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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we continue with our American stories. More people have
ventured into outer space than have been to where the
Titanic rests, two and a half miles down on the
ocean floor. Lowell Lytle has been one of the privileged
few who has seen the Titanic firsthand. Lowell has played
the part of Captain Smith at Titanic events all over
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the globe and has been entertaining guests at the Titanic
Museum for more than 15 years. Here's Lowell Lytle to
tell his story and the story of of the Titanic's
last hero.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
How do you do? This is Lowell Lytle. I have
an unusual story to tell you. I was home minding
my own business way back in 1987. I heard about
the Titanic. They've discovered it. And wouldn't you know, I
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got a phone call from the designer that was building
an exhibit in Orlando on the Titanic.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He called me. He said, Lowell, we've gone through 350
actors here in Orlando. Can't find a captain.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
He said, I told these men I know someone that
can play that part. He's my next door neighbor. I
used to be a lead singer of one of my
rock and roll bands. I had eight bands for 22
years touring the United States and Canada. And I went
over there on a hoot just to see what it
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was all about. And he opened the door and there
were six men sitting around the table. And he said, gentlemen,
here's Captain Smith. They took one look at me and
they said, yep, you're it. I didn't know what the
captain looked like, but an hour later I went through
that souvenir shop and I saw the front page of
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the New York Times, 1912. Picture of Captain Smith looking
right at me. And my first thought was my neighbor
has taken my picture and pasted it on the front
page of the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
He shouldn't do that. That's wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, I was there for about two years. And then
I heard they were going to dive to the Titanic,
and I thought, oh, that would be nice if I
could do that. So I called them, and they said, no.
I waited two weeks, and I called them again, and
I said, I'd like to go down to the Titanic.
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And they said, no, no, that's for archaeologists and important people,
wealthy people, people who've climbed Mount Everest, millionaires.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I waited two more.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Weeks and I, you know, I remember Winston Churchill made
a famous speech during World War II. He said, we
will fight them in the air, we will fight them
on land, we will fight them at sea, but we
will never surrender. I remember that he was invited to
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speak at Harvard University.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
After the wars.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And the professor said to the students, get your pads
and pens ready. Because when this man speaks, it's wisdom.
They flew him over from England. The old man hobbled
up the microphone and he said, never give up. Never, never, never,
never give up. And he turned around and sat down.
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I never forgot that. That was the best speech I
ever heard. I called him again. And I said, I'm
the captain of the Titanic. I'm in front of the camera.
I'm in everyone's home. I'm the one that's talking about
your exhibit. I believe if the media could say this
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man's been down to see the ship, more people would
be interested in what I have to say about it.
And you'll get more people there, and you'll make more money.
It got quiet on the other end of the phone.
And the man said, I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Come along. So I actually packed up and I went
to St. John's, Newfoundland.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's where you leave from. And I got there and
they looked at me and they said, you're too tall.
You won't fit in there. I said, I'll fit in there.
I'm six foot four. I'm the tallest and the oldest
that's ever been down to the Titanic. I was 68
at the time. I said, I'll fit in there. Well,
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we don't have a fire suit big enough for you.
Fire suit? What's this about a fire? Well, you'll be
breathing 100% oxygen. It could flash to a fire like
Apollo 1 did. Well, if that's the case, I'll be
burnt to a crisp in 10 seconds.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
What good is a suit?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
They said, well, your name will be written on it.
It's for identification. Identification? I'm that tall guy down there Well, anyway,
I got in the suit. The suit was a little
too small, but I did get in one. Now, when
I got on the Akademi Kelj, that Russian dive vessel,
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I noticed on the back end of one of those subs,
the protective shield that went around the propeller was held
together with duct tape. Now, that doesn't breed a lot
of confidence. And I'm thinking to myself, do I really
want to do this? All I could think of is, well,
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I've lived.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
A long life.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm 68. If I die, I know where I'm going.
That's the important thing. And if I come back, I'll
have a story to tell. And I came back and
I've been telling that story for 21 years all around
the world. I told it in Shanghai, China for two weeks.
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I told it in Singapore for two weeks. I've been
in every state in the United States, every providence in
Canada where they've had these Titanic exhibits. Sometimes two or
three times, different cities. One day I was eating dinner.
Now there's twice as many people out there. that would
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like to go down, that would get a chance. So
I knew I didn't have any chance.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But while I was eating, that fellow that I talked
to on the phone came over to me, bent over
and said to me, Lowell, you're going down in the morning.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And what a unique and original voice we're listening to.
And that is, of course, the voice of Lowell Lytle,
who plays the part and has been playing the part
of Captain Smith when we come back more. of Lowell
Lytle's story here on Our American Stories.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
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Speaker 1 (08:09):
And we continue with Our American Stories and with Lowell
Lytle's story about being one of the privileged few who's
seen the Titanic. and who also happens to play the
part of Captain Smith at Titanic events all over the globe.
Let's return to Lowell Lytle and his story.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh my goodness, my heart began to pound. I couldn't
believe it. They're going to let me go down to
the Titanic. Well, Fox Television followed me all around like
I was an astronaut. Now, first of all, you've got
to take your shoes off. In the event that you
pick up any oil from that mothership walking on the
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deck and breathing 100% oxygen, if there's a spark, that
would be it. So I took my shoes off and
got inside and with my long legs, wouldn't you know,
I kicked over the oxygen tank. Boy, it didn't take
long before that Russian pilot came alive and straightened that
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thing up.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Now, I.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I got no place to sit. I'm in a ball
that's six and a half feet in diameter, 19 inches thick,
and there's three grown men in there. And it takes
two and a half hours to get down two and
a half miles to the wreck site. They turn off
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all the lights to conserve the batteries. now they turned
that hatch down tight and I knew then I couldn't
change my mind.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I can't see anything.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
All I can do is think about what I'm about
to see. I'm not going to see a movie. I'm
going to see the real thing. And when they turn
on the lights, the Russian pilot says, we're almost there.
And I didn't like what I saw. We were going
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too fast and we bounced off the ocean floor. Oh
my goodness. Oh my goodness. Of course, it took five
minutes for all that dust to settle down. And the
first thing that I noticed was the sea life. It
was so strange. There's no light that far down on
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the ocean floor, no sun. So the crabs are white,
the starfish at 13 inches in diameter, five points, but
none of them any larger than your little finger. Now,
when they turned on the lights, moments later I was
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right over the bow, the same spot where Jack in
the movie held out his arms and said, I'm the
king of the world. I went right over that spot.
I said, take me to the captain's cabin. James Cameron
said the side was already gone. They took me there.
I was five feet from the captain's bathtub for ten
minutes while they were changing film. I found a wretch
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down there the mile down that was 13 inches across,
sticking straight up in the ocean floor like somebody throwing
a javelin. And I noticed while I was picking items
up off the ocean floor, there was a hat. It
looked like a derby hat. And it was in mint condition.
There's no current that far down. And I told the
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Russian pilot to go get that, and he did. There
are two mechanical arms on the outside of that sub.
And he picked it up, and they pushed a button,
and a basket went out from underneath. And he let
go of it to fall into the basket, and it
disappeared like a cloud. The microorganisms are eating up that
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ship at such a tremendous rate, it's going to be
an orange spot on the ocean floor within 100 years. Now,
I think that hat was probably made out of felt.
Had it been made out of leather, it probably couldn't
make it because those microorganisms that do not like the
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tanning process of leather, it repels them. Their shoes and
hats and bags, that's why you see those things. Found
enough items and I thought to myself, I'm just going
to stay focused on this and not get involved emotionally.
But after an hour and a half, all I could
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think of was what really took place that night. 1,500
souls slipped into eternity. All of them had plans to
get to New York and start a new life. It
never happened. Life can be short, folks. Make sure you
tell your loved one every day how much you love them.
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And you better know where you're going because it's going
to happen to every one of us. We're all going
to die one time or another. When it happens, it'll
be too soon. Just remember this. Eternity is a long
time to be wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Get it right.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
In fact, there's a story about a second-class passenger. His
name is Reverend John Harper. There's a book entitled The
Titanic's Last Hero. It's about Reverend Harper. And he was
on his way to Chicago to preach. He had a
revival service before he left. And he told the people
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in that service, he said he was going to go
to New York on that new ship called the Titanic
the next week. After the service, one of his parishioners
came up to him and said, Reverend, I have a
bad feeling about that ship. I have an ominous feeling
that something bad is going to take place.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I feel so strongly about it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I want you to go to New York, but I
don't want you to get on the ship. Please take
the Lusitania. I'll even pay for your ticket. Reverend Harper
thought about it. He says, no, the apostle Paul wouldn't
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run away from danger. If anything happens, he says, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
And it happened.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And when the Titanic started to go down, that Baptist
minister ran around the deck shouting, women and children and
unsaved people, get aboard the lifeboats. You just can't keep
these Baptists quiet. He even gave his life vest to
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a man that was not a Christian. His daughter Anna
was standing right next to him. And his sister-in-law was
standing next to him. They both survived. The sister-in-law overheard
the reverend when he gave that life vest to that man.
He said, here, take this. I don't need it. I'm
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not going down. I'm going up.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
He's in the water now. 28 degrees.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It feels like a thousand knives stabbing him. And a
man drifted by on a piece of wood and Reverend
Harper shouted to the.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Man, are you saved? The man said, no.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Reverend Harper shouted, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and
thou shalt be saved. The man drifted off into the
dark and later the current drew him back. And Reverend
Harper again shouted to the man, are you saved yet?
The man said, I can't honestly say that I am.
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Reverend Harper's last words were, believe on the Lord Jesus
Christ and thou shalt be saved. And with that, the
reverend slipped under the water and went to that frozen
watery grave. There were 12 people pulled from the water
that night. Six of them lived. That man was one
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of them. And that story was told a few weeks
later in Hamilton, Ontario by that same man who said,
I listened to Reverend Harper's last message and became a
believer in Jesus Christ with two miles of water beneath me.
Titanic's last hero Reverend John Harper.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
God bless you folks.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And what a piece of storytelling by Lowell Lytle. Not
only his story, not only his passion for the Titanic,
but telling the story of the Titanic's last hero as
well as perhaps only he can do. We haven't had
many better storytellers on this show and many better stories.
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A special thanks to Lowell Lytle for sharing his story
He has been entertaining guests at the Titanic Museum for
more than 15 years. He is also the author of
the inspiring read, Diving into the Deep. Loa Lytle's story,
the story of the Titanic, here on Our American Stories.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
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