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Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is our American Stories, and now it's time for
our Opportunity America series that's sponsored by Coke Industries. Today
we hear the story of Gwen Boyd Willis and how
Coke Industries helped her get a second chance. Here's Robbie
with the story.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Gwen Boyd Willis was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
My mother nine was Gwendoline Mitchell, and my father and
I was Ernest Boyd. And I lost my father at
five years old. He got killed in the automobile accident.
So I was raised in a single parent house.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Like it had started out a little harder than it
does for most. Wasn't found that with a little hard
work she would find success.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I was an All American and basketball. I was a
state champion in track and field. I had scholarship office
all over, but I wasn't able to go because my
mother was sickly, so I had to stay home and
take care of her. So then I worked at University
of West Georgia College as an assistant chef to about
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two thousand and five. That's when I got in trouble.
I went to the ATM machine one night with a
friend of mine, and when I walked up to the
ATM machine, it said, would you like another transaction? So
I was like, got money out the machine, and I
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took the ATM card and I went shopping with the card.
So maybe a mont went by. Some detectives showed up
at my door and my mom came and she was like,
two detectives here to see you. My stomach just dropped,
you know. I was like, oh, they got me, you know.
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So I went to the door. I told my mom
I was going with them. So I was sitting in
the back seat of the car as we was driving
to the police station, and I said, Lord, do I
tell the truth? And I holy Spirits said tell the truth.
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So by the time we got to the police department,
before he even said anything, I said, I did it.
I just, I just I did it like that. And
I'm so glad that I listened to the oldest spirit.
And because of my honesty, I had nine charges that
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they had against me. Because of my honesty, they dropped
five of my charges. M And when I went to
court for my charges, I went in one courtroom and
they did not have enough beds. So, you know, you
supposed to go to jail right away. The judge said, well,
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we don't have enough beds, so you can stay. They
le They allowed me to stay out of jail and
turn myself in in August. So I was allowed to
be out for eight months cause they didn't have a
bed for eight months. How I was just preparing myself, like, oh,
I got to turn myself in in August to go
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do time of the women's detention center. I had to
do four months a hundred and twenty days plus. They
had gave me ten years probation. So that day came
and I went at my time in the women's detention center. Man,
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what other place? I called it the jungle? Maybe like
fifty women in one room. It's a big room with
bump beds. You don't have any privacy. But I remember
before I went. The night before I left, my grandmother
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she told me. She said, well, no, you know the
real reason you're going down there. I said, no, I don't.
She said, you're going to do missionary work for the Lord,
and I just, you know, just sugar off, like oh okay,
grandma low and bed hole. Exactly when I got in there,
I was ministering to the women. They had me singing
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all the time, one of the correct the officers. She
was a very mean spirited lady, very angry, bitter, and
I made her my assignment before I left there. And
every day when I would pass through the line, you
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know we get our food, I would speak. I would
come around, I'd say hello, officers, so and so, and
I would say something nice and kind. As I started out,
she wouldn't speak. Eventually, when she started talking to me,
she had a sick child at home, so she was
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dealing with that. And eventually and I was like, well,
you know, I pray for your daughter today. I would
ask how her daughter was doing. Eventually she was starting
she was talking to me, and people was like, wow,
she talks to you. I remember the night before I left,
she came and pulled me out to talk to me,
and she thanked me for taking the time out. The
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talked to her. Then my time came home, I was
at home. I was like, so what am I gonna do?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I got a call at the blue from this lady
from Westwood College and she was just giving me this
whole talk. You want to go to school and this,
that and the third, and I was like, I can't
go to school. I don't have any money for that.
She was like, I can get you in school. So
she came to the house and we did my application
and everything, and I ended up going to Westwood College
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to major in criminal justice administration.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But despite putting the work in to complete her bachelor's degree,
she found that her criminal record was holding her back.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Every job I applied to they would see that, you know,
I have this fabulous resume, but when they checked my
background check would come back with the feelings on it.
And that was a lot that was disappointment, you know,
doom and gloom. And I can't tell you how many
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tears I cried because I was passed over from some
great jobs. Even recently. Last year, I applied to the
Fullding County Detention Center, you know, to be a counselor
there and went through the interviews.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I went about two.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Interviews and they hired me. They were just waiting for
my background check to come back. And I was honest
and I told the lady, you know, hey, I have
this on my record, but I'm in the process of
getting my my record partner. I'm waiting to hear back
from a judge. And she was like, well, we'll just
wait and see. So when my record came back, she
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was like, we can't hire you because you have this
on your record, But she did encourage me to come
back and apply again once I got parton. So yeah,
I applied for various jobs and that having their record,
having those feelings on my record to stop me from
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getting hired.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
When knew she wasn't who her record said she was.
She was determined to get her record pardoned, and she
went through the process twice, all on her own.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
This happened back in two thousand and five. You know,
it had been sitting there all this time. I'm not
there personally anymore. I'm a totally different person from back then,
you know. So the first time I tried, I was
gathering the paperwork. It was like trying to pull the
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tooth because it was like I didn't get no acknowledgement.
It was like I didn't get no respect. You know,
it's like they don't It feel like they don't care
when you're trying to do it on your own. I
paid the moneys, you got to pay all these fees,
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and I applied and they said no, I want you
waiting full or six months for ansel to come back.
So I went through that twice and they came back
and they was like, no, it don't. You don't meet
the qualifications for a parting. So I had talked to
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a friend of mine who was a full and counter
depth of the share. He was like, when you're gonna
have to get a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
No doubt. When Willis's record did not reflect her heart,
her spirit or what she could do out in the world.
When we come back more of our Opportunity America series.
When Willis's story here on our American story and we're
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back with our American stories. In the story of Gwen
Boyd Willis part of our Opportunity America series. When we
last left off, Gwen had applied for multiple jobs, but
because of her criminal record, something she'd done fifteen years ago,
she faced rejection. Upon rejection, she then tried twice on
her own to get her record pardoned and was rejected twice.
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Here's Robbie with the rest of the story.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Little did Gwen know that help would come from a
very unlikely place, a pulp and paper company called Georgia Pacific.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
My name is is Michael Davis. I'm the assistant general
counsel at Georgia Pacific, based out of Atlanta. Georgia Coke Industries,
which you know, the larger company of which Georgia Pacific
is one part, has a fairly extensive pro bono practice.
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Georgia Justice was one of the groups that was identified
as doing work that we were supportive of. You know,
a big part of this effort was the company saying
we're okay with you taking time to go work on
these pro bono efforts. Georgia Justice actually came over to
the GP Center. Part of what they do is to
assist people who have served their time getting a pardon.
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So I said, that's what I'd like to do, and
that's They then went over and met my client.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
When the Georgia Justice Project, when you go for an
initial interview, you go in with about thirty other people
and they go through it's like a training course where
they explained and show everything that they do to help
you along with the process. But you had to be
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selected out of those thirty people. I was selected out
of those thirty people. They chose my case. We would
meet up in the conference room and before we even
would get started on my case, you know, he would
sit and talk to me, asked questions about me. You know,
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he was want to know my how's my health, and
how's my family. He showed how he was really concerned.
You know, it won't so much is oh, we're gonna
jump right in. Hi, I'm gonna get you in to
get you out. People don't have to do nothing for you,
you know. And even though he was doing the pro bono,
it just let me know that this man is really interested,
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not in just my case, but he interested in and
what's going on in my life.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
So it was probably anywhere between I'd say forty and
fifty hours collectively. I mean, doesn't sound like a lot,
but it's you know, you're an hour here, an hour there.
I got to know her, got her background. We were
both sort of learning as we went about what needed
to be done. She was Her story was absolutely fascinating.
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You know, she'd had made a mistake as a young
person when she was confronted when the police came to her,
she acknowledged what she'd done, she took responsibility for it,
and just an amazing, amazing story about how much work
she put into her education and trying to get her
life back on track. She was really struggling, but she
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kept at it. I mean, she's just a very determined
person that certainly came through and talking to her and
then seeing everything that she had done. So we then
began to pull together all of the documentation that was
necessary for the parton application. When is so determined that it,
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it made my job very easy because I take when
we need to have this document or that document, and
she would go get it and produce it. I talked
to the board, got an investigator assigned to her case.
They then conducted the investigation, and they finally got through
with their investigation and let her know in August that
she had in fact received her her pardon.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Man. Yes, I actually went to Bible study that you know,
small gathering of people, and I came home and I
took my dog out that night and went to the mailbox.
I saw that it was a leather from the Georgia,
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State of Georgia. So I came into the house.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I was nervous.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I was like, oh, I didn't know what it was,
but I still was nervous. So I sat down and
I opened it. And when I opened it, I saw
that it was these big old letters and black bowl levers.
That said parton. I didn't even read the paper. I
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just saw that I got my party. I just saw
that that was it, the big Bowl letters and parting,
and I just sat there and I was crying. Oh
I cried. I mean I cried hard tears from my heart,
but they were tears of joy. And you know, it's
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just as I sat there, I began to think about
everything I had went through, all the nose from jobs.
I thought about just you know, having a record, a
stigma comes with it, so people automatically look at you
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in a negative way. And it felt like a burden
was lifted off of me, awake was lifted out for me.
I mean, I'm free. I got a new, clean slate.
And then I began to read what it said and
just the wording of the partying. I mean, it's so amazing.
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You know, everything has been re established back to me
that was taken away from me. You know, everything has
been forgiven. You know, my record has been forgiven. And
that's just I'm so elated. That's just lost for words.
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You know.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Just when I met with her here, I mean she
was I won't say she was a changed person, but
you could just tell weight had been lifted from her shoulders,
so you just had. She was excited at the possibilities
that were now in front of her.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You don't know mon story, harble change is I've been through.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You don't know my pain.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Haplana had to endoor to get him.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You don't know much.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Stranggos.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Don't try to fite them min because my worship, my
watership is food.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You wouldn't speak to that, huh.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And know we were not expecting that, and you were
listening to a joyful and triumphant Gwen Willis. People don't
have to do nothing for you, Gwen said, I was forgiven.
I was so elated, I was lost of words. And
then she sang that song for us. We know your struggles, Gwen,
we do, and we love you for how you dealt
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with them and endured them. And that laugh, my goodness.
We all wish we had one like that, but we
can't make it up. That's real, that's you, And thank
you for sharing all that you shared. Thank you Robbie
for the great job you did on this. Thank you
to the folks at Georgia Pacific, and of course the
folks at Coke Industries. More than sixty five thousand people
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chance that their work intersects with your own story in
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In the process, they're creating jobs and opening paths to
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