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We had an unplanned pregnancy and now the mom wants
a DNA test test failed. Maybe And this is directly
from our subreddit, our slash Okay story Time. Yo. Not
sure where to start, so I'll begin with how I
met G thirty three female and I thirty nine male,
connected through hinge in January of twenty twenty four. The
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first date was fine, so we decided to go on
a second date, which went much better. Hell yeah, After
a month of meeting each other, we met a friend
and her husband out and made a night of heavy drinking.
One thing led to another and we started a mess around.
Is it really messing around? If y'all are dating consistently,
they're messing around? By the way, this comes from Major
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so as things get eat it up. Oh god, she
stopped me and asked if I had protection because she's
not on birth control. In my wasted stupor, I replied
that I did not, but had great pullout game, and
then we proceeded with the fun No you don't, No,
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you don't. Any man who says.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
That is lying unadvised weight he said he did, he
did or did not.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
But I'm saying any man who says that is lying,
use protection, use it. Naughty naughty, O p naughty naughty.
You're one of our own, and I'm telling you off.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Come on, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, flash forward one month and we find out that
she was pregnant.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Oh, I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Who was giving you the stats about your pullout game?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I couldn't have protected that. We need a chart, Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I need a chart. Where are these stats coming from?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
We need doctors.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I think that apparently my pullout game sucked. Yeah, shocking.
At this point, we were in month two of our relationship,
Dan Woo, and things had been going great. But this
news threw a wrench into everything. Yeah, we will spend
the next month trying to process this news and prepare
for our new edition. It was in month four when
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things started to take a turn for the worse. It
started with a doctor appointment with a genetics specialist regarding
a genetic disorder of mine. Oh oh. The doctor mentioned
kidney tests that had been ordered for me to take.
I hadn't done the test yet, but went to the
hospital the next day. She was understandably upset with me
and let me know after that there was nothing I
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could do right. She became irritable every time I saw her.
I attributed the change in attitude to new hormones that
she was experiencing, so I just kept apologizing for any
grievance of hers. As that month continued, she started to
become condescending, asking if I could do anything right or
if I was good at anything, because I don't think
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you are. Could not trust me to do any task
that she gave me because I just screw it up.
Eventually I lost my patience. I calmly, and sheepishly asked
her not to speak down to me. Yeah. She gave
a sarcastic apology and spent the rest of the night
not talking to me and sleeping in another realm. Healthy. Yeah,
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I mean, you were two months into your relationship. It's
I mean, not even official relationship. This is a lot,
but they had spicy sleep. Yeah, they did. This lasted
the entire month, with her eventually breaking things off with me.
Oh after we got into an argument at the doctor's office.
I spent the next two months trying to win her back,
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but she just continued to be condescending In short. Additionally,
I may have pushed too hard with her and should
have given more space and not asked to meet. Eventually
we began to only text on Mondays with updates on
the baby only. I was fine with it, but always
asked to speak with her about co pair ranting our child,
which is what she should be doing. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah,
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absolutely very fair parenting pulla game, maybe not strong, but
parenting game stronger.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know, daddy's doing good. Daddy's doing good so far.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
As the months went by, she became increasingly hostile towards me,
and every time I would ask the baby how the
baby was doing or if she needed anything, she would
either not answer the questions or snap at me. Eventually,
the updates became all as well, with no additional information
to no updates at all. I felt as if she
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was just hoping I would go away. I eventually filed
for a paternity hearing to determine parental rights and visitation,
knowing that she would leave me off the birth certificate
and prevent me from seeing our daughter. Lash forward to November,
our baby girl arrives and she's a healthy seven and
a half pounds. Of course, I did not find out
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about the birth until four days after she arrived. That's
not great. Oh my god, that's not great. Predictably, then
took a week to get a picture and another four
weeks of begging to eventually meet her. That's I mean, yeah,
definitely see if you can file some sort of hearing,
because this is I mean, she's gonna fully leave you out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And also I'm like, hey, don't don't you want any
want any help?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Diapers?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's like cool.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean, she's trying to leave a piata everything. Oh.
When I finally got to hold her, she was the
most precious thing ever. I was just in love with
her and never wanted to put her down. She was
my daughter and so lovely cute. We are now a
week from our hearing and her lawyer just submitted a counterclaim.
Most of the points he contended were expected, but there
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was one counterclaim that threw me off. She's asking for
a DNA test. Hmmm, I mean if she was seeing
other people, who's the daddy? Yeah, that's the question. This
has really twisted me. Is she admitting that she had
been cheating on me? Is the a ploy by her
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lawyer to make things more difficult for me? I did
call her out for this and even offered to take
the test without a court order, but she played the
lawyer card. I have suspected this for a while but
never wanted to say anything. Now that it's a possibility,
I am desperate to find out immediately, but also frightened.
Frightened to know the truth. So that's where things stand. Now.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
What is this off the hook catfish picture? He could
be off the hook, but he doesn't want to be
off the hook.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Just go do it again. He wants to be He
loves his little baby girl.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He wants to be on the hook, the.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Good baby daddy. He wants to be.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I just wanted to vent, but if people are interested,
I'll update. I should note that there is a lot
more that I left out, but I wanted to be
as concise as possible. Comment one. Yet she does not
know who the baby daddy is and is hoping it
is not you so she can cut you out of
her and her daughter's life. You should have been asking
for that DNA test yourself, he says, Oh, yeah, she
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definitely doesn't know and wants me out. I did ask
my lawyer to ask for a DNA test, but for
some reason she didn't. Might have been miscommunication and my
certainty she was my child. Comment two says, don't think
that you will get a better pull out game. There's
always a chance for pregnancy with intimacy, and pulling out
is the most likely to fail method. Yeah, talk to us, Riley.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
There's the leaving it in that's most likely to fail.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
That is.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
True. Your lawyer might be confused because you initially filed
a paternity hearing to discuss visitation rights. Well, that's basically
saying you're claiming the child without a DNA test. Given
how little you two know each other, I defin recommend
not doing this again, as you might find yourself on
the hook for children of other men. What when you
communicate with your lawyer next, make sure to communicate the
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necessity of the DNA test. Opie says, I think you're
right our primary focus was on arranging visitation as to
is possible. I mentioned DNA testing, but I also assured
my Laura lawyer that I was ninety nine percent certain
she was my daughter. She must have assumed I didn't
need it. I just spoke with my attorney and the
magistrate has ordered the DNA testing on the nineteenth after
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both parties agreed to it. The hearing will be postponed
until the results are available. I'm usually cautious about spicy sleep,
but I had already had four tequila shots, five beers,
and a margarita. Whoo, that is the whole kitten kaboodle.
That is you. You drank the whole bar.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I wasn't really thinking through the pros and cons at
that moment. And there is an update. Oh god, but
we just got a lot of info we did. What
what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
My thoughts here are number one. For sure, take the
DNA test. I oh, yeah, you know. It seems it
seems like at least he feels from like seeing her,
like okay, he feels confident that it's his daughter, and
if it is indeed true, I also wonder like if
she I'm kind of wondering why does she not want
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him like to help at all. I mean I get
that she like I don't hate, but like, so she
really does not like him.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I don't know if it's an unreliable narrator or what
the case is, but like I'm like, hey, wouldn't you
want some help?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean we've read a lot of stories where like
the the mother of the child literally like leaves and
the op he doesn't or like the guy doesn't find
out for years that he has this kid. Yeah, so
maybe that's what she, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Is trying to trying to do.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Except he already knows about it. So it's big and
a little harder.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It's hard to hard to have the secret baby when
the baby isn't a secret.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's not a secret.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
But yeah, I think he should definitely go for the
DNA test and you know, essentially like go in court
and be like, hey, I want a visitation by this
baby and maybe use some of her like their their
text calls, et cetera as evidence in like, hey, she
seems to kind of like want to keep the baby
away from me, but I have in all of this evidence.
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I want to be an involved father, and I want
to be here and I want.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
To help them.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, see see what the courts decide.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Hopefully fingers crossed, But there is an up day oh
three to see what these courts decide. Well, let's get
into it. The DNA test had been done and we
are awaiting the results. In the meantime, the mother has
allowed me to see the baby twice. That's crazy, dang,
you have once. The first instance was incredibly awkward. The
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mother and I only exchanged hellos, and she walked away
and sat on the other side of the restaurant. She
just like she was like baby, And then she walked around,
like all the way across and she's just staring at you.
And the baby's like, go ahead, go with the baby.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I'm just sitting here here, you go astant. Why do
we meet in a park or something?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah? Why we had a restaurant with a baby, presumably
like a newborn.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I want to eat and we're gonna go here.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Just like eating. She's eating mac and cheese in the corner,
just staring glaring at ope, and the baby's just like,
because it's a newborn, can you even baby? Yeah? Can't
you like not bring babies around people? For like a
certain amount of time.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
They got soft heads. I would know my head got sculpted.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So they just have like like the immune systems and everything,
and they're they're they're they has this been Maybe it's
like been a couple of months. Maybe this baby's like
how old is this baby?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I feel like a few months old?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, Joss, why do you think you can't take babies out?
Isn't there like a period talking to the law.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, yeah, but like, yeah, let me let me take
my baby out to get diseased.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's not it's illegal.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I'm taking my baby.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
He is not that bad for kid.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
They get outside. I'm talking like at a restaurant. I'm
just talking about outside. You should take a baby outside.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I was like, what, you don't want to play in
dirt and something? Riley's gonna take his newborn baby to
like a music festival.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Ye like yeah, yep, they're gonna know what a little
oozyvert sounds like.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Anyway, as I sat there holding the baby, I couldn't
stop doubting that she was mine. I kept looking at
her face and didn't see any of my features. Uh oh,
I was really heartbroken. That said, I still relished my
time with Herope. He's like, I don't think this is
my baby, but it is a cute baby.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Maybe he had like baby fever initially, now he's seeing it.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
The other thing that made the whole visit awkward the
mom brought a friend, a man friend. At first, I
didn't think too much about the friend, but at one
point I looked up and saw her face and instantly
recognized her. She turned out to be a girl that
had flirted with me at my gym three weeks after
the mom and I broke up. At the time, I
could tell that this friend was interested in me, but
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I cut off contact because I realized that I had
too much going on to start pursuing girls. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Conspiracy theory. Yeah, mom planted.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
At the gym, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, But after they broke up, is weird.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
This This woman might be trying to, you know, get
something on open.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, she seems a little little little Cooper took crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah. The friend eventually left the gym, and I hadn't
seen her again until that day. No one acknowledged the situation,
but I feel it's safe to say that my ex
found out about me talking to other girls right after
we broke up. Well, I mean like three weeks. Also,
he's like, you just flirted with her at a gym?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
What about two weeks?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I guess she found out like immediately, but then it
took her that long to like plot and play and actually,
you know, get something to hit you know, Yeah, took
a little time for her to get her minions together.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
And you know, she's like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Gonna I'm gonna catch him in the act of flirting
with someone.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Was it sleep ragents or whatever?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
She sent her sleep ragents out there exactly to sleep
with them.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh too smart, can't get can't catch don guard. I
just saw the baby this morning, and the feeling was
completely different. I may be experiencing a tentional bias, but
she really did look like my daughter. Okay, oh, he's
like yesterday. I think it was the lighting here. She
looked nothing like me today. Totally different girl. She's got
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my nose.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Now we're flip flopping.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know what to believe you. I don't I
don't think you know. She has the same eye shape
and color to me, same hair color as well. I
have to admit that this has given me hope that
I am her father. You are flip flopping. We just
need this DNA test.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
We need it, We need a day SAP.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
At this point, I just have to wait for the
results to arrive. But at least I have some hope. Now.
I plan to give an update when everything clears up.
And what do you think, Oh, he's dad or not?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Honestly, best guess I'm gonna say no, going off of
the fact of the mom was the one that ordered it,
which leads me to believe that she is. I mean,
why would you order if it proves he's the father?
That hurts suitcase, if you want to keep the baby.
So I think she's like, I'm pretty positive that you're
not the father. Where you get the DNA test and
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it's gonna prove you're not and therefore you're gonna get nothing.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, Like maybe she's just like he's not even the dad,
Like why does he keep sticking around? Maybe that's her mindset. Maybe,
but there is a second update. Oh, so let's find
out what's what. No one seems to be interested, but
typing everything out is a little therapeutic. We're interested.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The results finally came back last Wednesday. Everyone get your
votes in here we go. Now, I don't think we
were pulling it.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
But hey, let's let's pull it.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Pull it before I read it baby or not? Baby
or not?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Is it his or not? I'm I think it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
What did you say?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I said?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, I'm gonna say it is his, just for sake
of debate.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Keeping it interesting, Yeah, keep it interesting.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I wonder if it is his, because one she's like,
I don't want you around.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But if it's the other baby daddy, who's going to be.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Paying, because like my thought is that the other guy's
not paying, she's gonna be like, oh, yeah, it actually
is yours.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You should pay for it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, it seems like he's like so ready to pay out.
He's like, I'm super down to be involved. I like,
I want this baby. He didn't even need the he
didn't even want the DNA test before.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
He was just like I'll be in literally and and
do we know what this mystery man is going to.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Do with the baby involvement. Maybe he just don't wants
nothing to do with the baby, and the mom is like,
that's what I want.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Also, if she's getting mad at op for flirting with
another girl, like a few weeks after they broke up
and she cheated on him with another man.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's uh, that's good.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Points.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, I don't know. I feel like it's not like
three weeks he's flirted with another girl like jail, he's
not doing anything. That said. After so many attempts to
call my lawyer, the child support office, and the court
to get the results, I kept being told that I
would have to wait for them to be delivered.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I only answers now.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I want to know my assumption. Her mother knew as
soon as Thursday. Her lawyer told her for context, she
began being friendlier after it came to light that the
baby's parentage was in question. Okay, I thought I was
gonna be like she'd being friend leer and once she knew.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So they so we're still It's like.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
We're still in the unknown because basically she became friendlier
because ope, he might be the father. O. This is torturing.
On Thursday, I sent her a follow up text from
Monday on when and where I can see her daughter
this week? I only get to see her for an
hour weekly. She blew up on me about her boundaries
and that she will tell me when and where on
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her own time. She wrote two paragraphs about her boundaries,
but one sentence updating me on our daughter. I got
to spend an hour with my daughter on Saturday morning,
and honestly I felt sadness and wondered if it was
the last time I would ever see her. Her mother,
on the other end, was pretty hostile towards me. You
made snide remarks about not being able to get her
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to stop crying after twenty seconds. Also snapped at me
for letting her fall asleep, like how could I possibly
know she wasn't supposed to sleep. She doesn't tell me
much about our daughter. Finally, here we go, after and
excruciating three days, I got the results. Here we go
Saturday night, and I am happy to say that she
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is my daughter.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Let's go give me my money. I want thanks, there's
your money.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I'm gonna put this in my pocket. You win? Ah man,
there you go? And how you can go file for
custody because she's clearly not gonna let you see your daughter?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And why I mean, I guess she did change her
tune a little bit when it was in question, So
maybe she'll change her tune even.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
More and more, I hope. So I mean, it's gonna
suck if OP has to fight in the courts for custody. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I would definitely put give all of texts.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I mean, I think you should regardless, just because you
don't want her to have the control that she has
right now. Yeah, but there's more who may have teared
up a bit with joy l Well, So at this point,
with no more questions on who the father is, I'm
gonna ask for more time with her. I don't expect
her to be agreeable, but it's worth a shot. I
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don't expect to have a parenting plan until April, so
I will have to continue to be patient, but I
will enjoy every moment that I have with my daughter.
And there is another update. Oh but yeah, I think
I think right now it's just I don't know. It
doesn't seem like OHP's going through the courts, but I
do think that you should. Definitely.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, we need to with with the history of you
and the mom's interactions. We need something locked down and
legally binding.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, apsolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Update three, There we go.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Not a ton has happened since my last update, but
I'm feeling some anger and sadness. Uh oh, hopefully typing
this out will help me process my feelings. Since my
last update, we've been doing weekly hour visits at a
local panera. Always at the restaurants, always gotta be the babies.
Can the baby even eat any of that food? And
also where was he gonna crawl in the dirty panera floor? Yeah?
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What is this baby like? You put it the baby
in like a little like chair and the baby's just
like em.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Do you need space to baby?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Baby space?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well she's a baby. She daughter, baby, daughter, baby daughter,
baby needs space to baby. That's right. You can't have
space to baby at a panera. What is this baby
supposed to eat? What do they serve a panera? Well?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, you want to put on a bread bowl?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You want to put come?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
That would be cute though.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That would be like when they put babies in pumpkins. Yes,
exactly like that, exactly like that. As much as I
love spending time with my daughter, an hour a week
at a restaurant is not enough, and it's awkward trying
to bond with her in such a public place. I
will take anything that I can at this point. Her
mother and I tend to keep things civil, if not cold.
Communication between us is kept at a minimum, we simply
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say hello and goodbye and move about our day. On
the legal side, Yes, this is what I wanted to know.
Here we go. We had our status conference two weeks ago.
Prior to the conference, I asked my ex if I
could get more time with her daughter that was not
at a restaurant. She responded that she had several concerns
with me caring for her and needed to consult her attorney.
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This set my attorney and I into a panic. My
attorney grilled me to find something that may that she
may try and use against me. She examined all of
our texts and emails and couldn't find anything that my
ex could use against me. But to relax. Honestly, I
couldn't help but think my ex would try and falsely
accuse me of something like abuse or violence. No, I
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have not been violent towards her. Heck, I've never yelled
or cost at her. I'll try to be as concise
as possible with the cliff notes of what was relayed
to me by my attorney of the conference as relaid
to me by my attorney. Her attorney started requesting that
we keep the weekly It's at Panera or somewhere similar
for one hour visits. My concern was that our daughter
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cried a couple times when I was holding her during
our visits, that I can't be trusted to be a
good caregiver to her due to this. The magistrate shot
that excuse down immediately. Wait, okay, so it seems that
it's not Ope's concern. It seems that they were saying
that their parenting concern was that every time that O
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beheld his daughter, she would cry. Yeah, which is a
stupid reason because op, he's only allowed to see her
once a week. Of course, this baby doesn't really feel
like she knows him. She's like, who the heck are
you this strange man? Who is this man who keeps
holding me up a panera?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, you're not my mama, I'm not my mom. I
come here and there's bread bowls and a strange man.
What else am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
They had me off to a man for an hour
and he just stares at me. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Hey, baby, Yeah, I love you. I'm your daddy.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
But also, even if this baby ride every time he
held her, that's what babies do.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
They just be crying, bro, That's what they cry.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
All the time. That's like they're They eat and they
sleep and they cry.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You're not a baby if you.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Don't cry, truly, honestly, it's a bad sign if you're
not crying. That's what they say. That's what they say.
I've heard that through stating that there is no possible
way to judge a parent, how a parent can care
for their child in a restaurant, and that only giving
myself an hour a week is not acceptable, literally telling
her attorney that my ex was being unreasonable. They also
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claim that I never contributed to medical bills while we
were together and accused me of being a disappearing act false.
Oh pee literally filed for UH for parental rights.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Yes, he has been trying ye falling you bro wasn't
trying to give the milk.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
He was trying to get with the baby.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
He was trying to bring milk to the baby. That's right.
We were prepared for that argument and had literal receipts.
The text messages then, Mope made it very clear that
I not only paid half of the bills while we
were together, but continue to ask for bills after we
broke up. All of the whiles she would lie and
tell me that there were no bills. The magistrate once
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again chastised her attorney again, this time for lying. Is
there no like lying fees? You know, like, aren't we
in a court of law? Don't you have to tell
the truth?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, because I think they have to give all that.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Maybe not in this civil case or whatever, but I
thought they had to give all the evidence beforehand.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
So it's like the other lawyer could read all the
texts because he can't claim like, oh, I'm just going
off what she told me, Like, well.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, well it's like, no, we got the receipts.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Bred We then made our case for me to have
more time and my ultimate goal to have my daughter
fifty to fifty. The magistrate was impressed with everything that
I had done, taking parenting classes, going to therapy, moving
closer to her mother, et cetera. That said, she only
granted me four hours on Sundays for the next month. Day.
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That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. I'm sorry, Opias from the get
go been so or trying to be so involved in
his child's life, and it's just been denied and denied
and denied.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And you know what I can, I can get like, hey,
the baby's used to this home. I'm sure there's something about, like,
you know, you take a baby to a strange environment
that like freaks them out. But this just seems so
like such little time.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's not even like I feel like most times it's like, oh,
this person gets weekends or something, you know, the four
hours on a Sunday like.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Like if anything, like why not the whole day to
help the baby like get used to them, or like
or like sprinkled throughout the week or something so the
baby kind of recognized Alice something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I'm not I'm no baby.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Experts, but but you would think one would. It isn't
what I wanted. But the silver lining is I was
given a pathway to be a fifty to fifty parent
tour and that has given me hope for the future
now to today. As of now, the court order has
not been uploaded to the docket, thus not making it
legally binding it so I still have to beg my
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ex to see my daughter. What is this? What is
this court system? This is ridiculous. I'm so angry for you, Op. Yeah,
I mean you have been doing everything, literally everything from
the start to be a good dad.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
It's so it's so clear that he wants to be involved.
He's doing that, He's sending the child support. He's like, Hey,
what bills you got? How can I pay for it?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Hey? Can I watch the baby? Like? Can I see
the baby? Can I ham with the baby? It's crystal clear,
It's crystal clear. This morning I got to see my
daughter once again out of Panera.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Dude, stop it.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Honestly, you know what the Panera should file for parenting rights.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
At this point, the baby has more recognition of the
Panera bread than her own father.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It was mostly great. She was laughing and cooing so
much eating, she was eating bread. She was so much fun.
As I was enjoying my daughter, my ex was sitting
at another table with two girlfriends, talking loudly and laughing hysterically.
I don't hold judgment, but honestly I found them all annoying. Yeah,
well they suck because they've been holding you from your daughter.
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So mind you. She was always bringing a friend during
these visits, and I come alone. It normally doesn't bother me,
but for some reason, I couldn't stand any of them.
I literally wanted to yell at them to shut up.
But bit my tongue. As the hour went along, my
daughter began to getting tired and a little cranky. I
tried to calm her down, but she began crying loudly
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and I noticed some wheezing. Oh no, I was a
little concerned and wondered if she had been sick. So
I walked up to the cackling table and asked my
ex if she was sick. She stated no, but maybe
if I walked around and bounced her she would calm down.
I simply said okay, thanks. She then asked me if
I needed anything else, and I said no and started
to walk away with a snarky tone. She snapped back
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at me that I needed to cut the attitude out
and that she was trying to help. Lady sucks. Look.
I turned around and told her that I wasn't giving
her attitude, and then I came over to simply ask
her a question because I wanted to help. Then, to
my complete shock, told me that we need to communicate
better if we're got to be good co parents. Facts.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I agree with that, and.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Then OPU go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we do need to
communicate better, but but but, but who's gonna help us
do that?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
We just gotta do that. It's so funny because communication
is a two way street. Yep. And then you go,
that's a great idea, mother of my child. Let's start
with letting me see my daughter more. Let's start with
you responding to my text and telling me what's going
on with my daughter?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Right, it's a two way street. Off the intersection of
Randolph in park Hill.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I stood there with my jaw dropped. For the last
ten months, I have repeatedly asked, no, begged, or to
meet or call to discuss we were going to co
parent together, only to be shot down each time as
she always claimed that was cropping our boundary. Needless to say,
I just gave her a are you being serious? Look,
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said I agree, and walked away. Lovely oh d. The
rest of my time with my daughter was kind of
sullied at this point, But your life will never be
sullied if you listen to full episodes of stories just
like this. Just go to Apple podcast, iHeartRadio or Spotify
and search up Okay, story time, but there is a
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little bit left of the story. Wow, do you have
any final thoughts?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I just feel for the dad man, and uh, you know,
I hope that we can, you know, get stop sullying,
stop sullying the relationship, hitting those.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Birds and doing a water landing, Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
We need to land smoothly from the air as designed
as it was intended to be. Yeah, I think keep
just keep going the course, keep collecting seats. I don't know,
like like can we like, oh, like hey, I'll record
are our like little.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Playdate, visit Panera, visit things.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I think they might have some some quandaries against recording
a baby.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but whatever whatever illegal and
ethical ways you can do to collect receipts to show
your innocence and investedness in fatherhood.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Absolutely, I mean I think, just like keep doing what
you're already doing. Yes, you are. You have been putting
in the work. You have been like saying I want
to see your daughter, I want to communicate with you.
So just like keep showing that dedication and obviously, like
it's really tough, it's super tough, and you know, it's
really draining I can imagine, but you are doing a
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great job. Don't let your the baby mama, you know,
push you out just by sheer force of will and
her exhausting you. Yeah, like fight, just keep up that fight.
Seems like you're trying to be a great dad.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, and you know what, as much as it sucks,
progress is being made. Yeah, there's a path to fifty.
To fifty has more time now, so yeah, just keep
the course.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Great advice, but there is a little bit left ooh
to this story with girl. Luckily, she had fallen asleep
as this had been going down between her mother and I.
This lasted until I handed her over to her mother.
Since then, I have been fuming over my ex gas
slighting me into thinking I've been the one not working
with art. I get it. She finally got the message
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that she needs to work with me, and the court
stone look kindly to alienation. Still, it shouldn't take a
court order to get to that point. The court order
should go into effect this week and I can finally
spend quality time with my daughter. Honestly, I cannot wait.
That's it for now. And there are some comments common one,
this is a dad determined to be a real father.
(31:57):
I'm sure many children would want him as very true. Yes,
common to great job working with a difficult situation to
see your daughter. Two quick suggestions. Use a parenting app
for communication. It keeps track of all the text messages
and can be submitted to a judge. When you're getting
your four hour Sunday afternoons, you might want to have
a neutral third party in the background during your visit
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alone with your child so that you have a witness
to your interactions in case she makes any more claims.
She did this once and luckily the judge saw through it.
But when you go to increase custody after you approve
yourself with the Sundays, you might need it. Opie says,
thanks to your points, we will be required to download
a family app once the court order is submitted. I
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have it already, but her mother is yet to download it.
I have thought about this and bought a go Pro
to record my time with her. That so, Mandy, He's
got like the headgear go pro on and the baby
also has a go pro on of course.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, baby go pro.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah. And it's just it's just hours and hours of
a bit baby in a Panera.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Dude, can we live stream please?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Baby in Panera? Live stream? Hey, it's me and my
baby back at it again doing an eat the menu
in Panera. That's right. I also have a couple of
female friends that A volunteered to hang out when I
have her alone. I don't particularly trust my ex. I
wonder why, but that is the end of that story.
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Josephine says. The baby version of the cat collar Gobra. Yeah,
when you know those videos with the cats and they're
like wandering through houses and stuff. Yeah, the baby's just
going like and it's like a of like their hands
in a bread ball. Mingming says, I can't imagine four
hours in a Panera.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I think the first red flag is going to Panera.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, and the first one through ten red flags are
going to Panera. Totally.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Also, I am I am praying that this episode is
used as evidence in courts.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh my god, that would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, that would be cool.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Be please let us know use this in course.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, we're here on your side.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, oh well, what the hell? Says So are the
four hour Sundays going to still be at a Panera? Yes?
They I think they've already said they're going to do
four hours at the Panera.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
We've got a got a change.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Unless I'm mistaken, which hopefully I am. Hopefully you can
do it in up Park. Maybe it's a park outside
the Panera. But you know, let's venture outside please manah man,
But that's the end of that story.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
But is there one more?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
There is there is one more?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Ah, why don't we get into it? Boys and girls?
John here og host. We're going to get back to
these stories, but a quick three minute break.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
From as from our sponsors.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I want to end my relationship with my pregnant partner
because I'm not the father.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Oh, that's a good reason to end it.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's a good reason, sir. Well, I know this title
sounds like I'm in a hole for wanting to end
it with us, But let me explain a bit of
my background before you pass judgment on me. I've known
this girl or should I say woman, since she's old
enough to be my mom.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Curly oh gender neutraally curly four a few years now.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
We used to work in the same department together and
we were pretty close together. By the way, this comes
from Ichigo is my homie. And if you want to
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Speaker 1 (35:20):
Opie is twenty seven and his pregnant partner is twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Female. That's not enough old?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Wait what that can't be possible.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
We're like forty, but I'd digress.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Something's wrong here.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Something's wrong, something's off, But Opie says. We talk about
life and such, but I never consider myself to be romantically.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Involved with her.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
She was just like a big sister to me. Oh
I moved into another department last year. Oh oh okay, wait.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
So is she twenty nine or is she old enough
to be your mom?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I think old enough to be this stepsister. I'm gonna
say jury's out for now. Okay, we get more information.
I moved to another department last year, but we still
kept in touch with We still kept in touch with
each other by texting. She was always in a relationship,
and so is I. Up until last year. Oh god,
I broke my relationship with a girl that I had
been together with for almost six years the day before
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my twenty seventh birthday day.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Long story.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I told her about it over a casual text message.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
How casual?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
And she told me that she also broke up with
her harmful boyfriend a couple of weeks before.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Super casually as well. So casual, Like, yeah, we broke up?
To have any thoughts about that? Oh, what do you
gotta say about that.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
She suggested that we hang out and talk about our
field relationships. Also, Kinny B said twenty nine or thirty nine.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Thirty nine? Sorry, thirty nine, thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Now we're there.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
That's a young MoMA number day, Selexia.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Wait, okay, it's thirty nine.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
It's thirty nine. It's okay, get out of my head.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It's thirty nine. Okay everyone, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Josephine sorry, hey, Justphine, give her give her Also not
old enough to be his mom? Yeah, no, I think
he's I feel like I feel like he's like speaking hyperbolica.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, he's like, Oh my god, she's so old.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I mean, technically she's.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Almost she's more than ten years older than me.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Technically it's maybe just barely possible. But that's a strong mom.
That's a young that's a biblical mom, right there, ladies
and gentlemen. Yeah, But at this point I still considered
her a good friend and never intended for the visit
to be more than just to hang out. We hung
out together in the past, snowboarding, bar hopping, et cetera.
But that was the first time I ever went to
her place. Long story short, we hooked up and had
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some spicy sleep that night. I wore a rubber Thank God,
on like the last.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Three Yeah, he's like, actually, my pully game is really good.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
So good, I don't need to, oh God.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
From then on we were regularly hooking up every other
week or so throughout the summer. I was loving the
arrangement because it was purely friends with benefits. Later on,
I heard from another coworker of mine that he was
also sleeping with her. Fun facts, So it was all
good old adult fun time for both.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Of us for the rest of life.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Sure, listen, sometimes you gotta work on those inter interpersonal
office relationships. You know.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
If it, if it floats your boat and lifts the
sail on your mast, who am I to stop you
or both of you?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
So I'm sorry?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Like it. We were getting quite close that it became
a weekly thing for us, and I was becoming more
risky during spicy sleep.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Stop not using rubbers and.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
No. Oh.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
We thought we were good, but.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I thought I was in the clear.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
We were in the clear, but I never finished inside
of her. It wasn't until around last September that she
finally told me that she was pregnant.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Wow, and here we are. We're right back here.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
We are not shocked.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Oh how it was like how it couldn't have possible.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
There's no way my calculations of calculated this never could
have happened.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I'm just too good.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Good thing you got a friend because you could put
it on them. It could. It's a coin.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Toss, it's a mommy situation. I forgot about the other
guy except we need a third manner. We need where
who's number three? Who's never need to go to Greece? Oh,
grease heir.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I was shocked. I felt like I had just been
punted in the gut. She told me that she wasn't
sure who the possible father was because she was still
sleeping with her ex boyfriend while doing me. Also, I
never brought up the fact that I knew she also
slept with the other dude from work.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
So we have our three but bom, no, that's the
second dude.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well there's ex boyfriend and.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Great, Oh I see you see since I also slept
around with a few girls during that same time period.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
But she told me that y'all.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Were sleeping around with multiple people unprotected. This is not
why what other things.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
That a child what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yep, y'all, where is our spicy education?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
This is unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Someone needs to sit you all down, listen with the
pamphlet on STDs.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Unless you grew up in Florida like me, there's no
excuse for you.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Or unless you grew up in a Catholic school with
no spicy education, just don't do it it. Just don't
even I had you know you can figure it out.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Come on, come on, we have the tools, we have
the technology. But she told me that she hoped the
child is mine. She told me she had been wanting
to have a child, but her previous husband prior to
this ex boyfriend was sterile. But she was planning to
adopt a child anyways, so she was planning to keep
the baby. She told me that she didn't expect me
to be there for the child. If I didn't want to,
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I have to throw out this conspiracy theory he was
getting with these guys.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Slowly was like, Hey, we don't need to use the protection.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I'm cool with it in.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Hopes of having baby, having bio baby baby trap, except
she knows she doesn't want to trap any wants. She
just wants the baby.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Yes, baby trapped minus the trap. Yeah, just baby, just baby,
just baby, Just.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Like you've served your purpose. Now you can leave, which
is really messed up. This is a little crazy.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
There's banks you can go to and I won't say
the first word in it, but you can go to them.
Thang it, Riley getting is taken down over here. So
we both have decent paying jobs and are financially capable
of raising a child. So I'm not worried about the
welfare of this unborn child. But I was raised to
be responsible for my actions, but not to.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Educate yourself on protecting.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
No yourself, that's correct.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
I am not responsible for my education, but I am
responsible for my actions all caps Opie says.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
I told her that if a.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Child was mine, then I also wanted to be there
for the baby and help support her. The only condition
was that I wanted a legitimate paternity test to find
out who the father was.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
And I even paid for the testing. What a gentleman,
A gentleman, what a gentleman? Oh man? Gentlemen these days
just really know how to sweep a woman off her.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
She also agreed to keep our relationship a secret from
many of our coworkers and common friends until the results
was in. Due to circumstances, we had to wait until
she was due for amino a centisism amnio amnios amosentsis.
She's like amnio amnios amnosentsis. Let me know, if I
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said that right around twenty weeks gestation, then we could
perceive with attorney paternities.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Ah. So I think it's like amniotic fluids.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah, we need like twenty weeks for the amiotic fluids
to be there to successfully.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Do What does that mean? What does a amiotic fluid?
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Do?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
You listen up here, buddy?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Okay, how many times do I have to say I
was educated in the Sunshine State?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
You spell that wrong? I yeah, it's I mean, it's
the stuff in the womb. It's the stuff that's like
it's like it's like helping the baby form.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
It helps the baby. It's it's good old baby juice.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Okay, I I I passed my driver's test by bikes.
Looking at it up on Yahoo answers. It actually don't
know what else to tell you.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Okay, baby is in the little It's like a like
when you're in a one of those sensations. Deprivation takes deprivation. Yeah,
but imagine it was like like you were in a
car accident and you were in it, and but it's
also kind of it's just like keeps you there. It's
just like I don't even know, it just keeps you safe.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I'm in the a am neotic sack with the amniotic
fluid and sounds like.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
If anyone would know this would be you. Bro, you've
been in there the long.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Just because I was a fetus for nineteen months doesn't
mean I knew it was going on.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I can't remember being a feed says.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
In another way from what I just explained, which I
think was a great metaphor, it helps protect the baby
from bumping around and stuff your brain fluids. We're learning
so much. We're learning so much today. I already knew this,
but John's learning.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Sure, you just get a download at puberty of how
the woman's body works. I don't you know how my
own body works.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
You should figure that out. Dobby says.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
I've been spending more time with her while waiting for
the amino, and I actually like it. She told me
that I've become her only amnio. Yeah, ya, waiting for
the amnio, and I actually like it. She told me
that I've become her only spicy related partner since she
found out about the pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I don't know if I buy that.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Oh, I don't know if I buy that little Mama store.
Who's a daddy?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
We still don't know.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
I think that because the other dude.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
She's like, you're my favorite of the three. I didn't
want to hell you, but you're my favorite. Don't tell
anyone else. And then she tells that to all the
guys who in now money money.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Triple child support.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Yeah, whoa, but she's getting She's getting the test before
the baby's freaking popped.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Out way before dinner.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
That's true, that's true. Yeah, soak it up all you can,
like amniotic fluid.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Sure, soak it up.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Got him so at one point, oh god, at one
point she even told me the I love you, although
I didn't say it back because she was saying in
a casual way and I also don't.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Feel that way about her. It's like, hey, I love you,
and he was like.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
She told me that I was such a better person
than her ex because I treated her with respect, et cetera,
and she wished that I could stick around. I told
her that let's take things one day at a time.
The more time I spent with her, the more I
saw that she was getting more attached to me, and
her insecurities started to show.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
I received the attorney test in the mail and I
am not the father.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Sorry, guys, what.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
So at this point does he just head out?
Speaker 4 (46:12):
He's like, hey, I mean this his his action did
not yield responsibility to be responsible.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
For, even though he was irresponsible. Even though he was irresponsible,
he's responsibility.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
He lucked out, and it's not his responsibility juncture.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
But my advice to you is to use protection.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Or you know you already get you don't have spicy sleeper,
you die.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
So as much as I enjoyed being with her, I
knew I had to end the romantic relationship.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
But you enjoyed. You were like, I don't really like her.
She's oh, she said, I love you and I and
how could I.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I don't want a relationship where I can't be open
about it to my friends and family. It is a
major taboo in my culture. I'm from Southeast Asia. To
have a pre marital child and none of my family
know about the issue.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Not taboo enough to use protection.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
She's calling it like she sees it, and she's she's
not wrong. Let me tell you that, even for Western
culture standards, being in a relationship with someone who is
pregnant with someone else's child seems to be quite unacceptable,
you know.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I mean, it just seems like you're not interested in her. Yeah,
Like just say, like, were you even in a relationship
with her while all this stuff was going on? Or
did you just stick around because you thought you might
be the father? Because that's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
And also it sounded like she he was like, oh
she stopped having other spicy sleeping partners. Yeah, that kind
of implies that they were continuing.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
She is a great person and a good friend of mine,
and I don't want to end this relationship abruptly. I
don't want the breakup to cause emotional harm to her,
especially when her hormones are out of whack from the pregnancy,
thus making her more susceptible to depression, which I know
she was on antidepressant meds.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
In the past.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
I care about her well being and the fetus, but
I can't keep stringing her along any longer and making
her grow more attached to me day by day. I
must stop her from loving me because I am so lovable.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Oh wait, no, no, read the next sentence.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
I was going to break it off with her on
Valentine's Day. Ray, that negates all the words that you
just just just know.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
We're all for communicating, you know, quickly, and like all this.
Give it twenty four more hours? Why give it twenty
four more hours?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Bro? What about Valentine's Damage? You think that was a
good day to do that?
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Why just the fifteenth?
Speaker 1 (48:40):
The fifteenth, is there, teeth is a great day? We are, Yes, honestly,
maybe thirteenth if you really need to do it.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
You know what, Yeah, yeah, but not not then fourteenth.
You know, ideally the fifteenth to be.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Deally the fifteenth because you don't want to Yeah yeah,
well no, because then you don't want to have done
stuff on the fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah, and spend money.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Well, I just meant like get her hopes up romantically
on that. That's true. That's a good point. That's these
are good point.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Just just just not the fourteenth.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Let's just do it a month before.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah, yeah, come on, let's let's speed it up. But
I couldn't bring myself to tell her. Then she made
a wonderful dinner and other things and showed me that
she loved Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Because it's freaking Valentine's date, you goose? Yeah? Oh boy.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Well, my brain's tired of thinking about this issue. I'm
going to do some laundry and hit the gym for
some cardio and hopefully clear my head about this issue.
I would appreciate insights from those who have been in
a similar situation and how you have dealt with it.
Not like this this yeah, not like this, brother, but
there is a quick edit at a number one. Thank
you for the constructive criticisms. I know it was immature
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and foolish on my part for going bare back, but
spare me your judgment two dates. I asked for your
insights on this issue, not your judgment. I'm just a human.
I make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Human. Yeah, oh this is this is what I think.
He sounds like.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yes, I'm just suing.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Okay, I made mistakes. I'm just no. I didn't know
that I couldn't break up with someone on Valentine's dade.
I thought because he was a day about love that
I could also end a relationship. I didn't know you're
not being so mean to me.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
I was gonna do it, but she made me. Sam,
I liked you, Samon.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
And she told me this. She loved me, So I
are you gonna knew it? Then? So I stay with
her for another year? Shoe me, shoe me told me
that I to wear protection.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
Okay, I will admit that this is not a fun
thing to communicate, but just my dude, come on, the
issue is bad enough for me to deal with and
I don't need your condescending judgment about not using a
Wiener wrapper.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
Don't comment.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
If you're just gonna judge me for my past too late,
I don't worry.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I'm also judging you for your president.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Ah got him.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
I will plan a meeting with her sometime this week
to sit down and have the talk with it. An
update will depend on how things go in the next
couple of weeks, and ladies and.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Gentlemen jump in. We have an updates.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Let's jump in.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
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Speaker 3 (51:13):
First, it didn't go well, chuck so much shock.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
It didn't go as well as I would have liked to.
I've been busy working last the last week and was
only able to squeeze in one night to talk to her.
I had it all playing down of my head while
driving up to her place. I was going to casually
take her out to eat, so much casualness, and so
I could tell her about it outside her own home.
Later on, a female coworker told me, that's a crappy
move or break.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I'm sorry you made her do that in public.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Yeah, that's not smart. So in my head I didn't
want her home to remind her of the breakup, so
I took her out to eat it.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Probably took her to a Panara so baneras where all
dreams go to die. He did on the fifteenth, Yeah,
and bought her a box of chocolate bread bowl. He's like,
I'm breaking up with you, yeah, but here's bread bowl. Enjoy.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
We went to this crappy looking Mexican food restaurant with
great reviews on Yell.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
This guy. This guy is interesting.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
The food was amazing, but she was feeling nauseated, most
likely to pregnancy related symptoms.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Dude like.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Did you ask her what she like?
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Did you at least ask her if she had a
place she wanted to go to or if she had
any you know, pincer.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
And shows like the most like scent, yeah, you know,
heavy food, and was like, yeah, this will be fine
for a pregnant woman who's nauseous.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
I went to this spicy grease pit and it was awesome,
but she kind of hated it.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
And was throwing up and stuff.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
Oh lord, we just went on like usual during a dinner.
I didn't want to break up while she was feeling sick,
so we just got back to her place and I
ended up staying the night at her place.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
My brother and christ what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (52:58):
We got hungry around three am, and she suggested going
to Denny's for an early breakfast before going back to sleep.
She works the night shift and I work in the afternoon. Wow,
mind shift, And she was feeling a lot better. So
I was going to break the news at Denny's.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
It is the fifteenth, guys, Guys, he was gonna break
the news at Denny's at three am on.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
The fifteenth, getting early start. Actually, I think it's the sixteenth.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, it's been a day.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Yeah, it's been a day, okay, even better.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
But I was gonna break it the news at Denny's,
but I couldn't bring myself to do it, so we
went back get it.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Marry this woman?
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Oh right, he's just like I.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Couldn't bring myself to say no, so I married her.
I've happily raised this child for thirteen years. Here we are.
I'm daddy, but I'm not daddy.
Speaker 4 (53:46):
So we went back to her place again after Denny's
and we both went to sleep the non spicy kind.
I left her place in the afternoon to go to work,
and when I got to work, I received a text
from her saying thank you for spending time with me
last night. She also asked me if I could meet
up with her for a late lunch special. My shift
usually ended around her lunchtime. In the past, we used
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to hook up like rabbits on her lunch break in.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
My wagons stabbing.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
I replied to her by saying, I would like to
do a late lunch special, but I think we need
to talk about us. She knew it then and there
that what the talk was all about, and texted me
that she was upset and would rather have had this
talk at her place last night. I apologized if I
made her upset right before going to work up, but
I told her I had to be honest with her
and myself. I told her that if I could just
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wait until after the weekend to discuss this matter, since.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
We would be both working all weekend long.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
Ah man, I don't know, dude. I think the cat
is out of a bag. But we'll see what you do.
Fast forward to tonight, I text her again and ask
her how she's doing. She said she's doing okay. We
then started discussing the text from last week. She was
still upset about it. She wished it could have happened
in person. She told me she had so many things
to say to me, and none of it was bad
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or mean. He just wanted to close this chapter with
me by saying all the nice things about me. But
the text from last week left her with a sour
note and she couldn't say those nice things anymore. She
said she enjoyed my companionship and that she didn't expect
anything from me since she found out about the pregnancy.
Then she told me that we should go snowboarding next year.
So I told her that I enjoyed the companionship and
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agreed on the future snowboarding plan. Okay, I told her
I wished her and the baby the best and asked
her to say hi to her dog for me. I'm
really going to miss that fluffy, cuddly guy.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
She said that she would.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
And ended the reply with a smiley face. I'm relieved
that it's over, but also feel bummed out for several reasons. First,
I really really love.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Her dog dog. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
Okay, I don't love her.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
I gonna miss her dog.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
But I love her dog man, good old Fluffy. He
was a good boy.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
What can I say?
Speaker 3 (55:54):
And you dropped that joke.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
I've always wanted my own dog, but my current life
arrangements make it difficult for me to have one. Second
text messages don't convey any form of emotion and feeling
unless it's explicitly stated in the message. I'm not sure
if she's really okay or just saying that because it
already happened. By the way, if you're not okay, well boy,
oh boy, do I have a solution for you, and
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I promise you. Reason number three. This so called relationship
slash companionship was the most civilized and peaceful relationship I've
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ever had my previous relationships before this one lasted six years.
I was emotionally taxing and ended on very bad terms.
I learned a lot from it and think that's one
of the reasons why this last one seems so much smoother.
Until the breakup via text message, we never had a
real argument or fight. As good as it sounds, the
relationship felt quite superficial for me, and that's another reason
why I felt quite relieved with this breakup. I'll add
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this experience to my book of life and use it
as my life lesson to become a better person when
it comes to relationships and wrapping it before I hit
it no matter what.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
That is correct.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
Yeah, although the idea of a sectomy, it doesn't sound
too bad.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Honestly, Maybe that's yeah, Maybe that's the solution for you.
Might be the move, my friend.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
Wow, that's it.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
Michelle G. Thank for the five Bucks. Still, how is
thirty nine to be his mom? He's twenty seven?
Speaker 3 (57:26):
He did, he was like Bob because of it's clearly.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Not the sharpest tool in the chat.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
No, he's not the fastest shoe brew in the garage.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
He's uh yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 3 (57:37):
No a w or x more of an outback.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
That is the end of this story. That's right.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
M hmm.
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