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00:00 r/BORUpdates - My wife cannot get over the fact that my ex-wife is marrying a millionaire.
13:05 r/AmITheAsshole - AITA for defending my wife’s “classism?”
33:15 r/BORUpdates - AITA for being frustrated at wife's love of kpop
45:28 r/AmITheAsshole - AITA for shouting at my husband at a family gathering?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Angie and this is Keon, your favorite
Okay Storytime host, and we've got great stories coming right up.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
My wife is obsessed with my ex wife marrying a millionaire.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
We'll just be happy for you. Don't even know her.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I don't know what's gotten into my wife. When we met,
I was still married to my ex wife. I'm not
proud about it, but my wife started at our job
and we slept together after a party.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yikes.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
This was about six years ago. My ex found out
when she saw spicy picks on my phone. It broke
her and ended our marriage. Good on her, by the way,
this comes from Equipment Turbulent sixty seven. And if you
want to spit your own stories, go to the r
slash Okay story Times. I Breddit, I'm Sophia, I'm Angie,
I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Goofy, but we don't have all the answers.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
We only know what we'd do, So let us know
what you would do in the comments. And Opie says,
I married my wife a year later. Everything was fine
and my children gradually forgave me, and much of it
was thanks to my ex, who insisted that I was
still their father and that I loved my children.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Dang, yeah, your egg sounds great.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
They never liked my wife, however, because they've overheard her
my daughter did, talking badly about how fat and old
their mother was and how she was no competition.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
My god, your wife sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I'm not shocked because she cheated with a married man.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah you go, you both suck. Yeah? Not starting out
this story? Great? No, can we read it from your
ex's perspective? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Someone right now, I'd left my cheating ex and I
married a million Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
A great story. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Now my ex is happily engaged to a man who
is very well off. My wife was depressed ever since
she heard that sucks to suck, making comments about what
he sees in her.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And how it would it last.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
She has googled everything about him, his net worth, property,
social media accounts, and she doesn't stop talking about I
got very wary, and this last week she's been extra
depressed and angry, not sleeping, and she cried several times.
When she was finally taking a nap. I took her
phone and saw that she has sent the new fiance

(02:13):
some flirtatious texts via Instagram and even one spicy pick.
The only answer the first DM, when she introduced herself,
congratulated him about the engagement and told them that they
were basically a family thune. When she was getting more flirtatious,
he stopped answering and her dms were left un scene.
This was last week the pictures. I called my ex

(02:35):
wife and she confirmed that her fiance has been receiving
these texts and they were embarrassed and unsure what to do,
so they ignored her way.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yikes.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I didn't like fully register that. Yeah, so your current
wife is sending your ex wife's new guy spicy picks
and flirtatious texts.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
So it really so. When she was sleeping with you
in the first place, it was never about you. No,
she wasn't because she wanted to sleep with you. It
was because she wanted to mess with your ex wife.
I think that's it, and she's doing it again. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I think she literally is only you know in this
relationship as Yeah, she didn get her back.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, that would make a lot of sense with the
title as well.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I confronted my wife, and she became very angry, saying
that I have embarrassed her by talking to my ex.
He's embarrassed you girl, you're the one sending the crazy
spicy picks. Yeah, she was crying when I told her
that my ex was the one who suggested that they
just ignore her and not say anything.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Isn't that better for her?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
She admitted that she sent these, but it was just
because she felt my ex was a witch that didn't
deserve a fiance like hers with lots of money. That
is such an insult to you. Yeah, my ex wife
would be living in a nineteenth century penthouse. She also
told me that I was the one who drove her
to this, since she never felt she had won me completely.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh boy, that's pretty wild. Yeah, not even taking accountability
for what she's doing, not even like claiming that it's right.
But she's just saying that you are the one. It
is your fault.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yep, you made me want to reach out to your
ex wife. You drive me to this, You did this.
I want to know what the history between them is, like, Yeah,
the wife and the X RAYCT like were they were?
They friends at some point and then things went downhill?
For some reason. And then now that this is just
a long just a lot of like getting each other

(04:30):
back for stuff, or is good to suggest this wife
that's getting the other one back for no reason. The
other one seems like she's doing just fine. Yeah she's chilling. Yeah,
she's running away from the drama, not chasing it like
this girl.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
And Ope continues that I married her after my divorce
was a fact. I made her insecure. You didn't have
to hook up with a guy who was married.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, could have not done that.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, I don't understand. I thought we were happy, that
she was happy. She always told how she loved me.
I feel guilty, like I have made her miserable and
drove her to be this insecure. But at the same time,
I'm very pissed. And we've got some comments and some
extra info. Op says, I'm forty one, wife thirty three,

(05:15):
ex wife forty three, fiance forty to forty five, not sure?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And do we know when Opich did on his wife,
like how many years ago? Remember how many years ago?
But I think it was like six years ago or something.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
This is about six years ago.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, okay, so she was twenty and.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Then he got you married a year after that.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
H I mean regardless. So it was basically he got
with the younger woman ten years younger than his wife
at the time. Yeah, you suck.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, and your now your wife, your current wife is like, crap,
I got the wrong guy.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah yeah, Kitty Gri says, So your mistress is upset
that she bet on the wrong horse and has serious regrets.
Opie says, she swore that she wasn't interested in it life,
She's interested in you. She just felt that my ex
wasn't worth what she's getting and that she x has
been smug and arrogant about it. So my wife thought
she wanted to give her a wake up call. Yikes,

(06:14):
why are you married to this crazy lady?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
What her words.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Bryce Roe says, this is exactly what cheating gets you,
choosing short term validation over real love, emotional labor, patience,
and grace. Unless you realize why marrying her was a mistake,
you're doomed to repeat this unless your only goal was
to save face. Once you realize you took a nasty
dump all over your first marriage, the reason she's turned
into a banshee is because she wasn't with you out

(06:41):
of real, deep love. She was with you because it
made her feel better about herself. Women who play these
games will always be looking for outside sources of validation
to fill the hole where their self esteem should be.
Otherwise they wouldn't be fighting over sloppy seconds and prizes.
They are called pigmies and have warped self esteem. They

(07:02):
make reactionary choices for cheap validation and kibble instead of
retrospecting on what would really make them happy. Being above
your first wife was really important to her, and now
that fantasy bubble has popped because she found out she
disgraced herself for an average guy. Yeah, okay, so agape,
that's what I was thinking. But I does that mean
like love?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
You made this?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Bed Op says, I admit it was to save face
marrying my wife. That's why I feel guilty now and
not just outright pissed. I still love my ex, and
even though I'm happy she is happy again, I regret
what I did every day. I think my wife knows this.
That's why I'm not as pissed as I should be.
And another person says, I hope you didn't have children

(07:44):
with this person. She's obsessed with your ex did they
have a relationship prior to your affair? She's absolutely fixated.
Op says, No, she only met my ex a couple
of times before the affair. You think she chose me
because of my ex, because my ax was very well
liked in my office amongst my closest colleagues. We don't
have children, And there is an update two days later.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, good thing they don't have children. Yeah, silver lining.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I really would have either had a very serious talk
or have ended the relationship when she started, you know,
saying bad stuff about your ex, all this stuff about
oh she's fat, she doesn't deserve this, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, I would have had.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
A really serious talk and said, hey, I hate how
you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
My children's mom like that, who I betrayed to the
children too. It's like you cannot be like putting those
thoughts in their head like that. That is so confusing
for them and just not what they should be hearing
and involved in, like literally at all. Yeah. So, yeah,
but Opie doesn't seem to be making the best choices,
so I'm I'm surprised. Yeah, but we've got an update

(08:56):
two days later. We are getting divorced. Wooooo.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I have had multiple conversations with my wife about what
she did, but unfortunately, she doesn't seem to see how
bad it is about what she's done. She says that
she never was interested in my ex's fiance and just
wanted to make a point to herself more than to anyone,
and that she still believes she could take them if
she wanted. Doesn't consider what she did cheating. It was

(09:21):
a test.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
What are we doing? God? What is it going on?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Easy? What?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
She said that if she really didn't love me, she
would have left long time ago, because she can get
whoever she wants. I was speechless hearing her rage and cry.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
But I was done.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
We don't have children and we have very few joint
assets to divide. She will stay in the house until
she can find a place to go, but then we're done.
She's raging and calling me all sorts, but I guess
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
So very tired and done.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Now there is a little bit left to this story,
any final thought.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
My thoughts are boo, boo, this woman, boo this man, boo,
your choices boo, her ch voices yay, ex wife, Yeah, yay,
her millionaire fiance Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
What goes around, comes around.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, that's right. There you go. That's right, that's life.
That's nice for the wake up call.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I know I'm a crappy person, but maybe it is
time for me to stop punishing myself for what I did.
My wife was my constant reminder of the damage I'd done,
and maybe deep down I knew she was a bad person,
but I felt that I didn't deserve better because I'm
a bad person too, worse even. But maybe enough is
enough and I need to stop punishing myself. I have
two wonderful children, so maybe I'm not just bad. For

(10:38):
any legal advice, remember I'm not from wherever you come from,
and I'm not disclosing my identity or location, so please
don't bother me with legal advice. Smoother nineteen ninety three
says your wife's response makes me wonder if she knew
your wife prior to meeting you. Kind of on the
level of the show you, I worry about your ex wife,

(10:59):
say with the comments regarding I could steal him if
I want to. She orchestrated your relationship from the start
and was focused on destroying your wife at the time,
or she realized she gets some weird ego power boost
from stealing married men, and now she's jealous of your
ex because she didn't win.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
She does the oh married men.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah yeah, and then she does a whole freaking kung
fu sequence.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I would notify your ex wife so she can place
an OFP order of production just in case. And OP says,
I don't think my wife knew my ex wife. Her
obsession started afterwards, and my guess is because she never
got a reaction from my ex, who handled the situation maturely.
Even her remarks about my ex's looks are some sort
of ego boost since everyone knows that my ex is

(11:45):
very physically beautiful.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You freaking drop the ball.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
There, yeah, dude, And it hurt my wife very much
to hear gossip about me trading down. Wow. Yes, tough
for you, man, but also that's totally your fault, so
not that tough. I don't know if I did enough
to make my wife feel better either, so her obsession
may lie with me too, not only my wife. But

(12:10):
I can't stay anymore even if I admit that I'm
not a good person, and that is.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
The end of that story. Yeah, I mean that commentary
is really jumping to like the worst case scenario with
the whole U situation. I don't think she seems to
be in any physical danger, doesn't seem like that. This
obsession does not seem the level you like the TV show,
But it probably really is just like, Oh, I wanted

(12:35):
to get value from stealing other people's men and then yeah,
it didn't work, and now I feel bad by myself,
but I can't so I have to turn it around.
And actually she's the problem and I'm great and blah
lah lah lah. You know, seems like it all that
kind of stuff, my jazz. Yeah, oh, but we've got

(12:56):
another story coming right up.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Sho dom hm hmmm, we ready, Yes, we are.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
My mother looks down on my wife, so I told
her why she doesn't like her, because she has to
look up to her. When I thirty eight, male was
ten years old, my dad passed away. I won't go
into too much detail, but his passing was very sudden
and rough. Afterwards, my mom became pretty distant from me
and my little sister. We all had dual citizenship, and
my mother basically moved back to our home country, leaving

(13:25):
us in the care of family friends. I only saw
her sporadically from that point on. As a result, my
wife thirty seven female does not like my mom. By
the way, this comes from Positive Bats sixty eight twenty
and if you want to submit your own stories, go
to the hour slash Okay storytime subreddit and I'm Angie,
I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice. Gooflely.
But we don't have all the answers. We just know

(13:45):
what we would do in these situations, So let us
know what you would do in the comments, and op says,
I've tried to explain that she was just coping in
her own way, but my wife refuses to give her
the benefit of the doubt. She doesn't prevent me or
our kids from having a relationship with my mom, but
has made clear that she has no desire to pursue
one herself. Recently, I went back to my home country
with the kids to see her. I explained to my

(14:06):
mom that my wife couldn't come due to work, and
she seemed to understand. The first few days of the
trip went great, but tonight things went bad. After I
put my kids to bed, I went to have a
drink with my mom and my aunt, who she lives with.
As I was walking down the stairs, I overheard my
aunt say something about how my wife quote thinks she's
too good for us. My mom agreed, referring to my

(14:27):
wife as a snob, but warned my aunt not to
bring it up to me. My wife comes from a
wealthy family. Her parents passed away when she was young,
and as she was an only child, they left everything
to her. She's a smart woman and a hard worker,
but she likes the finer things in life and isn't
ashamed of that fact. In comparison, my family is solidly
middle class and more down to earth. Obviously there's a

(14:48):
class difference there, but my wife has never been rude
to my mother regarding this topic, could you remind me
why wife isn't here again? Why does she say she?
I mean? OPI told mom was because of like work conflicts,
But I think the wife just actually didn't want to go.
I think the wife doesn't like the mom for something.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
But I could specify that maybe they both don't like
each other.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, I'm wondering, is it it both don't like but
like what chicken you know, chicken egg situation? Yeah? Right,
who started this who started the war.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I can see the mom being like, oh she's rich.
Uh I hate her? Right? I started from there could
be I could be wrong?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Right. This bothered me, and I demanded to know what
my mom and aunt were saying. They clearly didn't expect
me to hear any of it, and my mom became apologetic,
but my aunt said that my wife's refusal to interact
with them is because she thinks she's better than them.
I explained that that isn't the case. That my aunt
kept pushing the issue. Eventually, my mom said it was
fine if my wife felt that way, but I shouldn't

(15:46):
defend her quote classist behavior. At that point, I snapped
and said that my wife resents my mom because she
wasn't around when I was a kid. Oh ago. My
mom and aunt didn't say anything to that, and I
went back upstairs. I texted my sister about it, and
she said that I should just apologize, but she's always
been less confrontational than me. I don't resent my mom

(16:08):
for what she did when I was a kid, and
I feel bad for snabbing at her, but the way
she was speaking about my wife was upsetting, and it
was clear that she and my aunt had gossiped about
her before. I probably could have handled it better, but
at that moment, all I cared about was defending my wife.
I don't want to apologize for that, but I also
know this won't blow over if I stick around, so
I'd probably have to go back home with the kids

(16:29):
earlier than planned. Am id a hole. We do have
an update WITHOU. What say you? I don't know. I
I think it is good that you stick up for
the wife. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I would love to hear more about why your wife
wasn't there or sorry, why your mom wasn't there?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, like when you were a kid. Yeah, I am
going back just to review that. I guess, yeah, dad,
what did it say again? So it said that uh
OPI's dad passed away when he was ten years old.
He's now thirty eight. I won't go into too much detail,
but his passing was very sudden and rough. My mom
became pretty distant from me and my little sister. We
all had dual citizenship, and my mother basically moved back

(17:08):
to our home country, leaving us in the care of
family friends.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Okay, you can take out my question. I understand now.
I just didn't hear that part. No, that's okay, good reminders,
Well take that out. But my question because it was
in the story, No, you're good, Okay. My thoughts, I
think your childhood was pretty complicated and it's tricky because

(17:33):
I understand why your wife would be upset about that. Yeah,
but also it seems like you have a little bit
more of an understanding of how your mom was feeling
and why it was a little bit more complicated then
she just kind of abandoned you.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like the real issue here is
that you need to have a full on conversation with
your mom about your childhood, like hash it out, because
I don't know if your wife should be like holding
onto the resentment that you have towards your mom.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, that is interesting to me, Like I wonder if
maybe wife is seeing how it affects OP more than
Ope realizes or something. Maybe that's why she resents more,
or maybe there are things like clearly he's visiting the mom,
so you know, it's not like they haven't seen each
other since they were kids. Maybe they've seen each other
a few times or something, so maybe there are other

(18:28):
things that kind of back that up in their interactions
you know, and or back up some sort of mistreatment
or neglect or something with the mom to ope, I
don't know, there's something that the wife is seeing that
we're not, and that maybe Opee isn't seeing either. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know, but we do have
an update. It's been a few months since I made
my post. After reading your comments, I realized it would

(18:51):
be rash to leave without trying to sort things out.
So I had a conversation with my mom the next morning,
when my aunt was out and my kids were still
in bed. I apologize for my outburst, but maintained that
the things they said were unfounded, and then if my
mom felt this way, then she should have talked to
me about it, and she agreed. I explained to my
mom that my wife disapproved of what she did after
my dad passed away, since staying with us or taking

(19:13):
us with her were both options. My mom said it
wasn't fair for my wife to judge her for something
she did twenty years ago, and that she needed to
be with a support system while she grieved her husband.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Kind of regardless of how like I personally feel about
that decision or how any of you guys feel.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I kind of agree with that.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I don't know if she should be like judging his
mom for something she did twenty years ago when Ope
seems to be okay at least enough to see her.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I kind of agree too, because also to like, you know,
if that's really what this whole issue is just about this,
like maybe it's some sort of other stuff that she's
not saying or something. I don't know, but like she
probably doesn't understand the full situation, Like maybe the mom
really wasn't in a good headspace to be taking care
of children. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, And I don't think that's like really on us
to decid what she should have done as a person
who had just lost her partner and had kids. Yeah,
it's not like she neglected them, like they were around family,
had people taking care of them. And again, really regardless,
it's not like was that the right decision or not?
That's not the question. It's that was twenty years ago. Oh,
he's able to have relationship. Should his wife just fully

(20:21):
be like stopping that in his track, like never having
a relationship, Yeah, over something that she wasn't involved in.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, exactly. My mom argued that since me and my
sister don't resent her, then wife had no right to.
I said that I couldn't force my wife to forgive her,
and asked her to stop talking badly about my wife
and to tell my aunt to do the same. My
mom said she'd do her best, but she couldn't control
my aunt. I said I wouldn't be comfortable in a
place where my wife would be disrespected, especially where our

(20:47):
kids could overhear, but she still refused to criticize my
aunt's behavior. Things weren't going anywhere, so I told my
mom I was going to go home early. She got
upset and defensive and realized she would also keep bad
mouthing my wife just when I wasn't around. That was
the final straw. I went back upstairs and got flights
for the next day. Send my wife a text saying
we'd be home early and i'd explain when I got back,

(21:10):
but everyone was alive and healthy. She said that she
was looking forward to it and asked if I wanted
to call, but I just wanted to do it all
in person. The next twenty four hours were awkward, and
before we left, my mom asked when she'd see me
and my kids again. I told her that I wanted
her in our lives, but I didn't plan on coming
back until my wife got more respect. There is more
to this story. This is all a little weird to me.

(21:31):
I don't know. Yeah, it's a little weird to me.
It's a little weird.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
And Kim Robber says, I don't agree. Mother doesn't leave
their children unless it's unavoidable. I'm not saying that it's
right or not. I'm just saying we don't know what
she was going through. Obviously, the kids were going through
incredibly hard time. Yeah, I'm not saying it is right
or wrong. I'm not putting a judgment on it. I'm
just saying that we're twenty years past it, and and

(21:57):
the wife wasn't.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
There, right, I mean, I was saying that it could
be understandable if it was something that was unavoidable. Obviously,
Like I'm assuming, like, you know, maybe she got into
some bad coping habits or something and was like taking
up drinking. I would rather have the kids in the
care of someone who was like emotionally stable, right, I
Mean that's the whole point of like foster care systems. Yeah,
that they're like necessarily good. Sure, but like so we

(22:19):
don't know. Yeah, that's just an option. But but yeah,
maybe it was bad at the same time, you know,
maybe she shouldn't have left them. Yeah, you know what
I mean. But it's just like any sort of anger
probably should come from Ope rather than Ope's wife if
it's not like affecting a lot of stuff now. Yeah,
but we do still have more to this story. I

(22:40):
think it's good that you're defending your wife. Yeah, I
think so too. It just feels weird, just something feels weird. Yeah,
it feels very weird. It feels like maybe we're not
acknowledging what the wife is doing and we're just leaning
too much into the I don't know. The way that
he's saying, like, don't disrespect my wife is just I

(23:01):
get it, you shouldn't do that, sure, but we're like
it feels blind in a way. Yeah, it feels like
we're not acknowledging other things in this situation. Yeah, because
she's also right, she can't control the aunt. So the
fact that the mom isn't like criticizing the ant's behavior
and that's a problem for OP. That feels weird to me.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't know, I guess I just have complicated things.
Because if Op today was like, I don't have a
strong relationship with my mom because she left me when
I was a kid, I'd be like, yeah, that's totally
up to you. Yeah, you had a very complicated relationship, right,
and you know now need to create distance because of
your emotions. Totally valid, But that's not what's happening here. Yeah,

(23:44):
he seems to be okay with having a relationship with
his mom, but his wife has never attempted to make
any relationship.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Seems like it. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I guess I'm wondering for you, guys, if you knew
that someone in your life, family member or like a
partner of a family member didn't like you and refuse
to ever meet you or not even meet you, but
like refuse to ever come over and create a relationship
with you, would.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
You talk about them? Well? Right, good question. I think
there's a bit of like a complex case.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
If Op was like, ah, I hate my mom or
like this, yes, yeah, that makes more sense. But it's
like I don't like it's weird. It's like like you, guys,
I agree with you, guys, it's very weird. Where like, yeah,
my wife is talking about my partner's talking crap about
someone like where I have no Yeah, I have no
beef with like yeah, yeah my childhood. Yeah we squashed

(24:39):
the bugets water under the bridge. Was it crappy whatever
she did? Sure, but you know what, that was her
decision and we went through it. We don't have a
time machine. We can't go back in time and change it.
I'm here now, We're in the present. But if mom's
talking ish about my partner too, I would say, for
my partner, it's just very weird where like I get it.
I don't know. It could be where mom's jealous that

(25:00):
my partner gets more time with me, now, you know,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I also think that if I.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Were the partner and I knew that my husband had
a really complicated relationship with his mom, I would want
to be there to support him. Yeah, I wouldn't really
make it about myself.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Exactly, Like I guess that's what it feels like to me, right,
Like that's if it was, like you know what Kian saying,
like what op is describing of, Like, well, yeah, if
I want to have this relationship, then that is what
the wife is supposed to do. Is just support her
partner and support her in that because it's not her
relationship at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
But it also does suck if my mom again is
talking bad about my partner, would like because of certain reasons.
I don't know. It's very like I feel like we
are missing something, yeah, or like there's not we're not
getting the full context from op yeah, because like it
feels like we have like one slice of like the

(25:53):
pie or pizza just missing where it's like we're something's
not adding up what's going on.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
We're totally allowed to say I don't want to have
like a lot of contact with you, which is what
it seems like at the end of the day you're doing.
That's your decision. It just is interesting to me that
your wife made that decision before you.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, this is very.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Weird, especially if this is going to be something that's
going on forever or like how long, Like we got
to stop this now.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
But and you guys have a lot of different opinions
in the chat, which is we also do still have
more of this story. By the way, I feel like
I should wrap this up. Yes, see what happens at
the end of the day. So I told my wife
what happened, and she made a comment about how she
thought they'd have called her far worse than a snob,
but she was grateful. Then I stood up for her.
She asked me what I wanted to do with my

(26:40):
mom going forward, and that she'd support me no matter
what I told her. I still wanted my mom in
my life, but that she and our kids were the priorities,
so I was going to put some distance between us
for the time being. Why I said that that sounded
like a good idea, and that she was proud of me.
I've been home with my wife and kids for months
now and things are still good with us. I've called
my mom several times, and unfortunately things were tense. My

(27:00):
sister is still in regular contact with her, and apparently
she feels judged over the way that she decided to grieve,
but I hope with time she'll understand my wife's perspective.
I do want my kids to know their only grandparents,
but not at the cost of their mother's comfort. Thank
you all for your advice. For those of you who
said I should get therapy, I'm doing fine, but thinks
with the concern, I don't think you should get there.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
You still should get there, especially what you told us
with your childhood.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, something I am remembering too, I'm going
back to make sure I can really see is that
I'm pretty sure the wife her parents died when she
was a kid too. Yeah. So I wonder if there's
any sort of like personal yeah, like projection resmment of like, well,
you had a parent there and she wasn't even choosing

(27:48):
to be around. Yeah, that sucks, you know what I mean.
But I don't know. That still feels weird to me.
But maybe we just don't have context. I'm not even
placing like this person is the a hole on anyone
in the store. It just feels like there's not a
full picture here. Yeah, I completely agree, that's all. If
you say it's good, then I'll trust you.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
If your wife is cool, that you're cool with that
and things are cool, go right ahead, my guy. Yeah,
and you guys can have different opinions to us.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Let us know in the comments what you would do
in this situation, how you would support your partner if
they had a mother or a parent like this.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, let us know.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah. Again, it's back to the point of like there's
a way to support your partner or support whoever you
want to support. But if it's doing it like a
it depends on how you go about it. And that's
I think that's where it's also come from here.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Totally, I'm just wondering.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Ken find says, Oh, he's like, but I'm not even
in shambles yet. Why would I need therapy? Nina Nelson
said she is supporting him, just not in the same
room as his mother.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
No, like, and I get that, like she is being
she is saying, you know, whatever you want to do,
whatever relationship you want to have.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I guess what, like I was kind of intrigued by
and a little confused by, is why she feels so
strongly about not being in that same room.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
But like before the whole like insulting her a thing. Yeah,
like she felt so strongly about that. And Nina Nelson says,
to me, the picture is crystal clear. Mom is the
ale wife is respecting husband's choices and has her own
firm boundaries.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I mean, totally fair.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, I guess I'm just I'm just curious about why
those boundaries are so.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Firm or how why did it start like this? Yeah, Like,
where's where's the history of like, yeah, oh my mom
met my wife or vice versa, my wife, you about
my history with my mom, and like she had a
like going into beating her, she had a prejudice of like, oh, you.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Know, because it doesn't feel like, oh, Pea's relationship with
his mom today is bad, Like it's not like obviously
it's not great because he does have a lot of
emotional stuff from his childhood, but it doesn't feel like
she's awful. We fight all the time, So I never
talked to her like that doesn't Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Was nice? Was mom offended by something? And then it
trickled down it just like how did this start? And
why is it like this? Other than like we're here,
this is what's going on. It's like, yeah, I think
we need a little bit more context of yeah, why
is it like this?

Speaker 3 (30:09):
And there was a comment earlier that said, like, my
best friend hates my dad or something like my abusive
dad or something like that, like my dad was awful,
my best friend hates them, whereas Okay, Niana Nelson says,
my dad treated me horribly. One of my best friends
hates him for that. Her job is to love and
support me, not my dad. The same thing goes for partners.
In my opinion, I totally.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Agree with that.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
A few things that I'm like gonna kind of point out,
i think in this story that are coming.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Up to me.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
In this story, the mom didn't treat him horribly for
like the entire extent of their life. You know, she
had a period where she you know, neglected them, which
is terrible while she was grieving, and then it seems,
came back into his life and they were working on
rebuilding that. So that's like it sounds like a little
bit different than your situation. And also, would your if

(31:02):
you said, hey, I want to like visit my dad,
would your friend be there for you or would they
be like, well, I hate your dad. They suck, So
I'm I'm not gonna go there. You know, Like, is
your friend's hatred so much that they cannot be in
the room with this person or is it just I
hate them because they hurt you, So I'll do whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You need me to do, you know, right, it's like,
oh they did that to you. You you're cool with them,
but I hate them for what they did to you
kind of thing. Or it's like it's again, like how
do you want to support.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, me, And those are just things I'm questioning, not
things that you guys have to agree with. Yeah, Kim
finds his mom is giving the vibe that she talks
scrap on wife, blaming a perceived sense of superiority for
the disconnect. But she really doesn't like people other than
her kids and fam knowing what she did, Sair Binging says,
I think if the mom felt cold from the wife,
she could have asked opee or the wife and not

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crap talked about behind the back.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Do that's so mean girl behavior too, you know?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Nelsen says, I agree, sof you. Mom and my dad
are completely different. I just want to show the friend
partner thing. Yeah, fair, I think no, But I also
think that's a good point. I think that's like an
excellent or a friend partner thing. I think that's an
excellent point to bring up because.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
It does relate here. Yeah, interesting story. I can't read
who that is from. It's too far away and lovely.
Fawn says.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I just think grief is not an excuse to neglect
your children. I understand needing a support system, but your
children need a support system too. Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, I
think it's not an excuses an explanation.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, and I was more like literally just imagining a
rare occurrence of like, you know, going into real bad
habits where it's not safe for your children to be
around you. You know. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Unfortunately, when you're in grief, you don't always make good decisions.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Still human too, Yeah, yeah, but yeah most of the time.
I mean, you know, parents should be there. You can't
always fix those decisions.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
You know, like she could have lost her relationship with
her kids completely after that, and she would have to help,
She would have had to deal with that.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
That's true. That's true. But you know you don't want
always have that kind of forward thinking.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
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Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
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Speaker 3 (33:15):
My wife is obsessed with K pop and it's frustrating me.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Maybe you should just hop on board.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
I twenty eight male, and my wife twenty eight female,
have been married for two years now. It was an
arranged marriage, but she seemed perfect for me. That was
until I found out about the other man. I Choi Minho,
did I pronounce that.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Right from the ka pop group.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Shinny Shini is a successful K pop group that has
been active from two thousand and eight. The group consists
of four members Onu, Ki, Mino and tay Mint. It
used to be a five member band, but John Yune
passed away in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
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Speaker 2 (34:00):
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Speaker 1 (34:05):
That's Ke, I'm Ke and we're here.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
To give good advice scoofully. But we don't have all
the answers.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
We only know what we'd do, so let us know
what you would do in the comments. And no says
she loves me and she does show it and she
never compares me to him. But it can't help but
feel insecure when she's yelling at another man's abs as
he's dancing to a song. The other night was a
last straw tbh.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I think you're in the wrong. Yeah, I'm gonna say
now o P I'm against you. Yeah, I'm sorry joining
huh yeah, what you're not hypnotized by those abs. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
My boyfriend and I just spent a whole, like friggin
two weeks watching He's a rivalry.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I can't relate to you.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
She spent money on a concert for Shine, which I
was fine with as I like their music too, But
as body Rhythm came on, she started quite literally foaming
at the mouth.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
And scot mouth.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Bitter.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I think you should check on your and make sure
she doesn't have rabies.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yes, but screaming at a concert. What screaming at a car?
She might as well be sleeping.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
With the boy next door. Man next door. I told
her she was being weird and asked if she loved
him more than me. She said yes, and continue with
her concert.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I that's interesting, that's I stand by her, Yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I go on, have choose your words carefully?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, no, I mean don't. You don't even have to
choose them character No, no, no, go for it. No,
I'm just I have been in her situation before, where
a boyfriend was jealous of the people at the concert
that I was going to. Yeah, okay, and it was
the stupidest effing thing I've ever heard. That weird genuinely.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I think it is really insecure to be jealousy celebrity
that your partner can never be with.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yes, it completely ruined my concert experience. Luckily I saw
them again afterwards, so we're good. Yeah, but I'm with her,
I completely When you.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Say that you love that group or that person more
than your your your current Riley out of yes.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
But yeah. But that's the thing though, is that of
course you don't. Of course, it's you're not like you're
cheating on your partner. So it's like, what kind of
question is that? Like she probably said yes. Yeah, she
probably said yes because she thought it was a joke.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, that's me with Carly, Like if I was like,
do you love Renee Rap more than me, she'd be
like no, I'm like, you can lie to me, you
can say you can, you can tell me the truth. Yeah,
you don't have to lie to me. I know you
love Renee Rap more.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
I think it's like it's it's like a non question,
you know, yeah, it's not a real question.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Exactly, like what do you mean I like this this
K pop group more than you? Like, I'm like, if
you I'm married to you.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Exactly, Like if you ask Savannah, she'll say that she
loves Joe Kiri more than anyone.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
She'll abortate or you know, be with sure me too,
would she?

Speaker 3 (36:52):
You know, she's like I think she like she was,
like she jokingly said to like the last person she
was with, Like, you know, if Joe Kiriy came to
me and like said.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
I'll be with you, I'd have to leave you. Yeah. Yeah,
like it's a thing. It's a nice I don't know.
I was going to say, yeah, if you're not like
in the industry and you're like working on their team
or something like that, and you know them personally, then
them being a celebrity is different. I agree.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Sorry, I broke and yelled that she never loved me
in the first place, and to that, she looked at
me and continued, she's literally still doing the dance.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
What Yeah, sorry, that is so good.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
But after the concert she got pissed at me for
suggesting such a thing.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, try to ruin her concert. Yeah. Joe Curry, he's
Marie Curie's son. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Joe Kerry is a singer slash also Steve from Stranger Things.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
He's Steve the Hair, Harry the Hair Harrington sho pieces.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Isn't it objectifying men filming at the mouth when seeing abs?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I think there is a very big difference.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
There is, I think a way to objectify men that
is like, hey, be appropriate. But I think when you
have in this scenario a guy showing off his abs,
there is an element of consent. Consent yeah, and like intentional.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Like it's like that's what they're doing. It's yeah, Like
I think there is an intent to be like he's spicy.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, I want to I want to see what ope's into,
Like maybe he's other like another band or like maybe sports,
and like he got really excited for his team, you know,
he wants to watch a game. It's like, yeah, it's
like that.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
I think there is a disrespectful way to go about it,
Like if they were trying to touch the performer, if
they were shouting really upscene.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, or if this wasn't a performer, this is just
some guy that like flashes abs at on accident, then yeah,
that would be objectifying. There's a different things objectifying is
the is like you are the one doing the thing
doing the objectifying. But if he's up there and already
presenting himself that way, then he is consentually objectifying himself. Yeah, yeah,
and it's fine. Yeah, So I'm just gonna I love

(39:11):
youa I'm gonna ignore that question.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I was. I was gonna say the only time would
be like maybe like scratch your head or like maybe
it's a red flag is if she's like, hey, I'm
gonna like every day she sees like or here's the song.
It's like, hey, if they're ever here, I'm leaving you
for for them?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah how much? Which that'd be rude, Like she's doing it.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, it's like come on all the time.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, in a serious way.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, She's like I will leave you in a heartbeat
for that.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah. But I don't know. I think it's weird for
you to have done that at the concert that she's enjoying.
Don't go with her if you're instacre.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
It's been a couple of weeks now and I'm trying
to be fine, but it's been playing in my mind.
I've locked myself in my room as I'm typing this,
and I don't know what to do. I feel guilty
for having an outburst on her because I know how
much she means to her, but I'm also sad that
she doesn't seem to show me the same love that
she shows me.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
No.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
I know she has helped her through some of her
roughest patches, but I want to be that to her
as well and not feel inferior to a group of
Korean men. And we've got comments.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Hey, Opie, hate to break it to you. Your inferior
to a group of Korean men. Yeah, but you're still
married to your wife and she still well hopefully loves you.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think if that's the issue, then
you definitely did go about it in the wrong way. Yes,
if you feel like you are looking for more affection
or you're feeling insecure that you don't quite know if
she appreciates you and loves you in that same way,
then we can just ask, Yeah, there's other ways that
we can go about that. We don't need to say, well,

(40:40):
well you can't. If you can't love me like that,
then you can't love them like that. That's not okay,
agreed comment, You're the a hole. Also, just for more information,
a lot of fans are insanely protective and supportive of them.
Because of John Yun, who passed away a few years ago.
For a lot of fans, this isn't just about their music.

(41:01):
It became very personal and important to them and about
trying to be supportive of the other members and their
mental health. And we've got an update. Okay, Yeah, I
think you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
You gotta change your mindset a conversation with her in.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
A reasonable way. Yeah, this is like, you know, there
is this insecurity here. Yeah, as we see in general
jealousy stuff and obviously you know, you seem to have
kind of admitted that, yeah, with saying like you just
don't know if she feels that way towards you. So
that's something that you need to fix now and not
you can't expect her to fix it. Agreed, So update,

(41:37):
Thank you for your comments.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
My wife was scrolling on Twitter last night and saw
that someone had posted this on there and laughed and
showed it to me, joking that it sounded a lot
like me, you.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Start sweating, you start doing the dance. Now you're like yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I snabbed and told her that it was in fact me. Wait,
so she found the Reddit posts was on.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
It was on, Well, because it was, I guarantee you.
It's like a fan account on Twitter of that group
and they're like, could you could get a load of
this guy?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
There's a little bit left to this story, any battle thoughts.
I think I've said my piece. I'd love to know
his reaction to this me too.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
We ended up having a long conversation and she elaborated
to me just how much she need kept her sane,
especially when her chronic depression was at its worst. She
reassured me that she loved me and that would never change,
and that the love she had for she need and
the love she had for me were different and incomparable.
I feel comforted, and I feel bad for overreacting, but
she also did agree that she felt bad after that

(42:33):
day but didn't know how to address it. I'm currently
trying to see if I can get tickets to any
tours coming up and maybe even fly her out to
see them. I love her so much, and I've accepted
that sometimes it's okay to be second to toy, you know,
because at the end of the day, I'm her husband
and I'm the one she'll come home to every day.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
You finally got it. Yeah, you silly, silly man, silly goose,
silly ooz slert. I'm so happy that you finally understood. Yeah,
me too. But that's the end of that story. And
yes it is theres another one, Yes, there is.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I don't know if I have like a like a
celebrity that I a singular celebrity that I obsess over. Yeah,
I don't usually do. I was definitely obsessed with Bosco
for a minute there. Bosco, she's a brag queen. She's awesome.
Then we saw her perform and it was cool and
it was great.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
So yeah, yeah, I think that that kind of, you know,
satisfied that obsession for a bit.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Now obviously, I mean I still love tom oh yeah, yeah,
but I but I also love his relationship with Sundayas.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
So it's cute, cute. They're pretty cute. Getting me, get me,
I gotta get mad. I know it's a cute. Yeah,
it comes to ghosts. I need to see this joy
me now. I feel like too. I mean, even if
you weren't necessarily like, you know, oh my gosh, I
want to date that person, you can still appreciate how

(44:04):
hot they are. I also agree, you know, I mean
that's how I was with Bosco. Bosco literally did like
a burlesque a whole burlesque number and stripped down to
the middle. Yeah, it's true. He's cute. Yeah, and so
it's like yeah, and I'm we're they're cheering because that's
what you do. Yeah. I think, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I think I have a very different relationship than OP
does with my boyfriend of appreciating like attractiveness. Yeah, especially
I mean specifically with celebrities. Yeah, and like TV shows
and stuff. And I feel like I know a lot
of stories that we read where people are like uncomfortable
with that.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Mm hm, which I encourage you guys to not. Yeah,
enjoy show enjoy together.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
It's like that's a fictional character in all intensive purposes,
you know, yeah, exactly, the persons of like respect and
bappa ba.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
That's kind of how we, like, you know, treat celebrity
obviously in some ways. You know, it's good to remember
that they're human beings. Yes, absolutely does still respect them, right, right,
But when they're like in a performers or something like that,
it's not like, oh, I'm realistically, yeah, I'm gonna go
like hit on Sabrina Carpenter right now, you know what
I mean, Like it's you know, so it's not gonna happen. Yeah, son,

(45:18):
then it feels like they're a fake person of that
in that way.

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Speaker 2 (45:28):
I've had enough of my husband's remarks, so I shouted
in front of everyone. Shut up. I twenty five female
and my twenty seven male husband had a child three
months ago. But the pregnancy was hard on my body,
especially after the delivery. I have stretch marks all over
my stomach and I also got diagnosed with PPD. Dan Well.
I am working on it now and doing better day

(45:49):
by day, but since my delivery, I have been extremely
tired taking care of the baby and stuff. By the way,
this comes from deleted and if you want to submit
your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime
separate it. I'm Angie, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're
here to give good advice goofily, but we don't have
all the answers. We just know what we would do
in these situations. So let us know what you would
do in the comments. Pease and OPI says since last

(46:11):
two weeks, I started going to the gym again with
my husband. One thing which irked me, which was he
always made remarks about my stretch marks and how I
should be somewhat better by now. He was talking about
my body and how it always quote turned him off. Wow,
oh uh bye, that's terrible. I kept up with it
since I didn't have any mental strength to argue. But

(46:32):
four days ago, when I was feeding the baby, he
again made a remark about my stretch marks. I don't
know what happened inside of me, but I shouted back
at him and literally berating him about it so much
that the baby started crying. Good on you, not for
making the baby cart, but like for standing up for yourself. Yeah, honestly,
I took the baby and went to the spare bedroom
to sleep. Well. Since that day, he has been giving
me the cold shoulder and we'llly ever talk when it's

(46:53):
about the baby. Yesterday, we had to go to his
mom's house for a family gathering, and midway through the night,
when all the people were present in a single room,
she brought up the topic about my body and my
stretch marks. She basically said, it's not normal that I
still have them, and then I must not be doing
enough to get rid of them.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Oh wow, my godow immediately divorcing him, and I'm like
Godzilla flames everywhere. Yeah, everyone's everyone's gone burnt to a crisp.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, because what do you mean why is that the
most important thing in this situation right now to try
to get rid of stretch marks?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Also, hey, you want to carry the children inside?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, oh it's not normal. Wait you're talking about how
would you like if if all your organs moved around
and your body and skin had to stretch out so
much more than it usually does. It's like absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
He's like, look, beer belly.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Literally incredibly normal part of pregnancy, and it happens just
in any other other situations too. Yeah, like you could
just get stretch marks from so many other things growing.
We're just growing, literally body changed. So like, what if
that happens for a reason other than pregnancy? Is he
what is gonna say? Then? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
This guy's insane and it's so and clearly he got
all of this disgusting, like fat phobic comments from his
mom learly, Well.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
All the people ages forty plus chimed in. My mother
in law's support, and I was so embarrassed and ashamed
by this that I left midway. I did shout at them,
and I left without my husband. Good on you, honestly. Yeah.
I drove to my sister's home with the baby and
I've been living here since yesterday. Most of our mutual friends,
specifically guys, support him and have bombarded me with messages

(48:31):
about how I overreacted and it's my fault.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Shocking.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Yeah, literally, I'm dropping every one of these people.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Well, so did my husband this morning, seeing how I'm
overreacting and it's nothing I should just come back, et cetera,
et cetera. I haven't replied to any of them, and
I don't have the mental capacity to even think about it.
But I do think I shouldn't have shouted at them
and that I was wrong. But I need an outside perspective.
So am I the ahole? Zero percent? Yeah? Definitely not.
In ps. My husband has always been supportive and caring,

(49:00):
even during and after the pregnancy. The stretch marks on
my body are the only thing he complained about, and
for the first time since we've been married did he
complain about anything. There is an update here, and yeah,
I mean, I I don't know, like maybe if they
weren't that loud about it, or if they not as
many people were chiming in or something, maybe you shouldn't
have shouted. But it seems like it was very overwhelming

(49:23):
and no one was being nice to you at all.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
And the audacity for forty people? Yeah, was it forty
people or just it was people forty above?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Well, regardless of how many people are there, of anybody
is not your doctor yes to say anything about your body.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, because like it's not even like they're thinking like, oh, well,
you mentioned that you don't like your stretch marks and
I have a solution for that. They're just saying like, oh,
it's not normal for that. Most people get rid of
them by now, or most people do more to get
rid of them. So it's actually a problem with you
as a person. Ridiculous, that's insane. We do have an

(50:02):
update one week later. Few things I should have mentioned
in my last post but didn't. Not all people were
against me, many supported me, and it's my fault for
not mentioning it. Also, this happens a lot in Asian families,
and honestly, I was surprised. It's so rare everywhere else.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Lol.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Well I found out how my mother in law came
to know about my stretch marks. My husband casually mentioned
it in a chat that he had with her, and
it turns out she barely has any stretch marks on
her superior genetics, I guess, and surprise, surprise, for some reason,
she hates me, and she tried to turn my husband
against me by telling him that it's not normal and
I must be doing something wrong and that it can

(50:41):
be harmful for the baby. What. Yeah, the audacity crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
So a couple things she sucks. Yeah, your husband's kind
of dumb if he believes all that.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, harmful for the baby is crazy. Yeah, it's not
gonna affect the baby at all, especial already here, baby's
already here. Yeah, and so even if baby was inside
of you, how would that even affect it?

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah, like those stretch marks are harmful the baby.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
The baby is growing, baby's over here.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Your body's stretching to accommodate a baby, right, Well, so
it's not superior genetics. Yes, have different bodies. Yeah, that's
a mass superior thing to have no stretch marks.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, it's a totally normal thing, and it does not
matter at all. Nope, there is more to this story.
I'm just gonna jump right in. Unlet's do anyone else
else to say? Nay, okay, cool. I guess it worked
because my husband also started doubting and pestering me about it.
I had a long chat with my husband about it,
and he's agreed to try to work things out, starting
with marriage counseling as many of you suggested, and I

(51:41):
also twisted his arm to go to individual therapy. We
are still living separately, and to make things clear, he
has never mistreated me before this incident, though thanks to
you all, I realized how condescending his family was towards me. Subtly,
he has agreed to go no contact with them and
we won't be allowing them to visit the baby. I've
told him that if things don't work out, divorce is

(52:02):
still very much an option for me, so I hope
it doesn't get to it anyways. Thank you all for
your advice. It helps me so much, and I hope
it all works out for me. I hope it works
out for you too, me too. Yeah. Good luck? Okay, well, good,
that's good that he's on your side now. It seems Yeah,
he fell for it and now he's learning hopefully hopefully
hopefully they learn too. Yeah, it's probably sorry, No, no,

(52:24):
that's it. It's probably gonna be confusing to them if
this is some sort of like cultural thing in generations.
Bless you. They've talked about stretch marks and it's like
a normal thing to talk about. Yeah, they probably will
not understand why this means that they don't get to
visit the baby. So you'll have to, you know, explain
that a bit. But that's another that doesn't seem that bad.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah, I don't like any of them. Yeah, but that's
the end of that story. We've got some comments here.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
We have some comments from the video and my deal
I can't forget my husband for my labor experience. And
this was posted January fourth, twenty twenty. We have a
TLDR from story one. OPI went through a scary emergency
berth totally alone with her first baby, so when baby
number two was on the way, she was counting on
her husband to show up. Instead, he questioned whether she

(53:13):
was even really in labor, left her alone with the
toddler while he went hunting, made her stand outside in
the cold, taking pictures of his deer while she was
having contractions, and never even got her in the milkshake
she asked for after surgery. Nine months later, Opie still
cannot let it go, and her husband thinks she's being dramatic,
so she brought it all to couple's therapy and what
happened next nobody saw coming. Oh did he finally step up?

(53:38):
Or did Opee reach your breaking point? If you're curious
to know the full story, you can go watch the
full video.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I want to know. I mostly remember the story. That's insane.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Have we read a couple stories like this? I don't
know if this is the same one, because I remember
there's like a couple with like the husband's obsessed with hunting.
Maybe it's different. I don't over remember this.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I just think of Game of Thrones. But that's all.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
We do have some comments here. First comment's gonna be
from Kaitlyn Johnson in twenty six to seventy first story.
I can't comprehend how Opie's family thought the husband's actions
were funny and she would look back one day and
laugh that happened The husband forgetting the baby's slash hospital
stay bag is funny the husband driving incredibly slowly home
with mom and baby is funny. Making his stress all

(54:23):
about him and not understanding why she would be distressed
is far from funny.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
It sounds like it. Yeah, none of it is funny. Wow.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
We have another comment here by Izy Khan twelve thirty five, saying,
the bare minimum what husband can do for his pregnant
wife is to stay with her and hold her hand.
Mine was with me and I was happy. I could
hold him when it hurt and feel his presence. And
this guy couldn't do any of that, new sir, This
guy didn't even believe she was pregnant.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah, that's crazy, the worst offense. That's insane. Wow.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Another comment here by Tanzan Night twenty three forty five,
saying this happened to me too, but my ex went
fishing while I was in labor.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Oh, oh, what's up with these men? What are they doing?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Don't you know like at least like if it's like,
you know, one month early, that's one thing, but like
don't we know usually the timetable of like, yeah, when
it's gonna happen, so plans.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yes, within that month, you're not going anywhere?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're on call, You're on standby
at all times. Yeah, Tanza, I continues with, I had
already driven him back home in labor and I was
left looking after our two year old. I know I
never would have gotten over it, but I didn't walk
away straight away, even though I should have. Oh man,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Hey, Yeah, it's tough. It's tough, but I'm glad that
you know, you guys are realizing and op realized. Is okay?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
We have one last comment here by Nathalie Claire eighty eight.
Party feels like he read the post, saw the comments,
but more importantly, he saw that she first mentioned divorce
and that was the thing that really snapped him out
of it of what he was doing. I'll say, yeah,
did he I don't remember, but that's good if you did.
I'll say his marriage must be important to him, if
he's doing what he needs to do in order to

(56:03):
make it work, even if it took longer than it
should have. But better late than never, Good luck to
them both. Ah, I don't know about better late than never. Yeah,
it should have never happened in the first place, especially
good way I'm telling you these things, I'm getting sure, great,
especially when they have kids. I guess he finally figured
it out, figured it out, but I don't know. I could.
I would not be happy with my partner for the

(56:25):
rest of my life if they made it totally funny. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, it's not really the kind of thing that you
could just like, forgive and forget. No, that's gonna be
stuck in my head forever. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
But that is the end of those comments and the
end of this episode. So if you love us, make
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Speaker 2 (56:40):
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