My sister-in-law STOLE our baby’s name… now she regrets it! | Reddit Stories - ok storytime

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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word from our sponsors. My sister in law stole our
baby's name, but now she regrets it. Maybe you shouldn't
have been named thieving. Hey, y'all, longtime lurker and all that.
This is a throwaway account to cut to the chase.
My wife and I spent four years trying to get
pregnant before the wrong side of thirty five. We are

(00:29):
currently thirty three respectfully now and are blessed with a
wonderful infant son. By the way, this comes from you Dad,
who stood his ground on the Roka Storytime subreddit. So,
my wife has a younger half sister that she has
been low contact with for some time. The woman is
entitled and toxic and also her mother's boldened child. We've
refused to let her or my mother in law in

(00:51):
the house since you both blatantly tried to make off
with my wife's jewelry box a couple of years. So
not only are they name thieves, they are just they
are literally just these.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
The box contained a whole lot of valuable jewelry inherited
from my wife's grandmother. That jewelry is now in a
safety deposit box, as per my suggestion. My wife and
I nearly given up trying to conceive when it suddenly happened,
and we were astatic. After we found out we were
having a boy, we started looking into names. I ended
up suggesting the name of my Scottish grandfather.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Don't know what that was.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, I'll let that one fly. Yeah, Okay, we're just
gonna we're gonna fly away. And my wife loved it,
so that's the name we settled on, but we made
the mistake of posting about it on social media. Well,
no surprise to the stereotype in this mess. My sister
in law was pregnant too, and months further along than
my wife and also having a boy. He decided to

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claim my grandfather's name for her own sign, and not
just the first name, but the middle name too. We
called her pissed over what she was doing, and she
smugly told us there's nothing we can do about it.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Which she sort of was right.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Nothing we could do about it legally, as it's still
not a crime to steal planned baby names. We realized
that drama was exactly what my sister in law wanted.
She thought by taking the name for herself, wo'd not
be able to use it. I laughed and told her
that what she did was dirty and underhanded. We would
keep our chosen name and she could just deal with
it whether she decides to go through with copying us

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or not. Well, my sister in law's baby daddy called
me and said I was an unreasonable wiener for still
wanting to use the name after sister in law claimed it.
I said he claimed nothing, and since we couldn't own
the name, then neither could they. Before we ended the call,
he threatened me by saying I'd be sorry if we
didn't change the name. Then he hung up before I
could respond. Months later, sister in law has a healthy

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baby boy and names him this is my grandfather's name.
We did not show up for the birth, both because
of the pandemic and because we simply didn't care to
be there. Sistern in law called us wanting congratulations, but
we told her we simply didn't care, and that is
she was still insisting we changed our baby's name. Then
she be in for some big disappointment because we were
not sister in law dumbmanded. I put my wife on

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the phone, but it was already on speaker, and my
wife spoke up and said, no, I agree, we weren't
changing the name. Sistern law hung up on us, but
soon started sending emails with text walls of names, even
suggest saying similar ones. I responded back that the name
was from my grandfather and that's why we were not
changing it.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
She shut up and we.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Didn't hear from her again until after our own son
was born two months later.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
We are blessed with our son. He came out perfect
and we named him just as we intended.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, no surprise, my sister in law called us a
few days after the birth, the scream in our ears
that we copied her son's name. I pointed out she
was a real copycat. She had no familial ties to
the name, and we did, and anyone who looks at
our family trees could see that. Then my wife spoke
and said, after the attempted theft of her grandmother's jewelry,
she no longer considered.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Sister elaw her sister and.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Would have nothing to do with her nephew either. For months,
we were bombarded with messages and emails my wife's side
of the family, half four on our side after finding
out the whole story. And it's always like family members
like never want to like check in and be like
I heard this as this trially just jumped to like
name calling.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm not gonna like check if my information is right.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Oll, clearly these people are just self centered ales the
other half or not. And sister in law's baby daddy,
true to his ward, showed up at my door to
make me sorry. Now this is getting scared, all right,
Let's all right, let's get the police involved here at this. Yeah, Jesus,
I'm not sure what his plan was, but I pretty
much towered over him.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I Miss Six's one and well built.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
From regular exercise and three trips to the gym a week. He,
on the other side, was very skinny and about five six,
with a baby face that was badly hidden by a
slim beard. I told him my house has cameras and
to get off my property and never come back. He
just yelled a few obscenities at me, like ungrateful wiener,
and drove off in his beat up old car. Sister
in law and mother in law called us from a

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different number to yell at me from making sister in
law's baby daddy feel emasculated. I didn't even threaten the match.
She just told him to leave and not come back,
and if he didn't want to feel emasculated, then he
shouldn't have come knocking. Then they tried to bring up
the issue of the baby's name and demanded we changed
our son's name as he's so young.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
They said there's.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Still plenty of time to do it. We held our
ground and told them that they were bunkers. Still think
we're in the right, that you were in the right.
After they copied our choice of name just to try
and get one over on us, I said, sistern in
law didn't even name her son out of love, but
out of spite. Just try to stick it to my
wife for no good reason. Then my wife called them

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both out on the way she was treated growing up,
how entitled sister in law and mother in law have
always been, and how she was glad to leave them
far behind and she wants nothing from them and they
won't have anything from us. That left sister in law sobbing,
and mother in law called me a royal bee before
hanging up on the phone. That was no contact again
for a little while, while still sister in law called

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us again sometime later to bitterly tell us we'd won.
She and her baby daddy got in a huge, huge
fight and he left apparently very sore that sister in
law didn't let him even give their son a middle
name from his family, and he said he was sick
of the bs and wanted his son named after him
and not some guy he wasn't even related to.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So this is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So sister in law's husband, who is the one like
physically threatening to like back up his sister naming the
kid in spite, was actually like, on second.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Thought, this is weird. I don't want to be a
part of this. And also he's be named after me.
What a guy? Look at it? This guy coming up
with solutions. We love to see it.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right, But if you want to be related to someone,
you could be related to us by going to join
us live on YouTube and Facebook every weekday at three
pm PST. Probably why right now, so's have a profile,
but there is a relevant update.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Let's discuss.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I think we've all said our piece here. I
think we know exactly where we sit. It's like and now,
as this shows all, this could have just been fixed
if the dad was just like, oh, hey, what do
I actually think about this?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Oh yeah, can we name our kid after me? Since
I'm his dad? But I love that.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
It wasn't just like I don't want to be a
part of this naming in spite. It was like I
want them to be named after me, right, which is.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like, I don't know. It was good. He saw the light.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
It was like the beam of sunlight like shined down
on his head, and he like, wait, wait a minute,
I can solve all of this right now, and then
he did. I don't think it was a solve. I
think it was just like he was like this is weird,
and also like I want it.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I want it. Yeah, He's like, I don't care about
any of this. I want it to be mine name.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
The sistern law finally caved and they got the boy's
birth certificate reissued with a completely new name okay, which
costs sister in law around five hundred dollars, or so
she claims. Sister in law then demanded shut up, shut up,
shut up. Sister in law then demanded we at least
compensate her for the name change, plus another one hundred
dollars for the emotional damage, as she's now going to

(07:52):
have to get used to calling her son by a
different name. I I be.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Actually they need to be studied. Put these people in
a lab.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And because you can't be, they gotta be from another
planet if they're thinking that that's a normal thing.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I go into every stream. I have a long drive.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I go into every stream and I go, you know what, today,
I'm really gonna empathize with people I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm gonna try my best to do that for the
audience that we.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Could all together try to make the effort to understand people.
It's hard to understand, and that every stream I read
the story and there's no explanation.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I take it back. I can't. I can't. I can't
make sense of this. I take it back. I can't
do it. I can't do it. Not to do it tomorrow,
and then I go home. I'm like, you know what,
I might be better next time.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I think, I mean, I think all that it needs
to be said is clearly like the childhood sibling dynamic
plays a heavy role here.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I would assume one hundred percent. Yeah, there's way.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yes, we laughed, which is an appropriate response, and said
this would have never happened if she hadn't stolen our
baby name to begin with, and we didn't owe her anything.
Since then, we've been no contact with sister in law
and mother in law, but my father in law, who's
a very nice man and divorced from mother in law
for obvious reasons, would come by often and love his grandson.
From what he and other relatives told us, the situation

(09:13):
between sister in law and her baby daddy, it's pretty tumultuous.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
But we don't care. Not our monkeys, not our circuit.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
No way, we had double Not our monkeys, not our circus.
That's crazy, do we We just had that again the
last story, but said that, Yeah, I don't remember them
saying yeah they did.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I read it.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Remember, Wow, that's crazy. We already know, we already know
exactly where we're at here. Okay, cool, done with the story.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yes, that is that.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
My in laws spread misinformation about my son, so we
went no contact with them. Just censor them, get censored.
You're canceled, Get censored. You goofball and say exactly like that.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, for starters.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I am an extremely big supporter of mental health, especially
since I suffer a lot with issues myself. I and
my partners see absolutely no issue with our children being
on the spectrum. Our issue is with how this was
addressed by his family. By the way, this comes from
user joint which and if you want to submit your stories,
do so on the r slash okay storytime subreddit. To

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the story, we went to a big Thanksgiving dinner at
my mother in law's house with almost every member of
his family in attendance. During the after dinner chatting, the
subject of Ontario schooling came up. Now, normally I don't
speak much during these big family events due to being
shy and generally disliked by most of the women in
his family.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
More context on that later.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
But as I have a degree in youth care and
a strong opinion on the matter, I figured this conversation
would be a good chance to connect with some of
his family, like he's been asking and wanting me to do.
Almost immediately when I spoke up, they changed the topic
slightly to being about how wonderful it is that the
system has so much help for troubled children. His aunt

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in law gave me some side eye while this this
and mentioned that I should find it useful. I tried
to brush it off and said it would definitely be
if my children ever needed that help. She made a
nasty comment on how quote I need to consider my
children's needs more. All this in front of my two kids.
I left the room and took the kids outside for
some fresh air and better company.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Hello birds.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
My daughter, female eleven from another partner, but who my
current partner adopted unofficially ever since we started dating eight
years ago, actually does have some issues which we are
addressing with doctors in the school. However, this jab in
particular was directed at our son, male two, who is
non speaking. He makes gestures, makes eye contact, he babbles NonStop,

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and has a great understanding of instruction, but he does
not yet speak in sentences. We have been to see
our family doctor, a child development specialist, and are also
in talk therapy with him. All of the possible tests
at this age have been done and confirmed that he
has no medical issues. He just really doesn't feel like
talking yet. After our breath of fresh air, we returned
to the house. My guess is that the conversation had

(12:03):
shifted to being about us, because as I stepped back
into the dragon's den, Aunt in law started speaking louder,
as if I could somehow not hear her from a
foot away. She said, verbatim, quote, it's just so sad
that children don't get the help they need, all because
the parents are two in denial, right, Amy, which is
not my real name.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
But she was speaking to me and looking directly at me.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
At no point did I lose my cool, I replied back, quote,
we aren't in denial, Karen. Yes, I named her this
on purpose. The doctors have told us that he just
needs time, and this opened the floodgates, which is crazy
that the doctors. This is definitely the kind of person
who's like, what does a doctor know?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I know best? Aunt? What doctors?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Me? Multiple, sister in law, Well, not a specialist, obviously, me. Yes,
we've seen a specialist. Actually, we have three doctors who
have confirmed that he's not on the spectrum. Aunt, Well,
then you need another opinion, sister in law, and actual
specialists at that and in law can leo my partner
again not a real name, confirm this me?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yes, he's actually the one taking him to talk therapy.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Lots of hmm at this I decided to tell Leo
that I wanted to leave right away, after politely disengaging
from the conversation. For context, he was in the bathroom
the whole time this was happening. Dinner did not agree
with him. I cried the whole way home. My issue
was not that they had concerns, which they later insisted
that was all it was. My issue was that I
clearly stated that we were caring for him, and they

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made it out as if I, yes, me specifically, somehow
was not in front of everyone, including my kids.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yes, it gets worse.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
We found out that they had been spreading this misinformations
to other corners of the family tree, talking about how
in denial we were about our son's needs and how
we were setting him up for failure. We received multiple
comments from others who were not in attendance about why
we were treating our son this way. Leo contact both
as Anton sister to ask that they apologize for their behavior,

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to which they insisted they didn't need to apologize for
simply having voiced their concerns. Our point was that if
they had concerns, they could have brought them to us
directly and privately instead of making it into a big
shaming scene at a family event.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, you can't fool us.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
You did this to bash us, You did this to
dunk on us in front of the family.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It did not seem like there was any care involved
at all. Like Leo, like the direct relative of these people, which.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Is your partner, your husband's slash boy whatever, Leo needs
to be calling them out right and like it's like
he's babe Ruth falling his shot, says, you can't do this.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
We are taking care of our kids. You need to
shut your mouths worry about your own business.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
They also said that our efforts weren't good enough, that
was crossing a line and was being disrespectful to us
as parents, them then spreading this to others like wildfire,
trying to paint us as the bad guys.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
They both insisted we were crazy, that's the.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Actual claim, and in denial for wanting apologies from them. Also,
they were somehow both under the delusion that I was
forcing Leo to ask them for apologies, which was not
the case, and that I specifically was the one creating
drama and tearing the family apart. His sister saying well,
if it's not autism, then there's something else wrong with
him was our final straw. I had to be the

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one comforting Leo, who was beyond pissed at this point
and just wanted to go no contact, and convincing him
that an apology would be adequate enough for me. An
apology would mean that they are taking accountability for the
things that they've said and done.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
At the bare.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Minimum, at most, it could mean they're genuinely sorry for
those things. He gave them an ultimatum they apologize and
promised not to treat me harshly in the future, and
then we can start fresh, or he plans to never
have contact with them again, except for in case of
family emergencies. Slightly more context aunt and sister in law
have always been outrageously rooted and insulting to me at

(15:52):
every family gathering since I started dating Leo, from downright
ignoring me small comments about my looks, too, saying I'm
the the only thing wrong with my daughter, and outright
claiming that I tried to trap him in a relationship
by lying about my.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Very real fertility issues.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
This is just the point at which we've both had
enough of their thinly veiled abusive behavior. I'm not sure
if I've left anything out or not, but I'll try
to answer any forthcoming questions.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
So am I the ahole? You know what? I think
you'd almost.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Be the ahole for continuing to have these people in
your life, Like I think you need to completely for
yourself and for your kids, Like you don't want these
people around them. They're othering your children. They're verbally abusive
to you. It's like, just cut them off. You're not
being an a whole, You're being too nice. You need
to be more of an a whole.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I'm not trying to be.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Rude, but when people share stories around like people that
are so like objectively being.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Awful, and then they're like, but am I the ahole?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
That we do have an edit and probably a little
update here. Let's let's get into it. You are all
so amazing and your responses are heartwarming. I have a
bit more context to add. This toxic behavior from both
of them is the reason I begged Leo not to
attend these family gatherings up until this particular event. He
was insistent I just try to be nice and ignore it.
He is now finally starting to see this behavior for

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what it is and is willing to go no contact.
The difficult part about going no contact resides with his mother,
the mother in law, who has also treated me in
the same way, but was not part of the above conflict.
In fact, she sided with them at first, saying that
we were exaggerating things and making her choose sides, even
to the point where he said he would go no
contact with them, and she said, well, I.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Guess you don't want to ever see me either.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Then. However, things have smoothed over with her to some extent,
as she is very important to Leo, but her hurtful
comments towards me are still an issue. By the way,
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
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Preferred podcast platform, whatever it is Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio,
anywhere where you can get podcasts, search Okay Storytime and boom,
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It is really true, It's true, and there's we're adding
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Speaker 1 (18:05):
We're adding episodes. Now you know, Now I know there
is some more story here, I think clearly. Well.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
What confused me was I thought, OHP was trying to
talk Leo back from going no contact, but then seemed
in the edit context update like she was glad he
was moving towards no contact. So I'm kind of confused
about that. But I'm fully on no contact here. I
would I would not be upset if they went no
context for mostly just for the children, like for the
stuff they said about the kids, but yeah, saying I

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mean the kids.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
They need to show extreme remorse for the things that
they've said and done. But let's finish this story lastly.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I showed all of this to Leo, and he agrees
that he should have recognized their behavior or at least
believed me when I told him about it a lot sooner.
And it's very apologetic for forcing me to go to
family events for this long. We aren't married yet, but
he plans to elope with me to avoid the unnecessary
family time. What a w right there? It's it is

(19:04):
respecting your desires, right. It's hard to see the bs
of family until some people point it out sometimes it
truly is, and even when they point it out, like
there can be some resistance to it where it's it's
it's your family, it's like you've had to like warpgrammed.
It's so often that someone has to warp their way
of viewing reality because reality is too uncomfortable to be with.

(19:26):
And then someone else who hasn't done those mental gymnastics
in order to be okay with the situation that's not
okay is like that's not okay, and you're.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Like, no, no, I have a structure built around this. Yeah, yeah,
it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Thank you all again for the amazing amount of support,
and yes, for our sake and the kids, we are
officially going no contact with the people, and mother in
law is on low contact until she can treat me
as the woman that matters most to him. Those Rilio's
words sweet W husband, w W family, I mean not
the ones that are no contact your family, your husband,

(19:58):
your son, your daughter, you double at the end of
that story, my sister in law hates my son just
because her brother.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Is the father sister in law brother son. I think
we're gonna need the white board. My brain cannot confirm that.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, So I wrote this post earlier, but a lot
of people insinuated that my husband did things to my
sister in law. So time to add ages. I thirty
old female, am married to my husband, a thirty old male.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
We have a ten month old son.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
My husband was no contact with his family from the
ages of twenty one to twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Because they were nasty to him.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
By the way, this comes from you dash technical Potato
four four three on the r okay storytime subreddit. So
he's autistic and he boyed him for it. So they
also weren't a fan of me. I met my husband
when he was sixteen years old. At the time, I
was in a relationship with someone else. My husband and
I were just friends. The person I was with turned
abusive very fast, and I had trouble getting out. Husband
helps me. We've been dating since we were eighteen years old.

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Family was very again him helping me get out of
the relationship because of reasons they still haven't told us.
His sister, the one in question, was two years old
at this time. He has not lived at home since
his sister was four. Sister in law is fifteen years
old right now. From what I've heard from sister in law,
mother in law, father in law, and all other relatives.

(21:19):
My husband and sister in law were very close. He
was excited to have her become an addition to the family.
He played with her and really went into the big
brother role for her. He still tries to, but he's
a very bad communicator. He's in therapy working on it.
Sister in law was not a fan of.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Me being pregnant.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
She avoided me, wouldn't look at ultrasound pictures, and wouldn't
even look at me when I was pregnant. When my
son was born, she avoided him and would run and
cry when we asked her to hold him. We had
no idea why. We had theories she's scared to hurt him.
Maybe she doesn't like me because for a long time
his family didn't.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Maybe because the baby is mixed race, or jealousy. Nope.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
She said at a family dinner to everyone that it's
because of who my sons fought is her brother. She
doesn't like my son because her brother is the father.
She said if the baby was someone else's child, she
would be okay with him. Mother in law started laughing
because she thought it was hilarious. My husband's older sister
was confused. Husband was pissed, but stay quiet. I was shot.

(22:17):
Father in law said, that's still your nephew. It shouldn't matter.
I asked husband's aunt and grandmother what they thought, and
they think it's because mother in law encourages sister in
law to be immature and manipulative. If sister in law cries,
mother in law caves and does whatever she wants, husband
is just hurt and wants to keep the baby away
from her. So those saying that my husband did something

(22:37):
to her, I one hundred percent doubt it. My husband
as a teenager was very introverted and wanted to be alone.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
He didn't want to be.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Around his family and would interact with his sister when
he was forced to. But he still loves her and
had nothing against her. He just didn't want to be
around his parents. I'm not asking for advice, I'm just venting.
I'll be talking with husband's grandma Saturday to see what
we should do. Well, this isn't a good update, kinda.
I talked to multiple family members on my husband's side
and they all agree that what sister in law said

(23:04):
and mother in law's reaction was out of line and
not okay. Husband aunt said that sister in law is spoiled, entitled,
and mother in law has raised a very immature teenager.
I don't know if this is relevant, but I found
it interesting. Sister in law has a boyfriend and he
worships the ground she walks on. She, on the other hand,
doesn't even want to be around him. She just orders
him around like a servant. This is what I was told.

(23:25):
All this came to a head when we went to
another dinner with them. We planned to talk it out,
but so many things happened that we decided to slowly
go low contact. I had mother in law watch my
son for two minutes while I went to the bathroom,
and that time my son almost choked on food. I
explicitly said not to give him. Sister in law called
him a stupid baby. Husband's oldest sister tried giving my
son some booze.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, I think I know why, though, Let's keep going.
What's strong? Oh think it's all for teething. It's probably
for teething. Okay, Yeah, Because I hear that, I'm like,
what is this a thing? It is a thing.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's like it's like it's like back when like like
the freaking wild West, Like it's not a thing anymore,
but it was at at one point us.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
All this happened in the span of twenty minutes, by
the way, which is crazy to do that. And it's
not your kid.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, someone's not making that call when you're literally not
even the apparent is you know? My husband left with
his dad to the store, so I couldn't just leave,
but we left when he came back after all that happened.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Husband is furious.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I haven't mentioned it to husband's family yet, but we
decided it would be best if we spent more time
with the extended family and not waste time with bone.
If you're wondering why my family is in all of this,
I live very far away from them. Sister in law
is now sixteen years old. Her birthday was a few
days ago. We did not attend her party.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Okay, update number two, Yes, second update, let's hit it.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
So I thought I was going to update again, but
oh lord Christmas. Plus, this is more of a mini
update and more inside in who my sister and mother
in law are. My grandfather and cousin came to visit me.
My in laws extended a visit to my family members
to see them for Christmas dinner.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Christmas Cui Christmas.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
My mother in law and sister in law did not
greet to speak or acknowledge my grandpa and cousin. My
grandpa tried talking to mother in law, just chit chat,
and she clearly wasn't paying attention. At one point, my
grandpa said, well, OPI and husband are such wonderful parents.
Mother in law didn't even even respond. She just looked
at my grandpa. Sister in law cried the whole time.

(25:26):
It was almost fast enough. I was like, sister in law,
mother in law have chosen violence.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Ice cold, Ice called the violence.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
She just looked at my grandpa and locked herself in
her room when we showed up. Husband and I have
come to decision on the matter. We will be going
very low contact with mother in law and sister in law.
Father in law and my son are very close, so
I will be around them because I can't take that
away from my son. However, it will be made aware
that we will be taking a step back, so they're

(25:55):
going low contact and they're going to name it to
them very.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Good, very good.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I'm still on the like why it seems like they
were doing all this detective war coat and.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Then this happened, and then they're just annoying and bad.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
It seems like, sure they don't seem to be the
most emotionally mature people, but it seems like if someone
is crying, won't even look at your pregnant wife, and
then when the baby is born, is like, I can't
even look at it. I'm going to cry and run away.
It seems like something something is he needs to be sighted,
something's up, something needs to be spoken.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
But I think I.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Said this earlier once I said this earlier, but I'm
still just confused on why they can't just ask the
sister in law. I think the aunt briefly mentioned that
the mom the mother in law, which would be her sister, right,
she has like an inside scrape though Ope's aunt or
the ope's aunt in law right, Okay, the mother in
law's sister said that she was raising the little grand

(26:48):
one child, sure, a little nightmare lady. That it's sort
of like the apple then far too fall from the
tree there, So mother in law is imprinting all of
her negative toxic traits under her daughter. And all that
has been happening since the brother op's husband has been
out of the picture, so I think it's just gotten
to a point where it's like, there is no solving
this situation because the problem is our presence. The problem

(27:11):
is that we are here with our baby and we're
taking attention away from I think her dynamic with her
boyfriend also speaks volumes again by making assumptions here and
we are with the information we've been given.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, I'm just saying all that could be true. But
I just the point I'm trying to make is why
can't we just ask?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
It is fair we should ask. I bet you they
would not tell you though. I bet nothing's wrong.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Go away.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
That's the fifteen year old response. Mother in law is
just gonna cry and be.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Like, oh did you thinking of you? Because she's a manipulator.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I think if there's not physiological or psychological danger, this
is a golden rule of Alex.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I haven't made one. I'm making it right now. Oh,
we got the golden rule.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
If there is not physiological or psychological danger, before you
make decisions to go no contact or low contact in
a lot of situations, should probably have a conversation before
you make that decision with big facts can't disagree with that.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That's that's my golden rule. Can't I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
There's always nuance, but speak, that's my golden rule.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Speak to each other. That is the end of that story.
John here og host. We're gonna get back to these stories,
but a quick free minute break from house from our sponsors.
I'm excluding my adopted nephew from our girls trip, but
my sister keeps insisting.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
It's a girl's trip, it's for the girls. We're not invited.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
We can't go go trip for the girls? What tip
for the boys? Sometimes that just be the way it do.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Throwaway I forty two female, have two nieces, Flow fourteen
female and Ivy eleven female, as well as a nephew,
Ryan ten male through my brother Tom forty six male,
and sister in law Kate forty five female. Flow and
Ivy are biologically theirs and they adopted Ryan two years
ago after fostering him for three years. Live locally to them.

(29:01):
We are super close usually and have my own daughter,
Ava twelve female, who my nieces are close to. By
the way, this comes from user and in Agony and
you could submit your stories on the r slash okay,
storytime subreddem so. Before foster care, Ryan's life was awful
and he has some behavioral and developmental issues. He struggles

(29:22):
to sit through long things such as shows quietly, whether
it be in the theater or the girls plays and recitals,
so the girls rarely have both parents supporting them. His
behavior is sometimes pretty unpredictable, and he sometimes has pretty
loud and physical meltdowns, so they have to be careful
where they take him, as such, whenever me or how
you take Ava to the theater or other activities which

(29:44):
Ryan wouldn't like. We bring the girls along too. Sometimes
Tom and Kate pay for them. Sometimes we do. We
have never brought Ryan out without his parents and sisters
because he has really different interests to the girls. I
don't feel confident handling his behavior and flow. In Ivy
have expressed that they really value the Ryan free time.

(30:04):
I've made extra effort to be there since then. Ryan
is a great kid, but he needs a lot of attention,
and my nieces need people who are one hundred percent
in their corner. Low Key, feeling kind of bad for
Ryan right now.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It's a it's a sign of favoritism here, A little
bit but.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Not okay, it's like he's got behavioral issues. So you know,
anyone who says that they don't pick favorites.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Is lying, let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Sorry, but it's all I feel like it's almost impossible
to realistically not have a favorite.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Out of you, like if you have like a bunch
of kids.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm sorry when it all comes to when it comes
to kids or comes to parents. I mean, I know
a lot of people try to do fifty fifty, but
sometimes you're gonna have a favorite, sometimes not every single time.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
But like, I don't think you should like outwardly act
on your favoritism, but like.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
You because yeah, we're definitely well.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Whatever, Ryan's getting dunked on because he's adopted, I don't
like it.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like like a
little bit of like pushing Ryan to the side.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Siblings can do that, but there also needs to be
some love here. I haven't heard anything positive from the
sisters with Ryan anyways.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I am taking the girls to a Christmas theme park
in London on Friday. It's quite an expensive one, uh,
UK readers, If you know, you know, and I have
the joy of footing the bill for all three. On Sunday,
I got a call from Kate asking if Ryan could
come with us on Friday. He'd seen adverts and heard
the girls talking about it and wants to go. She
offered to pay for whatever he did. I told Kate no,

(31:35):
as I didn't know what he was like in crowds.
She said he went two years ago and loved it,
and his sisters were there to help him if he
was struggling. I said that wasn't fair on them. I
booked it as a girl's trip and it's supposed to
be a treat and I don't want it getting cut short.
And I don't feel comfortable parentifying the girls. I know
Tom's taking Ryan to London next week, so I told
Kate to book tickets on that day, but by that

(31:57):
point she wasn't listening. She criticized me for insinuating siblings
caring for each other was parentifying, and accused me of
being ablest as Ryan can't help his conditions and shouldn't
be excluded, as well as being biased against the kid
I'm not related to. It got very fiery and ended
with me saying, read the room, it's a girl's day
and her hanging up.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I don't know if this was planned out with like
months in advance. It seems like a spur of the
moment kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I feel like to call it the girl's day would
also imply that the activities are only going to.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Be enjoyed by the girls. That's what I thought too.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I thought it'd be like a spot day or like
a girl's like camping trip, but you're going to a
theme park, a Christmas theme park.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
And one that it's that Ryan has already enjoyed in
the past.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yes, again, if this was playing, do we have like
a time like a time map here like where this
like it's I.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Don't think we have a time map. But honestly, like
I think that.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Them might be a little rioting calling you out me too,
because it seems like, ope, he did this and then
said we're having a girl's trip, not hey, well, I
think she set up that, like the premise of the
girl's trip was already just like set up in that
the time that the girls spend just with her is

(33:18):
like they value it, so it's sort of like always
a girl's day.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, but that's not fair, but.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Right exactly, And at this point you're just being like
I just like the kids who aren't difficult, you're showing
favorite Anyways, she went to the girls and said either
they ask me for Ryan to come, or they can't go.
Flow texted me begging to not let him come and
asking if they can still join us, while Ivy is
more torn up as she doesn't want her brother to
be left out, but also doesn't want to risk her

(33:43):
day being ruined. My mother, Tom, and sister have contacted
me saying I should bring Ryan as to not show
favorites and to be inclusive. Husband is on my side.
Am I the a hole? And there's an edit to answer, Tom, Kate,
and my husband are all working. The day of the trip,
took paid time off, and Kate and Tom had childcare arranged.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I do spend quality time with Ryan.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
We live a fifteen minute walk away, so we go
to their house Off and me. Ryan and Tom, if
he's around, build a lot of legos as it's a
shared hobby and I get him a new set every
Birthday and Christmas. And it's a running joke as he
spends a lot of time guessing which one. I like
this quality time as it's accessible and his parents are
around I just booked days out around my daughter's interest,
which happened to be the exact opposite of his.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
She's a really artsy, girly.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Girl who likes the theater, shopping museums, movie nights, and
slumber parties, while he's into legos, video games and anything
martial arts.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
And we have an update.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Again, because you're dealing with three girls.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I'm gonna say, no, you're not the a hole, but
it's like you're veering your venturing into potential Ahle territory.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Or guess what, Ryan's gonna hold it accountable against you
because you didn't invite him.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, and that's probably not gonna make any behavior issues
he has better.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
No, I feel like you have to let him know,
or like this has to be a conversation with Ryan
and the girls, like hey, this is a girl's trip.
We can make it up to you and go somewhere
and then make it up to you. I don't know,
because you're just excluding him. And again, he is a child. Uh,
and when a child gets excluded there, it's gonna hurt

(35:18):
a lot.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, and he's probably already being excluded in a lot
of other areas from the sound of it. Just like
the sisters don't really at least one of the sisters
doesn't really care for Ryan, so.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
At least the younger sister was like kind of like,
I don't want to exclude him, but also I don't
want him to ruin our day. But like, you gotta
I don't know, you gotta put him out there so
that he can take you know, actions and change.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Like I don't know, it just seems unfair. Here's the update. Well,
that blew up. Thank you to everyone who commented.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Currently on a break, so I'm gonna quickly update crap
has hit the fan. Basically, I removed the previous update
as I was too sleep deprived to do the title properly.
Your comments made me realize that I am right to
not bring Ryan. It's not safe with just me, and
especially after reading comments from people who have special needs
children slash siblings who have had to pull all children

(36:11):
out of days out as there hasn't.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Been enough adults. I'm not doing that. That was a
funny sentence, but honestly that also I didn't think about
that where it's like a safety issue where he needs
full attention, right, because it's like that's also true. If
she's out with the girls and then Ryan like runs off,
it's game over. Now you're in a position where it's like,
all right, well, what am I I'm gonna have to
carry these two other kids around with me while I

(36:33):
look for because it's her two Oh that's right, the
three girls.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that probably is a little bit too much.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I still think this needs to be having a conversation
with Ryan because once this gets to him, he's going
to be upset. Yeah, but that does make sense. That's
a that's a very good point.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
The girls also deserve to do the things that they want.
I will also make a conscious effort to do stuff
with Ryan. I'm going to suggest to Tom that me
and him take him to Lego Land when it reopens
in the spring. The new players are my husband Ben
forty three male, and Tom's sister Mia forty female, and
my mom seventy female, who we will just calm out.
Because of the character limit, I couldn't elaborate on a

(37:15):
few things. I do spend quality time with Ryan. I
just don't take him on days out. We both love legos,
which Ama doesn't, so it's great to have someone to
bond with over that, and as we live a fifteen
minute walk away, we see each other often. It's usually
at their house and it's easier shepherding one kid rather
than three.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Sometimes he'll pick to hang.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
With the girls, where they will play in activity they
all enjoy, like Mario Kart, but most of the time
he'll pick to hang with me. He's one of those
kids who thrives hanging out with adults rather than other children,
which is why his parents endorse the girl's day as
it meant they get two to one time with him.
He gets on with his sisters as they are both
super camm and kind girls, but most of his meltdowns

(37:51):
arise from confrontation with other kids or his sisters wanting
to do something that he doesn't like. Some examples include
Flow playing music in her room or them picking a
movie he doesn't want. Obviously, when they do a vote,
the girls pick usually wins as there's two of them,
and he gets stressed out a lot by other kids
at school. Kate and Tom encouraged the girls to be
empathetic and let him have his way, but I think
this means the girls sometimes lose out. He's got some

(38:13):
friends at school who he has frequent play dates with,
especially when the girls are out of the house, and
he's friends with me as two sons who are ten
and eight, and sometimes gets invites to go laser tag
with them, but they live slightly farther away and as
it's on weekends, Tom or Kate are always there as
they have to take him. Back to the story, Ben,
my husband walked Ava to school today and Flow and

(38:34):
Ivy go to the same school. In the UK, the
first year secondary school is when the kids are eleven
or twelve, so Ryan is at primary school still joining
the girls. In next September, Flow was waiting by the
gates the girls walk themselves and asked to talk with
him after Ava went in.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
She basically said that she loves her brother, but really.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Values having days out with me, Tom and Ava because
it's calmer. And when they went to Winter Wonderland two
years ago, he was chill for about four hours, but
they ended up leaving earlier than planned because he was
starting to get cranky with all the cues and they
didn't want to risk any meltdowns there. As they started
with the rides that he wanted, they had only done
one or two that the girls wanted and didn't do

(39:13):
the ice skating, which is what she really wanted to do.
She also mentioned when the family went to a restaurant recently,
Ryan through a fit as the food was taking too
long and he was hungry. Tom took him home and
while the girls were trying to chat to Kate, she
was too busy on her phone trying to message Tom
to see if Ryan was okay. I also have noticed
that the girls are at my house a lot lately.
As they're responsible for walking themselves home. They'll just go

(39:35):
to mind to do homework as it's empty otherwise until
I get home at five point thirty. Ivy and Ava
are in the same class, so they do homework together.
Flow will often chat a lot to me and Ben,
often about gossip, what happened at school, YadA, YadA. I
thought nothing of it, but now I wonder if she
even has those chats with her parents. Where Flow and
Ava are both pretty headstrong and confident, Ivy is sensitive,

(39:57):
and I think her mom saying she's excluding her brother,
really go to her. Ben relayed this to me and
I contacted Tom, telling him we needed to meet. He
works long hours, but agreed to swing by my place
after work to hash the issues out.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
While Kate is lovely, she thinks with her heart.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
While I think Tom is more level headed at the moment,
he's on the bring Ryan team, but I think when
I lay out why that is not possible, like the
lack of other adults and the girl's feelings and the
length of time we're planning on staying, I'm hoping he
sees the light. This morning, I also got texts from
my mom and Mia, both on Kate's side. My mom
has had a past of kind of favoring her son

(40:32):
over her daughters, and she was saying that Tom was
valiant adopting Ryan, and it was my duty as the
local family member to make sure that he was accepted
as much as possible. To those who said send her along,
I wish, but also found out she and my dad
booked a last minute flight to get some winter sun
for a few days. Mia was more level headed but
still on their side, saying I needed to keep the

(40:53):
peace as we don't want a scrap just before Christmas.
But when I mentioned she organized things without the girl roles,
she got quiet. I also found out she is also
the designated Ryan babysitter for that day, so I think
she might be trying to pawn him off on me
so she doesn't have to come over. She lives a
forty five minute drive away, and her and her kids
are driving down to hang with Ryan in his house

(41:14):
and in the local area, as Kate works in our
town so is close by in case there's an emergency.
I was thinking about asking my sister if her and
the boys wanted to come, but as her boys are younger,
I would be scared of the girls being overshadowed, and
I'm not sure we can manage six kids between the
two of us at Winter Wonderland. Her youngest is also
not the height requirement for a lot of the rides
that the girls want to do, as he's pretty short

(41:36):
for his age. It also takes away from the girl's day.
They've really talked a lot about it, and I don't
want them feeling awkward about doing something because Ryan doesn't
want to.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Okay, So this entire story had been like back and forth,
back and forth. I'm siding with Opie now, yeah, yeah.
One second I was like, ah, Opie, I don't think
I like where you're coming from. Now, with everything in
all the contexts that we have as right now, I
understand and that makes sense. I think again, this needs

(42:06):
to be talk to you about with Ryan. But I
think the girl's day is naturally fine. But I also
think some therapy with the kids, especially the girls, and
how it seems like they're getting not resentful as the word,
but they're kind of distancing themselves from the family and
from Ryan.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I think some group counseling would do them good.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yes, I think such child counseling or some child therapy
or something like that, or some family counseling to get,
you know, get it all out there and talk about
where we go, especially how we navigate this, because if
it's it's all bottled up it's to get it's gonna
turn out ugly and there should be a lot more resentment,
which we don't want. So I get it, girl, you're
allowed to, especially with kids. I don't like the favoritism,

(42:49):
but you're allowed to. Like, Okay, you get your day, girls,
and then Ryan and the boys will get there go well.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
And it's like, let's be like, honest, he's got behavioral issues,
he's got special needs. It's it's harder to look after
and take care of Ryan.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, especially if there's only especially if she should be op.
That makes sense. If there was another adult that can
go along, great and they can look after Ryan. But
I think in this scenario, a girl's trip is fine.
This is fine. And then you say to Ryan, Hey,
this is just gonna be a girl's trip. I know
that you would want to go. We'll go to Lego

(43:26):
Land and then the girls don't have to go. Make
it your day. And if you want to bite any
of your friends or your cousins or whoever, whatever you want, Ryan,
So that's fair because guess what Lego Land. I mean,
it's a Christmas thing and everyone loves Christmas.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I agree, I fully agree.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
So maybe we can come again next year when we
have all six parents available, so more flexibility. But for now,
I think it's safest going with the girls only. I
am slightly concerned that with the way Kate is behaving,
she might tell me not to come and drop all
three at mine on Friday. But Ben, who works from home,
he'll babysit if he needs to. Ryan really likes him,

(44:03):
and I think he would prefer playing on Ben's PS
five to the theme park.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Anyways, I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
To come to that, and it's cruel to tell the
kid he can't come when he's at my door.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
But I wouldn't know what else to do.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
By the way, if you don't know what else to do,
I've got a suggestion for you. You can go find
full episodes with stories like this on Spotify and Apple
podcasts and whenever wherever you get your podcasts. You can
listen to them to your heart's content. All you need
to do is search up Okay story time, and there
they are. It's very simple, super simple. I think we

(44:37):
just kind of laid out exactly how we feel before
we finish the story.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I think I think would be kind of cleared up
there too, like oh yeah, you can hang out with
the boys PS five. Yeah, fun time. It'll be distracted
and that's fine.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Make make I.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Think what you need to enforce as well as like, Okay,
we're gonna have the girls day, but please please, like
I can chip in if you need anything to have
make sure Ben has a good date, Like Ben can
play at the PS five, order some pizza or what
have you want? My favorite food to make him feel special.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, Like it's like you're you're still having a nice time,
nice day because guess what she does get fomo sucks.
No one likes fomo.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Fear of missing out sucks.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, and it really and it sounds like Ryan doesn't
handle it very well well at all, just because of.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
His past trauma and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
And then he's also just a.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, therapist, he needs therapy and counseling. I think I
think as a unit, as the family, that would be
that would do well.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
For help the girls. It would help the relationship better
with Ryan. And again when when the parents were like, oh,
be empathetic, like you can just like do this, do this,
It'll be good for you. Guys like no, I think
you need to talk to everyone so everyone is on
the same, same team and same you know, mindset.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
All right, let's finish this story.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I am pretty nervous about how my brother will react,
especially to Flow talking to Ben, as I really don't
want to fight or her to get in trouble. I'll
mention what she said, but not anything where I can
see it starting a fight. Ben told her to speak
to her parents too, so that might be happening, but
I think it would just be her as Ivy is
very timid and doesn't want to make her parents sad.
I don't want to be cut off from my nieces

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as I love them a lot and know they love
their cousins. So I really want to resolve this, and
the advice would be appreciated, and we have some top
comments Number one, it sounds genuinely like everyone really loves
each other, but just because there's that love, it doesn't
mean that communication will always be easy. It'd be great
if the grown ups had a family meeting without the
kids to make plans for the upcoming year, where there's

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equal all family time and equal individual small units time,
so that kids get their own special attention and also
get time together. Edit to add this current situation is
of course really sticky, but it's only sticky because everyone
loves each other and folks want to have their own
special time. If you can approach the conversation that way,
with understanding and excitement to make different plans, special plans

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with Ryan in the near future with your sister, hopefully
it'll go easier. It's not that anyone wants to leave
anyone out. It's that sometimes it's just great and fun
to have smaller units. Commenter two. The parents and family
involved are massive a holes.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Ooh.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Ryan is going to be a monster in the coming
years because everyone keeps placating him instead of actually parenting him.
The fact that Mia is trying to pawn him off
and the grandparents are all off all of a sudden
going on a mini cation proves that they don't want
to deal with him, but rather help him understand that
he can always go, that it's okay to miss out.
They are teaching him that if he winds and screams

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a lot, he'll eventually get his way. Then the poor
daughter can even spend time with their parents without tantrums
and chaos, and that's simply not fair. Unfortunately, OPI can't
just take the girls and just go without being arrested
and charged. Just stay as much as you can in
their lives until they both leave for college. Show them
that you, hubby and cousin are with them no matter
what happens after this display of entitlement, and that is

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the end of the story.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
My wedding was almost ruined by my narcissistic family, so
we stopped inviting them to parties.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Who that was a close one. They almost ruined.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Your wedding party Rockers no longer in the.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
House to night party nights. Hey.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
My husband, thirty three male, and I twenty seven female,
got married in twenty nineteen. I had had my wedding
planned in my mind and through pinterest boards since high school,
and at the ripe age of twenty one, I knew
what I wanted. The planning was simple and in the
end we only spent about ten thousand Canadian dollars for
our small town one hundred and twenty person. Wedding colors
were our favorite colors, red and that Tiffany Teal.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
By the way, this.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Comes from user see you Tune ninety seven and you
can submit your stories at r slash ok story time.
So we had lots of family help. Mother in law
and father in law covered catering. Stepdad covered fifty percent
of the venue. Mother bought the gown, father covered chair rentals,
and grandma bought a cupcake display. We were fortunate enough
to have a family friend who used to be a
professional party and wedding planner do our wedding flowers and

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decoration for the ceremony as a wedding present or a context.
On my family side, I was the first granddaughter and
the first one to actually get married besides my grandma,
who was on her second marriage. As planning was underway,
there was invite drama for both sides of the family. However,
my husband's side was small potatoes. My grandma has textbook

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narcissism and buzzism. She's the kind that when she starts drinking,
she gives the worst unwarranted advice. She had an issue
that I wasn't wanting to invite all three of her sisters. Now,
don't get me wrong, they are lovely people, but I
just wanted close family and friends, and I never really
felt close to my great aunts. Another person I really
don't want to invite was my maternal uncle, who's also

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a narcissist and uses substances. Begrudgingly, from pressure from my
mom and grandma, we agree to invite him, despite going
against our better judgment. Some backstory from my grandma. She
grew up in a very old fashioned way where boys
were always considered priority and favored. Growing up, I never
felt that strained, possibly because I was the first grand However,
growing up, my mom felt that between her and her brother,

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her brother was always babied and was always given everything
he wanted. And my mom was always expected to do
the chores and the housework. Grandma has always been super
hypercritical of my mom, always giving unwanted advice you should xyz,
especially when she drank. She always had a grandiose idea
of her life, always tried to have the best house,

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the best car, painting herself in the most prestigious light. However,
her and my grandpa are unlikely to be able to
retire unless they sell their house at seventy five, a
house currently for sale that is extremely overpriced. The invite
drama definitely put a stain on the relationship between my
grandma and myself, so much so that the real drama began.
My wedding was in August of twenty nineteen, and in

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May twenty nineteen, my grandmother announced that she would be
doing a vowurnule for her twenty sixth wedding anniversary, to
take place hmmm, two weeks before my wedding.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Oh wow, that's not going to cause any problem.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Grandma's just seeing it as a you know, everyone's gonna
be there, so might as well just do it.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, everyone's gonna be there for your day, so I
figured that might as well make it my day two
weeks earlier.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
I was livid and hurt, but being a people pleaser,
I didn't want to fight it. I had no issue
showing my distaste by leaving early. Of course, that stirred
the BOT. I threatened to uninvite her unentirely, and just
as equally, she threatened to show up anyways, as I
was having my ceremony in a public part. I can't
quite remember what happened as I blacked out those memories,

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but somehow, some way I got an apology from her
and allowed her to be at the wedding. Could you
mention she I don't remember, but I guess.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
You're you're the grandma. Like CIA like hypnosis on you.
She like implanted a false memory in your head, of you,
of you getting an apology.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
My uncle is another story in his mind. He was
a father figure to me because my mom and I
had lived with him for like a year when I
was a baby. To me, he was that weird uncle
growing up, but still fun but also only half asked
everything he did.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
It's funny. He's like I raised you.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I mean in a literal sense, like I picked you
up and I raised you up off the ground.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
And I put you back down.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I'm your father. Now now I'm your father. I raised
you literally and figuratively.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
I did the simba. I did it. I did the simba.
I hold you up. Yeah, you're mine.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I can remember being ten or eleven years old and
my mom had us kids write letters to have an
intervention like that show they used to have on TV.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
What your Mom's having you stage?

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Your mom's having you write intervention letters for your uncle
kind of at tag.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Well, of course, back then, it was only booze as
far as I knew, and it has since progressed to
other substances. Despite his poor choices, he was never mean
and was harmless. At the engagement party, he tried to
pull me aside to ask if I really wanted to
get married and how my husband hurt me. He had
his own marriage blow up in his face because they

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were both chronically addicted, and he ended up losing custody
of his kids, which that's not great.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, that sucks, it's not good.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Now to the wedding. The ceremony was beautiful. Everything came together,
everyone was civil. My uncle even cleaned up and put
on a white shirt and dressed pants. We had the
receiving line, took photos. It was absolutely perfect. Then we
had some time before the reception to hang out with
the bridal party.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Enter the reception.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Less people attended than we initially thought would, so that
was a bit disappointing, but we all entered, took our seats.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
And entered.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
My uncle wearing a bright red and blue NASCAR shirt
and a dusty old cowboy hat, complete eye sore.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Hey, hey, hey, I watch it now.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Honestly, that's funny, Like that's the funk.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I agree, and you better not be mismirched Nascar. No,
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
I mean, yeah, I think it's funny. I think it's enlighthearted.
I know he's trying to, you know, stick out like
a sore thumb, but like he's there to support you.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
You can only choose how you respond to it, not
how clearly he's gonna wear that. So now you can
either be like that's funny or you can be really there.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
To embrace it.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
You're like, all right, we can like if that's it, great,
We shook it off, no issues, Okay, everything is fine.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Good.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Can't control what people wear. We all get food, Chef's
kiss delicious. Then speeches Initially, the plan was supposed to
be the best man, then the maid of honor, my mom,
my husband's mom, and that's it. There wasn't supposed to
be any open mic, but the MC dropped that ball
as people still got up from their chairs to make
a speech. Grandma was already two bottles of wine. Oh yeah,

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and she was completely wasted by the time she got
up to the microphone. Two bottles of wine for little
old Grandma.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Bottles of wine. Two two bottles of wine. You should
have seen me back in my day. I get put
it back like nobody's busy.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
You know what it happens at weddings. You can't control it.
That means she was having a good time, I guess.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I mean, yeah, but she's also got the active that
diiction into alcohol.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Probably, but yeah, not great.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Her speech made no sense and it trailed on to nonsense.
Completely an embarrassment, especially when my main concern was that
my husband's family would see my family as trash.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
She's like up there drunk talking about like, you know,
a couple of years agreatness.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
I just renewed my vows.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Yeah, I renew my vows two weeks ago, and honestly,
I'm remember when those raccoons used to come into our backyard.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Jesus, It's like, oh God, they're gonna think we're trash.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Once that tragedy was over, we got up to do
our first dance. No issue was there because I had
my father and my stepdad in attendance. I really wanted
to have both of them dance with me at my wedding.
I started with my Fall, and halfway through the song my.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Stepdad cut in. It was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
I was having lots of fun until my uncle, in
his entitlement, got up in his TACKI clothing and cut
in on my stepdad, who already didn't like it. I
was really surprised he didn't get punched out, but my
stepdad didn't want to make a scene, so thankfully the
DJ cut the song short because he realized that was
not supposed to happen. I was angry.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Shout out good DJ. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Then it was my husband's turn to dance with his mom.
He picked a very special song that meant a lot
to him and her. Halfway through the song, my mom
decided that she was going to get up and dance
with him as well. Oh oh oh.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
My mother in law was pissed, and so was my husband.
He even said after he didn't mind so much that
my mom cut in because it was a new mom
and he was really trying to make a good impression
with her. The part that really ticked him off was
my grandma decided to also get up and cut.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
In on the dance.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Oh no, my grandma, who had no emotional connection to him,
also wanted to get up and be a part of
it instead of just letting my husband have a song
with his mother.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, and then what are you supposed to do in
the middle of your like heartfelt dance? Supposed to be like, go,
get away from me, get off of the stand.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Why?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
My question is, why is no one stopping anyone? Like
everyone just like this is supposed to happen.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Right it is. It's just a free for all. Everyone's
just like I don't care.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
The more the merrier.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
As the night went on, so did more cringey stuff.
Grandma was intoxicated and stealing wine bottles from other tables.
My uncle got up to catch the garter when my
husband was tossing it, and he caught it very grandy.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
No, dude, honestly, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Imagine interception, that's actually really funny. I'm sorry, funk, I
just don't think intercepted. You're not appreciating how funny your
uncle Uncle.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Is actually really funny. I get it.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
This is in bad taste, true, But like a suspect,
this is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yo, I want to party with him. Catching the garter
in the NASCAR. Yeah, with the cowboy hat. That's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Uncle was also completely wasted. Part of me wishes we
didn't even have the booze at the wedding, but that's
not changing now. My husband and I left our wedding
by ten pm, but the party didn't end until midnight.
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Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yes, we are truly the Fun Uncle Podcast. Actually no
we're not. We're already story time.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Okay, story We're okay, story time. There is a little
bit more to the story, but at this point that
it's out of your hands. I know it's a little embarrassing,
but you just can't control people. Maybe you have like
some family friends, like hey, kid, you make sure uncle
and grandma don't do anything stupid.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yes, too stupid.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I think that's a good lesson to learn, is that
you should have had someone running point on the problematic
family members if if you didn't want them getting up
to shenanigans.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
But I think the way it's being handled because it's
not it seems like it's like, uh, for Opie, it's
very like this is stressing me out, or like this
is not the way I wanted it. But it seems
like to the naked eye, to people who are just expectating,
like okay, that's a little weird, or like whatever, they're
having a little fun, it doesn't seem like anything's being
really bad to my To us, it seems like it's

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not the worst thing that could have happened at a
wedding or someone's wedding.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I mean, like the vow renewal like weeks before was annoying,
but it's like, you know, it really doesn't have anything
to do with you.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
It has to do with them, and.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
It's like, it's not you know, it's not like it's
the day before. It's not really stealing your thunder.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
You probably inspired them. They're like, oh yeah, it's like
first grandchild's getting married. That's inspiring us.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Love is love, all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
A lot of stuff like it mostly just falls back
to how we perceive it, like as individuals, and if
you could like cognitively reframe something like even if like
the truth of the matter is like that it's exploitive
or it's like it's kind of trying to put you down,
if you can literally reframe it in your own head,
it doesn't matter anymore because now it's just all about

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how you perceive it and how you are feeling about it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
All in all, we had two villains for our wedding.
Every other aspect was practically perfect in our minds. See again,
I think you're too hyper fixated on the two villains. Yes,
that sucks and it was annoying, but I think it
was too hyper fixated that they really didn't do too
much bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
We might be like looking past the alcohol consumption. I mean,
I think we might be looking past that because we
didn't see it. So it might have been really rough
with that, yeah, but we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Every other aspect was practically perfect in our minds. I
definitely went through my wedding photos and deleted a bunch
of my uncles being at the wedding. We have since
gone super low contact with my uncle and only spect
to him once maybe twice a year. Maybe he's at
my grandmother's house, but he does not get invited to
any other family events. My grandmother has since been on
different medication and we still talk because if she's not drinking,

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she's genuinely a lovely lady. And I like to bring
my kids up to have a cup of tea every
so often. That's my wedding drama. And that's the end
of that story.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
First, my sister hates our father's girlfriend, so she plans
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Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Love is blind.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Shout out to that. I twenty three male, have two
younger siblings, Anna twenty one female and Chloe, nineteen female.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
We've always been close. Our parents split up when I
was nine, and our mom became pretty much a deadbeat.
I've seen her maybe five times in the last ten years.
So my dad, fifty male, raised us and it's pretty
much always been us in him. Even after he started
dating Fiona forty four female, when I was fifteen, our
dynamics stayed mostly the same and there were pretty much
no issues aside from just adjusting. By the way, this

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comes from user deleted, and you can submit your stories
to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So Chloe recently
moved out after living at home for her first year
at college, and a few months later, my dad announced
that he and Fiona were engaged and going to get married.
In my opinion, everyone expected this would happen since they
were together so long, but Anna was very upset. She's

(01:02:28):
been complaining to everyone about it for weeks, but mostly me.
She says it's like he was just waiting for us
to all grow up and get out of the house
so that he could move in his new woman and
be a family with her instead. She also doesn't like
that there's almost seven years of an age gap between them,
because he and our mom were high school sweethearts and
our mom was actually a few months older. So she

(01:02:49):
feels like our Dad is replacing her with a younger model.
Side note, she's never liked Fiona because she was still
hoping my parents would get back together when he and
Fiona started dating, Mom was less of a deadbeat then.
Anna also thinks that there isn't much passion between them
because every time she was over at our place, they
barely touched or just treated each other like polite acquaintances
since we were kids. She also doesn't see why he

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has to move her in before they're even married, because
Fiona's financially well off and doesn't need the stability. She
wants to be able to spend this summer with just
our dad and us without anyone else moving in yet.
She told me the other day that she's planning on
trying to set him up with one of her friend's
single mom instead, who she feels is much more age
appropriate and likable than Fiona, and whom she thinks he'd

(01:03:31):
have more chemistry with. She's planning on telling him this
weekend and wants me to back her up. I just
lost my patience and told her to leave me out
of this, and that she's ruining his life by trying
to set him up on some blind day as if
he's a child. She started crying and told me all
she wants is what's best for him because Fiona's the
wrong woman and he's making a mistake. But I said,
I don't see how this would help when he's already engaged,

(01:03:52):
and that she's being stupid. She called me an a
hole for being so harsh and hasn't talked to me
since then.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
So don't I don't. I don't know what amazon uh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
I think she's there's something here that's there's correlation to
just having anger and but like it's way too much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
I mean, this is not even the same sister. This
is a different sister. This is the others.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
The other sister is just pissed and now this one
wants to set up a blind day. But it's like
the rationale is weird because it's like, I don't know,
they never seem that close. It's like, yeah, probably because
the daughter like his daughter's being present. It's like he's
not gonna like go out of the way to be
like lovey dovey PDA with his new woman.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
They probably talked about it too, like oh, they're not
accustomed to this, or like don't like make it weird
for them because yeah, like I'm comfortable, So.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
It's just like, let's not be overly affectionate around the children,
and was probably a discussion. Yeah, I admit part of
me is also bummed that we won't have as much
of my dad's time anymore and that things are about
to change dramatically. So I wonder if I should have
been more validating or supportive of Anna. But I just
don't think our dad did anything wrong or that talking

(01:05:06):
him out of this will do any good. Am I
the a hole? I'm gonna say no, Jesus, I'm gonna
say no.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, no, Yeah, But there is an edit to add,
so let's get into that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
The main reason I'm saying guessing myself is because I
too would love another summer with just our dad. But
I have my own place now, so it's not like
I have nowhere to go if things get unbearable with
Fiona here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I don't think they will.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
She's always let us kids just do our own thing,
so it's not that big of a deal to me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I also do see where Anna's coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
About him and Fiona not being very romantic in front
of us our parents were much more at touchy peely.
I don't know if this means she's the wrong woman
or not, but to be honest, since my dad doesn't
seem to care, I don't either, thank you exactly. Yeah,
there and there it is. I don't see her as
another parent or anything. But we've personally never had a
problem with each other, and I don't think Chloe does either.

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I do agree my dad deserves to do what he
wants to be happy at this point, and now we
have an update. Yeah, sounds like his perspective is the
right one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Guess what, Dad as an adult and he can make
his big boy decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I think they've been together long enough that if they
weren't gonna work out, he'd know it. And I can
almost guarantee that they had a discussion where it was like, well,
we don't want the kids to feel weird, so maybe
let's be a little hands off around the children.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Which that's perfectly fine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Honestly, is the correct protocol. Always don't make things. Here's
the update.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Thanks to everyone who shared all the advice. A lot
has gone down, so I thought I should update. I
tried talking to Anna once more about not doing the
whole blind date thing, but she refused. So as folks suggested,
I went and told my dad I had to warn
him about something. So, as folks suggested, I went and
told my dad that I had to warn him about something.
Here's where I may be messed up a bit. Fiona

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was there and maybe I should have said it privately,
but there was no time. He asked what was wrong,
and I just couldn't get the words out. So I
said it's about the engagement and that it was best
he heard it from Anna. Well, of course he went
to her room to get her. We all sat in
the living room.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Chloe was already watching TV there, and after some coaxing
from him, she just exploded and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Started crying that it wasn't fair. Things were happening too
fast and he just decided to get engaged without even
consulting us.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
See I kind of called that one.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Yeah, that's where like some like I feel like, that's
That's what I meant earlier, is that they needed to
talk because things are like you, I think you're a
little confused. I was like, yeah, this is this is fat,
this is fast. Yeah, and it's bottling up. Something's bottling something.
There's something connecting over there. It's like, ah, something that's
good at.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I just don't feel like it's that fast. Dude, it's
been years. It's been years and years, but guess what
for been nine years for kids? I don't know. For something.
It just depends.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes they just you
can't except.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Nine years you see it coming, nine years. Sometimes you
should see it coming. Sometimes kids just can't don't want
to accept it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Yeah, she said, he just decided to get engage without
even consulting us, which he doesn't need to do, and
we were just supposed to go along with it, like
we're still children.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
I'm confused. What's the other option? She said?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
We never consented to our mom leaving us and had
no say in them getting back together, so that we
should have at least had a say in who he
started dating next. Please note this is not what I
personally feel, I think, which is good true, because that's
not right and this is clearly being said from a
place of like trauma.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
This is YAH, and this abandonment or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Correlating from something so much deeper than what she's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yep, therapy is needed. Therapy time anyway, my dad just
looks shell shocked.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Seeing his face made me feel god awful. He looked
silently at Fiona and she silently burst into tears. This
scared me because I've never even seen her cry. My
dad's rarely weepy, and I've even seen him cry more.
Dad held her hand and she just kept sobbing. I
told you, I told you, it felt worse. I felt worse.
One nice thing was Chloe got emotional to see this,

(01:08:55):
so she actually went over and gave Fiona a hug.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
I felt like doing it too, but thought it'd be weird.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
My dad hugged Anna and said he was sorry. He
never realized how she felt. He said it's too late
to set him up with anyone. I managed to have
Anna add this, if he was going to be with anyone,
it would be Fiona. But if this engagement was really
hurting her, the two of them would talk about whether
it could be postponed. He did say it's a done
deal that she's moving in this summer, though, since she
already ended her lease and made arrangements. Long story short,

(01:09:24):
he arranged family therapy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
There we go. So this is again. Okay, it's good,
it's good. That's the best thing that could happened.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
That's good, the best thing that could happen. I know,
especially with kids, they just don't want to talk about
their feelings and don't want to talk about things and
just like let things just brush under the rug. And
I think when you get confronted by an adult like hey,
how are you a feeling and usually kids are like meh,
I'm all right, Well I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, I'm hanging in there, chief, chief be chief.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
And now she's now it's all coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Fiona actually suggested it and said she was willing to
participate if it would help. I don't think I need therapy,
but I think I'm going to do it just to help.
Chloe agreed, and Anna hasn't said anything since this happened,
but I think that's a sign that she's accepted it.
Things were okay for the rest of the evening, thank god,
no blind date. Dad asked if I was okay and
thanked me for doing this. He said he was proud

(01:10:19):
of me, and I teared up a little bit. He
and Fiona sat on the porch for the rest of
the night with his arm around her. I'm honestly relieved.
Things have been calm since then. Anna is still quiet,
but at least she's not avoiding us or objecting to therapy.
The first session starts early July, and he's booked it
for the four of us for now. Thanks for all
the support everyone, I'm really hopeful things will get better

(01:10:40):
from now on. And by the way, did you know
that you can listen to full episodes with stories like this?
All you have to do is go to Spotify or
Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast from and
search Okay story time, and there you will find us.
You'll find a lot of us, find us, and you
can listen peak a boo intently do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
So there's a little bit of story left. But Kean,
how are we how are we feeling?

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
I'm feeling kind of warm inside, like this is oh yeah, yeah,
this is very nice. This is this solution is being
figured out. The family's talked, you know, everyone is getting
in on it. And I like how the father's like, oh,
I didn't realize, you know, because he didn't he didn't
listen or didn't want to not necessarily ask about how
his daughters were feeling, but like he didn't he just

(01:11:26):
wasn't aware. He wasn't aware, and that sometimes happens because
there was no communication there. Because again, at the end
of the day, how are you feeling, sweetie man, I'm
all right, I'm gonna go to my room now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Bye. Yeah. Yeah, it can happen. That can certainly happen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
So reaching out. I think that's the case in point
here is just reach out to talk to even if
it's a child or a loved one, even if they
say they're all right, like are you actually okay? Like
are you okay? To Koda?

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Yeah, seeing he's not okay, I'm actually great good. I
think okay, I think I am okay. I'm stressed out
about all the dust in the air.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Oh that's a different thing. Okay, Well, yes, let's go
to the Okay, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Finish this up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
And it's to add while it's true that my dad
never asked us for permission to date Fiona, I remember
him saying many times that he was starting a relationship
and that his biggest hope was for us to be
okay with it, and if not, he'd do whatever it
took to help us get there. We weren't necessarily thrilled,
but I know none of us had objected, though maybe
Anna just didn't think that it would stick.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I also don't think they should have to postpone their marriage,
but if that's what everyone sees fit to do, then
I won't object. I will really quickly just say that.
You know, I get being like I want my kids
to be comfortable with like the next person I'm dating,
but it's like they can't be like allowed to make
that decision for you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
No, I think it's a conversation with all three or
like whoever your children are like how do you feel
about my partner? And like you're like, hey, like I
want to hear your voicing and your reasoning and all that.
But because that's that family too, that they're a fan
yeah first Yeah, and they want to be comfortable with
the person you're dating. Yeah, obviously in this case, thankfully,

(01:13:03):
Fiona wasn't a bad person. Fiona was a very caring
person and respected them. But I think that's what needed
to happen at the beginning, was communication and talking with
the girls and seeing how they feel in general.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
And to add number two, just want to clarify that
my dad and Fiona are still engaged. No one has
called off or postponed the marriage yet, which I'm glad about.
Postponing was just something my dad suggested in order to
take more time to help Anna if it was needed.
But they're definitely still getting married, and he made it
clear he'd never marry anyone but her. I did make
it clear during the whole confrontation that these were just

(01:13:37):
Anna's thoughts and I don't share them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
I like that the most that Oafie was like, this
has nothing to do with me, and it's not I
have no thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
This is her, not me, her Ty, fuck, it's hers.
These are her thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
But yeah, no, I think I'm also good on you know,
the adults here and being like, we can postpone it
if this doesn't make you comfortable, and we can be
more of a family. And I feel like when once
Anna is like yes or like not necessarily get their blessed,
get her blessing, but it's kind of getting her blessing. Yeah,
but that's the end of that story.

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