PARIS HILTON: The REAL Story Beyond the Headlines, Fame, Misconceptions, and The Journey to FINALLY Reclaim Her Narrative

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was one of the most painful experiences to go through,
to trust someone so much and then to be violated
like that and have the entire world watching, laughing talking
about it, villainizing me.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. I'm so excited
to have one of my favorite guests back in the seat,
one of your favorite guests back on the podcast. I'm
speaking about the one the only, Paris Hilton, global entrepreneur, artist,
and cultural icon whose new documentary, Infinite Icon that I
got to watch reveals the truth behind her evolution and

(00:41):
the woman the world hasn't fully seen. Today, Paris joins
us to talk about her identity, healing, and the purpose
driving this next chapter of our life. I promise you
you won't want to miss the documentary, Infinite Icon. Go
and check it out right after you watch this interview.
Please welcome back Paris Hilton. Paris is so great to
have you back.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm so happy to be here and thank you for
the amazing intro.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I always say that my favorite guests keep coming back.
I love having guests back on the show because I
feel I get to deepen my relationship with you. The
audience gets to deepen their relationship with you, and it
really shows me just how much wonderful trust and connection
we built last time. And of course I've had the
fortune of spending time with you and Carter and he's
just I can only say amazing things about him. He's

(01:25):
so special. And just your family and the beautiful events
you do and how you bring people together. I just
want to thank you for including us in part of
all of that and making us feel so at home.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh my pleasure. I always love seeing you and your wife.
You both are just such kind and inspiring and incredible people,
and I feel the same way about you. So I'm
just so happy to be here again.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Thank you, Baris Well. I want to dive right in
the first question I want to ask you, is the
last time you on the show was around two and
a half years ago. What's different about the Paris Hilton
sitting in front of me today versus the one that
I met two and a half years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Wow, It's like I feel like I've just grown so
much and it feels like a lifetime ago, even though
it was only two and a half years. So much
has happened. I'm now a mother of two, I just
moved into my new home. I have just been on
this whole discovery journey and now with my new documentary,

(02:21):
it's just had a lot of time to reflect on
my life as well and been through so much. And yeah,
I'm just really proud of the woman I am today.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Last time you came on, we were talking about your memoir.
Today we're talking about your documentary. I felt the memoir
was such a cathartic emotional experience writing it, sharing it.
When I watched the documentary, it feels like this was
the same. It felt like it was the music is therapy,
the journey's healing. You really see your growth in it.

(02:54):
What was different about writing a memoir and then making
this documentary and capturing all of this build up to
the incredible performances and development of music.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I feel like this is like a trilogy, like my
healing experience, Like first through my documentary This is Paris,
then the second part through my memoir, and now with
this third part with this music documentary and really just
going into my journey through life but seeing it through

(03:26):
the lens of music and just how healing music has
been to me and how I really believe that music
is something that saved my life, just going through so
much in my life and through so much trauma and pain,
and I always remember the one thing that would always
make me so happy was music. So I really wanted

(03:47):
to just dive back into that more and also just
revisiting a dream of mine because since I was a
little girl, I've always loved music, and then releasing my
first album in the two thousand sense, and I just
feel like I was just so underestimated back then, and
now I really feel like I'm taking back my power

(04:09):
and my voice and showing people a side of me
they'd never seen before.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Did you get your Spotify wrapped age this morning? Did
you see that? So Spotify rapped?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
All of my fans have been posting there. I haven't
looked at it, so I looked at.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
So what it does is it has this algorithm that
looks at all the songs you listen to, and then
it gives you your age as to how old you
are based on whether you listen to music in the sixties, seventies, eighties,
and nighties or whatever it was. I was. I was
exactly my age, which which says a lot. But then
a lot of my team are like double their age.
The music that you grew up to, or the music
that made you feel peaceful at home that saved your life.

(04:48):
As you just said, what was that music when you
first started listening and learning about music versus when you
started creating? What was the music that gave you that
sense of home?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Dance music, just being at like raves and music festivals,
and also artists like Madonna. She's always been such an
inspiration to me, like Britney songs. To this day, I'm
like obsessed with all of her music. It just makes
me so happy and just anything that brings me like
happiness and joy and that energy, and just listening to

(05:21):
certain lyrics of songs and just really being touched by them.
So I feel like music is something that's so powerful,
like where you can just hear a lyric and it
could change your mood in an instant or even change
your life.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I could agree more I was. I grew up on
a lot of rap and hip hop music was what
I primarily listened to, and I can still remember lyrics
that feel like they transform my life. And it sounds
so crazy to say it, but when you felt it,
you know how much that lyric motivated you or made
you feel seen Or was there a lyric that you've
written or that you've heard that you feel does that

(05:55):
for you that makes you feel seen heard and makes
other people feel that way? What would you pick them?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Intrigued From my new album Infinite Icon, my song Adhd
that iro Asia because it's just a personal song. And
when I was talking with her when we were writing,
I was like, I want to write a song about
ADHD and she's like, I've never heard a pop star
do that before. I'm like, do you think that's like

(06:22):
weird for the album? She's like, no, I love it,
Like I think that's incredible, and we started writing it
together and it's just been a song where when I
released it, I've had so many parents come up to
me talking about their children, just saying that, you know,
having ADHD is something that they were ashamed of, but
ever since they've been listening to my song like they

(06:44):
it's now their anthem and they feel like it's their
superpower too. So just to be able to help people
and transform their lives through music is such a powerful thing,
and I'm just very proud of that song and this album.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, I wanted to talk about ADHD. If course that's
one of the big things that comes out in the
documentary with you talking about your experience with it. When
was it that you first discovered or started to experience it,
And was it uncomfortable in the beginning before you understood
what it was.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, because I was a teenager in school and nobody
was really talking about ADHD back then. It wasn't, you know,
something that people would really discuss, and it just had
such a negative connotation behind it where people were almost
ashamed of it. So I was just, you know, always
in school and no matter how hard I would study
or try, I would constantly just not be able to

(07:37):
remember things in school, be losing my homework, failing tests,
and I just was just always just getting in trouble
in school, just I couldn't concentrate or focus. And it's
just because the systems are not built for minds like ours,
and I just didn't know what was wrong. I was
like always like, what's wrong with me? Why can't I
get this right? And it was just really hard on

(08:00):
my mental health. And it wasn't till you know, in
the past years since my documentary, when I started talking
to doctor Hollowell, who's my ADHD doctor, and he just
taught me so much about it, and then I just
started researching and finding out even more. So now I
completely understand just it's how my brain works, and now

(08:22):
I see it as my superpower. Like I know, I
would not be the woman I am today or the
entrepreneur without it, because it just gives me such drive
and curiosity and creativity and having a million ideas all
the time and just my brain just never stops. And
now I've learned to harness it, and I just want

(08:43):
to spread that message to others, especially you know, young
girls and boys who are going through it, to know
that this is something that is actually a good thing
and you can be successful in life. And some of
the most creative people I know and brilliant geniuses all
have ADHD as well. So I like to feel to

(09:03):
spread that message because I wish when I was growing up,
I had someone like that to look up to to
tell me that, so I would have learned about it
sooner instead of, you know, because it is difficult, Like
there's this thing called RSD, which is like rejection sensitivity dysphoria,
where we're extremely sensitive and anything that seems even slightly negative,

(09:24):
like we will feel physical pain from it, and it's
it's it's exhausting and it's painful and it's very difficult
to go through. And I just wish back then I
knew about this because I feel like I would have,
you know, not suffered through so much pain, because I
would have known that it wasn't true. It's just you know,

(09:45):
just how our brains work.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, I don't have ADHD, but when I was young,
I would have these hot palpitations that feel tight chested.
My Mum would take me to the doctor that'd run
some tests and they'd just be like, oh, it's nothing,
and like now you'd call it in or you'd call
it a panic attack, or you'd call it, you know,
high stress. And it's it's so fascinating to me that
when we were young, or I'm still young, but when

(10:09):
when we were younger, there was no conversation about this
at all, especially not in the mainstream. And so I
love that you're making a song about it and giving
people an anthem, because all of a sudden, it's not
just people are talking about it, and the way you're
talking about it, it's not just coping and it's not
just managing. You're actually saying it's my superpower. Talk to
me about how ADHD is your superpower, because you're not

(10:31):
just saying I've figured out how to deal with it,
and i figured out how to manage it, and I've figured
out how to cope with it. You're saying, this is
actually what makes me a great entrepreneur and a great creator.
Talk to me about that connection.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
It just really gives me that drive and also taking risks,
doing things first. Just constantly, my brain is just always moving, thinking, creating,
coming up with different ideas and doing things first and

(11:04):
just just thinking outside of the box. I feel like
that's why I've always been such a multi hyphen it
because I have so many ideas, I have so many
different interests, and I do what I want. And another
one of my favorite parts of ADHD is hyper focus.
Where you know people always think, oh, they can't focus.

(11:26):
We can. We just don't focus on things that are boring.
But when we're interested in something, we can laser focus
like no other and go into this flow where it's
like on another level, and that's where the magic happens.
So I really encourage people with ADHD to lean into
the things that light them up, because you never know

(11:49):
it's possible, and I think that I'm proof of that.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
That's such a great message. You're like the original multiphon
that I feel.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I love that you said twice there you were like
doing things first, that's really important to you. Yeah, how
have you always had the courage to do things first?
Because doing something first means no one's done it before,
no one knows what it's going to be. Like, why
is that? How have you always found a way to
do that when most people would say that's the scariest
thing to do.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Just feel like, I never wanted to be in one lane.
I wanted to create my own lane. And I just
have always been someone who just loves to do things
and take risks and do things before anyone else maybe
even thinks about them. And that's why I feel like
so much my career I've been so ahead of my
time because I've been doing so many things even before

(12:40):
the world would even understand what they are. And now,
like some of the things that I did back then
have turned into multi billion dollar industries. You know, billions
of people are doing as well. So that also makes
me proud to be able to do that. And then
also you know, open the lanes for other people to
be able to do it for themselves as well, because

(13:00):
maybe people are too scared to do something, but they're like, oh,
she did it, maybe I can do it too. And
I think that's pretty cool that you can inspire others
to just go for it. In life, you only live once,
and I think you should just make the most out
of it.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
What was your favorite first thing you ever did?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Just everything I did growing up with like fashion and
just like really taking risks with that and now to
see just so many of the things I was wearing
back when I was like a teenager even today just
are like all o our mood boards all over the runway.
So it's really cool to be able to do that.
And then with a simple life, you know, that was
the first reality show, and so many people told me,

(13:41):
you know, my parents, my agents, everyone was like, I
don't know, this is not a good idea, Like they
didn't really you know, understand what it was. But I
knew there was something special about it, and I just
went for it and did it. And now that's turned
into a whole industry as well.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
So yeah, it's pretty insane.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
It's a pretty insane. I think you living your dream
and what excited you turned into industries that We're not
talking about trends or fads or moments. We're talking about industries,
which is which is quite remarkable when you pause to
think about that. How often how often do you sit
there and think about just the impact that that's had.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I think about it a lot, just because so many
people are always coming up to me, whether I'm like
walking on the street or at an event and just
saying like you're the og, Like you're the reason I
do what I do, Like you've inspired me my whole life,
and just that means a lot to me hearing that
from people and and just getting the credit that I deserve.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
When do you find ADHD to be the most challenging.
We've talked about it where it's the best and it's
a superpower. Where is it difficult and actually something that
dehabilitates people sometimes and acts as a moment of pushback.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, there's there's so many difficult parts about it from
a lot of people just not understanding it. And in
schools because schools were not these systems were not built
for brains like ours, So just constantly, you know, teachers
and people just punishing you for something that you can't control.

(15:17):
And like I said before, with the RSD, that is
just such a painful experience to go through. And we
feel things so deeply and so big, Like every single
emotion is like times ten. So like going through heartbreak
or a breakup or anything like that is just so painful.
Or even if someone's you know, you think someone's being

(15:39):
mean or talking about you, like you just always in
the back of your mind sometimes like have this voice
it's like saying negative self talk. And especially for me
growing up, you know, in the two thousands, they were
just the media was so cruel to young women, and
you know, it was like abuse and you know that

(16:01):
was like entertainment back in the day for people. So
to go through all of that with the ADHD was
even more difficult. So I think that, yeah, we're just
very sensitive people. And I think that's also why I
have so much empathy for others, because I just know
how it feels to be hurt and misunderstood and underestimated.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, you see in the documentary you talk about how
you said the media, you know, painted young women. You say,
media was so cruel and vicious to girls. Yeah, and
you see it right in the documentary. We see the headlines,
we see the kind of stories that they create. And
you just said, you're a very sensitive person. What was
the story that you feel most hurt you at the

(16:46):
time that now you see always I had ADHD and
I would have focused hyper focused on that. But what
was the story or a rumor that you felt most
hurt you.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't know, it was just there were so many.
I think it was just like constantly people just making
up lies or you know, if I would just be
at a party or someone would come up to me
and like one paparazzi would take a picture, like the
next day they're like, oh, she's hooking up with this person,
and was like I literally just met this person and
like said hi, and just that would cause problems in

(17:18):
my relationships and fights. So it was just like the
media was constantly making up stories, trying to pit women
against each other. They were always wanting, you know, all
of the girls to like just be making up rumors
to sell tabloids. So it was just every day just
dealing with just I don't know, just like annoying rumors

(17:40):
that are going around, but on you know, a global scale,
all around the world. And I've always been like sensitive
with my family because I had just I don't know,
I care a lot when my parents think so I
would just I don't know. It would just be hard
to how they would constantly make up stories just like oh,
she was here this night, or she did this. But

(18:01):
thank god my mom and dad know the real me,
so they know the truth. But still it's just it's
hard to go through that on just like such a
huge scale, when the whole world is watching you and
talking about you. So that was difficult to go through
back then a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I always like to put it in perspective when you're listening,
because you know, I didn't come and grow up in
this world, and I've got closer to this world is
my career has moved forward. And when I was far
away from it, I probably believed everything was published to
be true. And now as I've got closer to it,
I realized how nine to han percent of what's published

(18:38):
is not true. And so I've been able to see
it from both sides. And I always try and say
to people, I'm like, when you see that, it can
sound very easy to be like, oh, but you're rich
and famous, and successful like this shouldn't bother you, But
the reality is that it does bother you because we
are all bothered by what people think about us. And
we know what it feels like when you walk into

(18:58):
a party with twenty of your friends and fifteen of
them have a rumor. Now maximize that across the world
and amplified that across media. It's extremely difficult to hear
that everyone believes your x yo z when you're something else.
It's great to hear that your parents actually didn't fall
for that, like they didn't buy into it. They were

(19:19):
there as your rock. Was that? How important was that?
How meaningful was that?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
So important? Having a family that loves and supports you
is extremely important. And growing up in this town my
whole life, I've seen so much and I've seen a
lot of people who don't have, you know, that support
from their families.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And did you see different pathways happen to them like
you can. So you've been able to consistently reinvent, build,
grow your career, achieve more and more stuff. What did
you see the peers who didn't have that support at
home or that mindset.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Because very difficult for them, very lonely and not knowing
who to trust, not even some people not even being
able to trust their own family. And a lot of
these you know, kids growing up were the breadwinners for
their family, so that dynamic in itself, and then not
having i don't know, just like those family values instilled

(20:14):
in them as well. So I saw a lot. I've
seen a lot of people come and go from this town. Like,
let's put it that way. I think it's hard to
go through this and you know, experience this industry, this
lifestyle and not have that support, and a lot of
these people just spiral and some of them are not

(20:35):
even here with us anymore because of that. So it's
it's very sad, Like I feel very grateful to have
such amazing parents who love me so much and who
support me, and we're so close, and you know, not
everybody has that.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
It must be painful to look back because you now
have the wisdom to be able to help, but obviously
at that age you didn't, and so you just had
to take care of yourself. And I'm sure if you
could go and reach out to those people at that time,
at that age, it would have helped them, but they
didn't really have that support and it's yeah, it's painful

(21:13):
to watch. I mean, you go on to say in
the documentary that the release of the sex tape was
the most painful and violating experience of your life. And
I think what's really powerful. I said this to you
offline as we were talking outside when we're taking pictures,
that it's really amazing when I was watching the documentary
to what you reflect on a moment that we all remember,

(21:38):
but seeing you reflect on it not emotionally in your healing,
because it feels like, at least to me, that you've
done so much work on yourself that the healing is there,
but now you're able to look at it at a
moment in time as to how damaging it was for
you as a young woman, for potentially taking away your
music career, for the impact I had on your self esteem.

(21:58):
Talk to me about how you felt at that time
and how your healing has looked to even recover from
something like that.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
That was.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
You know, I've been through a lot in my life,
but that was, you know, one of the most painful
experiences to go through, to trust someone so much and
then to be violated like that and have the entire
world watching laughing talking about it, like villainizing me. I was,

(22:29):
you know, nineteen when this was filmed. I was a child,
and I was in love and trusted someone and you know,
did something I thought that no one would ever see,
and then had the whole world, you know, judging me
for something and just you know watching like going back

(22:52):
and doing this documentary and reliving that and thinking about
it even it's just like this young girl and then
there's all these adults like basically sexualizing and and you
know verbally mentally like abusing me and wouldn't happen today,

(23:13):
Like I look at you know, thinking about it like
that today, like he would be like in jail, like
that would it would not fly? And I don't know,
I think I also think about it too, and like,
you know, maybe I had to go through certain things
in life so it wouldn't happen to others because today

(23:33):
it would be a completely different story. But yeah, it
was just I feel like that's something that people, if
they don't know my story now, like that they would
judge me for the rest of my life for it.
And you know, growing up, I always like looked up
to people like Princess Diana and Grace Kelly, all these amazing,

(23:56):
elegant women, and I feel like when he did that
to me, it took that away from me, Like people
would never look at me in that way because of it,
and that is something that will probably haunt me for
the rest of my life. And it just makes me
so sad for that girl who had to go through
that and just feel so alone and just so sad,

(24:19):
like I just didn't even want to ever see any
one again after that happened. I was like hiding in
my house. I canceled the whole press store for The
Simple Life because that was literally about to come out
like a few days later, and uh, yeah, something. I
don't know if I'll ever fully heal from that, really,

(24:40):
I don't know. I don't think I will. But I
hope by telling my story that I can help others
from not having that happen to them and also having
it be illegal and now there's so many laws against it,
and there was nothing to protect me back then for it,
but today women are more protected in that sense. There's
still more work to do, and that's something also that

(25:02):
I want to use my voice for and fight because
it's not right for anyone to go through something like that.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Was that the reason you've revisited in the documentary? What
was your reason for wanting to revisit such a horrific, terrible,
tragic and heartbreaking time? Why did you do it?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Just to let others know they're not alone? I've seen
it happened so many other women, had so many people
girls reach out to me on social media. Girls, boys.
So many people go through that, you know, where an
ex will go and do something like that to them
and put it online and then it's something that ruins

(25:40):
their lives as well. And so many people have been
through it. So I want people to know that they're
not alone and that's not their shame. They shouldn't be
a shame for something that someone did to them. And Yeah,
I think it's important for people to be able to
think about it that way because I feel that that
shouldn't define and who you are, because that's not who

(26:01):
you are. That's what somebody did to you. And that's
been a really empowering thing for me to feel to
let go of that shame because it's something I should
never have held onto.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah. So it's so interesting, isn't it Where someone hurts
you and takes advantage of you and exploits you. But
then you're the one who's left with the shame and guilt.
And then you carry that around and now everyone you
see you're reflecting back that shame and guilt, and like
you said, the media makes a storm out of it
to get attention off of it and makes it worse.

(26:35):
I can't imagine what you went through at that time.
I can't even begin to fathom, especially as a nineteen
year old like to go through that. And I'm glad
that things are changing, but I still worry that the
media finds a way to target women. Like you said,
I'm sure you have famous women to reach out to

(26:56):
you all the time as to how they feel targeted
in the media today to talk. Do you get people
reaching out and saying, Paris, how do you deal with this?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, a lot of people reached out to me and
just like how did you survive like all this? Like
you're so strong, You've been through so much, And they'll
be like, I'm going through something similar right now, like
and I don't know what to do, And a lot
of people even said like I want like take my
own life, like I don't want to live anymore. And
I just you know, I just try to make people

(27:26):
feel strong and know that they'll this is something that
will pass and they'll get over it, and just to
take back their power in some way. But yeah, I
think it's just the shame is something that is just
so hard to hold on too. So I think that's
important for people try to try to heal from that
and to let go from it. But you know, it's

(27:46):
something that still happens today and it makes me so sad.
And now, you know, with all these platforms and you know,
the iPhones and all, it's just like the hidden camera.
There's just so many things that are happening, and it
just people need to stop, and people need to be
held accountable for it, so they don't think that they
can just get away with it.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
What was that twelve month period after the tape release
like for you? Like, what did life look like? You
said you put off the press tool for a simple life.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I just for several months did not leave my house.
I just didn't want to see anyone. I don't want
to talk to anyone. I canceled everything. I didn't want
to speak about it. I just wanted to ignore it
and just pretend like it never happened, so I would
just like not even have to think about it. People
just kept saying like Paris, like we need you here,

(28:52):
like your show just came out. And then SNL called
and they asked me to come on, and Jimmy Fallon
had this really funny script that they wanted me to do,
and I was really nervous to do it, but I
love Jimmy. He's always been so kind and so lovely
and just a really amazing person. So I went and

(29:13):
did it, and I feel like that made me feel
a little bit better, like I was almost taking my
power back and away, and I don't know, it just
like was like a turning point for me. Where after
that then I felt more comfortable. And then, you know,
it was always difficult and horror, but I knew that
I needed to be strong, and I knew that I

(29:35):
needed to just go on with my life. But it's
something that will always be in the back of my mind.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, that moment in the documentary, which that clip of
you on SNL, it feels like that was the moment
where you leaned into the narrative, owning it, claiming it
in your own way. Redefining it and that sounds like
such a that's so counterintuitive, but for you, it was
marketing genius but also healing. It's like it's almost it's

(30:07):
so it's such a hard moment because it's like there's
so much pain internally, but then you have work and
a life and you're trying to get it back. And
so talk to me about what reclaiming your narrative meant
to you in that moment and what you went on
to do that felt empowering internally and externally because I
think we see externally how it made sense as a brand,

(30:29):
but you're a human and as I'm sitting in front
of you now and I'm hearing you speak, I'm like,
oh no, this is this is not over for Paris.
It never was, even though the ads and everything took
off and everything changed. What was that internal journey after
that that was happening while the external brand was being reclaimed.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I think in my mind I just felt like, I
don't know, the whole world had this kind of like
what they thought of Miss Persona, and I was already
creating a care turn away because of all the other
trauma I had been through as.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
A teenagers last time.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, So that was like almost like my armor, like
this caricature where I was like, this will keep me strong.
And you know, they're not actually laughing at me, They're
laughing at this character that I purposely am doing. So
I don't know, I was kind of just like leaning
into it, like oh, you think this about me, all right,
Well I'm going to take it to the next level

(31:26):
and I'm going to build an entire like brand around
an empire. And I don't know, I just felt like
always that character, you know, kind of like that dumb
blonde persona just kind of just was like shielding me
from everything else. And also because I had so much
you know, internalized pain and trauma I had been through

(31:47):
that I was not ready to discuss back then because
I just didn't even have the time to reflect on it.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Because I was young.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I was like a million things were happening, and you know,
people were not even talking about mental health or or
any of that. You know. I think up until like
five years ago, it feels like like literally, yeah, so
there was no room to even do that because nobody
if you even said the word mental health back then,
people wouldn't even know what they would be like what

(32:15):
like a mental hospital, Like they wouldn't even understand what
that meant. So it was just like a timing was
not even right to be able to be serious or
talk about or reflect in that way. And I was
so young and I wouldn't even have known how to
put anything into words. So I kind of just I
don't know, I think everything is Also, my careers just
always happened so authentically. We're just like I just kind

(32:37):
of like lean into things and just have fun with it.
And with the ADHD, I have like this kind of
almost like silly fun side, and then with a simple
life show as well. It's just like kind of all
turned into this thing. And then I just was like
okay and started getting offered all these deals and my
new perfume and just you know, getting paid a million

(33:00):
dollars to show up at a party. I was like, okay,
like let's do this. So I kind of was just
like going with the flow and with life. And also
it was more I think easier for me just to
like laugh through the pain than actually feel the pain.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, it kind of been easy. That people were saying,
you put the tape out on Papasida.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
That was the thing that was the most painful for
me as well, for people to believe that, because you know,
something that's the most personal thing that you would never
want anyone to see, and then people thinking you did
it on purpose, that was something that really upset me.
And then seeing other people come out after and purposely
do it, which then people are like, oh, well everyone

(33:45):
purposely does and was like, no, like, that is not
why I wanted the world to know me like I'm
people don't know. I'm actually like a very like, extremely
painfully shy person and I've always been very like shy.
So yeah, that was something that always upset me. And

(34:05):
then seeing other people do it purposely, that was another
thing where I was like, this is I don't know.
I just think it's sad of people would purposely do
something like that.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Thank you so much for being so open and vulnerable
about it, because yeah, it's just when you talk about
it in the documentary too, and it's so interesting how
your recovery from this moment is it's brave. But what
you just said now is actually it's me laughing through
something that I wasn't ready to confront. And it's interesting

(34:41):
because when you look at it It's a brilliant case
study in marketing from a business standpoint of someone leaning
into a narrative, But then there's a human healing component
that we just forget about. That we forget that someone's
still having to go through this, someone still having to
heal through this. What was the most important part of
your healing journey? Like when did you confront in what helped?

(35:03):
Like what really worked to recover from something dis traumatic?
And I appreciate that you said you haven't fully you
maybe never fully hear, which is completely fair. But what
has helped you even be confident to sit here right
now and speak about it with so much composure, which
I can't believe is easy.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
It's definitely been in a journey, you know. The beginning,
I didn't want to even speak about it at all
because it was just too difficult to talk about and
just the most humiliating, you know, thing to go through.
But now seeing so many other people who went through

(35:42):
it as well, it gives me the strength to be
able to talk about it for them as well. And
now being a mother with a daughter, it makes me
feel extremely protective of her and of other women and girls.
But I don't want anyone to ever feel that pain.

(36:05):
So I feel like by me talking about it, maybe
it will help others not make that same mistake to
not trust someone in that way, because unfortunately, you know,
it's not It's very rare to find someone you can
trust like I've I'm so lucky now I have such
an amazing husband who I trusted my life and who

(36:26):
had never hurt me and loves me to the moon
and back and is obsessed with me. But you know,
I don't even think I would have been like ready
for this type of love at my point, at this
point in my life if I had not healed the
way I have. Yeah, I've been through a lot in
my life, and I'm proud of how strong I am

(36:48):
and resilient and you know, no matter what happens to
me in life, it just makes me stronger every single time.
And it's Yeah, I'm really really proud of who I
am today.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
You shouldn't be spend a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
You definitely should be. I mean, after reading your memoir
and speaking to your last time about everything that happened
in your teenagers and now talking about this, I'm like,
you should definitely be so proud, and I'm so happy
as well that you've been able to find a partner
that respects you and has an amazing you know, as
I said earlier, I love Carr. I think he's awesome.
He's just such great energy and he definitely adores you

(37:23):
in the most beautiful special way. And for you both
to have that now and to have a beautiful family together,
I think it also is inspiring to other people to go, Wow,
you can go through that and by the healing still
be with someone who does that. Do you feel Cart
was the first person to truly see and understand you,
like to see you truly.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
This was the first time that I've shown myself truly wow.
Like we started dating in twenty nineteen. That was right
before the documentary came out, so I had just finished
filming it, and you know, I wasn't even looking for
a relationship or anything. I was like, you know, after
what I've been through in life, I'm just gonna be
single forever. Like I don't need anyone. I can have

(38:06):
children on my own, I can support myself. And I
just was had. I had such a wall around my
heart that I didn't think I'd ever let anyone in.
And you know, when I met him that day on
Thanksgiving in the Hamptons. I just like saw something like

(38:26):
in his smile, like just the way I could see
in his eyes, like he was a kind person. And
I'm so happy that I gave him the chance and like,
you know, let down the walls a little bit from
my heart. And it's just been life changing and to
have such an amazing close relationship with someone. And I
think before just I was not ready for that because

(38:48):
of what I'd been through in my life, especially with men,
that it made me not trust anyone. But I feel
like everything happens for a reason and timing is everything.
And I'm so grateful that I did the documentary because
it really made it possible for me to now have
this amazing family and my beautiful babies, and yeah, just

(39:11):
this incredible life that I just feel so grateful for.
Every single day.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
We see we get to see the babies in the documentary,
you know, it's so beautiful seeing you with them and
as a mother. What's been your favorite part about becoming
a mother?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Just everything, like I did not know like love like
this could exist, and they just bring me so much
happiness and every morning just seeing their big smiles and
just how excited they are and just seeing all these
just like special moments and the holidays and the excitement

(39:48):
and going to Disneyland and just it feels like being
a kid again with them, and just I'm just like
so obsessed, so in love. They're like my two best friends,
and we everything together and travel the world together. And
they're so smart or so sweet, so kind loving, they're

(40:10):
so cute together. They're best friends. And just he's obsessed
with her. She looks up to him so much, and
it's just so cute just to see their relationship. And
they look exactly like me as well. So I just
like look at them like I'm looking at myself almost,
and I just want to give them the most amazing,

(40:31):
beautiful fun life and make them incredible human beings. And
just I don't know, just like I feel like all
of my dreams have come true, Like everything I thought
about as a little girl has come true. And wow,
I really believe like I manifested Carter, the babies, my home,
my pets, all my things. So you'd say you were happy, Yeah,

(40:55):
I'm so happy. Like I used to always make eleven
eleven wishes and now every time it's leve eleven and
that I look at Carter, I'm like, I don't even
know what to wish for anymore. Like I like all
my wishes have come true, and I just feel like
the luckiest girl in the world.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I love that. What's been with the kids? What's one
lesson from the Paris Playbook that you want the kids
to learn from you.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I want them to know that kindness is the most
important thing, Like that's something that is so important to me.
And just to feel comfortable, to be able to tell
me anything and always feel safe, Just to know that
I'll always be there for them, and I'll always support them,
and I'll always give them the best advice and just

(41:45):
I just I don't know. I want them to always
just feel comfortable that they can tell me anything, because
I feel like, if your kid is too scared to
say something to you, then I don't know, then bad
things might happen because they don't feel comfortable to say
something to you.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I totally agree with that. I think all the trouble
I got into as a kid was because I didn't
feel comfortable telling my parents' stuff. Like I wouldn't I
would have avoided so much trouble I got into as
a kid. I was a troublesome kid and I was
a good person, but I was I was always just
getting involved in the wrong things. And it was all
because I couldn't talk to them about anything, and if
I tried, it would be shut down or I'd be

(42:21):
told not to do that or whatever it was. And
there was just no openness and dialogue. And I love
my parents. They're amazing. They felt they were doing it
from a good place from what they knew. We have
a great relationship. But at the time, now I look
back and I think I wish I could have just
told my mom about that. I wish I could have
told my dad about that, And maybe I wouldn't have
because I was scared and I felt fearful, and that

(42:42):
way you end up relying on yourself, but then you
end up making mistakes because you're just a kid. And
so I really liked that lesson because to me, that's
a really standout lesson of just how do you truly
make them feel comfortable to tell you everything and they
don't feel judged and they don't feel unloved. You know,
you've had you've had the media treatment in so many

(43:04):
different ways, I wanted to ask you what was harder
being misunderstood or underestimated?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Hm? Hm hm. I feel like so much life and
career I've been underestimated, And something I love doing is
proving people wrong. So I guess I don't mind that
as much now because I've really proven them wrong. But yeah,

(43:31):
being misunderstood, I think people just having you know, a
certain way to think about you, which there's always been
so much more to me than what people ever thought,
and I'm showing that side of me now, which has
been so freeing. To be able to show that there's

(43:52):
so much more than you know, the girl that they
thought they knew, and that there's so much harder and
compassion and just showing who I truly am and how
strong I truly am. I think that's been amazing to

(44:12):
show people like what I've been through and now to
be able to turn that pain into such a huge
purpose and make a difference in so many others' lives
through that has been so empowering.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, there's someone shared a quote with me the other
day that said something like the person who can see
beauty in everything is undefeated. And when I'm sitting with you,
I think of you, is that someone who's been able
to find a way of turning their pain into purpose
in so many different areas of their life. Like you
can't beat someone who does that, Like that's the strongest

(44:47):
person you'll ever meet, is someone who just can find
the meaning, the purpose, the beauty, the lesson in everything,
and then that person can rise from you know, anything
that they go to and everything that they go through.
And for me, I want to ask you, what boundary
have you put into your life that you think changed

(45:08):
your life? Have you set boundaries that you think changed
the trajectory of your life.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I think for a lot of my life, I just
cared so much about what other people thought of me.
And I think an important message to other people as well,
as it doesn't matter what others think of you. What
matters most is what you think of yourself. And that
has been like a powerful message for me to remind

(45:34):
myself of. And now I just feel like I'm more
myself than ever and I want others to be able
to feel that they can do that too. And the
power of being vulnerable because before and how I just
always grew up thinking like, oh, like being strong and

(45:54):
being perfect, like that is you know it matters. But
being real and being authentic and being vulnerable and talking
about even the things that hurt are things that are
scary to talk about, like that really just opens the
door for others to feel safe to do the same thing.
And I think that's been an important thing, an important

(46:16):
message of my life.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, as I'm sitting here listening to you, I'm almost
thinking that. You know, when we're young, you all feel
you have to be one version of yourself because you
want to be the cool person or the person who
fits in, or the person who sets trends. And you
almost become this persona of who you think people like.
And then as we get older, it's almost like we
give ourselves permission every decade to be more of ourselves.

(46:39):
Like I feel so much more of who I am
three sixty today than I ever did when I was
eighteen years old. And it would be ridiculous to expect
your eighteen year old self to be your most complete
self because you haven't even had all the experiences of
life yet. And now I look back and I think, oh, yeah,
every decade is just about me becoming more of me
and giving myself permission to even be the parts of

(47:00):
myself that other people would have laughed at before or
poked fun out or not being interested in it. It's almost like, no,
I like this part of me and I'm happy to
live with it because it's not going anywhere. Yeah, Like
it's always going to be here. What's something you used

(47:33):
to think was love but now you realize it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I was just watching it on TikTok the other day.
There's like this girl who's like an ADHD kind of influencer,
and she was just saying, like, how a lot of
us like confuse love, but it's actually the ADHD with
the hyper focus. So I feel like so many times
that I thought I was in love was just actually

(47:58):
my ADHD where it's like, yeah, you just like you
want that, like we love like dopamine dopamine rushed or something.
So it's kind of just like you think it's love,
but it was just actually your I don't know, but
then you get bored right after. So I think there
was just so many times like I thought it was
really love, but it was literally just because of the ADHD. Wow,

(48:20):
it was a really funny video.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I'll send you right now when people are watching.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, yeah, I was just like, oh my god, I
love this. I sent it to Sony and my friends
have ADHD. I was like, this makes so much sense,
Like so many times I thought I was in love
and it was not at all. This was literally just
the ADHD.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Well there's poor guys. Sorry guys, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Wow. So because you get hyper focused but then you
get bored quickly. Yeah, it was that you could get
fixated on someone, you totally head over heels for them,
and then tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
It's like you forget they exist. Wow, forget?

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, because another thing with the ADHD is like if
it's out of sight, it's out of mind, Like you'll
just people, even objects anything like if it's not there,
you just it's called object permanence, Like you just don't
even realize the exists anymore. So sorry, guys.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Does that affect any other of your life? Like do
you have to be mindful of it now that you're
married in a mom And does it affect life still
today or not?

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Like with Carter because I love him around for him,
but yeah, with other parts of my life. That's why
I did this show actually with YouTube and I partner
with Google on this and it's called Inclusive by Design,
and it's literally a show that teaches you how to
make inclusive spaces in your home, in your office, or

(49:45):
just in your life for people with ADHD. So that's
something that I've been like learning a lot about, which
has been so interesting and so much fun.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
That is interesting, I mean, it's it's it's brilliant though,
because I feel like found all these tools and principles
or concepts that you understand about how your brain works,
and therefore you can actually create a space in a
way that fulfills you and you know, makes a difference
in the morning rather than waking up feeling reactive to
whatever you go through. What are some of the rhythms

(50:16):
and routines you've had to put into place that help
you thrive with your ADHD. I mean we see in
the documentary, I mean you're performing in front of thousands
of people, You're rehearsing, you're writing. You know, it's it's stressful.
We see moments of you breaking down as well, Like,
what are the routines you've had to set up that
have allowed you to thrive at this level for this long.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
A lot of putting systems in place, a lot of
like coming to organize explaining people on my team, what do.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
You have to say to them? Like, what do you
say to someone? Your team's wonderful by the way they
thank you, They're amazing, Like everyone's got such great energy,
But like, what do you have to say to them
to explain what they're going to be in for because
they may not have had that experience with you.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, how just how just like certain systems need to
be like I just need like things Like it's hard
to describe because there's so many things that I do
in different areas, like from like the music, the business,
all of it, the AFFCACI work, But it's really just
like I don't even know how to describe it right now.

(51:20):
But I'm also lucky that a lot of the people
on my team have ADHD as.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Well, so they get it.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
They get it as well. And you know, we're we're
very creative, but we do need like systems and we
need people to understand that. And yeah, I don't even
know why I can't describe it right now.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
No, I get it.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
No, it's like, no, it's I'm intrigued because I think again,
there'll be lots of listeners who might be helped by
that because I think a lot of people are trying
to figure it out and are trying to thrive with ADHD.
We're seeing people being diagnosed, and I think, as you said,
you've become successful, you're reinventing yourself. You do a lot
of different things and you and you're doing that with ADHD,

(52:01):
and so the Yeah, my reason for asking was more
just so that people could learn some of those tricks,
but the documentary shows a lot of what you're working through,
so people can definitely what's there, Yeah, figure it out there?
All right, I've got a few last questions. I want
to ask you. What did you used to apologize for
that you no longer apologize for.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Trying to think what I would apologize for. Hmmm, I
feel like I've been unapologetic, Like I feel like that's
always I've lived my life.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, that's a good answer, But.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Maybe apologizing like like always having to be perfect, And
now I'm like, don't always have to be perfect, because
no one is perfect and what life is about and
then you can make a mistake, but you learn from
it and you grow from it. So I feel like
everything in life happens for a reason, and even if

(52:58):
you don't know what the reason today, you'll find out.
So you just have to like think about, like in life,
that everything is a journey and it's all just going
to bring you up to the next level of like
who you are in life. So yeah, it can be
hard sometimes, but it makes you stronger. I really believe that.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Paris. We were talking about this before before we started recording.
You posted a really you know, heartbreaking video of losing
your home earlier this year, and I had so many
friends lose home. I'm sure you had so many friends
lose home. It was it was you know, it was terrible.
And La is so large that when you're driving through

(53:41):
it you could even not see all of it. And
I think a lot of people who are visiting La
would be like, where where were the fires? And it's
like LA's just shoes. There's so many areas that are
sadly completely torn down and torn apart. Losing a home
feels like one of the deepest grieving that you go
through in life. To your memories, everything else. Talked to

(54:03):
me about what it felt like to even go through
that this year, and of course it was such a
shock for everyone.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
It was terrifying. You know, just to see just so
much devastation. I've grown up in La my whole life,
and just to see so many people lose everything was heartbreaking.
And the night after the first night of you know,
the wildfires here, my husband and I are our kids,

(54:33):
and we were just eating breakfast, watching the news, and
all of a sudden, you know, we see this woman
standing in front of this house and Carter looks and
he's like, that is our house, the blue door in Malibu,
and I looked. I was like, no, it's not. And
then I saw the address and it was just like
in the background, just like our house, just in flames,
burnt down to the ground, completely gone, and that's how

(54:57):
we found out about it, and just, you know, right away,
I was just thinking of all of you know, the
memories that I had with my babies there, all of
the art that we made together, family heirlooms, just so
many you know, things that were irreplaceable, and just so
many memories, you know, all gone. And then I just

(55:21):
started thinking about all of the other you know, families
and mothers and children who had lost everything. And then
I had nowhere to go that night, and I was
just completely heartbroken and I reached out to my team,
Rebecca who's the head of my impact called eleven eleven Impact,
which is my impact arm of my company, and it's like,

(55:44):
what can I do to help? And immediately went over
to Baby to Baby and started helping them with just
packing up supplies for families, and then went down to
Pasadena Humane Society and fostered a dog and started filming
all the pets there that had been lost in the
fires and they didn't have callers, so just reuniting them

(56:04):
with their families and posting them up so that people
would know about them, and making donations to them as well.
And then called up Hilton, I'm like, what else can
we do? Like, we need rooms for these people. They
have nowhere to you know, know where to live now,
So put a bunch of families up in homes and
then started the whole thing online. We raised like one

(56:28):
and a half million dollars within two days, and then
partnered with GoFundMe and then raised even more money and
then gave fifty small owned businesses women businesses that lost
their businesses in the fire all big grants and to rebuild,
and then went out and been visiting in the Altadena

(56:49):
and just helped with the Altadena girls and built this
living lounge where it's like this whole place where all
these girls can go and hang out and it's like
really pink and beautiful and so fun. And we just
they just had an opening with like two weeks ago,
and the girls were all there. So it's just so
amazing just to see how much happiness it brought them.

(57:12):
So even though you know, losing our home, I immediately just
started thinking about everyone else who'd been affected by it
and seeing what I could do to make a difference.
And you know, it's people are still rebuilding, you know,
even though the media is not talking about it anymore
because the news cycles move so fast, people are still

(57:32):
you know, trying to rebuild their lives and we are
still actively working with them to help that happen. So
it's been traumatizing, but also just seeing all the communities
come together and so many people supporting each other. I
thought it was such a beautiful thing to see.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, I thought it was incredible to see the resilience
of lading La get such a bad rap sometimes for
being weak or soft, to being you know, to whatever,
and everyone was out on the streets helping each other.
There was just so much community and there was so
much camaraderie and everyone showed up and it was all
the examples that you were beautifully involved in and just

(58:14):
so much just I really felt alive here, like it
felt that everyone was trying so hard to help each other. Yeah,
and it was so beautiful to see the city come
together even though it was, you know, extremely tragic and
traumatic for everyone who went through it. The fact that
people showed up and served in everyone else's time of need,

(58:35):
I was so needed and I couldn't agree with you more.
The work continues. It's not solved, and it's not over,
and it keeps going. Paris. You've been amazing today. As always,
I love talking to you. I learned so much from you.
I was getting to know you the terminal. When I
read your memory, I transformed everything I understood about you.
And when I saw this documentary and even today after

(58:57):
talking to you about it, I feel the same way
that I don't know how you did it, and I
don't know how it felt, but I do know that
it's extremely inspiring and it's going to give a lot
of courage to a lot of people. And I really
hope that it saves a lot of people from some pain.

(59:18):
And I'm grateful that someone like you is able to
put their story out there in a way to uplift
and empower others and own their narrative and reclaim it.
It's beyond needed. And I hope so many young men
and women wats the documentary radio memoir and recognize that

(59:39):
their lowest point doesn't have to be a continuation of
their life, and that they can transform it and turn
it into something beautiful. And I want to end with
asking you we had to redo this because it's your
second time. We're doing a quick fire around with you
of some fun and some profound questions. So these are
your fun questions. So what trend from the early two

(01:00:02):
thousands do you wish the world would bring back? And
what trends should stay buried forever?

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I love seeing just so many people inspired by all
of the trends that I created back in the two thousands,
Just seeing just like all of the you know, things
that are blinked out, all the slogan teas, just the
the motorol eraser flip phones, just all of the different

(01:00:32):
styles of outfits. Like the fashion was just so much
fun back then. One thing I don't like is that hardy,
which I've noticed some people are wearing again. I can't
with it. It's not into it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
I love that answer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
We all wore had haarty because of you. Yeah, I'm
glad we didn't have that many pictures taken of us
back then.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Yes I did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, yeah, I know you did, but that's we all
did it. So I'm glad there's no pictures of me
and Ed Heartie. That's what I'm saying. What's one headline
from that decade that shocks you because it was so
far from the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
There was a story that said I was dating Michael Jackson,
which I was. I've grown up with him my whole life.
My mom and him were best friends since they were thirteen,
so he was like a family to me. So when
I heard that rumor, I was like, you guys will
literally make up anything that is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
That is bizarre. Okay, all right, when you said that's
hot for the first time, did you realize what you'd created?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I was like seven years old. My sister would always
say with me like it was something she actually said
at first, and then I was like, I love that
so I started saying it a lot, and then when
I got The Simple Life, then I had it trademarked,
so I actually own that's hot. But back then I
would never have known it would turn into such a

(01:01:57):
pop culture.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Absolutely infinitely iconic.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Yes, that's the infinite icon.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Okay, if you and Nicole did The Simple Life today,
what job would you want to try? First?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Well, we did for Peacock the Anniversary special, which was
so much fun, and we went back to Arkansas and
went and visited the family we stayed with and all
the people we worked for. Was so much fun. But
if we had to do something again, I think it
would be fun to be like nursery school teachers because

(01:02:33):
we both love kids and we're so fun with them
and they're I love how kids just say so many
funny things. I think that would be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
I love that. That's a great answer. You've had an
incredible multi decade career. What is the most full circle
moment that you've had so far?

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Being in DC and passing my first federal bill to
protect children, Like that's something I've done a lot of
in my life that I'm proud of, but doing that
work has been just the most healing and empowering work
of my life. And I'm extremely proud that I'm able

(01:03:11):
to protect so many children and to change fifteen S
day laws as well, which as a little girl, I
never would have thought it would be possible that I
could ever do something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
But how hard was that to get instated? And how
was it already not in stated?

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Yeah, like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Amazing, Like that's incredible. I mean that's huge.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Thank you like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
How hard was it to get something like that into action?

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
It's been a lot of work, you know, and I
continue doing the work. It's been four years of going
back and forth to DC and speaking with all of
the senators and legislators and telling my story and bringing
other survivors with me to tell their stories. And it's
something that my team and I are, you know, working
on a daily basis because all children should be protected

(01:03:58):
all around the world. And this is work that I'm
not only doing in the States and doing an on
global level because this is unfortunately something that is still
happening today and you know, hundreds of children have died
in the name of treatment and it needs to stop.
And you know, no one was talking about it before
I was, and now it's turned into an entire movement

(01:04:20):
where survivors are finally being believed and it's been so
validating for so many of them, and it's made such
a difference. So that's just been something that I can't
As a little girl, I never would have thought that
was possible. But proving anything as possible, I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Mean, that's beyond powerful. Sounds incredible, like that's to be
able to have that impact of that scale and protect
so many people coming forward, and if we don't protect
our kids, then what are we doing? It's to do
that is That's that's really really powerful. I can't wait
to continue to see you do that internationally, especially because
sadly it's such a global issue.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
It's the last version we ask your Paris and my
last question is what's a piece of advice that has
kept you going through all the incredible highs and the
incredible lows till this day. What's the advice, what's the insight,
what's the wisdom that you carry You.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Can survive anything if you have heart, and that you
spread love and kindness throughout the world, and that everything
in life comes back to you. What you put out
really comes back to you and that people should just

(01:05:35):
lead with kindness always and the kindness is iconic.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I love that kindness is iconic. I'm going to say
that all the time now because you said that. And
if anyone sees me wearing anything blingy, it's because Paris
told me that because I shine a light, I'm allowed
to do that. Exactly, you might start seeing me in secret.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
That's why I wore today because you're trying to light
so I was like, the light reflects on the lay
and we're both late.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I love that, Paris Hilton. I'm so excited for people
to watch Infinite icon today again. You've illuminated so much
hidden meaning behind so many moments. I learned so much
when every I'm with you. I'm so excited for the
world to get to see all of these incredible messages.
And I continue to be a fan and supporter and
feel so fortunate that I've got to know you, and

(01:06:25):
I cannot wait to see what's next. Thank you for
your time and energy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Thank you so much. Means so much coming from you,
and I'm so happy and I can't wait to do
it again.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Yeah, me too. Absolutely, we'll have you back in two years.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
I Love SA.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
If you love this episode, you will also love my
interview with Kendall Jenna on setting boundaries to increase happiness
and healing. You're in a child You.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Could be reading something that someone is saying about you
and being like, that is so unfair because that's not
who I am and that really gets to me sometimes.
But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like,
but I know who I am. Does anything else matter?

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