TGI - Episode 305 “Hometown Hero”

The gangs’ concerns about Season 3 sure are stacking up - but are they just facing another bout of Drop Shock? 

With Topanga back on the call sheet, there’s hope, but the absence of tripods, cameras and cables are stealing most of Rider’s attention.

Plus, this episode inspires Will to admit to a lifelong lie he told about Bon Jovi and some tour travel stories are in full effect…

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
So I, Danielle and I obviously you know we were
doing the live shows. We did our first round of
live shows that went incredibly well, and we were having
a test.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
You and Danielle were doing them.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, Daniel and I were traveling together. So Ryer, you
you did it, you know in the van and Daniel.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You did the live show from your van, and from
your van.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
You had people from People don't understand the size of
Ryder's van. We had twelve hundred people in the last
It was great. But I have so Daniel and I
were traveling together. I have been flying. I think the
first time I flew I was five or six years old.
I've been flying my whole life. And I saw something
that I have never seen before on an airplane. And

(01:03):
Daniel and I both witnessed this.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
The plane is landing okay, like we're moments ninety seconds
away from touchdown, and a guy gets up and goes
to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
What yes, And the flight attendants did.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Not stop at anything. He wow, goes to the bathroom,
shuts the door.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I always assumed they would like tackle you and I rest.
I mean, I have held something.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I have held it like when during takeoff, I've had
to go before and like it's been miserable.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
So he gets in there, the door shuts. We then
have a really rough landing, like if this were two
thousand and two, that guy would have been shot right right,
so you know what I mean like that that's lax.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, yeah, one of the worst landings. It was hard
in years.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean it was a hard landing. And this guy
is in the bathroom for it, still in there. So
the flight attendants first look to each other, so they're
like they're facing us, you know, we we can see them,
the flight attendants who start laughing at the landing and
then turn to each other and they're like, guess we

(02:15):
better check. And the woman reaches back and knocks on
the bathroom door and as they're laughing, just like everything
going on right in there.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Do you make it?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
And the guy opens up the door as we're taxiing
on the runway were the plane still moving.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
It walks back to a seat and buckles himself in.
It was like I've never was he soaking wet from
blue water.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
This where a Jim Carrey movie be coming out all wet,
but it was.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
It was like, I looked at Danielle was like, there's
a guy in the bathroom. She's like, what, there's a
guy in the bathroom right now. I've never seen it
ever in my life while flying. It was so weird.
And then Danielle stole some guy's needlenos players.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I did not. I hadny seat issues. I when I
got into the got onto the plane, we wiped down
our trays with you know, sanitizer stuff, and I pulled
out my food tray and it was like one of
the hinges, you know, it folds in half, and one
of the hinges was coming out, and so when you
unfolded it, it kind of just like flopped. It was

(03:18):
like and he'll goes, don't say anything to anyone about it,
because then they'll have to come fix it. And we
could hold the whole plane up. But I was like,
don't worry, I won't say anything.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Wait, did you we have to go back?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Did you use decent?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
You sanitized your lunch tray? Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I always wipe down everything in the cit Why you
got's grace? What what is this like? March twenty twenty
when you're.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like, oh, I've been doing every dude, I've been doing
this since the mid nineties.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, I mean, oh man, so.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
You bring along hand sanitizer and you wipe down.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Like chloral like clos wipes of course, Wow out hand
them out on those planes for people to do that,
Like when you walk on the plane, they hand you one,
but I bring my own because they're tropical scented. Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, you just touched things that thousands of other people touched,
and a bunch of people are touchings in your mother. Yeah. Yeah,
that's what I do. I suck my face. That's how
you touch your tray. You touch the little TV screen
and then you lick your hand.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I've seen I drive a van across the country and
right I see bears.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I get pulled over for speeding.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
We we had to move. Wait, when did you see
a bear? We saw a bear in Yellowstone, actually right
outside of Yellowstone. It was just why we were driving though.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
It wasn't It wasn't like two years ago we actually
had a bear encounter a bear in our campsite.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
But this year we we we.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Were just driving by it and we could see there.
All the park rangers were like gathered along the side
of the road. As we were pulling into a campground
and and then we like looked and we saw a
bear with cubs, which is.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
The most dangerous situations, Like yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
So we just saw this like mama bear under a
tree with these with the two cubs.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
It was really cute.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Do you think the bears sit around and they're like,
oh yeah. Last year we had a total people encounter,
like and it's just a bear sitting like, don't look,
don't look over, just enjoy our campsite. It's not you know,
like I wonder if it's that way. But yeah, now
Danielle stole somebody's flyers.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah. So, anyway, the tray came out, it was all floppy.
We weren't going to say anything about it, and the
next thing I know, someone was like, excuse me, I
think your tray table's broken. We were like, yeah it is,
and they said, well, the guys here to fix it,
and we were like okay. So we got up. We
stood in the galley, talked to the nice man, talked
to the wonderful flight attendant.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Welcome to people on the flight were like, welcome board.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Come come on, come on, and then he was all
done and we went back and it was fixed and
everything looked great, and we sat down, and then I
don't know forty five seconds later he came back. He goes, ah,
I'm really sorry to ask you guys to get up again.
I think I left my needle nosed plyers around here.
So we got up. He searched the seats, couldn't find it.
We sat back down. Maybe a few minutes or so
pass so then he comes back. He goes from here.

(06:05):
So anyway, we're pretty sure they think I stole his
red needle nose players, but I did not.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
In all fairness, I also think Danielle stole his needle nose.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I absolutely did not. I have so many needle nose pliers. Well,
what do you do with another pair? Another pair?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
What I do with another pair, especially aviation needle nose players?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And where can I use those? Oh? My, Welcome to
pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm right or Strong,
and I'm Seat two A. I'm wilfordll.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
So.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Today we are talking about season three, episode five, Hometown Hero.
It originally aired October twenty seventh, nineteen ninety five. The
synopsis is when Corey as heralded a hero for saving
the school from a fire, mister Feenie has his doubts
about the story. It was directed by John Tracy, Interesting
written Tracy came back.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I didn't remember coming Yes.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
It was written by Matthew Nelson. Guest starring Alex D.
Sayer as Eli Williams, Deborah Harmon as Connie. She was
on Tons of TV. Also guest starred on The Mommy
in nineteen ninety five, The Mommies, The Mommies, My Brother Show, Yes,
The Mommies in nineteen ninety five, and is best known
for the Tom Hanks movie Bachelor Party. And then Bob
Larkin returns as Janitor Bud Jim Jansen as doctor Sorell

(07:30):
also appeared in every TV show ever, from Amazing Stories
to Mister Belvedere, to West Wing to Gilmore Girls to
Mad Men. He has never stopped working. And then Michael
Hanneff appears as Tommy, stand up comedian Joey Gaynor appears
as crew Guy, and real life radio personality Yolanda Gaskins
is Doctor Sharon. So did you guys remember this episode

(07:54):
at all? No? Nope, not a bit, nothing, A bit,
a bit nope.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Similar to our last episode three or four, there's something
a little off or maybe yeah, I don't know, like
maybe I'm just not used to season three yet.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Something I think part of it is.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
And this has now happened twice in a row. We
keep seeing rehashes of exactly the same storyline. Well, how
is this a rehash because it's Corey trying to once
again be the like I don't want to be me.
I don't want to be Corey. I want to be special. Okay,
we've seen that forty two times already. I get it,
and I get how it's supposed to be about a
kid who's trying to find his way in the world

(08:33):
and trying. But by the nineteenth time of exactly the
same thing, he ends up on stage again in front
of it. I mean, it's we've seen this now a
bunch of times.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I think that was actually did kind of be like
once Ben was like on stage of the Jocks. I
thought it was great. I thought you were fantastic in
this episode. This this was truly Eric Eric the way
he's going to be for the rest of the show. Like,
at this point, to me, you are fully arrived.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
What did I do in this one? He is where
you want to be a Weatherman. Yeah so great. Yeah,
and you owned it.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
And it's like it's like goofy, dumb Eric, but with
like a purpose and a goal that's funny, and your
energy level is great and your delivery is just confident
and perfect. I was like, oh, will is so Eric now?
Like this is who Eric is going to be forever
and ever. Like it felt I don't know, it just
felt right, you know, as opposed to like all the
SAT stuff, which I was always like, maybe Eric's gonna

(09:26):
pull through and have like an emotional story lines. It's like, no,
Eric is going to be absurd. He's going to have
ridiculous goals and they don't really matter and that's fun.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Like that's good.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, and I know I did like that part. But yeah,
just I guess I just want to see this kid.
I don't know, I want to see different stuff with Corey.
Now it just seems like it's the same stuff over
and over again. Like the last episode we talked about
how it's Sean's running away again and now Corey's somehow
become the popular guy again.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
That nobody remembers. It's just the same thing. Yeah, it
didn't bother me too much. I actually really liked the
idea of kids who really are responsible for the horrible
aspect of it taking credit for the one positive aspect
of it. I kind of like that storyline. But you're right,
it's a storyline we've seen before, certainly when you look
at it from the perspective of I'm finally somebody, somebody
knows my name. So to start our recap, we start

(10:14):
in the chem lab new set.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Which I did I not remember at all?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
No, Also new teacher alert. Are we already bored with
mister Williams? We just brought that gentleman on to have
him be the new teacher we have to meet.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Now we are we are introduced to quite literally the
world's worst educator. Yeah, this is just the most horrible
teacher in the horrible Oh yeah, oh, I'm not saying
it's a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's funny. Yeah, we've only seen a teachers that really care.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Do we need to introduce another teacher? No, it doesn't
have to be a male, Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Because you need a chemistry you need it has to
be chemistry because you have to have the matches and
you have to have the chance at the schools.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Right, But what does that have to it could still
be a female chemistry Oh no, no.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
No, I know. I'm just saying, like we do we
have to introduce a new teacher, which wanted the chemistry teacher,
It had to be that.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
It could easily have been a woman. But and I
guess if they're gonna make the person a bad educator,
I'm happy they chose a guy. Finally bringing in a
woman teacher. And then she's like, hey, Jelly, don't even
bother to work on your paper.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Have we Okay, so we only had the one substitute
female that I flirted with, right right, And then we've
had the guidance counselor who flirted with me in a
weird way, and we have the tutor who flirted with
Have we had a female educator? Yes, we never saw her.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
She's only related to mister Turner for sexy time exactly.
I think until we get anybody, it's like season everybody.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
If you if you show up as a female educator,
you're gonna get paired up or flirted.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You're gonna get You're gonna be with someone. Okay, So
this teacher tells the class lab reports are due by
the end of the day. No, exceptions or extensions. Corey
and Seawan both didn't do their paper. Seawan didn't even
know there was a paper. Cory says they have to
tell doctor Cerell the truth that aliens abducted them and
ate their papers. Doctor Serell is talking to Tommy and
says when he said no exceptions, he didn't mean him.

(12:09):
He needs to rest his touchdown throwing arm. He offers
to let Tommy turn in his paper by the end
of football season. Tommy says he plays basketball too, so
doctor Crell says, just forget about it. Sean goes up
to doctor Cerell and he just says no. Cory says
he'll handle it, and he goes up to doctor Cerell
and he doesn't say a word, and then opt to go.

(12:31):
We are now climbing into the chem lab at night.
Two new sets.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
We are all about the new sets this season, just
blowing just to night. Oh I'm sorry, I thought we
were outside. Then we go up. There is another one
the chemistry, then the outside the chemistry.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's I know. So Cory is sneaking into the classroom
at night and says doctor Cerell didn't even know his name.
Sean asks what Cory is so said about and Cory says, wow,
who knows it could be staying up all night to
finish a paper, could be breaking into the SCOO. Also,
his paper isn't late or losing half his pants on
the barbed wire. Sean asks why Corey didn't just walk
through the gate like he did, but he says it
was too easy. It looked like a trap like that.

(13:09):
That's very funny.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Sean also talked about Troy Aikman at this point, not
yet Okay, I know.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I know that name. Okay, what he plays, but I
do know the name. There's somebody named Troy Aikman who's
very famous for.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Quarterback. I probably I have to say this line. Yeah
Cowboys quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Oh, the Cowboys were big in the nineties, right, that
was like, of course they were the biggest team in
the mid nineties.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
They won three three Super Bowls. Yeah, that's right. Corey
is upset with Tommy forgetting out of his ken paper
for throwing a lucky touchdown. He says, eventually that look
is going to run out, and Sean says, yeah, Troy
Aikman is really hurting. Sean tries to tell Corey about
breaking and entering you don't usually hang around invent while
doing it, which I also thought was a very funny line.
And then they're about to put their papers on the
desk when Shawn's flashlight goes out. Corey tells them to

(14:00):
check the batteries, and Sean says, okay, but I need
a flashlight. None of this makes sense to me that
you guys can't see enough to put the papers just
down somewhere.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
You Why aren't you gone already get the heck out
of the very distinct memories of having to do scenes
like this with ben Uh where the two of us
are like setting off a series of change, a chain
of reaction, like series of unfortunate events like we did
it with the B episode, Remember when we lose the
B and the brain and the lab. Here we are
in a lab doing a similar thing. And then also

(14:32):
I just feel like I remember having to be like, wait,
we do what we have to pick this up and
then you have to go slight this and it always
sucked and it always go forced and it was never fun.
And I don't think like I never enjoyed it. I
never enjoyed this sort of like, well, obviously we just
have to get here, so as actors, it was behold
on us to like figure out how to you know,

(14:53):
and it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Like this, No seems super forced. It always sucks when
you are supposed to be in a nighttime set and
it's supposed to be so dark that you couldn't possibly
put the papers down, and yet it's so well lit.
We see everything that's going on. It's so it's unfortunate.
But Corey finds matches and the whole pack catches fire.

(15:14):
He throws it in the trash can, which goes up
in flames, and Corey and Sean start blowing at it
to make it go out. When it doesn't, they yell
back Draft, which is a very popular movie at the time,
and they escape out the window.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
It was real fire, right, yeah, look like it? Yeah, okay,
didn't have was what would the option? But there was
no digital fire. Yeah, digital fire looked horrible up until retive.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Even still it kind of looks pretty bad. It's hard
to do fire, fire and water. So they run out
the window and they leave the fire in the chemistry lab.
Cory realizes chemicals can explode, and Sean says this is bad.
Not because of the explosion but because he ended his
paper within conclusion chemicals, I'd like to point something out here.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think there's a chance we either had a long
hiatus between the last episode and this episode or these
are out of order, because everybody's hair is longer than
last episode, and I mean noticeably longer, including because my
first note here is the first time you see Foene,
it's long as his hair has ever been. My hair

(16:17):
is way longer, righter, your hair is way longer. Everybody's
hair is longer this episode.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Probably, Yeah, maybe this was shot later in the season.
That's what I'm thinking, because this was not that.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's it's noticeable that our hair is completely different than
the last episode.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So this is out of order. It's got to be.
So Corey goes back up to save the school, and
Sean asks that while he's up there, he changes the
ending of his paper, and uh, this again is just
the the stakes of what else can Sean blow up?
You know, like what we've got, We've got a mail box,
we've got But Sean didn't do this. Corey is the

(16:53):
one who did it.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Cord it all.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You're right, it was all on him.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Other than for comedy purposes, there's also no reason for
both of them to be there.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
One person could break in and drop the papers off. Right,
you're right, but also there are dufuses who love each
other so much they got everything together, they would never
do it. But yes, there's no reason that the boat.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
But it would have been like to me, it would
have been more pointed if Sean is the only one
who hasn't turned in his paper and Corey's helping him out,
helping him break in and do this, and then you know,
Corey makes a mistake with the matt I don't know,
like instead, it's just kind of like we're on this
and then it ends up being Corey's issue and Seawan
has nothing to do with it. He's just kind of farce.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
It's just trying to be like, you know, oh I
dropped the matches and oh now I lit the thing
on fire. Oh now hero like it's it's so British comedy, farcical,
but it's.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
I like my Kaki jacket again, a jacket better than
a leather jacket, fits me better, more interesting, never seen again.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, well then we're in the school hallway slash Turner's classroom.
Corey is panicking and Sean tells him not to worry
because they got away with it. When they pulled the alarm,
nothing bad happened and no one knows. Perfectly timed. Janitor
Bud comes running up to Corey and Sewn and says,
I know. Corey asks what he knows, and he says
he knows what they did last night and to follow him.
Sean tells Corey to quickly rub off his DNA. Is

(18:13):
this a reference to I know what you did last summer?
Was the movie out already?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
But okay, what would the reference be? When he goes,
I know what you did last night, I didn't know
if it was I don't think. Okay, yeah, okay, that's
what I was wondering. Ok so funny with the fingerprints,
Janitor Bud tells everyone Corey is the one he saw
running down the hall after the fire alarm rang Turner

(18:36):
says at a boy. Corey is confused. Janitor Bud explains
he was asleep in his office which is really the closet,
when the alarm woke him up and saved his life.
If Corey hadn't pulled the alarm, another janitor would be
in here sweep sweeping him up it's quite a fast
turnaround for Janitor's Apparently it would have already had him
in there. Uh Eli says it sounds like the little

(18:59):
guy sounds like a hero, and Phoene says he was fortunate.
Corey was passing by the school at that exact moment
and asks what he was doing there. Cory says he
was just at the right place at the right time.
Janitor Bud says, anyone who saves his life is okay.
In his book, everyone claps except Phoenie. Seems as though
Feene is onto.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Him, But wouldn't everybody be on him? I know, it
doesn't make any sense, like you have to break into
the school, so in the fire alarm, there's no way
you're a hero ever.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
In unless was, yeah, because he did have to go
back into the school to ring the fire labs.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
So he was caught running through the school pulling the
fire alarm, and no one, no one besides Phoenie connects
the dots and just asks the single question, why were
you at the school in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's also his chem lab, like a class he's in.
It's not even like it's a classroom that he has
no relationship to Caught on Fire. It's like, huh, a
class you're in, you have a pa paper, do not
none of it?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
None of it.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's just the.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Simple question, why was Corey not home? Why was Corey
at school?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Just everybody would ask that. That's the first question you asked, right,
I guess it.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Also, it depends on when this is, because if it's
three o'clock in the morning, that's one thing. If it's
seven o'clock at night that's something different. Because he says later,
I was walking from Chubby but walking home from Chubbies
and I saw the.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Flames, right, which I would make my sense. Wait, does
say that?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, yes, he said I was walking home from Chubbies
and I saw the flames.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
He starts to explain that to Who does he say
that to? He says it to his parents. Yes, in
this in the kitchen, he does not say that, but
he does.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Ela in the school would be like, but why were
you here?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't understand, Like, tell me the whole story. You'd
want to get to the whole story early on.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
I know just the second you can dismantle the logic
of a storyline with one question. I'm out right because
that's just that's just the kind of view where I
am like, I'm like done, I'm not going to forgive
this show immediately. I just have never been that kind
of you. It's like, okay, well I've just mantled it,
so then I'm not going to give it the time
of day. And that's just puts me at odds with
some boy episodees, because yeah, never make true.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
You're you're right. I mean, I do think that where
what is difficult is that people love this show because
they watched it as children in the nineties, and so
it's very hard to be a forty five year old
person who writes scripts for a living and then to
watch a nineties children's show. Of course you're coming to

(21:34):
it with those kinds of questions. And we've also been
maybe told too many times how different it is than
other sitcoms, and so in our minds there were fewer
of these moments that just make no sense. But the
truth is it's not. It's in a lot of ways
it is different. And then also there are still a

(21:55):
lot of ways where it is still a nineties kid sitcom, right,
and it's not. It's not a R was the R
Great show? I heard are okay, it's not a r
it is Boy meets World. And even though also.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Don't love it the way fans love it, we're investing
for the first time exactly. So like when I watch again,
bringing it back to Mash, when I watch Mash, which
is so important to me, there's plot hole after plot
hole and continuity errors and I just don't care. It's
just so nice and warm that I just don't care.
It's like right, and it gives you a feeling this episode.
But nineteen fifty two, two episodes later, and you're like,

(22:32):
all right, I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, So we also have a different POV because we
were in it. There's a lot of reasons, so of
course you're right. I mean one question, it's like yes,
and maybe I had not thought. I haven't thought about
it enough. Maybe there are some simple ways they could
have made it stronger, where at least then they could
have and like Will said, they do later have him say,
oh gosh, it was the craziest thing that ever happened.

(22:55):
I was walking home from Jubbies and I saw the flames.
But the episode has to escalate because at first he's
not into it, so he doesn't. We don't want to
see him come up with a whole story right off
the bat. We want to see him get suckered into it,
which is why they don't do it. But it would
have made it stronger from your perspective, right, or if
he did have a solution right away, if Turner was like, huh,

(23:17):
well were you a Phoenie and Turner and he was like, yeah,
Sean and I went to Chubby's and on the way
home I saw the flames and Sean begged me not
to but I had to run in and then wow,
amazing And Phoene still doesn't buy it. Could have saved
us a little bit of it.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I mean, I also think that there's just something I
don't mind. I think if you're going to have an
absurd episode with absurd logic, it's it should be absurd,
like it should be funny, you know, Like the thriller
in Phila is a good example of like let's just
go great, right, you know, like none of this needs
to make sense, and you and I think we do
get there with this episode, like once Ben is on stage,

(23:49):
like with the jocks having to get again, like the
Thriller in Philla, where you see Corey's just it's ridiculous,
like he's just having so much fun and you're like
willing to look past the logic. But when you have
this feeny dynamic of like I'm on to you and
Corey's gonna actually have to learn his lesson, I don't know,
but whatever, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Get it, I understand. And then we're in the school hallway.
Corey is uncomfortable with the entire school thinking he's a hero.
Someone laid out a red carpet that leads directly to
Corey's locker. They touched the carpet and Corey says, ooh, plush.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Did this carpet mess with your guys head as much
as it messed with mine?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
No, the way that it did. Gorr.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, it creates a false depth like it because it's
aligned with the camera POV. It looks like there's a ledge,
like it looks like it's going up, and then that
there's like a flat ledge because it has to tuck
into to go from a wide regular with red carpet too.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Didn't bother you guys at all. It's either to me.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
It was like the it was like, wait a minute,
why does it look like it's going up and then
to a like another level, And it's just because.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Of the way it's it's framed visually. It's so weird.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's like an optical illusion that I couldn't stop seeing.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
You want to go back and check that, Yeah, I know.
Producer Jensen carp husband of this podcast, said he noticed
it as well. Writer, so it wasn't just you. He
also literally go.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Back and be like, it doesn't actually go to a
ledge there, does I was like, no, no, they just
cut the carpet to make it. Yeah, but it's a
weird illusion.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Well.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Doctor Serell walks over and calls Corey by his name,
to which Corey is shocked that he knows who he is.
He hands Corey's paper and says he got an A,
but Corey looks to see and says the only thing
left on the paper from the fire is his name
and the date. Doctor Serell says, I saw where you
were going, and to keep up the good work, Sean
gets a D on his paper, and doctor Serell says
chemicals do explode. Sean is pleased with the D and

(25:35):
says he's writing Corey's cottails, Your coattails very funny. Funny joke.
Corey says it doesn't feel right, but Sean says Tommy
got lucky with his touchdown and Corey got lucky with
the fire. Janitor Bud gives Corey a clicker that opens
his locker, a locker Genie, and a backup locker Genie
for his wife. Corey is is excited with the locker
Genie and says he can get used to the parks

(25:56):
of saving a man's life. Sean says Corey's a hero,
and Corey's says he doesn't see a burned down school anywhere,
so it appears as though now he's starting to believe
his own hype. And then we're still in the school hallway.
Janitor Bud is vacuuming the red carpet to Corey's locker.
Ast to Panga calls for Sean because they have to
meet Corey at the rally in the calf.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's it, You're finally on the show again. That's how
I'm not going to reach through it. You're not eve
gonna be like here. I We're just like Inanga walk on.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Really it's completely useless. Get me out of the show.
Pointless and useless.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
And yeah, there's not even like a dynamic of I
don't know, like it seems like there's.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'm not even sure we're still dating in this episode,
except for the fact that later he says I'm the
wife and he makes me hand over the locker. Joanie,
I do look so adorable though. I love so cute.
I'm so tan I love the high ponytail with the
straight hair, the cute little mini skirt, and I want
those yellow boots. So kudos to me for being adorbs.

(27:11):
Pod Meets World Live. The kids want to jump to
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one is going to be very special. It's the thirtieth
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Tickets are available now at podmeetsworldshow dot com. We cannot
wait to see you there. Then Sean says he hates

(27:37):
that stuff jocks guys with tubas cheerleaders, and then he
grabs Topanga's hand and they run off to the rally together.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Could have been a better acting job on my part,
Like this transition, I just blowed blue right through it.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I'm like, oh really, I'm like, well.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know, I should be more like and then the realization,
oh cheerleaders instead like yeah, oh yeah, I just didn't
like this joke. I could tell like, I didn't think
that this was very funny, so I just blew right
through it. I'm like, oh, I'll just say the thing
and do the scene, but I did not like it.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, yeah, the whole Also, there's no there's no reason.
It's also there's no reason for any of this except
for the fact that they like, well, we can't just
have Sean and Tapanga watching the walk into the cafeteria
because then people would be like, well, would did Topanga
get here? So it's literally just to service the fact
that Tapanga has to get Sean into this room. And
then they gave you a B minus joke and we

(28:27):
just were like.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
All right, said the cafeteria is where this pep rally
is going to be, which makes more sense because we've
already the first episode of the season. We had the
auditorium that we could have, you know, but we didn't
want to bring.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
That because there was nine extras this week. Well, we
wanted to go to the calf. Tommy is on stage
making a speech about people thinking he's a big deal
because he throws touchdown passes, and he wouldn't have a
field to do it on without Corey. The football team
is dedicating their game on Saturday to Corey. Tommy introduces Eric,
but he doesn't know Eric's last name, and then he's
shocked to learn Matthews is also his last name, just

(29:02):
like Corey's. Eric starts to make a speech about Corey,
but then says he and Stephanie broke up last week,
so he's single and available. He finishes his speech by
saying Corey is a hero and.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
This is full mature Wilfredell as Eric Matthews.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Looking great, nailing, looking great, pointing the ladies in the audience,
in the whole stage. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, that is where I was like, all right,
Will has arrived.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Will's there, Corey, thanks Eric, Tommy and the football team.
He pretends to cough and says there is still something
some still some fire. Smoking his lungs from the fire.
He makes a speech and says there's a little Corey
Matthews inside each and every one of you. The crowd
is silent, and then he says it's a metaphor. The
metaphor the football team lifts Corey up and walks him

(29:48):
out of the rally, and Tapega says, isn't it great?
What's happening to Corey? Everyone loves him? Great, Reddufist, get
the hell out of here, and you're not even on
the show. And the smallest rally ever, by the way,
I'm not even sure the Corey inch banger are dating stuff.
I don't know if they're dating.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
There's nineteen people at the rally entirely, and they didn't
even try to make it look like a bigger school.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
There was like empty seats. It's like, what the hell
is happening? I don't Yeah, it was funny. Then we're
in the Matthews backyard slash the Matthew's kitchen. Corey says
today was the best day of his life and asks
Sean if he thinks the student council can really name
the school after him. Corey Adams High.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
And what he's carrying like the take home I know,
doggy bag, the swan. What did he get, like somebody.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
He's just been given food and a Teddy Bear or
they went out to eat after and like he's just
not explained.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, Sean says he knows Corey is having fun, but
he wants to make sure he still has his feet
on the ground. Corey tells Sean not to rain on
his parade, which is on Tuesday. Corey says he's just
letting people think what they want to think. It's not
like he's lying to his parents. Then Alan, Amy, and
Eric yells surprise and Co and Sean walk into the
kitchen standing under a giant banner that says Corey our hero.

(31:05):
Alan says, there's the man that saved the school and
the phone hasn't stopped ringing all day. Sean says, well,
why didn't you just answer it? Hey, Now we get
a little bit of dumb Sean to go in here.
Amy wants to do your big face acting there.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I don't know if you notice my reaction saying that big,
big fact, what do you do happening? It's like one
of these It's like.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Oh good, where are you looking at him? Like you're
a dummy?

Speaker 3 (31:26):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I like it better when the dummies connectou been good question.
That's a good question, That's what I said. Amy wants
to hear all about what happened. Corey tells him he's
going to say, what really happened. Then he looks over
at Sean and we think for a moment he might
tell the truth, but then he makes up a story
for his family about walking back from Chubby's the night
of the fire and seeing the flames. Sean looks disappointed,

(31:49):
and then we are in the school hallway. Corey is
playing with his locker Genie, and he goes up to
Sean to talk about not staying for dinner. Sean says
he wasn't hungry, but Corey knows Sean is mad at
him for lying to his parents about the fire. He
thought it would be worse if he told the true
Sean is the moral. Yes, the monters here, which is
really interesting.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I loved these gray pants. Oh really, this is maybe
the first time I wear them. I think they lasted
all the way through seventh season.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Really, I think you wear for the rest of the show. Yes,
these gray pants I saw.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
It was like, yes, I remember that because they're like
my first really baggy pants.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Like it shows also how good you are controlling your weight,
because there's no way in hell any pants in season
three ended up fitting me in season six or.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Seven that that wasn't happening. So yeah, it's good for you. Man.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Was this with also the green shirt vest combo? Because
you have a solid shirt vest.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Combo in this episode as well.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Sure, yeah, but it's a green like a green shirt
button down with that great vest that like the brown
vest that looks cool.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I do have to say I love the storyline idea
of a kid who because I think as a kid
or you've you we've either all felt the situation at
some point in your life where you are presented with
multiple opportunities to stop something before it gets out of hand,
and somehow it not only do not stop it, but

(33:11):
you actually make it worse in your life. Gosh, where
the lot? It's like, I can I don't even know
what situation I've been in in my life where I'm
like I I can relate to that. But I love
that storyline, especially for kids. I mean it's a great
storyline children. Yes, how that can really spin out that
you think something like I'm just going to say this
one thing right now, this white lie to get myself

(33:33):
out of the situation, and then it like keeps coming
back up and you realize there is no such thing.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Doesn't it seem like Sean would be the one saying,
let's take advantage of this, let's have fun, right, Like
he's the guy who would always is like, let's just
ride it and know who cares what the future of
the consequences. Let's just get on the news and get girls.
And like, why is Sean suddenly conscious about this? Like

(33:58):
it would have been great, been very easy to insert
a reason, like Corey said one thing that that that
bugs Sean because it relates to his life in some way,
or like you, I don't know. It's like every other
episode where Corey and Seawan do highjinks or lie or
get into a situation, Sean is the instigator, and he's
the one that's always saying, don't worry about it, just

(34:19):
have fun.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, he's like, you know what's different. It was a
part of me that wondered if there was an underlying
jealousy from Sean because Sean was also there and there
was a little bit of like a I was there too,
you know, can I get never a one is kind
of what I thought, that you're actually trying to get
him to come clean because you're not sure why. You're

(34:41):
also not benefiting from the scenario. You get a locker.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Genie I'm the one who brought the crowbar like something
like that.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
That would yeah, I feel like, yeah something.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
There's no motivation for Sean to be calling Corey out.
It's like and like we've established and we will continue
to establish throughout the show. Sean doesn't think about the future.
He's totally just gets caught up in whatever's happening. So
it's very bizarre that I'm the voice of you know,
reason here.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
So, Danielle, you were talking about a lie that gets
out of hand.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I've got one.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Tell me grade yes, fifth grade, mister Brooker's class, what
did you do? Bon Jovi is coming to Hartford to
play a concert. I tell everyone I'm going. I'm not,
but I tell everyone I'm going. Oh no the concert.
Days after what was the concert? Like, you didn't go?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yes? I did? You did not go?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
And it got into such a fight that I said,
not only did I go, they brought me backstage and
gave me a guitar signed by the whole band.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Oh no, oh no, bring it in tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I forgot to bring it because, of course, if you
have a guitar signed by all of bon Jovi, you
forget to bring it. Right when the whole school.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Is accusing you of being a liar. You don't forget that.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
You don't forget that. A girl named Carrie, I won't
say her last name, Sears was hi carry Hy. Carrie
was saying to me, you didn't go, and she was
like the cool girl. She had the patches of like
Motley Crue and stuff like that on her jean jacket. Rightfully,
so because she's not a liar exactly, Well, I wasn't either,
as far as I remember in my head, I went

(36:15):
to the concert and got the guitar.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
No.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
So it was weeks of this bring it in until
finally I had to say I never actually went to
the So I had the opportunity of okay, I didn't
go to the Bond Jovie concert, but it turned aroundly
did I go brought backstage and given a guitar signed Michael.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Oh, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I'm such a bad liar. I've never been able to
lie in my life. Rat I'm just an open book.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I just cannot.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I'm so uncomfortable like with just even the thought of lying,
like the the mental anguish, like I just can't do it.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
So now the reason I don't lie, and I go
out of my way not to lie is because I'm
so good at right tales and I remember the d
tales months later that I added And that's why. I mean.
My wife and I've talked about this. I'm like, I'm
never gonna lie to you, like and she's like, you'd be.
You're really good at it, aren't.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm like, that's why I don't do it.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
If I say something it's the truth, because it's I
don't want to get it's weird.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
It's weird. Yeah, I was never on Boy Meets World. Really,
that's a lot. I was never on Boy Meets World.
So yeah, bon Jovi, he ow's me a guitar. That's
what this is all about. Corey says he's giving the
people what they want. He doesn't want to disappoint anyone.
He pulls out his schedule for the day to read
to Sean. He has a photo shoot with the homecoming Queen,
shoot sushi with Doctor Currell, and then he has to

(37:34):
fight traffic to greet the new exchange students at the airport.
Sean says he can just tell everyone no, but Corey
doesn't want to go back to being the same old
Corey Matthews. Sean asks what was wrong with him, and
Corey says people still call him Eric's brother, Sean's friend,
or hey kid.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Move great, same story, look but same story looks, same
story and also just a ridiculous considering how much how
much everybody at the center of attention. Yeah, I love it,
I love it.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
So Corey lied to his parents and slide to the
school and says it can't get worse than that. Then
mister Williams and mister Turner comes up to Corey to
tell him they got him an appearance on Philadelphia tonight
because Eli called a few of his buddies and now
they want the entire Matthew's family on TV. Corey uses
his locker Genie to bang his head against the locker,
and Turner tells Williams Corey can save someone from a

(38:20):
burning building, but he's afraid of a camera. Corey tells
Sean he's reached his limit. He can't go through with this.
Then Phoenie comes up behind him and asks can't go
through with what? Sean explains to Feenie Corey is going
to be on TV to explain the fire, and Phoene
says he's also been waiting for Corey to tell the
whole story. Cory says, Phoenie knows everything, and Phoene says,
perhaps you're right. Phoene walks off, and Corey asks Sean

(38:41):
what that meant, and Sean says, it's just Feenie being Phoenie.
Three years in and I still don't understand a word
this guy says, but hasn't he been teaching them forever too?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
But also, but Sean knows, Like Sean has been calling
Corey out for line a little bit, so why wouldn't
he be like on Phoenie's side, And so I'm saying, like, yeah,
Phoene's onto us, dude, like you should tell the truth
or I don't know any reaction that makes sense as
opposed to this, like reverting to dumb. Let's just keep
going along with it, Sean right when the scene started

(39:13):
with me. Anyway, all that aside, My favorite delivery of
all time is Alex stays, there's famous people.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Get all weird. They're all they're all weird.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
His Oh my god, he's just so great.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
He's so natural.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yes, he's so calm and like understated and just hysterical.
I love that line. Yeah, very but yeah, no, this
it's a weird, weird episode for me.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, I mean too, These last two have been odd
for me. Then we're in the Matthews living room. Corey
is on the phone with doctor Sharon, a radio personality.
He says, his name is Gomez and he's calling to
talk to somebody about his situation. He wants to come clean,
but he's afraid the truth will make things worse. He
asks where he can find a little courage. Doctor Sharon
tells him to look deep inside himself, but Corey is
disappointed with her answer. After being on hold for forty

(40:01):
five minutes, she tells him, you know what you could
turn into Philadelphia tonight to watch an inspirational story about
a brave boy named Corey Matthews. And I did like
how this all. I liked that moment that somebody's like,
you know what you should do? Look at this boy.
Corey hangs up the phone on doctor Sharon by throwing
the phone on the couch and not touching a single button.
Doctor Sharon is still on the phone. It's been thirty years,
It's never never.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Been hung up on Ben's phone. Acting, man, We've talked
about it.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Acting does not have good phone acting, and that's rare
because he's got all the other duels. It's been acting.
I was gonna say it because we have to separate
it from facting, which is his acting. So this is
an acting.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
This is an acting, is not or maybe tele acting
tele acting acting tell.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Acting is good. Yeah, Cory and Eric's bedroom. Corey is
looking out the window to see the news crew setting
up there, lights, cameras, cables and ooh. Sean wants to
know what the ooh was about, and it's bagels. He
does a cute little hand thing for the bagels.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Always does he always made shapes, remember Ben what always like?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Because that's it? Hey, guys, He says he's glad Sean
is there with him. Sean says he's partly to blame
because he told Corey to ride this out, but he
says he won't go on TV and lie with Corey.
What kind of an idiot would do that. Eric comes
out of the bathroom dressed in a suit and says,
half hour and tell our debut boys. Eric says, once
the audience sees him, no one will care for rich

(41:16):
Herrera the weather guy, and he's going to take his
job and this is a nice little callback to Eric's
dream job of being a weatherman. Set it up. I'm
also wearing the hell out of that suit. The mullet right, correct,
it's not really a mullet.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
No, this is just glorious.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
But here's the thing, because this part is so long
and the way they like blew it out, this long
part that dangles down here gives a mullet vibe because
it's like it goes in at the ears but then
poofs out down here like this is this is so good.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Peak Wilfredell will teat this. You know, I feel like
this is where you stay for the rest of the
show as far as like your vibe. It's hysterical because
I mean, we do a whole episode where you do
become a weather man, right yeah, So I feel like
we're establishing this whimsy about you that's great where it's
like it's not like the essay t stuff, which was

(42:13):
still kind of would you know, try and have a
real message.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
It's like, no, just cant great bits.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Let will go do voices and weather reports and look
good in a suit.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
It's honest, it was so Corey asks Eric, well, what
if this TV thing doesn't happen tonight because he's not
really a hero. He's the one who started the fire
and the whole thing snowballed. Eric's immediate reaction is to
think Corey is protecting rich Herrera is great. And then

(42:45):
we're in the Matthews living room the news crew.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
What was Sean saying, Sean, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I'm not gonna go on TV. I know, well, it
would be great if Sean says I'm going to help
you get out of this man, because I'm partly responsible
for this whole scenario. So I don't want to how much.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, or enjoy the popularity why you can have fun?
Like there's there's so many different ways that would have
made more sense. And instead of say Sean's a non presence,
he's just he's the one person who and that he's
not actually giving advice. Tell Feenie the truth, Live to Feenie,
Like it's they just want to keep me in this
like undecided category the entire time, and it's.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Like, give just a shame because the actual good story
here is take you out of it except for breaking
at the beginning, and make it to Panga is his conscience.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Yes, that I mean, you know, it's a whole Seene
coming in your you know, like just having me being
the person in every scene bouncing ideas off of him,
but having when.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Sean keeps trying to help him out by opening the doorway. Yes, Phoenie,
I'm actually trying to tell Cory and Corey shuts him up.
And in this case, if you're like, dude, I'm not
going on TV in line, we have to go down
there right now and tell your parents the truth. I'll
help you, and and Corey keeps stopping you. I have
no point of them.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Rely, Sean has no point of view. It's like I'm
there and scenes to bounce off dialogue with Corey, but
I'm not actually serving any purpose or any point of
view in this episode, which makes no sense. Sean's a troublemaker,
Sean is, you know, And that's what it should have been,
that it was always Sean's paper, and that Corey just
went along to help Sean. Then Sean would be beholden

(44:27):
to go along with the lie against his better judgment,
and then that you know, and then it would have
been a point of view.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Or they make you even more absurd, and you're getting
extra meals at lunch because you were Corey's friend, and
you're you're riding the coach down like you know, I'm
dating the cheerleader.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Now, if the roles were reversed, right, it actually makes
more sense. Sean's the one who blows up the lab
lies and Corey's obviously the moral compass. So the fact
that they reversed our roles for the sake of the episode,
they were uncomfortable with completely going there, but then don't
go there. Then just have Sean be the one like Corey,

(45:02):
Let's get on the news, Corey, let's go light to Feenie.
Sean should be taking advantage of it. I don't just
any point of view. It's strange.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Corey tells Sean this is the lowest point in his
life and he's going straight to hell. And the worst
part is they'll expect him to put out the fire.
The fast talking news anchor Connie is prepping Amy and
Allen for the newscast. She encourages them to cry on
camera if they can, and then they'll load up the
van and they'll be drinking by nine.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
Turner and Eli so good, Oh my God, is like
the excited to be on TV choice he chooses to do.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
It in this moment, he doesn't even have any lines.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
When she's like running them through the bit and the bets,
you're like, oh oh oh.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
But then he's also like really happy to be there.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
It's so it's so cute. Uh.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
And then we see that Turner and Eli are also
there watching in the corner.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Can we also this is where the absence of Morgan
is so palpable, like everybody's here, the whole fan.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Accept the littles again, except by the way, the little sister,
who would have totally shined in this moment of like
trying to take over her career character to have inserted
in here.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
This is probably when they started going, yeah, we need
we need to we need to figure this out.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Eric comes down to introduce himself to Connie and he
tries to give her a weather report. Connie starts her
news report without Alan, Amy and Eric, while Corey tries
to switch spots with the sound guy and Sean is
stealing food from the craft service table. There is so
much going on in this in this scene, just so
much going on.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Did you guys find it kind of jarring to see
film equipment on our set. Yes, that was weird, like
seeing a boom standing a boom. Mic I was like,
that's a mistake, that's you can't show that.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
It is so weird. It must have been.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah, I mean, I guess no one in outside of
the film industry would have recognized those things.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
But that's like what it looked.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Like to us all the time, Like right, that's all
you Yes, like we always have those that equipment and
like c stands and yeah, it's so weird to have
it and people with headsets like it's just.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, guys with the booms the booms. Alan starts talking
about Corey. Then Eric jumps in to talk about Corey,
but brings up the weather and Alan sends Eric up
to his room. I thought may is funny. It was
very mad protrude. Alan and Amy say Corey hasn't changed
since being a hero, and he didn't do this to
be a hero. It just had to be done. Corey

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doing the right thing is what makes him special. They
proudly look over at Corey and he disappointedly walks into
the kitchen. Connie tosses the next segment to Rich Herrera
and Eric yells no from upstairs. There was a whole
lot going on in there. Then we're in the Matthew
Rusty just the way he likes, so funny looking at

(47:49):
the different cameras and kind of stumbling over his words
and very funny. So then we're the Matthew slash Fienie Backyard.
Phoene is yelling at the camera crew who have some
of their cable on his aliols and their generator next
to his my bramble bush.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Now do we find it weird that we never see
a camera? The cameras are the actual cameras. It's like,
if you're going to break this wall without break, like
you just just have somebody setting up a camera in
front of our cameras and then everybody but instead they're

(48:27):
looking at art.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
It just drives me crazy. Yes, yes, yes that is weird.
We do.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
But we've done it so many times where we've had
a camera in the set.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
We've always you know, and when.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
You were doing news shows like this, they didn't have
sophisticated that. They basically just use video cameras, right, so
you could have easily just had a handle.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Why not.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
It's not like we had a lack of cameras around
like or couldn't afford it.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I think for the reason, then chose cameras set up
in front of our cameras, So.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It's like, yeah, that's what makes sense that it's kind
of blocking. He could have also just been on a tripod.
You wouldn't even need a person manning the camera. You
could have just put it on a track.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Or just like the boom person, you just see it
asn't cut away. Yeah, and you never have to show
it again. You just show people with a camera over there, right,
but then they're looking into our cameras right.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
When they're right. Yeah, yeah, I think so I hate
that kind of stuff. Addressed me cra So Corey walks
out and Phoene says the eyes of Philadelphia on him tonight.
But Corey doesn't feel good because he's not comfortable going
on TV and being a hero. Phoene says, a hero
is when someone does the right thing, even when the
right thing isn't easy to do, and that's when Corey
realizes Fhoenie has known the truth all along, but Phoene

(49:38):
says he doesn't have enough facts. Alan Amy come outside
to grab Corey, but he finally admits to them he's
the one who started the fire. He says it was
an accident, but he was thinking he wanted to be
someone he wasn't and he knows that was a mistake.
He kept hoping it would go away so he wouldn't
get in trouble. Amy says it didn't and he is.
And Alan says Corey has to go inside and tell
Connie he isn't going on live TV. And he says

(50:00):
Connie will freak, and Alan says, well she can get
in line. So now we know Corey's going to be
in big time trouble. Before Corey walks in, Phoene says,
well done. And when Corey says, so you did know,
Phoene corrects him and says he didn't know the truth,
but he did know the character heroic. Then he says
he'll see Corey at school tomorrow on a Saturday to

(50:21):
paint the chemistry lab N's night.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
It's nice to have Feenie over the fence giving real
advice to Corey in a moment of crisis.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yes, I just wish this just like a.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Little rewrite some yeah, you know, a couple more days
rewriting this, and because this scene is great, like the
mistakes of like the news cruise in the other room
and Correy has to like retreat to have a crisis.
But it didn't right, didn't quite feel like a crisis,
Like it didn't like I wasn't sure what Corey was
giving up that was so important, like it it would
have been really nice if he was you know, we've

(50:54):
seen him on stage like being loved by the jocks,
but like Tapang's not really into Corey being popular. Sean's
not into Corey and popular, Like what is Corey getting
That like really affects him in like a way, like
it would have.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Just been nice to see, well, I would relationship the
po the point that would have bummed him out, that
would have been crossing the line for him is I'm
making a fool of my family, right, This isn't just
affecting me anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
My parents, who are well meaning, established people have to
are out there unknown, like basically looking like a fool.
Have you ever been in a situation with a friend
or a romantic partner where other people all know a
story and you're the only one who doesn't, and and
you're suddenly like, wait a minute, how come I'm like
all these other people know this thing about you and

(51:41):
I'm supposed to be an important person in your life
and I'm the only one who didn't know that story
like that, there's a there's a part that you feels
like you kind of made a fool of me, Like
I went out there and so that I would have
it would have really, And I think that is what
they wanted, is that Corey saw his parents on TV
talking about what a special, amazing, good hearted, would always
do the right thing kind of kid, and he was like, man,

(52:03):
and he knows he's not. But it didn't quite land
as he I wish that, coming.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Right off of an episode where the whole thing was
him going, of course, I'm gonna do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I always do the right thing.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I was raised well, and it's like we just and
your reason is because you want people to know who
you are.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
That's your reason every week and they always know who
you are.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
So I guess I guess that is the thing is
that it's still sort of abstract, like I want to
be popular, I want to be known at school for something.
It would have been nice to make that concrete in
somewhere like he is, actually I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Like this like just being on TV.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I can't believe I'm going to make this analogy, but
it's summertime switch. It's like you want, almost want him
to do what Fast Freddy did, where he turns around
and bags on the rich people and that's what makes
the girl like him. So it's like you almost want
he's doing it to impress to Panga. But what actually
impresses to Panga is when he finally comes clean on

(52:59):
such truth like something like.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
That, Yeah, and is actually a little icked out by
how much he's enjoying the perks of being a hero
until he comes clean. Yeah, I can see that, all right.
So we're in the school hallway. Janitor Budd is taking

(53:23):
away Corey's locker Genie. He says Corey saved his life,
but Phoene signs his checks. Then he asks for the
clicker back from Corey and missus fraud aka to Panga,
this is fraud. She's completely pointless and not needed in
the show, but she does wear amazing cowboy boots, so
thank you, Sarah mark Witz.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
And may never even get into the fact that he's
This is the thing about the He's obviously lying to
her the whole time too.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I mean he's lying. He his girlfriend never mentioned that.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
She doesn't seem to care. None of that seems to happen.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
They don't talk about it at all. It's not needed.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Could have gone the could have gone the other way too,
where like Tapanga's getting perks for being like really she's
super stoked on being like Corey's are candy is he
He's like being fair and then that would put pressure
on him to like, yeah, there's a million ways to
have done Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I mean, it makes no sense that in three oh
four they were like, we do not need this character
in here, but we have to have or in three
oh five if I'm just not needed, like I guess
it must have been that they were trying to make
their minimum of what they were guaranteed to pay me
or something, and so they might as well just throw
me in. But it really is, I'm completely pointless in

(54:27):
this episode another No, POV doesn't need to be there,
super weird. They could have easily done all of this
just without Ta Panga needing to be there, super weird.
Corey says he's happy just being plain old Corey. He
puts his arm around Sean and Tapega says he's got
his best friend and his girlfriend, and then he walks
into Tommy, who says, hey kid, move, Hey, he's got
his old name back too nice callback, Yeah, I like you.

(54:50):
Doctor Serell tells Tommy he can miss tomorrow's lab, but
when Corey walks up to him to give him a
note from his mom for a doctor's appointment, he says,
tell it to someone who cares, and Corey says, it's
good to be me. And that's our show.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
A couple not great ones in a row.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
I've got a great flower print shirt in this final tag, though.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Do you there?

Speaker 3 (55:12):
You go?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
I love how much your wardrobe?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
I was gonna say, when Rider really leans into the wardrobe,
you know he's he's not already checked out on the
app on the episode.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Ye obsessing over the c stands and cables. Yeah, and
then where's that camera? Yeah? I don't know, man, it's
it's not I'm not. I didn't love these last two
episodes either with them, but they're not they're not great.
Should we discuss the mini fear we have will while
you were gone? We we have a little bit of

(55:42):
a minifaar. Should we discuss it? Just really brief? I
feel like we got.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
I've been told and there were comments when we entered
season three that season three was the best season and.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
That when season three comes around, you guys are really
you hit your stride, it becomes really great. You guys
are gonna love season three. Just wait till you get
to season three.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
And so far I'm not feeling it. But yeah, to
be fair, I felt this. We all felt this way, yes,
the episodes into season two, so you're right, maybe this
is just the way it goes. But it is not
like I loved the double lie the episode two. Yeah,
I did not like the first episode.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
No, it was weird. That was the whole issue.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Okay that I love, doesn't say it back.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
It was a little weird. Yeah it wasn't. It wasn't terrible.
But but four and five have not. I don't know
if it feels off. I think we're all better.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
We're all comfortable as getting more comfortable as actors and
are finding our characters. So for us on a personal level,
I think it's better.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
But some of the.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Episodes are not. Again I'm I don't want to I
don't want to watch a whole lot more of Corey
is doing something crazy because he wants people to know
who he is episodes and Sean is running away like
I'm kind.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Of I'm kind of done with that.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I think let's say, let's get it, my guy, Let's
get into the topanga stuff.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
I know is going to become Corey Topanga, Corey Bang,
and then we're gonna get sick of that. But I
think that's what I mean, that becomes Corey's main storyline.
Sean's storyline is like always looking for parents, always looking
for a home.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
So that's gonna I'm gonna keep running away and being
very dramatic, well until until Angela, until Trina arrives. Then
you have a very romantic, a romantic storyline. Yeah, I know.
I was also just like, oh, season three is when
the real Corey into beanga story and then we started
off with such a like I'm in I'm gonna be
with her, and then it's just been like, who is

(57:37):
that person? You have not needed that person. I don't
know who that person is. So yeah, very strange, very strange. Well,
thank you all for joining us for this episode of
Pod Meets World. Our next episode that we will recap
is season three, episode six. This Little Piggy. Oh, no,
the pig the pig one.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Okay, one of the pig ones. We have multiple like
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