. Mother in law has pushed for
the whole family to be in the photographer's family portraits
on the day, as the whole family will be together
and dressed nice. Sister in law has said, your family
deserves to be at your wedding and has also said
she doesn't want the six year old to be attending

(19:41):
events without the twins because he has trouble adjusting to
them and is always asking to leave them behind. That
six year old's like, I don't want my siblings there.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, ew gross snow IW.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Sister in law doesn't want to encourage that behavior by
having him attend anything without them, and so she has
said that either all her kids come or none will.
This conversation was tense, and I am very conflict avoidant.
I left it there unresolved. Future husband doesn't want the
twins there, as they do summon a considerable amount of

(20:20):
attention and he wants people focused on us. I don't
really care if they are there or not, but I
do feel like I've been dismissed by sister in law
and mother in law, and they've tried to change plans
without letting me know, and then tried to guilt trip
me when I called it out. Now it kind of
feels like an ultimatum is being set, and the whole

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attitude around it has me wanting to put my foot
down and push back. My future husband and I have
offered up some compromises. We are having a gathering with
all the same people the night before the wedding, and
all their side of the family will be around for
the morning after the wedding, where the twins would be
welcomed there and we would be able to get some

(21:00):
great photos and have time together, but we would still
have our wedding be child free with the exception of
flower boy. But this was just completely dismissed. I just
want to know if I'm overreacting by saying they can't attend.
You have some relevant comments, straight up.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Always the same answer, It is your wedding. Yeah, your wedding,
your rules.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
The issue that they're having here though, is that they
will be down a flower boy if the twins can't come,
the six year old's not coming, which is a poopy
get the.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Best man to be the flower funny.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
I feel like if you ask somebody in like already
in the wedding, like best man or somebody else that
you're like you're really close with, that's not a part
of the wedding. Yeah, you can find a replacement. That's not,
you know, that difficult.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
There's a reason they give the job to a child.
It is very easy to do. You can find someone
to do that.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Uh, we have some relevant comments. Comment are one, it's
your wedding, and sister in law and mother in law
should have been more a respectful about how they approached
you about these concerns. That having been said, I would
gently suggest that you and your fiance may want to
rethink how you're handling this. It is unusual to invite
one child and not other siblings, and I don't follow

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the concern about twelve month old twins stealing attention from you.
If you hold firm, which is absolutely within your right,
it means there will possibly be lingering, hard feelings with
your sister in law and mother in law going forward,
and that you need to be okay with that. Just
my two cents, and OP responds, Yes, I know it's

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weird to invite just one sibling.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Is it that weird?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
When the other siblings are a year old, they're taught,
they're babies, they're infants?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Basically, yeah, Mike, they're not gonna remember it. The six
year old probably will remember it.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Who even wants to bring infants to a wedding when
you could have a babysitter?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
H Like, what where is the desire to do that?

Speaker 5 (22:59):
That was the whole thing is she was so excited
about having like not having to have the twins there
the night.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
They had talked about it before, and it was like cooling.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
To be like no, like the six year old needs
to know his sisters have to come with them, and
it's like okay, but like we can make one exception.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, it just seems like a weird place to start,
being like we need to teach him to protect his
shipley right.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Uh, yes, I know it's weird to just invite one sibling.
That's just how the original conversation landed, and it made
sense at the time. We have a di wife ven
you and keeping things in budget. We have family and
friends helping out with a few things. Amy's husband was
given the job of dogminder for our large dog. Mother
in law was to be make the dog the flower

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girl and the ring bear. Mother in law was to
be performing as wedding coordinator type role. We feel like
that's a lot to handle. If you're chasing around twins,
it's not so much about stealing any spotlight. It's more
about things running smoothly. Hope that makes a bit more sense,
and commentar two says, hold up, your large dog will

(24:06):
be there and needs a handler. The handler is the
father of the twins. The twins can't attend because they
will be a distraction, but I think the dog must
also be a distraction that requires a handler. If I
were Amy, I'd be upset that my husband was assigned
dog duty and then we were told our kids weren't welcome.
I just don't think you can ask people to diyatt

(24:27):
for you so you can save money and then also
tell them unpaid labor to pay for a babysitter so
you can have your preferred child free wedding. Sounds to
me like Amy's family is providing a lot flower boy,
dog wrangler and possibly more, and you and your fiance
aren't being very considerate of that. And I don't agree
with that commenter. I think if they want their dog there,

(24:48):
they can.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Have their dog there.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
And that the part that kids that are not yours
can come after your dog because it's your wedding, same.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Thing, your wedding, your rules, but like also like people
can decide not to come to your wedding based on
your rules.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
And also but it's your wedding.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
You could make someone else a dog handler if they're willing.
If he needs to watch the twins, I'm sure someone
would be down to chill with the dog on it.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's me the dog mind eh.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Communda three. I would compromise and agree that, Okay, no
kids whatsoever then and go without a flower boy. I
almost feel like a six year old little boy would
be just as much of a loud distraction as two
one year old And your entire wedding is child free anyways,
so it would be odd that one single small child
is the exception to that. Just avoid the whole thing

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and leave all the kids out of it. Opie responds, Yes,
I feel like that's a great option. Totally unfair on
the six year old, though, as he's been told all
about it and he's so excited.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't want to do that to the poor kid.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Opie on should she get her fiance to deal with
his mother and sister, Opie says, we are working on
this together. This post is from my perspective for the
purpose of sharing it with him in a moment, and
then Opi responds to a comment on her future husband
wanting time and space to have his parents' full attention
for the wedding and not being distracted by the twins.

(26:14):
Obi says, you're spot on, future husband and I have
given a lot to his parents so they can be
around to help with the grandkids. We have had them
living in our home for the past five years because
we live close to sister in law. What that means is,
for the past five years, every outing event or conversation
has revolved entirely around these three children. It's become quite

(26:39):
difficult for us, and future husband wants one day that's
not about them. There's obviously other reasons too, but this
is for sure a contributing factor. Amandreforre says uh In quotes,
I don't really care if they are there or not.
If you don't really care, then allow them to be
at the ceremony and in the pictures. Then go to

(26:59):
a babysitter for the reception. Ultimately, and years down the road,
you may find that you are happy you have pictures
with all of the family in them. Opie says. This
is the easy option for sure, but it's not just me.
Future husband is passed away set against it. I get
why our lives have all revolved around these kids for

(27:19):
such a long time. The mother in law and father
in law have lived with us for the past five
years because we live so close to sister in law
and they want to be around to help. But especially
in the last six months, we've been asking them to
sort out their living plans long term, as we don't
want them with us forever and we are planning starting
our married life, planning our own family, and there's a

(27:42):
lot on hold waiting for them to leave. The twins
are their excuse to stay while paying no rent, no groceries,
and no bills. But the twins need us, It's true,
but it's also made future husband resentful and me a
bit too. Future husband wants a day that doesn't revolve
around them. They have an update. Yeah, yeah, I feel

(28:04):
like the husband needs to tell this to his family, which.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm sure he's about to do it.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
I gotta do it, but it sounds like he's the
one that's way more said against it. So I feel
like coming from him, maybe the family will actually be like, okay,
like we maybe they'll.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Hear him more.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I would certainly hope.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
So as their direct family, I don't know, right, got to.

Speaker 8 (28:23):
Use those words.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Gotta use them. You're the relevant party, you gotta use
your words.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
They have an update a bit over one month later,
So future husband and I were invited to the twins'
first birthday this week. As much as I knew this
was not the right time or place to have a
discussion about a tense topic involving the exclusion of these
two babies. It came up context. One week ago, future

(28:50):
husband spoke to his brother in law, who is the
father of the twins, and again said that the babies
were not invited to the wedding. I wasn't there and
don't have further context on how this came up or
how the conversation was handled and received. When we were
around the dinner table for the birthday get together, future
husband left the room for one minute. That was the

(29:11):
moment sister in law said to me, I'd like to
check with you about what future husband said about the wedding.
He said, the babies weren't invited to the ceremony or reception.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
So is that right?

Speaker 5 (29:23):
I said, yeah, that's our plan. This is not news
to her see last post. This has been my stance
since before these kids were born.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I think this should have been not even an issue.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I think it should have been as simple as it's
my wedding, bride and groom saying here's what we want,
here's what we're looking at, here's what we're thinking, and
everyone going all right.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I can either do that or I can't do that.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
I agree, you set the options and they are like cool, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Not to mention they literally agreed to this before all
of this.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
This was an option that they were down or well, no,
they were down for none of them coming or all
of them coming.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
We don't know if at the very beginning they were
okay with it. Yeah, the very beginning it was this
was the plan. Well, yeah, you're not going to bring
one year olds.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah, and you were excited about having that night off.
I excused myself shortly after and made myself busy in
another room. Future husband sat at the table and apparently
laid down the law with his family over this and
some other issues. We left shortly after, but before we went,
sister in law said to me, I respect that this

(30:36):
is what you want, but I am really upset. Part
of me feels so guilty that I've upset her. Also
though your husband was the more set one and don't
feel bad, part of me is annoyed and perplexed by
her apparent shock at this information. As if we didn't
have this conversation a month ago. We have some comments
comment or one you really should have said in front

(30:58):
of everyone, like we talked about whatever month Our plan
has been no babies. Drive the six year old home
after the wedding. You said you were looking forward to
a night without the kids. Bet you a dollar. They're
trying to get free fancy family portraits out of the deal.
I'd be tempted to let them and then not give
them the photos of just their family. Oh, we didn't

(31:20):
have the photographer touch up every photo. You can call
them and buy those photos yourself, Opie says. I did
hear her say to future husband something like those photos
are for a lifetime. Her babies being in the photos
has come up several times. I don't understand that these
kids won't feel any attachment to an event that they

(31:40):
don't remember from when they were one exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, stop it.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
And what is Opie's plan if her sister in law
shows up to the wedding with the twins? Opie says,
I have a feeling future husband will have dealt with
that before I make my way down the aisle. That's
the end of that story.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
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Speaker 3 (32:08):
My mother in law made us leave after we took
care of them.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Oh, make them leave.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
My twenty nine male fiance twenty six female and I
have been together nearly half a decade. She just donated
part of her liver to her father because he had
end stage liver disease. They were both hospitalized for recovery.
By the way, this comes from Perfect Stranger ten thirty six,
And if you want to spit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. I'm Sophia,

(32:35):
I'm Carly, No, I'm Keon, and we'll try to give
our best advice. But we haven't experienced most of these
situations ourselves, so if you have, let us know what
you would do. In the comments, and Opie says, as
part of the preparation for the procedures, we made arrangements
that I would be staying at her parents place with
her mom, who's fifty nine ish years old, to make

(32:57):
sure her mom wasn't alone, and to drive her back
and forth from the hospital forty five minutes to one
hour each way. I had no problem with that. I
was more than happy to do it if it meant
my fiance and my father in law were at ease,
but I knew her mom wasn't the easiest person to
deal with some history. In the early stages of our relationship,

(33:20):
my then girlfriend argued with her mom and asked if
she could come over because she was fighting with her mom.
While she was on route to us, her mom called
my mom and threatened to call the cops if we
let her in the house. Mind you, my girlfriend was
twenty two at this point. Her mom then began to
insult my mom's way of raising me and my sister's.
My mom fire back with my daughters, aren't the ones

(33:42):
running away from home because they can't stand me. That year,
I gave her mom and dad the silent treatment for
disrespecting my mom and my family. A lot of momses,
a lot of mom drama. My girlfriend asked if I
could ever forgive her, and I said no. Eventually I
did because it was important to her. You don't stick

(34:04):
to your word, Oh pie, I didn't think I could
ever forgive her. I forgave her, I did. My girlfriend
told me too, but did Anyway? Years later, I've learned
her mom is quite a piece of work. Didn't you
know that not a day goes by round her where
someone doesn't say something that she finds insulting and she
snaps at them. We're in the elevator headed to fiance.

(34:27):
Mother in law decided to see father in law, who's
still on a lower floor in SICU. I asked her
if she wanted me to accompany her. She said, now,
I know how to get around. I said, okay, you sure,
because you seem a little lost earlier. Her response, yes,
you think I'm stupid. I know how to speak English.

(34:47):
I could ask somebody if I need to. You then
addressed the random person in the elevator with us to
approve her point. Apparently I had implied she didn't know
how to speak English or ask for directions. She decided
to drive the last day because she wanted to get
used to doing it when I went back to work.
We arrived at the hospital and she nearly made a
left turn to enter the exit of the valet parking

(35:09):
lane on a two lane high traffic street. I had
to frantically say no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
please stop. She pulled into a spot perfectly, no adjustment needed.
She then kept driving to adjust as if she were
parallel parking. I said, hey, it's Okay, you don't need
to do that. You just put the car in park.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Her.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I know I had a drive. After three to four
straight days of her throwing digs at me and others,
I had enough. I told her clearly not since she
almost went into the only part that says do not enter,
and I got out of the car. I'll take responsibility
for adding fuel to the fire. Father in law is
the recipient of the liver. He is a mutal compromise presently,

(35:51):
and it is dangerous for him to get sick. We
got to the floor where their rooms are and went
to my fiance's room first. My fiance wanted to walk
to her dad's room, which was right. He was feeling
marginally better and actually wanted to get up and walk
across the hall to him.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
We did that.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Right before we entered his room, a nurse was sitting
outside entering some info into a monitor in terminal.

Speaker 8 (36:12):
Let us know we.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Needed masks, makes sense. She handed me a box and
I took out a few and distributed them to my
fiance and her mom. Fiance and I put on masks
about to enter. Then we heard excuse me, you have
to put on the mask. We turn around, Mom still
hadn't put on a mask. Mom, I didn't put it

(36:34):
on because you, the lady sitting outside the room doing
her own thing on the terminal, didn't have a mask on.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
So why should I?

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Cause you're going into the room with your sick husband.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Do you not like your husband?

Speaker 5 (36:48):
I don't think so.

Speaker 8 (36:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Do you not like your husband?

Speaker 6 (36:51):
She sounds like just rules are meant to be broken,
like do not enter? Good to break that rule? I
need to wear a mask good to break that rule.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Yeah, you can't tell me what to do driving in
the one way I can do that.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I can do whatever I want.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Mumm.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
I told her in Spanish that she needed to put
the mask on. My Spanish comes out every now and then.
It's not purposely done to imply she can't speak English.
But regardless. A male nurse walked by, who obviously heard
me speaking Spanish to her, and spoke to the mother
in law in Spanish, communicating the reasoning her cuts him off.
You could speak to me in English. He was stuck

(37:28):
because he didn't know he had just insulted her. For
her to react like that, To be fair, most people don't.
Mother in law was born in a Spanish speaking country.
She moved to the US and learned English. She speaks
English well, but there are still times where she mispronounces words,
and she has an accent that makes it pretty obvious
English isn't her first language anyway. Anytime anyone that is

(37:50):
also bilingual speaks Spanish to her, she takes it as
an insult. That is, I mean, like, okay, I get,
I get kind of where she's coming from.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
That, but like I get if, like the conversation had
before then not at all in Spanish. Yeah, maybe being
like why did you switch to Spanish suddenly? But like
you already given him sass about the mask, like it's
for your safety to wear a mask going to your
very immuno compromised husband's hospital.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Literally, the male nurse was shocked. I signaled to him
that it was okay, it wasn't him. Mother in law
finally put on the mask and we went into father
in law's room. Two point five seconds in, she yanked
the mask down underneath her chin and stood by father
in law's bedside. Mo'm beaing, I don't need to wear
a mask. I didn't wear one yesterday. Well you probably

(38:44):
should have. You probably should have worn one yesterday, Beyonce,
and I told her she needed to wear one because
he could pass away. If he passes away, my fiance's
gift part of her liver to her father, and all
this pain and suffering would have been for nothing. She exclaimed,
she didn't care what a woman, what a person. And

(39:06):
then and then at that point, honestly, I go get
a nurse. I'm like, hey, can you just kick my
mom or my mom and just leave? Just hit her
out of here. We were back in fiance's hospital room.
We needed to order a mini fridge for when fiance
and father in law got discharged and went to stay
at mother in law's house. Mother in law attempted to

(39:26):
order and try to show fiance some options. Fyance didn't
want to look at anything. She was nauseous after the
surgery and didn't want to talk or look at screens.
She said that her mom could defer to me with
the decision making. Mother in law asked me if I
had a mask up. But this is where the accent
comes into play. I looked at her, confused because I

(39:48):
had my mask on my face. Then I realized she
was saying Amazon app, and I said, oh, Amazon yes,
She sat down in the corner of the room and
mumbled to herself in Spanish. Of course, I was on
what else could it possibly be? So I apparently her
mispronouncing Amazon and me not understanding, implied that she didn't
know how to speak English. Now we get to the

(40:10):
reason for the post. Mother in law tells me throughout
the day that I can go home once we leave
and get back to her house. But she's been asking
me the last couple of days if I'm staying on
Monday and or Tuesday, and we've been discussing it. Anyway,
she tells me that, and I say, okay. This means
I would drive back forty five minutes with her to
get my car and belongings, then drive another hour and

(40:32):
fifteen minutes back the way we came from her house
to get to my home and look for street parking
on a Sunday night. Time passed throughout the day and
I realized it was getting late. He lets me know
we'll be leaving soon, and then we visit the father
in law. Somehow, father in law brings up me staying
a little longer, and she says, now it's okay, He's
leaving tonight. I still think it's an option, so I say, actually,

(40:56):
I was thinking of staying tonight too, since I can
work remote tomorrow. And cue the record scratch, No, you're
leaving tonight. You need to leave my house tonight.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Mom's just a hater.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
She's the worst, the problem with everything.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
You're literally trying to be there for your fiance and
her dad, and she's like, get out.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
I hate you.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
She looks me in the eyes, and I get the message.
She's punting me out. She says this in front of
father in law, in front of the nurse. I've been
driving this lady back and forth the last four days.
I've held my tongue when she said something slick. The
first three days, I've been embarrassed when she spasses on
people who aren't doing anything wrong. I've joked with her,

(41:37):
comforted her, and held her hand when she was crying
or scared about the surgery. I wake up whenever she
wants to drive her to the hospital. Now she's punting
me out of her home, her home, her rules, no problem.
If only we had left it at that. She didn't
leave it at that though. Right after she says that,
she tells father in law, I don't know how to drive,

(41:59):
I don't know how to speak English, I don't know
how to do anything. According to him, That's when I
had it. I let her know she was rude and annoying,
that she takes offense to everything. Nobody can ever do
anything right with her, and she acts like she can't
do anything wrong and is smarter than everyone in everything.

(42:19):
Then I left the room. I don't know where I
was headed. I just needed to leave the room and
get away from her. She proceeds to chase me out
of the room into the hallway and accuses me of
trying to leave her at the hospital and take her
car to her house without her I'm sorry what. She
kicks you out of the house and then is shocked

(42:40):
that you're leaving.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
She's like, but you're leaving.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
She's like, I'm sorry you still. I mean, you have
to leave, but you also have to pick me up
and draw me off.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
You can't stay here, but you have to come back.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, I'm shocked and bewildered. She says, give her her
house keys, my fiance's house keys to her mother in
law's house. I give her the first set of keys
I grab in my pocket, just to shut her up. Oops,
gave her my own apartment keys. Ask for them back
as I hold out the keys she wants, and she
refuses to hold out my keys. She just keeps yelling

(43:10):
give me my house keys at me in the hall.
So I go into my fiance's room so we're not
making a scene in the hall. She keeps yelling, I
give my fiance her keys. To be the mediator. She
gives the keys to her mom and her mom's throws
my keys on the bed and leaves the room to
go to father in law's room. She tells fiance she
doesn't want me in her home ever again. Security guard

(43:33):
came asked what happened, He understands, says he's gotten into
arguments with his lady's mom as well.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Then he leaves, don't you.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
I've gotten into hogments with my lady's mom all the time.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Just go women mother in law. No, just like mother
in law's.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
I tell my fiance that I've had it with her mom.
Don't ask me to go over to her mom's anymore either.
Her mind is gone to me, she says. If she
has gone to you, she's gone to me. Nice moment
of support, but that's her mom, So I doubt she
really means that.

Speaker 9 (44:10):
I'm not mad if she doesn't, do you, I mean,
did she literally her mom literally told fiance that she
didn't care about her health and was perfectly fine putting
her at risk to like infection.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
So I'm she might actually mean that she's done to
the father in law.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
She said both, I mean both of them, but I
mean because she donated it so tex for both.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Of their health. Dang man, she really does not care
about any of these people in her life. Yeah, she's
like so proud, you know, like she she has to.
She can't have any insult to her intelligence.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Proud to be a hater.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, no, just like in terms of like she has
so much pride. She's like, I can't be seen, like
I can't question me. Yeah, and anyone who questions me
is against me, even if that's your own family. I'm
just letting you know my boundaries because I don't want
to deal with her anymore. Anyway. I leave and head
to my parents' house. They drive me upstate to pick

(45:08):
up my car, and the mother in law is already home.
It's ten at night at this point. I ring the bell,
knock on the door with my fiance on the phone
on speaker. Mom doesn't answer fiance or father in law's calls.
He looks outside from her bedroom window and doesn't answer
the door downstairs. Apparently she left her phone in her car,
But I'm not buying it. I feel like this woman

(45:29):
is going to call the police on you. Yeah, I
feel like you gotta get out of there.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Accusation of yah'd be like he's.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
He's loitering outside my house.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
I could see your trying something.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, I honestly, I think you just from this point on,
like limit as much contact with her mom as you can,
because you know, a lady sounds like a nightmare, which
and we knew she was. You knew she was, and
now you just have more proof. Yeugh, But yeah, definitely start.

(46:05):
I mean, it sucks because your fiance can't really be
much of a mediator because she is still recovering. But uh,
if she wants a relationship with the mom, she's definitely
gonna have to be the mediator. Fiance says she was
about to call the town police department so they could
help me get my belongings back. I know it doesn't
guarantee you'll get my stuff, since it's a civil matter.

(46:25):
My mom discouraged her from doing so. Thankfully, I have
my work laptop and work phone on my person, so
I'll have no issues with work. The next day, I
leave with my car. I never want to deal with
this lady again. Her mom is constantly rude to people,
as disrespected me, my mom, and my family already once

(46:46):
where I forgave her and swallowed my pride, I'm done
swallowing my pride. My fiance can be in her life,
but I want nothing to do with her. Am I overreacting?
And what do you say?

Speaker 5 (46:58):
No?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I honestly I don't know how you managed with her
all this time.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Yeah yeah, If Beyonce wants to keep her around, she
can be the one that's interacting with her and everything
when she's healed and every and all good. But mom's
crazy crazy.

Speaker 8 (47:19):
My friend took my purse without permission and then lost it.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Give it back.

Speaker 8 (47:24):
So I, twenty one female, am just about to leave
from a vacation with a friend, also twenty one female,
and I'm honestly still sick over what happened a few
days ago. She took my expensive Zadig and Voltaire purse
without asking this purse was a Christmas gift for my
sister and has a huge sentimental value.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yikes.

Speaker 8 (47:44):
I've spent the past few years taking really good care
of it because it means so much to me. By
the way, this comes from such Designer five to one
eighty five and if you want to submit your own stories,
go to the r slash Okay storytime. Sepread it and
I'm Angie, I'm Sophia, and Opie says when she took it,
she did even tell me. I only found out after
the fact that she used it to go to the

(48:04):
laundromat and then in the process used my money, which
she also didn't ask to take. For context, the purse
had forty dollars in cash and a bunch of quarters,
a gift for my sister's best friend's mom, sixty euros
in notes, and at least twenty euros in coins, so
we're talking over one hundred euros total, not to mention

(48:25):
the purse itself. And now the purse has got she
lost it. I was obviously upset, not yelling or blaming her,
just crying and saying that I wasn't mad, just hurt.
I told her how much that purse meant to me
and how hard I've worked to keep it safe for years.
Instead of apologizing, she got huffy with me, rolled her eyes,

(48:45):
and said, how much does it cost? I'll just replace
it in this angry, dismissive tone. She has a very
defensive and confrontational nature that makes me feel bullied and small,
so I find it hard to stand up to her.
But it's not just about the money. It's about trust
and about losing something deeply personal to me. Since then,
she hasn't apologized at all. In fact, she's acting annoyed

(49:08):
that I'm upset. Now We're on the last night of
our trip and I've decided to just be neutral and
quiet for the journey home. But once we're back, I
planned to stop speaking to her entirely. I feel like
she violated my boundaries, disrespected my belongings, and is now
making me feel like I'm too sensitive for being hurt.
But some mutual friends are already making me feel like

(49:29):
I'm being dramatic and should let it go because it's
just a bag. So am I the a hole for
cutting her off and refusing to speak to her after this?
Absolutely not? Oh, there are some comments. Comment number one says,
she's not a friend. She also needs to pay you
back for the purse she stole it. Actually, so she's
a thief, So your choice on how to handle that
going forward. Not the A hole Opie says she agrees

(49:52):
to reimburse me, which I accepted, but I haven't spoken
with her further about it as I've been too upset
to look up the cost of the purse, and also
I have I haven't told her the amount that was
in the purse. I plan to do so in two
days time, where I will post the update after I
discussed with her my true feelings about this. Comment to says,
not the A hole, I don't know why you say
you weren't angry, just hurt. I'd be furious as well

(50:13):
as hurt. She's still from you. She violated your trust.
She's deflecting as if you're the one making a big
deal about it, as if what she took was a
candy bar and not an expensive bag costing hundreds of
dollars or euros as well as a bunch of cash.
Why would you want to stay friends with someone who
would do that? If she won't pay you back in
cash for the money and the bag, I'd post this

(50:34):
all of our social media with her name attached as
a warning to others, because I doubt a police report
will get you anywhere. At this point, Hope says, I agree,
but getting angry with the girl like her it doesn't work.
It only invigorates her, it seems. I am genuinely heartbroken
as this has huge sentimental value, but also the amount
of money in it may not be large to most,

(50:55):
but is a lot to a student nurse in college
whose parents are not wealthy enough to support my college
fees and living expenses like hers are. When I received
nice things, I aim to keep them for a long time.
She just lost my belongings like it was nothing and
never apologized. We do have an update. On the flight home,
she asked me to mind her passport in my bag,

(51:19):
even though she had her own backpack. I agreed just
to keep the peace because I didn't want to deal
with any attitude or fighting. When we landed, she turned
to me and asked, do you have my passport in
a snappy tone. I was still hurt and wanted to
get one last jab in, so I said, using the
exact words she said to me all week about missing
my purse. I was checking my bag the whole time

(51:39):
to make sure your passport was there. But maybe it'll
show up when we get off the plane, I regretted,
saying it immediately. She snapped in front of other passengers,
finally acknowledging that I had been upset about the purse,
but in the most cruel and dismissive way. She said, well,
at least I didn't throw a hissy fade bawling.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Crying for hours over a purse.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
That was the last straw acknowledged my obvious upset, yet
still would not apologize. Once we got our bags at
the airport, I told her I wanted to check her
suitcase for my purse. Good I said, if she refused,
I'd involve the police. She tried to say I was
violating her privacy, which is hilarious considering she took my
purse and went through my belongings. I told her, if

(52:20):
it wasn't there, then she had nothing to be worried about.
I also made it clear that I wasn't going to
touch any of her stuff and that I wasn't interested
in taking other people's belongings without permission, just checking for
what is mine. She was absolutely fuming, face red shaking,
visibly furious. Then she shoved her bag at me and
told me to go ahead. I opened a zipped compartment.

(52:43):
Inside was a black trash bag. Inside that was a
red Target bag inside that drum roll my part. She
never lost it.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
She stole it. Oh my gosh, I knew it.

Speaker 8 (52:55):
I was thinking that it she like stole the purse
and that's why she lost it. But what confused me
was the fact that she was so willing to pay
for it again. So I was like, why would you
steal it if you're you know what I mean? Yeah,
but she's stop. Oh my gosh. All of the money
was still inside, the cash, the euro coins, but no quarters.

(53:17):
I was honestly so shocked I couldn't even ask why
she had it or what her plan was. I just
said thanks and walked away with my stuff. I got
on the bus home and haven't spoken to her since.
I wish I hadn't been so emotionally drained to have
given her a piece of my mind. She's since blocked
me with no apology or explanation. As a side note,

(53:38):
her mom, who doesn't know we're not speaking, called me
at three am crying this mom was saying how badly
she feels treated by her daughter, her husband, and how
she's constantly belittled.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Why is she calling you at there, yeah in the morning.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
Why is this mom talking to you, a twenty one
year old, about how bad you're treated by her daughter?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Weird.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
I won't get into any of what had just happened,
but it definitely gave me more perspective. This is a
cruel girl and horrendous person with a little to no empathy,
and I think maybe it's sociopath and there is a
little bit bored to this story. But my goodness, this girl.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Whoe this girl.

Speaker 8 (54:20):
I'm so glad that she got her purse back. Yeah,
me too. And you know she did confront her, Yeah,
and got it back. It wasn't just that she had
to be mad at her for stealing it or something.
She got it back and now she's not friends with
her anymore.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I would be sending a picture of the bag to
all of the friends that said get over it and say, hey,
she had it, she had it in her bag, She's
hit it trying to steal it.

Speaker 8 (54:42):
Hidden within two other bags.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah, so she definitely knew that she had it.

Speaker 8 (54:47):
Yeah, Anyway, I got my purse back, but the whole
thing left a really bad taste in my mouth. I
still don't fully understand what she was trying to do,
and honestly, I don't think I want to. I'm just
relieved it's over. What do you guys think she was
aiming to do with the purse? Very little of my
money inside was used. So strange and there isn't edits.
She stole it for the coins for the launch, just

(55:08):
for the coins, and then decided to keep the person. Yes,
I mean this is kind of nice. Actually, yeah, if
it was an expensive purse, I'm thinking that she just
wanted it. Yeah, that's all. And she's gonna use the
money leader she knows she had it, she didn't need
to spend it right away. But there is a little edits.
I didn't realize this would gain so much traction so quickly,
thinking everybody. Also, she chronically watches YouTube videos where they

(55:28):
review Reddit stories like this one. I'm just laughing at
thinking about if this came up. I feel like she's
so self absorbed that she would not clog that it's
about her. And there are some comments, why haven't you
told your friends and her mom about what happened. It's
like you want her to rewrite the story to make
you the villain, Opie says. My friends are aware, and

(55:50):
my entire family they told me they are disgraced by
her behavior and to cut off contact with her. The
friends on vacation, however, whether they sided with her or
were actually too afraid to side with me, I'm not sure.
I haven't reached out to them, and from advice from
the previous post, I'm not going to continue my relationships
with them. I can't be friends with someone who is

(56:10):
too weak to stand up for me. Her mother was
drinking and driving and in a bad spot, so I
felt that it was not the right time to bring
up the situation, and she was very upset.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Also, why would you, I don't even think you need
to tell her mom what she took you over with
her mom exactly.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
I mean, yeah, if the mom is calling ope.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
At three am, she's clearly unhinged.

Speaker 8 (56:30):
Yeah, so this there's no reason she knows that her
daughter is not a good person. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
And also she doesn't seem like that grade of a
person if she's drinking and driving and calling you at
three am. A random twenty one year old, right, like,
clearly something's going on there.

Speaker 8 (56:46):
Coming number two says, what's the resell value on that purse?
My first thought was that she was trying to sell it,
Opie says between two hundred and twenty to three fifty euros.
Coming number three says, glad you forced her to open
her bag at the airport with security around. Only thing
I would have done is lost her passport and snuck
it into her bag and let her run around trying
to find it. Opie says, Haha, my father told me

(57:08):
that I should have ft it in the bin, and
that's all that we have in that story.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Well, she wrote, Yeah, honestly.

Speaker 8 (57:15):
That commentary's idea of it is kind of funny because
I was thinking, like, oh, I lost your passport. But then'
like ah, but like she does really need that, yeah,
but then putting it in her bag is kind of
that's a.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Great just causes her worry, but then she still has exactly.

Speaker 8 (57:28):
You have it, and you have to rummage through your
whole bag haha, and around my bag, yeah that's in
your bag, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Then find it and then and then yeah, you have
to reveal that you've stolen the bag.

Speaker 8 (57:38):
She could have done it if she was opening her
bag to get her own little purse, and then she
could have easily just stuck it in whatever. I don't
think she did that, But anyway, that's the end of
that story. We've got another one coming right up.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to the stories.
Put a quick three minute ad break from her sponsors
that keep the show going.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
My friend cut me off after my pregnancy reveal. Well,
now she wants me back. Too little, too late, my friend,
So to start off, me and this woman met in
middle school when I transferred to the school she went to,
and we have been really good friends up until the
most recent years. We are both thirty nine female. She
and I both were kind of outsiders and did not

(58:18):
fit in too well with other groups, so we stuck
together like lou By the way, this comes from scibbscib me,
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the r slash Okay story time severed it. I'm
Sophia and I'm Angie, and Op says her parents passed
when she was young and she had no siblings, so
I admit now she may have felt closer to me

(58:38):
than I did to her, since I had a lot
of friends back in my old school that I still
talked to over year back I became pregnant with my
and my husband's firstborn daughter. She is truly everything we
could have asked for, quite literally perfect. We've been married
since we were twenty five and had no plans to
have children initially, but with my forties coming up and

(58:59):
I had a talk and decided that maybe one would
not hurt. We absolutely love her and are also so
happy to be one and done. We are at a
great point in our careers and have honestly spoiled this baby.
My friend, let's call her Anna, has been married with
her husband since she was twenty eight, and they've been
trying for a baby since she turned thirty. They started

(59:21):
IVF when she was thirty two, as they are also
both well off, and fertility experts explained she would have
a hard time getting pregnant. She knew I was not
really planning on a child, and we never really spoke
about her Tec journey because that is something deeply personal,
and I never did any prying. She seemed happy to
never bring it up, and when she did talk about it,
she would have a sad look, so I figured it

(59:43):
was best that way. By the point we decided to
try for a baby, I tried to keep it just
to me and my husband. I did not tell her,
just me and my husband knew. I did not even
tell my own mom or sister, who I would argue
I'm closer with. At the time, I felt she did
not need heads up because we just didn't want to
tell anybody. Honestly, I wasn't really even thinking about her

(01:00:05):
TTC journey, as she rarely talks about it. I did
not think I owed it to her to tell her
just because she is TTC. We really wanted to just
keep it between us. Soon after, about two months later,
I got pregnant. When the baby reached twenty weeks, this
is when we announced. Everyone a little late into it
and the suspense was unliving us, but we decided it

(01:00:28):
was best since my mother has a bad history because
of the situation, I decided to meet up with her
before our reveals, since I planned to invite her and
didn't want her to be blindsided. Since we were actually
finally telling people, I thought it was right. As I
told her, her face kind of fell and I asked,
what was wrong. She asked a few questions, like when

(01:00:48):
did I start, how long did it take? I answered,
but then asked how she felt. She got really angry
and upset and said I was gross for telling her
something this late, and that I was pregnant every time
we hung out, which made her deeply uncomfortable. She explained
her clock is running out and said it was wrong
of me to rub my pregnancy in her face. She
said she wished I told her before we got pregnant

(01:01:10):
that we were trying, so she would know to stay
away for her own peace.

Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
She called me a really big witch and not a
true friend. I told her she's been peaceful because she
did not get queasy seeing me since she didn't know.
I said it was weird that instead of being happy
for me, she was doing this instead. We went back
and forth, with her continuing to call me rude names.
I admit I got really mad at being called those things,
and the hormones didn't help either. I told her she

(01:01:36):
didn't have to worry about her clock running out because
her crap wasn't even ticking. As soon as the words
left my mouth, I felt regret.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
Ouch, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
She stared at me blankly, so I decided to apologize
and left without waiting for a reply. I got home
and decided to text her, but found out she had
actually blocked me everywhere. The anger was still fresh, so
I didn't try to reach out again. I figured it
would be fine because I at my village. I did
not need her or her negativity impacting and stressing me out.

(01:02:09):
I didn't want to walk on eggshells. I did miss
her a lot, but what she said kept ringing in
my ears. Strangely, I got a text from an unknown
number a few days ago. It was Anna. She was
texting me, asking to meet up and that she had
something she wanted to talk about. I told her I
didn't want to meet up and that she could say
it right. Then she told me she was pregnant and

(01:02:29):
was hoping we could possibly rekindle. She explained that when
she finally was able to get pregnant, she thought about
me immediately and felt guilt for what went down. She
said she was around twenty five weeks and had pondered
a long time if she should reach out to me.
She admitted she did not really understand things at the
time and had building resentment towards pregnant people from her journey.

(01:02:53):
She said the fact that I didn't want any kids
but got to have one before her when she wanted
multiple really stung. That day, she said she wanted our
kids to grow up together and be best friends.

Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
I texted her back.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
And said it was weird of her to fantasize about
my baby being friends with hers when we're not friends.
I reminded her that for literally the entirety of our friendship,
she knew I was child free up until the end
where she decided to crash and burn everything we had.
I told her she should have had decorum that day.
She was allowed to be sad at my pregnancy, but

(01:03:27):
blowing up at me was insane.

Speaker 8 (01:03:29):
I said.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
The same way she would have appreciated being told early,
I would have appreciated some kindness and maybe a congrats,
but I did not get that. I said it was
weird of her to text me now hoping for me
to be happy for her. Oh, and the worst part
is I was happy for her. I told her something
in the back of my mind still missed her, and
I was ready to let it go after this, and

(01:03:49):
I wished her a safe pregnancy. Something she could not
muster up for me. After this, she sent me a
long text saying I was the only real friend she
had and that she would have nobody else else to
celebrate with other than her husband's family and her coworkers.
I told her we were not friends anymore and blocked her.
Oh this is dang tragic, like childhood friend. Yeah, and obviously,

(01:04:14):
like you cut her off for reason reasonable, you know things, right,
But like, yeah, this kind of sucks.

Speaker 8 (01:04:23):
That does kind of suck because I feel like, I
don't know, I feel like it would be good to
voice your opinion like this, because like I've been in
a situation where like I stopped being friends with someone
and then they apologized afterwards, and then like I still
had a lot of things to say to them. Yeah,
but I kind of was just like, oh, well that

(01:04:44):
was a nice apology, so like maybe we can be
friends again. But then it didn't feel right, you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:04:49):
So I like that she was able to say these things.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
She had this kind of closure, She had this moment
where she was offered the friendship, and she was like,
you know what, know, I appreciate it, but happy for
you can go back. Since then my husband actually received
a text from her husband asking if he could convince
me to reconcile because Anna was in shambles and he
didn't want her to have so much stress during her

(01:05:15):
very hard to achieve pregnancy. My husband is saying I
should just make friends for her sake at least, and
that maybe it will be like it used to be.

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
Any final thoughts, I think I would hear her out
and I would try to I would at least be
open to forgiving her. I feel like it wouldn't be
wouldn't be the same, wouldn't be the same. Yeah, but
I wouldn't block her, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yeah, I feel like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
I don't know. It feels like you both were going
through something. Yeah, and she kind of lashed out in
a really awful way, and you were very right in
reacting the way you did after. Right, But it seems
like you know, she's kind of had that realization.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
Yeah, but you know you don't know it to her, right,
she did hurt you, Right, It's very possible for it
to be the kind of thing where, like later down
the line, if you wish that you were friends to her,
or you were mad.

Speaker 8 (01:06:05):
That you're not friends anymore, then you could.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
You can't evaluate.

Speaker 8 (01:06:09):
Yeah, you can't really like be super mad at her
for like throwing it all away when it's like, Okay,
well she messed up. Yeah, nan, but you could still
have a friendship and you like you could still do
something about that. You know, it's not away forever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I told him it has been a year since she
reached out to me last, and if she's willing to
toss decades of friendship away for a year consistently without
reaching out until she got pregnant, then maybe she did
not deserve me anyway. He still thinks I'm being cold
and said it is hard to believe we were even
friends with how my attitude about her is am I
the ale? Should I unblock and maybe work it out

(01:06:49):
and edit? Despite the comments saying not the ale, I
did get a long DM from someone to keep a
long story short. I believe I could be an ahole
because I said something very nasty her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Yes, and the argument we had could have been avoided
if I had just told her what was going on.
The person explained people that our ttcs sometimes need to
mute others for their own well being. I may have
been selfish by not telling her and by saying that,
as well as not inquiring more about her struggles, this
has opened my eyes a bit more, but I am
still very much on the fence about letting her back

(01:07:20):
into my life, not even because of my husband, but
because I do miss her. Common one kind of weird
Your husband cares more about someone who hurt you than
his own wife. I disagree with that. I think that
he cares a lot about his wife, which is why
he's bringing that up. Yeah, Opie says, my husband is
very good friends with her husband. That is why he
also thinks we're both overreacting and that her grief and

(01:07:41):
my hormones made us say mean things to each other.
We really did used to be very good friends, and
he finds it out of character, which it is. I'm
not going to defend her, but this is the first
time she's ever done something like that. He also sees
that I do actually miss her, and I have pretty petty,
spiteful side to me that was apparent, and he thinks
that is why I don't want to reconcile. She also

(01:08:03):
doesn't really have anyone else, and it sucks because while
she may have money to buy her baby anything, nothing
beats having a strong village to help you, and she
won't have that with another woman her age unless she
makes up with me. But I'm reluctant. A reply says
you miss the friend she used to be. Common too
says I understand where you're coming from. Your post initially
made it seem like you were not supportive or avoided

(01:08:24):
discussing her struggles, But I see you do understand the situation.
While her behavior was extremely hurtful and inexcusable, fertility treatments
are invasive and mentally draining the hormones. Repeated failures and
watching others get pregnant easily can lead to depression and
bitterness that cloud's judgment. This does not excuse treating people poorly,

(01:08:46):
but people sometimes fall into holes they cannot climb out
of a loone and it sounds like she genuinely regretted
her reaction. Given your long friendship, ask yourself, is your
life better without her? Do you miss the friendship? What
you want your kids to be close someday? The real
question is what you want to do moving forward. Some
people find hate easy and forgiveness hard. I am the opposite.

(01:09:10):
Forgiveness comes easier to me than holding grudges, which I
find draining. What matters is what feels right for you
and this specific situation. That was a good comment. Yeah,
I agree with her comment. OPI says, I do not
know what I want. If she had just been upset
or asked for space, that would be different. But she
called me a witch, a bad friend, and other words

(01:09:30):
that get flagged. She knows name calling is something I
find really low and in response and none of that
is excusable. But in response, you did bring up one
of her deepest insecurities, right, so you know, like you
guys both said some things that I'm sure you did
not mean.

Speaker 8 (01:09:47):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
She also went on about her biological clock, and I
wrongly assume that did not apply to her since she
was doing fertility treatments. After my own difficult pregnancy, I
realized being twenty five would have made things. It's not
just about egg counts. Living without her this year has
been hard. I have had lows where I wish she
was around, not just to talk, but to laugh until

(01:10:09):
I cried, the kind of laughter that might have sent
me into labor if we were still close. I wanted
her planning my baby shower and being my baby's auntie.
Maybe being pregnant made it feel worse than it was.
It felt like she unlive my dog or something. I
still feel that sting, but wonder if what she said
was actually that wrong or if I was just hormonal.

(01:10:30):
I also do not know if she genuinely wants to
reconnect or if she is being hormonal too. I do
not want to be hurt like that again. That day,
she felt like a different person I did not know anymore.
I'm not sure I want to get to know her again.
I think you do, right, Yeah, I feel like she
does too. I think you said all of that, and
underneath all of it was I miss her.

Speaker 8 (01:10:53):
Yeah, because here out you know, like again it's it's
not going to jump into what it was before. Oh
it shouldn't, right, And you were mad at her for
saying those things. I mean, like that's what happened with
my friend. I was well, I was kind of mad
like about a few things. But then there was like
name calling at the end of it. That was like
the final straw, and was like, okay, no, but but

(01:11:13):
you know, like listen to what they have to say
and see what she'll do if like if she'll put
any actions for it that will make things up, like make.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Up for it she see if she follows through.

Speaker 8 (01:11:25):
Yeah exactly, But don't give up on a friendship that
you mess Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Yeah, but that's the end of that story.

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